The Helix Studio Soap Opera Thread Part 3

how do I hire the hot brunette with the big fat ass, he so in need of my cumwads, and I pay good.

is they on rent men?

Part three of this thread already exists here...

Methinks Mr Miller's attack dog Chad the Lawyer got in touch with DL and threatened to sue them if they didn't remove threads 2 and 3. Not sure how that would work, considering Free Speech, but it's the one explanation that seems plausible.

Next thread title as "H3L1X Studio Soap Opera Thread Part 4" or "Spiral Studio Soap Opera Thread Part 4"

I'm confused now.

R4 I get you now!

Very clever.

Thread linked in R2 has already been deleted ..

If any of them make it to 40, they will all have fat guts and worse looking faces. They will be lucky if they will be able to get it up.

Why do these threads keep getting deleted?

r9 mercurial moderation.

Blake Mitchell announces he is retiring the porn moniker (though he supposedly has a porn scene with a studio that is not Helix coming out in 2019 - wonder who that could be?) and is now going by his real name, Lane Vincent Rogers (this was announced by Lane on Twitter so I'm not doing him any disservice by writing his real name here), so he can focus on his non-porn acting career.

Good luck Lane, but I should tell you... we already knew your real name. No shock there, sorry.

Is this the one with Slaystack in it?

More like Lame Rogers amirite?! haha but seriously, has any porn actor transitioned into a serious, respected acting career?

Simon Rex.

Blake Mitchell films for CockyBoys... tell me again why he quit Helix when he was at the top of his game getting paid very well by them? Guess acting classes are expensive... and living in LA... and supporting his man/child boyfriend...

Maybe he has got a walk on part in Hollyoaks this season and needs to drop his porn name?

Is Blake filming for Cockyboys really?

Do you think his "I'm really lane rogers" shtick hurt his brand? My guess would be yes.

Looks to be true R17

It's actually a good scene. Helix taught him well.

With that bandana around his neck he reminds me of a Labrador Retriever.

He has the looks to be a regular actor. He just needs to chill and jump through the Hollywood hoops. He can do it, surely he has a sugar daddy to tide him over till the checks come in.

Wonder why he decided to work for CB?

If he stops doing porn, he can let his sugar daddy (ies) suck his cock as often as he (they) wants.

Blake Mitchell pays for the bills right now while Lane Rodgers can audition for parts or get some influencer thing going without the gay porn brand attached to it. Good luck to him.

He looks good in a generic white boy way, hollywood loves those types the only problem is the porn past, he'll never be able to have a normal career because of that, if only instead he had moved to Los Angeles at 18 and did sex work but more discreetly he could be a big actor right now.

I think there are a couple of Hollywood types who may want to look edgy by casting porn stars. In these social media days they do have a decent following (especially the Helix models). At least in some capacity as extras or brief cameos.

Yeah, he can do it, I just think the CB thing is going on the wrong direction.

He can’t be making very much money doing that. Maybe 1k a scene if he’s lucky. He could make that working a side job or putting in extra work on sets while gaining experience.

these guys need to get representation just like any other artist. They need to find a trusted and experienced agent and or manager at the least.

Meanwhile, CB will make a fortune off his scenes.

I’m not sure I’m buying that he even wants to go legit. The truth is, if he really wanted that enough, he would be doing it.

I think he prefers the bad boy thing.

Doesn't he and his boyfriend also create their own content on OnlyFans?

Girls, this only has one ending, Blake/Lane moving in and marrying some female fan-ho he knocks up, and spending the rest of his prime years resenting his wife and child. How many times has this played out?

You got a fast car...

Another site says that CockyBoys gave Blake a 6 figure contract. Good for him.

R31 Then it makes sense for him to have moved to CB, considering his rate at Helix was one of the highest among all the models (and maybe even THE highest per scene rate). Weird that he walked away from that only to come back with a different company. Wonder if the split from Helix wasn't as amicable as it was suggested, OR... he got influenced by Joey and Angel and his LA crowd and decided to move on to "greener" pastures (if the 6 figure contract is real).

Though to be honest, I can't see that being true.

Will part of the move be making Blake/Lane a big ol’ bottom to drive a new audience in?

I mean he's not even that attractive. The face is weird.

It would be amusing to put him with some of the CF guys and see how puny he suddenly looked.

Lane's Hollywood career will go as well as Sean Paul Lockhart's.

R35 What does CF have to do with it?

R35 Nothing, just amusing to see him with someone who isn't a starving twink.

R36 SPL is floundering near the drain, though I can't tell if he's about to go through it or just come out of it. To be fair, he's lasted longer than I thought he would, given his lifestyle.

I haven't heard anything from SPL for a long time. He hasn't retired to be a farmer's wife yet??

SPL is still somewhat in the limelight. He still attends industry shows (like the Grabbys), still tweets about his daily horse exercise routines, mused about ending his career with filming a scene with some adult performer whose name escapes me at the moment. Still sharing how fucked up his life is, yada yada yada... Typical SPL. He'll never go away; being in the limelight is his drug.

R41 He's still chasing pipedreams camera-wise.

Did SPL ever put out a "book" like some of these H3lix twinks?

^^He was supposed doing a book but that was years ago and I don't think it happened.

Lane Rogers sound MORE like a porn name.

I don't follow these threads so excuse me if any of this has been mentioned, but I think Brent Corrigan really messed up big time but not writing a book about all the shit he experienced at the start of his career. I think if it had been done correctly he could have gotten a lot of attention, it could have been the sort of book that Oprah featured etc etc. Instead they made that movie that I think he has bitched about and the story was told and now no one cares. Big mistake.

I don't really agree that Blake Mitchell could be a legit Hollywood actor. I do think that a gay porn star has a better shot than in previous years, but I've seen MANY of Blake's clips and I am totally unable to think of a legit role that he could have or would have been good in. What could he be cast in?

^^Blake is rather unremarkable if you take his dick out of the picture.

Well, I'd say Blake is remarkable, but the thing is, in Hollywood you're competing against The Remarkables from EVERY town in America... and beyond. Not only that, each year a NEW crop comes in, with fresher and younger faces, willing to do what it takes to make sure they get the part over you. When you sum up that competitive atmosphere, and add on a former porn career, your options are severely limited. The poster above who said he might get cast by an edgy director seems like the most likely correct to me, but if your Hollywood career is relying on being cast as a novelty by an director pushing the envelope, isn't it over already?

^^ Agreed. Every young guys' looks takes at least a -2 adjustment in Hollywood. Blake is probably routinely around waiters who are better looking than him and who have better bodies.

Couldn’t Blake Mitchell have Blake Jenner’s career? Playing a baseball player in that movie where he showed his prosthetic dick, for example?

^^^I don’t know, but now I want to see them in a baseball themed movie having sex with each other and their real dicks!

Cole Claire has been trashing Cockyboys on Twitter, so I guess he's done with them (or vice versa). Will he return to Helix, since "sacks of shit" Angel and Joey are no longer there?

It's not hard to believe any amount of drama from these thirsty little twinks, or their pimp masters.

What happened to Luke WIlder?

He was my porn crush.

Did he leave the industry or just go to another studio?

Wasn't the whole edgy director thing what James Deen did and then his career cratered.

Didn't James Deen's career implode because he got me too-ed?

I heard the stable has lots of new recruits this month... true?

They're all so ugly, OP. How do such uglies become porn stars?

If you're into twinks, I don't think they're ugly. Maybe you have an anti-blonde bias? This is the other photo I was going to use. I wanted Ms. Mills to be featured, since he's the cause of SO MUCH of the drama in the current act of the H3lix Studio Soap Opera. Does the different angle help?

R59 I'm into twinks but I still think they're ugly af.

[quote]how do I hire the hot brunette with the big fat ass, he so in need of my cumwads, and I pay good.

Josh Brady?

Who the hell is paying for all these porn sites to keep them in business? A simple Google search can give you all these scenes for free.

Blake Mitchell/Lane Rogers shooting with Bel Ami.

yea, fugly twins tho

I just saw a MEN.COM scene with Price Princeton or something like that and Joey Mills.

Mills' hole looked worn out. At one point Price put his balls into it and then added his dick for good measure.

The Butthole Challenge Part One, I think. Joey is now the Grand Canyon.

Pierce Paris?

Balls in the hole?! What will our insatiable twinks think of next?

Yes R66 it is Pierce Paris.....I had to do a search.....

Pierce Paris? So, Joey's big comeback scene is with a performer whose dick doesn't even get hard.

Joey needs to go back to twinks and twunks and ditch the sad sorry stable at men.

Helix is being sued by a former employee for allegedly stealing his "trade secrets."

This story is even more bizarre than the usual twink drama that we know and love, since the man in question (Ryan G) was apparently the "agent" of Canadian trans activist Jessica Y (for more, google #waxmyballs).

Those of you saying Blake could make it as a legitimate actor are fucking hysterical.

Blake's best shot is to end up as another Brad Benton and do a slew of direct to video schlock movies. Less than zero chance of any legit acting work, and he'll only get auditions because the casting director will want to fuck him afterwards.

Blake is already back in porn.

So what happened to Helix model Luke Wilder? His Instagram and twitter pages are both gone now

I know, what a waste. can't they shoot some caverject into Pierce Paris?

Um...sure Jan

If he has a contract with Cockyboys, maybe he's moved to New York. If he takes acting lessons and can break into the theater, he's halfway there.

r78 Is that before or after he wins the lottery and singlehandedly cures cancer?

Yeah. I think it's pretty unlikely, too.

I think Luke Wilder was only in porn to pay for college.

R81, if only that had been a work-study option for me.

R74 They all end up going back into porn... Blake, Julian Bell, Ryan Rose... it's the only thing they know, so they go back. Blake asked to re-join Helix on a part-time basis and was told no, so he ended up a free agent (CB, BA...). And please, was anyone surprised when Chad (Leo Grande) started filming porn? It was only a matter of time.

How sad is it that after the whole book affair (notice how Helix dropped that whole idea!), the one who got screwed is Cameron Parks. What a shame.

R75 I expect to see Brent Corrigan coming back soon... for his 90th comeback... LOL!!

Nice to see Brent living life in Seattle with his new beau and new tattoo.

Brent Everett is on his way back to, this time with CockyBoys - I think his first partner is Manuel Skyye.

Brent is an old bottom at this point, I wish he would do something besides porn, which is increasingly sad.

Agree R86. He finds a new man who is THE answer then it falls apart. He finds a new job and it falls apart and he is doing a “comeback”. The comeback fails and he is doing “private dates”. Just sad to see the decline and the continuous loop of bad choices. From boyfriends, to studios, to businesses - to the god damn horse. Horses are possibly the most expensive animal to own. An unemployed /underemployed person can not own a horse. For that matter, no one with less than a million dollars can really afford to own a horse.

I wonder if Casey Tanner will ever make a comeback?

Interesting read...

Comes across as a Cameron Parks bitch session, but if you're into Helix gossip, this is fun!

R89 I love this. Look how it starts out:

[quote]The kind of outrageously beautiful person who could induce hiccups in an unsuspecting stranger, with curly brown hair and doe eyes, his only professional interest dwelt in possibly working with yachts.

Yeah, Cameron, someone else SURELY wrote it. Right. Uh huh. Sure.

Very interesting read at r89. However, the gay porn industry is a for-profit business and not really into self empowerment through promoting and performing gay sex in front of a camera. It is clear that studios like Helix use "hey, it's so hot, fun and liberating to have sex as a twink!" as a marketing tool, not as a way to start a self empowerment movement within the LGBTQ Community. The same thing with using social media to sell their (paid membership only) site and porn clips where the studio's models promote their porn personanas and movies associated with the studio.

Of course, it's fairly easy to exploit young, naive twinks into thinking they are part of something new, cool and big by making gay porn for a twink studio when they crave praise and approval.

Sorry, porn personas.

To be fair, in today's porn environ, it is absolutely possible to use create your own brand via social media and leverage that into something down the road. I'm thinking specifically of Joey Mills who has 220.8K twitter followers as of this comment, which is nearly 220.8K more than I have. Since building your own brand is infinitely more valuable to these young twinks than chaining themselves to a stable, am entrepreneurial young Twink can surely use a studio like Helix to his own advantage.

r83 How do you know Blake tried to rejoin Helix? That's the kind of drama this thread exists for, tell us!!

R94 The move to LA and the subsequent cost of living makes it difficult for Mr. Rogers and Mr. Alec to live comfortably in Santa Monica without a regular income. Considering Blake was one of the highest paid performers at Helix (again makes you wonder why he left to begin with), it makes sense for him to try and come back to his familiar den.

