Has America "birthed" any countries?

panama

Liberia.

Once habitat for peaceful elephants and other innocent animals, now wasteland with cannibalistic warlords.

Palau, Republic of the Marshall Islands, Federated States of Micronesia....

We've occupied the Dominican Republic and Haiti enough times to bear responsibility in those areas.

The Philippines was America's main colonial adventure.

Nicaragua was created by warring American factions.

Texas and Hawaii!

Irish Free state.

Don't laugh. It's true.

I'm thinking Czechoslovakia was due to some illiterate in the Wilson administration.

Israel, clearly

US had a hand in Lebanon too.

The US didn't "birth" a country other than maybe Liberia and Israel.

Colonial adventures and interference with internal affairs isn't "birthing," so Haiti et al are out.

Libera and Israel. Quite the accomplishments.

Depends on how you define it.

The US "birthed" modern Iran by overthrowing the democratically elected leader and replacing him with decades of brutal totalitarian rule by the Shah in order to ensure a steady oil supply. Once overthrown, the new, militantly anti-US Islamic state has not been particularly happy with it.

I'm birthing British royalty!

Kosovo

R13, "birthed" is being used in reference to the UK birthing Canada and Australia. It clearly means colonization by migration. The UK didn't "birth" India or Egypt, so the US didn't "birth" then Persia.

The US partially birthed Israel and Liberia. That's it. American populations made up substantial segments of their official populations

UK: Canada, Australia, New Zealand

US: Israel and Liberia

Guess the UK's just better at it.

Not Israel -- we paid for it, but the people who intruded in that area were made up of those from Europe and Russia as well as the US.

The federal republic of Germany, but then again, the nazis infiltrated the US, so, I guess those Germans re-birthed themselves.

Cuba

All you Jew haters ought to read the UN partition plan of 1947 which is what “created” Israel as well as an Arab land.

Except the Arabs rejected and started a war that still hasn’t ended.

And there had not been an independent country in the region then known as British Mandate Palestine since before the Romans took it over when it was Judea. (Aka the southern kingdom of Israel )

But don’t let historical facts get in the way f your bigotry

R20, who's being negative about Israel here?

I don't know nothin' 'bout birthin' no countries!

It would have been cool if the US actually had birthed a riff on the US somewhere. I'd live there instead probably.

The Brits did Israel too actually.

Oh they also did Iraq.

Panama exists solely because of the United States. It was part of Columbia and the US wanted to build the canal but they didn't like the terms that Columbia wanted. So the US convinced Panama to succeed from Columbia which they did with help from the US. The US got the land concessions they wanted around the canal zone and pretty much set up a puppet government friendly to the US.

The Confederate States of America, I hear it didn't last long though.

[quote]convinced Panama to succeed from Columbia

oh, dear. . .

I didn't succeed at Columbia -- I had to transfer to Hudson University.

The US has caused the death of four countries that many never knew existed. There was the Republic of Texas, The Kingdom of Hawaii, Vermont was an independent Republic before being admitted to the US, it had been claimed by New York declared its independence also explored joining Canada before being admitted to the US as a state. Some of the panhandle of Florida was a independent Republic of West Florida for a short period of time.

I never succeeded at spelling secede correctly, you got me R28

And you haven't succeeded at spelling "Colombia," either.

We don’t know nothing about birthin’ no countries.

Colombia University? Is that in Bogota?

What are we - chopped liver?

Bermuda, Jamaica, Belize, Cayman Islands, Barbados, Grenada, etc

[quote] And you haven't succeeded at spelling "Colombia," either.

Well two things are clear, I will always be horrible at spelling and you will always be a dick.

Really, R32? REALLY?

California was stolen off mexico.

Israel demands US funding, but is not interested in US language or freedoms, so it can't really be called born of the US.

California was its own Republic, as was Texas.

R38 Israel is the closest thing to the US in the Middle East in terms of culture democracy and equal rights.

Moron.

The U.K. technically birthed the US. It was a colony of theirs before it became independent.

Spain had more births than Ethel Kennedy

It's more of an abortion, but Florida.

The US wasn't really close to Israel until the late 60s-70s. If the US "birthed" Israel, so did the UK and the United Nations.

R39: All vital records and events are religiously controlled, there is no civil birth, death or marriage. Hence gay marriage will never be legal as no bishop, mufti, or orthodox rabbi will recognize them. That's complete anathema to the separation of church/mosque/synagogue and state that the US pioneered.

Oh and you can drop the attitude and name calling, so Daddy here doesn't have to take off his belt.

To the thread at hand, the Philippines has a system of political institutions very identical to ours though they have multiple parties and a very interesting interest group representation system in their House of Representatives. Basically, without the brutal American Empire, you don't get a democratic Republic of the Philippines. For what it's worth.

[quote] Basically, without the brutal American Empire, you don't get a democratic Republic of the Philippines. For what it's worth.

The Philippines declared independence from Spain in 1898. Then the Americans attacked and made the Philippines a colony. It took at decade to subjugate the country. As much as Americans want to believe that we bring democracy to the world, it's a lie.

Israel "birthed" itself. Or rather re-birthed itself.

Panama was let go by Bolivar because he kept trying to appease/bribe the generals who ran these Colombian states so he could keep fighting the Spanish long after Colombia/Grenada was rid of them. He'd have been better off going home to Bogota to help with strengthening the central government which is what was needed to build up the infrastructure and thus the economy.

R45: I'm saying we laid the institutional groundwork in the Philippines with our brutal occupation. Probably the only sliver lining to be found. The same arguments applies to the British Empire and India as well as the Caribbean island democracies.

US recognition definitely saved Israel.

Not a list to be proud of R34. And you forgot Brunei.

Also Tonga, Kiribati, Britain has had its dirty fingerprints everywhere!

South Korea, bitches!

People tell me the CIA was the most important factor in Greek independence after WWII!

There were (and are) American colonies, but we don't go to take over a place -- we go to drain it of money, and then leave.

If bringing US style democracy to the Philippines meant Marcos and Duarte, you have to wonder how fhe alternative could have been much worse...