Donald Trump is Afraid of Joe Biden

both old cunts

Forget Biden. Butigieg is coming to whup his orange ass n 2020.

And how old are you, R1?

I don’t like Biden at all but if he’s the democratic nominee I will vote for him.

[QUOTE]Hours after Joe Biden posted an online video announcing his 2020 White House bid, President Donald Trump responded on Twitter. “Welcome to the race Sleepy Joe,” Trump taunted the former vice president on Thursday. “I only hope you have the intelligence, long in doubt, to wage a successful primary campaign.”

[QUOTE]Trump’s insults were actually masking respect — and genuine concern about Biden’s potential to win, Trump advisers say.

[QUOTE]Trump’s mockery of Biden belies a belief that the former vice president is a true political threat, according to a Republican strategist close to the Trump campaign. “The candidates he doesn’t talk about, it’s a signal that he doesn’t take them seriously,” this person said.

[QUOTE]Indeed, while the news media have recently focused on the Democratic 2020 hopeful Pete Buttigieg, Trump has ignored the young mayor of South Bend, Ind.

[QUOTE]“We have had a number of conversations about potential challengers, and Biden has been at the top of the list because of his polling numbers,” said a Republican lawmaker who talks frequently with the president. “He is seen as one of the most difficult potential challengers because of his appeal to independents and his likable style.”

This "leak" that Dump is afraid is pure bs. Dump, whether you admit it or not, has a chance to beat Biden. Biden has a lot of baggage, including being Obama's VP. Dump will have a field day if Biden wins the nomination because his base will come out to vote against "Obama's guy". Also, It makes me cringe that Biden had the nerve to personally call Anita Hill now only to cover his ass before he made his 4th attempt at the WH.

Disclaimer, I'm on team Warren or Buttigieg. But if Joe does win the nod, I'll vote for him.

I hope he's afraid. The only thing keeping him out of prison is the presidency. When he loses that, he's done for.

[QUOTE]Biden has a lot of baggage, including being Obama's VP.

How is that considered “baggage”?

He's should be afraid of Pete and Elizabeth.

I don't think Trump has a Biden problem, I think he has a math problem. The turnout on the Democrat's side is going to be bigger than it was in 2018.

"The U.S. Chamber, the most powerful lobbying force in D.C., is changing its strategy to move away from the GOP. “We cannot just single-source our politics through one party."

The most powerful business lobby in the US is basically saying they think the Democrats are going to win big in 2020.

At the end of the day, I think Trump is afraid to run against any Democrat that isn't Hillary. I won't be surprised if he refuses to do any debates. Plus, he's getting primaried. It's a long shot, but Bill Weld has a plan to beat Trump. He can scoop up a lot of blue state delegates.

Trump is not going to enjoy campaigning this time at all. His speeches are degrading, and he's just not up to full time campaigning along with what passes for running the country.

From your lips to God’s ears, R10.

However his math problem would be exacerbated by the nomination of Joe Biden. With Joe having the strongest chance of winning Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan, Trump’s fate would be all but sealed.

Joe's a 'decoy.'

Stay tuned . . .

DT really can't call out JB's baggage problem when his is not only similar but much worse.

Didn't Mueller basically lay out in his report that Trump could be prosecuted after he leaves office based on the evidence collected? I think Trump will pull out all the stops to win because he knows that if he doesn't, there's a good chance he's going to jail.

So if Trump loses, he gets prosecuted and everything that hasn't been shown to the public comes to light---what does the GOP do? Do they stick with him and defend him? Or cut him loose? Although it would be a little late in the day to change course for them.

Even worse, what if Trump wins and then realizes the only way to stay out of jail is to stay in office- would he be able to push for a change to make the presidency an unlimited term in office???

That would require a Constitutional amendment, R14. You need two-thirds of the House and Senate to pass that, plus 38 state legislatures. That's a pretty high bar.

Trump probably didn’t even think he would win against Hillary

I have a feeling it’s Biden’s people who are saying Trump is afraid of him. “You see? You HAVE to vote for him!”

I have one and only one issue for 2020: who can best beat Donald trump? So far that is Joe Biden 🇺🇸. Yes he can!

