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NOTRE DAME SEPT ON FIRE!

The Seven are displeased.

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by Anonymousreply 397May 7, 2019 7:46 PM

Is the High Sparrow still in the building?

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by Anonymousreply 1April 15, 2019 5:16 PM

Who?

by Anonymousreply 2April 15, 2019 5:17 PM

Was it one of the yellow jackets? Is Macron ok?

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by Anonymousreply 3April 15, 2019 5:18 PM

Looks like the finale of season 6.

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by Anonymousreply 4April 15, 2019 5:20 PM

Whoops.

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by Anonymousreply 5April 15, 2019 5:21 PM

They have to stop with the candles. There are perfectly good LED candles now, with Disney technology.

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by Anonymousreply 6April 15, 2019 5:22 PM

Live coverage streaming.

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by Anonymousreply 7April 15, 2019 5:23 PM

Twitter's official live coverage.

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by Anonymousreply 8April 15, 2019 5:24 PM

At least it's not spreading to other buildings. So many candles, kind of inevitable.

by Anonymousreply 9April 15, 2019 5:25 PM
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by Anonymousreply 10April 15, 2019 5:29 PM

Revenge for the Crusades?

by Anonymousreply 11April 15, 2019 5:30 PM

Please, don't let it be...?

by Anonymousreply 12April 15, 2019 5:32 PM

Hold me, David!

by Anonymousreply 13April 15, 2019 5:33 PM

Images dramatiques. Looks like a section where they are renovating. Perhaps a careless worker?

by Anonymousreply 14April 15, 2019 5:36 PM

Paris can't catch a break these days.

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by Anonymousreply 15April 15, 2019 5:36 PM

Mama’s mussy is moist...with tears.

by Anonymousreply 16April 15, 2019 5:38 PM

Another live stream. Shit, how do you even begin to extinguish this?!

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by Anonymousreply 17April 15, 2019 5:40 PM

Terrorism?

by Anonymousreply 18April 15, 2019 5:40 PM

OP, please learn DL etiquette before starting a +++ Breaking +++ thread.

by Anonymousreply 19April 15, 2019 5:40 PM

All those people, just looking on in disbelief.

by Anonymousreply 20April 15, 2019 5:42 PM

Part of it just collapsed.

by Anonymousreply 21April 15, 2019 5:42 PM

It looks to me like the fire is dying down?

by Anonymousreply 22April 15, 2019 5:43 PM

God, it's going to be so expensive to repair. LVMH and Kering are funding a lot of historical restorations. Maybe they'll team up for this one.

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by Anonymousreply 23April 15, 2019 5:45 PM

Jokes aside, this is heartbreaking.

by Anonymousreply 24April 15, 2019 5:46 PM

Dear fucking God. Donnie just Tweeted advice about how they should deal with it.

Donald J. Trump ‏ Verified account

@realDonaldTrump 6m6 minutes ago

So horrible to watch the massive fire at Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris. Perhaps flying water tankers could be used to put it out. Must act quickly!

by Anonymousreply 25April 15, 2019 5:46 PM

Has anyone visited Fondation Louis Vuitton?

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by Anonymousreply 26April 15, 2019 5:47 PM

It’s going to collapse, isn’t it? Sad.

by Anonymousreply 27April 15, 2019 5:47 PM

A priest and an altar boy knocked over a candle whilst engaging in vigorous coitus (now interruptus).

by Anonymousreply 28April 15, 2019 5:47 PM

Fondazione Prada does nice work, too, and not just in Italy.

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by Anonymousreply 29April 15, 2019 5:48 PM

I can't believe the turd just tweeted that out.

by Anonymousreply 30April 15, 2019 5:48 PM

Those "flying water tankers" drop the water with such force that it would collapse the cathedral instantly. And you can't do that shit on just one building in a crowded city, Jesus!

by Anonymousreply 31April 15, 2019 5:50 PM

It collapsed, but the people who are calling in are trying to act like this is 9/11.

by Anonymousreply 32April 15, 2019 5:51 PM

Damn, I can't believe the Notre Dame cathedral is no more.

by Anonymousreply 33April 15, 2019 5:52 PM

This is a real tragedy. We can only hope that it can be restored/rebuilt as successfully as Windsor castle was after the fire in the nineties.

by Anonymousreply 34April 15, 2019 5:52 PM

The fire department has said they are working on a large operation to put the fire out, but I've only seen one photo of firefighters anywhere near there. It's so crowded, I don't know how they could get to it in time.

by Anonymousreply 35April 15, 2019 5:52 PM

French guys are so cute when they're boyish.

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by Anonymousreply 36April 15, 2019 5:53 PM

#NotreDame: 'The roof has entirely collapsed, there are flames coming out the back of the cathedral as if it was a torch'

@charli, Journalist at France 24, at the scene of the fire.

by Anonymousreply 37April 15, 2019 5:53 PM

Who is going to pay for the reconstruction? The Catholic Church has exclusive rights to use the church for religious uses, however the French state actually owns it under a 1905 law.

by Anonymousreply 38April 15, 2019 5:53 PM

What can you expect from France who elects people like Bridget MAcron as president

by Anonymousreply 39April 15, 2019 5:54 PM

This actually makes me incredibly sad. I'm seeing a poster saying its collapsed, I hope they are incorrect.

by Anonymousreply 40April 15, 2019 5:54 PM

Who’s the guy at R36?

by Anonymousreply 41April 15, 2019 5:55 PM

r40, the spire and roof has collapsed.

by Anonymousreply 42April 15, 2019 5:55 PM

The spire has collapsed now, as has part of the roof.

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by Anonymousreply 43April 15, 2019 5:56 PM

Sacre feu!

(Sorry. I am as sad and shocked as many are by the fire.)

by Anonymousreply 44April 15, 2019 5:56 PM

Was it a bimm?

by Anonymousreply 45April 15, 2019 5:56 PM

Quasimodo is trending on Twitter

by Anonymousreply 46April 15, 2019 5:56 PM

Huge fucking inferno. Reminds me of watchng the towers burn on 9/11. Awful.

by Anonymousreply 47April 15, 2019 5:57 PM

R41, dunno, Google Images isn't helping.

by Anonymousreply 48April 15, 2019 5:57 PM

If it’s arson, I hope they get medieval on the perp.

I don’t care what religion you are, even if you’re an atheist it has historical value.

by Anonymousreply 49April 15, 2019 5:57 PM

Somebody did something in Paris today.

by Anonymousreply 50April 15, 2019 5:58 PM

All that beautiful art work, priceless altar pieces and statues. So sad...

by Anonymousreply 51April 15, 2019 5:58 PM

Very sad.

by Anonymousreply 52April 15, 2019 5:58 PM

Video of the spire falling

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by Anonymousreply 53April 15, 2019 5:59 PM

I seem to recall them moving the statuary from the altar area just a few weeks ago.

by Anonymousreply 54April 15, 2019 5:59 PM

The moment the spire fell.

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by Anonymousreply 55April 15, 2019 6:00 PM

From Wikipedia regarding the spire:

"The rooster at the summit of the spire contains three relics; a tiny piece of the Crown of Thorns, located in the treasury of the Cathedral; and relics of Denis and Saint Genevieve, patron saints of Paris. They were placed there in 1935 by the Archibishop Verdier, to protect the congregation from lightning or other harm."

Guess that didn't work.

by Anonymousreply 56April 15, 2019 6:02 PM

It spread way too fast for it to be an accident. Got to be arson for it to be fully engulfed that quickly.

by Anonymousreply 57April 15, 2019 6:02 PM

Paris has been destroying itself for years and completely destroying its great heritage. The Parisians deserve this.

by Anonymousreply 58April 15, 2019 6:04 PM

I have to admit my first thought was that it must be deliberate. There's been so much unrest in Paris in recent years, due to Islamic terrorists and the yellow shirts.

by Anonymousreply 59April 15, 2019 6:04 PM

I see scaffolding in the area between the spire and the twin square towers that form the entry -- a renovation accident?

by Anonymousreply 60April 15, 2019 6:05 PM

Hmmm --

@ABC7

#BREAKING Reported explosion at the Port of Los Angeles. Police and fire crews on scene.

by Anonymousreply 61April 15, 2019 6:05 PM

Ffs how much publicity do they need for the final season of GoT?

by Anonymousreply 62April 15, 2019 6:05 PM

Good lord.

