Madonna's New Song Medellín

It sucks.

I wanted to love it. But I don't. It's boring.

It’s needs a remix! Not the best lead track off a Madonna cd. But hopefully the remainder of the cd is better

I like it, it's more distinctive than the same old techno dance thing she's been pushing since 2005.

Snore-a-rama Cha cha cha

It's interesting. Her voice is much better than it was 30 years ago. But the song is a bit dull.

I’m into it

Beautifully put together. I like it.

What a weird choice for a first song release. She's barely in it!

[quote]It’s needs a remix!

What fer? It's already goes on for 5 mins.

Very dull. I smell another stinking turd from Madge.

The lyrics are fucking trerrible - "Sipping my pain just like champagne found myself dancing in the rain".

R12 LOL!!!!! I thought the same thing.

r12 someone got a new rhyme book!!

"Sipping my pain just like champagne found myself dancing in the rain".

Her songs almost always had the most simpleminded wording, meaningful only to the equally simpleminded listener.

Trying to imitate Blondie/Debbie again.

This bitch needs to stop trying to compete with the 20 and 30 year olds and accept her that she is of mature age now.

In other words she needs to sit her old ass down and let the youngsters do this shit.

Who?

It’s shit

God awful. Lifeless like her

She can't complain about being ignored unless she produces music exceptional enough it shouldn't be ignored. This can't be a serious attempt at a comeback.

Like her - hate the song

Ooh snap, (R16).

Why can’t she make grown up music?

Time for a duets CD, granny.

Perfect song for a perfect summer ♥️

There won’t be anything perfect about this summer. It’ll be too goddamn hot, like always. I guess it’s perfect for the electric company with my air conditioner running all damn day and night.

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Come on, she sounds great. Sounds far away from "Living For Love" so off to a good start.

Who's the guy??? He's so hot

Right down to the slanted eye. She's pathetic

“one...two...cha cha cha.” wtf is this shit? Pathetic.

I actually think it's nice.

No, it's not "The Song of the Summer." But we need more than just that.

I like it, Maluma's voice is sexy, it is a fun song. It has way too much Spanish to become a hit in the US, though.

I think she purposely creates songs from a touring perspective at this point. Probably why the stupid cha cha stuff was included.

the joke's on us it seems

It's a bit too messy, the lyrics in spanish are cringe worthy. "Nos vamos por Detroit" is a tacky double entendré, it's an obvious reference to her place of birth but it also means "Let's do it from behind", something a fifth grader would find amusing.

I hear the 8-track has bonus tracks and remixes, r3.

When does the album drop?

It's not [italic]that[/italic] bad, but she did it better back in 1987.

No bad, definitely using auto-tune all through both singers. But then her voice has never been the sell- it's the hooks and the rhythms.

Stick to selling face cream, Madge.

La Isla Boniva (tm)

She's gone full Cher with the Cylon voice thing.

r16, thanks for posting that Debbie Harry song, love it.

as usual, madonna is a thief.

She needs to stop

I really didn't care for it at first, but now I can't stop playing it! It really does grow and evolve the more you listen to it.

Madonna doing the "Macarena". The original was shit, but this is 100 times worse. Don't blame Madonna though ...it is the reality of today. The music is dead!

The way too obvious auto tune ruins the song for me. It's a very basic, low tempo, Miami Dance Club Hit.

Wake me up when that power bottom maluma presents hole

Yumm

It's no worse than Give Me All Your Luvin'.

Oh, I like it MUCH better that GMAYL, R51.

R50 ...is that really Maluma?

I like it!

The new song Medellín on its 2nd day is already #1 on iTunes Europe songs and #2 on iTunes worldwide.

The audio video (not actual video) has over +3.3 million views on @YouTube

The song peaked #1 in 20 countries on iTunes.

How sweet, a Madonna fan.

Flop if she can't get at least a top twenty placement on Billboard Dance.

Flopdonna

Anyone can get a #1 on the dance charts.

I like it! Derivative of LA ISLA BONITA for sure, but a fun summer song. She's no fool. She's counting on her gays to learn all the lyrics then lip synch them while they dance the night away in Fire Island or Mikonos.

"Slow down, Papi."

LOVE THIS!