Let's not get overly confident about Biden. Too many people thought there was no way Hillary would lose to Trump. In fact, considering how narrow his victory was in certain states, there may have been enough "she's going to win anyway" non-voters to tip the scales.

[QUOTE]I have a feeling it’s Biden’s people who are saying Trump is afraid of him. “You see? You HAVE to vote for him!”

How exactly would that work? This isn’t based on anonymous tips that were randomly called in to some hotline. The sources are from inside the Trump administration.

How do pollsters still have jobs post 2016?

Even now, they make shit up as they go. In 2018, Silver and his goons were updating their "predictions" once results were in.

I'm a Canadian. Any Democrat will have a difficult time beating Trump in the next election. He's still very popular and the Republicans pull out every dirty trick in the book to demonize the Democrat candidate - Good Luck to whoever that candidate may be!

You've still got me! I'll pray away the Trump.

[QUOTE]How do pollsters still have jobs post 2016?

The pollsters weren’t wrong.

Yes they were. They predicted Hills would sweep the general and the EC. Easy peasy.

Either way, I don't trust or listen to any of them. I go by my gut feeling. In 2016, I had a bad feeling about the dump (i live in the south), and saw firsthand how much support he had by everyday people. I posted that on DL and was labeled a deplorable/Russian bot.

I honestly don't have the weird feelings about dump so far. My gut says Liz Warren is the dark horse, and one to watch.

[QUOTE] They predicted Hills would sweep the general and the EC. Easy peasy.

No, they didn’t. Anybody with half a brain could look at the numbers and interpret that Hillary was in for a tough race. I was never, not once, jubilantly confident that she would win.

Donald trump is an idiot. Biden has a flashy announcement because to most barely literate americans Biden is the only name they barely recognize of the democratic candidates running. Biden wont be able to draw crowds and those he does draw wont be under 40..........he has zero chance at beating trump as he isnt that different phllosophically from trump and he is a corporate shill. I hope the democratic party machine does not force Biden thru to be Trumps opponent as then we have the horrific nightmare of trump for 4 more long terrible years/

The media went bananas over Biden's announcement. Even today on the view, Biden had special theme music, and had the entire hour devoted to him. No other candidate has had that, especially on network tv. It was clear that at least ABC has chosen who they want to win the dem nomination.

OP, take it with a grain of salt. These people get paid to write.

The Daily Beast: Trump Calls Bernie Sanders Crazy, Praises Him in Private

This is reverse psychology. Biden is unelectable.

Trump doesn’t do reverse psychology.

Bernie is supposedly polling at a close second so far. Why isnt Dump afraid of Bernie?

Given Biden's history with Scanton, can Biden win Pennsylvania? He shouldn't take it for granted.

Hillary supposedly did not win over rural Pennsylvania so lost the state.

The thought of 4 more years of trump should cause pause. I’ll happily take Biden

R36 And winning over Rust Best and rural Democrats who voted for Dump. And getting out the Democratic vote.

[quote]It was clear that at least ABC has chosen who they want to win the dem nomination.

Meanwhile on MSNBC, Joy had an entire panel of people bashing him.

Trump's average approval rating is 38%. How exactly is he supposed to win?

No incumbent has even been so unpopular so he doesn't really have the advantage of incumbency. Look at these numbers comparing him to past incumbents. He's in uncharted territory of unpopularity. In other words, it doesn't have to be Joe Biden.

[quote]Joe's a 'decoy.'

Hillary 2020?

Biden is in danger of falling and breaking a hip. Everyone ought to retire by the time they're eighty.

Bottom line is this WHOEVER wins the nomination EVERYONE needs to get with the program and go with the nominee whoever it is! We can’t have 4 more years of this asshole. Fight for you candidate now but when it’s over whether they won or lost we need to be united. Now get to work bitches!

I'm with, R42. Don't hold grudges, people. Put your emotions aside and vote with reason.

[QUOTE]Given Biden's history with Scanton, can Biden win Pennsylvania? He shouldn't take it for granted.

😂 Gtfoh. Joe Biden is not losing Pennsylvania to Trump.

Speaking of which.