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by Anonymousreply 63April 15, 2019 6:06 PM

R56 It was Hitler they needed protecting from.

by Anonymousreply 64April 15, 2019 6:06 PM

Horrible. I was just recently in Paris and also went to see ND but just from the outside. Can’t believe this is happening. I can’t imagine what locals are feeling. R58 No they don’t.

by Anonymousreply 65April 15, 2019 6:07 PM

MSNBC: Paris police consider the fire accidental.

by Anonymousreply 66April 15, 2019 6:07 PM

R42 r43 Oh no! I adore European architecture and was hoping the reports of collapse were false. Hopefully they can manage some sort of reconstruction. If it was arson, this was fucking despicable.

by Anonymousreply 67April 15, 2019 6:07 PM

R50: Die in a grease fire, you trash.

by Anonymousreply 68April 15, 2019 6:08 PM

It's crazy that in this day and age, all the firefighters can do is stand by and watch it burn.

by Anonymousreply 69April 15, 2019 6:09 PM

r66 Yeah, so a renovation-related accident, then. The worker(s) must have called the fire department immediately. Too bad it was too big to subdue.

by Anonymousreply 70April 15, 2019 6:10 PM

I hope the evacuation was successful. The fire is massive.

by Anonymousreply 71April 15, 2019 6:10 PM

Macron going on-scene. Watch your cute little ass, Manu!

by Anonymousreply 72April 15, 2019 6:12 PM

R69, well according to Donald Dumb, they should throw some flying water tanks on the building and that might do.

Donald showing off his all-encompassing knowledge again.

by Anonymousreply 73April 15, 2019 6:13 PM

And Muslim is a religion of piece.

by Anonymousreply 74April 15, 2019 6:13 PM

R66 It is much too early for authorities to be considering it accidental or otherwise. You can't investigate while the building is still burning. Also, it is the fire authorities that determine the cause of fires not the police.

by Anonymousreply 75April 15, 2019 6:14 PM

Tell it to MSNBC, R75. Just passing along what they're reporting.

by Anonymousreply 76April 15, 2019 6:15 PM

I hope there were birds living in the crooks of the cathedral who died as a result of this. Is it bird nesting season? Baby birds, etc. Same with other animals.

by Anonymousreply 77April 15, 2019 6:17 PM

They're probably going on information from an emergency call, like someone else said earlier in the thread.

by Anonymousreply 78April 15, 2019 6:17 PM

It will be like Fenice in Venice. Even if they rebuild it it will not be Notre Dame.

This cathedral has been using candles for how long? This has to be arson.

Just like Venice arson to hide behind schedule work.

by Anonymousreply 79April 15, 2019 6:17 PM

Anyone have the name of the model at R36? Cute Frenchman.

by Anonymousreply 80April 15, 2019 6:17 PM

R76 Well that just reinforces my feelings about MSNBC's quality of journalism.

by Anonymousreply 81April 15, 2019 6:18 PM

I'm sure all the art was digitally documented and preserved in that way. The building was photographed etc. from every angle, so it can be rebuilt.

by Anonymousreply 82April 15, 2019 6:18 PM

Maybe they should build an interfaith center there instead of rebuilding the cathedral!

Kidding.

by Anonymousreply 83April 15, 2019 6:19 PM

Ew, R36 is not cute.

by Anonymousreply 84April 15, 2019 6:19 PM

According to what was just reported on CBS, French authorities are saying that the entire building is in flames now.

by Anonymousreply 85April 15, 2019 6:19 PM

R84, then show me a cute Frenchman. He's so cute ... ?

by Anonymousreply 86April 15, 2019 6:20 PM

The sky was so blue that day...

by Anonymousreply 87April 15, 2019 6:20 PM

Ta gueule! R58

by Anonymousreply 88April 15, 2019 6:20 PM

Oh yeah, R85. Are you away from a video stream? It's destroyed.

by Anonymousreply 89April 15, 2019 6:20 PM

Apparently the fire broke out around about the time the cathedral was closing. That makes me think it's less likely to be the result of terrorism. Terrorists would want to attack at a time when as many people as possible were in the building.

by Anonymousreply 90April 15, 2019 6:20 PM

R58, that's kind of harsh.

by Anonymousreply 91April 15, 2019 6:20 PM

Thank God the Tour Montparnasse and La Defense are still standing!

by Anonymousreply 92April 15, 2019 6:21 PM

R84, please post a pic of a cute French guy. I'm seriously curious what's cute to you. TIA. Not being sarcastic or aggressive -- just genuinely curious. That guy's the quintessential French boy type.

by Anonymousreply 93April 15, 2019 6:21 PM

R74 big, juicy, cut pieces?

by Anonymousreply 94April 15, 2019 6:21 PM

r75 It's not too early if the workers themselves called the fire department and told them what went wrong.

by Anonymousreply 95April 15, 2019 6:21 PM

Closing time is packed, R90.

by Anonymousreply 96April 15, 2019 6:22 PM

[quote]I hope there were birds living in the crooks of the cathedral who died as a result of this. Is it bird nesting season? Baby birds, etc. Same with other animals.

Why would you even post this? We don't care that you want baby birds to burn to death, weirdo.

by Anonymousreply 97April 15, 2019 6:22 PM

R86 R93 French-Brazilian Orlando Baronne

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by Anonymousreply 98April 15, 2019 6:22 PM

R81: You are DESPERATE for this to be arson, aren't you?

R74: OH, DEAR. OH, DEAR. OH! DEAR!

by Anonymousreply 99April 15, 2019 6:23 PM

What do Bardot and Delon have to say about this?

by Anonymousreply 100April 15, 2019 6:23 PM

Sorry, R97, I meant "weren't baby birds" -- jesus, total typo - who'd want baby bird to burn to death. Sorry about the typo.

by Anonymousreply 101April 15, 2019 6:23 PM

It's not arson, probably. It was a fire on a work site. Or candles.

by Anonymousreply 102April 15, 2019 6:24 PM

[quote]jesus, total typo - who'd want baby bird to burn to death

Okay. We just have a lot of trolls on these threads and it's not really easy to tell who is who on DL anymore.

by Anonymousreply 103April 15, 2019 6:25 PM

R95 It is still too early because even if workers called it in that isn't proof of an accident. There was a fire near me where a worker called it in as an accident, after the fire officials did their investigation it was determined that the worker set the fire deliberately, then called it in as an accident to try and cover his tracks. So at this point it is nothing more than speculation.

by Anonymousreply 104April 15, 2019 6:26 PM

It's going to cost billions to restore this. The EU will pour tons of money into it. LVMH better step up.

R103, yeah, seriously I wish I could delete R77, because I don't want anyone to think that it's ok to want that. I'm vegan and all about animal rights (INFP here). I hope people see my reply at R101.

by Anonymousreply 105April 15, 2019 6:26 PM

@celinecipolla

Notre Dame de Paris:

- 200 ans pour être construite

- 700 ans d’existence

- 5 minutes pour prendre feu

Tout ne tiens qu’à un fil

by Anonymousreply 106April 15, 2019 6:28 PM

I can't imagine being this close to those flames.

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by Anonymousreply 107April 15, 2019 6:28 PM

R101 I figured you meant "I hope there weren't ". That's absolutely heartbreaking if they were there , on top of this already tragic destruction.

by Anonymousreply 108April 15, 2019 6:29 PM

R108, absolutely. Absolutely the worst typo I've ever made on DL. Please see R105.

by Anonymousreply 109April 15, 2019 6:31 PM

It is highly possible it cannot be restored, R105, certainly you can not replicate work centuries old; it’s not the same thing.

Tragic. A global cultural loss. Like when Isis purposefully destroyed the Gates of Palmyra.

by Anonymousreply 110April 15, 2019 6:31 PM

Stop with the candle shit. God knows how many candles have been lit here in 700 years.

Even if everything is recreated using digital technology it is nothing more than a counterfeit and therefore worth nothing more than the material it took to recreate it.

by Anonymousreply 111April 15, 2019 6:33 PM

I hope Google scanned the entire place. Microsoft was the first to do that with art, when they came out with those CD-ROMs with highly detailed scanned of famous works.

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by Anonymousreply 112April 15, 2019 6:33 PM

[quote]Notre Dame spokesman Andre Finot tells French media the entire wooden interior of the 12th-century landmark is burning and likely to be destroyed: 'Nothing will remain from the frame.'

