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Lillian Gish: She-Wolf of the KKK?

College removes her name from their theater due to complaints of racism.

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by Anonymousreply 71July 31, 2020 11:55 PM

FFS.....SJW will indeed be our downfall...if Trump doesnt do it first.

by Anonymousreply 1May 14, 2019 4:53 PM

Everything that existed before 2015 is problematic and should be canceled.

by Anonymousreply 2May 14, 2019 4:57 PM

That pathetic bust looks nothing like either Gish sister.

by Anonymousreply 3May 14, 2019 5:00 PM

You can major in pop culture at BGSU.

by Anonymousreply 4May 14, 2019 5:01 PM

CRAZY

by Anonymousreply 5May 14, 2019 5:05 PM

I turned 21 at BGSU.

by Anonymousreply 6May 14, 2019 5:06 PM

This bothers me. The college raised money from Gish friends and fans for this. If I had given I would be pissed as fuck.

by Anonymousreply 7May 14, 2019 5:15 PM

My grandmother that lived in Oberlin, Ohio somehow knew her in her younger years. My brother , who attended Oberlin, relayed that to me, but I don't know the context of their relationship.

by Anonymousreply 8May 14, 2019 5:21 PM

Why are we holding someone born in 1893 to 2019 standards of wokeness?

by Anonymousreply 9May 14, 2019 5:25 PM

I have a copy of her autobiography but I haven't looked at in many years (The Movies, Mr Griffith and Me). I'm pretty sure she addressed the racism in Birth of a Nation, but I'm also pretty sure she defended Griffith too. I'll have to see if I can find what she said.

by Anonymousreply 10May 14, 2019 5:32 PM

I wrote her a letter in the '70s and she responded with a lovely signed photo.

by Anonymousreply 11May 14, 2019 5:38 PM
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by Anonymousreply 12May 14, 2019 5:49 PM

[quote]The college raised money from Gish friends and fans for this. If I had given I would be pissed as fuck.

That was over 40 years ago so I doubt many are even alive anymore.

This is about the fourth thread we've had on this, correct?

by Anonymousreply 13May 14, 2019 5:50 PM
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by Anonymousreply 14May 14, 2019 5:54 PM

This is the thing I've never understood, if you think a person was racist why do you want to remove their name? As racists they would, themselves, want their name to be removed from a buildings than to have them used by many races, while bearing their name, so you are not attacking their racism but reinforcing it. If Lillian Gish was racist, it would be more appropriate to create a regular series of African American films to be shown in the theater, as a fuck you. Just like if other colleges has an academic building named for a racist, instead of removing the name, it should be the location of the African American Studies department. To show that their racist views and ideology did not prevail.

by Anonymousreply 15May 14, 2019 5:58 PM

It's a good thing the black students union is working hard on this and not focusing on the fact that police have regularly shot children in Ohio. This is so much more meaningful.

by Anonymousreply 16May 14, 2019 6:34 PM

There is nothing eternal or iconic about this cunt to suggest she deserves that dreadful bust to stand forever.

by Anonymousreply 17May 14, 2019 6:56 PM

Doing life without parole, R6?

by Anonymousreply 18May 14, 2019 8:51 PM

R16 well the NUMBER ONE concern should be black on black homicides

by Anonymousreply 19May 14, 2019 9:26 PM

There is more than one dorm at UT named after a KKK wizard. It bothered me when I was there in the 90s and it bothers me now. This stuff has been a long time coming and it's a change for the better.

by Anonymousreply 20May 14, 2019 9:29 PM

La Dame aux Camellias....

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by Anonymousreply 21May 14, 2019 9:29 PM

Simple ; Every building from now on has to be named for a saint.

by Anonymousreply 22May 14, 2019 9:34 PM

"Why, we had no IDEA Lillian Gish was in such a film. We're shocked, SHOCKED to find this out 100 years later. Off with her bust, immediately!!"

by Anonymousreply 23May 14, 2019 9:38 PM

MOST college kids don't even know who Lillian Gish is

by Anonymousreply 24May 14, 2019 9:40 PM

This sounds like a college whose curriculum is based on a game of tenpins.

by Anonymousreply 25May 14, 2019 9:46 PM

R4 are you referring to Bowling Green State University?

by Anonymousreply 26May 14, 2019 9:51 PM

Yes r26

by Anonymousreply 27May 14, 2019 9:55 PM

She sucked as my co-star.

by Anonymousreply 28May 14, 2019 9:59 PM

The only time I ever saw Miss Gish in public she was with another actress and, of course, doing all the talking.

by Anonymousreply 29May 14, 2019 10:12 PM

R22 Two Protestant churches in my area have changed their names. They have removed the saint's names because they were "insufficiently inclusive".

by Anonymousreply 30May 14, 2019 10:15 PM

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by Anonymousreply 31May 14, 2019 10:18 PM

Didn't Lillian and her sister Dorothy used to lez it up back in the day?

by Anonymousreply 32May 14, 2019 10:22 PM

I'm no particular fan of this movie star BUT she obviously remained alert and vital much longer than most of her co-stars.

