Actor Mark Webber complains on Twitter that he was recast in ABC pilot becomes execs felt he wasn’t handsome enough

Well, he's the one that wanted to be an actor, right? It comes with the territory.

Um...they weren't exactly wrong.

It's not because he's ugly. I'm taking over the role because I sucked off the producer. Shoulda been a team player, Mark!

It's getting absurd.

It should be a new meme.

Olympic swimmer - I was cut from the Olympic team because I didn't swim fast enough.

Rocket scientist - I was let go by NASA for not being smart enough

Concert Pianist - I was fired by the symphony for not playing the piano well enough

Copy editor - I was fired by the magazine for not having good enough grammar

Brain surgeon - I was fired by the hospital for my hands not being steady enough

Proctologist - I was fired by the medical group because my fingers weren't long enough

Hes not bad looking, and if hes talented, why should his looks play the main role? Hes not the lead...

Gone are the days where only women have to be young and sexy to get work, men are now being objectified way more

This happens all the time in the Soap world, and hey would say "we want to move the character in a new direction"

If it makes him feel any better Im sexy AF and my shows just keep getting camcelled after a few episodes.

Now he knows how I feel!

Us ugly men are sick and tired of this mistreatment #uglymanmetoo

R9

His wife, Theresa Palmer, is amazingly talented and should have a proper career, but she seems to be more pregnant than not. He must need a job. He is 33 and has three kids with Palmer and one with his ex.

R12 she sort of disappeared after I Am Number Four. Isn't in she doing some show about witches now?

He’s 33? You mean 43, right?

I could never be an actor. The rejections and getting fired for being ugly. How does this not crush someone's dreams

I think he's good looking- he needs to learn to trim his beard better.

Sorry, yes, he's 43.

Congratulations!!! 🎊🎉🍾 That’s great news, Mark!

Wait, why are you not happy?

He's 39

That flushing sound you hear is his career going down the toilet.

R11, you’re one to talk. You had me replaced from the pilot with that cunt Alyson Hannigan. Now you and your husband know how it feels.

R21 take it up with this guy!

It's my birthday today! I'm a hot 38, but the part is now too small time for me. Jealous, bitches?

I wonder if Rami will do another video game anytime soon?

It's not just Millennials who are snowflakes, apparently.

Webber also had an alcohol problem before meeting Palmer.

This happened to Meryl when she auditioned for King Kong. They said she was too ugly so they hired beautiful Jess. "Che brutta" I think was the exact phrase they used.

He’s not the best looking guy but he fits the look of a character who runs a small town bar. Tough break though.

Poor guy. I enjoyed him in "Snow Day," but for years, I thought he was the same person as that other wholesome-faced dork-a-saurus, Patrick Fugit.

Here they are together, lol.

He has the worst hair.

Sometimes I get him confused with another actor called Brendan Fletcher.

R32, yes, him too! Along with Fugit, all three must have competed like hell for "white boy with pothead body" roles.

Good luck getting work after taking the whole thing to Twitter. Hollywood now knows he's quick to raise a ruckus in social media if things don't go his way.

I'm not handsome myself and I totally get why he's pissed, and yet I totally agree with the producers since I personally totally want to see attractive people in films and on tv. Unfortunately for non-handsome guys Hollywood is all about selling beauty and complaining about it in public seems idiotic. Obviously this guy is certainly not the ugliest man out there and he most definitely should've stayed quiet about the whole thing and moved on.

Cobie Smulders is equally ugly. Why wasn’t she fired? Seems like a clear case of gender discrimination.

R35 lol what? You could argue she's basic but not ugly.

He's subsequently raised a big finger with another tweet. Read it at the link. Good for him.

What was Pablo recast in?

At the gym I heard a guy complaining because he couldn't get work as an actor because he wouldn't get a nose job. But he did have a pretty bad nose. It's a profession where looks are key. That's just the reality unless you are a mega talent or not play leads.

