British Royal Family Gossip Part 44

To continue the name discussion, my bet for Baby Sussex now is Alexander Henry Charles.

If it's a girl, I think they will go with Grace to play up the "American actress marries into royalty" connection.

R600 Your last pronouncement just proved that you do, indeed, have no fucking idea what you’re talking about. Not even British, are you?!

Now piss off.

Oh fuck you, R3. I'll post what I damn well please. If you don't like it, feel free to cram your hurt fee-fees right up your pox-riddled arse.

If it's a girl, I think they'll go full kiss-ass and name her Elizabeth. I can see Elizabeth Diana Victoria.

R5, I sure hope they do!.

Maybe even Elizabeth Victoria Mary Diana.

Just go for it!

So, Diana was called a media-whore in the previous thread.

What a great irony that she did not live to see the 24 hour news cycle and the age of Instagram, etc.

Also, I hate when people referred to her as Princess Diana.

She was Lady Diana, Princess of Wales.

What kind of hair do you suppose the new baby will have?

Seriously!

African-Americans often complain that Heidi Klum and other white (celeb) moms with children of color "don't know how" to care for their children's hair.

If it's a boy, I think the name Albert is waiting.

Or Arthur.

I am going to ask this again:

why do you all suppose Princess Anne refused "Courtesy Titles" for her two children, Peter and Zara?

I don't believe she will labor with this babe. Definite C with lots of extra nips and tucks. That's why we won't see her for a while after the birth.

My guess R11? Anne is eminently confident in who she is, so she takes the titles seriously but doesn't see them as the be-all end-all of a person's worth. She probably wanted her kids to develop their own character and path, and avoid the hassle.

R11, maybe she understood that they weren’t in line for the throne, and didn’t want them to expect too much?

Anne is my favorite.

Close, R8, but not quite right. At the time of her death she was “Diana, Princess of Wales”. But, as you said, never “Princess Diana”.

If she’d lived to marry Dodi she would have been “Lady Diana al Fayed” which would have been interesting!

I know, R7, irony indeed. She didn't even really make it to the internet era.....or ubiquitous cell phones (though she probably had a mobile).

R11 This question comes up all the time. Anne didn’t refuse titles for her children because they weren’t hers to refuse. Children take their titles from their fathers in UK and their father had no title.

He was supposedly offered an Earldom on marriage - that’s what was refused. If he’d accepted their children would be Viscount X or Lady X Phillips, but no royal titles and no HRH.

R16 yes she did have a mobile hence the Squidgygate scandal and tapes. Her mobile was bugged

Too quiet....Reports of having the baby at home only fuels surrogate theory. She better come up with a baby, any baby!! Other than puffy face, I always thought she was holding the bump to keep the padding on ...Let’s see this frog baby!

Didn't someone in the last threads mention that women using surrogates and faking the bump usually take steroids to get the temporary plumping up in their faces to match the fake bump?

I dunno I never bought the whole fake pregnancy thing, although I thought she was padding for attention.

Now, with all this irregularity around the conditions of the birth, the weird location, the announcement there would be no announcement - it's all so ... odd. Especially for a famewhore like Meghan. So odd the even I have begun to wonder if the surrogacy theorists might be onto something.

The poster at R584 on the previous thread who said there’s never been a British king named Alexander - there have been three kings of Scotland by that name. Scotland is the bit that occupies the top half of the island of Great Britain. So that’s 3 British kings named Alexander. There’s been a couple of Constantines too, a name I prefer.

R16 Oh and the time Diana was rejected by the married Olivier Hoare and she stalked him. She'd drive to his house late at night, sit outside, wait until the lights went out and ring him on her mobile. When he dumped her she harassed him and would ring his home and hang up, she also got her staff to ring and hang up. She did it so many times Oliver Hoare's wife complained to police and it was awkwardly found that the calls came from Kensington Palace.

r20 what doctor would prescribe steroids for no medical reason? And what woman, who's hyper aware of keeping her figure and her looks, would take steroids just to fatten up? What you mention is an urban legend. There's no documented proof anywhere that any woman took steroids to fatten up and hide the fact they had a kid by a surrogate. And don't give me blog postings as proof.

R22 can you imagine? So embarrassing.

There's no doubt Diana was troubled... I do believe, though, if she married a garden variety man from upper class British society, that she'd have garden variety mental problems (if you get my drift). The fact that she was married to the next King of England just magnified her issues.

Diana was so convincing, though. I watched that tv special “Diana in her own words“ and by the end I was all, why that damn royal family, how very dare they! But then you step back and realize they probably had no idea what they were dealing with. As an astute friend remarked back in the day, even before the divorce, “Separately, Charles and Diana are great. Together, terrible.” In the end, I guess you have to give it to Diana for being the wronged wife. But it’s complicated.

There was a popular rumor back in the 1970s and 80s that Charles intended to use Arthur as his regnal name. It was widely repeated and appeared in print. I imagine you can mentions of it on google.

But I haven't heard anybody mention it for years and I'm sure at this point he'll rule as Charles III.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

R25 So true, they were a disaster together, poor Diana had a terrible childhood and really thought Charles was her knight in shining armour. Though I do think she realised before the wedding she was heading for trouble. She wanted to call it off but her sisters famously said, sorry Duch (her nickname) your face is on the tea towels. I don't think she would have ever been happy in any marriage, look at her brother I think he has been married about 3 times with numerous affairs. Both Diana and her younger brother were the most affected by their parents hideous divorce and both had problems in relationships.

R26 - " . . . realize they probably had no idea what they were dealing wit . . ."

They realised pretty quickly after the marriage as Diana turned her true face to them as soon as they returned from honeymoon. But it is probably true that they lacked the vocabulary to define what they'd imported into their midst - they weren't the sorts to go in for psychoanalysis. They knew something was wrong but were utterly helpless to name it or cope with it.

But there's no excuse a generation later for doing the same thing. The Wales/Sussex parallels are incomprehensible:

Short relationship before marriage conducted mostly in episodic bursts

Pregnancy immediately following marriage

Woman with a gift for charming a target whilst cloaking serious issues

Warning signs early in royal life that pre-engagement persona was not entirely the whole picture.

Propensity for dropping formerly important people like the proverbial hot potato without explanation (Diana was famous for this)

Obsessive self-absorption and valuation of others only as reflective of self-worth.

The target husband is the premier reflection of the woman's worth, and is also spectacularly ill-equipped emotionally and psychologically to cope with the all-consuming wife's appetite for success, adoration, and attention.

R29, you’re so right—divorce, in general, has a pretty profound effect (both bad and good) on children, but Diana’s parents were nightmares.

R27 Yes I remember that! Charles liked Arthur way back in the day. MM probably has copied and pasted this information in her "How to be the Queen of Britain" scrapbooks she's had since she was 15

This article is so shady. The truth is that Meghan copies what she thinks is trendy based on Amal Clooney and Victoria Beckham. Celebrity fashion for SohoBebe.

[quote] Meghan has a very individual style, and she will incorporate that when she’s shopping for her baby.

R30 there are parallels but also quite a lot of differences. Diana was very young and naive, Meghan wasn’t. Even though people think it was a quick marriage, Harry and Meghan spent a lot more time together than Diana and Charles. Meghan was a career woman (yes, I know the arguments about being a D-list actress but she made a living). I don’t doubt the Sussexes might not make it, but it will be for a whole lot of different reasons than Charles and Diana.

According to the tin hats, the police are at Windsor and Meghan is getting arrested.

R35 - An anonymous poster on skippyisheretostay. Tin hats is an understatement.

R34 - I do see the variants, but I still believe the underlying pattern is the same. It's the variants that fooled the BRF, don't you see?

R35 that is one bonkers twitter... wow.

What are these people going to do when Mr and Mrs Meghan trundle up to the press with their baby who hopefully will inherit a better nose than both its parents?

One must admit, the Duchess being frogmarched out of Frogmore would be a hell of a season-ending cliffhanger!

I wa about to chime in and ask if anyone had seen torontopaper's latest and the excited hysteria about This Being It.

When this turns out to be one of those War of the Worlds/The Martians are Here! I wonder what the hysterics will do?

Wondering the same, R41...

Wardrobe bump malfunction.

I don't believe Meghan intends to have a home birth. You don't roll the dice at 37 and hope all goes well. My guess is that she'll go into labor at home, as most women do, but she'll be transported to the hospital well before she gives birth. The PR will be that she really wanted to stay home but medical professionals insisted she move to a hospital. Best of both worlds for her, but problematic in the sense that she's promoting the idea that home births are better and more natural when, for some, they are deadly. If she does give birth at home, I'll agree with posters here who think she's not nearly as smart as she would have us believe.

R43, have you heard of Photoshop? Do you really believe that a photo like that wouldn’t have made headlines?

No one frogmarches a nine months' pregnant member of the royal family out of anywhere for any reaso whatsoever.

I just checked into one of teh most notorioius of the Cumber Crazies on Tumblr and there she is peddling the same lies and more important, promises of revelation and an ending to the Great Cumerbatch Marriage Baby Fraud - four years and three kids into his marriage.

Be advised.

This is just nuts.

^* reason

notorious

The ultimate ending:

Cut to a few years into the future; Charles now king just finishes an important meeting with an important looking person. As the door closes, our king breaths a sigh of relief.

Charles who's back is now facing us gazes out the window. As Charles goes to adjust his tie, it is revealed "Charles" is just a mask!

*Music starts as Meghan still in Charles's suit kicks back into a wing-back chair and laughs.

END SCENE roll credits

Name the kid Diana and stand back to watch the crazy. Even if a boy. Maybe especially if a boy.

Agree with both R30 and R34. I would add that Harry and Meghan may have spent more time together, but unlike Charles and Diana, they had the romance of distance and the weird filter of internet and social media. I picture lovestruck Harry in the beginning, lying on his bed, watching “Suits,” google-imaging his long-distance sweetheart, scrolling through her Instagram. She, meanwhile, was googling all of the royal stuff and polishing her image. (To be honest, their courtship must have been very stressful for her; she probably was constantly worrying about bimbos throwing themselves at the prince. I give her credit for pulling the whole thing off, it took nerves of steel.) When they were together, it was whirlwind visits and glamorous getaways.

So in both cases, the couples knew each other but didn’t really know each other, certainly not the way Will and Kate or Charles and Camilla did.

My bet for the baby is Alice Goatina Elizabeth Fugrezina.

Skippyisheretostay on Tumblr is Cumberbitch level crazy. I like watching these tinhats flailing, though.

I fear that Meghan announced earlier than 12 weeks and she's therefore going to be much later than everyone anticipates and it's just going to be increasingly exhausting.

I just checked out that tumblr, R53. Skippyisheretostay is clearly rather... imaginative.

She announced the Monday (Oct. 15) after Beatrice's wedding so today is the 28-week mark from that announcement.

R56 - I do believe you mean 38-week mark.

My thought, R56, is that she wasn't really 12 weeks along when she announced. Maybe she was 10 or 11 weeks, but she announced early so she could enjoy the attention during the tour. So we could be in for a week or two more.

The Prince Harries or whatever these Larrie style truthers call themselves genuinely believe that Megan will be arrested after failing to produce a child. They also believe Harry and Kate are having an affair.

Is it performance art, maybe?

Radaronline has a different take: they assert that Harry and Meghan are, in fact, not at Frogmore, but are kipping at digs at Kensington Palace where there is massive security, and where Meghan is waiting to go into labour, because far from opting for a home birth she will like everyone else with privilege and money rush to the upper-tier hospitals in centra London.

Of course, Radaronline is only slightly less unreliable than skippy and torontopaper.

The replies to that “boom” tweet are something else.

R62 - Ditto the ones on skippyisheretostay.

If you ever really wonder why the world is in the shape it is, all you have to do is review some of those Tumblr sites, and you'll know why: because there are so many fucking bonkers people in the world.

I for one am reveling in the reprieve from the raging egomaniac.

R61, This story actually makes sense to me. They're trying to fly under the radar and throw off the press, but she's planning to give birth at a good hospital and they're just trying to keep it secret.

[quote]So odd the even I have begun to wonder if the surrogacy theorists might be onto something.

It would explain why she seems so unconcerned about where to have the baby, or who will deliver it. If there’s no baby up in her, there’s no chance for complications.

Of course, we keep hearing conflicting reports. But hey, it keeps her name in the papers.

There won't be a reprieve aside from what we'r seeing now. She has stories queued up for play while she's temporarily out of action.

At R67, we're

Oh those poor sods desperately deluding themselves that skippy and torontopaper really had some inside dope that was going to blow the lid off the Sussex marriage . . . when they wake up in a few hours and realise they've been had . . . whatever will they do?

Did the Queen visit FrogHouse?