Expensive LA made him change his mind about getting out of porn completely so he asked to come back and shoot part time, thinking Keith would say yes, considering the good relationship they had with each other.

At this point, Helix had brought in guys like Calvin Banks and Ashton Summers, big dick tops, who could replace Blake easily in scenes. So Helix took a pass, and Blake ended up shooting for Cockyboys and BelAmi.

Did he earn less with CB and BA than he would have with Helix? I would have thought the opposite but I have no idea what I'm talking about so my appraisal could be way way off.

Ashton Summers started around the same time as Blake. The interesting thing is that Ashton quit porn and then was allowed back to do scenes for Helix, but also did scenes for Cockyboys which, apparently, Helix didn't mind.

R89's article is kindof sad---the lawsuit was brought by some silly grifter, viagra is common at all porn studios, andthat porn shoots take a long time is a sign that they actually care what the content looks like. Cameron sounds like a dim, naive guy. Of course, the happy pics are bull shit and there's lots of drama and I'm sure KM is a jerk.

R98 I took it the same way. It was a fun read, and I'm sure there is a lot of truth to what was written, but also a lot of embellishment and ambiguities and bullshit. Like you, I doubt the happy pics are real (it's all staged for their audiences), there is a lot of drama (get a bunch of young twinks in a room and see if everyone gets along when the cameras are turned off), and yes, I also think KM is a jerk (though I'd use prick to describe him).

This is interesting.

R100 Yes that was interesting, thanks for sharing. Guess now we know why Blake Mitchell... oh, sorry... Lane Vincent Rogers left Helix. Or at least his reasons.

I’d like to see a mainstream film about Helix starring cute twinks like Asher Angel.

Josh Brady is cute.

Sean Ford is nice.

Sean Ford teeth are gross looking and never trust a slur who would go after someone else boyfriend.

Speaking of Ashton Summers, I saw he was recently arrested for felony assault. I wonder if Str8up will report on it, considering he is the most nominated porn model for their award show.

Kinda weird he's not excluxive to Helix, but has had something like 25 scenes since February of this year. Wonder how long he will be there.

Ashton’s boyfriend broke up with him as soon as he found out Ashton was back doing porn.

R106 What happened?

According to the police report, Ashton was at a bar with friends, and some guy that was a ex of someone he was with, poured a drink on Ashton. That guy lived in in the same building as ashton. Ashton came home with his friends and the victims ex, decided to go to the victims apartment so the ex could retrieve his things, and Ashton smashed his phone, choke holed him, hit him over the head with a beer bottle then punched him repeatedly, then his friends hit the victim too. Court date set for December 6th.

I have it on good authority that Ashton and his swedish ex didn't break up because of porn-that was just Ashton's reason he gave the public. Truth was the ex accepted it (porn-even though Ashton said he was done with it) but Ashton kept cheating on him. Travis Stevens was the final straw. The ex saw Ashton hooking up with Travis Stevens on twitter, and that was the end. Too Bad. Ex was a hottie. w Ashton can't keep a man. He had Travis for less than two months, then two more guys in orlando that lasted maybe 4-5 weeks, tops. He can't commit or stay faithful.

How does one hook up on Twitter? Does it have a new Grindr like feature or something?

Lol. Travis and Ashton posted them hooking up on Twitter (they were both in vegas, filming at the time). The ex was back in orlando in their shared apartment, and saw the pics on Osmars twitter.

The ex moved out and went to sweden after he saw the posts, and within a week travis stevens was staying with Ashton, I think Ashton and travis dated for maybe 1.5 a month? Long enough for their scene to come out and get attention for it. If we know anything about Ashton (see Joey and Ashton) it's that Ashton will do anything for attention.

This was all made public via Ashton and the ex's instagram, and travis and Ashtons twitter.

Does Josh Brady escort?

What is the name of the one with 80 something as his number in OP pic? He’s very cute!

R114 You mean number 82? That’s the aforementioned Sean Ford. Here he is being ruined by Austin Wolf.

Thank you R115. He’s delicious.

Why did Sean Ford leave Helix? Is he still with cocky boys?

R106 I highly doubt Zach will report on this. He's one of those who carefully monitors what he posts and what people comment. If he doesn't like a comment, he'll delete it and ban you from the site. Trust me, he's done it to me a few times. Isn't it nice to see a website that reports both sides? he says sarcastically. To Str8Up and similar sycophant sites, everything Helix touches is gold and how dare anyone have a differing opinion. You'll see Vegas Nights sweep their awards in January. What will be interesting is whether Cameron Parks wins for Best Actor. If he does, and if he is there to accept the award, will Cameron thank Keith? To be in the room for that moment...

I imagine Zach will have an exclusive interview with Ashton where he tells his side of the story about the arrest. I am sure Zach will be more than happy for his site to be used to deliver damage control in exchange for mad clicks from Ashton and Helix Studios fans.

What happened to Manuel Skyye boyfriend who was also doing porn?

Joey also did movie with JJ Knight for Men.

In the video I saw last week Josh Brady was growing some nice man boobs...scroll down for the boobilicious pics.

Cameron Parks is so full of shit Funny how in the article he left out the fact that he was involved in most of the drama at Helix. He is the one who was accused of sexually assaulting several 8teenboy models. He is the one who made that mocking, Gaslighting video of Ben masters with Joey Mills an angel rivera while Ben was on his sick bed. Read the article again. What it hints at but doesn't say specifically is that Joey Mills couldn't pass his STD tests but for some reason his ego was so big that he thought Helix should let him(the great Joey Mills) film anyway.

If Keith Mills is a piece of shit which I don't doubt then Cameron is an even bigger one. Those models from bumfuck nowhere are the same models Cameron tried to fuck every 5 minutes. You see how he really thinks about people. Cameron, Joey and Angel were the mean girls of Helix studios and Helix is better off without them. As a side note angel Rivera was a Guysinsweatpants exclusive model for like 5 minutes before Austin fired his ass.

R122 Good post. How do you know Joey Mills couldn't pass his STD tests? And when was Angel fired from GISP?

I think you're right in categorizing Cameron, Joey and Angel as the mean girls of Helix. But let's not forget that you had Deniz in the background manipulating them in some way, whether overtly or simply whispering in their ears.

The great Joey Mills... yup, that's what he thinks of himself. Great way to describe him!

Joey has a big head (and a big dick) because he has such a crossover following. He is like a teen idol to thousands of teen girls and gay boys. His social media is like something from Tiger Beat magazine. It's a very odd combination.

Blake Mitchell is an asshole too r123

A friend of mine saw him at an industry party once and said he was rude, he wouldn't give you the time of day unless you were some skinny little Twink. Very very big ego and self important thst guy is.

Joey and Angel are with Deniz right now in Montreal. As you kmow he's Joey's Sugar daddy. He also got Noah White hooked on drugs and riuned him as a model before he moved on to Joey.

R125 I can see that about Blake. And totally agree that if you are not a skinny little twink, he pays you no mind. Unlike Kyle and Max, who are very approachable (as are other models I'm sure), Blake does come across as being very self-important with a very big ego. I guess when you're young, in good shape and have a big dick, you are more likely to have this type of attitude. Personally I think it's funny that Keith turned Blake down when Blake came back and asked to film again for Helix, even on a part-time basis.

But Keith is known for that - models leave him and generally he turns his back on them. Andy Taylor is a definite exception.

Are Joey and Angel still in Montreal with their drug/sugar daddy Deniz? Yeah, Deniz definitely ruined Noah White, who finally wised up after Deniz cheated on him with Jett Black and went back to FL. I feel bad for Noah though. I heard he was a nice guy.

I guess the publishing arm of Helix has taken a dive and they are now focusing on the live web cam arm of Helix? Three books... that's it?????

Josh Brady is a god, as is Ashton (but FFS, calm down with the tattoos)

Str8UpGayPorn is about as fair and impartial as Fox News.

Blake is an emotional slut, every partner is the "love of his life." Chad looks 12, hard pass for me. Of course they're struggling in LA. It's an expensive town and Twitter fangirls don't pay the bills.

Maybe I'm biased but I still think that there is unresolved feelings between Blake and Casey.

The fastest way to bet banned from posting on Str8upgayporn is to say something negative about Joey Mills or Angel Rivera. Zach is so far up their asses his feet a dangling out of their but holes. He might let you get away with it a couple of times but that's about it. I remember when I posted a link to Ben Masters response video to Joey Mills and angels video where they lied and said they didn't cheat he edited it out he changed my post. Eventually he banned me from posting.

People used to think that Zach was a Helix studios fan but when his favorite models left he turned on them as well.

Zach is in it for himself. All he cares about is clicks for SUGP (and being recognized as a power player in the gay porn buiz - remember when he outed a competing blogger out of spite, because the other blogger won an award and not Zach?). Reporting about Helix and the drama provides those clicks.

Yeah but Zach didn't report on Ashton Summers getting in trouble with the law. He's reported on other pornstars getting in trouble with the law before. He picks and chooses. No consistency with him only hypocrisy.

God that blond hair is awful.

R133 OTish but I recently learned, although I'm not sure how true it is, that Blake's Rachel-Maddow-looking twink BF is almost 30!?

R134 It's true. He's a pedophile's dream, an adult who looks 14.

"I'm gonna win an Academy Award!"

r133 OMG is that his BOYFRIEND?! I thought he was posing with a young fan or taking a picture with some famous kid I'd never seen before. God talk about BOY-friend. Wow that is something, isn't it?

And I agree the hair is loud and honestly offensive.

If Blake err...I mean Lane wants to get an acting gig. If the show is renewed he could probably try to get a job on Days of our lives with particular set of "skills".

Everything Lane tweets or instas these days makes me laugh. Not sure why he thought leaving Helix was a good idea considering he was making a crap load of money per scene, but I hope he thinks it's worth it to go out on his own to produce content for JFF or OF, and to be a free agent so he can fly to Prague and party with the Bel Ami boys, or dip his toes in the CockyBoys pool.

Regarding free agents, interesting to see a couple of rival studios release Calvin Banks' scenes in the same week - he partners with William Seed (why Calvin why??) and gets off with Tannor Reed on ColbyKnox. These are after his Helix scene with Travis Stevens was released a few weeks ago.

Is this the new porn? No more contract/exclusive models? Now it's whoever is available to shoot for whichever studio wants them?

How does his childbride feel about him flirting with the guy he cheated on his last boyfriend with?

Calvin Banks used to be so cute. His looks are changing rapidly.

Calvin Banks looks weird with that ugly man bun.

R139 Maybe the child bride is hoping for a threesome with Sean and Lane?

Calvin Banks always looks like he needs a shower.

Is Calvin the one who was molested by his father? If so I’m willing to give him a break.

It seems like Banks hates his hair. He's always doing some weird perms and grease and strange hairstyles.

I can't believe Calvin Banks got fucked by Brent Corrigan in Ultra Fan - he looks so young and so different with straight hair v curly/man bun.

WHET Luke Wilder?

He was out of place there, but hot AF?

Maybe he has stopped doing porn r147 or maybe he's going to go the OnlyFans route.

The story is that Luke was saving up for school and then bounced. Shame because he was perfect.

Maybe Lane bf doesn't mind him flirting with Sean because they relationship they have is mostly a business one.

I think Luke was a closet gay4pay - he made a big deal out of his supposed "bisexuality" and claimed he had not been with many men when he was hired. Unlike Men, Sean Cody and many more studios, Helix doesn't see "straight men" having gay sex as part of their brand so "straight" guys who think they can cash in probably just pull the fluidity get out of jail free card (anyone challenging said identification would be swarmed by online trolls & fraus that are treat gay porn as some sort weird fandom (and all the crazy that goes with fandom).

Wasn't Luke allegedly seeing some twink?

Luke's first video was with a guy he'd been fucking and his second video was a recreation of his first gay encounter.

So I'm thinking it wasn't an act because porn studios aren't that clever, but who knows.

Luke was very good friends with Cole Claire, who recruited him for Helix. They had a falling out over another model (whose name escapes me at the moment), around the same time Cole left for Cockyboys.

I think R149 is right in that Luke was in it to make some quick cash for school.

Luke Wilder is not heterosexual in anyway. As a matter of fact he's a notorious twink lover and fucked every twink at 8teenboy while he was a Helix model including, Devin Lewis, Milo Harper and Tristan Adler and Jamie Ray. Those are the ones I know of for sure they may have been others.

Oh and Cole Claire outed him as someone who loves to bottom for twinks in a twitter post. I guess either Helix or Luke himself thought the idea of him being versatile would hurt his image. I don't agree but whatever.