R37 good for him.

Mark is not bad looking.

I've always found Mark attractive.

I've never noticed him before. Whine, 10. Looks, 3.

R43 I see what you did there.

He should only be reading for “best friend”.

R4: The difference is that being an actor is not about how handsome you are, it's about your acting chops

R46 unless it's the CW or MTV.

His wife, Teresa Palmer is in Discovery of Witches. I like the show but she's the weak link. I wonder how he feels that his wife gets way more work than he does and is a lot more famous.

This pilot sounds like it's DOA anyway. #Blessingindisguise

[Quote] I wonder how he feels that his wife gets way more work than he does and is a lot more famous.

Well both of those things were true even before they got together. So I imagine he's ok with it.

[quote]I give zero fucks what filthy rich executives at huge corporations think about me. Never have. Never will.

Laughably self-righteous.

Of course, he cares. He tweeted that he cares. He chose a career in an industry that requires him to care.

And, if they thought he was perfect for a starring role, he'd definitely care.

Honey, face it, you care.

Do people actually say "zero fucks" outside of DL?

I agree with him and it seems he was fine for the part. The creatives liked him and cast him; then the executives interfered - how often does this actually improve things?

[quote]how often does this actually improve things?

Never.

Acting is a job where people are judged in a split-second for the idiosyncratic and most petty of reasons. However, they should go crying to models who have it much worse.

He looks ungroomed.

Let's be honest, this dude is going to get blackballed now. It's bad enough that he dared to call out the executive types for essentially fucking him over (you know they don't take that well), but now the whole entire series is tarnished by his complaining. No one even knows what this show is all about, but it will forever be tainted by these complaints and viewers will boycott as a result. Middle aged fraus (the primary TV audience) will feel like Hollywood is attacking them personally if Mark is considered ugly by their standards. That's going to leave a lot of angry actors and crew people who will blame their own unemployment in this fickle business on Mark's complaining sabotaging the show. Why else would he have posted this follow up tweet?

[Quote] I feel sad that by expressing my own bad experience with the show I was fired from, that it could interfere with the positive experience the actors & creatives that are still on the show should be having. I wish the writers, producers and cast nothing but love.

It won't matter because the damage is done and I think he realizes that deep down, hence this quote.

[Quote] I was raised by a single teenage mom. We were poor. We were homeless. We lived in the streets. She became a radical revolutionary leader. I give zero fucks what filthy rich executives at huge corporations think about me. Never have. Never will.

On the flip side, no one knew who the hell he was before all of this occurred. He was essentially a nameless actor who looked like a bunch of other people like Patrick Fuget and Brendan Fletcher competing for the same roles. That will no longer be the case. If he were smart, he'd transition into SJW Youtuber and air more grievances about white privilege and feminism while grifting middle aged fraus for cash. It will be a lot more lucrative for him in the long run and there's nothing Hollywood executives can do to stop him.

R57, you're giving people a lot more credit than they deserve. In a week, no one is going to remember this flap or this actor at all and it won't mean a whit to the success or failure of the show.

That's a joke r46. How you look is a crucial part of being an actor. It's a combination of being able to act like the character, and whether you look the way they want the character to look. So much of landing a role is being the physical type they had in mind for the role.

[quote]He was essentially a nameless actor who looked like a bunch of other people like Patrick Fuget and Brendan Fletcher competing for the same roles

He reminds me a lot of Fletcher.

Too bad his ex's show SMILF was cancelled, he appeared twice as a priest. Maybe she would have keep bringing him on.

I don't think what he wrote was whiny or a deterrent to his career. He was being honest. The same way Dave Annabel was when he made an IG post about his disappointment of being recast on "Yellowstone".

Cute enough.

Poor baby!

He looks especially good in that pic above bc the beard hides his lack of jawline, and the hat the fact that he's losing his hair. He's still a decent looking guy for sure, better than average, but they probably wanted a stud for the role, it sucks but that's what he signed up for as an actor, especially on a network television show. His reaction s understandable but should have been kept private, not posted on Twitter.