Stupid it was just released two fucking days ago. Some here are really stupid

Explain R63

Unlike other posters I don't think she should quit, I don't think she's too old, I don't think she's the worst person ever and so on, but I also don't like this song. It sounds like one of those generic Pitbull songs that's catchy but not special or unique or interesting. It's forgettable which Madonna never used to be.

I think she continues to make the mistake of not thinking she can pull off a song on her own. Maybe that's what execs tell her, I am not sure. She's been doing it for years now (going back to Justin Timberlake and Britney) and it never works for me. I think her best album in the past 15 or so years was Confessions and other than the Muslim man yodeling or whatever, she had no young new thing featured on any of those tracks.

[quote]"Sipping my pain just like champagne found myself dancing in the rain"

Needs to work with some better lyricists.

You are never really a flop until you bankrupt a state fair.

pathetic attempt to compete with the grandes and Halseys of today. time to hang it up.

OK, I have to ask: What's up with the eye-patch? Why impair your perfect vision for something as stupid as a fashion statement outside a costume party or Halloween?

LOOK AT THE AGENDA!!

-24th April MTV interview + video premiere

-1st May BBMAS

-3rd May "I Rise" released (rumor)

-4th May GLAAD Awards

-6th May Met Gala

-10th May "Crave" feat Swae Lee released (rumor)

-17th May "Future" feat Quavo released (rumor)

-18th May Eurovision Performance

-7th June "Dark Ballet" released (rumor)

-14th June album out

Can't she do more ballads ? The "Something to Remember" compilation is one of my favorites.

Can't wait to see her at the Met Gala, hosted by Gaga and Harry Styles.

Desperately Seeking Relevance. Sad the old cow has agreed to perform at the Eurovision final.

Hey, if they're buying, she's still selling. Nothing wrong with that.

They’re not buying. That’s the problem. She just announced that she’s releasing 5 songs before the album drops. She’s desperate. 3 songs streamed from an album = one full album stream.

[quote] Can't she do more ballads ?

Her voice is shot thus all the vocoder on the last three albums. Her voice is thin as hell a d high pitched. No one wants to hear a ballad from her. She can’t even sing them on tour.

[quote] The song peaked #1 in 20 countries on iTunes

iTunes is not a real music chart and it’s being bought in non-major markets... countries with populations the size of New Jersey.

Maluma has done some great duets with older stars...in order of quality. 1) Ricky 2) Thalia 3) Shakira ..... 54) Madonna.

I don't think that's true at all, R76. Madonna's voice was stronger on her Rebel Heart tour than I've ever heard it. I mean, nobody goes to a Madonna concert for the same reasons they'd go to a Kathleen Battle or Renee Fleming recital, but Madonna's voice has definitely improved. I just hope she classes it up some for the performances and doesn't wear that absurd grill! I HATE THAT THING!

Both of them look silly.

Haters gonna hate and they still cannot change anything 🤣

Exactly. If people like Madonna, Cher and Dolly can still sell out concerts and enjoy their work good for them. I'd still see all 3.

I hate latin sounds but this is so nice and lowkey that works for me.

[quote] Exactly. If people like Madonna, Cher and Dolly can still sell out concerts and enjoy their work good for them. I'd still see all 3.

What's their secret?!?!?!?!

[quote]Desperately Seeking Relevance. Sad the old cow has agreed to perform at the Eurovision final.

Preach! The only thing sadder would be if she had to resort to performing at State Fairs in her 40s! Can you imagine?

It’s a turd 💩

I was really hoping she would return to her roots like she did with “Confessions”

Medellin free falls down the itunes chart to number 22, a mere 48 hours after release.

The song is so generic, boring and lifeless.

State fairs pay the bills. Unless you bankrupt them and waddle off.

I love latin beats and this is really good. It's sweaty and sexy and I can't get enough of it. I was streaming it in my car this morning on the way to work.

You don't own a car.

LOL, Yes, I do, R91.

Vadgebot's back, posting umpteen "Fan" reviews and trashing Janet Jackson.

Cher and Dolly (and even Mariah) are in on the joke.

Madonna is not. And that's the whole problem.

Yes, you know the Loon is here when tour gross numbers start appearing

Madonna is the joke. Rich,but a joke none the less.

My pussy stinks!

You can't go by airplay or sales these days, especially for a woman over 50. It's all about the touring.