R66 just said this: '...would explain why she seems so unconcerned about where to have the baby, or who will deliver it. If there’s no baby up in her, there’s no chance for complications'

We have at least one Truther in her midst. Don't block, let her share her thoughts.

They are all COMEDY GOLD.

Meaghan cannot be faking this pregnancy!

That is real pregnancy face!

So, do you think that Will and Katie will go for number four?

It would be nice for Charlotte to have a sister.

R70 - In the absence of a birth and with Sparkle invisible, the media of a certain calibre are doing everything they can to keep the Royal Baby Baloon afloat, so they make up stuff with impunity attributing information that is completely unverified, especially by photos (what they like to call now "receipts"), to "sources close to" or "close friends of the couple" or "reliable sources say".

The Queen isn't in the habit of making gestures like that. And I don't believe William and Kate dropped by the FrogCott on Easter Sunday, either.

R73 - No, I don't. Satisfying as it would be to see Harry knocked back to 7th and his kid to 8th, Kate is 37, she has a really bad tim in the first trimester, and her last is barely one year old. She's got her figure back, her public programmes have clearly been stepped up, the Queen could pop off at any moment, pushing William and Kate up a slot to Prince and Princess of Wales . . . she's got a perfectly lovely family group together, why go for a fourth?

Why do I picture a massive Frau Circle surrounding Frogmore to pray away the Demon Child?

Agree, the visits are a myth. Liars.

Oh Noes, Baby Truthers! It's entirely too sad.

It's true. Nobody visited. Nobody's pregnant. It's all an ILLUSION!

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Gays and Fraus! We must be accommodating to our "Tin Hat Tumblr" visitors!

Good Lord in Heaven, no exuberance, please.

I loathe MM and her awful behaviour, but the people saying "she's been arrested"? Ummm, no, no and no.

The Frau Princess is the Only Princess Who Has Ever Been Pregnant. EVERRRRR! Goddammmittttttt!!!!!!

I love the Tumblr Truthers. Share your thoughts, little insane ones.

Also, wasn't the word used "sectioned"? That word, yes, does mean 5150'd in England, but wouldn't it seem a LOT more likely the original speaker meant "C-sectioned" and some lunatic misunderstood and reported it as being hauled off to wherever, Britney Spears style?

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And the greatest thing about the Frauen, they actually have their future frau queen. Kate is going to be queen. It ain't Meghan, but the frauen are still a fucking panic that somebody else might have a royal baby. Calm down, bitches, it ain't gonna actually change anything.

r89 Is like a lost alzheimers-ridden grandmother, absentmindedly wandering the halls of Datalounge, settling down in one of the rooms and just babbling away about the last thing that came into her head.

R70 I smell PR bullshit with this story. Original story Wills and Kate were the first visitors, now its the Queen but later in the story she was there with other family members. I guess Kate getting that GCVO award from the Queen has sent MM into another narc rage. Maybe next time the Queen is there she can help deliver the baby for her and then they can all sit down to tea and do an interview with Oprah

Just trying to make our Frauen interlopers from tumblr feel at home R91

Kate is soooo boring. Much prefer Megan. Her baby will have a ginger afro and huge mad aquamarine eyes.

it's true r92, it's wheels within wheels and all LIES, dammit. There is no baby, there is no Meghan, there is no palace. Maybe there is no Queen, except of course there's a Queen, we like her. But there is no Meghan, ew, yuck. Negro.

Lol about the MM arrest on twitter, very, very unlikely. But also don’t believe the Queen visited either,

Lmao R95. Prince Philip is definitely a hologram at this point, too. He probably died in 1986.

seriously, there is a tumblr rumor about MM being arrested? really? oh, shit, funny. was the charge negritude?

R96, Morrissey got it right. The queen died in 1985.

Haha, it's like the Doria being super special specifically invited to Balmoral for Christmas, remember that one? The "stories," they all sound the same. Not much of a gift for imagination is the frogwhore.

The DM has never printed stories of every family visit for Kate. So is MM really the one giving these silly updates?

This is the longest public pregnancy on record. Like so many of Sparkle's actions, she overdoes things.

She announced way too early.

Padded, stroked and handled that bump weeks and months before Sussex baby was even as big as a walnut.

Sparkle's motto seems to be "More is better." More, more, more attention. Me, more me, more more me.

I don't think I am alone in thinking that More is just more. Not better.

Fame Whoring is Fame Whoring.

And any respect I had for Harry is long gone after watching him diminish personally at the same rate that his baldness increases.

I reserve all my sympathy for any child born to this pair of losers.

Poor kid.

R87, that’s what I thought too. I think someone saw the word “sectioned” and maybe had the Britney saga fresh in their mind and thought “committed.”

Cri de Frau!

How Dare THAT be pregnant for longer than the appointed time, or at least to announce it prematurely and thus seem to be pregnant beyond the appointed time! Feel MY PAINNN!

And seriously, bitch, Harry's baldness is the issue here? Seriously? Bitch?

R89 That looks like a heart attack casserole but it wrong of me to want to stuff that into my face?

[quote]Her baby will have a ginger afro and huge mad aquamarine eyes.

I can’t imagine any child of Harry’s having huge eyes.

I honestly don't think the Queen has favorites among her two grandsons, but if she does, come on, it's Harry. Just as she always liked Andrew so much more than Charles, it's probably Harry, and by extension his kids. But I'm not sure she plays favorites quite like that anymore.

R94 Huge aquamarine eyes? I think you are on the wrong thread, I'm sure there is one dedicated to the Night King and the latest episode of GoT

"All the times Prince Harry treated pregnant Meghan Markle like the queen that she is." -Hello Magazine

Wow. Smegs must be feeling really insecure.

They get further and further from the Throne, but they will be the fun cousins. They will probably have adventures and actually be the far more interesting branch of the family, while the dullards do their dullard thing.

They should look up the House of Orleans. They should have a crazy ass palace that is actually fun to be at, while the dullards have the dull palace doing the dull nonsense. This could actually work out well for everyone concerned.

R109 The Queen absolutely plays favourites and her favourite has always been and will be Peter Phillips. Despite him selling the pictures of his wedding she forgave him really quickly. Harry has never been a favourite. William and her have a more business type relationship, she has been advising him for a long time.

MEghan doesn't ride and isn't into horses, she's not athletic, doesn't play sports, doesn't shoot, can't imagine what she can contribute that would be in the least realm of "fun" for young blue bloods. Maybe weed? Is that what you mean by fun aunt? She'll be the morally bankrupt relative the kids go to for drugs and alcohol?

really, you think the height of fun these days is riding to hounds? come on. you know better than that. everyone does.

Salad-tossing lessons?

We're talking the Windsors R116. Are you daft?

Ummm, r116, riding a lovely horse as fast as it wants to go is a hell of a lot of fun. And to do it with a bunch of friends? Sound like AMAZING fun.

we're talking the 21st century r118. Are you trapped in an old black and white photo album? Diana hated all that shit and was absolutely right, and of course absolutely glamorous while hating every minute of that nonsense.

I’m becoming convinced that there are several surrogates and they will end up picking out two “twins” who are of lighter complexion and throw any inconvenient darkie babies into the broader adoption pool.

I'll admit it, r119. it could be fun, but it is just as much fun to hate that shit and like, oh, I don't know, anything more modern.

Fair enough, r122, but still, if you ever get the chance, do it. It's a great thing to experience that sense of bonding via speed with a good horse (and yes, they have 'personalities'). No feeling can quite match it.

I believe you r123. Most of us won't get that chance, but if we do, yeah, bonding with a horse is probably pretty wonderful.

Modern as in what R122, taking selfies in a bell tower?

Definitely - I only got the chance because my Aunt and Uncle owned a large tract of land that they allowed the neighbouring stables to use, so we got to exercise/ride the horses whenever we liked - I get that most people will never get the opportunity though.

Sorry, that was for r124

and that is cool, r126. I admit I'm a little jealous. that does sound fun.

And now that I feel like I'm in a Monty Python sketch: so it's agreed, we get to all ride to hounds, but let's also do some stuff for climate change, and for income inequality, and for civil rights, and let's come up with something about Brexit that isn't completely maniacal. Right!

R120 Diana didn't hate all that shit, she had a pony growing up and had an accident as a teen on a horse and after that wasn't interested. She made sure her boys could ride as soon as they could barely walk. Diana was the daughter of an Earl and high up on the totem pole in aristo circles, so of course she went on hunts and shooting. She may not have liked riding a horse but she was part of that world where they get their jollies from wearing their Le Chameau or Dubarry wellies and Barbour jackets stomping around their vast estates shooting random birds and getting the peasants to cook them.

she loved clothes and fashion shows and a whole different world. I suspect Meghan loves that whole world too, and that is okay. Maybe Kate has a different role, but Meghan should get to be glamorous and frivolous and bring a little style to the stuffy old House of Windsor. honestly, I think that would actually benefit everybody, and Kate just ain't the one to do that.

R130 That’s the first time that I’ve seen “Meghan”, “glamorous” and “style” in the one sentence.

Meg not being sporty is something I've pondered. It's one of the ways she wold feel left out in Harry's world. I wonder if she at least plays tennis?

Sorry, nothing stylish about MM. She thinks wearing expensive brands is stylish. She wears sample clothing that are five sizes too small.

R598 You don’t seem to be that much of an expert either. The name substitutes started with Victoria dumping Alexandrina in favour of her second name, and as an ‘up yours’ to her controlling mother. The other two didn’t want to use Albert as their moniker.

Something that always puzzled me about Diana: while separated from Charles, she supposedly had no intention of getting a divorce until the Queen demanded it, and then she was shocked. What did she THINK was going to happen?

Diana thought that divorce would be completely out of the question for the heir to the throne so that she would continue to live as HRH, only separated.

Some of her friends also claimed that she secretly hoped that Charles would try to get back together again.

When you look at the photos, past a certain point, Diana had incredible bling, assuming it was real gold and gems. Will Kate get that kind of budget for jewellery once she is PoW? Or was that an artefact of the 80s?

R136 Diana always held out hope they would get back together again despite his mistress and all her affairs. She ultimately was very childlike in her outlook of marriage and romance, she seemed to always be after a knight in shining armour who would care for her, maybe looking for a father replacement. What always baffled me was her belief Charles could love her, they went on about 10 dates, I think she called him sir for most of them. Surely somewhere in the recess of her mind she would have known he was only after an appropriate virginal bride. It all was very tragic

Talking about huge aquamarine eyes, imagine having a child who grew up to look like Freddie Windsor. He looks like an alien or circus freak.

R137 Diana wore a fair bit of costume jewellery too, but she does have a lot of bling that was given to her for her wedding etc Kate doesn't seem to like too much bling and William doesn't seem to keen to open the vault either. I wish some of the younger royals wore jewels like Queen Mary or the current Queen of the Netherlands, Maxima

I think Diana loved Charles until the day she died.

There is lots of tension regarding if MM is going to be arrested the Tumblr chicks and Toronto papers are on overdrive Tuesday is the day of reckoning. The end is nigh, beach, or just some sad hags trolling!

Meh- Meghan is not going to be arrested - some journo casually mentioned that she'd be 'sectioned', clearly, in this case meaning 'C-sectioned', and the tumblrinas are going as insane about it as the Megstans online go insane about Meghan all day, every day, just because her mother happened to be black.

I have no horse in the race and disagree that anyone who disses MM online is racist.

No, r144, I've not been saying that the people who question MM are racist. What I'm actually saying is that those who blindly love her are racist.

Well, that I can agree with. Her stans are loony toons and her haters re loony as well.

Sorry, r146, I'd love to agree with you for comity's sake, but her stans are about a billion times more loony than her haters. Her haters have genuine points, based on facts. Her stans have nothing aside from #KateHate and #YURRRRRWAYCISSSSS

Don’t you think its odd that neither Harry or Meghan congratuleted Kate and William on their Wedding . Nor on twitter or their ig account .

Whoa, still have not? I really think it is because they want to push the affair narrative.

Meghan is a petty little guttersnipe, r148, and she runs that pathetic IG account.

Did you expect Grace? Decency? Or even just Protocol?

R9 Eiderdown or perhaps a poly-cotton blend.

Yes she is R150 ! But If Kate and William would fail to do so all hell would brake loose .

Sorry “break “

@147 that's ok, as stated I have no horse in this race EXCEPT I m curious to see what goes down today and if Toronto papers will close down their twitter if MM doesn't have that long predicted shit show.

[quote] Her haters have genuine points, based on facts.

Absolutely!

What's celebitchy and the commentators taken on Kates new honour?

