Treasonable Returns on Your Investment (The Mueller Investigation Part 101)

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Previous thread titles for reference:

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation (10/27/17)

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation, Part Two (10/28/17)

The Four Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 3 (10/31/17)

A Man For All Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 4 (11/5/17)

It's Beginning to Look a lot like Treason! The Mueller Investigation Part 5 (12/4/17)

Treason Is The Reason For The Season! The Mueller Investigation Part 6 (12/16/17)

Treason to Believe (The Mueller Investigation Part 7) (12/26/17)

I Love You For Sentimental Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 8) (1/3/18)

Give Me One Treason To Stay Here... (The Mueller Investigation Part 9) (1/15/18)

Treasons of Love (The Mueller Investigation Part 10) (1/24/18)

For Treasons Which Are Well Known To Them (The Mueller Investigation Part 11) (1/30/18)

Come on and Treason Down, Treason Down the Road (The Mueller Investigation Part 12) (2/6/18)

13 Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 13) (2/18/18)

By Treason of Insanity (The Mueller Investigation Part 14) (2/23/18)

The Edge of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 15) (2/28/18)

A Treason to Live; A Treason to Die (The Mueller Investigation Part 16)…(3/10/18)

Treasons of the Heart (The Mueller Investigation Part 17) (3/17/18)

A Stormy Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 18) (3/21/18)

Lovin', Touchin', Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 19) (3/26/18)

Everything Happens for a Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 20) (4/4/18)

For All the Right Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 21) (4/11/18)

Treasons Change (The Mueller Investigation Part 22) (4/16/18)

Dangerous Tre'asons (The Mueller Investigation Part 23) (4/22/18)

Don't Stop (the) Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 24) (5/1/18)

Got This Treason in My Body (The Mueller Investigation Part 25) (5/7/18)

I'm Treason on a Jet Plane... (The Mueller Investigation Part 26) (5/14/18)

Treasonnaires' Disease (The Mueller Investigation Part 27) (5/21/18)

You've Lost That Lovin' Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 28) (6/2/18)

Multiple Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 29) (6/9/18)

For Undisclosed Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 30) (6/18/18)

The Apple Doesn't Fall Far from the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 31) (06/23/18)

Treason d'être (The Mueller Investigation Part 32) (06/30/18)

My Treasons Are Not My Own (The Mueller Investigation Part 33) (07/08/18)

The Treasons a Baby Cries (The Mueller Investigation Part 34) (07/13/19)

Get to Know Your Family Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 35) (07/15/18)

All You Got To Do is Hold Him And Kiss Him and Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 36) (07/17/18)

Fall or Spring? Which Would / Wouldn't Be Your Favorite Treason? (The Mueller Investigation Part 37) (07/18/18)

It's the Time of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 38) (07/21/18)

My Treasonal Summer Job Abroad (The Mueller Investigation Part 39) (07/25/18)

Yellow is the Color of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 40) (07/27/18)

The Treason for my Life's Trials and Tribulations (The Mueller Investigation Part 41) (07/31/18)

Hunting Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 42) (08/04/18)

It's Swimsuit Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 43) (08/07/18)

Treasonably Priced (The Mueller Investigation Part 44) (08/12/18)

Tre45onal Affective Disorder (The Mueller Investigation Part 45) (08/16/18)

A Plea for Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 46 (08/21/18)

Untreasonably Hot (The Mueller Investigation Part 47) (08/22/18)

There is a Treason... Turn, Turn, Turn (The Mueller Investigation Part 48) (08/24/18)

The Voice of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 49) (08/28/18)

The Golden Age of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 50) (09/03/18)

Treasons for Remaining Anonymous (The Mueller Investigation Part 51) (09/08/18)

Hurricane Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 52) (09/16/18)

All Natural Mushroom Treasoning (The Mueller Investigation Part 53) (09/22/18)

Treasoning with an Alcoholic (The Mueller Investigation Part 54) (09/28/18)

Judicial Treasoning (The Mueller Investigation Part 55) (10/06/18)

Treasons for Hidden Genius (The Mueller Investigation Part 56) (10/15/18)

Trick or Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 57) (10/25/18)

Several Treasons to Get Out and Vote in the Midterms (The Mueller Investigation Part 58) (11/5/18)

Heading Back to the Magical Keebler Elf Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 59) (11/11/18)

It's Turkey Picking Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 60) (November 18, 2018)

Stepping into the Holiday Treason! (The Mueller Investigation Part 61) (November 26, 2018)

Treason's Greetings! (The Mueller Investigation Part 62) (November 29, 2018)

Spirit of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 63) (December 3, 2018)

'Tis the Treason to be Jolly (The Mueller Investigation Part 64) (December 5, 2018)

Celebrate this Holiday Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 65) (December 8, 2018)

Treasons to Get out of Solitary (The Mueller Investigation Part 66) (December 10, 2018)

Numerous Treasons For Silence (The Mueller Investigation Part 67) December 12, 2018)

Treasons We Celebrate This Season (The Mueller Investigation Part 68) (December 15, 2018)

Trimming the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 69) (December 19, 2018)

O Christmas Treason, O Christmas Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 70) (December 22, 2018)

Treasons We'll Be Ringing in the New Year (The Mueller Investigation Part 71) (December 27, 2018)

Treasons I'm Coming For You (The Mueller Investigation Part 72) (January 3, 2019)

A Shutdown is Perfectly Treasonable (The Mueller Investigation Part 73) (January 6, 2019)

Treasons I'm Focused (The Mueller Investigation Part 74) (January 10, 2019)

Treasons We Need A Wall (The Mueller Investigation Part 75) (January 13, 2019)

Mid-Treason Replacement (The Mueller Investigation Part 76) (January 15, 2019)

A Treasonable Request (The Mueller Investigation Part 77) (January 19, 2019)

Treasons to Postpone (The Mueller Investigation Part 78) (January 23, 2019)

Swinging from the Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 79) (January 26, 2019)

Sweating Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 80) (January 30, 2019)

I'll Be Your Girl For All Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 81) (February 4, 2019)

House Cleaning Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 82) (February 9, 2019)

For Emergency Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 83) (February 15, 2019)

Treasons I Speak (The Mueller Investigation Part 84) (February 19, 2019)

Treasonable Preparations (The Mueller Investigation Part 85) (February 23, 2019)

Treasons for Redemption (The Mueller Investigation Part 86) (March 1, 2019)

Treasons to Watch (The Mueller Investigation Part 87) (March 7, 2019)

A Treasonable Amount of Time (The Mueller Investigation Part 88) (March 11, 2019)

Treasons I Have Veto Power (The Mueller Investigation Part 89) (March 18, 2019)

Treasons I've Submitted My Report (The Mueller Investigation Part 90) (March 22, 2019)

Treasons to Continue On (The Mueller Investigation Part 91) (March 24, 2019)

Treasons For a Barr Cover (The Mueller Investigation Part 92) (March 24, 2019)

Treasons to Protect Our Assets (The Mueller Investigation Part 93) (March 26, 2019)

Treasonable Interference (The Mueller Investigation Part 94) (March 31, 2019)

Tax Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 95) (April 6, 2019)

Treasons You May Leave (The Mueller Investigation Part 96) (April 11, 2019)

Treasonable Redactions (The Mueller Investigation Part 97) (April 18, 2019)

Treasons We Won't Abandon Him (The Mueller Investigation Part 98) (April 19, 2019)

Treasons to Subpoena (The Mueller Investigation Part 99) (April 24, 2019)

Treasons She was Right... About Everything (The Mueller Investigation Part 100) (April 30, 2019)

Treasonable Returns on Your Investment (The Mueller Investigation Part 101) (May 3, 2019)

Bravo OP!

♥️ OP

This thread series is embarassing, but especially the meme in the OP.

It was a pleasure to block R7.

It's more.embarassing for R7 that he's obsessed with these threads.

Congressman Steve Cohen tonight dismissed the criticism of his “chicken stunt.”

The Tennessee Democrat told Anderson Cooper tonight that the House may have no choice but to have the sergeant-at-arms bring Attorney General Bill Barr in to answer Congress’ questions.

But Cohen got a lot of attention for mocking Barr’s absence at the House Judiciary Committee hearing this week with some fried chicken.

At one point, Cooper said if they really sent the sergeant-at-arms out there, it would be handing Republicans “an incredible thing to point to as Democtatic overreach.”

“They went after you for the chicken stunt yesterday,” Cooper noted, pointing out the criticism that Cohen wasn’t taking this seriously.

Cohen defended his actions and basically told his critics to get a life:

“Anybody who had a modicum of a sense of humor or a modicum of intelligence or understanding liked it. Those that failed in those two criteria didn’t. And for those people, get a life.”

Besides Anderson maybe he meant Kimmel there.

Jimmy Kimmel mocked a Democratic congressman for eating Kentucky Fried Chicken at a committee hearing Thursday morning to ridicule Attorney General William Barr for canceling his testimony.

“Wow, what a sick burn that is,” the comedian said sarcastically Thursday on “Jimmy Kimmel Live.” “Trump’s gonna win again with stuff like that, isn’t he?”

Another block.

[quote]Trump will talk to Putin about Mueller, but Trump wont talk to Mueller about Putin. What does that tell you ?

From the previous thread, and so perfect it deserves a reprise, and viral status.

The answer to the question is, 'Everything.'

She's Got Miss Lindsey Eyes

Her hair is Harlow gold Her lips are sweet surprise Her hands are never cold She's got Miss Lindsey eyes She'll turn the music on you You won't have to think twice She's pure as any ho She got Miss Lindsey eyes And she'll tease you, she'll unease you All the better just to please you She's precocious, and she knows just what it Takes to make a pro blush She got McTurtle's standoff sighs, she's got Miss Lindsey eyes She'll let you take her home It whets her appetite She'll lay you on the throne She got Miss Lindsey eyes She'll take a tumble on you Roll you like you were dice Until you come out blue She's got Miss Lindsey eyes She'll expose you, when she snows you Off your feet with the crumbs, she throws you She's ferocious and she knows just what it Takes to make a pro blush All the menz think she's spry, she's got Miss Lindsey's eyes And she'll tease you, she'll unease you All the better just to please you She's precocious, and she knows just what it Takes to make a pro blush All the boys think she's spry, she's got Miss Lindsey's eyes She'll tease you She'll unease you Just to please you She's got Miss Lindsey's eyes She'll expose you When she snows you She knows you, she's got Miss Lindsey's eyes

Any Democratic strategy must include the state legislatures in 2020. We have to replicate 2018, and we have to increase it. But if we don't secure the state legislatures and governors we are still fucked. In states where we won a governor, but didn't secure the legislature we are watching that legislature block the Democratic governors. If we want to end suppression and gerrymandering and protect our elections from cyber attacks we have to make sure we build a strong firewall.

Michael Cohen goes to jail on Monday. I hope he drops a bombshell or two .

Someone on TV Friday called him a rat and said they hope he is "careful" in prison. He's going to a federal facility in upstate NY.

AP: As prison looms, prosecutors refuse final meeting with Cohen

USA Today: California bill: President Trump won't appear on ballot unless he releases tax returns

r17...of course they would...Cohen is grasping at straws now and isnt offering anything of any relevance. What prosecutors want to know, Cohen refuses to discuss.

How is Trump going to get around R18?

Jerry Brown refused to release his taxes and he wasn't banned from the ballot in California.

Trump wasn’t going to win California anyway, but a lot of people vote in Presidential years just to vote for the President. Then they vote one party the whole ticket down.

If people want to vote for Trump, and he’s not on the ballot, they may just stay home. It might help some of the local races.

Looks like Cohen didn't have any "smoking gun" recordings after all?

Well, shit.

The California bill only applies to the primary vote, not the general election. Does Trump even need to run in the primary?

r24, THAT is BRILLIANT. Californians know how to fuck him up.

If he is denied general votes, and California never votes for him, NBD.

However, if he is denied being on the PRIMARY ballot, he misses out on on the CALIFORNIA REPUBLICAN DELEGATES to the REPUBLICAN convention.

That is 172 delegates Trump already lost.

BRILLIANT.

There are also multiple states that have already passed laws stating that all of their electoral votes will go to whoever wins the popular vote....I think the last tally has it at 200+ votes already and there are more states trying to push through similar laws.

The ultimate Trump effect will be the laws that make sure another Trump NEVER HAPPENS.

The laws about appointing unqualified Cabinet secretaries will be near the top of the list.

Is it possible Barr has asserted his authority to stop prosecutors from meeting with Cohen? I wouldn't put anything passed the scum in the White House and their minions.

We don't need a list of previous threads. No one is going to go back and read any of them. It's the same people saying the same things over and over.

Republican Senator Mike Enzi announces he will retire and not run for re-election!

r29, maybe not for this uber big thread series, but I would not mind that for a thread series like the one of Richard Madden and Brandon Flynn.

"Cohen is grasping at straws now and isn't offering anything of any relevance"

Maybe Cohen can share why he paid former Playmate Shera Bechard $1.6 million to have an abortion?

"like the one of Richard Madden and Brandon Flynn."

Not to get off topic, but who the fuck are these two clowns and why do they generate such interest around here.

And no, bitch, I'm not going to Google them because I have better things to do with my time, like playing with my hemorrhoids.

Yes, R32. I wonder how Trump's pro-lifers would feel about him if they knew that the baby she was paid to abort was Trump's and Broidy only covered it up by claiming it was his kid. (allegedly).

r32. The most obvious answer to that is that Cohen must be a big fan of Absolutely Fabulous.

Talibangelicals don't GAF. They will say he has "changed" and if "god" chose Beelzebub to do the work of banning abortions, then it's ok. Any of his multitude of sins are forgiven.

They are hypocrites of the first order.

The last thread, the Hillary one where she was right about everything, really had some huge shit come out, like the Mueller letter, during its run that may be the start of the dam breaking on Pres Bone Spurs. How apropos it occurred during a thread with the person most aggrieved by the Russians stealing our election.

The Christian Right Wing endorsed Mitt Romney, a Mormon. Because the alternative, a black Liberal, was too much for them.

Same goes with pussy grabbing Trump. According to them he's a Saint compared to pant suit wearing Hillary.

The Christian Right is neither Christian nor right.

And yet TWO you'll be in each and every one of these because you can't help yourself, right?

Bill Maher ( don't even like him) had a good show and commentary last night. He started off by saying "As a country, we are so fucked" and "Good news. Trump talked to someone about Mueller. Bad news is it was Putin he talked to"... I know you can watch it for yourselves but last night it really hit me that we are in a constitutional crisis. We have a criminal, possibly traitorous, President who is an autocrat wannabe And the GOP are complicit and likely compromised for sure as Trump is and the Democrats are adrift. Maizie Hirono blasted Barr which was so needed. Kamala Harris questioned the crooked AG masterfully. Other Democrats also did well. But where did that get us? Barr brazenly ignored the subpoena. Someone on CNN I think said that the Democrats had disrespected him. Fuck that. What is to respect.

