People are pooping more than ever on the streets of San Francisco

I left my turd in San Francisco..

San Francisco is the new New Delhi.

F&F the obsessive scat troll

Hokey smokes that city grosses us out.

Thanks OP, just in time for my vacation next month in SF.

[quote]In 2011, just over 5,500 reports were logged by the San Francisco Department of Public Works; in 2018, the number increased to more than 28,000.

I'm a bit more flummoxed by there being 5,500 reports in 2011 - FIVE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED.

We’ll accept your apologies now.

Perhaps if CA didn't have its tax dollars redistributed to Red states, CA could provide services. Perhaps if the sitting president did not withhold federal dollars to punish blue states for being democratic, CA would have federal block grants for services.

I get it, OP. Schiff, Pelosi, Lieu and other CA Dems have cornered that fuck in the WH. So, it's only natural you would start a thread that subtly and not so subtly will bash Dem leaders.

Couldn’t they just set up those porta potties up and down Market Street, Mission and the Haight? Wouldn’t that solve the problem?

[quote]Couldn’t they just set up those porta potties up and down Market Street, Mission and the Haight? Wouldn’t that solve the problem?

Oddly, the arguments for and against are very similar to the ones for having sanctioned safe houses for shooting up and telling everyone to carry Narcan.

And before, some of you get your panties in a bunch, I am not equating pooping to being a heroine addict. The issue comes down to balancing the downside with the appearance of condoning or even supporting the underlying behaviors that make the solution necessary in the first place. Both solutions only address the symptoms to a much bigger problem without doing anything to address that problem. Thus, by mitigating the downsides, it allows people to ignore the "real" problem since the short-term and public "unpleasantness" is less an issue.

Good point R10.

Ugh. The scat troll is insatiable.

It’s from drinking all that green juice isn’t it?

r10, There ain't nothing wrong with being a heroine addict.

What San Francisco does today America does tomorrow. As they say.

I'm already on it, R15!

again it tells me they are not going hungry

If not for several outstanding warrants, we would call Miss Travel and be on a TWA Constellation tomorrow.

Impeach the mayor.

The federal government won’t allow SF to have save injection sites. If they did, a lot of the ODing and pooping on streets would end

The lack of sanitation there could lead to conditions that create a new plague.

The waste produces bacteria. Scavengers eat that crap. Flies. Rats. Birds.

Some of those scavengers carry fleas that suck blood and then carry the bacteria themselves.

And how many anti-biotics are still effective?

R21 I agree with the sanitation concerns alone!

Needs stamping out

I figured the next plague would start in San Fran sicko

I’ll take poopless streets in Indianapolis, Louisville and Cincinnati any day... People in Indiana don’t shit in the streets. Yeah... Who is civilized now?

This is partially our Govenor's fault as he even said he handled the homeless population poorly and that is why we are in the situation we are now. California and San Francisco have become too overly progressive as we don't want to offend anyone. This is a huge problem as we need rules and need to govern. Also, as we make CA more attractive to the homeless, we get daily imports from the rest of the states.

There needs to be a thoughtful approach at dealing with the homeless issue - not just throwing money at it to hope it goes away. It is starting to seem like the homeless have more rights than tax paying citizens. We can't move them and they are protected - but who wants or thinks it okay if they are sleeping in front of your house and taking a daily dump by your door. Tourism has taken a hit and like another has said we are going to start dealing with some 3rd world health issues/disease because of the conditions.

When we vote, we need to make sure we are truly educating ourselves as to who is the best person for the job. Don't blindly vote for all Democrats as we have a super majority in CA and that is not working at all

The Tenderloin has spread outwards to most of the downtown. It's made the city unbearable. My last visit was 2015 and I'm never going back.

Sanitation 101

I've taken San Francisco off my bucket list and added it to my shit list.

Well that's what happens if you force a nomadic life on people in an urban setting. If they can't even get a semi-permanent habitation like shipping containers or at least wooden crates with at least some degree of sanitation, of course they will shit on the nearest corner and then move on.

Homeless are a menace in LA too.

This thread is useless without photos.

SF has literally gone down the shitter. A friend has an office near the Tenderloin and his stories are cringe inducing.

Yet so freaking expensive to live in that SHITHOLE.

It's not a money issue, r8. It's a management issue.

It's probably a good thing all the immigrants are going to be dumped there, they won't stand for all this living and shitting on the streets nonsense and will probably force the local governments into finally acting.

We need to use that $$ for our homeless not for illegals.

R26 is on point. I was just working a few days in SF last week again. Such a beautiful place being defiled. It’s not a “homeless” problem as much as a drug problem tied in with a mental health crisis. Injection sites isn’t the answer. How will that stop people from shitting in the street? We need to massively expand mental health facilities and force those arrested that are on drugs into treatment. People don’t get released without a post release/treatment plan. Drugs are a scourge on our society. We think tiny houses and homeless centers will solve this? Without mandatory treatment, it’s like treating cancer with cigarettes.

[quote]Injection sites isn’t the answer.

Neither is mismatching subjects and verbs.

R38, the opioid crisis has hit other areas even worse than SF yet it's SF that has the feces problem.

You can't use plastic straws in SF. So, hey, it balances out!

r41, I'll bet there's a bigger fine for using a plastic straw than for shitting in the street in SF.

San Diego has a problem too - remember with had the Hep A outbreak and Los Angeles has a typhus one. We are getting hit with 3rd world diseases!!!

Again, we are getting to a point that we are overly progressive and rules and laws are not enacted or followed because we don't want to hurt anyone. And yes to Cher and another poster point, we can't take on illegal immigrants too as we are hitting a point of no return.