Most people who don't like her have valid criticisms, seriously she is like a soap opera villain with no self awareness. As for all these racist allegations, yes there are some but some Brits really just don't like anyone who is not British and it's nothing to do with skin colour, just ask the Irish, French, Germans etc

[quote] Most people who don't like her have valid criticisms

Totally! 🙏🏻♥️🐼🐼🐼

Cant wait to see if MM will be arrested or if TP1 will shut down her Twitter feed.

I think Torontopaper is a troll account.

But if Meghan has faked the pregnancy or used a surrogate, what’s the crime? It would be scandalous but would it break any UK laws?

R160, it's obviously a troll account. But to answer your question, I suppose someone could argue that she messed with the lines of succession (since I think a baby in the line of succession has to be "of the body"). But since they are so far from the crown now, it doesn't really matter. If all was done with RF knowledge and consent, nothing is probably wrong. If she did it to deceive, then it's probably a problem, but the RF would just cover it all up anyway. No arrest would happen.

R94 - The BRF found out with Diana just how much better boring is for survival.

Exciting is for film stars (or in this case, wannabee film stars).

Boring is for royalty.

Such a shame that Diana and her daughter in law never understood the distincti

Maybe she had an egg donor, or sperm donor and BRF may question legitimacy of being placed in line of succession.

I don’t understand how she has any freedom to get away with leaks, merching, etc. wouldn’t she be supervised? When the tweet or insta mentioned PH “performing” for crowds...dead give away source was an actress. she must see the British as her audience who are watching her show vs she is a rep for the BRF and working for the public.

R161 - Agree - torontopaper is a troll account and skippy is an unhinged lunatic who migrated over from the Cumbercrazycoven.

A quick glance at Skippy's mental blog shows that she's insisting that the media work with the BRF and that's why there's no story yet re Meghan being arrested, it will take a couple of days for the story to break, whilst more recent posts are moving carefully on, focussing on whether Harry looks better with or without a beard.

What the Internet has done is allow people who live quite some distance from Planet Earth to congregate together and reinforce their delusions through a community that feels that if so many others believe what they believe, it must be true, and those delusions can remain unchallenged.

DL, of course, is an exception - we at least regularly tell each other to stuff it.

Speaking of which, the surrogacy/not pregnant lunatics need to stuff it. She's either pregnant or gave birth recently and is busy working with photographers to produce THE most beautiful Madonna and Child images since the Pieta.

^*not the Pieta - must correct myself, that wasn't Madonna and Child, precisely, but you get my drift.

R164

Diana actually thought she could stay married after that TV interview she gave? Yeesh.

I liked her, but that was her worst moment. She even *looked* deranged, with those kohl-rimmed eyes.

In response to a faithful follower enquring whether Meghan has been arrested yet, Skipply replied:

"It seems she is in custody….this will take a couple of days I’m sure….things have to be set in motion…..let’s be patient. We have waited this long."

Why I continue to be shocked by stuff like this, I don't know.

They really believe that Prince Charles's nine-months' along daughter-in-law was taken into custody for dire crimes against the State.

It's true, the Internet has probably not been a good thing overall. And yes, at least on here we keep each other in check.

[quote]Don’t you think its odd that neither Harry or Meghan congratuleted Kate and William on their Wedding . Nor on twitter or their ig account

R166 - Diana's miscalculations were based on the same foundation that Meghan's are: that her "popularity" and the adoration of the public would insulate her from accountability for using her position for self-interest, and for failing to realise that it was the institution of monarchy that mattered, far more so than the fates of individual members.

Diana was undone by buying into her own press. Meghan Markle also believes her own press - but in her case, it really IS her "own" press - it isn't reflected in the sort of universal public adoration that built up around Diana. Meghan just isn't the star Diana was, for all Meghan's pretensions to same.

I'll never forget how, in the Dodi-dating days, my elderly mother one day, apropos of nothing, commented of Diana, "She's fading....." I thought that was an odd remark at the time, but she was right.

Is that story true, that shortly before the accident, Diana teased the paparazzi, saying, "You won't believe what I do next." If so, I wonder what it was? And boy, she was sadly more right than she could have known. Such a shame, the whole thing.

R170 "I'd like to be the queen of people's hearts" - remember how she said that? Very calculated, right up there with Jackie invoking Camelot. Obviously she wanted to be dubbed "Queen of Hearts," as opposed to the cold old real queen, but it didn't catch on. Swing and a miss. She got "People's Princess" instead, not too bad.

R172 - The "People's Princess" was Tony Blair's speechwriter's brainchild, and was first uttered the morning after Diana's death. She wasn't anointed any such thing until that moment.

As for the Queen of People's Hearts phrase from that deathless Bashir interview, you could hear the guffaws the next day from outer space.

DIANA: I think the British people need someone in public life to give affection, to make them feel important, to support them, to give them light in their dark tunnels.

It was the dark tunnels image that irritated me I'm afraid. So superior

Very prescient though

In fairness, Diana did do her Princess job very well in public. She never phoned it in.

I had the strangest dream last night.

I dreamt meghan lost the baby :(

VERY prescient. Diana seemed to be extremely intuitive. This sounded like a projection of her own despair, but it went beyond even that. Spooky. Like Natalie Wood and her "dark waters" fears. I have to say, those poor women, bless their souls.

R176 - I agree, but the irony is, that's what did her in, in the end. It's a textbook illustration of the pitfalls of the position, and it's a testament to Kate's shrewdness that she grasped it and avoided The Princess Star trap, and a testament to Meghan's stupidity that she doesn't seem to and married Harry to be The Princess Star, which backfired on Meghan much sooner than it did on Diana.

R147 are you serious that they’re equal? Did you read that Twitter? Both extremes are equally loony.

Yeesh, Diana's face in that Panorama interview. Talk about the bloom being well and truly off the rose.

R179 Very true. Kate somehow knows you have to protect yourself, stay reserved, shield your soul from extreme fame and loony fans. This is where having a solid, stable upbringing and good family support likely makes all the difference.

The air of mystery the Queen projects is extremely useful for someone in her position. She's uniformly pleasant and polite, but nobody really knows what she's thinking or how she feels. It's what allows her to be an icon rather than a person. Kate seems to be determinedly modeling herself on HM. Smart move.

R176 True Diana did a good job as Princess of Wales and unlike MM she was actually loved by the British people. This is MM's folly, she thinks she can be the next Diana but Diana did the hard yards for 15 years as Princess of Wales and was liked from the moment she got engaged. We all knew she was a bit of a loon but she was a loved loon plus she was old school aristocracy, daughter of an Earl. MM thinks she can be the Queen of Hearts just because she married Harry, poor dumb little bean is clueless. Even Diana with all her public support couldn't fight the Royal machine, MM has no chance especially with Lord Voldemort (Geidt) brought back in to sort out the mess.

R181 I was such a huge fan of Diana in those days but I remember cringing so many times in that Panorama interview, it was such a bad PR move and hardly any of her staff knew it was happening. Apparently William was furious and didn't speak to her for awhile after she did it, he couldn't believe how she betrayed everyone. That was the turning point for divorce proceedings.

William has his own mummy issues, especially since she used him as a confidante, an untenable position to put a young teenager in. It could also explain his instant dislike of Meghan Markle: She seems to have many of Diana's weaknesses without having her charm. And, of course, she's NOT William's mum.

R183 Yes, and I firmly believe Carole Middleton has been and continues to be the guiding hand here.

Starting to wonder if Philip is even going to live to see the birth of his great-grandbébé

Not sure who said it, and can’t be arsed to scroll up - but it’s entirely untrue that Brits don’t like foreigners.

Obviously, we have our fair share of xenophobes, racists and ranting nationalists but they are too few in number to form part of our national identity.

We’re actually one of the most inclusive, welcoming nations on Earth - probably only the Scandi nations (who are saintly in every way) beat us on that score.

No one cares that Markle is an American, bi-racial, divorced former actress. Everyone...and I mean EVERYONE...that expresses misgivings about her talks about her clearly marrying Harry for the fame.

It’s so tiresome to keep reading that we’re all a bunch of knuckle-dragging bigots furious that our precious royal bloodline is going to get a touch of African American pollution.

Most people don’t give a flying fuck about the royals anyway - they are there for entertainment purposes only so the inclusion of someone new and different is a good thing. But some arrogant newbie clearly determined to outshine everyone is never going to go down well. Most of us don’t like people like that in real life so why would we like it in someone famous?

The Queen is personality type ISTJ - introverted, sensing, thinking, judging. So am I. I've read that she can detect insincerity in a person with lightening quick accuracy - so can I. The BRF have known for generations that the key to stay about any possible controversy is to do and say as little as possible. DON'T ever give them something to talk about. As far as Diana goes, it appears that some of may be forgetting that she was a Master media manipulator. She learned the game quickly and played it like a champ, but no one is a match for the BRF machine. During the Panorama interview, I still believe that she was greatly manipulating the public perception of it all to her advantage. Saying that in spit of it all, she still didn't want to end her marriage is bull shit. She was inviting the other side to make the move toward divorce thereby relieving herself of the blame - and that's what the whole interview was about. Personal damage control. Neither of them wanted to be married anymore, and she also wanted to be free from the BRF. "The Firm" is sort of like the mafia.

The toronto paper twitter acct hasn't updated since Boom! I think it will quietly slink away.

Found this on another thread.

Oh dear.

R191, it definitely looks like a prank site... pulled in a bunch of gullible Meghan hating loons, and had some fun at their expense.

Silence from the Instagram account again today? There is no way she's not having this baby now.

I won't be surprised if Meghan has already had the baby, is having the baby today or doesn't have it for another week. All of these scenarios are possible and roughly within the timeline we were given.

^didn't mean to have "thoughts" at the bottom, but thoughts are always good!

IF the Queen and Cambridges have actually visited Harry and Meghan at their home, she's already HAD the baby. They wouldn't visit if she's still pregnant.

I think people give Diana far too much credit. “Master media manipulator”? Not really.

She wasn’t that bright but she knew full well that her media image of adoring children & “just wanting to love people” worked for her so went with it.

Harry is the same...”The People’s Prince who JUST CAN’T WAIT TO BE A DAD SO GIVE THAT MAN A BABY!” gets headlines and lots of “awwwwws” from Twitter cretins, so simply makes a beeline for the nearest small child. I don’t think he adores children anymore than the average 34 year old man does.

Markle is more PR savvy - but her campaign is entirely unsuited to both Britain and the BRF. If she’d married Brad Pitt or even Elon Musk (I just bet she’s tried to meet him...at least before he started unravelling) her “humanitarian” shit would have gone down better & been slightly more appropriate.

But neither Diana nor Harry have the smarts to think up ways of manipulating the media. Just a pair of performing monkeys who notice which action gets the most applause/banana treats so keeps doing it.

I thought the press info said the media would be informed when she was in labour so they could start congregating in Windsor Great Park. That hasn’t happened yet.

I still think she’s having an elective c-section which is why they want to wait a few days before having a photo call with one photographer (which she’ll probably be sitting down for).

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I just watched the tv documentary on Princess Margaret. Girl was wild! Which leads me to question - why is all this focus on MM so negative? Slumming is nothing the RF ain’t seen before.

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R202 Good for him if he is. The way his cunt daughter has treated him is despicable.

For R200:

Photos of Charles in Scotland.

Lady Allegra.

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I agree, I hope the dad is getting paid for his photos. If he’s going to be shunned, he might as well get something out of it.

Queen Mary sure liked her pearl chokers.

Allegra is actually very pretty. And a little theatrical and pretentious, I could see Meg going for it. And of course the “tribute to Di” aspect.

Many threads ago, somebody suggested Viola. I really liked that: Lady Viola Mountbatten-Windsor would be lovely.

The Queen deep in thought.

Lady Allegra sounds like a Marvel character left over from Asgard. And Queen Mary had a neck longer than Ivanka Trump's, which is saying something.

Lady Diana Spencer on her engagement to Charles.

Prince Louis the Cover Boy!

Good snarky read time, if you fancy it.

Louis looks forceful and energetic, future action man.

Diana bought her engagement suit off the rack. No wonder she looked like a stewardess.

This baby, if a girl, will undoubtedly have the name Mary. It ticks ALL of ME's boxes: An "M" name like Meghan's to pass her engraved Cartier tank watch to Meghan herself stated in an interview; egotistically blends the names Harry and Meghan; namesake of Her Majesty's very own grandmother; suitably acceptable name for the offspring of a prince of the realm; it's a been the names of queens for God's sake... really, it's patently obvious.

It's been the NAME of queens.

R220, you make a good case.

Mary Madyssen Markle Mountbatten

It won’t be Allegra.

Too many Brits drove Austin Allegras for the first cars. It’s almost shorthand for “shit car”.

Although...Google tells me it was actually Allegro, but I bet lots of people would make the same mistake.

We haven't had a Martha thrown in, or have we? Deffo going with an M.