I'm sorry. I'm all over the place so I'll shut up in a minute. The Democrats have to initiate impeachment proceedings against Trump. Trump spent and hour and a half on the phone with Putin yesterday. And Trump talked to him about the "Russian hoax" . This is as bad as it gets. If not now, when? Please call your reps and even Nancy Pelosi's office and tell them our Democracy is at stake. I don't want to hear about how the people at the Dem. rallies don't care about Trump/Russia. Fucking MAKE them care. Do your jobs. Thanks. Peace out.

I wish the media would have Weld on their programs more often. He needs to get more attention. The more that he can pull off even a small amount of voters from Trump, the better. I want him to wage the nastiest campaign and just go at Trump like no one else has. He knows he's going to lose so it won't hurt him to rip into every despicable thing about Trump. To my knowledge only Lawrence O'Donnell has really featured him so far though. I wish all the mainstream media would give him more coverage. Every time there's some breaking news about Trump, they should have Weld on speed dial to comment

I like William Weld. He's well-informed and has good experiences.

Trump will talk to Putin but not Mueller tells you everything you need to know about that sack of shit.

Isn't it more important to try and win the Senate and the House? It seems like that's where the real power is, no matter who is President.

[quote]USA Today: California bill: President Trump won't appear on ballot unless he releases tax returns

These laws will all go through the court system when Repugs sue, so don't get your hopes up for them to be in place for 2020.

Pelosi, once again too frightened of Trump and his Deplorables. Such a disappointment.

[quote] WASHINGTON — Speaker Nancy Pelosi does not believe President Trump can be removed through impeachment — the only way to do it, she said this week, is to defeat him in 2020 by a margin so “big” he cannot challenge the legitimacy of a Democratic victory.

R29 Pelosi is still trying to act like it's normal politics. It's not. Trump is a cheater, a traitor and a menace who needs to be dealt with now.

R47, what part of what she said isn't true? The Repugs in the Senate would have to vote to remove him. They will not. We are watching the impeachment investigations right now but without a conviction in the Senate, charging impeachment only helps Trump because he'll be "innocent" because the Senate said so. What don't you dolts understand about that reality?

R49 Because if you don't keep shining a light on these rats, they will cheat and steal the election again. Impeachment is one way of doing it, but not the only way. The problem is not about impeachment but whether the Dems have the guts to actually use their rightful power to rein in all the abuses committed by Trump and his GOP rogues. So far, they have been doing a piss poor job of it since the rogue AG Barr started all his disinformation campaign.

Its unconscionable that Dump will chat it up with Putie but shuns Mueller.

Mueller, bust his balls!

DoJ, FBI, CIA ... DO SOMETHING!!!

It is true that without the Senate's help Trump can't be removed from the White House at all. But the Dems can use impeachment to show their lack of confidence in Trump's administration and force the Senate to go on record as well and use that against them over and over again in the 2020 election campaign when it's even more official (through, say impeachment hearings) how corrupt and criminal Trump and his associates are.

What do you think all these investigations are? You have to investigate a crime before you charge a crime, even impeachment. The Democrats are doing fine. They are setting up the upcoming court fights over subpoenas, testimony, and documents by doing everything by the book so the judges will have a very easy time ruling in their favor. You are playing into Trump's hand by attacking the Dems for not being reactionary assholes like the Repugs.

R52 As we know, Pelosi's lame excuse is that it would divide the country and derail bipartisan legislation... as if there is anything like bipartisanship left in this government.

R54, you are just a lying troll. If you can't figure out that being found not-guilty by the Senate, which is the 100% guaranteed outcome, would be a gift for Trump and the Repugs, then you are just ignorant.

R53 Those investigations are more talk than action. The Dems are being stymied by all the obstruction by the GOP controlled parts of the government. They look weak by not exercising their rightful power with the necessary determination and enforcement. The GOP will not be frightened by barking Dems.

I remember something like this happening 20 years ago. What was DL saying back then?

R56 The Dems need to start biting and make the fat pig GOP squeal.

R52 nails the reason for impeachment proceedings. Get those fucking GOP senators on record.

[quote]But the Dems can use impeachment to show their lack of confidence in Trump's administration

The Dems have shown their lack of confidence every day since this god-forsaken administration began.

R59 And more of the GOP senators are up for re-election 2020 than the mid-terms.

And why must the win by Democrats in 2020 be big enough so that fat pig can’t challenge it? If a democratic president wins by 1 electoral vote, that’s enough. I can’t believe Pelosi would suggest such a thing.

R62 Pelosi has the delusion as Hillary, thinking you can defeat a demagogue by conventional means. In retrospect, Hillary should have gone nuclear on Trump's ass!

Dems just need to continue to investigate.... it may damage Drumpf a bit more, it may lead to impeachment. At this point every side is so baked it’s not as big a risk if he’s acquitted in the Senate.

What I hate about Pelosi's comment is that she implies that you can reason with Trump and the Deplorables by convincing them the Dems won fair and square through a clear majority win and they will go peacefully. This is never going to happen. Trump and the Deplorables will scream bloody murder and blame the Dems for cheating. Deep State style.

Pelosi STILL treats Trump, the GOP, and their supporters with kid gloves. And that doesn't cut it anymore when we all know how fucked up the whole thing is with Putin hacking the votes and giving the win to Trump at the 2016 election and the GOP going out of their way to keep an illegitimate, criminal president in the White House.

The big take away from the Mueller Report (even in its redacted form) is that Trump cheats and he asks people to commit crimes to help him cheat. There is no way to effectively investigate an amoral unrepentant cheater who's ready to abuse the full power of the presidency. Pelosi can equivocate and delay, but at the end of the day, Trump will obstruct and obstruct until the only option left is to impeach to give the investigation enough power to plow through the obstructions. Or give up and wait for the election against a known cheater. Good luck with that.

the thing is it seems the Democrats are largely banking on Trump being defeated in 2020. What happens if he isn't? Then he'll be even more outrageous, destructive and dangerous to our country. Are they just hoping at some point they'll have the House and Senate? Most of us don't want to wait until 2023 to impeach him.

Trump being impeached would be a stain on his legacy even if he gets reelected. If he's not impeached and gets reelected, that will look even crazier in history.

The vile repubs are going to be super motivated to defend their man and reelect him regardless of what the Democrats do. They should impeach him as a matter of principle and it will hurt his ego at the very least

Pelosi doesn't seem concerned at all about Putin hacking the 2020 election. Why? Does this "cooler heads will prevail" really work in this situation? Trump created a narrative where if he gets reelected it's fair and totally legit and when the other side wins Hillary and the Deep State cheated to get back at him. That's what Pelosi is up against and yet she doesn't seem to have any counter measure to establish her / the Dems' own narrative people can believe in.

that's the thing. Trump will spin and twist the narrative no matter what happens. So it's pointless to worry about "how Democrats look to the public". Most people have chosen their side now. There's nothing to be afraid of except inaction because that will embolden him. Trump will bully and accuse and deflect regardless

r69, exactly. So why the fuck does Pelosi care about Trump and the Deplorables whether they accept defeat or not? Her priority should be to get the Dems message out the best and most effective way possible (and that imho is impeaching Trump in the House and let the Senate look bad by not convicting the clear criminal Trump is).not whether Trump and the Deplorables will approve, accept, and respect said message and defeat.

Obama was never impeached, so impeach Trump just to drive him crazy knowing it will be part of his legacy.

Nixon was never impeached either. He resigned on the damning evidence of the Impeachment Inquiry.

Miss Nancy needs to open up an Impeachment Inquiry on Trump.

They are going to open up an impeachment inquiry. What the hell do you think the point of the investigations they've started is? Just stop. This is a process and the Democrats are doing exactly what they should be doing right now. The next step is the contempt charges. Then the courts or, maybe, arrests. They are doing it the way they are doing it because that is what the court is going to need to find in their favor. You are acting like "I want it and I want it now!" pouty children. Let the grown ups who know that they are doing finish their jobs.

[quote]This is never going to happen. Trump and the Deplorables will scream bloody murder and blame the Dems for cheating. Deep State style.

There's no more "when they go low, we go high." The Republican party has proven that no matter what happens they will always go lower.

Thank you, r73. You say pouty children, I say trolls.

Pelosi's in the position of having to decide would she rather be sorry she impeached Trump, or would she rather be sorry she didn't impeach Trump. I think ultimately she'll decide she'd rather be sorry she impeached him, and go for it.

r76. I am sorry, but that's kind of a cop-out. I get it that the Dems at the moment are not all powerful, but they should use what they can to go on record that they disapprove of Trump and his crimes. They can do that best by using the power of the House to impeach. Go on official record that they disapprove. Force the Republicans to go on record that they are ok with criminal Trump who was put in the White House by Putin.

Pelosi should not be afraid of using a so called "nuclear" option for someone like Trump. She shouldn't announce that the actual act of impeachment is useless. Put the focus on the actual hearings and investigations in the House and stop with the "impeachment is off the table" nonsense.

R77, she literally said "impeachment is NOT off the table" earlier today. So sick of the ignorant and their proclamations.

because the longer they wait, the less likely they'll be to do it. Impeachment hearings should begin before 2020. I'm not sure the Democrats would impeach him in 2020 with the election coming up. The Democrats need to stop playing defense. I agree contempt charges are important but don't allow Barr and Trump to keep stalling for time. They will not budge and are hoping to run out the clock. Wanting the Democrats to go faster is not "being a troll" or "ignorant".

For those who automatically declare anyone who disagrees with them is a ‘troll’....you can only block so many people before you’re talking to yourself.

R80 I blocked one troll, and all the talk against impeachment disappeared.

R80 = troll!

Here's the deal: We all believed Trump would lose to Hillary but due to Russian interference and the electoral college , the orange fucker became Pres. (barf)

Then we all believed the congress would provide checks and balances-they failed due mostly to the GOP House and Senate.

Then we believed in Mueller and his report failed -supposedly he didn't investigate/follow the money, didn't insist on interviewing Don jr and allowed Trump to dictate the naure of the questions he was asked and allowed to give written answers. He caved.

Then we sort of -some people- trusted Barr who wrote a 19 page memo calling Muellers investigation flawed and should never have been started and the Democrats didn't raise holy hell and refuse to even be present at hearings. The Democrats should have pulled a McConnell. but once again, we wimped out because we are decent and insist on playing fair.

Also a mistake was trusting Rosenstein. And that weasel betrayed the USA.

I'm holding on by a thread but the fucker should be impeached for calling Putin and talking for 90 minutes and especially for talking about what he calls the "Russian Hoax". Add to that the shit he pulled in Helsinki and Ms. Pelosi needs to move forward with impeachment.

Yes I know the House is investigating and perhaps Nancy is right once again and playing Trump like the fool he is and will strike with impeachment when the asshole is least likely to expect it. Otherwise, we are fucked! The s.o.b. isn't leaving office no matter what the ballot boxes show-and we have all heard him say he has the military and law enforcement behind him. This shit is getting real. and I pray Auntie Nancy knows what she's doing. But I respect Kamala and Mayor Pete and Auntie Elizabeth- and they say "impeach now".

[quote]Then we believed in Mueller and his report failed -supposedly he didn't investigate/follow the money,

r83, there are 13 other ongoing investigations that Mueller spun off.

Barr published a 19 page job application. The Barr cover-up letter was 3.5 pages long.

Rosenstein was The Mole.

We are waiting for Nancy to open the Impeachment Investigation.

I wonder if the Republicans would be hemming and hawing about impeaching Hillary? I'm sure they had the whole battle mapped out long before the 2020 election. Now what will they do with all the 'evidence' they compiled about in her in anticipation of her winning POTUS?

The people going on and on about how slow the Democrats are going need to go read up on Nixon. I stand by my claim that it's based on ignorance of not only how things work in Washington but how much is currently happening and about almost all of American political history.

So, R85, you think our goal should be to turn into criminal, amoral Repugs? Really? From what I see, the Repug party is going the way of the Whigs. They have no base that can win them any election without cheating, gerrymandering, hacking, and foreign interference and what they do have is shrinking by the year. Their policies are out of step with 75% of Americans. They are an amoral vacuum of corruption and greed. But, you want us to be just like them?

I see the new line of troll attacks is attack Pelosi and the Dems. Got it. It is clear.

Anyone who underestimates Pelosi is a f o o l and needs to have several seats.

This is exponentially more difficult because an entire political party has abdicated its duty and responsibilities for power and conservatism. You cannot discount this. This is a game changer and requires cooler heads to prevail. It may not be sexy and fun but it will get the job done.

r88. What job? Pelosi is basically saying that it's up to the voters to vote him out since impeachement (the only thing the Dems could accomplish before the election) isn't really worth the effort.

Pelosi is rolling the dice. She's trusting the fate of the nation to the American people, a good portion of which are too lazy to vote or too stupid to see through a con man because of their own idiotic prejudice. She's also letting the Russians and Faux News go unchallenged going into 2020. She better have some hidden "deep state" strategy to get us through this or we're all going to hell in a handbasket.

r89 wrong

r90 wrong

You know nothing.

[quote] You know nothing.

You bitch.

Don’t be shortsighted.

Pelosi is playing the cards she’s been dealt like an expert.

1. She also knows our craven Republican Senators wouldn’t impeach the Dotard even if he asked Putin to be his running mate.

Nancy knows the majority is really embarrassed by, and dislikes the clown; and she doesn’t want him “winning” because an impeachment charge fails in the Senate.

Dems have the House. Waaay more Senate Republican seats are in play next year than are Democratic seats.

Investigations right up to the election will reveal even more dirt and remind the public of how much they detest the Dotard.

Another “wave” will flip the Senate.

Trump probably won’t survive it. But even if he were to hold on by his fingernails - [italic] another wave will flip the Senate [/italic].

r93. Not to split hairs, but the House impeaches, the Senate convicts. Getting rid of Trump would require both steps to happen.

It is frustrating, because in the mid-terms the Dems got the majority of the House and Pelosi is like "Well, it's nice that we have the House and we will do some investigations and hearings, but we can't rock the boat too hard and go for impeaching because that might scare off independent voters!", because those independent voters may buy the "witch hunt" narrative when we are being too harsh to Donald Trump and the Republicans by using the powers the House has too much.

Nancy will be using the Nixon approach. She will investigate publicity and air all of his dirty laundry in public

so he will have 1]no recourse but to resign or 2]Republicans will nominate someone else.

WE WILL GET THERE.

i wonder if all the "we will not go for impeachment" talk by Pelosi is an attempt to give Trump a false sense of safety? Only to piss him off and humiliate him with the public hearings and investigations?

[quote]Pelosi is playing the cards she’s been dealt like an expert.

SNL's Weekend Update spent the first couple of minutes going at the Democrats for generally being ineffective which is no different than what some people are saying here.

You’re of course correct. R94 the House impeaches (like an indictment). Then the Senate either convicts on that charge, or exonerates.

Don’t want a failure.

And R97. Yes, it sucks to be in the minority.

. . . Or to have no power to execute.

The thing is that the Democratic Party has actual power in the House, but Nancy announced that they will not use all of it, because it MAY scare off the voters they need to get more power. And that's fucked up.