And 2018 was the first year that Los Angles actually lost population (-16,000). Prior years were a gain of 30,000 plus. People, you start losing the tax payers and all the progressive measures you pass won't mean shit.

And, don't get me wrong, I'm an Independent - I wish there were more of us because you really need to educate yourself and not vote just down party line (especially in CA).

Pretend it has nothing to do with homelessness and that it’s all political commentary and performance art. Enjoy.

I like my artists to shit in cans and seal them up.

I agree r43. Injection sites, clean needle exchanges, narcan everywhere... it’s enabling more drug use because it’s giving users, who do not want to change, easier access to drug hygiene and overdose solutions.

Human shit is no worse than dog shit. I can't see the problem.

EEEK

[quote]Human shit is no worse than dog shit. I can't see the problem.

Most dogs have owners there who are supposed to pick up the shit.

What R38 said

100%

It's about mental illness AND drugs.

You can't force people to get treatment.

ABC should do a TV show about this and call it [italic]The Shits of San Francisco[/italic].

R49 - we could train dogs to pick up human poop

What a Dump!

What a loss - one of our greatest cities is now a homeless/drug infested haven. And, our politicians how allowed it (actually caused it) - when are we going to say ENOUGH.

R54 you give up certain rights to have tidy and order

see:Singapore

SF is now officially flyover country.

Look at #7.

They’ll have to change the name of that SF-set Rodgers and Hammerstein musical to [italic]Flower Dump Song[/italic].

To R57's post, WOW - it should not be on the list for those very reasons. The prices are out of control, the City has some major problems and for a large amount of people, they are living beyond their means or just making it. There have been multiple articles and segments on teachers having to live in their cars (basically homeless).

Los Angeles and San Diego are on their way to SF status but that will be long off since both cities are so spread out. But, don't use that as an excuse, politicians do your job (and it they are not, vote them out even if they are a democrat).

I’ve been a San Francisco resident for more than 30 years and travel around the city on foot, by car, and on public transportation. I also travel around the country with some frequency for my job and believe that I have a reasonable basis for comparison. While my opinion may be based on subjective data, think I can safely say that we’re a long way from drowning in fecal matter and, despite many problems (widening income gaps, extreme lack of affordable housing), my city has been good to me. Homelessness in San Francisco (and in other US cities) is a complex problem with deep economic, social, and psychological roots. Until we begin to systematically address these causes — as a city and as a nation — the problem will continue to grow.

Excuse me, a dog doesn’t shit turds the size of a human forearm.

This is just hysterical hygiene fanatics making a fuss about nothing. A first world problem if ever there was one.

It’s an urban issue. I live in a rural area. If I saw someone shit on a sidewalk, I’d call the sheriff. They would be arrested.

R63 chooses an image of a black person when there are many white people doing the same.

The amount of shit on the streets of SF, and public defecation, is alarming. This has not been seen on such a level in a Western city since the 19th century.

We could be like China and just send them all to work camps.

SF sounds like a paradise for scat queens.

"In 2011, just over 5,500 reports were logged by the San Francisco Department of Public Works..."

"logged"....hee, hee, hee.

Free Buches de Noel in SF.

R60 Good post, I have owned a home in SF for 15 years and love the time I spend here. Problems with inequality and homelessness? Absolutely, but in no way unique in this country, or in many others.

This is comparatively a very small city; the worst areas in town are directly adjacent to the concentrated downtown business/shopping/tourist core, which intensifies this hygiene hysteria. Anyone who thinks that SF has a worse homeless, drugs, and filth problem than LA, Chicago, Philadelphia, Seattle, Portland, San Diego, doesn't get out much.

I wonder why the socio-economic disparity and rampant homelessnes

Why can't they all just be sent to Treasure Island?

R63 I bet his number two stank

Why don't these people just wear diapers?

This is one more example of the rising mental illness in these United States.

Whatever happened to the old concept of public restrooms. Staff them if you have to to maintain order but geez it seems simple.

It’s more like heroin use

Make them wear butt plugs.

Chicago is way cleaner than San Francisco

If Divine were alive, this would be where [italic]Pink Flamingos 2[/italic] was set.

It’s a scourge of society- heroin!

I think Divine would've drawn the line at San Francisco...

Those of you denying the facts have become immune to your environment. FFS its not normal to have any part of any city covered in shit.

Perhaps they can use them to make bricks to build houses.

R84

You may be arguing with people who have contributed to the sidewalks on occasion.

Why isn't this a trans issue?

Is it anything to do with Islam?

I hate this attack on the differently abled.

Why don't bring back the looney bin, god knows POS like Trump shouldn't be allowed into the streets.

and now it's a Trump thread. 90 posts. You treason girls are slipping a little. Usually you ruin a thread with your obsessiveness before 20 posts.

The scary thing is that OP's statistics are being driven by just four specific individuals who moved there in 2012.

R92 = poop denier. Must be a SF resident.

Four individuals were responsible for 28K scat incidents last year?

That's impressive.

The I bet the SJW’s and the left tech people literally ignore this or see it and repulsed but will never tell you they are repulsed.

Cruel and heartless San Francisco yuppie progressives protest new homeless shelters.

What's the big deal about a bit of poop on the streets. It's a bit gross but hardly life-threatening.

It spreads disease-enabling bacteria, R97. AIDS already destroyed enough of what was good about this city; do you really want to lower ourselves to the level of a third-world country?

What’s sad about this is that they have public toilets but they are often locked or poorly maintained.

r96 I can't blame them. Homeless shelters in residential neighborhoods cause giant problems for the people living there.