Yes, touring venues that Live Nation has contracts with. lol The charts are based on streaming. Streaming is what matters. She hooked up with streaming junky Maluma for a reason. However, not even he can save this turd.

Wow, it's not even top 20 on iTunes in the U.S. or Canada. That's really sad.

Madonna will never have another top ten hit again.

she has plummeted to #36 on itunes US after only 72 hours of release.

I didn’t like this but she is terrible at choosing singles, so there hopefully there are still some nice songs.

I also hate that she lives in Portugal, said her record would be inspired by fado and other portuguese music, the video was shot in Portugal and the singles is ...spanish...

[quote]You can't go by airplay or sales these days, especially for a woman over 50. It's all about the touring.

^This.

I suspect her tour will do well--not as well as her Sticky & Sweet or MDNA tours but very, very respectably for an artist of her age. It will be interesting to see just how physical her tour will be, given that she's gained some weight and aged.

What can I say? I'm a 48 year old gay man who grew up with Madonna. I've seen every tour she's ever done and this one will be no different. My favorite though was Confessions. It was just about perfect.

I call the last several years Madonna going through her "Diana Ross Stage." Arguably, she had the iconic success and music industry duration in this generation, that Diana Ross had with her music and career in the previous one; then Diana went to RCA Records, tried to compete with the younger talented ladies coming after her, fell on her ass going through some hard times and no more big record hits, but ended up staying around long enough to have a sort of career/image "comeback" as a bonafide music industry legend in the last 10 years or so. --Give Madge a few more years and bumps on her road, and she'll make it to that comeback stage again, too, IMO.

At 117? Vadge is done. When she isn’t getting the attention she wants she goes full desperation mode and pulls ridiculous stunts. Can you imagine what her fucking face will look like at 70??! That’s less than a decade from now. She wanted an acting career, then she wanted a directing career. She’s wanted to do anything but what she’s having to do now. Who the fuck wants to hear Like a Virgin from a 60 year old?!

Neaux

Medellin continues its slide down the itunes chart, temporarily holding on for dear life at #45.

I'm in Miami this weekend and interestingly enough this song is absolutely EVERYWHERE I go. They played it a fucking THOUSAND times at Twist last night. I've heard it on the beach, in passing cars, pounding out of shops, just about everywhere. I'm at the Setai Hotel and the young Latina maid who cleaned my room today was listening to it. I could hear it coming from her earbuds!

Screw all of you! I really, really like this song. It's addictive. I live in Orlando R109 and I hear it a lot here too. The dance floor at the Parliament House went ape shit last night when they played it.

Who gives a fuck, R110?

The man who went by the name of Mr. Hollywood on DL was a Hollywood insider. He said Madonna is having a major difficult time aging, she is arrogant, and a very rude person.

I too am 48 years old and I grew up listening to Madonna and watching her videos from day one of her career. However, I out grew her. Also, I can't stand her as a person. Her voice has always sounds like a little girl's voice. I give her credit when her songs came out in the past because they were different, catchy, and electrifying. However,this song stinks and their is nothing new in this song. It sounds like she was recording her self training herself for Dancing With the Stars.

No, I'm not going to act like the typical Fan Fag, and have my head stuck in a toilet bowl acting like Madonna is always flawless ,and she could do no wrong. Her video is like a collage of similar videos she has done in the past and its getting old. She constantly always reinvented herself ,and she would always spark curiosity. She truly was a savvy person. However, now she seems like she is trying to hold on dangling at the edge of a cliff.She wears a stupid eye patch and act like she is being edgy. Oh! she is praying in front of a stain glass church window! This lady is 61 years old ,and she needs to enjoy life and enjoy, especially, those kids that she adopted. If I had a billion dollars I wouldn't live my life trying to constantly stay on top.

I like her but this song about cha cha cha marks her official entry into John Waters' territory.

We're close to the same age, R112. I'm forty-four and also grew up with Madonna. I grew up in a tiny town in Mississippi where I was not the average gay kid. I played football and baseball, fucked cheerleaders, bragged about it to my buddies, and stuffed my same-sex attraction down so far it took years to deal with it. After high school I went off to college on a scholarship, graduated and became a civil rights attorney. As absurd as it might sound, I'm not so sure I'd be around today if it weren't for Madonna. No one would have ever known but I really, really hated myself back in high school and saw myself as not only defective but also dirty. Madonna was the first celebrity I knew who said being gay was okay, that it wasn't a big deal. It's hard to put into words but she really was the first accepting person I knew. My parents hated gay people, my preacher said they were all going to hell, and my friends reserved the word "faggot" for the most heinous and angry outbursts. Back then it was the worst thing a guy could be called.