Lucky them R155

R120 Even JJ's cock bumps around in Joey's saggy ass. Of course, JJ used to be Corrigan's guy, so he's used to sweeping the hallway with his dick.

I don't have much of a problem with Calvin Bank's different hair styles, but what does turn me off a bit is his acne, on his face and body, not covered up with make up.

When I want to watch amateur porn, I look for amateur porn. When I look for high end porn I look for something with more production value (and that includes body and face make-up to cover up blemishes).

Oh I forgot this interesting tidbit Luke Wilder was also fucking Kyle Ross's older brother Ryan Ross summer of 2018 or so

Cole Claire spilled to me that Ryan was gay and liked to ""date"" older rich guys. When Ryan showed off a fancy expensive car a few months ago Kyle made a joke tweet "dude who's dick are you sucking" but quickly deleted it.

Ryan also used to live with former Helix model Kurt Summers. If you look at Ryan's social media he's not hiding the fact that he's gay but he's not explicit about it either. Ryan also used to work for Helix Studios packaging their DVD's

But anyway Luke and Ryan has a hot short summer fling and for a while when you saw one you saw the other. Luke also did a scene when Kyle that summer also which must have been an interesting conversation piece for the bother. LOL

Also Kyle's twin brother Kriss Ross is Bi and used to have a boyfriend, I couldn't get his name. He's also dated girl. Imagine having 3 sons and not one of them being straight. Everyone loves Ryan he's a sweetheart. Kriss is a Trump supporting republican.

Luke snapchated a bunch of pics and vids with Ryan

I'd max out my credit card for a night with Luke. Fuck.

R159 Ugh, the Ross twins are somewhere between human veal and mannequins. No thanks.

I don't get what Luke sees in these particular twinks he fancies. My dick retracts into my groin whenever I see those particular twinks on Helix. Ashton Summers? My dick gets so hard for him, but for the twinks Luke likes? Not at all.

I actually like Kyle Ross and Ryan Ross, Drew/Kriss not so much. but I like twinks so...

I find the 3 gay brothers, (well two gay one Bi) thing kind of interesting. I mean it's just the 3 of them no other siblings. I wonder how often that happens?

Does anyone know if Ben is still with Ryan?

I think he is r165

I'm still in shock that Kyle Ross is dating Chase Brown... talk about a 180 from Max Carter. Chase is a "daddy", and I didn't think Kyle went for older hairy guys. Thought he much preferred blond smooth twinks like Max. Maybe Mr. Ross has truly grown up, considering he's Operations Manager at Helix (he's Keith's number 2), got rid of his blond highlights, has a big boy haircut, got into shape (tried to gain as much muscle as he could), then hooked up with Chase... nice to see that people can grow.

Is Chase Brown a big star in Vegas along the lines of a Wayne Newton or a Shady Tree?

R168 I don't think he's achieved Wayne Newton status, but I can imagine he has a nice following.

8teenboy model Trent Olsen was arrested today for making child porn with his own little brother 9 years old. What is the world coming too

R170 Geezus. I hope they throw away the key if true.

The boyfriend filmed the arrest. The things you do for ... social media followers.

R172 Sounds like he's thirsty enough to drink anything.

"8teenboy model Trent Olsen was arrested today for making child porn with his own little brother 9 years old."

Pics or it didn't...

Oh, wait...never mind...

R174 He just looked at his brother and realized that he'd fit right in with the rest of the undercooked 8teen stable. Hopefully he'll enjoy his jail time.

Perhaps Trent should get Alan Dershowitz to defend him.

In case anyone hasn't seen it.

The story is horrifying, but the boyfriend is cringe. "I need to share this with all my followers! It's about MEEEE!"

WHO is the hottie in foreground? Number 84, I think. Damn cute, even/especially for a 2019 porn star.

It just shows how brain dead Daniel Hausser is that he believes the whole world revolves around how many Instagram followers you have. Daniel didn't make those postings on IG of the arrest etc to help that 9yo kid; he did it to gain as many new followers as he could. He lacks any form of moral compass, and I really hope this backfires on him and studios take a good hard look as to whether they hire him again.

He's only been charged withe possession? Even though he's a performer in the video?

R181 it's only been a day. And it may have been created in another state

Ah, that makes sense. The porn blog said he was from Ohio or Idaho, something like that.

Str8UpGay Awards are on Sunday... Easy predictions... Vegas Nights wins Best Film, Alex Roman wins Best Director for said film, and Taylor "I'm a Fag Hag" Saracen wins Best Screenplay for said film. I would predict Cameron Price winning Best Actor, but I'm not so sure about that. Imagine if he did though... HA!

R184 Will the members of the Academy be voting?

R185 No, just Zach and his Helix sycophants.

Trent Olsen will win in the new and unfortunate Most Convincing Incest Video category.

Is he related to the twins, they pop up when Googling?

R188 Yeah, he's the stupid and poor one in the family.

Daniel Hausser seems "special."

I assumed he was a mixed Latin American trying to whitefish.

R191 he claims to be mostly German and Swedish.

r191 why whitefish or pass? I thought Latinos are #2 most desirable after white?

R190 he said in one video that he called his friends because he didn't know how to call the police

What...the actual fuck.

R195 I'm not sure what's worse... Daniel milking this for his own infamy or Zach giving this as much attention as he has already. Let alone what Trent is accused of.

This could just be the joint acting acting project that Miles Heizer and Connor Jessup have be looking for! Perhaps it could be part of the Ryan Murphy Feud series?

So visiting people in prison is basically Chaturbate with phones and no tokens?

r198, pretty much.

So now that Blake has another Strr8UpGayPorn award, is it Oscar time?

Can someone make Blake's phony ass go away?

Bitch! I thought you was an actor now

I wonder if he's even had the opportunity to get on the casting couch yet.

He's no Traci Lords...despite the awful hair

Will Helix ever do a bisexual scene?

Who wants to see a tiny twink pounding a woman?

I do!

The hug that Keith gave Joey on stage when they were accepting the Best Film trophy was cringe-worthy to say the least. Lots of shade being thrown around - of course Joey had to thank fag hag Taylor and Kyle thanks Cameron "for driving the limo", with ex-bf Max chiming in "we love you".

Blech.

I'm sure ⌛ could find him a role if he's willing to ▶️ 🛋️ r202.

R203 Ugh, he's awful as a blond. Sorry, Blake, plenty of better looking, better toned guys out there. The dick is not going to support you forever.

R209 95% of men look like shit as bottle blondes

I didn't realize how yellow Blake Mitchell's teeth are. Time for some Crest white strips buddy!

And Blake is again thirsty over Sean on Twitter...How embarrassing for his BF.

R212 Guess BF isn't satisfying him anymore.

Who wouldn’t be thirsty over Sean Ford?

Sorry R214 but Sean's teeth are horrible

R215 Have him face the other way.

Sean Ford has a beautiful face but his forehead is cro magnon.

What's he saying r212 I can't read his tweets he blocked me a long time ago lol

Sean Ford is a way of fucking a young Joseph Gordon-Levitt by proxy.

R212 Which tweets are you referring to? I see pics of Blake overwhelmed with emotion for winning the Oscar on his very first nomination... err, sorry... the Str8UpGay award for his scene with BelAmi and of course being Zach's favourite, but I don't see anything resembling him commenting, either positively or negatively on Sean Ford.

Zach is so transparent. Angel Rivera got fired from 2 studios but Zach Is trying to make it seem like he's some superstar.

Hey Zach, nobody gives a shit about Angel Rivera. Let it go man.

Avoid Sean Fords twitter feed if you want to preserve his porn sex appeal - he is approaching Colby Keller levels of obnoxious self-important performative woke leftism. He was interviewed by some middle aged fag in Interview magazine who drooled over him while hoping to flatter his way into his pants. Sean Ford apparently has been tasked as some avatar of "queer" sexual liberation that the will somehow free all of us if we just venerate him I guess. Of course, he was transcended being merely gay - that is too reductive and limiting and exclusive - he supposedly fucks everything now even the occasional "cishet woman" HAHAHAHA....

Sure, because there is nothing worse in the world than a liberal porn twink. *rollingeyes*

SF is the new BM.

Bowel Movement?

r221

I'm always suspicious of anyone who uses the term woke in the pejorative. The 1st thing I think is racist or at least extremely racially insensitive.

But anyway. Yes, Sean is insufferably pretentious and full of himself.

Sean if you're reading this you're just a porn whore/sugar baby whose rich father used to be the lawyer for Bill Clinton. Don't get me wrong. I love porn whores But baby please. Just because you were born on 3rd base that doesn't mean you hit a triple.

The only reason Sean Ford and Brad Chase both of whom grew up with plenty of money didn't get along is because they were on opposite sides of the political spectrum other than that they're very much alike. Both guys are totally self absorbed and basically slumming by doing porn and aren't afraid to let you know about it.

R225 It's a flag for me too, but there are certainly people who merit being called "woke" in a negative sense. Virtual signalers, etc, the kind of person who doesn't actually believe in whatever cause they espouse, but are just looking for attention.

Why would someone do porn who has rich, connected parents? Did they cut him off?

These people are beyond stupid if they gave up easy street to enter the dammed life of porn.

R226 Virtue signalers, rather

[quote] These people are beyond stupid if they gave up easy street to enter the dammed life of porn.

They rebel against the ones who use money to treat them like their property (obey and you get rewarded with money, don't obey and you are cut off).

R229 Have you seen the photo of the Helix team with their dear leader crouched in front? It's cringe-worthy. I'd rebel as well.

It's no different than a girl trying to escape abusive parents by getting married and the husband turns out to be abusive as well. Sometimes you don't have a clue yet how to make better choices.

Neither Sean's nor Brad's parents cut them off. Some parents are just very open minded I guess or at least they have an (I can't control my kids like, I don't like what they do but love them unconditionally thing going on)

Brad's father was grooming him for a career in the military believe it or not. Brad got into porn as a form of rebellion. He's actually very smart and even though he was a Sugar baby for rich guys also while he was doing porn he has a good well paying job now. He loves expensive clothes and Wine and food and shows them off on his Instagram. To bad he 'a racist jerk(my opinion based on his Trump love and his anti-immigrant tweets)

Sean Ford has at least some Hollywood connections. He used to hang out with the cast of 13 Reason's Why But he's so pretentious and self important. He actually tweeted this on the 29th of Dec ""Yes I sometimes hang out with rich people and yes there is a mutual understanding that someday soon I might have to put their head in the guillotine and we’re all cool with that"' He doesn't seem to understand that he would have to put his own head in that guillotine

But Sean and Brad aren't the only gay porn performers who come from money Ben Masters grew up rich, his father is a movie producer. His parents both know he does porn, his mother in fact seems to like the idea. She actually looked at the mocking video Joey Mills, Angel Rivera, and Cam Parks put out about the cheating scandal that sent her son to the hospital. She said it was the most fucked up thing she'd ever seen.LOL When Ben ended up in the hospital with his breakdown after he was cheated on Alot of fans contacted Ben's father to check on Ben and his father thanked the fans for their concern and assured them that he was being taken care of by his family. He did say something like that Ben needed to "get clean" and not party so much but he was talking about drugs and not porn

He actually doesn't look bad in this pic.

Lol now Blake posted a inta story hanging out with Sean's bf...

Who's Sean and Brad's dads?

I honestly believe Blake would dump his child-looking bride in a heartbeat if Sean gave him the green light.

R236 I agree. I also think he's hanging with Sean's bf, who is a photographer of some renown, for selfish reasons, not just because he may be a nice guy. With Blake/Lane, there is ALWAYS an ulterior motive with everything he says and dies.

Blake is the worst

Blake wants to fuck his way into Sean's family money. Imagine Sean's disgust when he catches Blake sucking his father's dick.

Truly fascinating stuff in R232's post, never knew about Ford's background. Explains his unearned arrogance I guess. Seems fairly likely he's a trust fund kid trying to pretend he's some kind of eat the rich progressive.

I also only recently realised that he and Ty Mitchell weren't being self-deprecating when they described themselves as intellectual pornstars. Ty seems to fancy himself a writer - about sex, of course - though he really isn't any good. Is there any gossip on him? He looked awful at that Str8UpGayPorn event.

Masters coming from money is a equally surprising given he's often seen hanging out with sugar daddies.

A lot of Helix porn models move on to CockyBoys which is quite hipster bohemian. Sean Ford is a perfect fit for them.

Intellectual gay porn stars are nothing new. Colby Keller and Conner Habib, for example.

r241 Habib is the most obnoxious - even more so than Colby. I can't take anyone seriously as an intellectual if they believe in wiccan magick superstition and other occult nonsense, which Habib is constantly droning on about...