Tell me about it!

Myra Hudson did the same to me.

People get recast all the time. Claiming you "don't care what rich execs" aka the DECISION MAKERS, think is a sure way to get your name on a "Do Not Cast" pile.

He looks like I can ask him questions about hardware at Home Depot. Maybe he can get a job as an extra on Judge Judy. Focus groups discussing basement paneling is another option.

He just directed a movie that played the Tribeca Film Festival and he got good reviews for it and he went out of his way on social media to shit on the movie critics, WHO JUST GAVE HIS FILM GOOD REVIEWS, saying basically that oh for once they got it because I'm so awesome and my movie is so emotionally resonant. He's got a real chip on his shoulder.

It’s one thing to say you’re disappointed. It’s another to give a middle finger to the industry.

Poor Mark is not aging so well, if OP's photo is what he looks like currently.

I think he's kinda cute. I was watching Julianne Moore on that Andy Cohen show and she talked about how she was fired from Can You Ever Forgive Me and was replaced by Melissa McCarthy. Even someone as beautiful and talented as Julianne can get recast. That was a big wake up call to me that it happens a lot more than you'd think. I guess it goes under the umbrella of "creative differences."

Initial Rachel Dratch was to play the Jane Krakowski character on 30 Rock but NBC brass allegedly didn't think she was attractive enough. The concession was for her to recur on the show as different characters and that happened a few times, but not with the regularity it was supposed to happen.

I think Webber is not bad looking and has possibilities. I like men who are ordinary-Joe types. I wish there were fewer pretty boys and more men who looked like him on TV.

But that picture at R61! Love the dad bod, but those nasty, random tats? How many years was he in San Quentin? And then there's the chest stubble. A guy like that doesn't stand out that much in terms of looks, so he might as well leave his chest hair alone. At least he'd get the hairy-chest-loving crowd.

Then again, I grew up with both a mother and a father in a house in the suburbs, not in a car. Also, the only thing my mother was radical about was the belief that spectator pumps could be worn after Labor Day. Thus, I am on Webber's shit list without ever having met him.

R58 You vastly underestimate the attention span of angry fraus, especially when they are personally insulted. By saying that Mark is not attractive enough (which I highly doubt was the case, by the way...it was probably just a creative difference, but that's not what was tweeted and the network hasn't corrected that impression, though it should if it wants to save its reputation among fraus), they are essentially saying ugly fraus are too ugly to be featured on TV and given success and that won't fly in fly over country. They are already mad at Hollywood and network TV (part of why ratings have plunged in recent years) and this type of stuff serves to further alienate them. This is bad for the long term business of broadcast to leave these types of accusations unanswered. If they want to survive as a business, they are going to have to address this. It may be true that people want to see attractive people on TV, but they also want to see ugly people who look "like them" as well (hence why Melissa McCarthy, Rebel Wilson, Kevin James and Chrissy Metz work). TV executives may be shallow, but they aren't dumb and they know money comes from these fraus that they need. If this isn't addressed soon, short term, the show will flop, and long term, broadcast will be in near extinction by the end of the next decade. Mark's not wrong about network TV's self inflicted death, but he's ruining his own career in order to tell the truth and share sour grapes with his followers.

I'm amazed network TV still exists. Like the Oscars it seems so 20th century.

Mark has had a decent career for an average looking guy who is not Hollywood/Instagram-hot. He's had some decent roles in films over the years.

[Quote] I think Webber is not bad looking and has possibilities. I like men who are ordinary-Joe types.

Any faves?

[Quote] but they also want to see ugly people who look "like them" as well (hence why Melissa McCarthy, Rebel Wilson, Kevin James and Chrissy Metz work).

None of those people are ugly though.

[Quote] He's had some decent roles in films over the years.

I think the last thing I saw him in was Scott Pilgrim.