Trump's afraid. I guess that's why he has every Democrat kissing his ass. Biden has a snowball's chance in Hell against him as do all the Democratic clowns. The only way we will have a chance is if we have our own Democratic Trump. Otherwise look for another Trump term.

Trump never held any government office and won the first time he ran for president. This is Joe's third run.

No clear front-runner? Hillary Clinton steps in. Problem solved.

[QUOTE]President Trump’s decision to ramp up his attacks on Joe Biden suggests he views the former vice president as a major threat at the outset of the 2020 race.

[QUOTE]While Trump’s team sees flaws in Biden, it considers his broad name recognition, ties to former President Obama and appeal to white, working-class voters as potential advantages for him in a general election match-up.

[QUOTE]The president believes he can weaken Biden’s chances of winning the Democratic nomination by bloodying him early in the primary, even though Trump’s campaign operation prefers not to elevate specific Democrats by singling them out for criticism.

[quote]Biden is in danger of falling and breaking a hip. Everyone ought to retire by the time they're eighty.

If 86 yo RBG can hold the line at SCOTUS, Joe is perfectly fine. Whoever can deliver the win and a Senate majority, I don't care if they're 50 or 150.

[quote]...he has zero chance at beating trump as he isnt that different phllosophically from trump...

Oh, brother. The Berners are here.

What do you bet they still haven't figured out how to register to vote in a primary?

[QUOTE]President Donald Trump went on retweeting binge early Wednesday, promoting tweets from nearly 60 accounts that replied to a post regarding the International Association of Firefighter's support for former Vice President Joe Biden in the 2020 presidential race.

[QUOTE]Trump retweeted 59 replies to conservative media personality Dan Bongino's tweet within a span of 20 minutes, promoting tweets from users who claimed firefighters did not support Biden.

Biden/Abrams for the win.

P.S. Fuck Anita Hill, Republican shill, and her "it's not enough" response to Biden's apology.

Biden/Harris

R6... Biden has a lot of baggage? Yes.. for all his years in Washington, he has some baggage.. what politician doesn't? Dump's baggage is far more vast and heavier than anyone. There's is no bigger scum than trump. The least of my concerns is Biden's "baggage".

He certainly is not afraid of the cowardly Bob Mueller, that is for sure. What a washy washy idiot, he turned out to be.

Russia is still rooting for Trump, which is the only way he will win.

Lots of fake news and poll hacking about to start...

That's about to change, R57. Barr's promotion of his own conclusions in place of the Mueller Report's is going to blow up in his face as well as Trump's once the truth of what's in the Report finally comes out, and it's only a matter of time now that Mueller has gone on offense against Barr. Barr's shenanigans were too cute by half, and when Mueller testifies in front of Congress the narrative will correspond with the Report: Trump is guilty of conspiracy and obstruction of justice. The evidence is overwhelming. Only the most diehard Republicans will lick his soles (where they can meet the Senatice in her negligee).

Barr facing the Senate Judiciary Committee LIVE on how.. 11 - 12 am..

on *now^^

.. 11 am to 12 pm... sheesh!

Bump

Trump’s off his rocker, blaming Joe for potentially failed China trade negotiations.

Others have pointed out, when trump leaves the WH he will go to jail. Most people hate him. He is scared. I am delighted. I don't like Biden, but if Biden makes him cry? I'm 100% Biden.

Be careful what you wish for, R48.

[QUOTE]President Donald Trump sees parallels between Joe Biden’s early surge to the front of the crowded 2020 Democratic presidential field and his own runaway success in the 2016 Republican primaries.

[QUOTE]In an interview with POLITICO on Friday afternoon, Trump cast the former vice president as a clear, if flawed, front runner, noting that Biden had recently flubbed the name of Britain’s prime minister. And he compared Biden’s early success in a heavily crowded field to his own entry and rapid ascent in the 2016 Republican campaign.

I despair that there’s no way they’ll let Trump lose. The GOP will use Russia, China, Saudi Arabia, Israel, etc to steal the election.

And John Bolton is mapping out the Iran War right now.

IMO, even though Biden is 76 years old, he is the only one who can respond to low blows. Bernie Sanders seems angry all the time, so maybe Sanders can as well. I actually felt sorry for Paul Ryan after the debate with Biden. Biden was basically laughing in Ryan's face.