[quote]“Everything is burning. The framework, which dates from the 19th century on one side and the 13th century on the other, there will be nothing left." ~ Andre Finot, spokesperson for Notre Dame Cathedral

by Anonymousreply 113April 15, 2019 6:34 PM

France...

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by Anonymousreply 114April 15, 2019 6:35 PM

Windsor Castle had a major fire in 1992 and they were able to do a full restoration. The fires look so similar.

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by Anonymousreply 115April 15, 2019 6:36 PM

Good Lord, this is supposed to be Holy Week.

by Anonymousreply 116April 15, 2019 6:36 PM

Devastating. I was in London this summer and thought about jumping over to Paris but figured "Next Time."

I've never been a religious person, but as a piece of history and architecture...Fuck.

by Anonymousreply 117April 15, 2019 6:38 PM

French male models chatting. One's dressed like a whore.

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by Anonymousreply 118April 15, 2019 6:38 PM

Catholics have got to be freaking out right now, R116.

by Anonymousreply 119April 15, 2019 6:38 PM

I had to Google "holy week."

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by Anonymousreply 120April 15, 2019 6:39 PM

Is Olivia DeHavilland in danger?!?

by Anonymousreply 121April 15, 2019 6:39 PM

God's revenge on the French for turning away from Catholicism, the accepting of a tsunami of anti Christian pagans and Jerry Lewis.

by Anonymousreply 122April 15, 2019 6:40 PM

How many paintings were in the church?

by Anonymousreply 123April 15, 2019 6:40 PM

Trump said Paris isn't Paris anymore. Now he's slightly right.

by Anonymousreply 124April 15, 2019 6:40 PM

R119, more artists and architects are weeping.

by Anonymousreply 125April 15, 2019 6:40 PM

Suzette Jour a-t-elle fait une déclaration?

by Anonymousreply 126April 15, 2019 6:40 PM

NBC News stream.

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by Anonymousreply 127April 15, 2019 6:41 PM

Horrible! As a Roman Catholic, it’s breaking my heart.

by Anonymousreply 128April 15, 2019 6:42 PM

Sky News also reported it as a construction accident and said that the wood interior just acted like massive fuel.

by Anonymousreply 129April 15, 2019 6:42 PM

Fucking evil if intentional. Fucking bastards. Disgusting.

by Anonymousreply 130April 15, 2019 6:42 PM

Diana avenged!

by Anonymousreply 131April 15, 2019 6:42 PM

Construction started in 1160. Jeeze.

by Anonymousreply 132April 15, 2019 6:43 PM

It’s odd that this is occurring on Holy Week.

by Anonymousreply 133April 15, 2019 6:43 PM

Imagine being the worker responsible for this.

by Anonymousreply 134April 15, 2019 6:43 PM

A witness describes it as "the loss of Christianity in Europe."

by Anonymousreply 135April 15, 2019 6:43 PM

Heartbreaking. If people need a safe place to live that’s fine but there seems to be something in a certain group that doesn’t allow them to be flexible. They have to conquer. They are “helping us” by doing this. 😏

They just said the hull of the Cathedral has burned. They are trying to get what art they can.

I’m so glad I saw Paris when I did. Before the....problems.

by Anonymousreply 136April 15, 2019 6:43 PM

[quote]How many paintings were in the church?

Nineteen, Rose.

by Anonymousreply 137April 15, 2019 6:44 PM

R118 Eww, cigarettes. Why the fuck do these models smoke so much?

by Anonymousreply 138April 15, 2019 6:45 PM

Sky news also said SOME of the art work was removed because of the construction. That's SOME not ALL.

by Anonymousreply 139April 15, 2019 6:46 PM

R136, do you think the chance is high that it was what you're implying? If so - holy fuck.

by Anonymousreply 140April 15, 2019 6:46 PM

[quote]It’s odd that this is occurring on Holy Week.

It’s biblical. Or deMillian, depending which side your bread is buttered on.

by Anonymousreply 141April 15, 2019 6:46 PM

R101, I genuinely thought for a moment there that we had an anti-baby bird troll on DL

by Anonymousreply 142April 15, 2019 6:46 PM

I want to see Jordan Levine top the model at R36.

by Anonymousreply 143April 15, 2019 6:46 PM

I believe it’s probably terrorism. Holy Week.

by Anonymousreply 144April 15, 2019 6:46 PM

If it were terrorism, wouldn't they have started the fire in a more public way? Or at the very least, claimed credit by now? The whole point of terrorism is attention, ladies.

by Anonymousreply 145April 15, 2019 6:48 PM

Sky News is saying at least one ofmthe famous stained glass windows is intact. Possibly a second. But one was completely destroyed. The famous bells in the towers appear to be fine at the moment.

by Anonymousreply 146April 15, 2019 6:49 PM

R142, yeah, I feel bad about that typo. I really am sorry. If "baby bird" is in a sentence, it's 99.9999% in reference to love for them, so there's at least that, so people are very likely to realize it's a typo. I remember every article I've read about baby birds being hurt by tree trimming (falling out of their nests while their mothers fly above and squawk in helpless panic), etc. It's awful.

by Anonymousreply 147April 15, 2019 6:49 PM

If someone actually did this intentionally, how could someone do something like that? Fucking crazy. It's everyone's cultural heritage. Why the fuck.... I have chills at the thought that it was intentional. Fuck.

by Anonymousreply 148April 15, 2019 6:50 PM

Apparently it started where then work was being done, r148.

by Anonymousreply 149April 15, 2019 6:51 PM

That’s a shame ™

by Anonymousreply 150April 15, 2019 6:51 PM

😩 Je Suis Notre Dame !

by Anonymousreply 151April 15, 2019 6:52 PM

That makes sense. I'm sure it was an accident.

by Anonymousreply 152April 15, 2019 6:52 PM

R148 .. some people are awful.

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by Anonymousreply 153April 15, 2019 6:53 PM

Jesus, looks like it just flared up again.

by Anonymousreply 154April 15, 2019 6:53 PM

[quote]Live reports suggest that the fire is starting to be contained. Fire officials say that the renovation work being on the cathedral is being investigated as a possible cause of the blaze.

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by Anonymousreply 155April 15, 2019 6:53 PM

Please leave now, r58.

by Anonymousreply 156April 15, 2019 6:55 PM

R155, sky News has a live stream. It looks like it flared up again and badly. Also looks like the scaffolding is impeding efforts.

by Anonymousreply 157April 15, 2019 6:55 PM

So much misinformation, the roof is the only wooden part of the cathedral, everything else is stone, including the stone vaulted ceiling. The roof can burn, and have no effect on the interior. So far it appears the only thing burning is the roof, there is no evidence the interior is on fire, the vaulting may still be completely intact.

by Anonymousreply 158April 15, 2019 6:57 PM

Some of you are WAY too excited at the possibility this could be terrorism.

by Anonymousreply 159April 15, 2019 6:58 PM

Quel horreur!

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by Anonymousreply 160April 15, 2019 6:59 PM

R159: And they're using emojis to be coy about it....assholes.

by Anonymousreply 161April 15, 2019 7:00 PM

r158, I'm watching a live feed. The interior is very much on fire. There were wooden seats all around. Wooden confessionals. You're the one with the misinformation not Sky News.

by Anonymousreply 162April 15, 2019 7:00 PM

[quote]The roof can burn, and have no effect on the interior.

No, not at all true -- the wooden structure will fall into the rest of the structure and burn wooden fixtures, artwork, pews, all number of flammable things. The stained glass will break and the structure will be compromised from the heat and the strain of collapse of the roof.

by Anonymousreply 163April 15, 2019 7:02 PM

How could they let this happen!?

by Anonymousreply 164April 15, 2019 7:04 PM

Are French male Insta-whores on the scene?

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by Anonymousreply 165April 15, 2019 7:04 PM

This is the end of an era. You can't possibly put out a fire of this magnitude without a major miracle. We can only hope ..............

by Anonymousreply 166April 15, 2019 7:05 PM

Cute French guys on the subway.

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by Anonymousreply 167April 15, 2019 7:05 PM

Yeah, r158, is an asshole. I see the rose Window is still intact although I'm not sure how much heat damage there may be..

on a tangent -- Michelle Obama is there. So at least we have some dignified representation there.

by Anonymousreply 168April 15, 2019 7:05 PM

The French really need to get their shit together.