I'd like to see those posts R67.

I work as an entertainment journalist and marvel at how actors are unhappy with great reviews and positive statements. Just be like Julie Fucking Andrews who is gracious and says THANK YOU.

Seriously, I saw Julie say thank you to a reporter once with kindness and class over a story the reporter wrote.

People surprise me every time.

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[quote] Just be like Julie Fucking Andrews who is gracious and says THANK YOU.

O Rly?

[quote] I think Webber is not bad looking and has possibilities. I like men who are ordinary-Joe types. I wish there were fewer pretty boys and more men who looked like him on TV.

Too bad Webber's attitude makes him sound like an insolent brat. He's had a long career in Hollywood which makes this outburst totally idiotic. It makes you wonder was he drunk or on drugs while posting.

[quote][R58] You vastly underestimate the attention span of angry fraus, especially when they are personally insulted. By saying that Mark is not attractive enough (which I highly doubt was the case, by the way...it was probably just a creative difference, but that's not what was tweeted and the network hasn't corrected that impression, though it should if it wants to save its reputation among fraus), they are essentially saying ugly fraus are too ugly to be featured on TV and given success and that won't fly in fly over country.

That's quite a reach. You're pretty much demanding the studio apologize the "angry fraus" for a business decision. I doubt anyone will be rallying behind Webber in this case. Guess who are the people who want all those super handsome muscle hunks on romance novel covers? You really think they'd rather see guys like Webber? It's all about selling a dream and the fraus know it perfectly well.

R78, you're pretty much saying being fat means being ugly. None of the overweight people mentioned are ugly, they're just fat. And at least with Melissa McCarthy they have absolutely wonderful screen presence. Which, BTW, could be what Webber is lacking. He decided to think it was all about his looks instead. I vaguely remember seeing him in something but I don't remember anything else about him.

I thought he was goofy cute and likable as Hal in [italic]Snow Day[/italic]. Of course, that was almost 20 years ago!

Re r82, WHET Schuyler Fisk?

Damien Lewis has had a rather successful career despite not looking like Warren Beatty. Of course, Lewis is a trained professional actor who doesn't trash executives on social media.

His mother is a "radical revolutionary"? Like as in death to the fascist insect that preys upon the life of the people?

R83 I was wondering the same thing lol

R85, his mother is Cheri Honkala, the 2012 Vice-Presidential candidate for the Green Party. Sounds like she was a teen mom and they both lived homeless for awhile when he was small.

He has about 60 movies/tv credits on his IMDB, but I only saw 2 of them.

Yes, and he has the look of a rough bum:

"Actor Mark Webber was raised by his single mother, Cheri Lynn Honkala, in the slums of North Philadelphia, where they spent a great deal of time homeless - living in cars and abandoned buildings, and struggling to survive during the harsh winters."

Ugly and poor. Can you imagine?

R3 and R7 have a point. How do you think you had Ben recast situation on Days of out lives.

[Quote] Guess who are the people who want all those super handsome muscle hunks on romance novel covers? You really think they'd rather see guys like Webber?

It's not an either or for these fraus. It's both. Unlike men, who only want to see hot, sexy women on their screens, fraus aren't quite as picky about who they consider hot and who they want to see on their TV screens. There are plenty of average looking guys who they go crazy over. Daniel Radcliffe is a prominent example. They go absolutely ape shit over him and he's only average looking. In fact, I think he's less attractive than Mark for a number of reasons (short, not as handsome, not as masculine), yet they are obsessed with him. By saying someone like Mark isn't handsome enough to play a lead role on TV, it's an insult to both the looks of the fraus and their taste in men.

Go through the replies on Mark's tweet. The vast majority of those coming to his defense and support are fraus. It's everyone else, especially those who work in show business, who are telling him to eat humble pie. That contrast matters. The actors and crew may make the show possible, but the fraus are what keep it on the air. As such, their opinions matter more, and the executives at ABC ought to realize that before it becomes a bigger problem than they can handle. They already have to deal with the blowback from Constance Wu's big mouth. They don't need this as well.