Did the Republicans care when impeaching Clinton that they also didn't have to votes in the Senate? They did not hesitate. Also, by Barr's logic, Clinton could have fired Ken Starr at anytime he pleased. Dems are timid while Republicans abuse their power any chance they get.

R99 It would be different if people would walk away from their television sets, taking selfies for Instagram, and checking how many likes their last Facebook post got and would just fucking take to the streets every day until this fucking corrupt administration would RESIGN. But that takes effort. And Trump relies on Americans being the lazy fucks that we are.

We've been conditioned to be lazy and focus all our energy on Keeping Up With The Karadashians.

The House Republicans didn’t give a fuck about impeaching Clinton, until it failed in the opposing party controlled Senate (sound familiar?) - and “winning” Bill Clinton was resoundingly re-elected.

Bitch, please. Clinton lied over a blowjob. You honestly think that the public will side with Trump, because the Dems got "petty"?

R104 The impeachment happened in Clinton's second term... Al Gore had to deal with the aftermath.

How would you like Pelosi to SHOW how CONCERNED she is? Please just stop. I get it. We hate Trump. We all believe he is dangerous. We all talk about how he won't go quietly. But we are shining a spotlight on corruption. We are holding what amounts to impeachment hearings calling his administration out, every day. We are doing it by the book, because even if Trump doesn't follow or even acknowledge the law, he is still, ultimately, subject to the rule of law.

The majority of he American voters want him out, and if he gets in again it will be by corrupt means. He will not be President in 2023 if we do our job, which is to overwhelmingly vote, take the Senate and hold the House. We can then impeach him in 2021 if necessary, and he will be gone by June of 2021 at the latest. Personally I'd love to see him impeached right now. But unless we can peel off 20 senators from the Republican side it would have no meaning.

Instead, we're doing what we're supposed to do. Pelosi is going down TWO tracks. One is calling them out, holding hearings, investigating, every damned day. The Second is to make sure the American people, most of whom have never read the Mueller report, are reminded that the Democratic Party knows how to govern well, and is responsible, and recognizes the concerns of most people about the kitchen table issues affecting their lives.

It's not as emotionally satisfying, but it's the right way to go. The Republicans want us to try to impeach him right now.That is their end game. They will use it to show how the Democratic PArty are radical socialists who attempted a coup. I'm not giving them any advantage. Winning a battle and losing a war is not my style. We're angry and we have a right to be. He is a vile, despicable excuse for a man. I'd love to personally kick his ass. But if I have to play chess instead of just dragging his ass out of the WH, I will.

My reward will be that he is gone. Because I do believe we will get him out. Republican tactics never change. They spread fear, lies and division, they suppress the vote, and now they also invite foreign adversaries to interfere. We can beat them. .They are not invincible. They can be defeated. But also remember that we must flip the state legislatures, too. So as we tease out these "what if..." cenarios, lets embrace this one:" What if we win..." BEcause that is the most likely outcome.

Please keep in mind that Russia and the Republicans who are all part of this conspiracy to hold power, are fighting on many fronts, and that includes weakening and undermining us. Exploiting our weaknesses and divisions. Getting rid of Pelosi, undermining her weakening her is part of that. Exploiting our anger to encourage us to act precipitously is part of it. We really have to be smart and disciplined and whatever we do we need a strategy to be effective. If we do decide to start impeachment hearings tomorrow, then we need a complete strategy, and we need to market it and make it part of our 2020 Elections scheme. That is exactly how the Republican operatives do things. So whatever we do we need to be smart about HOW we do it.

David Frum highlights two sentences from the Mueller Report that have been glossed over by the media:

Mueller may appear before House Judiciary Cmte on May 15.

Bravo R107.

That is excellent news, R110.

Speculation and rumor has it Mueller is going to say no or not respond to Miss Lindzee's entrapping attempt letter, and instead appear before a House Committee.

Good link r110.

Washington Post: Mueller and House Judiciary Committee tentatively agree on May 15 for his testimony on Russia investigation, House Democrat says

Thanks r107 im sick of people criticizing the dems. I trust nancy to be STRATEGIC. Its an atypical fucked up situation the dems have to navigate.

[quote]Rosenstein was The Mole.

From the get-go.

The stress is starting to show.

SNL's Weekend Update roasts Dump's description of phone call with his beloved Putie

AP: Fines, jail time? Trump team resists oversight, Dems dig in

Pelosi has information the public doesn't.

Trump fears Pelosi more than anyone.

Pelosi knows what she's doing.

They saw that the report raised serious issues which would need to be followed-up on. So Barr gave them three long weeks to mount their defense, which is to not cooperate anymore.

I like how Trump was contemplating whether he would 'allow' McGahn to be interviewed. Isn't McG a private citizen now?

USA Today: Trump on collision course with Supreme Court; justices may avoid interference in 2020 election

Laurence Tribe "Mueller bent over backwards in Trump's favor on these campaign finance issues involving forbidden Russian assistance. I honestly can't figure out why".

Asha Rangappa: " Impeachment is important not because of the outcome but because of the process. It's an assertion that we believe and stand by the principles that underlie our system of government, regardless of the outcome---which is what the rule of law is all about".

I'm not sure why Mueller was unable to nail the Trump family down on their egregious ties with Russia, when I've literally read dozens of articles which spelled it out so clearly a retarded 1st grader would understand it.

So disappointing. And these people with Ivy League educations- with yuge salaries- don't seem to know who is responsible for what: Mueller says Barr should do this; Barr says Mueller is responsible for that... Amateur hour.

I fear it will all go to the Supreme Court, and land in the hands of Gorsuch/Kavanaugh/Long Dong.

LOL! Not cooperating is not a good defense. It's the Trump way. He has done it all throughout his career. Run the clock. Delay, delay, delay. His opponent always gave up because they couldn't afford the legal maneuvering. But now he is dealing with Congress and they have way more resources and more time than anyone he has ever faced in a legal proceeding.

Here is something you can believe and count on: For all their posturing in public, for all their tough talk, lies, and stalling, they are bluffing. THey are scared. They are panicking. Trump and Rudy might be hanging in there. Even BArr is giving it the old "college try" , but they're standing in a burning building and the roof's 'bout to fall in on them. Scared little fuckers.

What we need now, is some swat team stealth operatives out here who will do the dirty work of exposing McConnell and Graham, and other GOP members and get some real dirt on them. No reason why we can't get real dirty and kick some ass. We need a "steele Dossier" or a National Enquirer type to start fucking them up. Trump has no problem fighting dirty, investigating political opponents, etc. neither should we.

Deplorables think Trump calls Jesus for guidance.

No, Trump calls Putie for instructions.

What on earth is Trump doing that Jesus would possibly recommend? Locking brown babies in cages?

If this was 2000 years ago, Trump would be selling Baby Jesus to a sex trafficker and deporting Mary and Joseph.

Pretty soon, R83, it'll be "We never believed he would declare himself President-for-Life and assume absolute dictatorial powers."

Then it'll be "We never believed he would start exterminating his enemies and everyone who didn't vote for him."

Dear Mr. Mueller:

WH refuses to agree to have Stephen Miller testify before the House Oversight Committee.

R129 Amy Klobuchar is checkmating Miss Graham, who will fume about it.

What I love about this is, after having watched Klobuchar perform at hearings for a while now, and I'm going back before Kavanaugh and the rest, I'm talking about when Franken was still a round, Klobuchar is the kind of person who would do that even if she was not running for POTUS. Klobuchar and Adam Schiff are very similar types.

What’s going on with Boeing?

They decide to play ball with the dictator, get their janky planes approved on a “fast track” and zero pushback from the FAA when they all come crashing down.

Ms. McConnel is the head of Transpo which oversees FAA.

Something stinks.

Washington Post: House Democrat says date for Mueller testimony has been proposed but not yet agreed

Notices that MTP Sunday no longer has the Boeing sponsorship of Endgame advert.

MTP, sponsored by the planes that crash and burn, bring you Endgame.

Even if the Democrats defeat Trump for the Presidency, how does that help them if the Republicans are still in control of the Senate? McConnell will block everything so the Democrats will lose any policy they try to implement.

CBS: Durbin: Trump gets "googly eyed" when talking to Putin

r136, there are 16 more Republican than Democratic Senators up for reelection.

The odds are good that the Senate will flip.

We need to make it so, r138. We cannot leave anything to chance or "the odds".

The time to start working on the Senate is now.

R138- If the Senate flips and the Democrats keep the House, then the Democrats don't have to push for impeachment now. Gather all the evidence, put it out there for the public to see. Get Mueller on record in a public hearing. Make sure every single thing that Trump has done is made public - unless it's classified.

That way, even if he gets re=elected, the Democrats will have a much stronger impeachment case.

[quote]If the Senate flips and the Democrats keep the House, then the Democrats don't have to push for impeachment now.

Do you have a time machine?

What a suck-up.

I'm done with all of it. I was just watching the roundtable on This Week and fat fuck Christie, some British cuck and Johnathan Karl chuckling over Barr not coming to testify. Oh, those foolish Democrats! Trying to uphold the rule of law. What a bunch of morons!

A pox on all their houses. As soon as fuckface is out of office, he and everybody who defended him should be shunned from polite society.

Jonathan Swan is an Aussie cuck, R143. And stupid as dirt.

She's baaack!

Good, R145. He inspires no loyalty. I hope all those little groupies who worked for his campaign or were associated with him are paying attention. Michael Cohen is going to Prison Monday for something that Trump made him do. Trump is equally guilty, but Trump is free, coasting along, and he will hang anyone out to dry. He has no loyalty. So good for Omarosa. Keep talking spill it all.

BTW: With people dying because they cannot afford insulin, I just read about someone who takes a drug for Osteoporosis. My mother has it so I was familiar with the drug, even though my mother stopped taking her osteo drugs four years ago. Anyway, this drug requires you to get a shot twice a year, every 6 months. THe shot costs $45 with insurance co-pay. Except a few months ago the price went up to $1,900 dollars. That's with prescription drug insurance. So healthcare is very muchan issue for most people today,and it's a winning issue for the Democrats. They have to keep reminding people that they care about the issues that impact people's lives.

Bye-bye Michael Cohen. Thank you for sharing your dirt about Trump and Company.

However, take this big FUCK YOU with you, as you head to the can tomorrow, for being the smug, arrogant, gangster wannabe you were, before getting busted. No sympathy here. And don’t forget to bend at the knees when you’re picking up the soap in the shower.

Lawrence TRibe the Legal scholar who was pushing for impeachment linked to this article which has an alternative view. Tribe felt it had a lot of merit. It's worth reading. I happen to agree with it.

The new Russian troll tactic is to push for impeachment and become so demoralized by the Dems "inaction" you just give up. This isn't to say he should not be impeached- he should and would easily be. He has done enough to hang for treason. However, this is politics. Yes, as sucky as that is, we must win the war. Nancy knows what she is doing. The Dems know what they are doing. Democracy is messy and maintaining the rule of law is not sexy. There are things going on behind the scenes none of us know about. Will the Dems win? I don't have a clue. The GOP is being helped tremendously by Russia. As Bill Maher said, we want someone to make us feel like we are not being owned. So far, Nancy has owned this SOB. He knows it. He doesn't dare give her a nickname. That is telling......

[quote]The House Republicans didn’t give a fuck about impeaching Clinton, until it failed in the opposing party controlled Senate (sound familiar?) - and “winning” Bill Clinton was resoundingly re-elected.

*ahem*

The impeachment process went through late 1998 through 1999. Two years after Clinton's re-election. Monica was blowing Bill in the WH in late 1996, right after re-election.

The R's lost the House in 1998, but the next president elected in 2000 was...take a wild guess.

The House and Senate both went back to the Republicans in 2001.

This "Impeachment cost the Republicans" horseshit narrative really has to stop.

Make sure to W&W the OP. Trolls are triggered and want to make sure this thread goes away.

r150 The GOP never lost the House in 1998. The Dems gained seats but did not get a majority. And we won the 2000 election- it was also stolen.

[quote]And we won the 2000 election- it was also stolen.

Well, yeah. But the notion that the GOP was plunged into some kind of permanent minority status after Clinton's impeachment is ridiculous. The facts don't support that. Granted, they have to play dirty to win, but they've had decades of experience with that.

Exactly R149. And they are also interested in undermining Nancy...and using opportunistic Dems to do it. They will start a campaign to weaken Nancy because she is the key. We have to fight them but we have to be smart about it.

Partying in Mar-a-Lago

R133, here's an article about the corrupt head of the Department of Transportation (DOT), Mitch McConnell's wife and devotee of privatization like Betsy DeVos and other cabinet members who hold their positions in order to screw up the government and enrich themselves. I can't remember where I read it recently, but I saw an article that described how big corporations like Boeing have a lot more influence in the DOT now than before.

Having worked for both government run transit and airport systems, I know that both systems depend heavily on government funding. Airline profit margins are slim, transit systems mostly operate at a loss. To turn them over to privately run companies could spell disaster. It's one thing to privately own a limousine company because your market has money, but bus systems are heavily used by people with low income. They need government support.

Trump and his allies simply want to privatize everything so the rich can further profit at the expense of average Americans.

Yeah, I knew something was afoul when she was appointed. She seems like the type of leader who would gas her people if given the opportunity.

They should put Elaine Chao on a pike outside of the DOT building at the Navy Yard. Her cunt through the pike.

This has the potential to be a very interesting day.

Why, R159?

I'm not R159 but the Dow is bracing for a 500 point drop:

Iran? Really?

Talk about left field.

Have they run out of distractions?

Last week it was Venezuela.

Down the memory hole...

Contempt!

They really do seem to be floating his idea that Trump’s term will be extended or that he’ll never leave. It’s such dangerous, anti-democratic talk. Even in jest (you know they love to trot out the “He was just kidding!” line).

Dow’s already down 450 points and plunging further.

Nice work, Asshole-in-Chief.

I would say it's just Trump trolling, R164, if it weren't for the gushing reaction it's getting from morons like Jerry Falwell Jr.:

After the best week ever for @realDonaldTrump - no obstruction, no collusion, NYT admits @BarackObama did spy on his campaign, & the economy is soaring. I now support reparations-Trump should have 2 yrs added to his 1st term as pay back for time stolen by this corrupt failed coup

R164 Poor Dumpy's Presidency has been "stollen"!

R167 This tweet from Brian Klaas captures all the latest egregious "Presidential" typos

As much as I hate MIchael Cohen it makes me seethe that's he headed for prison for 3 years today while that Corrupt Cunt in the White House (the one who directed Cohen to do all his misdeeds) is STILL there squatting in OUR White House and nobody can seem to lay a glove on him.

I hate him so fuckin' much.

R169

I agree R169.

DL may have missed this. Breitbart, Sputnik, and other far right-wing/pro-Putty/DJT are raging because Alec Baldwin called Lindsey Graham Trump's "fluffer", exclaiming the indignant homophobia being displayed.