I wish she could have written a thorough account of her long career. She may have done so, I don't know.

by Anonymousreply 33May 14, 2019 10:22 PM

Lillian Gish was great. Back in the 'seventies, did a tour talking about her movie career. It featured excerpts of silent films in which she had appeared. I was just a kid, but already obsessed with old movies, and my father took me to see her when she can to our town. She was very sharp and charming.

She'd been madly in love with D.W. Griffith (director of the notorious Birth of a Nation), and I expect that she never said a critical word about him or the film. Griffith dumped her for another, untalented actress. His longtime cameraman complained bitterly, and repeatedly told him he should have stayed with Lillian.

by Anonymousreply 34May 14, 2019 10:42 PM

I hear the SJW outrage over bullshit like this and I can actually see where Trump supporters are coming from. These social "activists" should be taken to the nearest town square and publicly buttfucked to within an inch of their worthless lives.

by Anonymousreply 35May 14, 2019 11:01 PM

PC gone mad. Haven't these people got better more constructive things to do. Will the University be returning the money Gish left them?

by Anonymousreply 36May 14, 2019 11:06 PM

R35 sounds even more enraged than the ‘SJW’ types over something that has even less meaning to her life than it does theirs....hmm

Of course R35 isn’t an actual Dump drone, but she can see where they are coming from on this vital issue.

No chance R35 chose the punishment of a ‘public buttfucking in the town square’ because she’s a rabid homophobe...

by Anonymousreply 37May 14, 2019 11:14 PM

Miss Prisspot at R37 had to cut her whining short because she had to run out and buy tampons to stop the seepage from her gaping anus. Tonight she's going to a demonstration at the public library to get the book [italic]Black Beauty[/italic] banned for racist content.

by Anonymousreply 38May 14, 2019 11:19 PM

In R37's world, if you disapprove of the inane antics of the SJWs, you're an automatic Trumpster. This is why the Democratic party is turning to shit.

by Anonymousreply 39May 14, 2019 11:26 PM

Oh, Yevgeny

by Anonymousreply 40May 14, 2019 11:27 PM

Bette Davis got the last laugh.

by Anonymousreply 41May 14, 2019 11:39 PM

Where does this end???? With tearing down of the Washington Monument and the Jefferson Memorial? After all, they owned slaves... Changing the name of our nation's capital to the District? Dynamite half of Mount Rushmore? Holding someone accountable to the standards of today for something that happened 100 years ago is absurd.

by Anonymousreply 42May 14, 2019 11:46 PM

It’s not about holding her accountable. She’s dead...

It’s about institutional control over what reflects their values. Nobody guaranteed Miss Gish the right to eternal admiration.

It’s really nobody’s business outside of the school community.

For all the screeching about ‘SJW’ there sure does seem to be a need for the alt-right to stick noses where they do not belong and are not welcome to insure justice for dead creeps.

by Anonymousreply 43May 14, 2019 11:52 PM

You were warned that the denouncements would expand and that eventually no one would be safe. That's the way it has always been. Decide at what point you think would be the right time to speak up.

by Anonymousreply 44May 14, 2019 11:56 PM

Such concern!

by Anonymousreply 45May 14, 2019 11:57 PM

I also attended one of those evenings in the '70s, r34. She was pretty wonderful.

by Anonymousreply 46May 14, 2019 11:59 PM

Miss Gish used to have sex with Mr Griffith at this house.

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by Anonymousreply 47May 15, 2019 12:41 AM

She was a great artist.

Some of the remarks above make me ashamed of DL.

by Anonymousreply 48May 15, 2019 12:49 AM

Didn't Tennessee write Blanche for her?

by Anonymousreply 49May 15, 2019 1:06 AM

BGSU doesn’t deserve her. Her name should be on a Broadway theater.

by Anonymousreply 50May 15, 2019 2:29 AM

Given no one is perfect then maybe nothing should be named after anyone and no statues or monuments should be erected of anyone - all existing ones should be removed.

And while we are at it why not remove Facebook sites for individuals as they fall under that category.

Honestly its just nonsense.

by Anonymousreply 51May 15, 2019 5:01 AM

[quote]Why are we holding someone born in 1893 to 2019 standards of wokeness?