[Quote] you're pretty much saying being fat means being ugly. None of the overweight people mentioned are ugly, they're just fat.

The people I particularly mentioned also happen to be ugly, especially Rebel Wilson and Chrissy Metz. They could lose all of the weight and still be ugly. And the fact remains that all actors, regardless of their looks, look terrible when they gain a lot of weight. Compare skinny Channing Tatum or Chris Pratt to their fat selves and it's not even a contest. The DL didn't even give Pratt one second of discussion time when he was doughy and plump, but when he lost the weight and bulked up, the threads started in earnest. Fat makes you look worse, even if you aren't an ugly person naturally.

Regardless, the point is that Mark and people like him are popular not for being traditionally sexy, but because they are homely and relatable to fraus which is a turn on in its own way. If ABC is having closed door discussions saying that people are too ugly (when they aren't in Mark's case), it will turn the fraus off. It's not the catalyst for a complete exit from watching network TV, but it will definitely sour them on Colbie Smoulders' new show (she's not exactly popular with the frau) and it will leave a bad taste in their mouth that will only get worse if more stories like this leak out. As I've said from the beginning, I don't really believe they canned Mark because he was seen as too ugly (or why would they have hired him in the first place), but if that impression isn't corrected by the network, then it will not end well for them in the long run considering who their audience is.

I actually think if Chrissy Metz were a normal weight, she'd be pretty. She has (underneath all the lard) a pretty face.

Rebel Wilson, OTOH, should be taken out by a can of Raid.

I think Rebel Wilson can be very pretty if she lost the weight. She would look like Amy Schumer.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Has 4 children to care for, tells his industry he doesn't care if they like him.

[Quote] fraus aren't quite as picky about who they consider hot and who they want to see on their TV screens.

One of them being Cole Sprouse.

[Quote] They already have to deal with the blowback from Constance Wu's big mouth. They don't need this as well.

Interesting comparison. I find what Mark said to be worse. Yet the comments in this thread are not even close to being disgusting.

I just googled his replacement, and although probably considered more classically handsome than Webber, he does nothing for me.

Who is the replacement?

[quote] I think the last thing I saw him in was Scott Pilgrim.

R76, he's come out in a lot of indie and horror films that I guess I've just happened to see over the years.

R98, omg, I totally misread the Variety article. Thought they recast but that's the name of the character. Ironically, there is an actor by that name and he looks the park.

[Quote] and he looks the park.

Interesting 🤔

Meant the part, lol.

The movie of his that I remember best is Uncanny, which is a pretty good sci fi film.

I watched a couple of trailers for his movies and immediately saw one of Webber's problems: his voice. Webber has a high, light voice. It's not a feminine or effeminate voice, not at all. It's just a rather thin, young-sounding voice. There's no masculine command in his voice, nor is there any sexy or intimate quality. It's easy to imagine Webber's voice going all high-pitched and squeaky when he gets upset or excited. That's unattractive in anyone, but especially in a grown man.

Voice is important, especially if you're not movie-star handsome or don't have a strong virile presence on screen.

[Quote] Webber has a high, light voice. It's not a feminine or effeminate voice, not at all. It's just a rather thin, young-sounding voice. There's no masculine command in his voice, nor is there any sexy or intimate quality

Is it high pitched like DL Favorite Alec Benjamin?

Wee Rami Malek just got cast in a crime movie with Denzel Washington, which he is going to do immediately after Bond. Given Bohem Rap could have been a PR disaster because of the Singer allegations, it's fascinating to see how adept he was in negotiating the rocks to scoop the awards pool. Diplomacy and maturity really are *everything* in Hollywood. I think the most important skill is diplomacy, even more than acting.

Absolutely agree with your last sentence R105. I make a lot of my income by biting my tongue.