China, if you are listening.....

[quote]How do pollsters still have jobs post 2016?

Pollsters didn't know Russia hacked voting machines, they also didn't know ballots were disappearing or were discounted.

In a fair election Trump would have never won. There was massive fraud going on to make sure Hillary would lose. The GOP and Putin hate, hate, hate the Clintons.

People will vote for Biden as a big fuck you to Trump. They loved Obama and hate Trump. A person who voted for Trump, is a truly ignorant fool, more than likely a racist, pig.

Trump in jail is the only guarantee he won't blurt out sensitive intellogence and government secrets to Putin, KJU and whoever pays him after he leaves office.

So far Obama has stayed out of the mix because he wants the nomination to play out - but if Biden wins it, wouldn't Obama see that as a sign he could start campaigning for Joe? If he and Michelle hit the campaign trail, that would really piss off Trump.

[QUOTE]GOP will use Russia, China, Saudi Arabia, Israel, etc to steal the election.

China is the one country on that list who desperately wants Joe Biden to win, and that’s the one thing that disturbs me the most about Joe. I don’t want a China-friendly president.

No more wars of any kind, including trade. Joe is our best hope and an ally

[quote] If he and Michelle hit the campaign trail, that would really piss off Trump.

Does it matter if it pisses off tRump? It is important to energize the democrats and the independents. I have a feeling Obama will not engage in the election any more than he did in 2016, if even that much.

Good

[QUOTE]I have a feeling Obama will not engage in the election any more than he did in 2016, if even that much.

Obama is a big reason we’re at this juncture. If he had pushed Biden to enter the 2016 race and got behind him rather than Hillary, we wouldn’t be in this mess. He better bust his ass campaigning for Joe.

I recall the good old days when the datalounge braintrust was celebrating how Trump was so scared of HIllary he wouldn't even dare show up at the debates.

These stories tell me that these "unnamed Republican operatives, strategists" actually think Trump has the best chance against Biden in the general.

[QUOTE]The moves come at a time of growing anxiety over the geographic linchpin of his 2020 hopes. The Trump campaign recently completed a 17-state polling project that concluded the president trails Joe Biden in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan, according to two people briefed on the results. America First Action, the principal pro-Trump super PAC, is expected to conduct its own polling and focus groups in Pennsylvania and Michigan later this summer.

[QUOTE]After being briefed on a devastating 17-state poll conducted by his campaign pollster, Tony Fabrizio, Mr. Trump told aides to deny that his internal polling showed him trailing Mr. Biden in many of the states he needs to win, even though he is also trailing in public polls from key states like Texas, Michigan and Pennsylvania. And when top-line details of the polling leaked, including numbers showing the president lagging in a cluster of critical Rust Belt states, Mr. Trump instructed aides to say publicly that other data showed him doing well.

[quote]I don’t want a China-friendly president.

Well, if China is willing to work as hard for a Democrat as Russia was a Republican, I think we can deal with a China-friendly president. At least we know what they want, and it's more trade. All Russia wants is to have free rein to take over as many former-USSR/Eastern Bloc countries as it can (so Putin can raid their national treasuries just as he's stolen Russia's wealth, such as it is/was).

This could be a fake out

R85 has it right. I've linked to Electoral-Vote.com, that has already put up the results of the 2016 electoral college. If every state turns out the same except for Wisconsin, Michigan, and Joe's home state Pennsylvania, he would take the election. I think North Carolina and Arizona could flip blue in 2020 as well.

Please people. Donald Trump is going to win in 2020 and Joe Biden is no threat to him.

Sure thing, R89. What's the data backing up your claim?

Why The Fuck have Democrats not learned to " Fight Fire with Fire at this point when it comes to Trump? Biden needs to get out there and start calling Trump goddamed Pinocchio for all his fucking lies, for the poll numbers discrepancies alone if for nothing else. Put the information into a simplistic term the Orange Turd's followers can comprehend.

[quote] Why The Fuck have Democrats not learned to " Fight Fire with Fire at this point when it comes to Trump?

the Dems believe that those of us who hate Trump dont need any more convincing. Those who love Trump won't be persuaded by Dems pointing out his lies. So the Dems have decided that, while there are a few who will throw it back at Trump, most want to seem like statesmen, rather than mudslingers.