Because that's how woke assholes operate, and, for now, they're allowed to screech louder than everyone else.

by Anonymousreply 52May 15, 2019 5:10 AM

She was just an actress. Not “just” because after all, as Bette Davis said, she was there when they invited the close up.

But she didn’t fucking write Birth of a Nation.

by Anonymousreply 53May 15, 2019 6:43 AM

[quote]Why are we holding someone born in 1893 to 2019 standards of wokeness?

Because most people are too coward to speak up about it.

by Anonymousreply 54May 15, 2019 7:43 AM

All this history erasure bullshit needs to stop. What next? How about sending the Antifa loons to threaten Annabeth.

by Anonymousreply 55May 15, 2019 9:10 AM

"Where does this end????"

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by Anonymousreply 56May 15, 2019 2:55 PM

When will the SJWs demand the bannination of the Democratic Party for being the party of the Confedracy, slavery, segregation and the Ku Klux Klan?

by Anonymousreply 57May 15, 2019 3:31 PM

Lillian Gish showed up on Broadway for a tribute to Mary Martin in 1985. At the time, I thought Lillian was a lesbian. I do not remember her comments,, but I was impressed.

by Anonymousreply 58May 15, 2019 3:39 PM

[quote]Where does this end???? With tearing down of the Washington Monument and the Jefferson Memorial? After all, they owned slaves... Changing the name of our nation's capital to the District? Dynamite half of Mount Rushmore?

Jesus Christ, calm the fuck down.

A private institution decided after over 40 years that they no longer wanted to use the name of a woman who starred in and defended racist propaganda in the early 1900s.

No, they're not going to blow up Mount Rushmore because of this, you screaming baby.

by Anonymousreply 59May 15, 2019 4:34 PM

And a Broadway musical on her resume, of course......

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by Anonymousreply 60May 15, 2019 6:27 PM

I saw some interview in the mid to late 80s where she was questioned about the racism in the movie and she said it wasn't racist and DW Griffith wasn't racist and was a "southern gentleman". She tried to deflect from answering the questions head on. During that time period she was very highly thought of for her contributions and old and appeared to be from a different time period. Because the movie is racist as fuck. And there was so much negative press about it at the time (blacks in the north rioted) DW filmed Intolerance to "make up" for making the KKK heroes in TBOAN.

by Anonymousreply 61May 15, 2019 8:06 PM

This reminds me of the Holocaust poem...first they came for the socialists. That’s exactly where this insanity is leading us as a woke society god help us.

by Anonymousreply 62May 15, 2019 8:57 PM
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by Anonymousreply 63May 15, 2019 9:15 PM

I was thinking along the same lines during the recent banishment of Kate Smith for similar offenses. Everyone is ginning up so much anger and hatred, and perspective is far more interesting and educational. Kate Smith was insufferable growing up, but then I learned the bitch sold $600 million worth of anti-fascist war bonds during WWII and I had to give the chick her props. Maybe it is time to retire Kate Smith and Lillian Gish, but why do the young people have to do it with such vitriol? And what do they have in mind to replace them with? Believe it or not a snotty attitude will not diminish the achievements they're seeking to toss into the rubbish with dishonor. It's a disgraceful display of (another problematic D.W. Griffith contribution) Intolerance.

by Anonymousreply 64May 15, 2019 9:43 PM

Has anyone actually watched ' Birth of a Nation'?

I've only seen extracts of it but I have to turn it off because—

The photography is murky.

The actors have jerky, spastic movements.

The actors have to mime which brings communication down to a moronic level.

by Anonymousreply 65May 15, 2019 10:29 PM

R65, it's very hard to sit through. Because of the subject matter and some of the hokey acting, it seems even older than it actually is. There are also a lot of horrible prints of it circulating. Orphans of the Storm, which is a DW Griffith/Lillian Gish movie about the French Revolution, is much better. It's dreary at the start, but it works up to a chase-and-rescue sequence that is wonderfully edited even by modern standards.

by Anonymousreply 66May 15, 2019 10:50 PM

I surprised that Ethel Merman was so nice to Lillian in the video above, e be even called her Miss Gish.

by Anonymousreply 67May 15, 2019 11:13 PM

I tried to sit through it and remember there being one hot guy in it but I think he gets killed.

So after that I lost interest.

by Anonymousreply 68May 15, 2019 11:19 PM

I agree, Bertha. Silent films are unwatchable unless there's a beautiful man or an added music score.

by Anonymousreply 69May 15, 2019 11:53 PM
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by Anonymousreply 70May 16, 2019 12:09 AM

I watched The Wind a week ago and just finished watching The Scarlet Letter. She's great in them!

by Anonymousreply 71July 31, 2020 11:55 PM
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