Yep...just checked DM comments, and everyone’s talking about an Austin Allegra(o).

It’s also apparently an allergy medication in the US...and someone on the DM says that’s a good idea because we’re all becoming allergic to Meghan!

Another suggestion is Little Alimony Windsor.

Hee hee.

Alimony Windsor for the win!

Mary Elizabeth Diana.

Done.

I know!

Rachel Mary Elizabeth Diana!

If the brothers' feud is truly over (I doubt it), then name the girl Lady Wilhelmina after Prince William the Duke of Cambridge.

And if it's not over Lady Rose . Yikes.

Easy peasy blind revealed . Waiting for the comments to roll in....

TUESDAY, APRIL 30, 2019 Blind Items Revealed #4 April 21, 2019

Don't believe the hype. The talk is Africa, but why is there a Palace employee accompanying a real estate agent around town in Los Angeles looking for a home in the $10M range.

Meghan Markle/Prince Harry POSTED BY ENT LAWYER AT 9:40 AM

Isn’t Mary a bit, um.....religious?

I don’t believe that blind. How would anyone know it was a “palace official”?

“Good day to you. I am Nigel Ponsonby-Smythe of Kensington Palace, London, looking for a multi-million dollar mansion for two completely anonymous clients”..

No.

I think Markle planted it.

OH NO!!!, R234

WE DON"T WANT THEM.

YOU MARRIED HER, YOU KEEP HER! AND HIM TOO!

WE HAVE TOO MANY FAME WHORES AS IT IS.

AND, YES, I'M SHOUTING!!!

Mary as a name is old fashioned and a tad 'below stairs'.

I am really looking forward to this baby being born!

R236, good one. I am laughing out loud.

Somehow I don't think Harry, Meghan, nor the BRF give a rat's ass what R239 feeble mind may perceive. And someone called the name Mary religious? Really, the level of ignorance borne on these threads is staggering.

I just have to add: the way MM pets that bump of hers.....she truly must think that she is the first woman ever to carry a child in her womb!

The baby's name could be "Mary" but she could be called by a cute nickname such as Molly, Maisie, Polly, or what have you.

R76, you make a good case for Will and Kate to stop at three.

Still, their offspring are so lovely, I would love to see them have one more.

R242 has obviously never set foot in a Catholic church. And we are talking perception, optics and in this case branding. Don’t be so confidently stupid.

Mary has none of the star power favoured by obnoxious one. I don't think so, anyway.

I am liking Maisie more and more!

Maisie eats oats! Little lambs eat ivy.

Unless, Brits help me out her, is Maisie too Irish?

R243, the way Meghan has been petting that bump of hers, it must be a real baby in there!

I believe Maisie is a Scottish nickname for Margaret.

Yes, the GOT actress Maisie Williams is actually a Margaret.

R252, R253. Thanks.

Well, "May" could be a nickname for "Mary"!!

MARY! I actually do like the name. There is something there, that sounds so fair. It’s a grand old name.

My wild card guesses for Baby SussexSoho:

Boy: Maverick, Earl Dumbarton (after Megsy, the Shit Disturber)

Girl: Lady Nevaeh (that's "heaven" spelled backwards since Megsy is such a close friend of the Archbishop of Canterbury).

Maisie is also a nickname/ version of Mairéad, which is the Irish version of Margaret.

The only women named “Mary” I’ve ever known were Catholic. Just anecdotal. It’s a nice enough name, though.

She could go with Mary. Then she could say:

Married in May. Then, Mary in May.

Ah! Maybe she could name the baby Margaret, after Q. Elizabeth's late sister?

(And Margaret is closely related to Meaghan, so MM's ego would be fed as well!)

R257, there is a baby name "Maisie" in "Angela's Ashes" by Frank McCourt. That's why I thought it might be Irish!

But no! The baby will be given a gender neutral name like:

Dylan Jordan Stardust!

To change the subject, you have to admit that that Camilla made out like a bandit.

Is spending her twilight years with her true love. Is well thought of by the RF. And has her own kids and grandkids that are non-royals.

Sorry if this has been pointed out earlier by other DLers.

She checkmated Diana in the end.

Agree, r263. She has a nice life.

Yes, Camilla made the best of a bad situation. If she had been Charles’ mistress and then gone on to be a shrew of a wife, that would be one thing. But she’s proven she was the one for him all along.

She reminds me of a low-key Patsy Stone.

R263, I agree. In 40 years, Camilla will be the heroine of the movies made about the trio. She was willing to let another woman have the glamour, riches, fame, title associated with Charles, while she was willing to settle for just the man himself. And eventually, he chose her over the younger, more conventionally beautiful and fashionable woman.

Poor Di.

Timelines, stuff announced too early, all this is typical CT fare. I hope the kid is very visibly mixed race but with Harry's bright blue eyes, to shut up the likes of spazzy Skippy.

Name will be Alice as she can say she was also named after black heroine Alice Walker.

Well, I just hope MM learns a lesson from her late mom-in-law.

Never ignore your Security Personnel from the Palace!

Name will be Lady Alice Diana Repulsita Windsor.

R268 so sad. You could just see from the very beginning that there was Zero chemistry between the two of them.

The name "Frances" could be used, as it was Di's middle name!

Any pics of Meg's boob job?

You young Dlers cannot imagine how much of a bummer the late 90s were.

We lost our 2 favorite celebs : Lady Di and JFK Jr. in as many years....:((((

Does anyone think that if Di had only stayed calm and carried on, Charles would eventually have found the Camilla situation to be more effort than it was worth? Or would the three of them have gone on in the marriage forever? Would he have come to have more admiration for Diana if she’d kept her cool? I can’t decide if Diana just loved him too much, or if her ego was too affronted by the affair. Probably both. And I suppose the prospect of being queen wasn’t enough, not if you have to wait another 20 or 30 years to get there. She must have felt like a massive failure, though, like she let everybody down.

I’ve said this before, but wouldn’t it be something if the baby looked like a mixed-race Diana?

Frances is not a bad guess, it even has the Frances Bean hipster cachet. By the way, was it Kurt and Courtney who started the whole thing of parents calling their kids, including Miss Markle, “bean”? I know at least one couple who call their son the bean. Yech.

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R268 Diana’s upward gaze was really something, so much a part of her persona, inimitable.

Jackie O in 94, Versace killed in 97, Diana dead just a few weeks later, JFK Jr and his wife gone in 99.

R279, she had charisma and she decided to use it for her humanitarian interests towards the end of her life.

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And that’s the endless fascination of Diana. So lovable and so exasperating all at once.

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Even though Diana was no longer part of the Royal Family, she continued to make very public appearances for charities. This is what MM is going to do.

There are already three "A" princess in The Netherlands. Maxima and Willem had three girls: Amalia (actually birth-name Catherine Amalia, but they call her Amalia), Alexa, and Ariane. If they name the Sussex baby Allegra, she will sound like a fourth Dutch princess. Also, it sounds too much like a West End marquee name for my taste.

Sorry, my “upward gaze” comment was for R278

R277 - Yes, I think so. If she'd been a bit calmer and more sophisticated, instead of hysterical and obsessive, Diana probably would have seen Camilla off eventually, given her youth and beauty. But Diana was so obsessive that instead she drove Charles out of his mind trying to get him to be the endless source of love and admiration she craved - she really drove him back into Camilla's arms.

How about a classic British name like Mavis or Beryl?

How about Lady Delores Agnes Mountbatten-Windsor?

I like

Lady Margaret Rose Lady Elizabeth Anne

Lord Charles Henry

3 names is tacky. Adding on Rose appears passive aggressive but it was in fact Princess Margaret middle name. To be catty call a male baby Lord William Henry Mountbatten-Windsor and call him "The Barker"

Angelina Jolie was the first celeb that I can recall overtly copying Diana.

Margaret Elizabeth Catherine!

Heather Mills copied her too.

The Vauxhall Allegra is unfortunate although I like Allegra - like Angelica and Allegra Houston

Polo wrecks havoc! Even Princes have bad hair days - well, at least they had hair at the time.

Who remembers Diana's brother Charles and his eulogy at her funeral?

At the time, I admired him for his boldness in critiquing the BRF, but now that I am older, he sounds like a huge ass!

True, R294.

R296, I remember all the emotion his speech brought forth. It seemed like the House of Windsor would never recover from the damage to their reputation, but they have.

I’ve always thought that if Diana had stayed around, Jolie’s humanitarian career might not have been possible. Not enough room on that stage for two divas, though Madge did vie with Jolie.

Prince Charles was sexy once.

Before I knew what a "slut" Andy was, I felt sorry for Diana that she got the older, less handsome brother.

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R297 R296 - What Earl Spencer omitted from his histrionic speech is that he refused Diana permission to use the guest house on the Althorp estate for that summer, saying he was afraid the press intrusion would be difficult for his family. Diana, literally, had no place to go for the summer. If he'd given her the place, she might not have been thrown back on Dodi Fayed. And although Spencer made a huge thing about being William's and Harry's "blood family" (as if, forsooth, they had been adopted by the Windsors instead of born to the next Windsor King), Spencer moved his family to South Africa and had very little to do with the two boys growing up. They barely know their Spencer cousins. It was a given that the boys would be Windsors to the bone, raised by and with Windsors, not Spencers. It's Zara and Peter Phillips that Harry and William are close to, not Lady Kitty Spencer and her siblings and half siblings.

Charles Spencer was not just an ass, but a pompous hypocrite into the bargain.

Yeah, Charles Spencer made a big splash with that speech because everyone was so upset about Diana's death and had the knives out for the Windsors. But a lot of what he said was total bullshit.

Too bad we don't see Charles' son Louis Spencer in the news more: He's a hottie.

Spot on R302 and histrionic is absolutely the right word

R273 - "[R268] so sad. You could just see from the very beginning that there was Zero chemistry between the two of them.'

It was plain as day. No man who was really in love with the fiancee he was presenting to the world would have uttered that haunting, "Whatever 'in love' means," with that malicious little smile on his face. When asked about her reaction to his statement later, Diana, just said, "I thought, 'Least said, soonest mended.'"

He went into that marriage hoping for the best because she was young, pretty, inexperienced, and adoring. But by the time of that photocall, he looked very much what he was: a man cornered.

Where is that baby?

Would love to hear what Angelina really thinks of the not-much-younger, cable television actress who managed to marry into the BRF and catapult herself onto the "global humanitarian" stage in 60 seconds or less.

R306 - Lady Bracknell, is that you?

What Charles wanted was a marriage like his grandparents': a warm, loving, supportive wife who fulfilled her public duties perfectly while being a strong shoulder for the insecure husband to lean on. Diana wanted the same thing in male form.

They say every relationship has a gardener and a rose: Charles and Diana were two roses in desperate search of a gardener.

I also remember the global outpouring of grief when Diana died. We've never seen anything like it since.

R305, agree with you one hundred percent.

But for the press to ask PC "Are you in love?" is a really stupid question.

I meant to say every SUCCESSFUL relationship has a gardener and a rose. Lots of unsuccessful rose/rose pairings, though two gardeners could work.

R302 I was just going to post exactly the same, but you were more eloquent. I remember watching the funeral (I was 10) and that speech getting an ovation from the crowds and attendees. Her brother really was loathsome and a liar. I remember she was barely speaking to a lot of her family when she died.

He also made sure he had her buried at the country estate where he could charge admittance for the public to see his sisters resting place. Shameless.

And let's get real, the relationship between Diana and Dodi was not going to last....

Maybe Prince George will marry a girl unlike his mummy and gift us with another charismatic, glamourous Princess with a passion for humanitarian issues.

That surrogate is taking her sweet time! Come on!

[quote]all this is typical CT fare.

Hey, leave us out of this!

I'm going back to posting pictures of Charles and Di. Here he is having a private moment with Camilla.

The other Nutmegger, I meant to say.

Ouch, R318.

*snigger*

No chemistry at all...

Does the Queen appreciate Kate more since Meghan arrived on the scene? Sometimes you don't know how good you have it.

R321, the old fart can't even pretend to put his arm around her.

R311 - I take your point, but perhaps the press who had followed Charles around for so long knew him better than the public did, and thought it a fair, if inconvenient, question. They often do know a good bit about the people they follow that they don't necessarily share.

You have to factor in that as the seventies closed, and Charles went past thirty, his need to marry, and marry soon, and marry someone suitable, had become nearly a constant topic in the media of the day. No one close to them thought he'd fallen madly in love with Diana. She was more or less crowned the winner of the world's royal sweepstakes at the time, not the Queen of Starry-Eyed Love.

R321 - Don't go simples on us. That picture was a photocall and they are looking out at a crowd of photographers. The relationship was already in trouble.

