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Shirley Q Liquor

I know, she's old news. But I wonder how she'd be received if she came out onto the club scene today.

Is she just joking in bad taste? Or racist?

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by Anonymousreply 6806/29/2020

Personally, I love her. People are so obsessed with appearing " Woke " that they have lost their minds.

by Anonymousreply 105/03/2019

Well of course some club in Portland would cancel her appearance. You can sneeze on a sidewalk in that fucked up city and someone will start screaming you're either racist or fascist and demand to be taken to a safe space.

by Anonymousreply 205/03/2019

Of course she's joking.

by Anonymousreply 305/03/2019

That bitch has got to let it go. I know its his most popular character, but he should indeed ask himself, "Why is that?" and maybe give it a think.

He has another character who is basically my patron saint or my spirit animal or whatever: Betty Butterfield. I did not grow up in the south -- I was from a tiny town in the prairies in Canada -- but I grew up with women like this around me. And as over-the-top as Betty can be, I have a lot of empathy and love for her. Incredible character.

Now stop doing fucking blackface, Chuck Knipp. It's racist. Full stop. So, stop!! Please.

by Anonymousreply 405/03/2019

Betty

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by Anonymousreply 505/03/2019

Betty Butterfield is a national treasure.

by Anonymousreply 605/03/2019

I think he actually retired Shirley a while back. I agree that Betty is brilliant.

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by Anonymousreply 705/03/2019

Love Shirley Q. Liquor. Even her oldest stuff still has me dying.

by Anonymousreply 805/03/2019

You know her performance comes from a place of love, not hate. I don't find it offensive at all.

by Anonymousreply 905/03/2019

I worked with a woman who is the living embodiment of Shirley Q Liquor. I am in a different office now but see her every day still. I once recorded her in the office and you’d be hard pressed to tell the difference.

by Anonymousreply 1005/03/2019

R6- Calm down. She's not a national treasure. DIVINE was perhaps a national treasure.

by Anonymousreply 1105/03/2019

R11 Smooches!

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by Anonymousreply 1205/03/2019

HOW YOU DURRIN, LIPS? Tell y'mama'n'em I axed 'em how she durrin?

by Anonymousreply 1305/03/2019

Love Shirley Q. Liquor. Blacks need to get over it. And all them bleeding heart honkies too.

by Anonymousreply 1405/03/2019

R14 Thank you, David Duke.

by Anonymousreply 1505/03/2019
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by Anonymousreply 1605/03/2019

Who's that skinny little qween at R16?

Girl, get your own shit.

by Anonymousreply 1705/03/2019

Didn't she do the Michael Berry show? He's the right-winger who was discovered at a gay bar.

by Anonymousreply 1805/03/2019

RuPaul has Shirley Q on his album.

by Anonymousreply 1905/03/2019

Yes, RuPaul's a fan and has defended her, he says Shirley's a tribute to southern black women and it's not racist. I think maybe the act is racist, although I don't think the drag queen that does her is really racist.

by Anonymousreply 2005/03/2019

The offensive is that it's a blackface comedy act geared towards a predominately white audience. So it comes across as "hey, let's laugh at the blacks!" That doesn't sit well with many blacks (nor many whites, either).

by Anonymousreply 2105/03/2019

His Facebook page.

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by Anonymousreply 2205/03/2019

Divine, a national treasure? Bitch please, she was a dog shit eater.

by Anonymousreply 2305/03/2019

Somehow Chuck Knipp has dual American/Canadian citizenship.

by Anonymousreply 2405/03/2019

Homosexicals!

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by Anonymousreply 2505/03/2019

Church slave.

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by Anonymousreply 2605/03/2019

I'm really surprised that RuPaul defended Shirley Q. Liquor.

Yes, the material can be funny, but it is an old white man in blackface making fun of black people. How can people not see that that is not OK?

by Anonymousreply 2705/03/2019

[quote] he tried to shake the bar's image as hostile to women

It's a fucking gay bar

by Anonymousreply 2805/03/2019

He does not "make fun of black people" as SQL. He does a caricature of the funniest things about some black women. No one was bitching and complaining when Eddie Murphy and Martin Lawrence did the same thing multiple times. Where was the outrage when Eddie Murphy did the caricature of an old Jewish man in "Coming To America"? The Jews didn't seem to have any problem with it.

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by Anonymousreply 2905/03/2019

The Shirley character is just not as funny as the Betty character.

by Anonymousreply 3005/03/2019

White people on TV.

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by Anonymousreply 3105/03/2019

It’s like performing in drag, pretending to be something you’re not, in order to entertain.

by Anonymousreply 3205/03/2019

Shame you don't know any black people, R1. I wonder why that is.

by Anonymousreply 3305/03/2019

He has another hilarious character. Marge from Fargo, ND.

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by Anonymousreply 3405/03/2019

Marge's family.

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by Anonymousreply 3505/03/2019

Marge takes her driver license test.

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by Anonymousreply 3605/03/2019

Betty visits the Buddhist Temple. Wait for the ending.