Fucking hell.

by Anonymousreply 169April 15, 2019 7:06 PM

Wow, looks like the flames are even worse now.

by Anonymousreply 170April 15, 2019 7:07 PM

How soon until we get a name?

by Anonymousreply 171April 15, 2019 7:10 PM

R158 CBS said the roof had collapsed and the interior is engulfed in flames. They mentioned pews and altars burning.

by Anonymousreply 172April 15, 2019 7:11 PM

Actually, it's apparently almost out, per the Guardian live blog:

Emma O’Carroll who works in haut couture in Paris in a nearby fashion studio says that the fire appears to be under control.

It looks like the fire is under control. There are hardly any flames now. People are just wandering around flabbergasted. There are thousands of people on the streets. Police have pushed us back to nearly 1km away.

There are helicopters, a huge crane dousing the flying buttresses with water. There are police on the river, stopping all the bateaux mouche (the tour boats) going by.

It looks like it started at the back around the scaffolding where refurbishment was going on. It is unbelievable, it’s just such a sad day.

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by Anonymousreply 173April 15, 2019 7:11 PM

It's getting darker so you can see the flames much better than in the evening light, simple as that.

by Anonymousreply 174April 15, 2019 7:11 PM

R171: The name is Notre Dame, Rose.

by Anonymousreply 175April 15, 2019 7:12 PM

Well that renovation just got a bit bigger, didn't it.

by Anonymousreply 176April 15, 2019 7:12 PM

Front left tower is burning. That rose window is in peril. Please, no!!!

by Anonymousreply 177April 15, 2019 7:12 PM

April 15th...same day as the Boston Marathon bombing occurred. Coincidence?

by Anonymousreply 178April 15, 2019 7:14 PM

This song seems appropriate for the occasion

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by Anonymousreply 179April 15, 2019 7:14 PM

Weird. NBC stream just showed a bunch of rich old people eating dinner nearby.

by Anonymousreply 180April 15, 2019 7:14 PM

Not much French porn, is there?

by Anonymousreply 181April 15, 2019 7:15 PM

Seriously.......under control?

Emma O'Carroll needs an eye exam.

by Anonymousreply 182April 15, 2019 7:15 PM

R181: TPLF, French spanking porn. They're out of business but you can find their videos on Pornhub. Great cultural learning experience.

by Anonymousreply 183April 15, 2019 7:16 PM

Lincoln also died on April 15th so clearly, it's a massive Freemason conspiracy, R178.

by Anonymousreply 184April 15, 2019 7:17 PM

iPod:

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by Anonymousreply 185April 15, 2019 7:17 PM

Notre Dame spokesperson " Everything is burning. Nothing will remain from the frame."

by Anonymousreply 186April 15, 2019 7:19 PM

Where is God?

by Anonymousreply 187April 15, 2019 7:19 PM

Where did you see that, R186?

by Anonymousreply 188April 15, 2019 7:20 PM

R187 on a cigarette break, Rose

by Anonymousreply 189April 15, 2019 7:21 PM

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by Anonymousreply 190April 15, 2019 7:21 PM

Too bad I'm not in Paris.

by Anonymousreply 191April 15, 2019 7:21 PM

ABC News r188. Message currently posted at the bottom of my TV screen.

by Anonymousreply 192April 15, 2019 7:23 PM

French decathlete - gay friendly.

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by Anonymousreply 193April 15, 2019 7:23 PM

It's been quoted for a while, R188, including in this thread.

by Anonymousreply 194April 15, 2019 7:24 PM
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by Anonymousreply 195April 15, 2019 7:24 PM

What's the French version of Sean Cody?

by Anonymousreply 196April 15, 2019 7:24 PM

@CBSNews

"I think what's so emotional right now is I can hear people in the streets singing. They're singing and praying and watching this billowing fire continue to persist," said @Victoria_WDBJ7, who is staying nearby the Notre Dame

by Anonymousreply 197April 15, 2019 7:26 PM

R193 French De Catholíque ?

by Anonymousreply 198April 15, 2019 7:26 PM

I can't breath!

by Anonymousreply 199April 15, 2019 7:26 PM

Keumgay is the big French porn site.

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by Anonymousreply 200April 15, 2019 7:29 PM

Why is NBC showing Sky News?

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by Anonymousreply 201April 15, 2019 7:30 PM

Sky News said that water Is being aimed at the left tower and that it MAY be as a precaution. So far no fire seen in the left tower but it's inching closer.

And it's NOT under control as peopke have been posting.

by Anonymousreply 202April 15, 2019 7:31 PM

The towers and that Rose Window are still standing. It appears and is being reported that the remainder is gone. Restoration work "has not been ruled out" as a possible cause.

by Anonymousreply 203April 15, 2019 7:33 PM

Isn't Macron giving a speech soon?

by Anonymousreply 204April 15, 2019 7:33 PM

Speech cancelled. He’s on the scene, getting briefed at a police station.

by Anonymousreply 205April 15, 2019 7:37 PM

Terrorism, I really do think so. Particularly if Macron is getting a briefing.

Fuck religion, the root of most terrorism.

by Anonymousreply 206April 15, 2019 7:39 PM

@MitchellReardon

The literal centre of Paris. The #NotreDame is located at kilometre zéro, the point from which all distances in the city are measured.

by Anonymousreply 207April 15, 2019 7:41 PM

I saw scaffolding in the pictures...were they restoring it? Is this a robbery in disguise? Lots of valuable art work!

by Anonymousreply 208April 15, 2019 7:41 PM

Sky New- french fire department: next hour and a hald crucial to see if fire can be contained.

by Anonymousreply 209April 15, 2019 7:42 PM

Why couldn't it have been that eyesore Eiffel tower instead??

by Anonymousreply 210April 15, 2019 7:43 PM

Oops...

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by Anonymousreply 211April 15, 2019 7:43 PM

all I want to know is how is the inside, is it burning, drowned in water? There are so many paintings, huges, that cannot be move easily. Some time there's more damage from the firemen's water than from the fire. Neighbours are being evacuated.

by Anonymousreply 212April 15, 2019 7:44 PM

Sky News also said stone vault MAY protect artwork.

One ofnthe towers is now on fire. Hopefully the rose Window remains unbroken.

by Anonymousreply 213April 15, 2019 7:47 PM

How does stone burn?

by Anonymousreply 214April 15, 2019 7:50 PM

I hope the gargoyles survive--they are my favorite part of the Cathedral. They are so cute.

by Anonymousreply 215April 15, 2019 7:51 PM

Hot French guy

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by Anonymousreply 216April 15, 2019 7:52 PM

Are there nude photos of hot homosexual Macron?

by Anonymousreply 217April 15, 2019 7:53 PM

Sky News interrupted guest to say reports that the cathedral may not be able to be saved.

by Anonymousreply 218April 15, 2019 7:55 PM

I want to vomit.

How much more over-the-top shitty news do we need to endure on a daily basis?

Why couldn't it have been Mar-a-Lago?

by Anonymousreply 219April 15, 2019 7:55 PM

The footage reminded me of the paintings that were removed from the hallway in Rosemary's Baby.

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by Anonymousreply 220April 15, 2019 7:57 PM

Probably started from a worker's discarded cigarette butt.

by Anonymousreply 221April 15, 2019 7:58 PM

I'm assuming this is some kind of terrorism? How could this happen by accident

by Anonymousreply 222April 15, 2019 7:58 PM

I wonder if the treasury is affected and if they were able to get things out before the fire reached it.

by Anonymousreply 223April 15, 2019 8:00 PM

Imagine if you were the construction worker who started the fire that burned down Notre Dame

by Anonymousreply 224April 15, 2019 8:01 PM

This is so sad

by Anonymousreply 225April 15, 2019 8:02 PM

[quote]but there seems to be something in a certain group that doesn’t allow them to be flexible. They have to conquer. They are “helping us” by doing this

I don't see how the Jews benefit from this -- no I have to disagree.

by Anonymousreply 226April 15, 2019 8:02 PM

Singing in the street. This made me tear up.