That said, if Trump wins again, the Dems will wonder "Why didn't we try to impeach him????"

[quote] That said, if Trump wins again, the Dems will wonder "Why didn't we try to impeach him????"

Yes, there is that.

Never in a million years did I think this fear would lead to his impeachment.

Even if he isn't impeached, this makes Biden look like a very attractive nominee.

Biden could not beat a rug on the clothesline so he has no reason to be afraid.

Watch the polls, R96. Biden is coming out of this stronger.

Polls are bullshit, ask Hillary.

Typical reaction of someone who doesn't like the polls they see.

In ten years Trump will be in jail and the signature restaurant in all Trump properties will be Golden Corral

If that’s so, R100, then we’ll have Joe Biden to thank.

R99 so you believe in polls, landlines and senior citizens. Have a good life.

Let's hope, we need him to beat Trump come November 3rd.

Biden is nothing.

he is terrified. he sucks at everything that says President, and Biden doesn't. He is fucking terrified. It is funny to see.

[QUOTE] Biden is nothing.

I remember all those "Trump is SO afraid of Hillary he won't even show up at the debates" threads.

You are kidding right!!

The only thing certain about Biden is he’s getting senile. The republicans will play that for all it’s worth along with Biden’s claim he will only serve one term. People vote for the president not the VP or a place holder. The Democrats are not helping themselves with the virus response nor is Biden who can’t seem to generate an original idea.

Ha ha ha! Biden is getting senile? Ha ha ha!

Trump has full-blown dementia. He's currently telling people you can kill the coronavirus by ingesting bleach. If that's the kind of original idea you're looking for, I'll take Biden.

I actually do love that Joe has a temper. I can't wait for him to snap back at the Dotard.

Trump suggested freebasing disinfectant today, R113. Biden could name Corn Pop as his running mate and give speeches where the only word he says is “Malarkey” and he’d still be the sanest candidate in the race by a long shot.

[QUOTE] For some, the disenchantment started almost as soon as Donald J. Trump took office. For others, his handling of the coronavirus and social unrest turned them away. For all of them, it’s highly unlikely they will vote for him again.

[QUOTE]These voters, who backed Mr. Trump in 2016 but say there’s “not really any chance” they will this year, represent just 2 percent of all registered voters in the six states most likely to decide the presidency, according to New York Times/Siena College polls. But they help explain why the president faces a significant deficit nationwide and in the battleground states.

[QUOTE]“I think if he weren’t such an appalling human being, he would make a great president, because I think what this country needs is somebody who isn’t a politician,” said Judith Goines, 53, a finance executive at a home building company in Fayetteville, N.C. “But obviously with the coronavirus and the social unrest we’re dealing with, that’s where you need a politician, somebody with a little bit more couth.”

More NYT bullshit....

At this point, are they just trolling the rest of us with these "human asshole interest" stories about Trump supporters? Fucking tiresome.

I couldn't care less what they fucking think, especially when they pull that "I won't vote for either party" bullshit. Go away, deplorables. Go the fuck away. Just drop dead. You've caused enough damage.

The voters quoted in the article don’t necessarily belong to Donald Trump, R119. Many of them voted for Barack Obama and we need to bring them back into the fold. And Joe Biden is the perfect candidate to do it.

lol absolutely no one is afraid of Fugly Pete the ventriloquist dummy.

[quote]Forget Biden. Butigieg is coming to whup his orange ass n 2020.

Well, this didn’t age well.

[QUOTE] Trump wants the campaign to be about law and order, but Biden has not taken the bait. His campaign is running ads about Trump’s response to the coronavirus pandemic, and the presumptive Democratic nominee has spent the last month deliberately rolling out a week-by-week economic policy agenda. He’ll do a final event on the topic Tuesday in Delaware, where he’s expected to highlight his racial justice agenda.

[QUOTE] By early July, however, Trump was back to law and order. The Biden campaign believes it’s another sign of futility from Trump and his campaign, signaling that they can’t find a message that works. “[Trump’s] campaign is busy cycling through one debunked attack on Vice President Biden after another, and flailing as none of them stick,” said Biden spokesman Mike Gwin.