Let's be honest, would anyone really be sad if we killed all the homeless and druggies? How much value would be lost?

[quote]Cruel and heartless San Francisco yuppie progressives protest new homeless shelters.

[quote]San Francisco’s renowned waterfront hosts joggers, admiring tourists and towering condos with impressive views. It could also become the site of a new homeless shelter for up to 200 people.

r96 - homelessness is a real problem that ought to be addressed from multiple vectors, not just housing.

At the same time, I don't quite understand why a homeless shelter has to be placed in one of the most expensive areas of the city. There are plenty of areas where the real estate would be cheaper and more affordable facilities could be built. Now, I can see the argument that more affordable real estate (i.e., poorer neighborhoods) shouldn't have to take the brunt. But, doesn't that also admit that it is a burden? At a basic level, it seems more like someone is trying to make a point, as well as punish "rich people," than anything else. While all real estate in the city is expensive, there are other locations which probably make more sense.

200 homeless people should not take priority of several thousand residents of those neighborhoods.

Open up Alcatraz as a homeless shelter and ship them all over there!

[quote]Open up Alcatraz as a homeless shelter and ship them all over there!

Seems like Hunter's Point or out by Candlestick would be more appropriate locations for a homeless shelter.

But are they pooping in stores yet?

That "People Who Poop In Stores" thread was a laugh riot. Fucking Muriel just HAD to delete it. Cunt.

Most people are opposed to genocide, R100. But if figures that DL would attract those who think genocide is a good idea.

R96 The proposed site is surplus city-owned property, and these centres should be spread around the City vs. concentrated in just one area. These protestors are just wealthy homeowners who believe that San Francisco's problems all need to be solved by other people.

I feel bad for the small retail store owners who have to put up with this.

Isn't this an opportunity for some industrious citizen to harvest all of this free biomatter, and covert it into usable compost? You could sell it for $5 a bag, and your clients would be able to feel they have helped the environment and the SF economy at the same time.

Could they also turn the used needles into Etsy crafts?

If you're GO-ing, to San. Fran. Cisco,

Be sure to SHIT, out in the open air . . .

Why doesn't the council provide portaloos?

I feel I also should mention that, the supposed massive increase of poo is largely a function of increased ease of reporting: the city has released a new anonymous 311 phone app and now will also accept Twitter reports.

Actually R100, I think a lot of people feel that way tho they would never admit it. I'm surprised people haven't organized Purge Nights.

How many success stories do you hear about some homeless guy living in a tent in Venice who gets on his feet and is now VP in Charge of Accounts?

Send them all to Mexico. Let's see how Mexico likes getting our trash dumped on them, for once.

It's pathetic. There is major lack of leadership in SF on this issue. They don't have a plan and anytime low income or transitional housing is proposed, the residents shoot it down. The city is too lenient and the regular citizens are so sick of it but largely ignore it. There needs to be a 1 homeless 1 bed policy, and any extras need to be shipped to other counties where there is a bed for them. And the condition for getting a bed is to agree to treatment and job training. This policy of letting homelessness become a lifestyle or turning a blind eye is very bad.

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Should this be SF's unofficial anthem??

Starbucks is now the barometer of societal breakdown.

I am now wondering if gentle euthanasia is the answer. It's the only humane way to deal with any kind of infestation.

A garrote and a firm, steady hand can solve even the most pesky of nuisances.

They should gather all homeless, put them in a camp and find out what their problems are and triage accordingly, but do NOT let them leave without sharing all information a normal citizen would. Nor should they be allowed to go back to living on the streets. Any new homeless would also be gathered up and have to do the same paperwork and be processed. This touchy freely crap is not working.

People, this is not rocket science. These people need facilities where they are cared for, not allowed to roam and get caught up in drugs, or scare the public. It's called mental hospitals, and it can be done better than before they were all shut down. This is NOT progress.

Except the homeless in SF don't want to go to mental hospitals. They would rather live in parks and then forage for food because the city allows it. Until there is a crackdown and not tolerated it will only get worse.

Mental hospitals are historically not voluntary, R124 . That's called a homeless shelter.

I love the thought of all those gentrifying bastards seeing and smelling shit everywhere.

SF doesn’t have enough beds for homeless and many of them don’t want to be in the system. It sounds mean but they need to be shipped to other counties and commit to a program. If they don’t, they should be put down.

R127 is a normal democratic socialist.

Killing people that don’t fit in with your beliefs about society is typical of people who support democratic socialism.

Talking about human beings as if they are animals to be slaughtered is just a socialist being honest.

If someone doesn’t want to get better OR be in a hospital.... euthanasia is humane and saves resources.

What do you want? An underclass of people who shit in the streets? What is the value in that? Making you feel like you are a compassionate liberal? It’s irrational and dangerous to public health to not have a plan but instead to worry about “feelings.”

Send DeBlasio out there at the first outbreak of cholera

Why can't we just dump them in Mexico or another fine country down south? Tit for tat.

Do you know what a country like China or Singapore would do in this situation? The US is very, very lenient in comparison.

The Alcatraz idea is brilliant!

SF has let this happen. Too much progressive bullshit and not enough action.

When there's a cholera outbreak maybe they will stop enabling.

R133 Singapore? Agreed. Wouldn’t happen.

But China? No. Chinese people shit anywhere and everywhere.

r97, here ya go:

Mental illness and addiction. But who has the political will to deal with it? People call the twitter building the shitter blgd - 2 million dollar condos and $27 burgers next to tents and sleeping bags and human shit. Sad

Does Oakland also have this problem?

Yes. But not as bad as San Franshitco

The Dedicated SF Poop on the Streets of SF Troll is a real DL highlight. Bonus points for the poop colored Bar Graph of Increasing Poop.