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by Anonymousreply 227April 15, 2019 8:03 PM

R224 He's probably jumped into the Seine by now.

by Anonymousreply 228April 15, 2019 8:03 PM

The restorers are doing an excellent job. The cathedral has stood all this time, survived both world wars, and now it gets seriously damaged in the 21st century.

by Anonymousreply 229April 15, 2019 8:04 PM

Accidental fires happen on construction sites a lot. Electrical equipment + an old, fragile structure...

by Anonymousreply 230April 15, 2019 8:08 PM

They need to quit singing and grab some buckets!

by Anonymousreply 231April 15, 2019 8:11 PM

Heartbreaking, such an enormous loss.

by Anonymousreply 232April 15, 2019 8:13 PM

r224, I would be able to live with myself, I would definitely take my own life.

by Anonymousreply 233April 15, 2019 8:14 PM

who are the construction workers? Are they in a union? I'm guessing they were being cheap and used non-union workers and thus creating this "accident". Lots of construction accidents and deaths over here as they use cheap(and often illegal) labor now.

by Anonymousreply 234April 15, 2019 8:16 PM

Cunts definitely wanted the Art work...

by Anonymousreply 235April 15, 2019 8:16 PM

[quote] A witness describes it as "the loss of Christianity in Europe."

Catholics are apostate pagans, who broke away from the original Christian church in 1054.

by Anonymousreply 236April 15, 2019 8:25 PM
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by Anonymousreply 237April 15, 2019 8:25 PM

[quote] Those "flying water tankers" drop the water with such force that it would collapse the cathedral instantly.

R31, the roof and spire collapsed anyway from the gigantic engulfing fire. They might as well have dosed it from above. The bigger problem was that the fire spread so rapidly, like a house made up of matches - they didn't have enough time to organise aerial firefighting helicopters.

[quote] And you can't do that shit on just one building in a crowded city, Jesus!

No, the Notre Dame is not in a crowded area - it's on a separate island. It's on one side of an open-space square, with only a few other structures flanking it.

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by Anonymousreply 238April 15, 2019 8:35 PM

"Restoration"...what is that about?

by Anonymousreply 239April 15, 2019 8:43 PM

This seems to be the aerial view of the fire from above. Roof is gone. There's a gaping hole where the spire was.

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by Anonymousreply 240April 15, 2019 8:48 PM

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by Anonymousreply 241April 15, 2019 8:50 PM

I feel for the Parisian Catholics. Easter Masses at les cathédrales restantes will be packed!

by Anonymousreply 242April 15, 2019 9:01 PM

I'm so glad Dump weighed in though, because a guy who calls airtankers "flying water tankers" is clearly the world's leading authority on firefighting in metropolitan areas.

Is he ever not a national embarrassment? Can he ever not be a know-it-all? You know what's going to happen -- if the cathedral collapses (God forbid), he'll tweet "I told them to bring in the flying fire hydrants but they didn't listen and now look."

by Anonymousreply 243April 15, 2019 9:09 PM

R242, at least he didn't tweet something truly vile like he normally does.

by Anonymousreply 244April 15, 2019 9:14 PM

The night is young, R244!

by Anonymousreply 245April 15, 2019 9:15 PM

The conspiracy theorists seriously need to shut the fuck up.

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by Anonymousreply 246April 15, 2019 9:29 PM

r246, ...then don't link to hoaxes

by Anonymousreply 247April 15, 2019 9:32 PM

@abc7rachel

A car carrier big rig exploded around the #PortofLA this AM, causing this #SanPedro resident’s windows to shatter. The Vietnam vet said the blast sounded like a 500lb bomb. @ABC7

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by Anonymousreply 248April 15, 2019 9:36 PM

R201: Because they won them. Murdoch sold almost everything in the last sale. Disney got into a bidding war with Comcast for Sky Europe and Comcast/NBCuniversal won. They have the Sky Satellite service in the UK, Ireland, Germany and Italy. And all the channels that Sky owned. I wouldn't be surprised if MSNBC is eventually re-branded as Sky News America.

by Anonymousreply 249April 15, 2019 9:38 PM

I for one blame Meghan Markle. Very clever, Sunshine Sachs, but we're on to you!

by Anonymousreply 250April 15, 2019 9:39 PM

@_esaliba

Tomorrow's front page of French newspaper @libe reads 'Notre Drame'

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by Anonymousreply 251April 15, 2019 9:39 PM

r248, while that is indeed sad, it in no way compares to the tragedy of Notre Damn collapsing.

by Anonymousreply 252April 15, 2019 9:39 PM

Leftists are already declaring this is insignificant because of France’s colonialism and this is a white privilege structure, no one cared about the mosques burned down.

by Anonymousreply 253April 15, 2019 9:39 PM

R253: Sure, Jan.

R248: The conspiracy crazed lunatics want to pretend these were both related terrorist attacks.

by Anonymousreply 254April 15, 2019 9:41 PM

Trump is telling the French that water is not heavy and would not have damaged the cathedral..."if they would only listen".

by Anonymousreply 255April 15, 2019 9:42 PM

Sad but redesign long overdue. Trump will rebuild Paris! Get rid of that goddamn lepprakon. Build spear 20 feet taller. Brass-and-glass elevators to top of spear. Replace old windows with gold mirror. Add stepped facade w/ shiny brass lettering. Too old. Nobody remembers what the hell that building even was. Sign will help. Beautiful! Classy!

by Anonymousreply 256April 15, 2019 9:43 PM

R243, no offence to the French, but the Parisian firefighters and security planners are clearly not the "world's leading authority on firefighting in metropolitan areas" either.

There were planned restoration works on a world heritage site (with a wooden core), one of the most important and iconic buildings in France. Some kind of fire-safeguard plan (or at least emergency response plan) should have been in place. But it appears everybody was caught offguard and nothing extra-effective was organised. A big part of the cathedral burned down. A few hoses is more a containment strategy, not exactly "the world's best" anti-fire strategy.

by Anonymousreply 257April 15, 2019 9:43 PM

@meaganryan

April 15th is a day for mourning so much loss... 🌹 #NeverForgotten

1865 President Lincoln passed after being shot.

1912 RMS Titanic sinks with the loss of hundreds of lives.

2013 Boston Bombings during the Boston Marathon.

2019 Cathedral Notre-Dame de Paris devastated by fire.

by Anonymousreply 258April 15, 2019 9:44 PM

I can't imagine being the guy responsible for this. He'll probably kill himself.

by Anonymousreply 259April 15, 2019 9:45 PM

@Newsweek

Jerusalem's Al-Aqsa Mosque burns at the same time as fire engulfs Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris

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by Anonymousreply 260April 15, 2019 9:46 PM

Wow, you're right, R258, today is the anniversary of the Titanic tragedy.

[quote] RMS Titanic sank in the early morning of 15 April 1912 in the North Atlantic Ocean.

by Anonymousreply 261April 15, 2019 9:48 PM

R260: The Lord is Pissed Off and Fired UP!!!!! His wrath waxes hot!!!!

by Anonymousreply 262April 15, 2019 9:48 PM

A lot of weird, bad shite happens in April.

by Anonymousreply 263April 15, 2019 9:49 PM

Even if the Parisian firefighters were incompetent and caught off-guard, they are still HOT!

by Anonymousreply 264April 15, 2019 9:51 PM

Sacred bleu! Quel dommage!

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by Anonymousreply 265April 15, 2019 9:53 PM

Beware the ides of April!

by Anonymousreply 266April 15, 2019 9:54 PM

Damage

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by Anonymousreply 267April 15, 2019 9:55 PM

Yes, those French firefighters -- [italic]pompiers[/italic] -- are definitely hot!

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by Anonymousreply 268April 15, 2019 9:56 PM

[quote] Sacred bleu! High school French don't fail me now.

Oh dear, R265.

It's - Sacré bleu.

by Anonymousreply 269April 15, 2019 10:06 PM

Youtube has some promo vids for "Les Pompiers" calendars shot over the years by one Fred Goudon.

So I wondered: Is masturbating to French firefighters while Notre Dame is still in smoking ruins a bad thing?

by Anonymousreply 270April 15, 2019 10:06 PM

R258, today is also the 30th anniversary of the disaster at Hillsborough Stadium, in which 96 fans of Liverpool FC were killed.

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by Anonymousreply 271April 15, 2019 10:07 PM

Notre Dame has fire coming out of its wherever.

by Anonymousreply 272April 15, 2019 10:09 PM

I’m on LI and our first brush fires are always in April because of the winds. I wonder if spring winds are similar in Paris.

by Anonymousreply 273April 15, 2019 10:13 PM

[quote] today is also the 30th anniversary of the disaster at Hillsborough Stadium, in which 96 fans of Liverpool FC were killed.