[QUOTE]CockyBoys which is quite hipster bohemian

They've ruined quite a few scenes with their attempt to make "art" rather than just make porn. Mind you, they have Austin Wolf working for them, so they clearly don't care about quality.

I always assumed that Cockyboys was the center of escorting for NY models.

Ugh, Cockyboys has too much inky trash like Jake Bass and Pierre Fitch. Send in the cart of sanitizer and penicillin, please.

Helix and cockyboys are so over.

Whatever happened to Jake bass? I haven't heard that name in so long..

R247 Jake Bass is retired. He's now living off money he gets from photoshoots and modelling gigs.

[Quote] He's now living off money he gets from photoshoots and modelling gigs

99% of the time... 95% of the time.

R247 Translation: sucking old guy's cocks.

[Quote] I always assumed that Cockyboys was the center of escorting for NY models.

I assume the same for BelAmi in Central/Eastern Europe.

R251 Sir Elton would likely agree.

So Kyle Ross "retires" from performing to focus on his role in Helix management. And one can guess to focus on his relationship with Chance Brown. I predict Kyle will be named Helix COO by the end of February.

Good on Cameron Parks for calling out Helix, despite Max trying to no avail to get him off the stage.

R253 Kyle will age weirdly I think. He'll go from creepy mannequin boy to ... something.

R254 Judging by his Instagram, that process has been underway for a while. Also, he's a gun nut?

R255 Yikes, it's like a sneak preview of the next deranged campus shooter.

R256 I've met Kyle a few times (before his Kyle 2.0 transformation) and he was very nice and sweet, very down-to-earth, and very approachable. Overall, a nice guy.

To be fair, I was confusing Kyle Ross and Kyler Moss. Kyle is still a little creepy, but he looks like the wholesome boy next door compared to Kyler - yikes.

I've had my issues with helix studios. Plenty of them but Cameron Park's, angel Rivera, and Joey Mills are really horrible people they don't deserve your sympathy.

Cameron Park's had sexual assault charges filed against him with the police he was known to sexually harass models. One of the problems I had with Helix is that they didn't fire him earlier. He also allegedly physically abused his ex Bryce.

Btw, Kyle is from Texas, I'm sure he's always been a gun nut. Kyle's father scenes very open minded and loving of his sons but can you imagine having 3 sons and not one of them is heterosexual. Two gays and a bi. Kyle's twin Kriss is bi and used to have a boyfriend.

p.s. Kyler Moss is also from Texas. Texas, Utah and Florida Probably produce about 90% of all the Twink models. ha!

So was Helix winning all these porn awards a vindication that the models who left or were fired were right or a fuck you to the studio that they lost their stars?

[QUOTE]can you imagine having 3 sons and not one of them is heterosexual

You're on a gay site, discussing gay porn, and this is your take? Are you one of those women obsessed with Helix? If not, maybe take a break from the porn and go see a therapist to deal with that self-hatred.

It really sucks that gun-nut republicans have so completely trashed the reputation of guns among the left. Think about it--guns are an incredible feat of human engineering and are actually really cool to play around with (SAFELY!) but a lot of the left hates them on principle and that's a shame. Yes, it's true that gun manufacturers are immoral, soulless corporations and popular "gun culture" is not something I would be a part of, but you can and should at least try shooting once in your life (SAFELY, in a range or with a trusted responsible friend) because shooting guns is honestly one of the MOST human things that we have.

I know this will probably be an unpopular opinion, but there it is nonetheless. I certainly won't fault anyone for liking guns, unless and until they start to embrace the crazy, enabling gun-nut culture--then they are DONE!

My thing with guns is - owning one dramatically increases the risk of “Successful” suicide and domestic homicide. Why not find another “fun” thing to do - why is playing with guns so important that it’s worth putting peoples lives at risk. Because that is what having a gun does - it doesn’t protect you, it puts you and your household at risk.

Hey r261 take a chill pill. Is their something wrong with your reading skills? I didn't say anything negative about the Ross brothers being LGBT

The reason you know his sons aren't straight is because I gave you the information. Of course I'm not against gay people. I"m a gay myself. The fact that you read that from my post says more about you than it does me. I'm quite happy that 3 brothers are all gay or bi as that's pretty rare and the father seems very supportive which is great. So I guess I'm to infer from your post that you hate all women huh?

Oh no that would be a ridiculous jump to conclusions on my part just like you were totally wrong about what I was saying.

When the universe gives you three kids who are LGBTQ I think the universe tells you to stop being a homophobic bigot.

Joke aside, I do believe that parents can learn from their kids as much as kids can learn from their parents. A gay kid can expose (straight) parents to a whole new world they never knew existed.

[QUOTE] I"m [bold]a gay[/bold] myself.

Frau it is then.

R260 I think it's a fuck you from the studio to the former models and to fag hag Taylor Saracen... let's see what comes next after Vegas Nights. Time will tell.

R260 not really. Str8Up Gay Porn is to Helix was Fox News is to Dump.

R268 oh no, if that analogy is on the SATs I’m fucked!

Just like your mother r266

I usually really like Ashtin, but in the most recent scene he looks like he's developing a little bit of a belly and has lost his definition. Also covered in razor burn, and his scene partner is covered in spots. That interview with Cameron Parks revealed Helix has a company stylist - do they not also have someone to do make up to cover up stuff like that? Seems like the latter should be more important - though I guess a stylist gets freebies from stores desperate enough.

He is so hot but so extra. You've been dating like 10 days, bitch.

How old are these kids? 20, 26? I have no idea.

Ashton and Ashtin Bates sure date a lot of guys in a calendar year. lol

I love Ashton Summers, but I believe it was in an interview with Cameron Parks where he claims that Ashton Summers dates Helix guys who can help him to raise his social media profile.

I really wish people would stop taking the word of Cameron Parks like its gospel. If anything he was one of the most problematic models in the history of helix studios and that's saying something.

When are porn studios going to do a Battle of the Network Stars kind of competition where they face off with another studio and the losers get fucked? I want to see the Treasure Island Media guys take on Helix and destroy those twinks on and off field.

Theo is ugly.

r277 I want a big brother gay porn edition.

[QUOTE]If anything he was one of the most problematic models in the history of helix studios

How so? I've heard vague references to stuff like this, but no detail

R276 Whatever you may think of Cameron, whatever he did to the Helix models when he was working at the studio, you should take what he says about what happened seriously. Is he an innocent bystander? Of course not. But he worked very close with Keith and knows a lot about what goes on BTS.

Cameron is an unreliable narrator.

Ashton's new bf is ugly. Why does he only date hideous guys? He himself is gorgeous. It makes no sense.

He who is free of sin shall throw the first dildo.

Speaking of Ashton, don’t piss him off, he’s got feelings and he’s violent.

Was he working in a French restaurant at the time?

r281 Cameron posted a YouTube video with Joey Mills, Angel Rivera that was a giant lie about the whole cheating scandal against Ben Masters.

He's not the most trustworthy person. Not to say that Helix isn't a problematic company. Clearly they are but so are most.

Ashton is a potential felon? Hahahahaha ha!

Soooo...no detail on why Cameron is such an awful person then?

Read through the thread r289

R290 I have, and all there is are vague references to him sexually assaulting or harassing models with no detail as to what that actually means. What exactly did he do?

Theo is ugly. Ranking Ashtons boyfriends in the last year Calle Austin Travis Theo Chris.

Osmar court date for the assault is 3-27-20. Oddly enough while looking it up I saw he also is getting sued and evicted from his apartment over $1800? How does he travel and afford all this but can’t pay rent? And Ashton totally dates other porn actors for followers and only fans content. He has the same MO with each guy where he comes on super strong, posts them everywhere. Takes them on trips then all a sudden the relationship ends. Travis lasted two months, Chris 1, Austin two, Theo ( so far less than a month) and Calle 10 months. I think that lasted longer cause Ashton had left porn during that time.

Calle was gorgeous! Kinda sad they didn’t work out. Then Ashton went from Calle to five days later having Travis Stevens in his bed. He’s bern downgrading ever since

Calle is about average.

Yep r294 Can you Imagine going on vacation and then seeing snapchats and Twitter pics of your boyfriend bringing someone else into your home and into your Bed 😒

And now Ashton is bringing lil troll Theo to Calles country Sweden where they vacationed and “ fell in love” a year ago ish. Ashton is soooo extra. I give his new boyfriend less than 3 months.

Calles stunning. His Instagram is whew!!! Def the hottest guy Ashtons been with. But Calle dates guys hotter than Ashton so.. I think he’s just fine

Ashton hates Angel Rivera but they are both just a like. Both cheat and then post their cheating on social media to rub their ex's noses in it.

I miss Miss Murmurs. She was always good for an acid bath for the cam boys.

Who is Calle dating? He’s hot.

Angel Rivera is a drugged out loser and that's why he hates Ashton.

R296 that's exactly what happened to Casey Tanner lol

Really r302

Wow I don't remember that. All I remember is Casey claiming that some models told him that Blake was cheating on him on set with Sean Ford. What happened?

Angel and Ashton are drugged out losers. Ashton escorts but hides it. Say what you want but even as much as Joey and angel probably cheat on each other, at least they made it almost two years. What’s Ashtons longest relationship, 4 months?

Calle is dating this black English model. He seems to have decided to not post his relationship publicly Like he did with Ashton ( smart) but the boyfriend posts him a lot. Big upgrade from Ashton.

Aww! Yay! I always like Calle. I rooted for him and Ashton to work out, and loved that they travelled everywhere and moved in together, and Calle got him signed to a modeling agency. As soon as I saw Ashton was back to porn I knew the relationship would end.

Calle was too mature for him in many ways and it showed.

I wonder if Blake has learned yet that LA is much more interested in his mouth and ass than his cock.

R307 either way, they don't give two shits about his "acting dreams". Hell, Singer only ever got his whores set visits or extra work.

R305 what’s the boyfriend’s Instagram?

Right! None of these porn guys who hooked up with famous people ever got real In front of the camera work in movies or TV

So, please show the links about Ashton Summers’ court case and his being evicted.

Here’s the link to the assault

Eviction

To view it you may have to re- enter the name. The assault is under Osmar Riverasanjurjo the eviction under Osmar Sanjurjo

Ashtons mugshot

Sorry- Ashtons mugshot

Sorry, bit of off topic. Both Kurt Wild and Aspen are charged with child molestation. What a Valentine's Day. Yikes!

Aspen had tried to set up a GoFundMe to pay for his lawyers without revealing what he was charged with - and now it's clear why.

And Wild's is for the rape of a ten year old girl. Jesus.

Aspen too ??? Link please.

I thought Wild was arrested for assault, not rape. Yikes.

Aspen was arrested for child molestation. His name is Zachary Robert Santagelo.

Kurt Wild (real name Calvin Cornelius) raped a ten year old girl over many years.

Geezus what is with these sick fucks?

These guys get heavily reported by Zach Sire on Str8UpGayPorn, but felony battery by Ashton Summers gets a pass. Basically Zach endorses violence only of children aren’t involved.

R324 It's not a bad line to draw, if you're going to draw one. People who abuse children deserve a special place in hell.

Personally I like Ashton very much. Zach should've done one single post about it and then moved on to greater and more newsworthy things like Kurt Wild and Aspen and bury Ashton's news in the process. Like, after breaking the new on Kurt and Aspen being accused of pedophile actions (sexual assault of girls younger than 11 years) who cares about Ashton getting into a fight with another guy or being evicted?

I use to like Ashton, but after following him on his socials I realized how much he lies over the weirdest shit. And you see how boyfriend after boyfriend, he does the same thing, they all end up the same. He’s hot, but also can’t suck dick at all. I’ve never seen it go in his mouth more than an inch, and his ass rating skills are always so forced. But otherwise as far as actual ducking goes, he’s talented. But man, the ego and anger on him. I think the other thing is how materialistic he comes off. I wonder how long he will be in porn. I remember him saying he wanted to be a architect after college but couldn’t find work. Then his fashion modeling career basically nosedived after his last big relationship ended, and he went right back to porn.

R327 So he rates guys asses on a scale from 1 to 10, but he’s always problematic and what, gives them higher than he should?

😂😂 “ass eating”

I’m so excited at the fact that a sociopathic and narcissistic asshole like Ashton Summers could get prison time for felony assault! I wish I could go to his court date so I could point and laugh!

The porn star threads here on DL are disturbing yet oddly intriguing. Many of these people seem fucked up beyond repair.

When it comes to the G4P types, I wonder if some of them rape/molest little girls to prove to themselves that despite taking it up the ass, they're still 'real men'. Puke.