^^^Ignore first "SF" ^^^

I can't find the article, OP. Would you please link it?

Why can't they just get some Singapore-style administration? Jeeze — they could afford some consultants from Singapore, and execute a damn plan.

Parochial NIMBYism and third-world streetlife are two sides of the same coin. Get rid of both.

May I suggest a form of Soylent Green. It solves the problem of homelessness and will provide food for the poor. Also, if properly packaged , including all the right key words such as ' Organic, Gluten free, Artisan ,Free Range,locally sourced ' it could be sold to the pretentious ' Foodies ' that seem to have nested in San Francisco. It's a win win situation.

Has anyone seen this first hand? Is it widespread I mean if you show up in San Francisco as a tourist would you run into feces

Yes, r146, if you venture much on the streets, alleys, and into the parks.

R147, that is pathetic. How bout the homeless? Are they hostile and engage in criminal activity?

When I was in SF last year I naively assumed all the poop on the sidewalk was from very large dogs.

Human poop is full of bacteria. Homeless are notorious drug users with needles. Many of them have hep C . Hep c virus Can live outside of the body for two weeks. Let that sink in

[quote]It sounds mean but they need to be shipped to other countries and commit to a program. If they don’t, they should be put down.

They could be sent to the carousel and renewed.

Hey San Francisco, don't you wish you could turn back the clock to when you thought my followers selling flowers was your biggest problem ?

R60 is exactly what's wrong with San Francisco and the Bay Area.

"Until we begin to systematically address these causes — as a city and as a nation — the problem will continue to grow."

I hear this shit (pun intended) literally all the time. From politicians, bleeding heart 20 year olds who don't know their ass from their mouth, in our neighborhood forum, community activists and IT IS ALL CODE for JUST KEEP DOING MORE OF THE SAME UNTIL SOMEONE ELSE FINDS A SOLUTION.

I too travel for work and pleasure a lot. A lot of cities have people who are willing to say "Get your shit together (pun intended again) if you want to live here with me."

San Francisco is filled with the same aging progressives who started its problems in the 70s and 80s are still clinging to their worldview from the time and rent-controlled apartments at rates from those decades. And techie millennials who don't give a shit (pun intended... see my drift) about anything but what's on the screen in front of them. Neither have a solution and I guarantee you neither demographic is personally doing jack SHIT to "systematically address" the regional, state, national, international, CRAP of which they complain.

Just came back from Mexico City and even that city was by far cleaner than San Francisco.

In a carefully staged photo op, SF Mayor "Roy Conway's bought product" Breed meets a bum and offers a 'concerned face.'

Just ship them all to Oakland.

That Starbucks thing totally grosses me out. I never used their bathrooms so I had no idea it was a problem. I prefer to poo and pee at home. Especially the poo part. I WILL NEVER GO TO STARBUCKS AGAIN.

R153, what's your specific solution to the problem? One that can be legally accomplished and not struck down as a violation of civil rights?

I find the homelessness problem fascinating as it is truly at the center of so many different issues in our society. I'll be the first to admit that I really don't know what SF as a city should specifically do about it.

litter boxes

[quote] I'll be the first to admit that I really don't know what SF as a city should specifically do about it.

Everybody should wear a ribbon !

They need to institute a zero-tolerance policy for homeless. If you sleep on the streets then you will be arrested for vagrancy. This bullshit about their rights to be homeless has got to go.

Homeless or like real life zombies

R155 Oakland has the same problems. Home Depot reached out to city government threatening to close two Oakland area locations because nearby homeless encampments are the source of crimes that affect their business and customers.

Of course the CRAPPY progressive response has been overwhelmingly against Home Depot. “If only Home Depot did more for the community...” with many flat out saying Home Depot should be throwing money at it. You know the jobs, service to customers, and taxes they pump into the community isn’t enough.

That’s the Progressive problem. SOMEONE ELSE should be doing more, giving more, etc. etc. because my goodness THESE PEOPLE HAVE RIGHTS!!! Housing is a fundamental rights and we need to do more! SYSTEMATICALLY! REGIONALLY! NATIONALLY!

That shot of Mayor Breed is on Castro St. just by the Castro Theater. That historical strip of the City is now home to crime-ridden addicts, thanks to its progressive supervisors who are quick to pat themselves on the backs for their efforts to get people to ask “what MORE can SOMEONE ELSE do???”

Crappy policies - crappy results.

wow, I did not know that about Starbucks, thanks for the info.

I usually don't go to public toilets, if I have to go, I go to a fancy place that most likely have clean toilets, that only happens once in a blue moon.

r95 you get called classicist for telling the truth. "You hate all homeless people" no I don't. Just realize there are some bums and some down on your luck people. we need to find separate ways to deal with the different situations. Acknowledging the problem makes you a bigot now a days apparently

Free distribution of heroin or any opiod drug will SOLVE this problem. Everyone will be too constipated to poop on the street.

Problem solved.

[quote] Free distribution of heroin or any opiod drug will SOLVE this problem.

back during the crack plague black activists already claimed that was a deliberate policy of genocide against minorities so I guess this door is closed.

R144 is right. Or everyone should just leave.

California.

Why arrest the woman when PETA and the Human Society kill thousands of puppies every month.

Killing Animals: PETA’s Open ‘Secret’

R169, the Humane Society does no such thing. And barbiturates are hugely different from a fiery dumpster.

Its happening everywhere. But in the case of the link below I think people are being nasty. After all people who drive around and deliver parcels - where are they supposes to go to go to the toilet. After all, I wouldn't let a delivery person that I don't know into my home to use the toilet. If you have to go, you have to go.....