The Charles/Diana engagement interview is really interesting, when you watch the whole thing. The 'in love' question was clearly rhetorical, and all Charles had to do was nod and say something facile. Strange that he couldn't bring himself to lie.

Reporter: "Can you find the words to sum up how you feel today, both of you?"

Charles: "Difficult to find the right sort of word isn't, it really?" (turns to Diana, who nods). "Just delighted and happy . . . and I'm just amazed that she's been brave enough to take me on." (Charles and Diana giggle)

Reporter: "And, I suppose, in love?"

Diana: "Of course."

Charles (grinning/grimacing): "Whatever 'in love' means. . . put your own interpretation on it."

Reporter (speaking quickly): "Well, it obviously means two very happy people."

Charles: "Yes . . ." (mumbles something unintelligible); Diana (speaking at the same time): "Yes, as you can see."

Reporter (rushing to end it): "Once again, congratulations."

Younger brother Charles Spencer has 7 children by 3 women.

Make of that what you will.

R321 - Unless you meant the caption literally, in which case, apologies.

R324

R326 - As husband material, Charles Spencer probably makes Charles Windsor look good.

Diana was really at a crossroads in the summer of 1997. She had headline-grabbing humanitarian work with the anti-landmine initiative on one side, and then she had tabloid flash with the likes of Dodi Fayed on the other. Her friends at the time thought Dodi was just a distraction, and soon enough she would move on to someone more substantial. Interesting to think that if she'd made a couple of different choices that night and never ended up in that tunnel, she might have gone on to meet the right man and do really important work. OR, maybe she would have spiraled down into Fergie territory. It could have gone either way.

Remember Marie Astrid of Luxembourg?

Gossip in the late 70s said she might marry Charles, but alas, she was Catholic.

People also brought up the Grimaldi girls, but they had the same problem.

Caroline and Charles?

It is to laugh!

If Dickie Mountbatten had lived, the Charles/Diana thing wouldn't have happened. He was determined to marry Charles to his granddaughter, Amanda Knatchbull, even though Amanda is Charles' second cousin, and the last thing that family needs is more inbreeding.

If Diana had worn her seat belt she'd be on her second face-lift by now.

If she'd lived, Diana had just enough time to marry again and have perhaps 1-2 more children. It's interesting to wonder if she would've managed it.

IWhy don't celebrities who use surrogates just admit they use surrogates instead of doing the moonbump route?

Answering my own question: because many of these are beard marriages and the admission of a surrogate just keeps the gay stuff alive? And the babies were created for only one purpose - he (or she) isn't gay? A surrogate would defeat that purpose.

Otherwise if you're infertile that's no shame. If you have issues carrying, that's no shame either.

NO R333, Dickie had failed in that ambition. Supposedly when Charles was going through his "getting turned down by everyone" stage he decided to actually ask Amanda finally, and she said no thanks.

Yes, but didn't Charles ask Amanda after Mountbatten's death? That would have made all the difference.

R332, Charles actually had the inevitable meet and greet with Caroline Grimaldi at some gala dinner thing. He was not impressed, thought she had bad skin. That was the end of that.

That encounter is not nearly as funny as Dick Nixon trying desperately to get his daughter Tricia to ignite sparks with PC.

Charles had all the time in the world to ask Amanda prior to Dickie's death and he never did. It seems to me the only reason he asked her afterwards was the mourning for his uncle plus not having much success elsewhere.

Wasn't Caroline Europe's first topless-nightclub-dancing-princess? Would be hard to see how the Windsors would let her join their family back in the day.

Amanda was only 22 when her grandfather died, so perhaps Charles thought she was too young? Of course, Diana was only 20 when they got together, but he was desperate by then.

Andrew visiting WaveOptic headquarters.

Bad skin as a reason to reject Caroline? Must have been a polite excuse ...

Andrew doing what the royals do best - trying to look interested.

I remember when the engagement was announced me and my friends couldn't believe she would marry that older ugly guy. i was a few years younger so we were in the same age range. We figured she just wanted to be Queen one day. The Windsors were a lot more mysterious and untouchable. Unlike the Grimaldis. I still think she wanted to be queen, but I think she was a teenager who convinced herself she was in love with him and it would be a fairy tale. I don't think she wanted a divorce. I think she wanted the BRF to make Camilla go away and the affair stop so there could be a happy ending. That's why she complained there were three in the marriage. Even at the time it was unthinkable that the heir to the throne would get divorced. Most people thought they would be made to work it out. I think Diana thought that too.

I don't think Charles ever really wanted to marry anybody except Camilla. That was the tragedy of his younger years.

Andrew is a dead ringer for HM in that picture.

R339, apparently Nixon also tried to set Tricia up with George W Bush.

The problem with Charles Spencer's speech was it was both grandiose and incoherent. "Your blood family?" the Windsors are also their blood family.

And he's denied Diana access to Althorp because it was too much trouble. She needed a place to go to retreat, and her family home was logical, but Charles ruled it off. She often went up to Scotland to see her mother but that was a haul.

Her mother was angry that Prince Charles didn't take her to Paris when he went to retrieve the body. Made no sense to her since he took the sisters.

Diana was awfully naive for an Earl's daughter, especially the child of divorce. Did she really expect Charles to be faithful? I thought most aristocrats had more sophisticated attitudes when it came to marital fidelity.

Was Tricia hard up, or was Dick Nixon just super controlling?

The Charles and Caroline of Monaco meeting made the cover of Point De Vue.

Another Charles and Caroline meeting.

Another Charles and Caroline meeting.

Are the Monaco and British Royal Families related at all?

I wonder how well they made her up in Paris for the viewing? Didn't she get elbalmed because it was a hot day and she started to go off

Prince Andrew or HM?

Diana was someone who I think was sort of naive by nature, in a way that would not have modified by her class, and naive, at the time, by the simple fact of being a teenager. Wasn't she a huge fan of romance novels? You can see how it was almost a perfect storm of ill-suited personality traits when it came to the marriage between them.

I do wonder how much the memory of how botched Charles' own first marriage was cowed the RF into meekly accepting Meghan, who I believe will also prove to be an ill-suited match for Harry.

Diana met Caroline of Monaco too.

I wish the surrogate would hurry up already!

I think Harry being sixth in line gave him a lot of leeway in choosing a wife. After all, they let Princess Margaret marry a photographer who was only aristocrat adjacent, as well as being a bisexual slut.

Dick Nixon was a guy from a poor background who became president and thought his daughter becoming Princess of Wales would be his own epic Cinderfella story. Charles supposedly complained that during the visit he couldn't turn around without Tricia foisted upon him.

R342, Casting one's eye over Charles' physical type, they are all of a type and neither Amanda nor Caroline of Monaco fit the mold. He liked the healthy, jolly, strongly built, fresh air looking type who was either blonde haired or light brown haired. Whatever the differences between Camilla and Diana in face and in age, they were both well-endowed, "healthy" British blondes. Dale Tyron ("Kanga") was Australian, but in that same mold. Toothy! Jolly! Healthy! Blonde! And if you were not blonde, but were built like Sheila Ferguson, it's still the same type. Toothy! Smiley! Leggy (healthy, strong legs!) A nice rack! Fun! Jolly! Amanda also seemed rather introspective and more serious.

Sultry (Caroline Grimaldi) and kind of brunette and thin (Amanda) wasn't his natural inclination.

I think Harry being currently unmarriagable for a whole raft of reasons probably led to him making a business arrangement and it also turning out that his business partner was a thirsty grifter.

Let's be honest: Charles likes horsey women.

When I read Charles dated a black celebrity (one of those articles pinned on the hook "Harry isn't the first royal to have an interracial relationship!) I googled Sheila Ferguson. If she had been some reed-like, reserved, elegant type I'd have been dubious but as soon as I saw that big smile and bustline there was no question.

I faithfully followed Charles' bachelor days in my youth and my favorite of his girlfriends was this gorgeous blonde named Davina Sheffield.

R366 is on to something. Tiggy Legge-Bourke has a healthy bust, unlike Diana.

Sabrina Guinness was also a gf of Prince Charles.

So, the worst mistake Diana could have made was losing all the weight during the engagement and early marriage days. She looked positively waif-like at times, and that was the opposite of the strapping type Charles likes.

And who can forget that Charles once dated Diana's older sister, Lady Sarah Spencer.

Young Barbara Streisand, whom Charles also had a big crush on, sort of fits his type.

Diana and Sarah resembled each other because they both looked more like their father. The middle sister Lady Jane looked more like the mother.

She does look horsey, R372.

Diana was the obvious beauty in that family, though. Even when young, her other siblings were fairly plain.

Photos of Diana and her sisters laughing in a car. Both of Diana's sisters had reddish hair (hello Harry). Diana and her brother were blonds.

My favorite photo of Diana and Sarah.

Diana's father was a fine looking man in his youth.

If we're talking family resemblances, Diana looked a great deal like her American great-great-grandmother, Frances Work.

Any takers that MM would go with a “global appeal” name so something Muslim-ish? Maali means ‘noble things’. Ma’isah means ‘walking with a proud, swinging gait‘ - very apropos for the hooker strut duchess.

Neither William or Harry was quite the looker like Diana's father.

The problem with Charles is that he is probably longing for his mummy to show him love. In the interim (and it's been a long interim), he's happy to bury himself in a buxom lady with horsey appeal.

The Romanovs aren't the only royals who were left to their fate by the BRF.

Leopold III of Belgium was facing death at the hands of the Nazis. Queen Wilhelmina asked the BRF for help but George VI said, "Sorry, no can do !"

Diana didn't make any of those silent calls, it was Paul Burrell!

R381, Harry gets his looks from his Spencer grandfather.

There's a rumor that Diana's real biological father was Sir Jimmy Goldsmith.

Johnnie Spencer was considered a catch back in the day: handsome, titled, etc. Lots of aristocratic mamas picked him out for their daughters. He was unofficially engaged to Lady Anne Coke when he met Frances Fermoy. Frances was good-looking and had money, and that sealed the deal: She was only 18 when they married, and endured six pregnancies in nine years to give Spencer the son he wanted. One of the pregnancies ended in miscarriage and one son died at birth, leaving the four Spencer children we know about.

Considering the circumstances, it's not surprising the marriage collapsed.

The three Spencer nieces of Diana - Ladies Kitty and twins Amelia and Eliza.

R386, I think Harry looks too much like a Spencer for that to be true, but Diana and Jemima do look like sisters!

R386 - Diana looks too much like Earl Spencer for this rumor to be true.

R388, those girls look like Hugh Hefner girls.

Pretty but generic-looking.

R380 I could see that, definitely. At least for a middle name. She and Harry might well pay tribute to Africa somehow.

The Spencer nieces were - um- are buxom.

Isn't "Kitty" a whore's name?

So, what I take away from all of this is that Prince Charles would find his Spencer nieces hot.

R395, indeed, but in a chaste and grandfatherly way. Not in a tamponish way.

Diana was the epitome of strapping in that blue dress she wore at the engagement interview, and then especially in the black strapless Emanuel gown she wore for her first post-engagement appearance with Charles.

Then leading up to the wedding she dumped a ton of weight.

P.S., also in Streisand's favor is a superficial resemblance to Princess Anne.

I thought Kitty must stand for Katherine, but apparently her name is just Kitty.

"Johnnie Spencer was considered a catch back in the day: handsome, titled, etc. Lots of aristocratic mamas picked him out for their daughters. He was unofficially engaged to Lady Anne Coke when he met Frances Fermoy. Frances was good-looking and had money, and that sealed the deal: She was only 18 when they married, and endured six pregnancies in nine years to give Spencer the son he wanted. One of the pregnancies ended in miscarriage and one son died at birth, leaving the four Spencer children we know about.

Considering the circumstances, it's not surprising the marriage collapsed."

Considering the son she birthed that lived was Charles Spencer, what a wasted effort.

Both Fergie and Diana had moms that left their dads for a lover!

I don't think we can appreciate just how scandalous that must have been!

R339 I have read the Caroline “bad skin“ thing in at least one other place, I think it was the Andy Warhol diaries. I don’t get it. She was stunningly beautiful back then. And still very attractive today, to her credit has not had a lot of obvious work done. I know she suntanned and smoked, but still.

Then again I’m a big Caroline fan, I remember when she was the it girl princess, before Diana.

Caroline would have known how to hold her own against Charles.

The Spencer girls don’t have Diana’s long nose.. It’s what took Diana from merely pretty to aristocratic beauty.

Princess Caroline has had a lot of handsome boyfriends:

Robertino Rossellini, tennis star Guillermo Vilas, movie star Vincent Lindon.

I don't care for her pissing-in-public third husband.

Absolutely R402, Caroline seems very tough and capable. Youthful marriage and antics aside.

Sorry, he urinated in public.