Soccer fans. Not really a tragedy.

by Anonymousreply 274April 15, 2019 10:14 PM

What does Rupert Murdoch still own? I know he has YouTube, WSJ & NY Post. His sons have Fox News.

by Anonymousreply 275April 15, 2019 10:16 PM

It’s no coincidence that the Muzzies lit this up during Holy Week.

by Anonymousreply 276April 15, 2019 10:16 PM

Grab it by the apse...

by Anonymousreply 277April 15, 2019 10:17 PM

R276 Already the 'blame the Muslims' troll.

by Anonymousreply 278April 15, 2019 10:17 PM

Notre Dame is an insatiable bottom.

by Anonymousreply 279April 15, 2019 10:20 PM

Yes Paris is actually exactly like Long Island!!

by Anonymousreply 280April 15, 2019 10:32 PM

Are there photos of the construction workers? Have they released their nudes yet?

by Anonymousreply 281April 15, 2019 10:36 PM

In one of the niches is a Guadalupe, a gift from Mexico.

Hope she made it through...

by Anonymousreply 282April 15, 2019 10:47 PM

Are the construction workers day laborers? Syrians and Greeks and Poles hired outside La Depot de la Maison?

by Anonymousreply 283April 15, 2019 11:04 PM

An odd illustration of France's transition to an Islamic society.

by Anonymousreply 284April 15, 2019 11:25 PM

That'll teach the Papist pedos.

by Anonymousreply 285April 15, 2019 11:40 PM

Wow all these fires happening at religious places during Holy Week, it really does seem as if God is trying to tell us something. And yeah, April is a shitty month, Hitler's birthday anyone?

by Anonymousreply 286April 15, 2019 11:41 PM

He is trying, R286: you're too big for polka dots.

by Anonymousreply 287April 15, 2019 11:54 PM

R275: YouTube is Google. And he owns Fox Nazi News, the kids just run various parts of the company.

Murdoch is in possession of the following: NY POST Wall Street Journal FOX Broadcasting and it's 20-something Broadcast TV stations FOX Sports 1 and 2, and all the regional Fox Sports Networks Fox Nazi News and Fox Nazi Business

In the UK and Ireland, he has The Sun, The Irish Sun, The Scottish Sun, The Times of London, and The Sunday Times (of London), and the Wireless Group, his new radio station group he just bought over there

In Australia, he owns The Australian newspaper, a newspaper in every Capital City save for Perth, FOXTEL cable and satellite, and all his FOX Channels including Sky Nazi News Australia

His kids run various divisions of all of it. He should be dead soon...I hope.

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by Anonymousreply 288April 16, 2019 1:43 AM

His kids aren't much better than he is.

by Anonymousreply 289April 16, 2019 2:13 AM

Is the Priory of Sion ok?

by Anonymousreply 290April 16, 2019 3:09 AM

Notre Dame isn’t completely out of the woods — and firefighters will continue to battle the massive blaze at the landmark well into the night.

There’s a risk that some of the historic cathedral’s interior structures could collapse, said Paris fire chief Jean-Claude Gallet.

Firefighters will work overnight to cool them down, he said.

Meanwhile, one official said it would take “decades” to rebuild the landmark due to the “considerable” damage.

Eric Fischer, Director of the Foundation of l’Œuvre Notre-Dame, which is responsible for the 850-year-old Gothic cathedral’s preservation, made the comment to Le Parisien, adding that France is “fortunate” to have a good network of craftsmen to work on the structure.

Paris Mayor Anne Hidalgo tweeted a photo of some of the works of arts saved from inside the cathedral thanks to a human chain.

One work left intact was Nicolas Coustou’s Pietà, pictures showed. The crown of thorns — said to be the wreath placed on the head of Jesus before he was crucified — and a tunic worn by St. Louis were also saved from flames, said Hidalgo.

Officials haven’t yet released an inventory of what works have been destroyed. Firefighters struggled to take down some of the large paintings in time, said Notre Dame’s top administrative cleric, Monsignor Patrick Chauvet.

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by Anonymousreply 291April 16, 2019 4:20 AM

Can you imagine being the company that was contracted to do the renovations? They're basically going to go out of business.

"We'd like you to do renovations for us, what was your last job?" "Oh, we did the renovations for the Notre Dame--" "Next!"

by Anonymousreply 292April 16, 2019 4:33 AM

When did they start this renovation?

by Anonymousreply 293April 16, 2019 5:32 AM

What if it was set on fire by the victims of priests' sexual abuse? How would we feel?

I'd be torn, because it is such a beautiful, historical piece of architecture, but it's also one of the most famous landmarks of the Roman Catholic faith - and fuck the Roman Catholic faith.

by Anonymousreply 294April 16, 2019 5:53 AM

If any of the rose windows were destroyed, I hope they replace them with an exact copy of what was there before, not come up with something new and modern like Chagall's ceiling in the Opera Garnier.

by Anonymousreply 295April 16, 2019 6:01 AM

I wish they would do the whole interior in Art Nouveau, but I think the whole building will end up being another Centre Pompidou.

by Anonymousreply 296April 16, 2019 6:09 AM

I mean that they would probably do the rose window in the exact same shape as before with the same size of pieces of glass, but I'm worried that they would get a modern artist to do the figures on the glass in a modern style instead of copying what was there before.

by Anonymousreply 297April 16, 2019 6:18 AM

There wasn't a lot of water poured on the fire at first. I believe this was because the fire fighters were removing artifacts and artwork. It was reported that much of that was saved. CNN reported that one of the towers was on fire. As usual they fucked up. The fire brigade was pouring water on the tower to cool it down so that it wouldn't burn. It was reported that the towers were saved.

The cause still appears to be a construction accident. The ancient building was in grave need of repair.

This is a tragic loss. There was a pipe organ in there that is historic. I've heard it on CD many times. It is probably a total loss.

by Anonymousreply 298April 16, 2019 6:20 AM

In London, many of the buildings destroyed in the Blitz were rebuilt to replicate the old designs, but used new materials doctored to resemble the old material.

by Anonymousreply 299April 16, 2019 6:23 AM

I think I've just found my next idea for a book!

by Anonymousreply 300April 16, 2019 6:31 AM

NotreDame Cathedral ablaze is the perfect symbol of the modern age, it's almost as if the building set itself on fire to be done with seeing native Europeans replaced and spat on, the spiritual life of Europe crushed and mocked. The continent turned into a supermarket

by Anonymousreply 301April 16, 2019 6:32 AM

Hah! Love it R300

by Anonymousreply 302April 16, 2019 6:45 AM

R301 incisive analysis. Marine.

by Anonymousreply 303April 16, 2019 6:47 AM

I knew right away that the bird thing was a typo. Some of youze are way too eager to lose your shit.

by Anonymousreply 304April 16, 2019 7:09 AM

What about the awesome gargoyles??

by Anonymousreply 305April 16, 2019 7:10 AM

The baby birds burning to death of awfully sad.

by Anonymousreply 306April 16, 2019 7:23 AM

I was enjoying Reuters' video feed of the spandex clad male joggers in the vicinity of the Cathedral, when the live Twitter comment feed started getting weird:

So now, there are 'Muslims did it' fake news story plants, complete with video of a supposed arsonist 'Imam' on one of the bell towers. Looks like a standard issue priest, in reality.

by Anonymousreply 307April 16, 2019 7:38 AM

I hope baby birds were fine too.

I remember this video of a belltower collapsing from Spain from a few years ago - you can see there's a stork nesting on top of it and she flies out of her nest when the belltower starts falling down. But I'm afraid she left some cute baby storks behind in the nest. And even if she didn't she still became homeless.

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by Anonymousreply 308April 16, 2019 7:39 AM

[quote] What about the awesome gargoyles??

They're fine, they send their love.

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by Anonymousreply 309April 16, 2019 7:55 AM

€300 million pledged so far for the restoration

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by Anonymousreply 310April 16, 2019 7:57 AM

Watching this iconic cathederal burn, I couldn't help but see it as a metaphor for thecollapse of Christianity and culture in Western Europe.

by Anonymousreply 311April 16, 2019 8:00 AM

Great photo this.