[quote] If you have to go, you have to go.....

Undeniably but professional drivers come prepared for such instances.

It appears to be a popular pastime in Australia....

R172 But could a person do a No. 2 in that?

which came first? the homeless or the poop?

the sky high rents or the homeless?

Concerned SF citizens should organise poop patrols to bag it and bin it.

While I think of myself as generally liberal and kind in most respects, if a junkie ODs and dies, he ODs and dies. It's sad it came to that, but it did. It's not like he's going to be rehabbed back to his promising career as the world's greatest cancer researcher.

A little Darwinism never hurt anybody, so long as it's accidental. I draw the line at camps.

I agree r177. Most of these people are just mentally fucked-up drug addicts and that's it. They're incapable of being rehabbed into productive members of society. They're a nuisance and a drain. Fuck 'em.

Bigot

Camps can be fun! That is much preferable to letting this menace multiply.

Diseases are going to come from this.

R175 called it.

Isn’t it going to end in crazy homeless stabbing and killing people? It’s disgusting.

Yes, one way or the other

California progressives are about to give absolute control of the schoolrooms to the worst disrupters, and you even imagine they would take any action against the sanitation problem ?

𝐂𝐚𝐥𝐢𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐧𝐢𝐚 𝐌𝐚𝐲 𝐁𝐚𝐧 𝐒𝐜𝐡𝐨𝐨𝐥𝐬 𝐅𝐫𝐨𝐦 𝐒𝐮𝐬𝐩𝐞𝐧𝐝𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐒𝐭𝐮𝐝𝐞𝐧𝐭𝐬 𝐅𝐨𝐫 ‘𝐖𝐢𝐥𝐥𝐟𝐮𝐥 𝐃𝐞𝐟𝐢𝐚𝐧𝐜𝐞’

SACRAMENTO (CBS13) – The California State Senate voted to ban schools and principals from suspending students for “willful defiance” of teachers, staff, and administrators.

The Senate approved SB 419 Monday by a vote of 30-8. It moves to the Assembly next.

A similar bill was vetoed by Governor Jerry Brown last legislative session.

Under the new version (Senate Bill 419), students in grades 4-8 wouldn’t be suspended for disrupting school activities or willfully defying school authorities, including teachers and staff. The bill would also ban schools from suspending students in grades 9-12 for the same thing until January 1, 2025. The law would apply to both public and charter schools.

Existing law already prohibits schools from suspending children in grades K-3 for disrupting or willful defiance. Existing law also prevents schools from recommending the expulsion of students in all grades for disrupting or willful defiance.

^Wow. Already seeing this shit in Florida. Comes down to money, as usual.

As R176 suggested, why don't people just do something about it themselves instead of moaning. You can't rely on the authorities to deal with this problem.

I have an SF pal who posted a video of two bums (male/female) below her window shooting up, shitting in the gutter, then fucking, all within a few minutes. It got censored by Facebook.

Keep it classy, SF!

Slip some arsenic into the heroin supply SF's homeless problem will be taken care of in less than a week.

R189 = psychopath

R188 - That's an actual porn sub-genre in Japan.

Oh come on r190! It can be done in a very humane way. They'll never know what happened. They'll just lie down in a pile of their own shit on the sidewalk and peacefully drift off to DEATH.

CALIFORNIA is doomed

What does Oakland senator Kamala Harris say about the homeless problem? Better yet, what has she done? Free college? Reparations?

Techbros shouldn't be allowed to vote.

What does American political hero, Kamala Harris, have to say about school suspensions?

[quote]You can't rely on the authorities to deal with this problem.

R187, do you mean that you can't rely on the authorities because they're hopelessly dysfunction and useless, or that you can't rely on the authorities because it's not their problem?

I would say there's hardly a problem that's more of a job for the authorities. If they can't at least keep a city clean, orderly and safe, what use are they?

^^^"hopelessly dysfunctionAL ..."

R197 - I mean you can't rely on the SF authorities to deal with this problem because I hear that they are incompetent and useless.

I live in a poor part of south London with a massive problem with litter and used needles. The corrupt local authority won't deal with it so a group of 20 people from the neighbourhood go and pick the stuff up after work and at weekends. I wish we didn't have to, considering the high local taxes we have to pay, but we can't see another option.

If they made homelessness/vagrancy illegal, it would put an end to the problem. Insist homeless people live in shelters or be arrested.

[quote]And 2018 was the first year that Los Angles actually lost population (-16,000). Prior years were a gain of 30,000 plus. People, you start losing the tax payers and all the progressive measures you pass won't mean shit.

OMG, you mean people are actually leaving LA? Thank god, please take more with you so I can enjoy it for myself. Only 10 million more to go.

Progressives solve problems, Regressives AKA Republicans always make things worse. It's the Repugs that always vote down a way to deal with the homeless. All they care about is low taxes and yelling at a homeless guy to get a job.

R198:

"hopelessly dysfunctional to youuuuuuuu . . ."

The reason local government was set up back in the 1800s was to improve sanitation.

Drains, waterworks, public toilets, refuse collection, all that boring good stuff was built and managed by local councils to protect residents from getting ill.

It surprises me that public authorities think that these essential requirements can be done away with.

How do you deal with a person with complex mental and drug use issues? How do you deal with hostile communities, who believe that it is another area's problem to deal with, knowing full well that if these people were 'shipped-off' anywhere, they would rapidly be replaced by more people coming in.

Homelessness is a complex issue. Public authorities are I'll equipped to deal with it.

" Progressives solve problems." Then why do almost all of the big cities dominated by Democratic leadership have such terrible problems?