I don't play the numbers game--or feel sorry for actors who lose roles that way--but...

Putting things into perspective, IRL...He's SMOKING hot, BUT you could trip over BETTER-LOOKING men just walking around New York.

Hot doesn't always mean better looking in reality because there are nuances and shit. The thing is...if his character is a fucking bartender, I don't see the problem here.

R107, he's more indie hot than Hollywood hot. He probably would've been ok in his role but the studio decided they wanted something else, and since they pay the bills they most certainly have the final say. We all know getting fired feels terrible but not many people would've even paid attention to the whole thing had he not raised hell about it himself. A male Hollywood semi-star having a tantrum about losing a role just feels so silly. A wounded male ego in action.

^I don't think Mark is bad-looking. Certainly not for the roles he usually plays. (Hint: it's not rom-com leading man.)

Here’s the trailer for the show. I don’t think he’s in it.

Awful name (Stumptown is an uncommon nickname for Portland OR)

This show is going to be a giant failure.

Shtumptown

Shittown.

The main character is a lesbian?

Dumptown.

I love how Hollywood goes into hysterics every time somebody states the obvious: it's a nasty, shallow business that dicks over everyone it can.

R116 well clearly Mark cares.

Just from the trailer, the show looks like a giant piece of crap. Won't even last half a season. Shame that Mark didn't just shut his mouth and let failure be vindication. Now he's blackballed himself over a show that would not have been his meal ticket if he hadn't been canned.

R118 that’s the thing. Most new shows get cancelled. Very few of them turn into steady high paying jobs for the actors. I know he’d probably love to be on a Greys Anatomy or NCIS. The actors who stayed with those shows can retire if they’re crazy with their spending. Those shows are rare though, and not all the actors on them will last the whole run.

Re [R82], WHET Schuyler Fisk?

In recent years she has focused more a music career. It never took off.

I think Mark felt safe saying this because he's more of an indie actor. He definitely hasn't appeared in much network TV. I still don't think it was very wise, but well, it was less of a gaffe than Constance Wu's tweet.

I read this as Mark Wahlnerg

R119 The guy who plays Alex on Grey's Anatomy is one lucky son of a bitch. He's not the face of the show, his looks have faded, but he's hung on since the beginning. I'm sure he's sitting pretty cash wise.

Teresa Palmer has been known her entire career as the poor man's Kristen Stewart so if that doesn't tell you everything you need to know about how non-amazing and non-talented she is I don't know what will.

R121 he cared enough about getting network money to do this pilot and be mad he got replaced. He probably would have gotten another pilot next spring.

Exactly. Indie projects usually pay peanuts, but that is fine if you are in a franchise or have a series. How many actors talk about them taking theses projects for security and doing art house/indies for artistic reasons? It is known. Geez!

All this over some series that is likely to last a season or two. Does anyone think long term anymore? Goodbye for people thinking about or keeping you in mind for other projects.

Maybe Mark can do "Snow Day 2: 20 years later." 😆

Vasectomy on aisle Mark!

Mark is continuously trying to save face, but it won't make a lick of difference. The show sucks and he'll get blamed for its cancellation.

Cobie Smulders is about as entertaining as a wet turd.

I love how these celebrities eat up all the validations from friends and fans who are in zero position to help tbem get future jobs or pay their bills.

Cobie Smulders was just in the number one movie in the world. Why is she crawling back to television?

He got replace by Michael Early?

R132 = moron.

R132 Cobie Smulders is not the "star" of the Avengers movies, she's a third rate SHIELD agent who barely gets any screen time. Now that the franchise is through, it's back to television for her. Why else would she relegate herself to doing a project where's she's second banana to fucking Billy Eichner of all people?

R133 Michael Ealy has gay face.

Gee Cobie Smulders had ovarian cancer when she was just 25. That's scary.

Cobie has HIMYM money. Assuming she's invested wisely, she's set for life.