Bottom line is, "We're coming for you, you POS murdering scum. We're coming for you and all the traitors who support you, enable you, and do your bidding. It's gonna be scorched earth. Root and stem, baby. Elizabeth, Pete, Kamala, Amy, Julian, Corey, and every other Democrat, like Eric Swallwell, Hakeem Jeffries, Congresswoman Jayapal, Governor Whitmore, Senator Duckworth, all of them and more.Barack and Michelle are coming for you and even fucking Taylor Swift (LOOLOL! ) is coming for you. You are well and truly fucked. Done. And Billy Barr better stop covering you ass and start negotiating your exit. Your bankrupt, racist strategy of inciting chaos and gassing women and children, and trying to create enough confusion to fuck us up will not work. Pack you bags, bitch."

[quote]Elizabeth, Pete, Kamala, Amy, Julian, Corey, and every other Democrat, like Eric Swallwell, Hakeem Jeffries, Congresswoman Jayapal, Governor Whitmore, Senator Duckworth, all of them and more.

Pete is unlike the others you mentioned, in that he is unemployed and has no power to "come for" anyone.

[QUOTE] Faced with these numbers, though, a lot of people — Republicans, Democrats and people with no particular party affiliation — raise a reasonable question: “Wasn’t Hillary Clinton leading in the polls too?”

[QUOTE]Well, yes. But not quite like this. We compared Biden’s standing to where Clinton was at this point in the polls four years ago.1 We specifically chose this point in the cycle in 2016 because it’s about where Clinton hit her peak — on Aug. 7, 2016, following the Democratic National Convention, Clinton had a 7.5-point lead over Trump in national polls.

[QUOTE]Clinton never topped that lead. Even at her post-convention peak, Clinton’s lead over Trump still wasn’t as large as Biden’s is now.

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Frauds are always afraid of being unmasked. He lives in constant fear his diaper will spring a leak.Some hooker will release a picture of his tiny dick. His hair will blow off. He will stroke out and die on camera during one of his rallys. A coward dies many deaths.

Can we not be the same old complacent fuckups on the left and keep telling ourselves how far ahead our guy is? Focus on issues and on countering the blatant attempts at voter suppression that the GOP have been making for years. Get every single legally able person who wants to vote against Trump the the voting booth, one way or another.

Treat beating Trump like a lotto win - no celebrating until he's been out of the WH for at least 2 weeks.

Then, go after his ass (and his administration's) in the courts.

[QUOTE] Treat beating Trump like a lotto win - no celebrating until he's been out of the WH for at least 2 weeks.

Why two weeks, R130? Why not wait two months before we finally think it’s safe to come out from under our bed covers?

Let’s push the Joe Biden inauguration ceremony back to June 2021 so R130 can finally feel it’s good and safe to be happy again.

Here you go, R130, here’s a nice Eeyore thread for you. Joe Biden is gonna lose Minnesota! That’s the doom and gloom we need to get those 27 DLers who live there to go out and vote for Joe.

So sorry for my attitude. Clearly there's no basis at all for worrying that the Dems are going to horribly underestimate Trump's ability to get elected.

Sarcasm, folks. And fuck all of you.

I accept your apology, R134. Now learn to live a little and stop walking around on a sunny day clutching an umbrella waiting for the rain to start.

And Shitler should be.

But the truth is, Donald Trump has never won the popular vote and never will. Trump has been trailing all the top Democrats ‚— including Sanders — in the polls for 4 years.

BYE, BITCH!

R136 Google the Electoral College or something. The popular vote isn't all that.

R135 Go stroll into traffic, moron.

Bitch should be afraid. Joe is going to SMACK him down tomorrow with all this tax and Supreme Court scumbaggery.

Joe Biden’s favorability ratings are keeping him immune from Trump’s attacks, just like Trump always feared. I’ve got to hand it to him: he correctly identified his strongest opponent from the very beginning.

Now all the Trump Cult can do is desperately try to re-use the 2016 playbook against Biden.

But 2020 isn't 2016.

The fascists have absolutely no idea what's about to hit them. None at all.