I will not link those websites, but will show Baldwin's tweet.

If I do say, "fluffer" sounds quite appropriate.

Wonder if "fluffer" will catch-on for Lindsey? We know Trump does adore nicknames.

Reuters: Trump's former lawyer Cohen takes shot at Trump, heads to prison

Cohen is in prison for something Trump requested him to do. Trump is President of the United States sitting in the White Hous. There is something wrong with this picture.

*House

Politico: Massachusetts Republicans move to protect Trump in 2020 primary

They made Cohen the fall guy. Not that he's not deserving of the punishment, but letting the entire DJT family clan escape from accountability is not justice. Just getting Trump's tax returns has been fruitless so far.

AP: Democrats set contempt vote for Barr over Mueller report

The Hill: rump hits Dems over stalled disaster relief, says Puerto Rico 'should be very happy'

Bill Barr has so many of those flesh-colored moles/skin tags all over his face. He is physically repulsive.

NYT David Brooks on PBS Hour said William Barr didn't lie, but spun in behalf of Trump.

No Brooks, it was both. Pelosi was right. Looks like the NYT has their share of DJT enablers.

The expression on Brooks' face in the post above reveals that, not only is he lying, he is firm in his conviction the the American people are stupid enough to buy his, Barr's, and Cheatolini 's lies.

David Brooks is an asshole.

David Brooks is an asshole.

It bears repeating r183

They're all a bunch of scumbags - Maxine Waters

A contempt vote on Wed....and the repercussions ?....A FINE.....REALLY ?!?!.....If the vote is approved, they should immediately sent the Sargent at Arms to ARREST HIS ASS.

This is exactly why they do what they do...no retaliation whatsoever....just talk, letters and a slap on the wrist. PATHETIC.

A letter had just come out by about 400 former prosecutors - both Republican and Democrat- saying that if Trump wasn't President, he'd be charged with obstruction.

Let's see him spin that into "12 Angry Democrats".

And now a brief cultural moment brought to you by the White House.....

Ivanka! Seriously, R188, I thought it was her.

Newsweek: Russia 'Has Leverage' Over Trump Foreign Policy Says ex-CIA Official

USA Today: Donald Trump slams Puerto Rico as Congress considers disaster aid bill

If Democrats were smart, they would put the horrendous damage and loss of life on an endless loop, with voiceovers done by Trump saying the inflammatory things he's said about the island.

Washington Post: Opinions | Trump’s new effort to muzzle Mueller gives away his big scam

Fortune: Trump Keeps Alluding to Extending His Presidency. Does He Mean It?

The idea of extending the conman's presidency is ludicrous. The fool does not belong in the White House at all.

Mueller was charged with investigating the Russian government's efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election. If trump were innocent he would have nothing to fear, he could have fully enjoyed his presidency with a supportive house and senate. Granted, he still would have done a lot of damage to our Democratic institutions but he could have done so with a clear conscience regarding Russia.

But no. Instead he acted guilty as sin as he smeared, disparaged, and obstructed in any way he could.

Guilty! Just not yet charged.

Obama deserved 6 extra years for having to put up with that birther bullshit.

Reuters: Ex-lawyer Cohen reports to prison, blasts Trump for 'injustice and lies'

The main thing is to make sure Trump isn't on the 2020 ballot. If he is, Russia will do a fix to make sure he wins.

I want Trump to live till he reaches 120 yo. I want him to spend the last 45 years of his life in prison. And I want to know how uglier (or maybe prettier actually) he is when his skin is porcelain white and freed from whatever agent orange he's using.

First thing, stop dismissing Trump's "crazy" rants. He has telegraphed every thing he has done, intends to do, or at least tried to do.. He is not kidding. What he suggests may be unbelievable and outrageous, even illegal, but believe him. He intends to try. Members of Congress and the NEws media need to get over themselves and stop dismissing him. He is serious. Take him seriously.

Nunes Smarter Cow replies to Graham.

See comments.

Does Miz Lindsey EVER come u for air from tRump's button mushroom cock?

Then Bill Clinton deserves 8 more years.

Then Obama deserves at least 4 more years.

Then Obama deserves at least one SC pick.

Hillary deserves her full term plus a SC pick.

GOP- traitors to the core.

Re: R194 article. Hillary Clinton also alluded to thinking Trump might not leave office if not re-elected in 2020. also the man who ghost wrote The Art of Deal Tony -----. Mnuchin is saying Nyet to turning over Trump tax returns. We are going into a really bad phase. We were told it would get worse before it gets better. What can the Democrats do next to save democracy? I trust Pelosi and others but I am getting impatient.

I do NOT 100% trust Mueller. He should have been stronger in his report re: crimes of obstruction and he could have done better with the conspiracy with Russia. There is much to criticize him on. Hopefully, he will testify and be honest. But after Rosenstein and Barr, I don't trust any GOP asshole.

R200- How would he intend to stay as President if he loses? He can't stop the winner from being sworn in. If he refuses to leave the WH, the military would remove him- drag him out the same way that Assange was dragged out.

[quote] If he refuses to leave the WH, the military would remove him- drag him out the same way that Assange was dragged out.

Pics please.

Tiger Woods is getting the Medal of Freedom? For what? A good golfing career??

r207, have you seen the dick pix his girlfriend took?

Trump admires a big dicked adulterer.

Something he will never be.

Didn't Tiger let Dotard win a few rounds?

No, R207, for being a cheater and surviving an attack by a raging woman. That's something that trump can appreciate.

r211 Well, as long as it benefits them. Yes, China, are you listening????????

CNN is covering the Tiger Woods ceremony. MSNBC is not. What the fuck CNN? Really? A fucking scandalous golfer? And what kind of a name is Tiger? Always hated that name. I’m done.

That just shows you what a dirtbag Tiger is. There’s been so much criticism, if he was a decent person he would refuse it.

Medal of Honor for.....??????????

Well, that medal just became a joke.

R205 Trump brags that he has the full support of the military and police officers. I'm sure he does and his vicious base who are armed with long guns,etc. and a belief that Trump was ordained by God to lead the country and for sure border control are all in with Trump. How did Hitler rise and stay in power? Don't think it can't happen here because it certainly can. He already has the Russkies on his side and the (In)justice Department.on his side. I hope I'm just being hyperbolic.

Game-changer:

Can the President Be Indicted? A Long-Hidden Legal Memo Says Yes

So now we are going to go after Iran? They better be careful what they wish for. Iran has the potential to fuck us and the ME up like never before.

He must be removed NOW.

Conservatives, elected and not, must step up and not after they have gotten all their judges. They are in a mad frenzy to get their judges in. This is how corrupt they are.

Dems will do and are doing a lot but when one party is 99.9% corrupt to the bone, the work will not be done overnight.

Why should we worry about judges in this land of justice and freedom for all? Doesn't the law stand for itself?

BWAHAHAHAHA....just kidding.

What happened to Anderson Cooper’s eyebrows!? I don’t see them tonight. And he looks like he had somewhat of a rough weekend.

The Hill: FBI releases heavily redacted tips from public on Kavanaugh nomination

Washington Post: Mnuchin rejects Democrats’ demand to hand over Trump’s tax returns, all but ensuring legal battle

Getting in the mood to host Miss Lindzee for golf.

Yes, R200 and R216, he just keeps pushing the envelope. Time after time, it's been a case of nobody believing he would do this or that ... yet here we are. Frogs in a pot and all that.

[quote]And for sure border control are all in with Trump.

If he gets that wall, it's going to keep people in as well as out.

No doubt there are some coppers and some ex military guys who like Trump. And he does have some crazy militia groups. But he really doesn't have the kind of support he thinks he has. The reason some of the lunatics are emboldened is becuase there is no official opposition to him. The Democrats need to step up their game. No more slow moving. Start issuing warrants for a rrests. Turn up the heat, and for fuck's sake lets go after McConnell and start hyping the Mueller report. Every damned day.

After witnessing this exhausting, tug of war shit storm between Congress and the DOJ, I think we may need to break the DOJ away from the Executive Branch (Trump), and make it a 4th separate and equal branch of government. I mean, at this point, I see two foxes watching the hen house.

Are my thoughts far-fetched, ridiculous?

[quote]Time after time, it's been a case of nobody believing he would do this or that ... yet here we are. Frogs in a pot and all that.

But ImPeACHmeNt iS ofF tHe TaBle!!!

At what point will these people in Washington take off the kid gloves and deal with this man? I still don't understand why Nancy would even think that an election that occurs would be fair at this point! He will stop at NOTHING!

r230 Are you new or trolling? Nancy carefully worded her statement and did not, I repeat, did not take impeachment off the table. Only trolls think so.

Don't turn on the only party who actually has the best interests of us on its agenda.

Please keep something in mind. There was a tradition or perhaps a certain "etiquette" to political disagreements, and certain norms of behavior we assumed about our politicians no matter how vile they were. Trump has upended all of that, he's broken rules and done and said things no one ever got away with before. Embracing and encouraging racial divisions, embracing White Nationalists, paying off porn stars and getting recorded talking about grabbing a woman "by the pussy" and of course weakening our economy with trade and tariff wars, embracing outrageous tax cuts for the wealthy. Hi

His immigration policies are a disaster, ICE are a gang of thugs, Detention centers are deplorable, locking kids in cages, lying repeatedly brazenly, changing his story from one hour to the next, and blatantly disregarding the "home work" required to have productive diplomatic meetings with allies, and trade partners, refusing to share any information or notes about private meetings with North Korea or Russia, etc.

And of course an obvious lack of curiosity, and a lack of basic competency when it comes to understanding the legislative process and government. He ignores the Constitution, ignores laws, rules and regulations with abandon. And through out all of this, the Media while reporting on his tweets, and talking about his excesses have not, IMO, placed them in their proper context. THis man is unfit, he is dangerous, and he is corrupt. He does not belong as the head of our government and the media has not covered him from that perspective.

There is no reason why the public is as ignorant as they are, and the Republican Party has been reduced to a third party status cult and Trump's base has diminished, yet the media would have us believe things are stronger than they appear. Do not let them get away with normalizing him as they have been doing. Raise hell ad insist that they do some damn reporting. Why the fuck have we not seen reports of the results of Trump actively sabotaging the ACA, and people dying because they can't afford prescriptions for insulin? We need to focus and pressure the media to do a better job.

I suppose the proper, Presidential thing for Trump to do would be to get oral sex from interns, commit perjury, and launch military attacks to divert attention from his legal problems. 20 years ago, the Democrats were happy to normallize turning the White House into Animal House and breaking the law. Never had a President behaved like this on such a scale. Now all of the sudden Democrats claim to want etiquette and dignity in public discourse and in DC? They threw away any claims to them to save Bill Clinton's ass and don't have a leg to stand on anymore.

Judging by the Sunday morning shows a few days ago the Media has now decided, this is all just good fun. Slipping into fascism is fun and kinda funny. If anyone tries to stop Trump and his asshole supporters from sending this country into fascism, they are just not fun and icky.

r232 Bravo! Well said in every way.

The media loves to act like this election, right now, is a squeaker. No, it isn't. This bitch has never been above 50%. He hovers around 38-44% which, if Obama were President, they would endlessly go on about how unpopular he is and how no incumbent can win with such approvals/disapprovals. With this bitch? They continually say how POPULAR he is- among the fucking ever shrinking cult base of the GOP.

r234 Yes, they love their "bothsiderisms" and playing devil's advocate. Liberal? Only socially. They are corporate owned and operated.

My only argument with what you are saying r232 is that I think you might think that the average American gives a shit. the average American is fine with brutality and stupidity and lawlessness as long as it benefits the average American. Please don't get that wrong.

With the economy doing so well (he juiced it with tax cuts that are destroying our deficit/debt) why isn't the average person doing much better? We have had 10+ years of a strong economy yet most people are still barely able to move but a rung up (maybe) the ladder when at any other time we would have seen a huge shift for a lot of us. Except, we are in an endless sequel to the same movie we all know the ending to.

We are essentially running up our spending on the old credit card (deficit/debt) and things look good but are not sound unlike under the Obama economy where things were steadily moving up and our finances were on solid ground.

this economy is, by design, of by and for the Rich, exclusively. It's why everyone still pretty much hates Trump even as everyone keeps babbling happily about the great economy on the TeeVee.

Anderson and Kirsten Powers totally handed that GOP buffoon Steve Cortez his ass tonight. Cortez said he believed Trump when he claimed he was the victim of an “attempted coup.” Kirsten said “I think Webster’s Dictionary would disagree with you as to the definition of what a ‘coup’ is.” And then he got big-time screwed when he tried to pretend he didn’t know that Trump was referring to slavery as a joke in his tweet mentioning “reparations.”

R232 Kudos and well written. Thank you. And to R239 What the fuck! CNN is still having that tubby moron Steve Cortez still on?! He's as full of shit as a Christmas Goose. I stopped watching CNN because its dumbed everything down. By the way Jeff Zukor is very good friends with Trump. Hope I got the name right of the head of the CNN news.

CNN reporting that Melania's former friend and head of the Inauguration parties did NOT receive the $26M and feels "thrown under the bus."

So just where did all that money go?

Oh, I hope the dumb fucker put it straight in some bank account trackable to him and his fucking kids, R241. Straight up theft. A crime easily understandable by even the biggest dolt on the streets of America.

"Oh, we were just keeping it safe. Ya see, the friend of Melania's has a bad purse buying habit and we were trying to save her from buying $24 million worth of purses. And shoes. She loves shoes, too! Doesn't she Melania?"

"Read my jacket, assholes."

I hope they vote in the House to place Barr in contempt this week, Mnuchen too.

I agree, R243. The House has to be seen to be doing every thing in its power to exact accountability from this administration, even as it introduces bills about healthcare and infrastructure, and the environment. King Trump has issued his edict that no one in his administration will respond to ANY requests from the House. None. The House must take him to court, and no, it will not take years, or even months.

Trump believes this is like all the lawsuits he stalled in NY and Florida. It isn't. I remember studying the Watergate hearings, when Nixon tried to block Congress. Those federal courts would expedite matters and rulings would come down in a matter of weeks. because the courts regarded the business of governing as serious, and important and appreciated the urgency of making people accountable.

And Chief Justice Roberts is no friend of Trump. He will follow the Law. If Trump appeals to the Supremes, he will get a shock, because the new "swing vote" on the Court is Roberts. But the bottom line is we cannot afford 4 more years of Trump. We need him out. So we have to vote in overwhelming numbers in 2020. And we absolutely have to include the state legislatures too because they make the laws that suppress voting and gerrymandering. They also have been busy reversing every progressive initiative Democrats have enacted. We have to bury this cult mentality, and destroy this iteration of the so called Republican Party. Politics is war.

R244 Truth!

Dow dropped 224 points so far ...

McTurtle plans to declare Mueller investigation is over at 10:00 am today. Thus, the Republican majority Senate will no longer have committee hearings per the DJT/Russia/obstruction matter.

House, it's up to you to support the Constitution and ultimately, to save democracy.