Cobie should be happy that her husband aka beard had his stupid sitcom renewed by ABC.

[quote] Teresa Palmer has been known her entire career as the poor man's Kristen Stewart so if that doesn't tell you everything you need to know about how non-amazing and non-talented she is I don't know what will.

I never heard that before. But, from what I have seen up-close (watching even her dailies) she is very talented and the camera adores her in a way it adores few actresses.

R139 = Mark Webber

I think network tv in the U.S. blows. I haven't liked anything it has to offer in years. I mostly watch British tv and films where I get to see real actors like Olivia Coleman, Josh O'Conner, and Barry Keoghan. None of them would be hired for a network show.

R120 I didn't know she was a singer. One of my favourite movies is Orange County.

R123 I don't blame him. Dude has like 20 kids to feed.

R124 can't say I've ever heard that before. But be that as it may, I'd still take her acting over KStew's.

Mark looks like the Icelandic singer Jonsi in r108 pic. And judging by the shows trailer he would be a great fit.

Ohmygawd, r64, LOVE "Sudden Fear"! I've seen it many times, and it gets better and better. It's a very well-made film even though it seems a bit campy, it's really not. Joan, Jack Palance and Gloria Grahame are all in peak form.

Maybe he should use this time working on the stage Honing his craft.

I love how someone in this thread is trying to say Webber has a mob of angry fraus rooting for him and they will fight his fight. And yet Webber's apology tweet at R129 has paltry 22 likes. Not much of an army behind him, huh?

He just should've stayed quiet about the whole thing and move on. It's a good thing he at least apologized but he should've thought it all through before his first tweet.

[quote] At the gym I heard a guy complaining because he couldn't get work as an actor because he wouldn't get a nose job. But he did have a pretty bad nose. It's a profession where looks are key. That's just the reality unless you are a mega talent or not play leads.

That's very interesting.

Hes been replaced by Jake Johnson

[quote]Proctologist - I was fired by the medical group because my fingers weren't long enough

This is a legitimate concern.

I don't find Webber particularly attractive, but I refuse to believe they replaced him because he wasn't pretty enough. The dude who took over his part is a fucking Picasso. I've actually turned off movies when this guy's face was forced upon my eyeballs. There is no way a focus group came to a consensus that this mug was preferable to stare at for 4 to 16 minutes a week:

I don' t know a single show on TV. I do work 2nd shift and don't have a dvr or any fancy online streaming- but it's all such shit. Boring people, boring situations, robotic acting. Unfunny sitcoms. Contrived reality shows with people attacking each other.

The last things I liked were Nurse Jackie, Dexter, The Sopranos, Mad Men.

Jake Johnson and Mark Webber both have basset hound faces so I don't believe TPTB told him they were passing on him for someone more attractive. Now what TPTB find attractive is that Johnson was on the successful series THE NEW GIRL which ran seven seasons. I'm sure the hope that fans of that show will tune in to Stumptown.

Jake Johnson is no looker but was on a hit show for eight seasons, so I understand the casting change. It probably has nothing to do with looks and more to do with chemistry between the leads, fitting the character more etc.

Either way, every time I see an ad for this dumb show I burst out laughing. It looks like Cop Rock levels of awful. I give it six episodes.

on't pity actors you condescending twats. It is a common tactic, pyschologically to "pity" people you fear are having a more interesting swing at the bat than you are. At least he got to be on a network pilot.. lots of people would like that shot. The gig has its ups and downs but he rewards are many for those who work at all.

Fuck off. Being an actor can be pretty fucking exciting ( I should know) Yes it has its ups and downs.. but don't pity actors ..most are having more fun than the majority of people on the planet.

Having said that, Marc should not have gone public with this. This kind of thing scares employers. Btw, it probably wasn't an issue with his looks but more with his chemistry or lake therof with leading lady So he should just man up and move on.. not a good look.

How did he land Teresa Palmer as a wife? Was it a green card situation? She could have done far better than him.