You cannot create prosperity for all by placing byzantine rules and regulations on everything. Those cost money to enforce, and those costs get passed on to the consumer.

r204 it's the result of everyone wanting to live in progressive cities. Even here on DL all the red cities suck! I have not heard one good thing about red cities or red states in terms of living. The demand plus regulation creates high prices.

As for the homeless problem that's a combination of people being priced out plus other cities busing their crazy bums to them.

Shorter R206: "It's everyone else's fault."

How many other cities need to tally “human feces in the street incidents?”

I can't think of a single Southern city that has this problem, R208.

I agree [R209] And I noticed a big difference last time I was in SF. Here in NYC, we sure have a lot of homeless, but not the poop problem or the aggressive panhandling

I'll never forget how this homeless person peed, she had an empty soup container like they use for chinese take out, she put that into her pants, they were baggy, she had lots of layers of clothing, it was winter and just did it right on the side walk, didn't care who saw, this was many years ago in NY.

I see homeless pooping in ny too. I've seen them do it between parked cars, by the trees on the sidewalk etc.

[quote] in NYC, we sure have a lot of homeless, but not the poop problem or the aggressive panhandling

NYC had a real problem with the squeegee panhandlers until Giuliani cracked down on this shakedown. San Francisco leadership won't. I see it's also back again in Baltimore.

If you let a homeless person use your toilet, it’s a 45 minute stall commitment.

It’s called “camping” because they have to hang and organize their baggage. Then, there’s the tp nest. This is without drug use, btw.

It’s unfortunate that it will take a disease outbreak or a series of murders before SF does anything. The City government is weak and fucked up.

[quote] It’s unfortunate that it will take a disease outbreak or a series of murders before SF does anything.

That could have been quite an episode of [italic]Murder She Wrote[/italic].

Frisco has a history of plagues. They've always been filthy.

Big fat hairy deal. We had ten at one time. We had to get rid of our slaves to stop them.

OP That might be true, but Seattle is definitely Number 1, in public Number 2ing in the entire western, “civilized” world. Even the homeless are passive aggressive in Seattle and despite a multitude of programs, resources, and handouts, they continue to relieve and express themselves like toddlers doodling with doo doo. Seattle is dying, if not already dead. If Seattle was a fish it would have been flushed 15 years ago. As Crank Yankers loved to say, too many (in public, on the sidewalk) poos, we all lose. 💩

NY has almost 80K homeless so they are definitely pooping somewhere.

Do rats eat poop?

Then why not New Jersey, R219?

The sad thing is that this is the new normal. The homeless issue paralyzes politicians and all they’re willing to do is fund a few shelters, allow camps, and declare hands off policies. Homelessness and all of the problems it brings are with us permanently now, because there is no will to do what it takes to address it. The problem is hard wired into our system, where wealth is concentrated at the top and the bottom half of society divvies up meager incomes. There are a lot more losers than winners in such a system.

Yeah. My rent just went up for the third time in three years, but I looked around and the place I'm renting is still a steal compared to other places in town of comparable size and amenities.

SF has about 1 out of 100 who are homeless , or more, in a 7 mile square plot. I don’t know where they are concentrated in NY.

We'll know the homeless problem is being dealt with when TPTB figure out how to get away with a Soylent Green type product.

People

People who eat people

Are the yuckiest people

In the world

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If you voted for the people who passed these laws, then you helped enable this state of affairs.

In Seattle, this problem is directly related to extreme leftist politics, specifically our last two mayors (one a pockmarked pedo and the other a shrill lesbian, focused on criminal lawsuits, plastic straws and unisex bathrooms, increasing taxes, building ugly, low quality, enormous micro apartments with shared kitchens and bathrooms and no parking), feast your eyes on these two weirdos:

https://youtu.be/669udta-jxI

https://youtu.be/qjHabxUDPxQ

Political correctness, mild climate, programs that attract addicts who have become homeless and are leaving states with the intelligence to not encourage behaviors that degrade people, a total disregard for common sense, and unbalanced set of priorities.

r229, high rents have nothing to do with this?

Don't give money to homeless people. They are liars. There is this man in a wheelchair every day in front of my supermarket but I've seen him get up and push his wheelchair to another location when the supermarket closes at night.

Don't be fooled by their sob stories. In the subway, you will always get someone who will say they need X amount bus fare to go somewhere or for a night in some hostel or whatever, all lies.

High rents are just one consequence of our inflated cost of living from the politicians’ never-ending thirst for more money to fuel worthless programs through fees, taxes and money grabs. Like many American cities run by leftists, we’re building all kinds of museums and safe spaces, but the streets and the infrastructure are completely falling apart. If inly the homeless would poop in the potholes that are never fixed.

Strobe lights beam create dreams Walls move bowels do too On a warm San Franfeses neight.

R71, you are dead wrong. San Francisco's poop and homeless problem is far worse than MOST American cities. As someone who lives in Chicago, I can tell you I have rarely if ever seen human feces on the streets and although you definitely see homeless people, it is NOT on the level of the west coast cities. Not even close.

So where are the NYC himelesa pooping and why isn’t it a problem here?

The last time I was in NY, the only homeless I saw were in Central Park South. But otherwise I did not see any. Are they underground plotting to kill us with ✂️ scissors?

leftists are responsible for raising the rents to build museums instead of using the monies to round up homeless people and ship them......somewhere else...

R237

I know dear. Too many moving parts for you to process at once.

Let's remember a better time. Pre-shit.

Poop threads always have a good run on DL

R199 You should "drop off" your collections at the next open political hearing/meeting. The pricks!