Madonna got me through all those years, and now I think Madonna is just doing what she's always done--making the kind of music she likes. I also think she's at a point where she doesn't care a whole lot about what others think, as long as she's happy. She's not perfect and is probably terribly difficult to be around but I love her anyway. I also really like Medellin. I like the Latin beat and I think she sounds great.

It's got to be a tough thing to go from being so clearly ensconced at the top to where she is now, not that she's irrelevant by any means; she's a legend for fuck's sake.

It's bizarre how someone we will never know can still impact out lives in such a meaningful way.

Thank you for the great post, r114. I also remember Madonna being a great ally and advocate for "alternative lifestyles" growing up in the 90s (Europe). I'm not what you would call a die hard fan of hers, I've never seen her on tour etc, but I always listen to what she does with genuine interest and find myself very frustrated/disappointed when she doesn't do well. I'm often frustrated with her choices of singles, DVD concert quality, etc. I will always root for her.

I wish her well.

She's a cunt.

[quote]She's a cunt and I can't stop posting about her.

What a nice post, r114.

Guys, the other thread filled up so quick with all the interest in Madonna's new song....too bad that isn't translating to sales or streams.

Anyways, since it's full I will update this thread with this banger's chart performance so far....currently sitting pretty at 108 on the itunes chart. Don't forget, this song was released 4/17, just a mere 5 days ago.

I thought guys were flocking into clubs just to hear the song. All the way to #1!

Get on with the times, the ITunes is not an accurate reflection of the true success of a song. Not that I think Madonna is smashing it with her lazy cha cha cha lesson but people in forums no longer use that chart to measure out success or failure.

for r121 - "medellin" peaked at 107 on most streamed on spotify, since then it is not in the top 200. The song also has 60k dislikes on youtube.

Miss Billie Eilish makes much more interesting and innovative music than Madonna does now. It must suck to be outclassed and done by a 17 year old! She also has that “cool” factor. Madonna must feel rage when she sees young Billie and Ariana Grande our there killing it.

R114 thank you. I don't get why people get so pissed that Madonna doesn't do what they want. My brain loves the beats in this song.

That pussy must be so loose now, poor thing must stick to anal.

and Madonna balked at the notion of any kind of conformity and refused to wear it. When Graham bitched at her about it Madonna told her that if Graham had conformed she'd never be where she was, they reached a détente. Graham gave Madonna the nickname "Madame X" and told her that while she was at her school she wasn't Madonna Ciccone but "Madame X."

r126, Refused to wear what? Deodorant? Underwear?

Looks like 126's post got cut off. Madonna refused to wear the uniform, R127, when she was studying with Martha Graham.

I don't know why she thinks she looks good with dark hair. No one sixty looks good with dark hair.

Flopdonna

Queen of Flop

if this song as any bigger of a flop it would bee Made for Now. It's a good thing Madonna has sold out, record breaking tours to fall back on, unlike some people.

Madonna can't play stadiums like Taylor Swift and Beyonce

Oh really, R133? Then why does Madonna have the highest ever grossing tour by a woman?

MTV Live 8s showing nothing but Madonna videos until tomorrow's debut if the new video. If you can watch these and think anyone did music and video better... You have no taste. That at least one of you listens to Janet says so, anyway, but really... She, pop music, and music videos go together better than any other artist out there.

Please. Janet ripped off her brother, which is the only reason she ever had a career.

Madonna came up from nothing and made it happen and happen big.

Can’t wait to see the new video

DLers:

This is a critical time. We need to support the Queen of Pop. She stood by us in the '80s, '90s. Okay, the cunt abandoned us when she married that homophobe Guy Ritchie. And then when he left her, she came running back to us knowing that we would always $upport her.

Okay. So, she looks like a gremlin. Sounds like shit nowadays. And by the time she goes on tour, she will look like a different person.

