North American Man/Boy Love Association

It's around because there are plenty of pedos out there.

Why did you need to start a thread about this? Don't think Muriel will be a fan, N@MBLA used to be a banned word for years here, don't know if it is still is.

We have regular meetings.

When I was first coming out of the closet in the early 80s, they were allowed to advertise in the gay papers. There was a lot of outrage about it.

Is it for men who look like boys or boys who look like men? Oh bless their hearts, there's something for everyone out there nowadays.

Sounds disgusting

It it from Greece?

Please FF OP who is trying to conflate homosexuality with pedophilia by posting on this board.

I always assumed N@mbla was something invented by ultra right wing government agents to damage the gay rights movement. Roy Cohn projection perhaps?

It's all police spying on each other.

The UK variant appears to have been disbanded. Why is NAMBLA still with us?

10,000+ rabid pedo apologists in 3.. 2.. 1..

We fail to see any difficultia.

In the USSR it was called USSRBLA

[bold]TIMMY!

I think it’s fine if the older men simply APPRECIATE the boys (15 and above) and don’t touch them.

My experience with "men who have sex with men" is most prefer a masculine, hairy, muscly aggressive-type man. The polar opposite of 'boys'.

But every single incident of male pedophilia gets front page news.

Yes...no touching r15, but in your mind you can do anything to them, including putting them into a pit in your basement. You

^ that French model has the most beautiful skin

R10 NAMBLA exist because self-proclaimed "chicken hawks" exist, and probably in more disturbed numbers than we realise. Pop over to the thread about the youth minister preying on, rather than praying with the 16 and 17 year-old lads... If I knew how to link, I'd oblige. It's "Anti-Gay minister accused..." Read that, and you shall understand.

^ disturbing numbers. (damned auto-correct)

R19 there's a big difference between a 24 year old dating a 16 or 17 year old than a 50 year old and someone 15 or younger. In my state the age of consent is actually 16, and we also have a "Romeo and Juliet" law on the books, separately.

IIRC, NAM wants ages 15 and under to be legal.

R21 In your mind perhaps, not mine. False equivalency like "dating" "Old enough to know what he wants", etc. do not apply to that situation. Nor any situation really with a mentor entrusted with teens, and unrequited feelings on behalf of the adult. When advocates bring these in, they betray themselves.

R22, having sex with a 12 year old (ugh) is absolutely different than having sex with over 16 year olds. I'm not into twinks or teens but you'd have to be blind to not see how popular barely legal twinks are in porn. That actually goes with the straight porn as well, where "teen" seems to always be in the search results top 3. I'm in my 40s and couldn't actually even imagine having sex with someone under 30, let alone under 20, but I know that many so-called normal guys are into barely legal guys, and I really don't have a problem with that if it's mutual, not against the law and I don't have to witness any of it. Things get immediately super icky and disgusting if kids under 15 are treated sexually in any way. I've had friends who started having sex actively when they were 13 or 14, but I personally was still a little kid at that point and most definitely wasn't ready for sex until I was 17 or 18. I've also met guys over 20 who were so underdeveloped emotionally that they seemed like they were 15.

R23 Now however did twelve year-olds get brought into the mix of my comments. Trolling? Back on point, there is no appreciable difference between a 15 and 16 year-old. Both adolescents are not adults, more fair to argue they're on par with boys... NOT men. In these situations, regardless of the law of consent in your area, one is an adult, whilst one is still very much a boy, as in the NAMBLA moniker. If someone wants to paint a pretty picture of a double Romeo script, the adult ought to love and respect the adolescent enough to allow him to fully develop and mature, then attempt a physical relationship. If we're completely clear and honest, dating and love have nothing whatsoever to do with molestation cases. Most of these arguments always bring these rationalisations into these situations.

Bottom line: no fully developed healthy adult ought to be having sex with teens.

Gay men are no different than straight men in the fact we are attracted to 16-17 year olds. In my job, I work around all straight men, and you should hear their comments when a high school girl walks or drives by. It’s all about how they “could teach her some things” and how “she’ll be calling me daddy.” I think it’s just instinctual that we like young, healthy, attractive specimens.

R26 No, sorry I'm not buying it. Certainly not all of us, or even the majority. Moreover, It's not instinctual, and it isn't healthy. I can perfectly understand and separate comments and thoughts as in "he's going to be really handsome when he grows up", or "her father will be beating blokes away with sticks", etc. Acknowledging they may be good looking or attractive isn't quite the same thing as NAMBLA, or those who prey upon adolescents, now is it? There is something amiss with comments trying to neatly categorise a given situation, or a law here, or a culture there in order to create a slippery slope. The same can be said for those who keep pointing out that true Pedophilia is different to Ephebophilia, or Hebophilia, and that fancying young teens is somewhat or somehow less objectionable. None of them are normal or healthy. A lot of people are fooling themselves, but not the rest of us. Teens should only be getting it on with themselves or one another. Adults should not be taking part in their sexuality.