R367 - Davina Sheffield was Diana with brains and gusto. It might have been a decent match but one of her boyfriends, I think, maliciously blabbed to the tabs when they were dating, and that was the end of that. Charles and Amanda Knatchbull were never an item (although it is true Earl Mountbatten would have loved it) and were spectacularly uninterested in each other.

In a system of primogeniture, the eldest son is always spoiled rotten. When you get an only son after five unsuccessful tries, you get Charles Spencer.

You can see the difference even in the education of the Spencer siblings: Charles got Eton and Oxford, Diana got finishing school and a nannying job. It wasn't just her lack of academic bent, either. Jane Spencer was very brainy and never went to Oxford, either.

Ironic that Davina Sheffield and Sarah Spencer were jettisoned for ending up in the tabs, and Diana ended up being queen of the red tops.

If the Royals had been a little less choosy in the 70s, Charles would have ended up with a better match.

R370 this photo is from a period of time after her marriage that Diana got very skinny, unattractively so. It looked even worse with that straight hair, accentuated her nose. They say it’s because Charles upset her and worsened her bulimia. I suspect that more likely she became fascinated with pictures of herself in newspapers, started getting into fashion, got the idea she looked “fat“ and got a little overzealous with the dieting. I bet that’s something that happens to people who suddenly find themselves in the public eye.

Fortunately she corrected it pretty quickly and from then on always had I thought a perfect figure. She even allowed herself to have curves, just the right amount.

[quote][R242] has obviously never set foot in a Catholic church. And we are talking perception, optics and in this case branding. Don’t be so confidently stupid.

If R246 is going to bring up Catholicism (which the BRF are not BTW, duh), along with Mary the names Elizabeth, Catherine, Barbara, Judith, Maria, etc. are just as "religious." You are seeing dragons in windmills making up shit. And how obtuse of you to forget England already had a Queen Mary regnant who decidedly was NOT Catholic.

Again, the ignorance, staggering...

Well, Mary I was very Catholic (barbecued quite a few Protestants in the process), but I take R411's point.

[quote] Diana did a good job as Princess of Wales and unlike MM she was actually loved by the British people. This is MM's folly, she thinks she can be the next Diana but Diana did the hard yards for 15 years as Princess of Wales and was liked from the moment she got engaged.

Someone needs to introduce the Spencer girls to the concept of lowlights. Playboy bunny blonde isn't a great look.

Good grief R411 - You need to be extremely careful of what you post if you’re going to call other people ignorant.

Queen Mary (aka Bloody Mary) was about as Catholic as you can get - fanatically so.

That is Mary I you tool. Not Mary II. SMDH

R411 You seem very worked up about this. Calm the fuck down. You miss my point entirely, this discussion being about what names Harry and Meghan would choose, and why, from their standpoint. Now, shoo!

And lest we forget King George V's own consort Queen Mary, DL's beloved grand dame of the sticky fingers.

Besides, it isn't a matter of Catholic vs Protestant--in spite the idiot upthread bringing up Catholic churches--it is the idea that the name Mary is somehow perceived as a"religious" moniker.

And you can calm your own fuck down R417 if you are taking facts alternative tact.

“Facts alternative tact”, R419?

R418 why does a passing reference to the Catholic church make me an idiot? Madonna mia!

[quote]You miss my point entirely, this discussion being about what names Harry and Meghan would choose, and why, from their standpoint.

Harry's own great-grandmother's given is... gee Mary.

FFS, so I am blind and we can't edit. I taking inferring is beyond your ken?

My point is this, Mary is not considered a "religious" name anymore than Elizabeth.

It's a term for a woman's bush, where I'm from.

R411 Mary I of England was Catholic and so fanatically violent against Protestants she earned the name “Bloody Mary” - she is the original.

lol, R414.

That sounds like it could be a good parody article:

If Clairol Hair Color gave its product truthful names:

Playboy Bunny Blonde, Streetwalker Red, Vampyra Black.

R422 So? Times have changed.

Having said that, I love the name “Mary.” Which is a name strongly associated with ......ahhh, never mind. Idiot will just come back with, “But Mary is no more religious than Jesus or Kayla!”

Moving on, I wonder how Meghan is doing in the Tower?

I'm sure Meghan and her pillowbaby are sure to be deported any second!

The Tumblr crazies might be worth following just to see the pretzel logic after Meghan emerges from purdah with the kid.

R427,

Dog Shit Brown. Cat Piss Gold.

Let me preface this by saying I absolutely believe Meghan Markle is pregnant.

BUT, if someone in her position did fake a pregnancy, no crime would have actually been committed, right? Lying isn't necessarily a crime: sometimes it's just shitty behavior. Just like it's not a crime to fake your own death as long as you don't destroy property or commit insurance fraud.

A fake Royal pregnancy would be a huge scandal, but that's not the same as a crime.

Lady Mary Margaret Windsor

Lady Alice Elizabeth Frances Windsor

Goodness, Over two hundred posts in five hours. I was certain she had dropped the sprog, but instead there are dozens and dozens of posts about names. This must be the slowest news day in The Duchess of Susesx's short history. Boring!

[quote]If the Royals had been a little less choosy in the 70s, Charles would have ended up with a better matc

Didn't Charles' dithering also contribute to long his bachelorhood? I've read two accounts of why he did not marry Camilla when she was available. One flat out states that she was considered unsuitable due to a "party girl" background (i.e. questionable virginity). The other suggests that Charles was indecisive due to his commitment to his naval career (or perhaps holding out for someone better he could sell to the family?) and left Camilla hanging. While he was away at sea, Camilla accepted Andrew Parker Bowles proposal. Charles was supposedly crushed.

Mimi (Emilia)

LOL at the Clairol colours. Prozzie Platinum.

Dickie Mountbatten advised Charles to sow his wild oats with abandon and then settle down with an appropriate virgin later. Dickie thought the virgin in question should be his granddaughter, Amanda. Apparently he even kept a slush fund for paying off any of Charles' paramours who tried to kick up a fuss.

Without Uncle Dickie's influence, Charles might have settled down earlier, perhaps even with Camilla. After all, the Queen dug her heels in about Phillip and got her way. If Charles had been really, truly committed to marrying Camilla in the early 70s, there's not much the Firm could have done about it. He was the heir and already had access to the Duchy of Cornwall money.

Is MM cross-eyed?

R431 The crime would be falsification of a birth certificate - which is a matter of public record so could not be hidden.

We’ve been through this before, but in the UK the mother is always the woman who gives birth, even if she’s a surrogate. A certificate is issued within 6 weeks naming her as mother. If she’s a surrogate then the other mother would have to go through an adoption process which takes more than a year normally.

So, if there is a surrogate and they lie to the registrar that Markle’s the mother, that would be a crime.

All academic..she’s pregnant.

Thanks, R438. But falsifying a birth certificate hardly seems grounds for essentially being taken to the Tower, as the Tumblrstans seem to think Meghan has been.

I don't know why I expect crazy people to be logical, though.

As you said, she IS pregnant, so it doesn't matter.

Ten minutes to midnight in the UK. I guess we’re looking at May.

Lady May Margaret Windsor

Unless she's had the baby and is waiting for her c-section scar to heal up a bit, as I strongly suspect she is.

Triplets, Mary, Mungo and Midge.

I wonder if it's twins (ala Clooney) and that's the big surprise and reveal. She'll certainly be sporting her biggest cheshire cat grin yet if that's the case.

Mary Margaret is an Irish-American name. Don't think they would go that route.

Remember, this is someone who named her lifestyle blog “The Tig.” I say she comes up with a name she regards as original and expressive, something for “the ages.” Full of fire and music!

Hmph. Picture people.

Coachella Mountbatten-Windsor

I've been saying all along that it's boy/girl IVF twins. Instant family, no risking her figure with multiple surgeries. One and done.

Lady Abcde Windsor

Multiple PREGNANCIES.

Oh my god, hahahaha.

Valentine Low ‏

@valentinelow

It's that time of year! You know, when beautiful girls kiss ugly frogs, and look what happens. Rumoured sighting near Frogmore Cottage, Windsor. #FrogSpawn

Has a slimmed down version of BVL been spotted lately?

R444, I don't think so: were she carrying twins, she very well might have had to be on bed rest.

So what do we think the baby's name is going to be? Anyone?

Getting back to the subject of Diana.

Several years ago I read, "No Time To Die" the memoir of the late editor Liz Tilberis.

It's a good read, and Tilberis wrote about what a lovely and loyal friend Diana was.

Also remember when Elton John rewrote "Candle in the Wind" for Diana?

Corny!

The Princess Diana plushie was the corniest thing of all.

R457, that is just awful!

Someone tell Meaghan that nipple stimulation can bring on labor!

Eww.

When is Samantha's book coming out or has she been silenced?

R460, yes, so can sexual intercourse! I think the sperm "ripens" the cervix!

Yep, prostaglandins in sperm can induce labor late in a pregnancy, so tell Harry to get on that (her).

Also just the mechanical, banging part of intercourse can trigger labour.

No, R423 - own up to it. You thought that the correct word was “tact”.

R464, yeah, I know what the hell I am doing.

I've read all these Sparkle threads, including the late lamented Dangling Tendrils threads and I can say that....

THIS is the weirdest thread of them all.

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R445 is right, Mary Margaret would be too Catholic. So would Mary Frances, Mary Pat, etc.

All you people getting hung up on MARY for being too Catholic:

Harry’s grandmother The Queen is Elizabeth Alexandra MARY Harry’s great great aunt the Princess Royal was Victoria Alexandra MARY Harry’s great great grandmother Queen MARY was Victoria MARY Augusta Louise Olga Claudine Pauline Agnes

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12 ounces salsa verde

1 tablespoon taco seasoning mix

12 corn tortillas, torn into bite-sized pieces

2 cups cooked and chopped chicken

3 cups cheddar, jack, pepper jack cheese, or a mixture

1/2 cup chopped onion

sliced black olives

fresh chopped cilantro

Instructions:

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Christ on a pony. Can't even make a throwaway remark about the name Mary without everyone getting all MARY!

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Here's something new for us to worry about:

Pippa Middleton, she of the fabulous ass, had a baby boy not long ago.

So, will Kate's 3 lovely kids be as close with MM and Harry's kid as with Pippa's son?

I, for one, am concerned!

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R471's recipe will give Lilibet severe indigestion.

R470, Princess Beatrice and Lady Louise also have Mary as a middle name. The BRF isn't averse to the name at all.

And it will give me the runs.

Camilla was more intelligent than dummy Diana and she and Charles shared jokes going back to their childhoods. Diana left school at 16 with two O levels whereas Camilla had a degree.

There is no way Meghan will give the baby a dull name like Mary ffs. I think Sienna or similar. She won't bow to royal protocol. Maybe Zara or Sara.

Did anyone remember that the present Queen's full name is Elizabeth Alexandra MARY?

Totes, R481.

R470 - We're not talking about the BRF and what they like or are averse to. We're talking about Harry and Meghan! And "Mary" is NOT on-brand! For reasons I won't go into, so there!

R475 I picture the Sussex kid being the "cool" cousin, who spends half the year in LA.

When Kate, William, Zara and Mike, and various kiddies appeared at the horse thing. Mike Tindell was conspicuously toting George on his shoulders. Never EVER has supposedly kid loving, always-presumably-beloved Uncle Harry been photographed even near the Cambridge kids anything like. He's at the christening, never intereacts or references the baby. Stands on the balcony - no interaction whatsoever. Didn't wink at the kiddos when they came up the aisle at his nuptials. And yet stans constantly feed us that William and Harry are (or were) closer than close, and surely he spends copious quality time with his brothers kids.

Not only will Kate's kids have Pippa's kid, George, but they have the Tindell kids as second cousins to their own kids. George seems to get on well with his girl cousins - Mia was up in his face while a bemused George paid attention, and we've seen numerous times that Savannah Phillips (daughter of Peter and Autumn) owns him.

I don't know the deal with this pregnancy. Best case scenario, she was two seconds pregnant but determined to upstage Eugenie, merch her ass off on the tour, and create "iconic" photographs, so here comes the padding. In order to justify her behavior, she lied that she'd passed her 12 week scan, and now embarrassingly has to now hope nobody asks for too much of an explanation as to why this kid won't show up until July.

For whatever poster who tries to frame discussion about Meghan's padding and a possible surrogate as too tin hat for this place (probably the same poster who continually tries to dictate what discussion about Markle is ok and what isn't) I want to ask them - do you think she ISN'T padding? Pregnant or not. You think that was all baby?

The americans are insufferable about MM, ugh. Is she really the most popular member of the BRF since Diana? wheres the evidence?

This fanfare around a woman who is famous for marrying into a racist imperialist family, as if thats an achievement. She couldnt even get a nice countryside estate or cottage out of her marriage, Frogmore cottage is ugly!