But the time is NOW. We need to make Madeline a hit. She is the Queen of Pop! She brought us Vogue! Like a Prayer! Borderline! Frozen! Candy Shop! Iconic songs (okay maybe not the last one - but SHE thinks it's iconic).

Let's support our Queen.

In a way, R138 is right. It's not about the money, it's about the principle of the thing.

I'm the Goddess of Pop.

MARRY ME R138!

R134, She must charge a lot for her shows. Out of the top 10 highest grossing tours she was the only one that was under 100 shows.

Well, dear, she doesn't charge $9.90 like some people we know.

It will be interesting, though, to see how her ticket sales do this time around.

I'm a huge Madonna fan but there's no denying there were some soft sales for Rebel Heart. I saw both shows in Toronto and the second show was nowhere near sold out even the day before the show. I easily got a catwalk ticket which I think was one of those VIP tickets reduced closer to the show.

The biggest surprise was her Australian shows did not sell out despite the fact that she hadn't toured there in over 20 years.

I don’t believe that story about Martha Graham calling her “Madame X” for one single second.

Whoever keep saying Madonna can't play stadiums is a moron. Janet has never played a stadium in her life!!

[quote]The biggest surprise was her Australian shows did not sell out despite the fact that she hadn't toured there in over 20 years.

According to Wikipedia which cites Billboard Boxscore as the article's source, all of the Rebel Heart Australian tour dates sold out including Auckland, Brisbane, Sydney and Melbourne.

That story about Martha Graham calling her Madame X sounds like bullshit.

I'd believe someone who actually got last minute seats over any Billboard stats. Some artists have it in their contracts that there will be no empty seats- so tickets are given away.

R149 = Lady Gaga

Janet Jackson can't even give tickets away, that's why she has to support non sold out venues. . . if they are ever reported at all

With all the Madonna hate on Datalounge, I'm sorry r149 but I gotta side with 147 and Wikipedia. And if Madonna ever "gave away" free, unsold tickets to avoid having empty seats, it would be EVERYWHERE. There'd be stuff about it in the press. Madonna may not be able to sell records like she used to but for a woman over fifty she can sure as hell sell some concert tickets. The Madame X tour may not do as well as tours in the past but I suspect it will do respectably, especially for a sixty year old broad.

I moved to new york with only fifty dollars in my pocket... madonna myth My brother already lived there - madonna truth

R153 Wrong, moved there as a teenager and he was younger than her, so no. If you are interested, read one of her unauthorized biographies.

Or there are some good documentaries on youtube: Madonna Driven, and Naked Ambition just to name a couple.

I never bought that Madonna had $35 in her pocket. I'm sure her father helped her out a bit.

The hard truth is that Madge is a legacy artist. Her catalog and past hits are all she has going for her. Kids today don’t even know who she is or why she is famous. All of these desperate attempts to be relevant are just that, desperate.

She might have a one album comeback like Tony Bennett or Eric Clapton did in the 90s, but it would have to be a great album, not the shit she’s been putting out there for the last 10 years or so. Best advice for her would be to embrace her status, keep touring, and put out an occasional single and album that are quality and keep her name out there.

I don’t like Madonna. I do like Mariah Carey. However, I would tell both of them the same thing I just told you.

[quote]Kids today don’t even know who she is or why she is famous.

I don't think this is necessarily true. I'm forty-one and my sister is forty-eight. Her nineteen year old daughter who's at Tulane knows exactly who Madonna is and so do all of her friends. In fact, my niece likes Medellin better than I do. Now, that's not to say they're all streaming her music 24/7 but they are most definitely aware of who she is. And some of them, not all of them, but some of them, especially the females, are into Madonna precisely because she continues at sixty to do what she wants, wear what she wants and say what she wants--behavior that is usually reserved for men.

R152, honey you know nothing about the business.

wow this video is horrendous. She is wearing a fucking eye patch through the whole thing. She looks like she's about 70 years old. It's not even trending on youtube.

Medellin has sky rocketed back to 117 on the itunes chart. How well will it do on the Billboard hot 100?

Is the eye patch a nod to the lead singer of 80s band Dead or Alive?

Radio will not play this shit

The song stinks worse than her pussy.

Madame X. She's a this... She's a that... She's a whore. From my vantage it's "whores all the way down"

Play The Hollywood Bowl Madame X.