I think Pelosi is playing the long game with impeachment but she has to be careful. It has to be timed exactly. You want to have all of the witnesses in front of the committees 24/7 talking constantly about all the horrible things Trump, his family and friends have done BUT you can't let the pressure that has built right now wane. It's a tightrope she has to walk.

A 1924 law (linked in article) stipulates that the Treasury Secretary “shall furnish” such records [Trump's tax returns] to congressional committees.

Mnuchin maintained that the request served no “legitimate legislative purpose.”

LIAR!

Is this being pursued???

Washington Post: Mnuchin rejects Democrats’ demand to hand over Trump’s tax returns, all but ensuring legal battle

AP: FBI chief Wray breaks with Barr on use of term 'spying'

Mnuchin is giving himself a choice where no choice exists.

But, what will be done about it?

NBC: McConnell demands end to 'Groundhog Day spectacle' of ongoing Trump investigations

R254 Of course he does, the lying, cheating hypocrite.

[quote]But, what will be done about it?

Based on the last two years, nothing.

[quote]Mnuchin is giving himself a choice where no choice exists.

A choice does exist... he just gave himself one!

NBC News: FBI Director Christopher Wray says he knows of no illegal surveillance of any of the 2016 campaigns, in his testimony to Congress.

When asked about the use of the term "spying" used by AG Barr, he says that's not the term he would use.

Here is what I have trouble with.

The law says that Mnuchin is supposed to comply, he doesn't.

The law supposedly says we cannot indict a sitting President? Why should Dems comply?

And you know damn well, if this were Hillary, Rethugs would have indicted on overdue Library books within weeks of her getting sworn in.

ABC: White House to instruct Don McGahn not to comply with a subpoena from House Dems for documents related to special counsel probe, according to press secretary Sarah Sanders. “I don’t anticipate that that takes place,” Sanders said.

I heard Mitch McDonnell has announced the end of Brexit, too.

CNN: Secretary of State Mike Pompeo abruptly canceled a scheduled trip to Germany, where he was planning to meet with Chancellor Angela Merkel "due to pressing issues," the State Department said early Tuesday.

No specific reason was given for the cancellation. The press pool traveling with Pompeo has not been told where they are going next, and have been warned they may not be able to report from the country they are going to until after their departure.

Not to comply with a subpoena?? Throw these fuckers in jail. This is absolutely bullshit

ABC: WH to instruct former counsel Don McGahn not to comply with congressional subpoena

[quote]Not to comply with a subpoena?? Throw these fuckers in jail. This is absolutely bullshit

They won't because Democrats are too often concerned with the optics and what the minority thinks.

You have to give it to Rethugs, they could give two shits what anyone thinks. They'd wrap it up in a flag and scream that they're being patriots by having everyone arrested... and it works.

Reuters: Explainer: How hard-hitting are U.S. Congress subpoenas, contempt citations?

R230 is certainly the "iPeachMent is oFf the tAble" troll. Blocked.

WH claims "executive privilege" to prevent McGahn from testifying or turning over documents.

First of all "Executive Privilege " has been waived. McGahn has already testified to the Special Counsel, and to a grand jury. Trump has made public statements, etc., etc., so nice try, guys. Second, as to Mnuchin, he may legitimately feel there is "no legitimate legislative reason" for Congress to demand the Tax documents. And he might even be right. (He isn't.) But that has nothing to do with the Law. The Law say you "Shall..." Period. No justification is necessary. No reason is necessary. It's very clear, simple language. So Mnuchin ought to be looking at fines, jail and complete public humiliation. And so should the head of the IRS who will definitely fuck himself up by being on the Trump bandwagon.

We know that, Niel Katyal knows that and it begs the question WHY would McGahn go along with it?

Does Trump have Kompromat one every fucking person he appointed?

Tarot reading on Mnuchin & Trump's taxes.

As if anyone, even Mitch, can declare this is all over.

Repugs led by Ted Cruz with a plan to abolish CFPB. CONSUMER Financial PROTECTION Bureau. So basically protects those hillbillies in trailers who love voting in these idiots who get billionaires rich.

So Mitch McConnell is the "end of thread" DL troll insisting that the thread discussion shall now stop?

Will that kind of action get the people on the street to rally in order to re-open "the thread"?

this one of Rainbow's Best!

God, Randy you still can't get it through your head that nobody cares about your self promo.

We LOVE Randy!

[quote]The law supposedly says we cannot indict a sitting President?

No, there isn't a law that says that.

Only Dems care about laws and protocol. The Republicans don't give a shit to uphold either when it gets in the way of their greed for money and power.

....Speaks The Huckster

Is Charles Koch making big donations to Utah State, George Mason, Florida State, and perhaps others, to turn these schools into right-wing mouthpieces?

Robert & Rebekah Mercer have their ongoing projects.

Rep. John Lewis: In a recent interview with Rolling Stone, Lewis admitted he was less hopeful now than he was during the Civil Rights Movement.

“I hate to say it, but I think we’re in deep trouble,” Lewis told Rolling Stone’s Jamil Smith.

CNN: Nancy Pelosi: 'Trump is goading us to impeach him'

Reuters: Top Democrat in U.S. Senate wants hearings before any impeachment effort

r276 I'm not Randy.

Pete Buttigieg went where other Democrats would not go. He can't imagine God would be a Republican.

R287 What's that sound? Ah yes. Rethuglicans' heads exploding!

R284 For the love of all things that are good, please do something Nancy!

Dump continues to obstruct justice by not complying with subpoenas!

R284 Then, indulge him, Pelosi! If you don't discipline a disrespectful man child, you then he will learn manners on his own?

Will some of you calm your tits? Nancy knows what the fuck she is doing. I realize you all, we all want, some immediate, satisfying conclusion but this isn't how it's going to end. At least I don't think so. We have zero rational GOPers to help us out. NONE. This is truly unprecedented territory. Why do you think they wanted all those right wing judges?????

This will take much more than Nancy and the Dems stopping them but trust this, they are setting it up.

What would the next move be? I’m not asking that sarcastically—I’m interested to know what the strategy should be. I don’t necessarily mean arrests, although I wouldn’t mind them! I am honestly struggling with that myself—my feeling is that it’s crucial to get the unredacted Mueller report. I also feel that it’s imperative that people who ignore subpoenas are indicted/arrested. Just indicting them and finding them guilty could cause them to lose their license to practice law. I’m curious to know what others think.

Rosie

JUST IN: House Democrats threaten to withhold salaries of Trump officials that block probe interviews

They should also cancel their health insurance. Let them see what it's like to worry about paying medical bills.

NBC: Democrats' constitutional clash with Trump ramps up

Washington Post: The legal argument behind Mnuchin’s refusal to give Congress Trump’s tax returns

R294 Finally showing some teeth! But I will only be happy when they actually start biting. These GOP thugs have been asking for it for two years!

Losing their salaries might not be a big deal for some of them, but losing their health care might. Also, can they freeze any of their bank accounts? Money seems to be the only thing they care about, so hit them in the pocketbook. If they can't access their money, they risk losing their home or homes and no more fancy lunches.

Maybe Deutsche bank will give them a loan.

Breaking...The NY Times has ten years of Trump’s tax figures...

R298 and R294 - I think that freezing their finances is truly the only way that you are going to get movement. I know that we will freeze the assets of foreigners, but is this even possible?

R299 Figures? Not the returns themselves?

He's got billionaires in his cabinet. Mnuchin is one. He doesn't give a fuck about his healthcare or his salary. Now McGahn is another matter. McGahn needs to good will of the Republican party. He needs the goodwill of the Senators, donors, etc. So they can put heavy pressure on him not to testify. He will have to weigh the costs and the benefits of cooperation, and he will have to find a compelling legal justification for him testifying in front of the House.

R299 I don't trust the NY Times. They have been infested with Trump apologists.

UGH. They're all OLD returns:

The data — printouts from Mr. Trump’s official Internal Revenue Service tax transcripts, with the figures from his federal tax form, the 1040, for the years 1985 to 1994 — represents the fullest and most detailed look to date at the president’s taxes, information he has kept from public view.

The stammering and stuttering Chris Matthews just reporting this tax news now.

They still spell out that he lost over 1 billion over the years with his failed businesses. What a fucking loser.

^^^^^^^^

Yes, over a billion dollars. Ha! Trumps hair is smoldering right now, and awaiting a combustion of epic proportions.

He can only get us a great economy through juicing it with tax cuts that are murdering our deficit/debt. The deficit/debt should not be rising during a booming economy where unemployment is around 3.6%. The GOP could fuck up a one car funeral.

This is economic insanity that will not end well.

Be to Even More Bestiest!

I don’t want to hear one more word out of that whore’s mouth.

The IRS tax transcripts that the NYTimes has obtained are believed to be extremely accurate, and show that (a) people who have access to Trump's tax information are starting to rat him out and (b) he lost more money than virtually any other high-income individual taxpayer during the time in question. He's a huge loser or a huge tax fraud -- or, in all likelihood, both.

Remember the debate...he's "too smart" to pay taxes!

Melania can talk? I didn't know you could talk with 10 dicks shoved in her whore mouth. Hmmmm

One year he had mystery “interest income” of over $50 million dollars. No explanation as to where it came from.

According to Matthews, he lost more money in that period than anyone else in the US. Bwahahahahaha!!!!

There’s your stable genius, America! Literally, the nation's biggest loser.

Most of them are attorneys. Go after their law licences. There's a way to do this. Get them disbarred. Start with Barr, McGahn, Rosenstein, etc.

I bet it's fraud. Oh, yeah he lost money, but he also committed Tax Fraud.

Mnuchin's history with the 2008 foreclosures and financial crisis. Mnuchin's bank was #2 in amounts for bailouts.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump's businesses lost a total of more than $1 billion from 1985 to 1994, according to the New York Times, which said it obtained printouts from Trump's official Internal Revenue Service tax transcripts.

The newspaper said Trump posted losses in excess of $250 million in both 1990 and 1991, which appeared to be more than double any other individual U.S. taxpayer, based on IRS data.

Trump lost so much money that he was able to avoid paying income taxes for eight of the 10 years, the Times said.

The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Trump, a real estate magnate who turned over the running of his businesses to his sons after his election in 2016, touted his business acumen and negotiating skills on the campaign trail.

Trump broke with a decades-old precedent by refusing to release his tax returns as a presidential candidate in 2016 or since being elected, saying he could not do so while his taxes were being audited.

Don’t forget to WW since the Russian Trolls keeping greying out this thread

“The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.” LoL.

Trump is probably vomiting up blood right now. I hope this is making him stroke out tonight.

I want this story to blow up. I mean imagine if any other President had a story like this come out. It would be ALL the news would be talking about for a week at least

Get it trending on Twitter and the fat fuck will have an epic meltdown!

Ooo! I have a feeling this is another crack in the dam. It can't take much more before the whole thing bursts open and drowns every trumptards.

There could be two angles to this story. One is he's a horrible businessman because of the reported losses. The other is the reported losses are conjured up to evade taxes.

Hope they find more recent returns.

I have a feeling the more recent returns won't be revealed yet as they're involved in 1 or more of the investigations spun off from Mueller's probe

If Mueller is still involved with related investigations at the DoJ, Barr will block him from appearing.

Kellyanne is working on spin and deflection to yap about tomorrow in front of the WH. Then CNN's Jake Tapper will have her on his show later, letting her filibuster and lie.

The beauty of this whole thing is witnessing his death by 1000 cuts. How the fuck does this guy sleep at night? I’m serious. Could it be that his psychological and personal shortcomings can act as super defense shield? Any normal person would be in bed, curled up in the fetal position, while sucking their thumb in darkness.

I’m so fucking over Jake Tapper, pandering to these White House assholes.

Anybody else noticing he’s looking older and more tired lately? He’s still somewhat handsome, but he’s got some deep lines starting to run through that pouty puss of his.

He's a malignant narcissist, r330.

It's all someone else's fault. Never his.

He paid not a penny in taxes eight of those 10 years ... yet he lived in the lap of luxury. Disgusting. Though his base will proclaim him a genius for it.

R332 - I guess you’re right. I’ve read the definition in several different places, and Trump fits it to a T.

It just boggles my mind. Every single fucking day is another egregious revelation about his antics.

In any event, I am loving the way this menace is slowly going down.

R330

The media and his base will spin this away as being old news. I hope the next ten years come out tomorrow.

And, with Mattis gone, we have Pompeo and Bolton running our military at this point because no Acting Defense Secretary is going to do anything to stop him from going to war with Iran. Now this news that Pompeo had to cancel on Germany to head to parts unknown for god knows what. Let's hope the Joint Chiefs still have some say but I think we're going to war with Iran in the next few days.

R335 Apparently Pompeo went to Iraq, because of the tensions in Iran.

lmfao Laura Ingraham opens her show talking about "the border crisis" and how "the mainstream media is ignoring it". NO mention of this bombshell as we would predict

so the deplorables who only get their news from Fox will not see or hear this story unless they are checking their local news stations for the weather and it happens to come on around the same time

Most of those huge losses were due to the first four bankruptcies for his casino and the Plaza....he had two more after. My guess is he declared the debt in bankruptcy which were corporations, then claimed it again on his personal tax returns. Thats his scam....and rest assured, he pulled his share of money out before stiffing vendors and other creditors. As evidenced by previous knowledge about his taxes and financial dealings, nothing is on the up and up. He is terrified someone will piece it all together.

If I woke up from a coma and you told me the idiot from The Apprentice was President I.........

Where are the tweets? Is he still chowing down on those Happy Meals?

this makes me despise Mark Burnett even more for allowing this fucking piece of shit to continue the illusion of being a super successful businessman

And now, a musical interlude.

Breaking: Barr asserting executive privilege will not hand over Mueller report and will not appear

Meanwhile in Texas, they had a storm drop 7.5 inches of rain in 30 minutes south of Houston. What the &^%&^$^%$^% is going on? Parts of the Houston area have received 14-15 inches of rain in a matter of hours. If we didn't have this massive cancer in the WH we may could get shit done on climate change and other huge matters. Instead, it is a non-stop shitshow. The worst soap opera ever.

Walter Shaub saying they might get away with it but more likely than not it's just another delay tactic

April Ryan saying a source just told her the WH will not budge and this could end up int he Supreme Court

Sadly R344 we did not sign an Arctic accord because we did not like the language discussing climate change. Pompeo commented the melting of the ice cap might be good because it will open up new sea routes... Of course, this is the man that smirked when acknowledging the NK negotiators he worked with had since been executed.

r346 Did he mention the new sea routes through FL and Kansas?

R344, if you're really asking, it's because we've shifted the climate. We no longer have four seasons in the US for the most part. We have two seasons now, wet and dry. Eventually, the only climate that will grow the crops that feed the country will have shifted to the Canadian border and further north. One little problem, there is no topsoil there to grow crops because the last ice age pushed it all to the cornbelt and wheatbelt of America. But, don't worry, when the next ice age comes after we succeed in shutting down the warm water current in the North Atlantic, we'll all be dead anyway. Actually, we'll all be trying to migrate south. I hope Mexico builds a wall then.