Could Joey Mills just die?

r332 No, and stop asking.

[quote]The porn star threads here on DL are disturbing yet oddly intriguing.

It's the love hate thing that fascinates me. They love these people, yet despise them and their life choices all at the same time. It's a weird dynamic.

r334 Not surprising - schadenfreude is a hell of a drug.

No one 'loves' them, they're just fun to gossip about.

Wow Ashton is no longer with Helix? Did his exclusive end? I’m suprised they would let him go.

Also Josh Brady is done with Helix, too! Damn I liked him

R337 R338 Where did you read these? Twitter?

The way things have gone at Helix since January 2019, if someone can sign these former models, they can start a pretty good studio. Imagine Blake Mitchell, Joey Mills, Cameron Parks, Josh Brady, Ashton Summers, Tyler Hill (who didn't officially quit or get fired), Logan Cross (who left prior to 2019), Sean Ford (who left prior to 2019), Luke Wilder and who knows who else all together at a rival studio? May sound impossible but just imagine if it was to happen...

Helix has hired a couple of new models lately but none of them are that great looking. Gone are the days when they would bring in really great looking twinks.

But in fairness Sean Cody and Corbin Fisher's model rosters have gone down in quality tremendously as well. Studios need to start paying real money again or this is all you're going to get from studio porn, average looking models that no one really wants to pay to see.

I think the owners are just tired of the drama and maybe even getting called out for their "God given" right to "sample the goods". That and their customers being called stupid by paying for content that you can get free through torrenting.

One day people will complain about how boring amateur stuff is and become outraged that nobody produces good quality stuff anymore ... for free.

I think the owners are just tired of the drama and maybe even getting called out for their "God given" right to "sample the goods". That and their customers being called stupid by paying for content that you can get free through torrenting.

One day people will complain about how boring amateur stuff is and become outraged that nobody produces good quality stuff anymore ... for free.

In their New Year's OnlyFans video, Angel literally loses a lacrosse ball inside Joey Mills's ass. It's quite fucking funny, especially the way Angel is panicking, whilst Joey seems used to things being lost up there.

Annoyingly, it seems you can't post links to PornHub on here; if you search for 'Joey Mills and Angel Rivera 1-1-20' on PornHub you'll find it.

r341 all the hot models have learned they can make a lot more money through OnlyFans and similar sites.

I really do NOT understand how those sites can charge 40% and no one competes with them at a lower rate.

I really wonder how some of these studios survive. There's one niche site that has below 10k followers on twitter and gets between 0 - 10 likes per tweet, and barely any retweets. They can hardly make enough money to pay their performers the bus ticket to the set, let alone decent fees.

I think the only people who still pay for studio porn are those who are obsessed with a certain performer and want all his full-length videos in HD quality, plus the photos from the shoot. That was my motivation for subscribing to a studio site (yes, I know I'm pathetic and DL is the only place I'd ever admit to this). Most of my favorite's videos where available for free somewhere, but not in great quality, and of some videos I just couldn't find full-length versions. And with the shorter free versions, I feel like they always cut out the good stuff - the foreplay, the kissing, full body shots and face shots. So I subscribed to this site for 1 month, downloaded all of my favorite's videos and photos + some other stuff I liked, and then cancelled my subscription (the guy is retired now, so where won't be any new updates featuring him).

Most of the people who pay for porn likely aren't on social media. If they don't know how to find free porn, they definitely don't know how to tweet.

r347 or they just have enough money where it's no big deal to buy a subscription and get easier access and less risk of malware. The "who pays for porn?" people are almost always poor.

Looks like I hit a nerve. You talking about getting malware by looking for porn really does nothing but support my post that those who pay for porn tend to be technically illiterate.

But of course, we all know rich people just love spending money. They're never tight-fisted bastards always looking for a deal or a freebie. Nope, that never happens.

I don't pay for porn and I know how to protect my computer.

Most of the guys with OnlyFans and the like are probably making very little money---it seems typical for them to stop adding conetent after a couple months or else it's all 30 second cum shots.

I know a porn model who told me he makes $600/month via JFF, and he could probably make 20-30% more with OnlyFans. He's not the biggest name (probably middle of the road successful) so one has to assume the larger names (Gabriel Cross, Alam Wernick, Austin Wolf, etc) make much more than that. It's a great additional revenue source and the models control the content, not the studios. It's just a matter of how much content you put up, the quality of the content and the regularity of your updates.

If Helix were smart, they would have ditched the cams stuff and instead built their own JFF/OF network where they could market their models, give the models a big cut of the profits (thus making the models much happier) and keep everything in house.

Instead, the owner decided to go into the publishing business (how did that work out for ya!) and then when that went to shit, went into the cam business. I guess that's doing ok? They missed the boat on this one.

And just my opinion, but I agree with a few of the others who have posted the newer models do not come anywhere near the ones who have left. Yeah, everyone's replaceable, but think about this... if it weren't for 8Teenboy, how successful would Helix be at the moment? My take is that 8Teenboy is the one carrying Helix these days.

r349 I'm not talking about "rich people". They're too busy having sex with rentboys to worry about online porn.

I'm talking about people for whom spending some money on quality porn isn't a big deal and easier to do than trolling for lower quality porn on random websites.

It's the same economic reality for products like iTunes when it came out - the RIAA protested against it and tried to stop it. It's easier to spend the $2 and get a song you like in a high quality digital version than it is to hunt for it on the internet or rip it from a video on Youtube.

I was simply pointing out your worldview is clearly not someone who doesn't worry about money.

Literally every post you make is just proving my point, R353. Lower quality porn? It's literally the same stuff. The exact same videos, 1080, even 4k sometimes. And if you think the only way to get a song is ripping it from YouTube - again, just proving my point about tech illiteracy.

And you can feel free to keep trying to take shots at me with your assumptions about my finances. It doesn't bother me. However, if you're going to attempt to quote me, don't make stuff up - I never once used the word "eldergays", and actually never even mentioned age. I mentioned tech illiteracy and that's it.

As a matter of fact r354 One of the sites I go to to download porn for free (gaybb.me) just posted the 4K version of Nakedswords scene its new conversion therapy themed epic.

I do have to admit that I don't know where to get the music you mentioned for free other than Youtube. Can you recommend a site?

r354 you are clearly a moron if you think your point is in any way valid or disproves anything whatsoever I've said. If you had a brain you'd realize I actually haven't disagreed with your strawman arguments/defending against points I haven't made (for example I'm pretty sure I didn't say Youtube was the ONLY place to rip music from, but I guess pretending I did is safer because you can't argue the real point) - I'm disagreeing with the original argument you made about "no one paying for porn". But keep trying to appear knowledgeable about things! You are just showing your "intelligence" and "wisdom".

And continue attacking eldergays! It's so original and fresh! Anything you want to say about Boomers while you're at it?

[QUOTE]I'm disagreeing with the original argument you made about "no one paying for porn"

Give the post number where I made that quote. While we're at it, give the post number where I even mentioned age.

It's hilarious you accuse me of strawman arguments when all you've done so far is make up stuff you claim I said. The fact you needed to, from your first reply to me, resort to personal insults rather than arguing the actual argument just says it all about.

I hope Ashton Summers gets some prison time for his felony assault 😍😍😍

They must be whoring their stable on the side - how else to keep making money?

I’m not particularly cheap but I would never pay for music one single at a time.

I would never pay 2 dollars for a 20oz Pepsi either so maybe I am cheap.

Never mind, as you were.

If I want a song, I would pay 2 dollars to just be able to quickly and easily get it, and to not have to deal with anything else.

God, Daniel Hausser is ugly as fuck.

R362 Agreed, can't understand how he gets so much work. Guess he's cheap. Hoping his career is over after he showed the world how pathetically desperate he is for attention when his boyfriend got arrested for being a pedo.

His site consists of him blowing and getting fucked by randos in public bathrooms and hotel rooms.

Yeah it's annoying as he always pops up on PornHub. The worst part is he seems to feel the need to talk in every one of his videos and he has the most annoying voice.

Daniel changed his rentmen ad and now claims to be bisexual but he wasn't very impressive in those whynotbi videos...Also, the type of men who hire twink escorts aren't looking for the DL/pseudo masc types - he needs better market research!

He's probably hoping those bizarre Helix fangirls will pay money to spend time with him

Helix rejected Daniel as a model

R368 The entire industry should reject Daniel. He's poison and should be thrown out with the trash.

What is his nationality?

Mexican

Really, I was thinking some fareaching Eastern European country with a “-stan.”

Saw that Theo Brady moved to Florida to live with Ashton Summers after dating less than 2 months. Are they the next gay porn power couple?

R373 Maybe Kegan Keller can move in with them and become the hot trouple?

Daniel Hausser was apparently born in California and is of mostly German and Swedish ancestry, with a bit of Catalan, Danish, French, and English thrown in. I would've thought he has some Russian or Finnish in him as well. He looks like a really strange ethnic mix.

R375 The ultimate mutt, makes sense, he’s quite the dog.

He is too peculiar looking for Helix, they only cast conventionally handsome guys

Who cares if Theo moved in with Trashton. It’ll last another week, or Ashton will be arrested for felony assault again.

Ashton's hole probably opens up when he thinks about all the prison cock he's going to be taking.

He’d make it a 20 second only fans clip

Daniel is very unattractive and weird looking I've yet to understand his appeal.

I think the appeal is he’s a slut

This boy is delusional.

Did Kyle Ross and his rocker daddy break up?

R383 Yes, Lane/Blake is quite delusional. When I first saw the tweet, I thought RDJ had actually written something to him. Instead, Mr. Rogers/Mr. Mitchell includes RDJ in his response. And the reason is why exactly...?

R384 What makes you ask that?

Jesse Starr got ugly. And Tommy Anders has aged terribly.

Robert Downey Jr. was handsome and still is. Lane/Blake has the face of a retard and couldn’t act his way out of a paper bag if he tried.

I'd love to see how these bitches are doing in their late 30's.

Trent Olsen’s Rent.men ad is currently up in the Las Vegas section. Is he out and trying to earn money for a lawyer?

r389 This is the one who abused his brother, right? I like how he describes himself as "verse bisexual." SURE, if those twinky rainbow pictures don't say bisexual, what does? Is there some marketing consideration behind branding yourself as bisexual when you're gayer than a rainbow?

Regardless, abusing minors (and your own brother) is disgusting and I hope he dearly pays for the therapy his brother will need to recover from this predator.

r386 Drugs + not wearing sunscreen = down the slope. Post pictures if they're public.

r383 I wish the best for him and hope he succeeds. When he DOESN'T succeed, I hope the results are dramatic!

Did anyone see on Ricky Romans fb that he just had a baby??

r392 He was always very vocal about being straight and gay for pay only so I am not surprised.

r392 He was always very vocal about being straight and gay for pay only so I am not surprised.

r394 Oops - that was Roman Todd I was thinking of...link to Ricky's fb post? Was it under his real name or a porn account?

Under his real name, I don’t Have the link

The "intellectual" Sean Ford is now working for Men.com, in their Tom of Finland thing. Can't wait to see his attempt to justify working for those gay-hating douches

Why do these young and barely employed idiots want to breed so badly?

I guess he wants to make up for the miscarriage

r399 I know it is bad form but that miscarriage saved him 18+ years child support and baby mama drama - I am likewise baffled at how nonchalant these young hereosexuals are about pregnancy (even without birth control there is the morning after pill and (still) in some states (for now) first trimester abortion). Unless you have guaranteed family wealth, having a child prior to finishing college/grad/law school and getting a stable job, is a one way ticket to permanently joining the working poor - certainly for the mother and with such strict child support enforcement the dad as well.

Does Blake/Lane think some sugar daddy is going to pay for surrogacy or adoption as he has claimed he intends to pursue with a same sex partner?

[quote]as he has claimed he intends to pursue with a same sex partner?

Forget about acting, Lane should go into comedy!

Not that anyone will care, but it looks like splitsville for Kyle Ross and Chase Brown. Kyle's Instagram has gone dark for the past while, and his twitter feed is all about referring people to his Helix scenes. Guess they just couldn't make a go of it, even though Kyle retired from porn to become Keith's right-hand man. Or maybe that was why they broke up...

R400 Lane's dick is going to get awfully sore from all the old guy attention he's going to have to pony up for that kind of sugar, never mind his ass. Sorry Lane, daddy is going to want access to all your holes.

Kyle Ross is not know for being faithful. He doesn't really do monogamy. I have no idea if he cheated or not but he and Max Carter were in an open relationship for 7 years. When they broke up Max tweeted and then deleted that Kyle will have sex with anyone who says "hi" to him.