R157 tell that to Tom Holland’s brother lol “who’s Madonna?”

I'm R114 and it ought to be pretty clear that I'm a Madonna fan. But, damn, I just watched the video for this song, and although I really like the song, the video is . . . not so hot. The words "cringe worthy" are absurdly overused on Datalounge, but I gotta confess that I think they may apply here. I don't like that stupid grill that Madonna insists on wearing and wish that she'd gone an entirely different direction with the video. Twenty-five year old Maluma looks ridiculously sexy in it and Madonna, regardless of her sixty years, just doesn't look her best. She gained weight and just isn't styled well, so the notion that Maluma is going to head off to Medellin with her is far fetched. The whole video is too long and there's too much talking (praying) in the beginning. I personally think it's far and away her worst video to date, but strangely enough the You Tube comments are mostly VERY positive.

I feel sad now.

I'm with you r167 although I disagree it's her worst video. But it's her worst lead video of a campaign and she looks... weird in the video. They try to hard with all the filters and blasting her with light to make her look younger.

Maluma is hot as hell though. He looks gorgeous and brings the only spark to the video. And he does it all clothed!

Best video ever

Well, perhaps I can make you feel a tiny bit better R168. I work in video production and can tell you that from a professional standpoint it's a really, really, really beautifully produced and shot video. The color saturations are astonishing. No, I'm not fond of Madonna's diamond grillz and she's absolutely packed on some pounds and can't move like she used to, but this is one of the better videos I've seen in a while. Despite Madonna sucking on Maluma's big toe. I don't care for the eye patch and Madonna should have lost about 25 to 30 pounds before shooting this, but GOTdamn, who's looking at Madonna when smoking hot Maluma is there.

Jesus God, she looks horrific. I know this is a go-to joke for plastic surgery victims, but Madonna absolutely looks like Jocelyne Wildenstein.

I liked her in the dance studio scenes. She looked ridiculous in the bedroom and party scenes. And she should have worn a pantsuit instead of that wedding dress and hat.

I think it’s the best lead single for an album she’s put out in a while.

Madonna has always been so rhythmless. Can’t dance or move. That’s why I prefer Janet.

LMFAO R174. The last thing Madonna could ever be called is rhythmless. She went to U of M of a goddam dance scholarship for fuck's sake and studied with Martha Graham. Janet Fat Ass Jackson dances like she studied with the tribes of New Guinea while on a National Geographic tour.

I agree with R174. It's a fun song. She has nothing to prove anymore. The video is awful though. Its a light beachy song and the video should've reflected that.

Ooops I meant I agree with R173, not the ridiculous troll at R174.

It's not a bad song but I don't think it's lead single material.

She's got a gut! She looks fat for Madonna. That bow or wrap or whatever it is around her waist when she's the dance instructor doesn't hide it. The camera obviously tries to cut away anytime her pregnant gut is in view but it's clear she's A LOT bigger. They should have just shot the whole thing in the bed. She looks beautiful in the blue dress with the hot latin dude.

Her last act is starting off so tragically. Her legacy as a trail blazer, who despite little natural talent, built an empire and changed society would allow a female singer to say, do, or be, is about to be forgotten. Instead, we will remember her vain attempts to compete with 20 year old singers, be sexy by sucking toes and fingers of guys/girls who don’t even know who she is, and her terribly bad plastic surgery. Her narcism will be her downfall.

R175, she dances white.

In her heyday she could've been a Solid Gold dancer but she's no Darcel

R138, Madonna did all the gay stuff on stage and in her music videos to shock people starting in the 80's.The extent she was expressing herself in her career was very shocking because it taboo.She has always been a very shrewd business woman and she knew that shocking people and being edgy sold. She knew how to get people to talk about her A LOT, the talk being good or bad didn't matter because at least people were talking. Once M used her lesbo shtick she dumped it and moved on to something else. She wasn't trying to make changes of any kind in society. Her goal was to be a major, major star, and to be extremely wealthy.She was driven at all costs. She used people and dumped them once she couldn't benefit in any way from them. Now she is worth 1 billion dollars ,and she is known world wide. Her longevity in her career is incredible by her savvy mindset.

“Her legacy as a trail blazer, who despite little natural talent, built an empire and changed society would allow a female singer to say, do, or be, is about to be forgotten. ”

Madonna didn’t “change society”, not even a bit.