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by Anonymousreply 3705/03/2019

I love Betty Butterfield! You don't even have to be Southern - I've lived in the Northeast my whole life and there are lots of Betty Butterfields in this region too.

by Anonymousreply 3805/03/2019

"So I went to a Catholic Church, and it was okay. Afterwards I talked with the priest and he was a very nice man. I asked him, how long have y'all been around? And the priest says to me 'we've been around since the time of Christ.' I said really? You mean y'all've been around longer than the First Baptist downtown?"

by Anonymousreply 3905/03/2019

How is Shirley Q. Liquor any different from the white guys who played Amos, Andy, and Beulah on the radio?

by Anonymousreply 4005/03/2019

SQL gets conjured up and it's a miracle. All I see is love for a deeply good woman.

by Anonymousreply 4105/03/2019

I really would like to locate the skit where Shirley visits an Episcopal Church. I heard it once, and then when I went back to listen again I couldn't find it anywhere.

by Anonymousreply 4205/03/2019

I've never seen one with SQL visiting an Episcopal Church. But there is one with Betty Butterfield.

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by Anonymousreply 4305/03/2019

The Gay Church and the JWs. A national Treasure.

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by Anonymousreply 4405/03/2019

Fat

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by Anonymousreply 4505/03/2019

SQL was what like 20 years ago and BB is all over a decade. Has Chuck done anything more recent that's online?

by Anonymousreply 4605/03/2019

God !!! I love her.

by Anonymousreply 4705/03/2019

SQL outrages those who aren't happy unless they have something or someone to be outraged over.

by Anonymousreply 4805/04/2019

I really didn't know (until posting this) that SQL had been off the radar for that long. Or that she was ever well known enough to be in Rolling Stone!

by Anonymousreply 4905/04/2019

Did Chuck Knipp retire Shirley Q. Liquor because of all the controversy or did he just decide he was done with that character?

by Anonymousreply 5005/04/2019

Chuck Knipp is crazy as Betty Butterfield.

by Anonymousreply 5105/04/2019

[quote]How is Shirley Q. Liquor any different from the white guys who played Amos, Andy, and Beulah on the radio?

How is Shirley Q. Liquor any different from slavery?

How is Shirley Q. Liquor any different from Jim Crow?

If something was done in the past, it must be OK now.

by Anonymousreply 5205/04/2019

Even I voted it was racist.

by Anonymousreply 5305/04/2019

I don't think it's racist. She's a character. One that isn't meant to represent the ideal black woman that we should all aspire to. And there are lots of women who are just like her. Why can't a man play this part? I think Chuck is the furthest thing from insensitive. I think he's spot on, actually. I think he feels Shirley deep in his bones and has to express it. Let him be.

by Anonymousreply 5405/04/2019

I will say this the Shirley types I meet are a lot more decent and generous than either old Wasp ladies or old Italian ladies.

by Anonymousreply 5505/04/2019

The Shirley Q act is racist, no question about it. And it's offensive to a whole lot of people, for completely understandably reasons. But it's also very very very funny and well-observed.

by Anonymousreply 5605/04/2019

Shirley Q is not that funny. For that type of comedy one must see Lisa Lampinelli. She is FUCKIN FUNNY!

by Anonymousreply 5705/04/2019

[quote]No one was bitching and complaining when Eddie Murphy and Martin Lawrence did the same thing multiple times.

Christ, you are stupid.

[quote]Where was the outrage when Eddie Murphy did the caricature of an old Jewish man in "Coming To America"? The Jews didn't seem to have any problem with it.

Plenty of critics had a problem with it. Variety, NYT and UPI all mentioned the racism and antisemitism in 1988 (i.e. not modern critics, but contemporaneous ones). Animosity between the Jewish and black communities goes back decades and he was playing off of that.

by Anonymousreply 5805/04/2019

Yes R50, he retired the character years back because so many people were losing their bowels over it.

by Anonymousreply 5905/04/2019

Betty Butterfield, Exorcist on Call

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by Anonymousreply 6005/04/2019

I'd be willing to bet that the people who all think that too much of a fuss was made about SQL, that she's not racist, and that everyone should just relax and get over it....

.....are the ones that show up in any thread mentioning the word queer with, "OMG! That's such a hateful slur!"

by Anonymousreply 6105/04/2019

If it's not racist, it must just be a coincidence that it's so popular with racists.

by Anonymousreply 6205/04/2019

I guess that's why SQL is so popular with black folks too. Hmmmmm.......funny how that works.

And R61 you'd be very wrong with me. I much prefer being called "queer" over "gay". But in a pinch I'll take homo.

by Anonymousreply 6305/04/2019

Hurr yer durin?

by Anonymousreply 6404/04/2020

His Facebook says he’s a Mormon Republican.

by Anonymousreply 6504/04/2020

I think there's a difference between gently ribbing a culture versus outright attacking it mean spiritedly. My nephew grew up around black people and he acts and speaks like one so many people think he's being racist when, in fact, he just adapted to a different culture. I really don't find SQL that mean spirited.

by Anonymousreply 6604/04/2020

Cancelled!!!

by Anonymousreply 6706/29/2020

Why can’ she be racist, in bad taste AND funny as hell?

by Anonymousreply 6806/29/2020
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