I don't know if it was Instagram or twitter but after they both stopped following each other on social media Chase Brown posted "thank you, Next!"

Looks like Joey and angel MIGHT be on the outs too. Joey is fairly quiet about it, angel is being a whiny bitch. They still follow each other on social media but my guess is angel is days away from bleaching his hair ( gay crises mode)

R404 That may be true, but we've seen a change in Kyle this past year/year and a half. He's gotten rid of that blond twink cut, has gone to the gym and started to bulk up (as much as Kyle can bulk up), has retired from performing, is taking on more and more responsibility with Helix, and I think it's fair to say Chase was his first serious/non-industry boyfriend. Obviously Chase knew who Kyle was when they met, and it didn't bother him.

Maybe Kyle outgrew Chase? Total guess on my part. And yes, maybe Kyle cheated on him (as guys tend to do). Not sure if we'll really know.

r405

I despise both angel and Joey but I don't think they're ever going to actually break up, who would want them anyway?

This is like the 10th time angel has done his whiny bjtch routine over Joey treating him bad. Can you imagine the nerve of a guy who treated his boyfriend Ben Masters so horribly at the behest of Joey Mills actually whining about the way he3s being treated by that same guy? Karma bitch. Angel is Joeys bitch slave and that's a fact. He would crumble and die without Joey. Pathetic

I remember when Helix was at its peak in 2013/2014 and Evan Parker and Blake Mitchell were basically the two main twinks. While Evan looked good in his first five scenes, I never got the appeal of Blake.

Angel is an asshole. I’m glad Joey treats him worse that dirt.

I’m somewhat fascinated with porn star relationships. On one hand I love the content. On the other you know your gonna see drama eventually and I love messy break ups. Like as soon as their is a new porn couple I imagine his king it’s gonna mast and who’s gonna dump who. Just me? Lol

Are Landon Vega and Tyler hill still together? Are Leo frost and even Parker still a thing? Who is max carter sucking blood from these days. Why is josh Brady forever single? ( Alex Riley too) Why do some porn guys always have a boyfriend ( Ashtin bates, lane Rogers, Ashton summers)

Ashton summers has terrible tastes in boyfriends. He’s hot, why are his boyfriends so.. meh?

Ashton summers has terrible tastes in boyfriends. He’s hot, why are his boyfriends so.. meh?

Helix Studios is the Real Housewives of gay porn. But instead of Bravo you see it all unfold on social media.

R412 Can't stand to be with someone hotter than he is - wants the focus entirely on him

Josh Brady got fat.

I’d smash chubby josh Brady and day

I could 💯 see Ashton wanting to be the hot one, in control, demanding and needy. He seems like the type that wants your attention 24/7 but once he’s bored or once his partner has expectations ( or boundaries) he’s OUT. Still Travis and Theo? Blerg. He loves his basic white trash bottoms ( Joey mills)

R415 Pics? Or is he in a new scene?

Ashtin Bates has had like 5 boyfriends since he's been with Helix. He's cut a large trench though the 8teenboy models. Riley Finch, Trevor Harris , Jacob Hansen. Who does he think he is Luke Wilder? LOL He's already broken up with his new twinky blond boyfriend Aaron Roberts,

In the old days of Helix Evan Parker would fuck all the newbies and my first thought was why? He's not even that cute.

R420 Evan had the same role that Dano Sulik had once upon a time at BelAmi - he'd break in all the newbies. I think Keith had a soft spot for Evan, same as he has for Kyle and Max. George was known to have the same feelings for early guys like Dano.

R421 There was not enough dick and ass in the world for Dano. Even Duroy was stunned by his appetites.

Usually you pick a guy who can ease newbies into the work and not someone who scares them away.

R423 Dano's cock was not very large, for one thing.

Dano was a stud. He fucked like a stud. He acted like a stud. He was pure sex. I could watch him fuck 24/7.

I wonder if Dano ever got married and had kids, like some of the other "original" BA-ers. I've tried looking for a recent photo of him, but have come across nothing. And he's one of the rare BA models whose real name was never published.

I actually like Evan. He was a genuine top unlike most of the Helix twinks at the time and he looked like someone most of the newbies would have had a crush on in high school. He was the perfect guy it to be the face of Helix for as long as he was.

I was just told that Angel Rivera Is moving to Miami and that Joey Mills has been staying at his parents place. Could it finally be over for those two?

These porn relationship never last

Angel and Joey have been together two years. That's longer than I though they would last. Besides I'm not totally convinced it's over. It's all about what Joey wants. If he wants Angel to stay Angel will stay.

Joey got hit by the ugly stick. Does he have a touch of down’s?

Joey and angel break up every six months or so. I’m betting Lane and Chad are next. Ashtons due to fuck things up with Theo. I’m suprised Ben Masters is still with his bf.. this bf seems to actually really like him

I'm happy for Ben. for the first time he actually seems to have a bf who likes him. Well his Italian twink bf Ivan like him but after Ivan went back to Italy something must have happened because he stopped following both of Ben's Instagram accounts but he does now follow Joey Mills interestingly enough.

Ivan still follows Ben’s private Instagram. Still likes his posts too. Ivan even follows Ryan, Ben’s current boyfriend. Ivan and Ben always new they’ll end once Ivan goes back to Italy. There’s no drama there.

Good, I'm glad the are still friends r434

Kyle Ross confirms he and his bf broke up

I wonder how long the various studios can last without recording new stuff

R436 And he misses him too.

How do you know he misses him r438

I remember when Kyle and Max broke up Max tweeted it that Kyle will have sex with anyone who says Hi to him

R439 Kyle tweeted that he misses his ex-boyfriend...

Kyle: I’m really gonna miss him.

He also tweeted that... "We were monogamous til the end and that’s probably why it hurts so bad." - Kyle Ross

Interesting.

This makes you sound like Chase dumped him

R441 Kyle tweeted that "I broke up with my boyfriend" so we can assume it was Kyle's decision. We'll never know for sure, but I'm willing to give Kyle the benefit of the doubt when he says that he misses Chase and that they were monogamous till the end.

Then why break up with him. Kyle did the samecthimg when he broke up with Max Carter soon after Max proposed to him. He whinned about how much he regretted ending that relationship.

I'm sensing a pattern

R443 DM Kyle via Twitter and ask him.

Why would I do that r444 He's not going to tell the world why they broke up but he doesn't mind going public with the breakup.

Honestly the way these guys invite social media followers into their relationships, I get why they announce their break up. So over time fans don’t tag them, etc. suprised joey hasn’t announced he dumped angel, but maybe he just didn’t want to be quarantined with him

Are Joey and Angel really done?

Joey’s face is done. He is looking uglier these days.

Is Joey still staying at his parents house?

What fresh hell is this and why didn’t any of you bitches share this with us earlier?

R450 So the lesson here is that these guys are all thoroughly useless outside of fucking.

I think it's funny that they are promoting Riley Finch all over that film and he's already left Helix for Cockyboys

R450 It would have been more interesting if they showed life at the Helix mansion, what goes into prepping for a scene, and all the BTS stuff, and then get into the sex. That to me is "Inside Helix". What they produced... meh.

What happened with Joey and Angel?!?!? If those two can't make it, is there any hope for the rest of us?

Uh , they are 20 something gay porn stars. They will have many many relationships in their lives. It was never gonna last, very very few porn couples make it. Sorry to let you down.

Prince Blake is in a Twitter war

LOL

Lane is tragic

It's funny that Oliver Dean is a racist because his father was an NCAA basketball coach. Now I'm wondering about his father. When you know someone's real name you can find out a lot about their history.

What's the war about? What "values" is the Dean guy talking about?

Looks like Dean is a racist. A racist gay Republican gay porn performer. I know right. Shocking 🙄

Where are the racist tweets? The main ones on his page are porn retweets.

He said something about Africans and Arabs being terrorists and cutting off heads

But even when Blake is in the right, it has to go back to how great he is. And honey, renting an apt in Hollywood isn’t that impressive

r464 And why would anyone think he has money? Porn really doesn't pay that much unless he wants to fess up to hooking as his side hustle - even then, I doubt he was able to save much if any money. He has always been delusional...

Damn - I liked Oliver Dean (he is one of the few who is out and upfront about being gay at the BSB site) but he comes across as a not very bright Trump fellow traveler :(

I'm so sick and tired of all of these right wing gay porn performers supporting a party that absolutely hates them.

It tell you all you need to know that the most important thing to these people is their precious precious racism. To people like Oliver Dean and Brad Chase and Xavier Ryan, Jake Porter, Jacob Dixon and on and on. It's all about race. As long as long as the republican party and trump hate the same people they hate they will accept there own rights as gay people being taken away.

At the end of the day they're all white supremacists and that's what it's all about.

Just pay them and fuck them, that's all their good for.

So either Blake is making a lot of money on his OnlyFans, he has one or more sugar daddies, or he's a straight-up whore. I wonder which or what combination it is.

I almost wish I could base a soap opera off this after reading very few posts here. I’m tempted to pitch hbo.

r470 I think Netflix's Tiger King docu created a demand in documentaries where the audience discusses who comes off worst after watching it. And for some gay porn is still a very sordid business (so it's easy for them to judge the players for being part of that porn business).

r470 I think Netflix's Tiger King docu created a demand in documentaries where the audience discusses who comes off worst after watching it. And for some gay porn is still a very sordid business (so it's easy for them to judge the players for being part of that porn business).

Almost any reality show is full of unlikable people--this was just a longer version of that.

R473 Of course they are. The producers of reality tv want dissension and conflict. People who are rational and get along make for poor ratings. Don't forget to include a gay guy, an angry minority, a virgin from a small town, a feminist and/or lesbian, and something approximating an evangelical or at least a vocal homophobe. Make the cast attractive on whole, say an LA 5 or 6, with at least one model-pretty guy and girl.

Drama lately? Kyle Ross and his bf break up Ashtin Bates dumped his bf because of porn Zack latoa is dating Kurt niles Josh Brady, Travis Stevens Ashton summers no longer with helix. Ashton is with men.com (he hasn’t announced it but he went with his bf to film and Ashton recently followed men in his personal Instagram Also Ashton and Theo seem rocky based on the passive aggressive stories Ashton keeps posting lately and hardly any posts of them together ( on insta) when bf it was everyday. Guess they are hitting that three month mark.

R475 Travis Stevens left as well? That's news to me, didn't hear that. I wonder if they are still filming, considering how close they all work/live together in Vegas.

Ashton is such a lesbian

Almost 3 months!

Same exact shit he did with Travis and Joey Mills. The man knows how to get followers. I can’t imagine him dating someone not in porn.

Ashton literally said the “ you fixed me/ saved me” to his last two boyfriends. He must need a lot of fixing.

Joey and angel are so done. Angel is posting how he’s living in NYC (Harlem) now. They finally unfollowed each other.

[quote]Ashtin Bates dumped his bf because of porn

Didn't they do a porn scene together?

Geez these twinks are wound up tight.

r482

They were fighting all over Twitter. It seems Ashtin was upset that Aaron Did scenes with other models other than him. Seems there's room for only one slut in that relationship.

LOL oh god you're kidding? What did he think would happen? Man, these twinks are a new level of dumb.

R481 About time. Everything Joey touches turns to shit. I'm surprised it took this long for them to split.

Angel is just as bad as Joey. They are both scum

Ashtin Bates is the last person to tell his boyfriend they can't do porn. For one thing. He does porn and for another. He introduced him to the porn life. Also Ashtin fucked several 8teenboy models.

What a dumb little bitch. He's meant to be some kind of MMA fighter right? I'd love to see him get his ass kicked.

I downloaded their latest orgy scene, which has some of this Inside Helix shit at the start. I hadn't seen any before - are they making their models look bad on purpose? They hide their flaws pretty well during the porn scenes, but those interview scenes were showing the bad skin, bad teeth, even bad hair right up front.

Half the models, (Travis Stevens, Ashton Summers, Riley Finch) aren't even at Helix studios anymore. Ashton is with MEN, Riley Finch just did as scene for Cockyboys and who knows what's going on with Travis.

Does anyone else find that since they moved from San Diego to Las Vegas, with a few exceptions, Helix's content has gotten dull? They've lost a ton of models (for a variety of reasons), and to me the current models aren't holding up to the ones who left in 2018 and 2019... Blake Mitchell, Tyler Hill, Joey Mills, Cameron Parks, Angel Rivera, Luke Wilder, Travis Stevens, Ashton Summers, Julian Bell, Shane Cook, Sean Ford, Josh Brady, Cole Claire, Ben Masters...