The video is beautifully done and she looks great. Maybe it’s the lighting, the camera angles, the makeup, the clothes... whatever, it doesn’t matter. The fact is it’s a great video and the character she plays looks amazing. She does not look fat and she looks much younger than 60.

The song is good, and I’d say it’s starting a new genre. There are definitely Latin/reggaeton influences, but it’s not like anything else out there.

I actually like the video! She is heavier though and her dancing isn't as effortless as it once was. I really HATE the eye patch and I agree with the others about that ridiculous thing on her teeth, whatever it's called. The color in the video is so bright. I wonder if that's really Madge riding the horse and rolling on the ground with the horse?

I do appreciate the fact that the song isn’t a carbon copy of everything on the radio right now. One thing that’s drastically hurt Madge’s credibility in the past ten years or so is going from trend setter to trend chaser. This song, it seems, is different. She’s not trying to be Ariana Grande. She didn’t ask whatever producer was hot two years ago to produce it. I think she’s finally realized at this point radio isn’t going to play her songs so she might as well just make music that makes sense to her.

[quote]She dances white.

And beautifully so! I'd rather watch Madonna dance any day of the week than Beyonce. I cannot stand to watch Beyonce dance! She looks so gross and ghetto. Watching Beyonce dance is like watching some slutty tribal mating ceremony on National Geographic.

Yesterday I was in Bay City, Michigan, which is Madonna's birthplace, and ran across a new little cheese shop that--you see where I'm going with this--yes, they had Red Dragon cheese. And you could have as much as you wanted.

Is Maluma gay? He’s incredibly hot

[quote]The last thing Madonna could ever be called is rhythmless. She went to U of M of a goddam dance scholarship for fuck's sake and studied with Martha Graham.

Honey, she bombed out. She was a terrible dancer and was told to go. Even she said this. She was crap. She went on to music because she couldn't make it as a professional dancer.

She looks like Jigsaw from "Saw" now.

lmao.

....

Maluma is hot. The video makes the song a tiny bit better.

R183 She’s actually done a lot for the gay community especially for Aids research. She had a lot of friends who died and she poured hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep them alive at one point sending Sean Penn to Mexico and France looking for a cure. Im not saying she’s a bitch especially for business but the ones she loves she truly loves.

[quote]Honey, she bombed out.

Yeah, I'm not quite sure that her bank account and status as an icon--whether you like her or not--qualifies as "bombed out." Plus, even back then she was still good enough to get the scholarship and to get into Martha Graham's school. What famous, well respected dance instructors did Gaga study with? What about Beyonce?

Yeah, that's what I thought.

The extent of Madonna's dance training

These two are DANCERS... Madonna has never impressed me.

Well Bruce Springsteen just announced that he will be releasing his first new album in 5 years on the same date Madame X comes out. Madonna will again miss the top spot.

Even Britney Spears could teach her a thing or two that Martha Graham apparently couldn’t.

Britney Spears is a fantastic dancer. R201

Britney Spears was a cheerleader at best.

A lot of people think Britney’s tours pre 2007 tours were much bigger spectacles than Madonnas. I saw her during Onux hotel and I had never seen an entertainer hold the crowds interest like that.

Britney Spears was the best entertainer during her peak.

And she is a fantastic dancer. People love to hate her for no reason.

[QUOTE]A lot of people think Britney’s tours pre 2007 tours were much bigger spectacles than Madonnas. I saw her during Onux hotel and I had never seen an entertainer hold the crowds interest like that.

Hoo Wee, that made me laugh! I'm fine with Britney but, no. . . just no.

[quote]People love to hate her for no reason.

She's white trash Republican. That's more than sufficient reason.

In the opening shot where she's praying, she looks like Khloe Kardashian. Maluma is hot. Madonna is not. Her worst look is the black stringy hair. I almost screamed when she came toward the camera with her mouth open with those big, red, rubber lips.

Did Madonna nick Lourdes' college modern dance routine during the part where Madonna rolled around in the dirt with the white horse circling her?

R206 she can’t even vote. And she’s a sweetheart.

Maluma is a gorgeous Mexican man.

[quote] Maluma is a GAY Mexican man.