I know there's a metric shitton of stuff breaking in the news right now, but worth noting that the NY Senate is about to approve legislation allowing them to pass Trumpito's NYS tax returns to Congressional committees.

Also, Jill Wine Banks has been saying she's convinced that court battles over testimony and documents could be resolved much more quickly than people are suggesting. She was an attorney on Watergate, so she knows of what she speaks.

r348 Thank you for that response. Very enlightening and quite frightening.

Love Jill and Barbara and Joyce!!! Smartest Ladies on tv

Don't know if this is possible but someone suggested that the House could retaliate by refusing to fund the fuel for Air Force One.

With the talk of the house not funding salaries and what R352 mentioned, would that even make a difference? The house authorizes funding, but doesn't another agency provide the actual funds and won't they most likely defy the orders like everyone else seems to be?

Where did the inauguration money go?

What about the 12 investigations.

Mueller will testify?

This is a huge crisis.

This is all SO FUCKING EXHAUSTING. Aren't the deplorables fed up by now? I know they'll never admit it, but Jesus, don't we all just want Trump to go away and never be heard from or spoken of ever again. It just never ends.

At this point I don't even care if he's prosecuted, or anybody in his crime family syndicate. I just never want to hear about him (or them) again in my life.

R355 no...the deplorables don't want him to leave. They view every scandal that emerges as "an attack on the duly elected best President ever" and that "it's all fake news". Most of them won't even know about as they're watching Fox

R349 - “Also, Jill Wine Banks has been saying she's convinced that court battles over testimony and documents could be resolved much more quickly than people are suggesting. She was an attorney on Watergate, so she knows of what she speaks.”

Thank you for posting what Jill Wine Banks said about the length of these inevitable court battles, because, although I respect the opinions of CNN’s chief legal correspondent, Jeffrey Toobin, I can’t listen to him anymore. He keeps advising that it could take months and months to resolve these legal battles.

R357 Jeffrey Toobin! I want to say, I've really cut down on my CNN watching. I get frustrated for a lot of the same reasons. But still, I tune in for Toobin. His dry wit and sarcastic facial expressions still crack me up. One of my favorite clips was when he unofficially emceed the grudge match that took place between MIchael Avenatti and the lawyer who represented MIchael Cohen for about 5 seconds. Anyone remember that? The one where Avenatti kept yelling, "Thug! Thug! Thug!"

Oh.. Avenatti... why'd you have to end up being such a scumbag?? Talk about disappointment!

At least six Agriculture Department economists quit on a single day in April after claiming that the administration was retaliating against them for publishing reports showing that President Trump’s tariffs have hurt farmers, according to a Politico report.

Trump tryingto hide reality:

The Economic Research Service, the USDA’s research arm, has drawn the ire of the administration and Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue after publishing reports showing that farmers are being harmed by Trump’s trade wars as well as the Republican tax overhaul, current and former employees told Politico.

The reports shone a light on how Trump’s tariffs have led to a decline in farm income, which the economists noted has already fallen by 50 percent since 2013. Another report showed that Republican tax cuts only benefited the wealthiest farmers.

fuck this country is turning more and more into a banana republic rather than a federal one

^^^^^^^^^^

Womp-Womp-Waaa. My thoughts and prayers. Elections have consequences.

This led on Rachel last night. Apparently the pool boy story is true.

[quote]This led on Rachel last night. Apparently the pool boy story is true.

Rick Wilson said he heard about this several weeks ago ... and "it's just gonna get so much better."

Last couple weeks Trump has floated the idea of staying in office an extra two years. If we keep up the pressure he may decide to resign . I know. "I have a dream..."

So the “racy” photos of Falwell Jr. are him and the pool boy fucking? Is he “presenting hole”? As soon as this pool boy character emerged, I knew they had been doing it.

NYMag: Keeping Trump’s Tax Returns Secret Is an Insanely Huge Security Risk

Keeping Trump’s tax returns private is not like keeping Mitt Romney’s tax returns private. This is a man who was handed hundreds of millions of dollars, flushed it down the toilet, and was desperate to maintain his image of wealth and success. You couldn’t invent a more inviting target for a foreign intelligence service to manipulate.

There’s no public interest in discovering who is paying the mobbed-up, money-hemorrhaging failed casino operator whose sons have described him as reliant on Russian financing? Do Republicans believe Trump’s financial secrets contain no signs of serious corruption or vulnerability to leverage by a hostile power? Or would they rather not know?

I am thinking threesome with the wife and pool boy, but what do I know.

Could've been a cuckold sitution of either him or his wife watching (or filming / taking pictures?) while the other one gets fucked by the pool boy. You know these self rightheous, religious right wings have some kinky bedroom habits.

[quote] he lost over 1 billion over the years

Actually, this is how real estate tycoons do business. They buy/build a building. They leverage it to the max. They drain the cash from those loans into their own accounts. The interest from those loans far exceeds the amount of rent they collect, which generate paper losses. They assume their %age share of those losses and offset any income they have for the year. Therefore, they pay little to no taxes. Any losses not used that year are carried over to future years.

Completely legal. Completely amoral.

I love the spin on the Falwell story that the pictures are the type of private photos "between a husband and wife" - like he and the Mrs. were taking some candid shots of their private love making when in fact it's Falwell with the pool boy.

R370

Isn't this a rather new development that Cohen revealed that he did have other clients (Falwell) than Trump, Hannity, and the Trump donor who demanded his mistress to get an abortion?

Mnuchin refuses to release taxes due to the fact that he doesn't think they serve a legislative purpose. Since when does the Treasury Secretary get to decide what has a legislative purpose? Is that determination made by the legislature. Start holding people in contempt. Start withholding people's salaries. Start fining people. Start making them hire lawyers. Go to the lowest level of government employee who would have access and subpoena them. Stop paying for fuel for Air Force One unless travel is a national emergency. Start declaring that Trumps trips to Mira Largo have no presidential purpose. Hopefully, the demos are in the game to make life better for the common people. Start using the same dirty tactics to get results. Dirty tricks to save Health Care vs Dirty tricks to give billionaires a tax break.

Did Dump tweet anything at all, even the useless "thoughts and prayers", about the Colorado STEM school shooting that left 1 dead and 8 gravely injured?

R372 Cohen supposedly did this while he was employed by Trump. Which makes it fall into the same campaign fraud category as paying off a hooker since Falwell endorsed Trump. Could be even worse since there is a definite quid pro quo.

Miss Barr? You in contempt, henny.

It all just keeps crumbling down.

The house is being seated now for the vote. I see that fucking smug-slob Gym Jordan sitting there with no jacket; again.... If there was ever a face that should make contact with a swinging baseball bat, it’s his.

I don’t get why Trump just won’t suddenly say “Fuck THIS” and resign so he can spend his remaining years playing golf.

r379. Two words: Vladimir Putin.

Trump just exerted executive privilege over the unredacted report. Jesus Christ.

President Trump asserted executive privilege on Wednesday in an effort to shield hidden portions of Robert S. Mueller III’s unredacted report and the evidence he collected from Congress.

The assertion, Mr. Trump’s first use of the secrecy powers as president, came as the House Judiciary Committee is expected to vote Wednesday morning to recommend the House of Representatives hold Attorney General William P. Barr in contempt of Congress for defying a subpoena for the same material.

“This is to advise you that the president has asserted executive privilege over the entirety of the subpoenaed materials,” a Justice Department official, Stephen E. Boyd, wrote Wednesday morning, referencing not only the Mueller report but the underlying evidence that House Democrats are seeking.

He would also be immediately indicted for crimes in NYC. The presidency is the only thing protecting him.

Not sure why you would claim executive privilege over a document you say completely exonerates you, but I guess I'm not as smart as the guy who managed to lose money operating a casino.

R382 Okay, I know we've been here many times before, but this is now an impeachable offense. It's clear obstruction of justice.

Why would Barr think he could get away with this, and doesn't he know trump will through him under the bus in a heartbeat?

Can’t they call Mueller in immediately to testify

verbal scissoring

Meghan McCain is disappointed in Lindsey.

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This is absolutely outrageous. This fucking crook is getting away with this shit is unbelievable

Nancy looks like she is aging rapidly. I think this is taking a big toll on her......................

r392, Maybe she is ... concerned?

So can they still vote to hold barr in contempt if executive privilege is being cited???

R394, HELL. YES.

Nancy probably isn't getting a lot of sleep. But I hope Trump is getting even less sleep. LOL!

Congress is entitled to that report. They need to go to court and sue him. Ask the court to fast track it in the interest of National Security. Also, government ought to be taken seriously, and so should the rules. They're on solid ground. Trump is also trying to stop Mueller and McGahn from testifying

R394, yes. Barr cannot ignore the subpoena. He can show up and claim privilege, but he has to show up.

Or what, R396? What are they going to do to him?

Look, guys, As we continue to press this corrupt piece of shit and his minions for information, they will fight us. Expect it. They will use legal tricks, media smears, and anything else they can get away with. But that is to be expected. They cannot stop us, and they cannot turn us around. So keep pressuring members of Congress and working to end voter suppression in your state. Fight for ballot security and support groups who are in this fight with us. YOu know how to use the internet so figure it out.

R393 R393 R394 short troll glips

Barr will drag it out and then show up and answer all questions with "I don't recall / executive privilege / I don't understand the question"

[quote]Barr cannot ignore the subpoena.

Of course he can. And will. Eric Holder ignored the subpoena he got from vindictive House Repugs.

R392 add glip

Vox:

Here’s how this will work on a practical level: If the full House passes the contempt resolution, Pelosi will issue the citation for Barr to be held in contempt. She’ll pass that citation along to the US Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia or the DOJ. Either the US attorney or the Department of Justice will likely say they don’t plan to move forward with prosecuting Barr.

That would be the end of the matter, unless Democrats pass a separate resolution to authorize going to court with Barr and the Trump administration over the Mueller report, and getting the courts to decide their subpoena request and contempt citation.

Or they can start withholding funding to Barr and the rest of the obstructionists.

[quote]Or they can start withholding funding to Barr and the rest of the obstructionists.

And the administration will simply divert discretionary funding from somewhere else to cover it.

Tom Nichols:

People who wanted to have forty years of Benghazi hearings and supported a candidate who led chants to lock up his opponent now have the vapors because Congress is timidly asserting even *one* of its actual powers as the Article I institution.

They’re terrified out of their minds that report is going to be seen. How can a government report be denied being seen by the government? Executive privilege?? What happens now?

Whatever is in it, it must be beyond disastrous for Trump. No innocent man acts like this.

John Schindler:

Please allow me to interrupt our Constitutional crisis in progress to inform you that the Trump WH, which has absolutely no idea what it's doing, is getting dangerously close to stumbling into a no-kidding war with Iran.

Washington Post: Pelosi says Trump is ‘becoming self-impeachable’

What does “self-impeachable” mean?

Politico: Trump has busy night on Twitter, but skips school shooting

R408 No doubt in my mind that Trump is going to start a war with Iran. What makes me physically ill is that some 18 year olds are going to die in that war - not in the honor of defending their country but are going to die so POS Trump gets the heat taken off him. That's going to be real when we start seeing the bodies come home and we know that the only reason we're at war is due to Trump's ego and not some national security interest. God, only knows what war-time powers he will try to employ. Maybe delaying the election?

R412

r412, call me crazy, but I don't think Millennials, like the Parkland Kids, will let themselves get used as cannon fodder for Trump's war distraction. Of course the ones who enlisted, in the hopes of getting a decent college education, are screwed. Deplorables who still believe in Trump? Well ... I have my thoughts and prayers ready for them when they come back in a coffin.

That's correct, R412, trump and allies are willing to kill people, both Americans, Iranians, and young people of any of our allies willing to go along with trumps lies.

It's weapons of mass destruction all over again. Aggression based on lies.

So much for the sanctity of life. It it gets in the way of your wealth and power, let the bodies fall where they may.

But, we've seen republicans do this before. It's a strategy of corrupt conservatives and it has to stop now.

Stacking the courts, riling up the resentful, lying, obstruction, it's all part of their bag of evil tricks.

If young people don’t want to go, it’s time to ramp up the protests.

Didn't someone predict that Trump would start a war somewhere just to throw the spotlight off of the Mueller report and all of his crimes that have been covered up?

The Republicans on the House Oversight Committee are the most fervent Trump enablers in the House. They are largely the so-called Freedom Caucus top activists. Jim Jordan, Biggs, Gohmert, Gaetz, Collins, etc., are all part of it.

The Republican Party has turned into a cult, protecting Trump at all costs.

Just don't let them wrap themselves in the flag when we start ground troops in Iran. This is all about Trump and has nothing to do with national security. None of our allies will support us in this war. It will be America alone. There will be no allied coalition.

yay NY

State taxes won't show as much detail but will certainly show the amount of fed taxes paid and the amount of yearly revenue.

I still want him to kill himself. Pence is damaged goods and won't be able to get himself elected dog catcher.

Unfortunately, a malignant narcissist like Dump would never kill himself....

Trump would kill himself if someone convinces him that Obama wants him alive.

Interesting day in this saga.

[quote]I don’t get why Trump just won’t suddenly say “Fuck THIS” and resign so he can spend his remaining years playing golf.

[quote]Two words: Vladimir Putin.

However this deeply squalid coup plays itself out - prison ideally, but indisputable disgrace for sure - Trump will always be owned by Putin. For the rest of his days.

When Trump is out of office and branded forever with disgrace, Putin will of course give his useful idiot the silent treatment. As if to say, you couldn't hack it, could you, wimp?

As if Trump could go public about Putin, who has every receipt imaginable, and doubtless more. Trump will know he let down his big daddy in the biggest scam in history, the daddy who still owns him in toto. Epic fail, Trump. Total loser.

He needs to be in prison or else we will be subjected to his ranting until the day he dies.

Has Putie's nefarious, KGB-trained lizard brain planned for this eventuality of Dump's exposure, and if so, what will his next chess move be?

R428, I don’t think Putin needs to do anything else. Trump has discredited the US and our electoral system; he’s now attacking the Constitution. Exposing him as a crook and collaborator just enhanced the horror. It’s a win for Putin no matter what else happens.

How many variants on The Emperor's New Clothes or the ending of The Wizard of Oz can we expect to see in the editorial cartoons this weekend?

Putin won't need us anymore. He has NK, Venezuela, and Syria. He did his damage here.

It exonerates him, so what has he got to hide? Executive privilege is yet another tool for blantant obstruction.

Some ruski oligarch got his claws into the drumpf and it was all over. Poor litttle fuck probably never saw it coming until it was too late. Now he has to lie and obfuscate to the point of absolute guilt. No less a dolt than former congressman Gowdy even called him out on it.

Kavanaugh must be livid and crying angry tears into his beer knowing how he's been used. It would serve the drumpf right if his 'boy' on the SC, along with his other 'boys' turned his power tripping into a trip of another type.