R27 you may be a priss about it and not like it, but the law in many states set the age of consent at 16. So clearly there are many, many people who disagree with you, including psychologists and Lesbians.

R28 are you the Finn Troll?

FINN WOLFHARD Trol

FINN WOLFHARD Trol

R29 I'm afraid I have no idea who that is.

R28 To each his own, but yes, I perceive those adults who prefer 16 year-olds to be highly disordered types. Not too mention, something mutual and consensual was not what my original comment was directed at... it was the youth minister story/thread. People such as yourself seem a bit triggered though, and thus you need to expel all your rationalisations to appease your mind. My father happens to be a shrink, and he would declare you stunted, and unhealthy as well. Wherever do chicken hawks bring their "dates"? An arcade or go-kart park? They can't even drink legally, or buy tobacco. I can't imagine you or others bringing them home to meet family, let alone socialising with other adults. You probably just keep them as your dirty little secret. Sounds awfully healthy to me.

R33 - I totally get your point, but I don’t think it’s that we “prefer 16 year olds,” I think it’s just that we APPRECIATE them. Whatever I think in my mind I would never act out on it. I have a partner that’s 7 years younger, but he’s of legal age.

R28 No R rated films either for you and the chickens, in case you were about to suggest dinner and a flick. You sound like yet another aspiring Epstein.

R34 Was your partner 16 when you met him? If this isn't your bag, why do you defend it so?

Trump was a member in the late 90s

Not buying that one either R37, as his 13 year-old accuser was a female. Clearly if anything, he likes teenage pussy.

Ivanka has a pussy 🤔

We all know Eric has a pussy

R40 No, that's Donnie Jr. with the pussy. Eric is a cunt, but he does have a (small) penis.

Is anyone else attracted to Don Jr.? I want him in me deeply

EWWWWWWW. r42 is sick in the head.

R35 you seem extremely triggered and are projecting all sorts of things on me. Is your argument so weak you must resort to ad hominem attacks?

R35 This is for you

R44 Why do you seem to care what a psychiatrist you haven't sought treatment with thinks of you? You'll do what you do regardless. I'm just trying to make the point that though some psychologists and lesbians find you alright, doesn't mean the vast majority in the field do. You or others advocating for these relationships need to have a very special set of circumstances for us to sympathise with you. Usually those circumstances are never met.

F&F.

Troll threads are picking up these days. Be alert.

Nice try R45. I'm neither a "Pizzagate troll" nor a conservative who believes in conspiracy theories. I just know a creeper when I can smell him leagues away. Me thinks thou dost protest too much! 99.9% of Chickenhawks are maladapted and incapable of having or sustaining meaningful relationships that are healthy, or normal. At best you shall achieve a symbiotic transactional relationship if you continue to insist upon dating early teenagers.

R46 I'm not advocating for anything. I am responding to your over the top statements and holier-than-thou attitude. It's interesting that you can't make an argument without projecting all sorts of motivations on me.

R48 Considering I date men who are in their 40s you sound unhinged and should go to the Pizzagate thread

What age are you that you are such an ardent defender of grown men dating sixteen year-olds? It does beg the question. I'm neither holy, nor chaste, I just hapoen to prefer the company of GROWN MEN. You are deluding yourself to believe a sixteen year-old is capable of an adult relationship.

R51 and yet the age of consent is still 16 in many states.

Go on "appreciating" them R52, so long as appreciating them isn't some euphemism you're fond of. If you're really not into them, why continue to respond? I have no issue with age differences among adults. That isn't the context here, yet you've gone all "Finn Wolfhard Troll" on the matter. I also think it's fine for teens to be sexual... albeit with their peers, not grown men. You don't need my tacit approval. Go troll elsewhere.

weird how the legal age varies so round the world.....

R53 you're accusing ME of trolling for pointing out facts, as opposed to your breathless hysteria?

R55 Bye Felicia!

I agree that there is so much beauty in boys. Truly, they are the creator’s greatest achievement. But I can admire a boy without turning him into a love object.

R57 That's an acceptable and healthy statement or belief R57. Dogs and Grandparents are beautiful too, and I have no interest in shagging them either.

R56 oh, I see why you are so concerned about this! You clearly have the mentality of a fourteen year old girl.

Just because it's legal, doesn't mean it's appropriate. If the age of consent is 16, then let the 18-year-olds have them.

The problem is that some young (15-17) year old boys are only physically attracted to mature men. Who am I to tell them not to follow their desires?

[quote]Who am I to tell them not to follow their desires?

A mature, reasonable adult?

R62 what is an "adult"? Apparently the age is different everywhere.