It's the heroin addicts who have the shitting problem. They become like animals, or zombies, on the drug. They wouldn't be able to stop themselves from crapping in the street even if SaniJohns were set up on every corner. I'm sure part of it is also a social contagion aspect: the addicts and homeless see each other shitting with abandon and suddenly everyone's doing it because it feels pointless to make an effort when no one else is. For years I picked up after my dog every single time he pooped even if it was in a place no one would ever step in it, but then we moved to an area where NO ONE picked up after their dogs and I eventually stopped doing it because it felt pointless. So there needs to be some kind of cultural shift in Frisco back to the mindset of "it's mortifying to crap in public." But mostly for any positive change there needs to be a resolution to the opioid epidemic.

No one in the country knows what to do to deal with the heroin crisis. No red state or blue state politicians have the answers. No one seems to have the resources. What's the solution? If you're cynical, you could make the case that Narcan shouldn't be distributed for ODs. Why spend thousands on meds to revive people a dozen times or more from the brink of death if you don't have the resources to do anything further for them to get them clean?

It’s very true. Unless San Franciscans wake up and say no, it will only get worse. Every time I ride BART, there are people begging for money and people ignoring them. The shitting and begging on the street is disgusting and creating a culture of apathetic zombies.

R242 Absolutely correct. SF, Seattle, Portland, they all have a huge ADDICTION problem that manifests itself in homelessness and all of the out of control antisocial behaviours that come with it. No one is sleeping under a bridge shooting dope because the rents are too high in their neighbourhood.

I'm sorry but I'm too lazy to scroll up. Someone up thread said the hep c virus lives up to how many days? please repeat the info. TIA.

I took prescribed Vicodin for about a month and could hardly shit at all. Does heroin not have same effect?

For R245.

I’m curious where they are in NYC. Having lived here 30 years, they seem to have disappeared - even though there is clearly a large number according to the above. Maybe they get isolated in the Bronx or Far Rockaway because they can’t afford the subway and its gotten harder to jump the turnstiles.

I agree it’s a complicated NATIONAL problem caused by income inequality, poor getting poorer, absence of menial jobs, absence of hope leading to addiction and mental illness without mental health resources - but I I have to admit it’s nice not having to deal with them as much, especially the aggressive panhandling and dangerously psychotic ones. Unfortunately, the progressive cities are getting stuck with them because that’s where the money and will to help is. Not sure what happens to them in Texas.

Buck would never poop on the streets of San Francisco.

Buck liked to be pooped on. While wearing your panties.

Just round up the bums caught shitting or doing hard drugs in public and bus them red states like Wyoming or Utah.

not quite, dear. your moving parts are missing more than a few pieces

Why can't we just do what China does and send them to forced labor camps?

Somebody needs to create special diapers for hobos. Kind of like Depends but maybe a bit more rugged.

R245, yes, Hep C lives outside the body for days. Many IV drug addicts are positive for Hep C

R248, you obviously don't use the subways or even live in the city because our great mayor has told nypd NOT to arrest turnstile jumpers, they are now merely stopped and given a ticket. I've seen it with my own eyes at union sq. Lots of crimes have now been decriminalized in NYC, they not gonna arrest you if you're found with pot for "personal use". that's just one example.

R239: A Quinn! Martin! Production!

Michael Douglas was a nice-lookin' fella back in the day.

It's not just drug addiction, it's mental illness.

my cab driver said when it rains it washes that poop over the sidewalks, food that on the ground,, and into nooks and crannys that dogs peek. my dog got very ill from eating sumthin on street, bread I think, vet urine tested her and she had coke, meth, etc in her. glad she did not die. I now hate every god dam homelss fuk I see.

vet said its an epidemic and one should keep band round dogs mouth to avoid death from homelss shit contamination. or don't walk them on public streets.

R254 If you give them diapers, you will have diapers everywhere. Warmer climates also attract homeless people.

R257 Michael Douglas was very fuckable in the 1970s.

City authorities need a team of mobile poop pickers like Paris has.

This is first and foremost a public health hazard that needs stamping out.

Don't get too big for your britches, San Francisco - Seattle is trying to out-poop you.

Can't the homeless be shipped back out to the town they came from?

Perhaps supply them with Chinese takeaway containers. ...

The homeless need to be given a room, detox and training to become city poop removal operatives.

That way the city can eradicate the problem and get the homeless off of the street.

First they must be collected

It will only get worse under Newsom

I remember back in the 70's I visited NYC in the summer. This was before people picked up the dog shit and the curbs and gutters were just filled with every color of the rainbow of shit and it had just rained and then sun came out and the stench was wretched. And then this sophisticated looking woman go into a cab and it drove off with this turd sticking out from the tire just going round and round. Quite the imagery.

Governor Newsom has actually talked about a shared burden among other CA counties. So SF, LA and San Diego would not be burdened with getting all the homeless. But the problem is leniency and apathy. It’s growing out of control and people need to be rounded up and removed.

The other California cities would revolt before taking in these dirty, criminal homeless people.

On average each county in CA could take 120 people and SF wouldn’t have a homeless problem. But I agree the other counties won’t go for that. The issue in SF is that there is too much talk of compassion and not enough direct action.

THE leftist politicians don’t care about the poor. They live in an ivory tower bubble

Seattle is a cesspool. Born and raised there, but am moving away in June!!! This kind of lunacy is coming to a town near you, so keep that in mind when you vote.

Many of us have started non-partisan, community organizations that look for evidence-based solutions to raise awareness regarding the "homeless" and addiction problem. We have started pushing back at City Hall when they claim they can't do anything about the problem - other than throwing more money at it (and of course, raising taxes).