[quote]How did he land Teresa Palmer as a wife? Was it a green card situation? She could have done far better than him.

She's an Earth Mother type and so is he, a trait he got from his activist mother. I'm not mocking it, I admire that he feels strongly about social issues. I don't know he ended up with Frankie Shaw (creator/star of Showtime's SMILF). She seems like a bull in a china shop. But she hooked him up with a recurring role on SMILF. Palmer never hooked him up with a gig.

He is very handsome.

On one hand, I feel like looking good comes with the territory in this industry.

On the other, I remember the way fan favorite Scott DeFreitas was treated by ATWT execs for not being “hot enough”

He's really fugly.

With Cobie Smulders as the other lead, they probably felt that they needed at one attractive person in the couple.

Id take him over some buff,plucked,shaved instaho any day.

Google image search gave me the Australian race car driver of the same name, and I was thinking "Whoa! Execs thought THAT guy was too ugly for television?" But with the actor, I can see it—Johnson's considerably better looking imho, but not so much that he can't play a blue-collar bartender type, and has a much better proven track record in network TV comedies.

I find Johnson absolutely hideous. There's no way I could force myself to watch anything he's in, unless he's wearing something over his head the entire time.

Jake Johnson looks like he could throw a mean fuck. He's also funny which is a bonus. Mark Webber is one of those insufferable hipsters who cries while he fucks.

[Quote] How did he land Teresa Palmer as a wife? Was it a green card situation? She could have done far better than him.

I'd say he's an upgrade from Topher Grace.

He looks like a West Virginia coal miner in his Sunday best.

Did he OD yet?

Every time this thread gets bumped, I think it's because he OD'd.

Does anyone else think Jake could stand to lose 5 to 7 pounds?

Jake could lose 10 to 20.

R154 Oh, you sound kinda smug (I should know), are you a famous actor?

[quote]Jake could lose 10 to 20.

Inches off his nose.

Even though only one character officially has Down Syndrome, (so far) every actor with a speaking role in the pilot except Cobie Smulders has Down Syndrome eyes.

Ok, they just showed an old woman who doesn't have Down Syndrome eyes, but she has a cleft lip.

Did they get some kind of discount for only casting people with birth defects?

One of my favorite movie scenes ever, mostly because we get to see Mark the shit beat out of him, partly because his ass looks nice during the caning part.

Sorry, wrong Mark.

So interesting that this has NEVER happened to an ACTRESS before.

But now he feels [italic]his [/italic]case is front page news - -

They don't let the retard have beer even though he basically has to live in a bar while Cobie fights crime with more crime.

The show is good (B+ good), but she’s too much of a cliché renegade anti-hero detective: rough-edged, alcoholic, gambler, deeply intuitive, with a sad past and no family. And an old car that’s about to bust (but never will because it plays great 70s 80s 90s soundtrack-in-a-loop at the most inopportune moments).

She has family. She has the Down Syndrome brother whom she stores in the back room of the bar. And whom she constantly and patronizingly calls "buddy".

"but now the whole entire series is tarnished by his complaining."

You're the person who says the whole vacation is ruined because somebody forgot to pack the Clorox wipes.

r180, ew. What kind of trash buys something called 'Clorox wipes'? Gross.

R155 apparently Teresa slid into his DMs on Twitter

"PUT A BUNCH OF BABIES IN ME!"

R182 lol that simple huh??

R183 probably not like that, but they did meet on Twitter when she reached out. And apparently they've moved to Australia. Must be GREAT for his kid with Frankie Shaw to have dad on the other side of the planet

They moved to Australia because he got dropped from a series? What are they going to do? Become Aussie soap opera actors? Frankie's unemployable after the SMILF disaster. And their kid is like 12, i.e. the age kids turn into delinquents or not.

R185 I'm sure Teresa could find a role on one of our Aussie shows (that isn't Neighbours or Home & Away).

I prefer Charlie Weber