Oh oh, could it be that the supply of fresh and gullible twinks is running low? Or maybe they've all decided to try making a living as influencers instead of doing porn?

Or, more likely, OnlyFans

There's more money in being an influencer if you're cute enough. At least porn performers have a skill.

Helix is going though a rough patch right now with their talent. When was the last time they intruduced a star talent who was actually new to porn? It's been a couple of years. Ashton, Travis, Andy Taylor, even Tyler Sweet have all been around forever. I will say that models have always hopped between studios so this is nothing new. We all get tired of our jobs and want to go somewhere else eventually.

They need to hire some models who aren't White for a change. And No I'm not talking about Latin models who look about as white as Julius Caesar. I'm talking about actual Black and Asian and Latin models who look Latin. Hireing just four new models who aren't White would be a major boost to them. They need to expand their talent pool. And don't even get me started on the Aryan Nation that is 8teenboy. I'm sorry but there's no way Max Carter isn't racist.

r495, the problem is that Helix is understaffed in regard to their promotion team. They have all hands on deck to put out PR fires and no-one to create buzz for the new talent or new releases. And the cool shine of the Helix Studios brand has worn off.

In porn even porn studios have a limited shelf life. Just look at a classic one like Falcon Studios. Hence, internet porn studios like Sean Cody and Corbin Fisher are past their prime with porn consumers shifting more and more to amateur tube, for fans only, and tumblr-like platforms.

r495, the problem is that Helix is understaffed in regard to their promotion team. They have all hands on deck to put out PR fires and no-one to create buzz for the new talent or new releases. And the cool shine of the Helix Studios brand has worn off.

In porn even porn studios have a limited shelf life. Just look at a classic one like Falcon Studios. Hence, internet porn studios like Sean Cody and Corbin Fisher are past their prime with porn consumers shifting more and more to amateur tube, for fans only, and tumblr-like platforms.

They do seem to have a lot of turnover lately, more so than the past. They also have a bunch of newbies including at least one with videos that haven't been posted, which seems odd because there seems to be a short interval between production and posting with them. The truly twinky frankly seem kind of ugly, while the twunky look a lot alike.

Onyfans and Justforfans requires more effort than most of the guys seem invested in making to be a useful source of revenue----it seems as though a lot of guys (twink and otherwise) lose interest after a month and there are others who mostly post short solos.

In order for onlyfans the work you have to be dedicated just like you said and you have to be truly a slut on camera someone like an Adam Awbride or Tannor Reed, Max Konnor who has sex with dozens of different guys.

I'm not paying $10 a month to watch even someone I really like just do a bunch of solos. I also don't like bf porn because like most people I'm usually only attracted to one of the partners. Si yeah r498 as you say it takes dedication and work.

Okay, you don't like that but plenty do, and there are many twinks on OFs making thousands a month to prove it.

Depending on the settings they have, you can see how many followers they have and the ones w/o much content have very few. The idea that lots of people are making a lot of money with this seems pretty unlikely. There seems to a circuit of sorts of guys who do OnlyFans or JustforFans. They do each others videos, but it's a rather small group. These helix guys mostly seem pretty immature even for 20 year olds.

I think Helix missed the boat when the whole JFF/OF thing was first taking shape. They could have come up with their own version, kept it in-house, given their models a bigger cut than JFF/OF currently gives their performers, and made more revenue from it. Instead, it took them a long time to come up with "Guys Hangout" (who knows how successful that is, especially given the state of things today), and it's just not the same as when your own models can control the type of content they produce. Blake said it himself a while back... better for the models to be in control, but had this been under the Helix umbrella, I think both the models and the company could have enjoyed mutually success. You need to keep your models happy so they continue to perform for you. With the amount of models who have left (some by choice, some not), imagine how much better things would currently be at Helix had they gone down this road, together with their models.

When I first discovered Helix, it was all about family and how close everyone was, and how they were all friends, which made the content that much more enjoyable. I remember a few trips to San Diego where a group of models would head out to this cupcake place in Hillcrest, and then head over to Kyle and Max's place to hang out (they did this every Tuesday). It was their way of bonding and it translated well on screen.

I don't think any of them have a place they go to every Tuesday in Las Vegas (before the shutdown), and the lack of them hanging out (and hanging out at the Helix mansion isn't the same thing) has taken a toll on the quality of their content, and the type of models they are attracting these days.

[quote]you can see how many followers they have and the ones w/o much content have very few

Stunning business insight there, next you'll be telling us how shops that are closed during the lockdown aren't doing much business.

[quote]and the lack of them hanging out (and hanging out at the Helix mansion isn't the same thing) has taken a toll on the quality of their content, and the type of models they are attracting these days.

That's a reach, don't you think? I doubt models aren't going to sign on with them just because they can't all hang out. And actually given the constant drama that seems to be going on behind the camera, them not hanging out is probably a good thing.

R503 Not at all. It's been a part of their recruitment strategy. And yes I agree with you, considering the backstage drama, it is a good thing they don't hang out as they used too.

Who gets to keep the OnlyFans in the Joey/Angel breakup?

I'm surprised no one has posted about the new charges against Helix's "Trent Olsen", who raped his brother.

R506 WTF is wrong with this guy?

R506 At least they had the good sense to remove this model from their model pages, though unfortunately his scenes are still available.

R506 ruined his life and his brothers for $150.

And of course his boyfriend who livestreamed his arrest while sobbing his commentary. He called his friends over because he didn't know how to call the police.

Burn it all down.

R509 Yeah, he's done. He'll die in pirson.

[quote]And of course his boyfriend who livestreamed his arrest while sobbing his commentary. He called his friends over because he didn't know how to call the police.

But also found time to tweet out a promo for his latest incest themed porn scene.

And then later livestreamed his visit to the prison.

BF's Twitter is gone.

R512 it's right here. And still has an incest themed scene as his pinned tweet. Cute.

R513 That's the same tweet he retweeted literally in the middle of all of this stuff going on

R509 -R514 : sometimes I think I’m fucked in the head and then you hear about the truly twisted.

I miss the old days when you'd just occasionally have a porn star undergoing an investigation for blackmail or murder.

R513 And there was exactly one comment to it that even tried to make the point that perhaps it was a bad time to be talking about incestuous sex. Of course, the spoiled little thirstmonster doesn't care about that.

Is Like Wilder still around ? Can someone link his latest vid ?

R518 the story is he did Helix to raise money for school. Once he had enough, he vanished. Which is a shame because...SO FUCKING HOT

Luke was hot. I would do him even if he had Covid.

I bet Luke has some stories.

I'd like to hear those stories while I worship his cock.

Kane fox.. thoughts!? I find him sexy as hell. Cute face/dick/ass/body

Travis Stevens posted to Twitter “ fuck Snapchat Memories for showing me when I was happy And in love. One year ago he was with Ashton. I’m sure that was for him. In love though? They dated maybe 2 months and Ashton had a new boyfriend immediately after. Word to the wise: any Ashton relationship won’t last or end well. Watch out men.com guys..

Travis has only himself to blame. He knew that Ashton was cheating on his live in boyfriend at the time when he got with Travis and Travis was very nasty towards Calle. So I have no sympathy for Travis. Plus he's a Republican

Meh it will be Theo posting sad shit soon. Ashton has a very clear pattern of being unhappy with what he has. He’ll be back to being a slut soon.

Anyone watching the Joey/ angel drama on Twitter? I knew Joey could be cold but he doesn’t give a fuck and angel seems like he’s close to a breakdown ( Ben masters anyone? )

R526 Please do keep us up to date. Angel always seems to over-react. There's an OnlyFans video of them where he loses a lacrosse ball inside Joey's ass, and Angel is close to freaking out and Joey has to talk him down. So I can only imagine how he'd react to something actually bad. But fuck him, he deserves it for what he did to Ben.

By the way, is it known what caused the breakup? Please say Joey cheated.

How does one loose a lax ball up someone’s ass?

By shoving it up there then being unable to get it back out

Who are these twinks?

From what I'm told both Joey and Angel always had guys on the side so I would be surprised if cheating was the issue but you never know.

On a totally different note Helix's new model Kane Fox's personal FB page has him engaged to be married to one guy but all his recent pictures have him boo-ed up with a totally different guy he calls his love. I don't know much about social media etiquette but why would you a upload new pictures but not change your relationship status? 🤷🏻‍♂️

R531 Link?

Sorry I should have said "in a relationship with" and not engaged.

Thanks R531 I remember the drama and BS about those twinks, how they both were cheating and lying to each other and pulling in lots of $$$ as hos of course; but did not want to man up and admit it...

Kyle retweeted something about Chase being given a ticket by the police in Vegas, but getting out of it by singing a duet with the officer. Neither of them are following the other, though. What I found interesting is that Chase is following a lot of the Helix guys, but specifically not Kyle nor Max. He's even following Kyle's brothers.

Based on what Kyle said the breakup was Chase's idea.

Kyle claims they were both monogamous

After the break up Chase posted on social media "thank you, next"

R537 Guess that means we'll never know why Chase decided to break things off with Kyle. It's not as if he didn't know Kyle was a porn model. And judging by the Helix models Chase follows on Twitter, I don't think it bothered him much. Still strange that he doesn't follow Max or Kyle (I get why) but follows Keith Miller of all people.

Things that make you go "hmmmmmmmm..."

Ashton and Theo must be fighting. They unfollowed each other on Instagram and twitter and deleted pics. Ashton is posting stupid shit to Twitter

Ashton and Theo must be fighting. They unfollowed each other on Instagram and twitter and deleted pics. Ashton is posting stupid shit to Twitter

Apparently they first fucked at the Str8UpGayPorn Awards. So...January. 3 months of true love...over! SOB!

Thought he was his world. See kids this is why you don’t move in with someone after knowing them a month. Theo is quiet..

Rule #1 : don’t date Ashton. Just fuck and leave. Rule #2: stop publicizing your every relationship, you look like a clown. Rule #3: Ashton will be messy, expect it.

It's the drama that keeps followers interested in these guys. The porn is almost secondary at this point. Like with escorting. The porn is just how you make people notice you.

It's the drama that keeps followers interested in these guys. The porn is almost secondary at this point. Like with escorting. The porn is just how you make people notice you.

Joey Mills and Angel Rivera seem to hate each other now. THey are making shady comments about each other on Twitter. And here I thought their love would stand the test of time. LOL

R545 I hear Ben cackling in the back.

Just saw theo Brady’s twitter. He deleted almost all his pics of Ashton. And Ashton posted “ game over” and a bunch of cry baby shit. Would love to know what happened, but if I had to guess it’s Ashtons fault. Guess Theo didn’t fix him/ save him after all.

Who’s taking bets on who Ashton dates next! A coworker from men, or pherhaps he will crawl back to a ex for attention and validation

I still don't understand why all those guys left Helix. And Helix seems to be going down hill now. Kyle hasn't done a scene in forever. None of the guys are interesting. Joey Mills really was a star for that company.

While I don’t get the obsession with twinks at all, the kind of twinks that Helix is hiring these days are not even remotely attractive.

Now that Helix has really gone down the shitter, I sometimes log in to look at videos from the Evan Parker days or the Blake Mitchell days or the Andy Taylor days.

R548 Totally agree. I think that Helix started to rot from the inside a while back, and the consequences of this was the exodus last year of what I would describe as their "current stars" (or were current). And since then, the company hasn't come back, hasn't returned to what made Helix successful in the first place.

I think this started prior to their moving to Vegas, and at first, the move seemed successful, culminating in the highly successful "Vegas Nights". But since then, things have continued to go downhill. For example, why they started a publishing arm is anyone's guess.

As for Kyle, he decided to retire and focus his energies on working BTS for Helix as Operations Manager (and I fully expect him to be named COO before too long). He may have decided to retire, at least one reason, due to his then-relationship with Chase Brown. Complete guess on my end.

Some of the guys they have performing now wouldn't have even been given an interview in the past.

Are you kidding me? &Helix has been around for almost 20 years. They are just going through a bad period right now. Not the first time either. Tommy Anders, Jesse Starr and Aaron Tyler retired and Helix kept right on going. Tommy Anders and I would argue Kyle Ross Iare bigger stars than Joey Mills ever was.

What I would argue and quarantine makes this difficult is for them to concentrate on new models which is their specialty. No more Andy Taylor's and Travis Stevens for a while, just build-up your new model brand and concentrate on that.

I was a Helix boy! Fun times... fufilled my fantasy, made a few bucks (and some good friends) and moved on to the corporate world

I know this is been brought up before and it will never happen but Helix could use some racial diversity. It would bring some excitement and expand their audience. It's true the racist fans can be very vocal and would not be happy but ultimately they would expand their customer base.