And this obsession with her race, as if anyone who didnt know her would be able to guess she has black parentage, wtf

'I want to ask them - do you think she ISN'T padding? Pregnant or not. You think that was all baby? '

You crazy Larrie! I'm sure she would have been delighted to have had a smaller pregnancy a la Megan Fox and is embarrassed by how much she's ballooned. She's all about being super skinny. She's bigger than Kate got too. No way is she adding extra weight to make herself look even fatter, why the fuck would she? You are insane.

They could name a baby girl Lilly Beth.

R485 I just thought she was Latino until her PR told us otherwise.

The baby is going to be called Fuglicia.

If it's not "Grey" for a girl or a boy, a name I read she's said she liked (although not in reference to her pregnancy), the name is going to be appropriate, but just a bit precious and try hard, as someone here already said. It will try to be "classy" but also distinctive and feminine and unconventional but by GOD have what she thinks of as status. Therefore I think Allegra would be in the running unless someone alerts her to the car thing, Amelia is right up there.

If I were her and didn't care about my kid I'd troll everyone and go straight to mid-century names. Karen Windsor. Donna Windsor. Linda Windsor. Lois Windsor. Janice Windsor.

Thanks R486. So that looks like a legit baby midsection to you. All I was asking. No need for the editorializing. From you it comes off as instruction. "I have decided this, therefore the entire thread should follow my decision." Habit of yours through dozens of these threads now (going back to the tendrils).

If I knew nothing about Meghan's parentage, I would guess she's....Hispanic, maybe? Who even cares what she is. I just hate that this toxic fucking tiresome "conversation" has been brought into the BRF. And not even because of her skin color, but because she and Harry made it an issue from the get-go. BLECH.

R490 I love it! Debbie Windsor. Sandy Windsor. Bobby Windsor. Good AMERICAN names!

R484, Pippa's son is, apparently, Arthur Michael William Matthews!

R491 For fuck’s sake...if you want to bleat on about “fake baby bumps” and all that shit, go to Tumblr or Royal Gossip, where you’ll find plenty of fellow intellectual pygmies to play with. Stop boring the grown ups.

Princess Charlotte's birthday is May 2, 2015.

So, Megsy, try not to have your kid on Thursday. Thanks.

Gonwitha Windsor.

The surrogate is having the baby!!

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R490 Linda! A beautiful name (literally means beautiful) that needs to make a comeback!

Sorry.

"I am finding this all rather tiresome"

Where dat baby at???!! She don't know nothing about birthing no babies!

Pippa’s middle name isn’t Mary, though. It’s Charlotte, which is mildly interesting.

Yep, and since Pippa's kid has "William" as a middle name,

I do think that Baby Sussex needs to have "William" or "Catherine" as a middle name just to keep things kosher.

R336, before they were allowed to marry, MM was examined and assessed that she was capable of bearing a child. That was in the press. If she was not, perhaps came up with another plan. Her eggs could have been used, and if not able to carry the pregnancy, a surrogate could be used. It was reported she had a contract with ex husband if she gave birth to a child, he would pay for her to regain her figure. Obviously, it was a concern for her. The question is if she hid anything from BRF on her health or choices.

Hmm no, R491. This is the first Megan thread I've been on. I hate Larries and tinhats like you, though.

'It was reported she had a contract with ex husband if she gave birth to a child, he would pay for her to regain her figure'

Contracts, timelines, all this is tinhat jargon. So many infest this thread.

Speaking of Linda, I personally think Belinda is a pretty name that's due for a comeback.

"Tis better to have dangling tendrils than a dangling participle.

R508, I agree!

I love the way DL shorthand for insane conspiracy theorist is now just Larrie. Everyone knows what it means, and nobody wants to be called one.

I don't like when non-American posters accuse us Americanos of being racist.

Why Larrie? Where did that name come from?

I am really into the mid century names idea. Janice Mountbatten Windsor would be a pistol.

I have got it!

The baby's name must be Vanessa!

It has both a Brit pedigree and an African-American one!

R513, from those absolute lunatic fraus who ship the One Direction guys, Harry and Louis (Larry Stylinson). They were the Prancing Ponies of the 2010-2015 era.

whilst sleuthing, one must consider all possible variables. Not just grab one and hold on for dear life. I’m open minded and enjoy problem solving process..and it’s fun to review all possibilities on this thread, i was putting forth one possible explanation, didn’t say I believe it. So hold your tinhat assumptions Debbie!

Whoever said Coachella, I love it..MM is always a bit behind the curve on trends.

if she was honest, se'd call it Ca-ching.

How about a luxe name? She does love labels.....Porche /Portia, Givenchy, Bentley,Crystal. Or an American made up name, Jaden, Jaxon, Caden, etc. I like saloon type gal names, Loretta, Stella,. also, from Dynasty Alexis and of course her inspiration: Sammy Jo! for her she’ll pick pretentious and classy Alexia, or ethnic name that is Meghan in another language, or stong woman meaning in trendy culture..Arabic, Like Moroccan name, or African. Or Indian, that would be good for a yoga devotee. Plus it would make them look woke, global, and just so worldly and above it all. Maybe Gloria after Gloria Steinem!

Valerie Windsor. Lisa Windsor. Timmy Windsor. Garrett Windsor. Terry Windsor. Dave Windsor. Danny Windsor. Peggy Sue Windsor.

Just trying on the names of my 1960s classmates.

Peggy Sue Windsor would be SUCH a snotty bitch.

Emerald Windsor.

MY BABY IS MY TIARA BITCHES.

Lynn Windsor. Maureen Windsor. Sydney Windsor. Jay Windsor. Beverly Windsor. Jimmy Windsor. Ricky Windsor. Nancy Windsor. Steve Windsor. Melissa Windsor.

Pamela Windsor! I like that one.

So many forgotten mid-century American possibilities. Meg, are you reading this? Want to start a trend?

Apparently SussexRoyal Instagram has unfollowed all other royal accounts and patronages, etc to only follow 16 specific mental health accounts.... and reports will do a similar theme every month.

Why is MM boringly obsessed with mental health?

Because that is Will and Kate's cause de celebre and she needs to hone in on anything they do, natch.

R525 Because she is obsessed with Kate and will do anything to try and upstage her plus MM is probably getting ready for her huge "I've got post partum depression, I am the victim again" narrative. She is also trying to prove to the other Royals that she doesn't care about their awards or titles, she just cares about helping people. If anyone on here has had the unfortunate experience of either living with a Narc or having one as a parent, you all know too well how predicable they are. It's just interesting to watch her narcissistic sociopathy play out on the world stage.

The Sussexes are unfollowing the family?! Is it just me, or is that HUGE? Sorry, I find it shocking. Clutching pearls over here.

I’m very surprised she didn’t mercy the hell out of high-end maternity brands.

That Instagram is the only way she has to communicate right now. She’s got to do something to get attention.

R528 - i found that to be huge too. Was curious on if the account posted any happy anniversary comment to kensingtonpalace (since commented on louis’ birthday) - found it crazy that all the royal accounts introduced and welcomed the Sussex account and then now they unfollowed all those accounts in return. Which okay I know I’m being way too into social media followers and just confirming why markle’s account and who it follows matters... but still. I’ll be curious on how long she really keeps this up. Identifying a different theme each month? Forever? Or for the next year?

R528 It is huge! you are so right. I wonder will the press pick up on it. My guess is MM is having a huge narc rage attack over Kate getting that new award from the Queen plus they have probably said definitely no Prince/Princess title for the froglette. Now she cut them off does that mean they can cut off her money?

The first pic of Fugletta will go up on the IG.

So, does this mean their IG account will only accept posts from Mental Health sites?

MM is so petty and full of rage, I wonder is it all because of the award Kate got, as I said before it's narc rage. To disguise her rage she's deleted everyone in the family so she didn't have to congratulate Kate publically on instagram and now she doesn't have to congratulate Princess Charlotte on her birthday. Because we all know she has it in for that gorgeous little girl from day one.

It’s huge. I love trying to figure out their crazy, impulsive machinations and what the end game is. What’s great fun about analyzing the BRF is that it is not direct communication....more passive aggressive. Like my narc mother praising others pointedly to me, not one nice thing nice to me...translations: I don’t like you, I want to hurt you, of course I’d never come out and say it! Appearances darling.

Sussexes subtext: Kate who? We’re way too focused on being hardworking royals to notice these tiny things. Of course few days ago shout out to Louis. If she is so busy birthing this baby, still has to get digs in..I love it, crazy and diabolical, or frankly, obsessed. Go have your baby, shouldn’t this be a happy time for you? Why no mention of health status or imminent new royal? And why obsessed with mental health? Um maybe if they champion the cause, it will make it seem that THEY don’t have Mental health issues, just poor unbalanced populace and we want to HELP you poor little things, we’ll bring awareness..no we won’t DO anything, but it’s good for people to know, because of the like stigma and all”

I told you bitches months ago it would be “Margaret Louise.”

R525 Mental health is a major charitable area for the Royal Foundation (D and DoC, D and DoS). It was chosen before Meghan joined the BRF.

The Heads Together campaign and Harry's work with veterans are connected to this. Both of these predate Meghan. It's one of the few areas where she has joined an existing project.

Unfollowed them? That’s hilarious. What kids do. Wait til she, like, blocks them.

R537 you are correct mental health issues are a cause the young royals adopted and predated MM joining the family. Problem is that on numerous occasions both William and Harry have stated it was Kate's idea. So now MM must take it from Kate and make it her idea and pretend Kate didn't have anything to do with it. Delete them all off instagram and as a bonus she doesn't have to say congratulations on Kate's award or happy birthday to Charlotte. I have a narc mother, I know how they operate unfortunately

R220 And will be a constant reminder about the length of this pregnancy being compared to that of Bloody Mary. Given the snark value of the mother, the putative Lady Mary may well turn out to be like her Downton Abbey namesake.

Maybe they will all support Spaz Mental Health together. Nobody cares.

R539 I don't see Meghan taking anything from Kate. Nor do I care.

R525 Asked why Meghan is banging on about it. I don't think she is. I see the Sussex account posting about mental health. It's a issue that affects a lot of people and "the young royals" have been nattering on about it for a while.

It's highly likely that the person posting on the sussexroyal account is some poorly paid staffer following a communication plan based on a calendar and a timeline.

R542 = R537

Mental health is so chic these days.

Haha we all know who is running the instagram account and it's not some poorly paid staffer. Instagram is MM's raison d'être, she lives for it! I notice on the latest post she has very few UK mental health charities tagged, most of them are either American with a few other international ones thrown in plus a few are just instagram based. She really is a cunt, talk about biting the hand that feeds you.

From a Tumblr Truther:

Sooooo……..The Black out erupts with insidious ineptitude, the masters of the universe in visage compliance? Are the locations professionally covered from St Johns wood to the Americans safe place……IT still try’s dissemination of the truth her PR machine in headless confusion with sugars like lemmings barrelling over the cliff of mendacity. Be not troubled dear heart’ the side-eyes are quietly aware. PH will achieve a victory of stalwart devotion today his public appearance is conforation of a duty HM bestows on one whose much loved. Is IT today ? The marathon will proclaim a new era of hope………..This is GOT like no other……it’s Knights and Bishops in media combat…..is it all black and white. God save the Queen, God help the royal pawn.

The racist Twilight fraus called Rob Pattinson's girlfriend FKA Twigs 'IT' as well. Their playbook barely varies.

Why the fuck has MM tagged The Class by Taryn Toomey as one of her mental health organisations on Instagram? I thought that was some expensive trendy yoga hybrid class for celebrities and rich upper east side fraus.

Those if us who grew up middle class and above find the horrifying tackiness/pettiness of the Megahan Markles of the world truly fascinating.

I’ve said it before, but MM has a very specific LA, blue-collar trashiness about her, Blue collar types often make good money in LA thanks to the entertainment industry.

But they are completely uneducated and clueless, yet think they know everything because they make 100k per year lugging gear around.

As Roseanne would say, they’re white trash with money. And they are UNBEARABLE in their know-it-all-ness.

This is the dreary scene that begat our dumbass Sparkle. As an added bonus, she was a FUGLY kid who somehow decided it was a good idea to try to fuck her way through life.

Had she been born in Bethesda, MD, she’s be on partner track st a mid-sided law firm by now. As it is, she’s decided to make a living off her pussy.

LA people are so gross.

I concede that MM is probably subterfuging (look! I made that a verb!) to give her extra time to get her look together post baby.

But, shit! How hard can it be?

She was very fit pre-pregnancy, this is a first pregnant (smirk), and she’s a health freak.

Under these conditions, she shouldn’t have gained more than 20-25 pounds with her pregnancy. 15 pounds of that would be baby plus fluids.