Fixed it for you, R209

The eye patch in one scene could be cute, but an eye patch in every scene makes me think that Madame X had some bad botox around one eye just before the shoot. Oops.

Britney is a much better dancer and singer than Madonna.

Anyone who questions Madonna's dancing has no standards. Mentioning Floppita, Paula and Britney? That's funny. Paula is obviously the more talented of the 3 and those other 2 have one 'style'. Zero versatility. I mean it's funny actually having to debate this. Look at "Erotica" from The Confessions Tour. "Vogue" from The Re-invention Tour. "Girl Gone Wild" from MDNA Tour, "Express Yourself" from Blond Ambition. None of those fools you mentioned could pull ANY of those off. Way too outside of their boring comfort zone. And this is coming from someone who hates the new song.

"she's not unbelievably talented, she's not beautiful...."

R211 You can have your very own eyepatch for $15 on Madonna's website

[quote]Anyone who questions Madonna's dancing has no standards. Mentioning Floppita, Paula and Britney? That's funny. Paula is obviously the more talented of the 3 and those other 2 have one 'style'. Zero versatility. I mean it's funny actually having to debate this. Look at "Erotica" from The Confessions Tour. "Vogue" from The Re-invention Tour. "Girl Gone Wild" from MDNA Tour, "Express Yourself" from Blond Ambition. None of those fools you mentioned could pull ANY of those off. Way too outside of their boring comfort zone. And this is coming from someone who hates the new song.

THANK YOU!

Can you imagine fat ass Janet Jackson trying to do Madge's upside down Vogue yoga pose from the Reinvention Tour? Or any of the other dance moves you mentioned? Never in a million years.

She dances like a white woman of her age. She’s ok I guess but she’s not exactly energetic on stage and rarely stays in sync with her backup dancers. Most of the time they’re doing all the work. But rhythm is definitely something she’s always lacked but then again she’s a white woman who trained in ballet.

Madonna dance moves are likely stolen from a Jazzercise video

"She dances like a white woman*

Well, that wasn't racist at all, was it?

I think r161 might be on to something. The eye-patch, the grotesque cutlet cheeks & lips - this is all just an homage to Pete Burns, isn't it?

In her video her movements look so restricted.

At this point would it be safe to say Cher's record of being oldest diva to have a #1 on hot 100 is still safe? (she was 52 when Believe made it to the top)

Lol even "Frozen" on Sticky & Sweet Round 2...at age 50...murders all those others. And yes, she kept up with her dancers. Hell, "Give It To Me" crushes them. I mean, it's really endless. But, ya, let's just resort to blatant racism to try and belittle her talent. Some of you are really simply bad people.

Cher's Believe was not only #1, it was the single of the year beating out Celine for My Heart Will. Go On.

[quote] Cher's Believe was not only #1, it was the single of the year beating out Celine for My Heart Will. Go On.

I would be surprised if it hadn't, since My Heart Will Go On was from late 1997 and Believe was released more than a year later, in early 1999 and they charted in two completely different year end tallies.

Confessions was not a "Believe" moment. Madonna was still popular and coming off her most successful tour to date. "Hung Up" was a big enough hit after the commercial failure of "American Life". It closed the Confessions Tour and hasn't been much of a moment on any tour since. In fact, she murdered it on Sticky &Sweet and MDNA. It surely didn't surpass staples like Vogue, Like a Prayer, Music, etc.

She could have shaved at least.

Song bombed in the UK. #87.

[quote]Well, that wasn't racist at all, was it?

No, it wasn't. Reverse racism isn't a thing.

Madonna sitting strong at 113 on the itunes chart

Baby Jane Ciccone.

[quote] No, it wasn't. Reverse racism isn't a thing.

Can’t we even get along on a Madonna thread?

Someone buy the old crone a dildo.

Who needs a dildo when you're rich enough to get a smokin' hot twenty-five year old Maluma?

Provided Maluma enjoys pusswoi!

And provided he enjoys granny pussy!

So the single flopped? Low sales it seems.

All the autotune on earth can't help this cunt.

At least in the US doesn't seem like folks are feeling the cha cha cha.

181 on itunes, time to stick a fork in this one

Flopdonna wrongly banked on Maluma.

Did Maluma need to use bleach to remove that "old lady smell" from his toe or something stronger?

Love it