They need to hire one guy who actually likes Black and Asian twinks because it's pretty clear the people running the studio now don't like them. He could be the vice president in charge of diversity.

R554 Mind sharing with us who you are? Or what your Helix model name was?

In Helix Studios' early years they were just plain creepy to me with their jail bait, malnourished twink models (like 8TeenBoy is now based on the release with Blake Mitchell which was a year, or two, ago). That changed with Helix Academy featuring Evan Parker.

R557 I would say "Helix Academy" put them on the map, "Lifeguards" showed the quality they were capable of, and "Vegas Nights" was the pinnacle of what they have achieved from a "feature film' perspective. Low points were their collaboration with ColbyKnox ("Tight Ends") and somewhat low with Dominic Pacifico's directing of "Breakin' In". Successful outside director collaborations have been "Flower" (beautiful scene in all respects) and Max Carter's "Winter Break" for 8teenboy clearly showed the influence his experience being Alex Roman's PA served over the years.

Certainly a lot more ups than downs with the larger scenes/projects. Where they are falling short these days is there models recruitment (quarantine aside) and subsequent one-off scenes.

Yeah Helix Academy was the best thing they've ever done and it put them on the map.

I'd say the shelf life of a Helix boy is four years at the most.

There is a part of Helix's base that always gives very poor ratings to videos with people of color beyond fairly European Hispanics. They probably have figured this out, but don't really have a strategy to get around it, perhaps worrying they might lose more subscribers than they'd gain.

Ashton Summers is one of their biggest stars and I wouldn't call him Caucasian or European Hispanic.

I think gay porn studios are in a difficult position right now. Invest in the promotion of their talent and then have their talent quit and start OnlyFans accounts benefitting from the (brief?) time at the studio building a fan base for themselves?

I think studios will get more protective of their brand and the names they give their talent and will not allow their models to use these names outside their studio work.

Ashton Summers is one of their biggest stars and I wouldn't call him Caucasian or European Hispanic.

I think gay porn studios are in a difficult position right now. Invest in the promotion of their talent and then have their talent quit and start OnlyFans accounts benefitting from the (brief?) time at the studio building a fan base for themselves?

I think studios will get more protective of their brand and the names they give their talent and will not allow their models to use these names outside their studio work.

I am 100% in favor of inclusion and diversity in all aspects of life, but I think Helix is a niche studio, with a certain brand that caters to a certain market. Kind of like Bel Ami. So they get a pass from me. That's probably neither right nor politically correct, but I liken it to including bears on Sean Cody or Corbin Fisher. It's just not what they going for. And Helix has included black twinks on their site.

Each studio has a brand and it usually works for them. Would the members appreciate Sean Cody going off brand and release clips where fat, old, hairy dudes have sex with each other? Probably not.

Would members of Helix Studios appreciate if Helix use guys from MEN? Probably not. Would members of MEN appreciate it when MEN would use Helix models? Probably, because they produce a lot of daddy son porn, so it's on brand for them.

Of course, race is always a tricky subject because it brings out the worst in everybody. Personally I would not like any porn studio less for being more diverse when it comes to their models. Every race has its fair share of super hot guys who could get me off.

Ashton is clearly European Hispanic. More like Eurotrash, but its obvious that he has little or no Black or Indiana ancestry.

List of most-recent models who know longer film for Helix: Blake Mitchell, Travis Stevens, Joey Mills, Josh Brady, Sean Ford, Cameron Price, Pheonix Fellington, Julian Bell, Ashton Summers, Tyler Hill, Shane Cook, Angel Rivera, Luke Wilder, Dylan Hayes, Ezra Michaels, Justin Owen, Noah White, Robin Moore, Jeremy Price, Colton James, Wes Campbell, Grayson Lange, and of course, Kyle Ross.

Out of the ones I listed, I'd include the majority as top-tier models. Losing so many in such a short amount of time, regardless of the reason, will hurt any company.

Back in the day, I remember Bel Ami having guys like Lukas and Julien, then replaced by Dano and Sebastien, then replaced by Tim and Danny, then replaced by Luke, then came Kevin, etc... there were always good performers to replace the older performers. I don't see this happening at Helix, at least from the new crop.

R567: Helix is a twink site and a twink has really short shelf life. I do agree though that the majority of those former models you mentioned were top quality. The models that are currently working for Helix wouldn’t even get a shot back in its heyday.

The ones with drama have been frankly a mixed bag, but the site always has been that way.

R9, the better question is why do they get started?

r562 Ashton Summers looks like a White boy with a slight tan. I'm sorry but it's true. If you're racist against Black or Asian people you wouldn't have a problem with Ashton at all. Look at this pic. He's about the same complexion as any of these other models.

Helix can hire who they want but their lack of diversity is in my opinion bad for business. You have to think outside the box and take chances. YES YES YES they will lose a few racist customers but they will eventually in a short time gain new customers.

r564 you don't even believe that yourself otherwise you would advice Helix to advertise as a White's only studio wouldn't you? I mean you're the one who suggested being all white is a niche. And what the Hell does fat or hairy and old have to do with skin complexion r565

You guys act like Black twinks don't exist. They have who websites devoted to them. I'm just arguing for more diversity and less segregation as I think it would be both hot and good for business but the arguments against it so far have been pretty racist.

No one likes every model. Most people only like a couple of of models on any particular website. So why not hair a few models who aren't White. Oh that's right racial segregation is Helix's niche.

"Each studio has a brand and it usually works for them"

You can't have it both ways. Most people here are arguing that Helix brand doesn't work any longer but when it's suggested that they hire just a few models who aren't White suddenly people start defending them and saying their brand works. Which is it?

According to Pornhub Black gay porn is the most searched and viewed category of porn in the US So Helix adding a little diversity would actually help their sales once word got out that they weren't just an all White studio. No one is even saying they have to have half their models be Black or Asian. Just a few

The thing is porn is a business. Why invest in something that your consumers are not going to buy? Why go to the expense of finding the models, paying the models and then getting nothing but negative feedback and no real return on your investment. Yes, it stinks of racism and bigotry. However, I'm not sure if it's up to Helix to include diversity or if it's up to their consumers to demand it. I don't the answer.

r572 You can't rely on the most of the "data" from pornhub because most of the views come from random google searches and very few from users with accounts so they have no way of tracking traits like gender and sexuality, location, etc. They can report raw data on search queries and total time videos are played but it is difficult to run actual statistical studies involving standard statistical controls such as age, sex and especially sexuality. Even when they just report on data from users with accounts that allow users to self-report those categories, the error range is huge for sexuality because the most people don't change the default, which is usually male and straight (sometimes selecting those categories will be used to filter search results so there may be more reliability there but even then lots of gay guys watch straight porn so they would select interested in men and women but not intend that mean bisexuality). Also, bots can be used to manipulate data, especially when advertising uses search metrics for pricing, and transparent metrics for web advertising is notoriously much less reliable than traditional measures such as magazine subscriptions and nealson, etc. So be skeptical of data drawn from search metrics and doubly so if porn is involved...

It's Interesting how the same people that argue that Helix's models suck are the same ones who don't want them to hire any models who aren't White.

r573 how do you know Black or Asian models won't sell? And finding them is certainly no more expensive than any of the other average looking white boys.

r574 Unless you're claiming that pornhub is purposefully skewing their numbers to make it look like Black gay porn is popular, then their numbers are the only numbers we have to work with, no one else is doing the research. They don't have any incentive to lie or manipulate the data It's certainly enough data for any studio to look at and go "Gee we might have an untapped market there"

I bet you a million dollars if they had shown black gay porn as being the least popular everyone would be using that information to say see I told you nobody likes black models.

Kyle is looking really good these days.

Andy you know those sons of the Confederacy dram of BBC.

All the Helix models are ugly. I'd watch if they hired hotter guys as I'm actually into twinks.

[quote]how do you know Black or Asian models won't sell? And finding them is certainly no more expensive than any of the other average looking white boys.

I don't know, but then again, I don't own Helix. I don't have any access to their data about what models sell and don't sell and neither do you. Porn is consumer driven. If they are not offering a certain product, then you can assume one of three things.

1) The company has a white twink policy only (which is racist)

2) The videos that feature models of color don't sell in the same way that the other videos do.

3) The owners of the company only want to produce porn that meets their own personal preferences. Like the founder of Falcon Video. There was an interesting documentary on this. The guy, I can't remember his name, only hired certain types of guys who fell into a certain look, because that's what got him off.

Ask Marcel Tykes? In other cases you are right r579. To add on the fact that it's because of media like Helix that drives preference in gay men because they grew up watching that and that's what they were subconsciously told what was desired. It's like a negative feedback loop that started with the initial content providers (who were white)

r579 I would think it's 1) and 3)

Helix has been around almost 20 years and they've had exactly 3 black models and only one mixed Asian model. How would they even know if it sells with that limited to the amount of models? They seemed very excited to sign Phoenix Fellington to an exclusive contract but he filmed only a few scenes and then quit the porn biz. 🤷🏻‍♂️

You're right they can higher whomever they want. But if you're right about it being 1) or 3) it proves there are some things more important than money.

Here's a link to the HS soap opera thread part 4.

Meh, I think Helix will be fine in the long run. The biggest thing that's hurting right now is covid putting a halt to most/all new production. They still have a core of cute, marketable twinks. Trevor Harris, Caleb Gray, Keagan Case, Nathan James. There will always be a thirsty market for twink porn. And all it takes is one superstar to come along (Evan Parker, Joey Mills) to attract a ton of hungry eyes.

Who have been the real breakout superstars of Helix? Tommy Anders... Kyle Ross. and Joey Mills who are the others?

R384 I would add Evan Parker and Blake Mitchell to the top tier list that includes Kyle Ross and yes, Joey Mills. Second tier (in no particular order) would include Sean Ford, Max Carter, Casey Tanner, Angel Rivera, Andy Taylor, Noah White (who got burned by Deniz Bilgin) and Tyler Hill. Third tier (again, in no particular order) would include Logan Cross, Cameron Parks, Grayson Lange, Corbin Colby, and Kody Knight.

I meant to write R584 in my post above. Does anyone know how to edit these posts?

r585, no mention of Ashton Summers? That's some shade. IMO he is one of Helix's biggest break out stars, next to Blake Mitchell.

Angel Rivera wasn't a great performer then and he isn't really a great one now. What he is is a name and that's because of the controversy he's created with every boyfriend he's had.

Ashton is posting a lot more dick pics now that he's lost boyfriend #8797945353

I think Ashton and Theo has a fight. Sure they deleted all their pics On Instagram, removed their “ taken” bios, unfollowed each other. Then on twitter did the same. Theo is back in St. Louis Aline and bought a new car. Seems like a breakup but today Ashton said he has a boyfriend so I’m guessing they are trying to give it another go. So maybe they will last another month.

I didn't know Alex Riley and Jacob Hansen were a couple (apparently they are), and Kane/Trevor look cute together. Not sure how long any of these will last, but at least they've having fun. And Kyle is now dating another older guy; he and Chance Brown broke up after trying to make it work after their first break-up. The new guy is not involved in the porn industry at all; not sure where Kyle meets these guys, but he's definitely into the older Daddy-type. Quite a difference from his Max Carter days. And speaking of Max Carter, has anyone seen his pup pics? Strange to see alpha male Max Carter enjoying puppy play as a sub.

The more I see of Trevor Harris, the more impressed I am of him. He could definitely be the guy who replaces now-retired Kyle Ross on the Helix roster.

Speaking of Kyle, he ended up buying a home on the same street as the guy he's currently dating. Gonna be awkward if things don't work out between them.

Kyle was a Biden supporter in this last election. I get the idea that he was republican until recently like his twin brother. His new man seems to be fairly liberal.

Is anyone looking forward to "Return to Helix Academy"?

Clearly Helix academy is for Whites only.

R595 Scene 1 was pretty good. I'm always happy to see Trevor Harris having sex.

Helix Could have at least gone to Disney or Nickelodeon and hired some Asian or Black kids for background scenes? An all white school in 2020? Not a good look. It but Istood out to me but I guess I'm in the minority. No pun intended.

Yet another film series written by fag hag Taylor Saracen dropped today (scene 1). Guess all is forgiven after the Joey Affair. Helix is keeping her quite busy these days.

Are Kyle and his most recent boyfriend still together? His FB pages says he's single, and Max seems to be posting a lot of Max/Kyle footage from their European trip from last year. Could a reunion of the two be in the offing?

They must have broken up. Kyle had a link to his bf FB on his page. If it now says that he's single then that's a relationship update.