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by Anonymousreply 312April 16, 2019 8:01 AM

And, R311, about fucking time

by Anonymousreply 313April 16, 2019 8:32 AM

I second that, R313.

by Anonymousreply 314April 16, 2019 8:36 AM

So what do you want instead of Western culture in Europe, r313 and r314?

by Anonymousreply 315April 16, 2019 8:56 AM

[quote] Watching this iconic cathederal burn, I couldn't help but see it as a metaphor for thecollapse of Christianity

Catholicism ain’t “Christianity”. Catholics are apostates. We are the original Christian Church. The New Testament was written in Greek, not Latin.

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by Anonymousreply 316April 16, 2019 8:58 AM

I'm thinking not in religious terma but in terms of philosophy, art, aesthetics.

by Anonymousreply 317April 16, 2019 9:16 AM

One can only hope r316 is parody post.

by Anonymousreply 318April 16, 2019 9:17 AM

Seeing photos at the Daily Mail of what the building looks like in daylight...the scorched, smoking hulk of what was once the magnificent Notre Dame. It makes me tear up.

by Anonymousreply 319April 16, 2019 9:29 AM

Pardon me for dragging such a nincompoop into the proceedings, but I can't wait to see how Smegz makes this all about her.

by Anonymousreply 320April 16, 2019 9:31 AM

I just want to know what they saved.

by Anonymousreply 321April 16, 2019 9:45 AM

We shall offer prayers of thanksgiving to Saint Genevieve that most of the cathedral has been saved. Homosexual Macron has promised to restore it.

by Anonymousreply 322April 16, 2019 9:49 AM

R321 Jesus' Crown of Thorns, all of the artwork, and the shroud of St. Louis are all safe according to Francesco Follo, spokesman. Many of the statues and precious things had been removed for the renovation.

The gold cross at the altar along with a Madonna and Son were spared.

I think the stained glass is a goner.

by Anonymousreply 323April 16, 2019 9:52 AM

[quote] I'm thinking ... in terms of philosophy, art, aesthetics.

R317, you’re thinking Western Christianity then. Roman (Papal) Christianity broke away from the original unitary Church in the East (hint: Christianity started in the Middle East) and doesn’t really have the same aesthetics or philosophy as Eastern Christianity - the original one.

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by Anonymousreply 324April 16, 2019 9:56 AM

R312. I love how the talking heads on tv are rhapsodizing about that photo, and how extraordinary it was that the cross had survived amidst all the destruction. They’ve failed to notice that the candles in the candelabra flanking the altar didn’t even melt in the cataclysm.

by Anonymousreply 325April 16, 2019 10:23 AM

Maybe those unmelted candles are the fake plastic Chinese ones with electric lightbulbs at the top?

by Anonymousreply 326April 16, 2019 10:35 AM

I care about this as art and history. But now that it's all gushing about the "miraculous" preservation of crosses and Madonnas, I'm out.

by Anonymousreply 327April 16, 2019 11:00 AM

And I wouldn't look too closely at that Crown of Thorns...

by Anonymousreply 328April 16, 2019 11:00 AM

Mika just said the organ was from the 12th century, honestly how stupid are these people.

by Anonymousreply 329April 16, 2019 11:18 AM

I want to know what the fuck happened? Who was responsible for the "work"? Bet it was a fucking worker smoking. Why weren't rules enforced? Did they hire proper construction workers who know what they are doing? or are these the cheap illegal labor? Fucking idiots.

I remember they were restoring the St. Patrick's in NYC. Done slowly and properly...

by Anonymousreply 330April 16, 2019 2:09 PM

The Notre Dame fire is a metaphor for the attitude of Western European leaders towards their own national cultures over the past few decades.

by Anonymousreply 331April 16, 2019 2:26 PM

Was it insured? Discuss

by Anonymousreply 332April 16, 2019 2:31 PM

It was an inside job.

by Anonymousreply 333April 16, 2019 2:47 PM

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

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by Anonymousreply 334April 16, 2019 3:43 PM

As usual, fat people ruin everything

by Anonymousreply 335April 16, 2019 3:58 PM

He sho' is ugly.

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by Anonymousreply 336April 16, 2019 4:00 PM

5million seems very low for fixing the spire. Cheap cunts. This is what happens when you try to cut corners.

by Anonymousreply 337April 16, 2019 4:02 PM

So now people are inside surveying the damage. There's a huge mess in the area of the nave, where smoldering wreckage from above fell in. But - the altar is saved and intact, as are the large stained glass windows and much of the statuary. There is of course some water damage. But, most of the building is made of stone which did not burn. All the news stories state the "wooden frame and roof/spire" are gone - but that appears to be up top only? Were there wooden beams that ran down into the lower parts of the cathedral, or were these all only up top holding up the lead roof -?

Don't get me wrong, losing the 1000 year old wooden beams that were the original part of the construction is devastating, these are irreplaceable in terms of historic value. But it does appear that the vast majority of the building is ok, including both bell towers. The roof will be re-built, the spire (which is a relatively new addition from the 1800s) will also be re-constructed. From what I can see today, I think the French got very lucky here.

by Anonymousreply 338April 16, 2019 4:07 PM

see good article here re the wooden roof and frame. I'm still confused as to how far down the wood 'frame' extended.

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by Anonymousreply 339April 16, 2019 4:08 PM

All these articles talking about the wooden “frame” of the cathedral are idiotic. The only wood in the construction is the roof, everything below that is stone. The wooden roof does not support the walls, it’s just a replaceable covering. And no Richard Engel, the won’t be any discussion of rebuilding it in a modern style. The entire interior is intact except for a few places where the vault collapsed.

by Anonymousreply 340April 16, 2019 4:15 PM

[quote]The Notre Dame fire is a metaphor for the attitude of Western European leaders towards their own national cultures over the past few decades.

Sweetheart? I know this may come as a shock to "intellectuals" like yourself and others on social media who get into their little cocoon of "blame the brown people if I so much as stub my toe" and who use any opportunity to express bigotry and racism and fantasies of Europe having been all unicorns and rainbows and never ever having had wars with hundreds of millions being killed, maimed, raped over the last thousand years, but even some of the very architecture within that building was borrowed from Eastern architecture. So what you mourn, is the loss of something that showed why "culture" doesn't exist in a bubble.

by Anonymousreply 341April 16, 2019 4:18 PM

That's what I thought too r340, that the only part that really burned up was the roof and spire. Some of the smoldering ruins fell into the church itself and damaged chairs/pews and perhaps some artifacts, plus the water damage - but otherwise its all salvageable or untouched. All the reports of the cathedral being a 'total loss', 'destroyed', 'decades to re-build' had me really scratching my head. Was afraid to say anything on soc media since emotions were so high with everyone.

by Anonymousreply 342April 16, 2019 4:22 PM

R342, the reason people thought it might have been a total loss is that heat can damage and weaken the integrity of the stone.

by Anonymousreply 343April 16, 2019 4:26 PM

[quote]I want to know what the fuck happened? Who was responsible for the "work"? Bet it was a fucking worker smoking. Why weren't rules enforced? Did they hire proper construction workers who know what they are doing? or are these the cheap illegal labor? Fucking idiots. I remember they were restoring the St. Patrick's in NYC. Done slowly and properly...

Because you think construction workers who aren't cheap labor, never make mistakes? Trump wouldn't have a single building completed without them.

And you think St. Patrick's didn't have "cheap illegal labor"? Are you even from NYC?

by Anonymousreply 344April 16, 2019 4:31 PM

[quote]Sweetheart?