Why the need for extra time to pull it together?

R549 It’s not that LA people are gross, it’s LA people in and around the entertainment industry that are gross. I say this as a native Angeleno. Nothing I despise more than the blowhards and narcissists that flock to that industry. They are major self-aggrandizers and think they know it all. Even worse are the out-of-state transplants who are hell-bent on making it in LA, regardless of their field. The hubris and blistering one-upmanship exhibited by these types is loathsome to me.

MM sneered at that fat journalist with the horrible teeth that she had been born in LA, unlike him.

I find this highly, highly unlikely. The Queen isn't on record as visiting any of the other Royal couples just before the birth of their children - Kate included. Why on earth would she visit Meghan?

Answer. She wouldn't. Even a note from the Queen is a big deal - but a home visit? No. This is clearly Meghan or her PR telling this to Scobie (who apparently leaked it first) to increase her importance in the eye of the public.

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Apparently it was a big deal and a big exception when QE visited Sophie Wessex in hospital after she nearly died in childbirth. They are reputed to be very close.

Under the influence of rosé-all-day (and all night), Tumblr has gone full M-Anon.

[quote]Sooooo……..The Black out erupts with insidious ineptitude, the masters of the universe in visage compliance?

A frogling spotted within the Eye of Horus. Canada Goose flies upside down through the eye of a needle. 33-33-33. All eyes are open. The storm is upon us.

I got impatient with this thread earlier for too many boring name-guessing posts, but THANK YOU, THANK YOU DL historians for posting the chicken enchilada casserole recipe. In honor our social mountaineering patroness and her spiritual godmother, here is the meatloaf recipe to end all meatloaf recipes!

Joan Crawford’s Meatloaf Recipe

900g / 2 lbs minced sirloin

450g / 1 lb pork sausage. minced / sausagemeat

450g / 1 lb minced veal

3 unbeaten eggs

1 large Bermuda onion, finely chopped

2 raw green bell peppers, finely chopped

3 tablespoons Lawry’s Seasoned Salt (divided use)

3 tablespoons Lea & Perrin’s Worcestershire Sauce (divided use)

3 teaspoons A-1 Steak Sauce (divided use)

4 hard boiled eggs

Combine meats, unbeaten eggs, onion, peppers, 1 tablespoon Lawry’s Seasoned Salt, 1 tablespoon Lea & Perrin’s Worcestershire Sauce and 1 teaspoon A-1 Steak Sauce. Mix thoroughly.

Shape mixture into oval loaf form in large shallow baking pan. Gently press hard boiled eggs into loaf.

Sprinkle remaining Lawry’s Seasoned Salt, Worcestershire and Steak Sauce on top of loaf, as a crust.

Pour 1 cup water into the base of the roasting pan.

Bake in pre-heated oven at 350 degrees F / 180 degrees C / Gas 4 for 30 min.

Turn oven down to 300 degrees F / 150 degrees C / Gas 2 and bake for another 30 min. Turn oven down to 250 degrees F / 130 degrees C / Gas 1/2 and bake for 45 min to one hour basting frequently with pan juice. (10 portions).

As a Frau and longtime lurker of both the BRF and Dangling Tendrils threads I can honestly say I miss the days before these threads were overtaken by fraus. I miss the snark and hilarity that ensued prior to this invasion. This is why I rarely comment myself. It's like being on Tumblr now FFS.

Well, well ,well ....

R505 that is complete bullshit. Royal brides are NOT inspected for anything, and even if they were why the fuck would ANYONE care if MM can carry a child or not? She is completely irrelevant in terms of line of succession.

R540 another analogy is that Bloody Mary famously had a phantom pregnancy.

R559 What a clusterfuck if they call the kid Diana, it's not a great name for any kid and imagine being the poor kid having to grow up with the weight of that name especially if she is plain with red curly hair and beady close set eyes. If I was William I would be furious! Crazy MM thinking she can birth a new Diana, its fucking mental and insulting to the real Diana plus I feel so sorry for that kid with those fuckwits as parents.

R559 That’s bullshit. Charlotte is Charlotte Elizabeth Diana. So why would William refuse to allow them to do the same?

R558 I agree completely. It’s so fucking annoying. This is the only place I comment on the BRF at all as it used the be relatively balanced unlike everywhere else. Those cunts from Royal Gossip & Tumblr have ruined it.

R561 Nowhere in that blind does it say “first name”. It says “somewhere in the name” so one of the middle names.

MM did have a pregnancy contract with her ex-husband. It was one of the delicious morsels that her ghosted childhood friend spilled.

R560, yeah, that’s ridiculous. She wouldn’t let Royal doctors examine her while pregnant (allegedly), but she’d allow them to *before* the pregnancy? Unless she was jumping through that particular hoop just to get the ring on her finger... and then “fuck off” after she was safely ensconced in legal marriage.

R560 That was the allusion I was making.

R564, I can believe that. People put weird things in prenups.

It should have been a giant red flag to him. And her, too, I guess. That anyone considered post-childbirth cosmetic surgery before there was even a pregnancy is pretty fucked up.

R559, that’s hilarious. I can see both sides. Why should William’s opinion carry any weight? He’s not the boss of Harry (yet...). Harry had his own relationship to Diana.

Of course now that William threw down that gauntlet, I fully expect Contrarywise Meghan to include “Diana” in a baby girl’s name.

I know a few families in which a beloved matriarch/patriarch’s name is incorporated into a few children’s names. No hard feelings.

I think Diana as a middle name for a girl is a given. Why would anyone suppose differently? Spencer as a middle name (or even first name) for a boy is definitely possible.

[quote]William restricted them. He did not want Diana’s first name used but said it was fine to use her middle or last name. Kate was especially opposed to the use of the first name but she did not get directly involved in any discussion with the couple.

Diana had only two names, right? So either the blind is BS (most likely), or misreported. Perhaps William was opposed to using Diana as a first name, but okay with it being second or third, like they did with Charlotte.

Meanwhile, Kate is back on duty.

Spencer Charles Phillip for a boy.

Alexandra Elizabeth Diana for a girl.

Doriana would be hilarious.

Spazzy is Here to Stay...

Millie. Maya Malia ( daughter of Michelle Obama ) Mila Margot as first names

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Kate's hair is always so nice! I wonder how she manages that. I feel like managing your hair is 80% of making your whole look polished.

Beautiful hair, especially today, very Veronica Lake.

'Those of us who grew up middle class and above find the horrifying tackiness/pettiness of the Megahan Markles of the world truly mesmerising and we are all envious of her.'

Fixed that for you. No way on earth are you 'middle class or above'. You're probably typing in a trailer on the edge of a swamp in Florida.

Isn't that where Jersey Deanne lives? In a trailer in a swamp in Florida? She's another dubious nutter.

Skippy is a strange one. I couldn't fathom how and why she spends every waking hour on her blog. I was alarmed when I saw an anon ask her about it. Her answer was that her daughter and son-in-law live in the basement, and do all the cooking and cleaning. That's one strange setup, even if she is a disabled woman. I would have my mother ( or mother-in-law) of that laptop/pad/phone and out in the fresh air for a bit. It's quite sad, really.

^^^^ off that laptop etc

If Skippy actually, genuinely believes that Markle is currently behind bars about to be charged with treason, then she is mentally ill. Simple as that.

What bothers me about these blogs isn’t the people that are running them (there are nutters everywhere) but that an enormous amount of people take them seriously. What’s wrong with people?

I used to read JerseyDeanne (before I wised up) and I was genuinely agog that so many people were hanging off the word of some random calling herself “NYCRealRoyal” who was the originator of so much shit that’s now entered the mainstream.

This was a barely literate nobody who was claiming to be a PR professional who worked for a firm in New York that was run by a British friend of Prince Charles. The firm had been hired by him (PC) to bring down Markle. That this cunt couldn’t even manage to string a coherent sentence together apparently bothered nobody - presumably because they were too stupid themselves to spot this.

I read enough of those stupid posts to spot the writing style a mile off....and there’s no doubt in my mind that it’s the same person now posting on Twitter as TorontoPapers.

How easy it is to fool idiots truly amazes me.

I don’t believe any of the conspiracy theories. Harry wanted a wife who would cope with public attention, and along came Markle, flashing her well-used snatch so he married her. No blackmail, no photoshopping, no secret dossier from MI-6, nothing.

And as to why the BRF “let him marry her” - something that evidently confuses even people on here - it’s because they had no fucking choice. I bet they all tried to get him to slow down but he wouldn’t - so they went with it. What else could they do? And it’s not as if she’s an arms dealer or paedophile.

I will say that I think he’s unhappy & that her behaviour has alienated him from friends and family & I still think they’ll divorce sooner rather than later, but I know I could be wrong and can live with that.

TP is boring shit.

Who cares about the Tumblr freaks, we have always had these people around, it's just now every fuckatard can sprout their opinion on social media. I'm not sure why people get so involved with their crazy, they aren't doing any harm except maybe causing coronary heart disease with their recipes. At least it keeps them occupied and off the streets. Talking of crazy, I wonder what MM will do now that Kate is in the news again with her fabulous real hair

Hahaha

MM seems to be losing her marbles. Why unfollow the BRF on instagram? And her patronages? Especially after Kate was granted a new award by the Queen? Have these people she's chosen to highlight been vetted? How many of them are British? Oh an I see there is a token black organisation.

R586 I think three of them are UK based, one is UAE, one Australian and the rest American of including The Class by Taryn Toomey which I thought was a yoga thing for rich cuntie celebrities and rich bitches in NYC. Another one is some Oprah shit called Super Soul. Yes I can really see these helping the mentally ill with manic depression and schizophrenia. Seriously wtf is wrong with this megalomaniac? She gets her money from the British

RE fertility assessment reported for r560

There is always health assessment for someone entering royal family, especially co-mingling genes as offspring are blood royals.

R588 Absolute BS, nobody in the Royal family would care if this bitch could reproduce, she's irrelevant for the line of succession, it's not like there is a shortage of heirs. The only one who cares about her fertility is MM and producing her reincarnated Diana.

R584 Er, as I expressly said, but you ignored, nobody gives a fuck about Tumblr freaks. It’s the bullshit they invent that MAKES IT HERE that is annoying.

Why can’t people read?

Re the IG issue, I think there is less here than meets the eye. The "We will follow this theme every month and change the focus of our account to highlight different causes" has nothing to do with the BRFper se, except in the sense that it trumpets how selfless and interested only in the hoi polloi they are (as opposed Those Other Rich Out of Touch Royals). It's more of the self-promoting branding shit - at last in MM's disordered mind.

The bit about unfollowing her patronages, given what her job is as a senior royal, in my view, is more ill-judged than unfollowing the BRF.

I'm not sure I believe the item about the BI about William "forbidding" the Sussexes from using the name Diana if it's a girl. He used it as a third name for his own daughter and if Harry chooses to burden his daughter with the name, that's the Sussexes lookout. I think this is more shit-stirring from people who can't stop reflexively making up one story after another about the Cambridge-Sussex mix.

Personally, I'm betting that if it is a girl, they will call it Diana, I doubt Meghan could possibly resist the show biz hysteria it will generate for ten minutes.

Jesus, this thread filled up faster than any of the others.

Fillled up with crap. Here we are on a gossip site known for wit and fun, and it's devolved to oohing and ahhing over far inferior gossip sites. And counting likes and follows. Jesus.

Agree that William probably did not "forbid" the use of the name Diana. But I imagine, if asked, he cautioned them against using it as a first name as no child should be saddled with that baggage.

Here's an idea for Nutmeg. Some people, hey?

A new thread before we fall off a cliff here. Please take this thread to 600 before using the new one.

As one of the poor bastards tasked with walking behind his mother's coffin, Harry should want to shield his own daughter from the kind of ceaseless attention that killed Diana. Giving his daughter the name Diana would attract exactly that kind of attention, from birth. If he lets anyone talk him into naming his daughter Diana, he's really too stupid to live.

Unfollowing her patronages is a big deal. She is probably beside herself in anger over something and she is lashing out like a child. I do not think it is strictly about Kate receiving another Order as Meghan probably doesn't understand much about those anyway.

Speaking of too stupid to live, I hope the snippet at R594 is someone's idea of a joke.

I don't understand the obsession some people have with giving their child an absolutely 'unique' name. With 8 billion people in the world and counting, you're unlikely to do that unless you name your kid Adg;lifbba]=dg or something.

They will go for assonance and call her Alice Windsor.

That would be quite lovely, actually.

Alice Elizabeth Diana Mountbatten-Windsor

All right, here we are, Post 601.

Did the baby come yet?

A girl - Meggs will keep it classy but modern: Mackenzie Flynn Christal Doria Mountbatten-Windsor.

Perfection.

Princess Charlotte is adorable.