Shirley Q Liquor

Personally, I love her. People are so obsessed with appearing " Woke " that they have lost their minds.

Well of course some club in Portland would cancel her appearance. You can sneeze on a sidewalk in that fucked up city and someone will start screaming you're either racist or fascist and demand to be taken to a safe space.

Of course she's joking.

That bitch has got to let it go. I know its his most popular character, but he should indeed ask himself, "Why is that?" and maybe give it a think.

He has another character who is basically my patron saint or my spirit animal or whatever: Betty Butterfield. I did not grow up in the south -- I was from a tiny town in the prairies in Canada -- but I grew up with women like this around me. And as over-the-top as Betty can be, I have a lot of empathy and love for her. Incredible character.

Now stop doing fucking blackface, Chuck Knipp. It's racist. Full stop. So, stop!! Please.

Betty

Betty Butterfield is a national treasure.

I think he actually retired Shirley a while back. I agree that Betty is brilliant.

Love Shirley Q. Liquor. Even her oldest stuff still has me dying.

You know her performance comes from a place of love, not hate. I don't find it offensive at all.

I worked with a woman who is the living embodiment of Shirley Q Liquor. I am in a different office now but see her every day still. I once recorded her in the office and you’d be hard pressed to tell the difference.

R6- Calm down. She's not a national treasure. DIVINE was perhaps a national treasure.

R11 Smooches!

HOW YOU DURRIN, LIPS? Tell y'mama'n'em I axed 'em how she durrin?

Love Shirley Q. Liquor. Blacks need to get over it. And all them bleeding heart honkies too.

R14 Thank you, David Duke.

Who's that skinny little qween at R16?

Girl, get your own shit.

Didn't she do the Michael Berry show? He's the right-winger who was discovered at a gay bar.

RuPaul has Shirley Q on his album.

Yes, RuPaul's a fan and has defended her, he says Shirley's a tribute to southern black women and it's not racist. I think maybe the act is racist, although I don't think the drag queen that does her is really racist.

The offensive is that it's a blackface comedy act geared towards a predominately white audience. So it comes across as "hey, let's laugh at the blacks!" That doesn't sit well with many blacks (nor many whites, either).

His Facebook page.

Divine, a national treasure? Bitch please, she was a dog shit eater.

Somehow Chuck Knipp has dual American/Canadian citizenship.

Homosexicals!

Church slave.

I'm really surprised that RuPaul defended Shirley Q. Liquor.

Yes, the material can be funny, but it is an old white man in blackface making fun of black people. How can people not see that that is not OK?

[quote] he tried to shake the bar's image as hostile to women

It's a fucking gay bar

He does not "make fun of black people" as SQL. He does a caricature of the funniest things about some black women. No one was bitching and complaining when Eddie Murphy and Martin Lawrence did the same thing multiple times. Where was the outrage when Eddie Murphy did the caricature of an old Jewish man in "Coming To America"? The Jews didn't seem to have any problem with it.

The Shirley character is just not as funny as the Betty character.

White people on TV.

It’s like performing in drag, pretending to be something you’re not, in order to entertain.

Shame you don't know any black people, R1. I wonder why that is.

He has another hilarious character. Marge from Fargo, ND.

Marge's family.

Marge takes her driver license test.

Betty visits the Buddhist Temple. Wait for the ending.

I love Betty Butterfield! You don't even have to be Southern - I've lived in the Northeast my whole life and there are lots of Betty Butterfields in this region too.

"So I went to a Catholic Church, and it was okay. Afterwards I talked with the priest and he was a very nice man. I asked him, how long have y'all been around? And the priest says to me 'we've been around since the time of Christ.' I said really? You mean y'all've been around longer than the First Baptist downtown?"

How is Shirley Q. Liquor any different from the white guys who played Amos, Andy, and Beulah on the radio?

SQL gets conjured up and it's a miracle. All I see is love for a deeply good woman.

I really would like to locate the skit where Shirley visits an Episcopal Church. I heard it once, and then when I went back to listen again I couldn't find it anywhere.

I've never seen one with SQL visiting an Episcopal Church. But there is one with Betty Butterfield.

The Gay Church and the JWs. A national Treasure.

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SQL was what like 20 years ago and BB is all over a decade. Has Chuck done anything more recent that's online?

God !!! I love her.

SQL outrages those who aren't happy unless they have something or someone to be outraged over.

I really didn't know (until posting this) that SQL had been off the radar for that long. Or that she was ever well known enough to be in Rolling Stone!

Did Chuck Knipp retire Shirley Q. Liquor because of all the controversy or did he just decide he was done with that character?

Chuck Knipp is crazy as Betty Butterfield.

[quote]How is Shirley Q. Liquor any different from the white guys who played Amos, Andy, and Beulah on the radio?

How is Shirley Q. Liquor any different from slavery?

How is Shirley Q. Liquor any different from Jim Crow?

If something was done in the past, it must be OK now.

Even I voted it was racist.

I don't think it's racist. She's a character. One that isn't meant to represent the ideal black woman that we should all aspire to. And there are lots of women who are just like her. Why can't a man play this part? I think Chuck is the furthest thing from insensitive. I think he's spot on, actually. I think he feels Shirley deep in his bones and has to express it. Let him be.

I will say this the Shirley types I meet are a lot more decent and generous than either old Wasp ladies or old Italian ladies.

The Shirley Q act is racist, no question about it. And it's offensive to a whole lot of people, for completely understandably reasons. But it's also very very very funny and well-observed.

Shirley Q is not that funny. For that type of comedy one must see Lisa Lampinelli. She is FUCKIN FUNNY!

[quote]No one was bitching and complaining when Eddie Murphy and Martin Lawrence did the same thing multiple times.

Christ, you are stupid.

[quote]Where was the outrage when Eddie Murphy did the caricature of an old Jewish man in "Coming To America"? The Jews didn't seem to have any problem with it.

Plenty of critics had a problem with it. Variety, NYT and UPI all mentioned the racism and antisemitism in 1988 (i.e. not modern critics, but contemporaneous ones). Animosity between the Jewish and black communities goes back decades and he was playing off of that.

Yes R50, he retired the character years back because so many people were losing their bowels over it.

Betty Butterfield, Exorcist on Call

I'd be willing to bet that the people who all think that too much of a fuss was made about SQL, that she's not racist, and that everyone should just relax and get over it....

.....are the ones that show up in any thread mentioning the word queer with, "OMG! That's such a hateful slur!"

If it's not racist, it must just be a coincidence that it's so popular with racists.

I guess that's why SQL is so popular with black folks too. Hmmmmm.......funny how that works.

And R61 you'd be very wrong with me. I much prefer being called "queer" over "gay". But in a pinch I'll take homo.

Hurr yer durin?

His Facebook says he’s a Mormon Republican.

I think there's a difference between gently ribbing a culture versus outright attacking it mean spiritedly. My nephew grew up around black people and he acts and speaks like one so many people think he's being racist when, in fact, he just adapted to a different culture. I really don't find SQL that mean spirited.

Cancelled!!!

Why can’ she be racist, in bad taste AND funny as hell?