Junior Mint’s been subponeaed? By the intel committee run by Republicans? Woo hoo!

Jerry Nadler: "We've talked for a long time about approaching a constitutional crisis. We are now in it."

Senate Intel subpoenas Trump Jr. over Russia matters.

It's the first congressional subpoena — that we know about — of one of President Trump's children. The subpoena sets up a fight that's unprecedented in the Trump era: A Republican committee chair pit against the Republican president's eldest son.

Nadler accused Trump of exercising “tyrannical power.”

I'm actually glad. Let's throw this shit down and take it to court. Let the Constitution stand for all of us or none.

2020 will decide if impeachment doesn't. 2018 scared the living hell out of them, obviously.

We got to read about the blue dress, so it's only fair to let us see what the spanx are hiding for this one in a report that 'fully exonerates' him.

I'd laugh if this was funny.

Expect chinless junior not to show.

Maybe if he gets locked up, fat Donnie will realize he's in deep shit and the teatards can't save him.

But he's probably too stupid and will try to destroy everything on his way down.

The way things are picking up speed no way will Trump be in the fucking mix for next year.

[quote]Senate Intel subpoenas Trump Jr. over Russia matters.

But Mitch McConnell said just yesterday "the case is closed"!

So apparently we that we need is an impeachment inquiry which would bar Dotard from claiming any you of privilege or block any documents, etc. that Congress demands.

Just *TRY* to have your distraction war now, Donnie!

Seth Abramson lays out where the counterintelligence piece of Mueller's investigation went. It’s ongoing at the FBI.

I finally heard from a middle of the road voter friend who doesn't like Dems, can't call himself a repug but always votes for them or won't vote. He finally said today, with the executive privilege over the Mueller Report, he is going to vote straight Dem, that he would never vote for a repug again, ever. He admitted he voted for a few Dems in last election (Beto was one). I asked why and he just said he can't ignore things anymore.

From my insider- this may not be a scoop but Pres Bone Spurs is going to prop up the economy at all costs. The plan is to juice it with further tax cuts if signs point to a slow down. Deficit/Debt be damned. They will do long term catastrophic damage in order to get him past 2020. He is waiting to the optimum date to either juice it with more cuts or spending. He knows the only thing holding him up at all is he gets credit for the Obama economy.

The vast majority of the Mueller Report is already available and Barr was not required by law to show anything at all. Also, if the Democrats want to see an unredacted version, all they have to do is cross the street and present Congressional photo ID. It's being stored in a safe room which they are free to visit. But not one Democrat has dropped by there.

If Barr feels bad about the committee's vote, Eric Holder can give him some tips on coping. Holder was held in contempt for withholding information about the Fast & Furious gun running fiasco which got Americans killed.

His juicing won't pass the house, FCI, so he can do whatever the fuck he wants. He is going to get kicked in the jibs by pelosi.

And it will be glorious.

r446 He is looking at "other ways" to get around the House. I don't know what that means, I didn't get clarification, but I assume it is some executive action or some other bullshit.

Republican Chair Burr of the Senate Intel Committee is conservative and has supported Trump. However, he disdains testimony before his committee that turns out to contains lies. He also wants to maintain the integrity of Congress in not relinquishing their Constitutional duties to the whims of Trump's Executive branch.

McConnell and Graham are the absolute worst. Kompromat has worked in there, with them wallowing in oligarch and NRA money..

Lindsey is on a Twitter rampage.

OMG!! Scandal and Sum of All Fears were snooze-fests compared to this RL political shit! Damn!!

If Murkowski, Collins, and two more had any integrity and decency they would switch parties, temporarily, to strip McConnell of his duties until this is settled.

Don Jr is either going to take the 5th or he's not going to show up- CNN.

r448....I hope thats sarcasm. Burr was taking classified information from his briefings and giving it to the white house...its in the Mueller report, so why the fuck is he still there. He was also on Trumps transition team, and because of that, I never trusted him regardless of his bipartisanship speeches.

Rand Paul, Kevin McCarthy, and other Republicans are having hissy fits that beloved future Dear Leader, Junior Mint, has been subpoenaed to appear before the Senate Intel Committee. This is North Korean style obsession.

That just proves what we already know....that its party over country with republicans. Even Nixon was able to have some republicans turn against him because of his behavior...Trump, not a one is standing against him. The ones who speak out have no backbone to take actual action. The entire party is corrupt.

They've been showing us for awhile that the rule of law only applies to conservatives.

This is what happens when the rich have too much money. This is capitalism flaw. Capitalism will be dead if the rich are allowed more power and to save it power needs to be taken away from the rich. That means taking their money. Yep. It has to be. They are too powerful and too stupid to not give us more of the pie to keep us happy. More are turning to drinking, smoking and pills to numb the pain. Stupid, stupid rich people.

Catching up on Seth Abramson's tweets ... WOW!

[quote]On this day in 1974, one of President Nixon’ attorneys invoked executive privilege over a request by the Senate Watergate Committee. Today AG Barr said he would invoke executive privilege over the Mueller Report. By coincidence the number of years separating these events is...45.

R456, I hope they OD or get cancer. Who'd miss them?

I admit I thought he'd be completely insane by now, like seriously blithering in a corner insane. he is more resilient than I thought, but the time is coming. The taxes are slowly but surely coming out, eventually the recent ones. And he is going to have a total meltdown. The madness of King Donald is a matter of time.

So why do Cohen et al get prosecuted for lying to congress and Jr Mint gets called back? What to clear things up? I smell a rat not that he would show anyway.

Here is what both William Barr and Don Trump, Jr. should do. They should delete 33,000 subpoenad e-mails, acid wash their hard drives with bit bleach, and smash their smart phone devices so that no will ever know what's in their private records. Two years ago, Democrats in Congress approved of this heartily.

you sound like they haven't r452. You sound like you think Republicans actually have some standard of ethics or legality that wouldn't allow them to do every single thing they accuse Democrats of doing. You sound like you think Republicans actually give a shit about consistency or integrity or patriotism. You sound Trumpish.

r445, you have been misinformed. CERTAIN members of Congress have been invited over to DOJ to see a slightly less redacted Mueller report, but THEY ARE REQUIRED TO SURRENDER ANY NOTES THEY TAKE BEFORE LEAVING THE BUILDING......... That's the great deal that Barr held out for them.

or r462 might make more sense

462 is a troll deluxe waking up in the shithole Russia.

This is true and known by many for decades DJT was a NY realestate conman that cheated his contractors, myriad in debt, bailed out by his dad, and live lavishly. I blame the media for not reporting thoroughly all Trump's sordid shananigans in '16.

they were having too much fun and imagining how President Hillary would be set back a bit by all of it, down the road. Media have proven they totally suck, almost as much as Republican Senators. Absolutely useless, all of them.

I can't fault the media, they are being relentless trying to uncover the truth now. We all knew, those of us paying attention anyway, that trump was a conman and a cheat from way back. Remember the collective national depression when he was "elected?" We all knew it would be bad and it's every bit as bad as we thought it would be, even worse. trump isn't even done yet in his quest to hold on the the power he lied to get.

It's going to get even worse. Possibly lives lost on our own soil. We may have to take up arms and storm the white house, Tsar Nicholas II of Russia style. Maybe I'm being extreme but the audaciousness of the lies and corruption seen in the past few days by trump and co is outrageous. Mitch McConnell is evil incarnate, holding off on seating judges than filling seats with right wingers as fast as he can etc. I fear it's going to get even uglier but I am sure we will win and vanquish these creeps. I just can't see the good people of the US putting up with this much longer.

The Deplorables are fools and they are not the majority.

R464 Is Barr an evil attorney or just a rotten brat (like his boss)? He's playing such childish games of obstructing/frustrating the House investigations by either ignoring their requests or barely complying with their requests but also throwing in all kinds of ridiculous restrictions.

So Brian Kemp has now signed a bill that says if women travel out of state for an abortion, they can be charged with attempted murder and anyone who helps her can also be charged.

WTF has the Republican Party turned into? It's like they've been given free rein to do whatever they want, no matter how grotesque, just because Trump is their leader.

How would this even be tracked? Are they going to force a woman to have a pregnancy test if she wants to travel out of the state?? It's like The Handmaid's Tale come to life.

It's awful how Trump used federally insured money on a shady real estate scheme, requiring a bailout. Also, it's horrible how he used the White House as his personal brothel, framed the White House Travel Office on false embezzlement charges, illegally used FBI background files for opposition research, used the IRS as a political attack machine, and OK'd the sale of highly classified missile technology to China which made its nuclear weapons far more accurate.

Oh, wait. That was the Clintons.

Clilnton's support of China's aerospace and missile technology was far more treasonous than anything Trump is accused of.

Did you see them giggling last week, on the Sunday Talk Shows, r469, about how stupid the Dems were to go after Barr. Don't you know he has all the power, hah, hah, hah. I think they will be pretty useless in the next few months. But hopefully I am wrong, and the Dems persevere in going after this shitty gang of con artists and do not relent because some assholes on TV think they've lost in advance.

R471, the goal is not to pass enforceable laws but to create an atmosphere of fear and intimidation.

[quote]Seth Abramson lays out where the counterintelligence piece of Mueller's investigation went. It’s ongoing at the FBI.

This needs to come out now. At least some of it. The leaks need to start. The new Deep Throat needs to step forward. They are going to start a war with Iran by June. This presidency needs to end.

He laughed at his rally tonight when one of the deplorables suggested shooting them as a solution to undocumented immigrants crossing the border. Of course there was also a lock her up chant. It is depressing what has been normalized with him -- he gets a pass because it is Trump being Trump even as he dehumanizes a group of people and threatens who he sees are his rivals.

He is a cunt. let the word go forth, he is a cunt. it should be the lead on every news show for the next two years.

Nancy has been looking very bad lately. I love Nancy and think she is on the right path, a steady hand attached to a whip smart brain. She knows what the fuck is up but it is weighing on her. Conservatives know the jig is up. The majority are not conservatives. Not even close when you look at issue by issue. It really has nothing to do with white vs brown or whatever. It is all about conservatism. Conservatism above all else even if they burn this country down in order to achieve it.

You must be conservative, male and preferably white. It isn't all that necessary (see Clarence Thomas). It isn't necessary to be Christian but it is necessary to SAY you are.

I cannot wait to see what they have on Falwell. DL was right again and DL was right about Barr probably ended the Mueller investigation early. Great job, guys!

R478 I don't care if Nancy looks like a 22 year old party girl or a 90 year old babushka. As long as she keeps a fire lit under Trump's ass is all I care.

Did R472 forget to take his AZT today? The dementia is settling in.

if you like Trump, you don't give a shit about corruption. it's kinda that simple, you just don't give a shit, really.

It was a pleasure blocking R472.

Troll invasion and Clinton Derangement Syndrome means one thing....

Something's about to come out.

Just FYI. The Mueller Report book arrived at our library today. The ten or so page introduction written by none other than...Alan Fucking Dershowitz. The entire thing is yapping about 'no collusion' and how they found nothing to charge Trump with and how he's innocent. I did, however, find it amusing that the first sentence literally said that Trump had no problem with the report which is why he didn't proclaim executive privilege over it. Oops, little Dershowitz spoke too soon.

I just saw ANOTHER clip tonight on the news that was from 1991 that was talking about Trump's financial woes! I cannot believe how the fucking media really missed the mark in 2016. They were so focused on his outrageous statements that they didn't talk much at all about what a fraud, conman and failure he was. They should have dug up every fucking clip and article talking about his bankruptcies and failures in 2016

but no. They had to make Hillary's emails be on par with Trump's bigotry and misogyny.

I want him to be electrocuted at one of those rallies.

Who knew "But her emails" would lead to the end of us?

There must be a ton of "go quietly or else" conversations being made to Trump (and hopefully Mitch!) right about now.

Even with all the investigations going on, Trump is still lucky. He's very lucky that Florida did not flip blue after the midterms and that it still has a repub governor and attorney general. That means most likely any of his crimes there won't be investigated. You just KNOW some major shit has to have gone down at Mar-a-lago as well as that property that he bought and sold quickly for more than double the price without making improvements to some Russian oligarch.

Luck had nothing to do with it....

I miss Stormy! Those were simpler times!

Stormy has been trashing Avenatti. Have y'all seen the clips in the news?

I think I know why they are so adamant about keeping the rest of the Mueller report under black bars. Those twelve cases that Mueller farmed out could be under control of the Justice Department which means Barr is in charge of them now. If anyone knew what those were, they could check on where those cases now stand and would find out that Barr has stopped all of them.

For twelve investigations to be currently going on but not one person anywhere seems to know what they are or where they are doesn't seem likely. I think Barr shut EVERYTHING down, including the Mueller investigation itself, and they sure as hell don't want anyone to know it. Mueller would certainly know it and they are doing everything possible to keep him from talking. All of this is to cover for Barr's actions on those twelve cases. Almost everything else can be figured out by context. Where would twelve investigations be hiding that no one can find them if they were still active?

Is Mueller still employed by the DOJ? You would think that with everything going on, he'd resign and then go ahead and answer any questions in a hearing. That's the only way to get all the answers.

R494 It was mentioned in passing on Rachel Maddow that Mueller might be free of the DOJ in a few weeks just in time to testify to the House committee.

I can't believe this was on Fox News website:

William Barr, the attorney general of the United States, now faces a likely contempt citation for failing to comply with a congressional subpoena and for misleading Congress. This is about the Mueller investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. Isn't the investigation now complete? How did the attorney general's veracity become an issue and thereby extend the life of the investigation? Here is the backstory.

When special counsel Robert Mueller completed his 448-page final report of his nearly two-year investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election, the Trump campaign and its relationships to Russian agents, and the personal efforts of President Donald Trump to impede the investigation, he complied with the federal rules and delivered his report to the attorney general. Barr examined the report and decided to undertake two approaches to releasing it to Congress and to the public. JUDGE ANDREW NAPOLITANO: DID PRESIDENT TRUMP OBSTRUCT JUSTICE? The first approach was to summarize its principal conclusions and the second was to redact from public and congressional view materials that federal statutes and court rules prohibit him from making public. So, late on a Sunday afternoon in April, Barr authored a four-page summary of Mueller's conclusions, which related that Mueller and his team of FBI agents and prosecutors could not establish the existence of a conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russian agents for the campaign to receive something of value from the Russians. Barr offered the opinion that this conclusion exonerated Trump on the conspiracy -- what the media falsely called “collusion” -- charge. The second statement in Barr's four-page summary was that while Mueller found evidence of obstruction of justice by Trump personally, he left the decision of how to proceed with this evidence to Barr; Barr then concluded that the president would not be prosecuted. In the meantime, Barr and his team began to scrutinize in private every word in Mueller's report so as to reveal only what federal statutes and court rules permit to be revealed. While this process was going on, some folks on Mueller's team leaked to the media their displeasure with Barr's four-page letter because they felt it had sanitized the report and failed to capture the flavor, tone and gravity of the allegations it made against Trump personally. After media outlets published the story of this disenchantment, Mueller himself sent a letter to Barr essentially objecting to the same matters that some on his team had complained about to the media. While government officials often disagree with each other, this little spat over whether Barr's summary was faithful to Mueller's report became important because of the following seemingly innocuous event: When Barr was testifying before a House subcommittee about his budgetary requests for the Department of Justice in the next fiscal year, he was asked by a member of the subcommittee if he knew anything about any criticisms by members of Mueller's team about his four-page summary of Mueller's conclusions. He replied, "No, I don't."