Seattle leadership has turned a blind eye to increasing property crimes, violent crimes, drug use, drug dealing/selling, illegal parking, littering, loitering, camping in city parks and aggressive panhandling - while taxing more serious behavior with the soda-pop/sugary drink "Sugar tax" and banning plastic straws/bags. These "solutions" tell you all you need to know about where the priorities lie in Seattle, San Francisco and other similar cities.

If you are interested in politics, start watching coverage of the Seattle City Council races. Of seven districts, we have 5 districts without an incumbant running and 2 with an incumbant seeking reelection.

While I think London Breed understands the various ways homeless need to be triaged, there is a lack of enforcement that make it immediately unacceptable for begging and harassing of citizens. It sounds like this is happening nationwide. At some point brawls will break out. I think they need to use the paddy wagon and start over. The failure of tech to also help to solve the problem is mysterious except they just want to make money.

Yes, it's correct that the tech people just want to make money. They have no interest in the community. None.

Not sure there are any easy answers - as shown in this thread. Except for the ever-ready simplistic right-wing argument “just arrest them” to prevent them from interfering with my life. I know it’s not easy living with - as I do on the streets outside my apartment - but this is the result of global capitalism creating hyper capitalist cities, the elimination of low skill, living-wage jobs, societal disconnection from technology and the disappearance of religion as a crutch. Very complex issues resulting in the simple reality of a homeless guy shitting on the street.

Remember in the 1980s, we said “lock ‘em up” was the solution. Then crime went away and we realized that abortion and social change corrected the problem. But we were left with laws that locked up people for years for pot.

Immediate problems need immediate solutions. Shit in the streets leads to disease outbreaks.

TECH Bros are just autistics with power. They care for no one but themselves

I notice San Francisco poop enthusiasts have grayed out the Op. No wonder California is so fucked up.

We're going to have a modern-day plague if this keeps up.

[quote] We're going to have a modern-day plague if this keeps up.

When it finally occurs after the junkies and homeless fall ill, it will be the woke do-gooders will carry the next stage. Karma.

So, R281, thousands of unclean, mentally ill, socially abhorrent and labor-useless people die. To be completely cold, that's a good thing.

cops don't remove em anymore, cause take em where? they out of jail in a day or 2, plus the have bedbugs and they don't wanna touch em or deal with that mess.

special force is needed to take em to the nut house 4 good. alas, tourism still huge so the mayor etc say wtf.....

horrible how its increasing in all citys

tax the rich/silicon valley fuks. and build big houses to put em in and keep em there. away from us

Sending them to jail costs ten times more than building little houses for them to waste their lives in, but no one wants to take responsibility or use the limited real estate. They'd end up starting fires and burning each other to death.

Boxes. Little Boxes.

A compost program that pays a Return For Deposit - say $5 per turd.

It would have to be automated to avoid scat trolls.

And, we wouldn’t discriminate based upon turd donor.

R288, here. I meant to say you can bring any mix of turds as long as you understand it’s $5 per turd - based upon common Kansan-weight turds.

set fire to tents!

[quote] As someone who lives in Chicago, I can tell you I have rarely if ever seen human feces on the streets and although you definitely see homeless people, it is NOT on the level of the west coast cities.

Uh hm, you realize that most of the people who originally settled in San Francisco came from Chicago right? Your descendants are dirty pigs, don't blame the west coat for that.

What they need is some kind of Hoarders team for the homeless.

Stop using Narcan.

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Sad stats

It's not just the danger of stepping in human poop piles on the sidewalk, it's the danger when the feces dry and become airborne.

Speaking of airborne, always close the lid of your toilet before flushing. If you don't, the "toilet plume" full of fecal particles can land travel up to 15 feet from the toilet and cover your toothbrush if it sits out.

but it's my fecal matter.

I didn’t realize NY is institutionalizing being homeless. Why work if the city gives you free rent?

THE homeless shelter in richest part of NYC will not end well

I also read a study where they said those air dryers for your hands actually blow fecal matter and other bacteria into your hands. Needless to say, I haven't used one since reading that. i always carry pocket tissue

R293 It save slices but it probably does enable heavy usage since “the help” is obligated to always revive them. So conflicted

R295 wait till the recession hits it’s gonna be wild! Hope you all prepared

R296, the poop-en-l'aire-obsessed queen.

Honey, I was just taking a splattery shit and thought of you! You sad neurotic thing, how can you stand to have bowel movements when you'll be coated in shit mist? You should just stop eating and wither away, you poor thing.

🤢 nasty

It’s unfortunate this thread is greyed out because it is so informative.

so funny the zillionaires in nyc will be coverd in hobo shit mist...

The “hobo shit mist” issue needs to be included on every presidential candidate’s platform.

It's so dumb Op is grayed out. Everybody here knows it's a legitimate story about a real problem San Francisco permits to deepen.

beto addressed shit mist today in his speech, others will follow, this is our major issue in 2019. eliminating shit mist and the bums that wont close the toilet seat from contaminating us all.

Illegal toilet spume is taking all our jobs.

It’s like involuntary aerosol poop immunization for those who do grammar not so good.

That's some expensive shit!

Anyone interested in a nice six-figure job dealing with shit mist?

[quote]The city's "Poop Patrol," a five-person team tasked with removing excrement, will be handling the power-washing duties. At Haney's press conference Tuesday, a new portable pressure-washing system was to be showcased. Based on the San Francisco Chronicle's estimate that each Poop Patrol employee earned a $184,000 in pay, perquisites and pension benefits, Forbes calculated that each human waste case cost taxpayers $32.75 in 2018.

Bum