But of course, Barr did know because Mueller told him in his letter of the complaints his office had about the four-page letter. Did the attorney general deceive Congress? The Democratic members of the Judiciary Committee grilled the attorney general later on this, and he offered that a follow-up telephone call between himself and Mueller dissipated Mueller's written complaint. Yet, the fact that Mueller -- a seasoned government official -- wrote a letter about this knowing its near certain permanent residence in government files is telling. He made a permanent record of his complaint about Barr's sanitized letter, and Barr hid that record from Congress. At the same time that all of the above was transpiring, the House Judiciary Committee subpoenaed the full unredacted Mueller report from Barr, and he dropped the ball again. Instead of challenging the subpoena before a federal judge and asking her to rule on the lawfulness of compliance, Barr ignored it. This produced calls for the House to hold him in contempt; a largely symbolic gesture, yet an unpleasant one for Barr. What's going on here? It is clear that Barr's four-page letter, about which Mueller complained to Barr and some of Mueller's team complained to the media, was a foolish attempt to sanitize the Mueller report. It was misleading, disingenuous and deceptive. Also, because Barr knew that all or nearly all of the Mueller report would soon enter the public domain, it was dumb and insulting. Barr knows the DOJ is not in the business of exonerating the people it investigates. Yet he proclaimed in his letter that Trump had been exonerated. When the report revealed 127 communications between Russian agents and Trump campaign officials in a 16-month period, and the expectations of those officials of the release of Hillary Clinton's hacked emails, that is hardly an exoneration. Was Barr's testimony before Congress deceptive? In a word: Yes.

In a bit of bitter irony, the statute that the House Democrats now claim Barr violated is the same obstruction of justice statute that Mueller says the president violated -- engaging in deceptive or diversionary behavior for a corrupt purpose in order to impede a government investigation or inquiry. This is a gravely serious charge against the attorney general. Barr's prosecutors regularly prosecute defendants for doing what it now appears Barr has done. And the president last weekend added fuel to this fire by changing his mind on whether he will allow Mueller to testify publicly about his report. He now won't permit it. History teaches that these unpleasant events -- like Watergate and Whitewater -- can take on lives of their own, and can often have unintended consequences. But the lesson is always the same: It would be better for all of us if the whole truth comes out and comes out soon.

R496, who wrote that?

[quote]If Murkowski, Collins, and two more had any integrity and decency they would switch parties, temporarily, to strip McConnell of his duties until this is settled.

I can assure you, I'm VERY CONCERNED.

[quote]the goal is not to pass enforceable laws but to create an atmosphere of fear and intimidation (around abortion).

No, the goal is to pass a slew of anti-abortion laws in the hopes that one will make its way to review by a solidly conservative Supreme Court.

Thanks you R500.. that is the ultimate goal

r471 they can't be legal because we still have freedom in this country and can't be dictated to on how we live our life. May be illegal in one state but cannot stop a person from going to a place where it is legal.

THE ENTIRE REPUBLICAN PARTY NEEDS TO BE TAKEN DOWN

[quote] if you like Trump, you don't give a shit about corruption.

About HIS corruption. Hillary Clinton on the other hand must be so corrupt she's hiding an ankle bracelet for criminals with her pant suits!

R502, at this point, saying "we still have FREEDOM" gives me no comfort. My trust in the rule of law is thin under this administration

The talking point in certain parts of the country, namely red states, is that people don't care about this. That's a load of horseshit.

Seth Abramson has an informative twitter thread on thid Don Jr subpoena. I thought it was solely a gop ploy to get a story out before mueller trstified but this could be big:

Democrats in South Carolina will mount a very uphill challenge to unseat Lindsey Graham. Given the state's awful education situation, dismal intrastructure, serious health care issues particularly in rural areas, and environmental deterioration, Graham should be more vulnerable. But it is still a solid red state, and Trump supporters are Graham supporters.

I wish someone would leak a “presenting hole” pic of Miss Lindsey.

^perhaps plea to Putie, DJT, or Pecker. One, two, maybe all three could have a portfolio of them.

This case is closeted.

lol r510 clever wit. ww

HuffPo: While most of Washington was watching Wednesday's House hearing to hold AG Barr in contempt, Senate Republicans confirmed Trump's 38th lifetime circuit judge and broke from precedent again to get it done -- Mitch McConnell advanced the nominee to a floor vote over the objections of both home-state senators.

I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired, to quote the great Fannie Lou Hamer. The fact is, we keep "assembling" more and more information of crimes, and ethical lapses, et. Many of them are outrageous. And we keep saying "it won't be long..." and project that in the not too distant future all the chickens will come home to roost. "Something" or "someone" will bring us the relief and the Justice we need.

But I believe that unless we get more vocal and active, nothing much will happen. We have a role to play in all of this. Indivisible e mails their "To Do" list every month or every week. Get involved. ACLU is actively fighting Voter Suppression. Get involved. When there are hearings or important votes in your state legislature, show up. Phone, e-mail, go and bear witness.

We need to assert our presence. We have to be constantly reaching out to people in the media. We have to get on social media sites and raise hell. We can't passively wait until "something" happens. We have to make it happen. Get in their faces. Because honestly, I believe we, out here, understand Trump's game better than many politicians and media personalities. So I'm beggin' you, let's DO SOMETHING.

The Hill: Mulvaney: 'Bad form' for Senate panel to subpoena Trump Jr. without 'heads-up'

Washington Post: ‘Shoot them!’: Trump laughs off a supporter’s demand for violence against migrants

NYT: Trump Is Pushing Democrats to the Brink. Look at Elijah Cummings.

You just in ow that it is Stephen Miller’s wet dream to convert the migrant ICE camps into full-on extermination centers. They would love nothing more than to be able to shoot and kill brown people - men, women, children. They get hard thinking about this.

Watch for when this moves from the “ghettos” stage to liquidation.

[quote]I wish someone would leak a “presenting hole” pic of Miss Lindsey.

Wash your filthy whore mouth out with caustic lye!

When I sort of predicted this a few weeks, or maybe months, ago some of y'all thought I was nuts, or a troll and I'm SO not. None of us want to think he'll still be there in 2020. But IMO, I think what really might happen is that, with an overwhelming turnout, we gain control of the Senate, hold the House and get rid of that fucker through Impeachment and Trial in 2021. I once predicted June, 2021, but I think it could be sooner. I think he could be out of office by April 2021.

I don't want them to Impeach him now and fail, because the Senate will stop everything unless 20 Republican Senators get religion and stand up for the Rule of Law. That's not happening. Right now Trump is clearly terrified and weighing options. I can see his rhetoric and his behavior getting more extreme. He might start a war, incite riots, declare an emergency and suspend the Constitution, etc. He is desperate.

He knows he cannot win in a free, fair election, and he is trying to figure out what his moves are. Personally, if I were him I'd try to make a deal and resign for "health reasons." But he won't. Instead he will try to be President for Life. So we need to start exposing his supporters, too. All those guns found in LA? Tip of the iceberg. Start going after the people who back Trump, who also feel like they're above the Law.

Keep dismantling his support network. The NRA is imploding. We need more of that to happen. We need investigations by the House on every single little fart that comes out. WE ought to also be investigating organizations that get federal funding, or contractors, etc. The corruption is so widespread we could be giving them the blues right on through election day next year.

#PutinsGOP is trending on twitter this am

Agreed, R519. Every little piece of the puzzle should be brought to light. More investigations, more arrests.

R519 If we have overwhelming turnout in 2020 and are able to keep the house and flip the Senate, why do you think that Trump would still be president? He barely won in 2016 (75k votes) and he certainly hasn't added any new supporters. If we can flip the Senate, there is no way he is elected president in that type of election. However, I totally agree with you that he will start a war and try to delay the election.

Billy Bush is making it back to TV, anchoring a show carried by local Fox affiliates.

Billy Bush is a fucking loser.

Republicans don't want Junior Mint questioned. It is a threat to what they see as the line of succession in their monarchy.

Pooh Bear and Junior Mint purchase mansion in the Hamptons.

Guillfoyle looks like his well-preserved mother out for a ice cream with her doting son. How nice of him to take the old lady out. She doesn’t get out much anymore. Her arthritis, you know.

[quote]Who knew "But her emails" would lead to the end of us?

If only Obama wasn't dead set to extend the olive branch and she stuck with her initial decision not to take the SoS job...

Oh, look, troll at R528. Thanks for letting us know that Dotard is worried again!

Diaper Don as president one day? Oh, my sides!

US News: Nancy Pelosi Says the United States Is in a ‘Constitutional Crisis’

Obama's big tell was not letting W Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld be tried for war crimes.

It signaled that Republicans had free hand to block everything he proposed.

They did.

I hope the next Democratic President campaigns on charging and prosecuting Trump for EVERY FUCKING THING POSSIBLE. I want to see Trump jailed while further criminal litigation moves forward. I want every penny sucked out of the Trump Org. I want his children incarcerated. No criminal stone should be left unturned.

Poor Nancy: she looks frazzled in the recent pics.

“The people of Puerto Rico should really like President Trump,” the fat, orange cunt just said during a presser.

we HAD to go thru this so everyone could see how bad it has gotten. This didn't just start with Trump, Trump is the end result.

Judge Amy Berman Jackson demands unredacted Mueller report in connection with case against fugly Zika-head queen

The Patron Saint of White Mediocrity.

R536 This. Is. Huge.

Shit, yeah, Nancy is frazzled, R533. How would you look on 3 hours of sleep every fucking night because you had to make sure you were responsive to your members, returning calls, and there is a larger world out there so Nancy is prolly talking strategy with lawyers, and also trying to stay on top of developing news, like with Iran and North Korea, and a lot of other shit. All of that and being the best stiletto walking 79 yr old I've seen in years.

John McCain's biggest mistake. No, it is not naming S. Palin as his '08 running mate.

^Wish she would stop watching onto me.

latching, not watching. Not use to DL.

Irony is McCain received the Steele Dossier from someone overseas, and gave it to the FBI to look into. McCain was famously anti Putin for years. Toughest guy in the Senate on Russia. So every time Lindsey Graham opens his mouth, remember that.

[quote]So every time Lindsey Graham opens his mouth, remember that.

I assume this like thinking of England during sex.

Christ, Donald's determined to have a war with either Iran or North Korea -- maybe both.

But she has needs,......

She sashays to the cameras.

I'm gonna be watching at least part of the James Comey town hall tonight on CNN with Anderson Cooper. Unlike Mueller, Comey isn't afraid to sound off on everything. I hope he causes Trump and Fox to have more meltdowns.

Coney has diarrhea of the mouth, which is perfect for this era. Let him run his mouth, he will talk endlessly of the stupidity and corruption of Trump. Trump will tweet a thousand mind-numbingly stupid tweets. The longer this goes on, the more Comey doesn’t hold back.

I’ll be watching.

You know Comey will be refuting the spying claim again which is important as repubs are STILL running with it as if it's fact. I want Comey to address the FiSA non-scandal as well since repubs are STILL going with that too

Reuters: Sources: Donald Trump Jr. seen resisting Senate committee subpoena

Yahoo: Trump says Senate subpoena of Donald Jr. left him 'very surprised'

Reuters: U.S. Senate panel approves Trump nominee Rosen as deputy attorney general

I would be arrested if I refused a subpoena.

No fucking leeway for the rich!!!

I wonder if Burr felt embarrassed after he was exposed in the Mueller report and that's why he agreed to subpoena Trump Jr?

R555 don't be naive. Barr doesn't get embarrassed. He'd have to have a self-awareness and an ounce of dignity.

OP, on your next Treason thread, perhaps leave the comments sections with four blank spaces, and put the "continued discussion" with the title. For pic/article, open the image in a new link and post in R1 and R2.

It will not eliminate the Russher/Alt-Right trolls and related from flaming the thread, but will create some frustration for them. When threads get crossed, they lose positioning, and it gets missed by those not searching for it. Most regular viewers/posters will have it in their watch/reference list or do a search to find.

Perhaps others have better or additional ideas for formatting, and maybe they will share.

Thanks for keeping the series active, and you have provided some excellent thread titles.

R556 Senator Burr, not AG Barr

Right, R558.

Okay, Burr is a Rethuglican... none of them have a moral compass.

Whatever Burr's motivation, he's doing the right thing with the Trump Junior subpoena. Burr is not seeking re-election, so there is little McConnell can do to punish him.

This is unforgivable to Boston Red Sox fans.

Is Sarah Huckabee Sanders responsible?

Never believe any Rethug is ever doing anything because it's the "right" thing to do. There is always an ulterior motive and its always one that actually screws over the rest of the country.

Michael Cohen Continues to Pursue Trump Organization for Legal Fees

This is awful, but I'd like to hatefuck those two tall cups of douche in R568's picture.

Lindsey is Trump's run shit up the flagpole guy.

R568 John Lambert and Jacob Wohl would make a handsome couple. Maybe they'll become cellmates.

Someone created a new Part 102.

OP, Is it a hijack thread?

No, R573. But there was a mistake in that one.

Proper link to new thread below.

Thanks OP

Too early for the next thread. Are you having surgery OP?

Are you new here? R576. New threads always start around this time.

No, more like the late 80s.

That's to prevent thew new thread from filling up before the old one is closed.

The new thread is already up to 11.

But lets have a convo to close this thread r577.

23 posts to go.

And no, I am not new here.

New thread is up to 13

Politico: Burr holds firm despite GOP anger over Don Jr. subpoena

No, new threads often get started anywhere from the 70s to 90s, it seems whenever OP has the time. This isn't any earlier than the majority of the other ones.

So Trump has no kompromat on Burr?

Or this is all for show.......

Oh hell, we're trying to finish up this thread. I'm gonna just throw this here.

I don't get their indignancy about Junior being called to Capitol Hill. Find another hill to die on.

r585, wedding bells?

R587 Yeah, I didn't get the gist of the article. Skimmed most of it, but it was just talking about the past, and her physically moving homes. Puff piece.

However, I would like to say that John McCain was the last Republican for which I held respect. That's gone for good, though I'd like to see a crop of ethical Republicans prove me wrong.

keep it goin

Link to new thread for when this one maxes out.

Kill this thread.

Kill it with fire!

Speaking of flaming, has the Cockgobbler been seen since Coachella?

Yeah R593 it's like he dropped off the face of the earth. Maybe he's just hidden behind some leather and a gloryhole somewhere.

Link to new thread for when this one maxes out:

And new threads often get started earlier because it's hard for a lot of people to view on mobile.

Closing

this

thread

Out.

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