Why does starting a sentence like this sound so frau-y?

by Anonymousreply 345April 16, 2019 4:35 PM

R345, because I've been on DL for over 20 years and their terms have seeped into my brain! But by all means, ignore my actual point. Sorry if the the "sweetheart" was like a roadblock for you.

by Anonymousreply 346April 16, 2019 4:37 PM

-the

by Anonymousreply 347April 16, 2019 4:38 PM

French labor laws make it difficult to hire illegals. The country has a high unemployment rate as it is, so finding ordinary labor isn't difficult. And, snce this was the restoration of an 850 year old cathedral, I'm not sure if the labor was unskilled.

by Anonymousreply 348April 16, 2019 4:42 PM

It truly is astonishing that basic physics, old, dried wood burning, commonplace incompetence and a history of tons of historical and non-historical buildings catching fire, all goes out the window when idiots can use it for their own, warped conspiracies.

by Anonymousreply 349April 16, 2019 4:45 PM

[quote] Why does starting a sentence like this sound so frau-y

I know. People think they’re insulting someone else by calling them sweetheart, hon, cupcake, sweet cheeks and it just sounds so idiotic. Like some 400 lb school librarian with leg ulcers who’s to lazy to get up off her ass. “Sweetie? Could you just use the computer, hon? That’s what it’s there for. Thanks, cupcake. Is it lunchtime yet.....?”

by Anonymousreply 350April 16, 2019 4:48 PM

I have a strong feeling this was an accident by some restoration worker. It seems to be all too common lately, there have been far too many high profile buildings gutted by fire, and it’s always a construction worker causing it.

by Anonymousreply 351April 16, 2019 4:53 PM

R350, if I were being honest, I would've gone with "stupid, provincial cunt," which is what I usually think when idiots go in with the "western civilization" nonsense which can easily be smacked down with facts that do not mesh with the revisionist horseshit that a lot of you tell yourselves.

by Anonymousreply 352April 16, 2019 4:53 PM

R351, people are too stupid to comprehend that when you're just a construction worker working on something, anything for far too long, you sometimes lapse. Idiots trying to push conspiracy bullshit are so far gone and think that every second of every hour of every day when you're just working construction, you're always thinking "Wow, like I'm working on a really important symbol of western civilization." They're construction workers working on yet another building. You think "history" factors into what they're doing? In the end, it's still a job and people get careless on jobs.

by Anonymousreply 353April 16, 2019 5:01 PM

R353, first it's not just a construction company, it's a restoration company. Not every construction company is qualified to restore 850 year old buildings. It's like asking a Butcher to preform surgery.

by Anonymousreply 354April 16, 2019 5:06 PM

The french smoke like chimneys...bet it was a smoker. Smoking is not allowed on construction sites...not sure if it's the same over there.

Also, they said they put away tools around 5pm, as you know the French are lazy cunts, and fire started around 630pm. so someone forgot to turn something off is another probability.

by Anonymousreply 355April 16, 2019 5:08 PM

R354, I understand that it's also restoration. I mean a "restorer" did this:

But chances are that it was related to the construction aspect. I mean you're working with incendiary tools in a place with lots of old, dry wood.

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by Anonymousreply 356April 16, 2019 5:13 PM

It could also be an electrical fire, r355. I don't know when electricity was put into the cathedral or if it was maintained, but a lot power tools and old wiring isn't an ideal combination.

by Anonymousreply 357April 16, 2019 5:16 PM

Stephanie Ruhle, “do you think it’s realistic that the cathedral should be rebuilt?” to one of her guests. Considering 90% of the cathedral is standing, it’s probably a no brainer. These news anchors are such idiots.

by Anonymousreply 358April 16, 2019 5:47 PM

700 million pledged so far to rebuild

by Anonymousreply 359April 16, 2019 5:57 PM

a rescue worker

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by Anonymousreply 360April 16, 2019 5:58 PM

Was that water refreshing Erna?

You always look EXACTLY like yourself in pictures.

by Anonymousreply 361April 16, 2019 6:01 PM

^Thank you for the laugh

by Anonymousreply 362April 16, 2019 6:16 PM

IBM to donate 1 Million Euro to rebuild Notre Dame

by Anonymousreply 363April 16, 2019 6:19 PM

Nothing from cheap fuck, Bezos.

by Anonymousreply 364April 16, 2019 6:23 PM

Bezos has been spotted checking out apts in the $60 million range in NYC (billionaire row of course)

by Anonymousreply 365April 16, 2019 6:27 PM

R364, if he donates to this rather than give a raise to his employees, then that should anger every American. If he does both, then cool.

And the Catholic fucking Church can sell a few baubles or real estate holdings and pay for the repairs.

by Anonymousreply 366April 16, 2019 6:28 PM

R366, not for nothing but he already raised the minium mwage to $15 regardless of location. I'm talking about his cheapness in charitable contributions. His wife has a $100 million or two to spare as well.

by Anonymousreply 367April 16, 2019 6:32 PM

R366, The building is owned by the state of France, not the Catholic Church.

by Anonymousreply 368April 16, 2019 6:33 PM

Yes, they are the cheapest of cheap among the Billionaires, in terms of their charitable donation. I read the figures last month...

Although Bezos, 55, and his estranged wife, MacKenzie, recently pledged $2 billion to a new charitable initiative, their previous giving amounts to a total of just over $145 million or .0906 percent — far less than 1 percent — of their net worth. Out of $100,000, that would be like spending $90.06 on charity.

“The record of both Amazon and Jeff Bezos reveals that they are takers, not givers,” said Queens City Councilman Jimmy Van Bramer, whose district includes Long Island City, where Amazon plans to set up a corporate headquarters. “When they make promises of how generous they will be, I look at what they have done in the past to know what the truth really is.”

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by Anonymousreply 369April 16, 2019 6:36 PM

@AmyMek

ALERT!

French Media reported there were no construction workers at the time of the fire at cathédrale Notre Dame & the Church was closed

So WHY is there a video of person at one of the the 2 towers half an hour after the start of the fire?

Anyone have more info?

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by Anonymousreply 370April 16, 2019 6:40 PM

R368, but it represents Catholic history. Why wouldn't they contribute?

Bezos is expected to do more than the Catholic Church itself?

by Anonymousreply 371April 16, 2019 6:41 PM

[quote]The building is owned by the state of France, not the Catholic Church.

Surely the whore of Rome pays a generous rent.

by Anonymousreply 372April 16, 2019 6:42 PM

Somebody please FF r370, I'm all out of FFs to give. ...thanks

by Anonymousreply 373April 16, 2019 6:47 PM

Bezos is a satanist/usurer (Goldman Sachs) , r364, so nothing from Bezos.

by Anonymousreply 374April 16, 2019 6:48 PM

We actually agree, Erna.

How's van Gogh?

by Anonymousreply 375April 16, 2019 6:52 PM

For those who don't know Amy Mek (Mekelberg). Allow me to tell you about the person R370 looks to for information:

She calls herself a psychotherapist. She has no job. No JOB. Tweets ALL. DAY.

In fact, she cost her husband his job because she's a known bigot who makes Pamela Geller look Muslim. She literally tweets thousands and thousands and thousands of times and every single one is to bash Muslims. She has doxxed innocent Muslims. She is so toxic that she cost her own brother and his wife a lot of business in Brooklyn.

Here's the hilarious part about her: This parasite who goes on and on about "violent Moslems[sic]" literally moved around to be closer to a prisoner who practically beheaded his girlfriend. She physically moved when he was moved to another prison,.

And here's the even more hilarious part: This vile, rancid cunt who doxxed innocent people solely because they were Muslim...was simply outraged when she was exposed for who she was and her flying monkey followers like R370 thinks she someone you're supposed to listen to.

by Anonymousreply 376April 16, 2019 7:02 PM

what do you mean by doxing Muslims? I'm sorry for being ignorant in this matter... please enlighten...TIA

by Anonymousreply 377April 16, 2019 7:07 PM

And in case you don't believe me, here's the article about the psycho R370 follows. The woman is a fucking lunatic who blames Muslims for EVERYTHING. The only people sicker than her are the people who know her psychotic obsession with hate and follow her because they think she's coming from a place other than maliciousness to her very bone (not soul, she doesn't have one).

The journalist who had "the nerve" to out her for being a cancerous psycho got death threats.

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by Anonymousreply 378April 16, 2019 7:09 PM

R377, she revealed personal information about innocent people who were Muslim. Names, addresses, phone numbers and they were being harassed because of it. She's a genuinely sick person who literally wakes up in the morning to spread hate for Muslims and doesn't stop until she's hanging upside down to go to sleep.

by Anonymousreply 379April 16, 2019 7:10 PM

R298 the organ seems to have avoided the flame and the heat, but is covered with soot (google translate helped)? It will not be possible to play on it for a while, it has hundreds of pipes who need a good clean up, plus the volume of the music would be too much for the vault at the moment, not stones vault are not secured yet.

R357 there was no old electricity wire, they never installed electricty in the roof to "avoid fire accident", but they might get some gaz flame to work on the lead, used for the Spike.

In french media there is no speculation over terrorism but they are talking about fake gofundme accounts who started to collect money for the "restoration".

by Anonymousreply 380April 16, 2019 7:11 PM

R379, can't the muslims sue her? I remember Spike Lee revealed the info of someone and it was the wrong person (who did someone or owned something, I can't remember) and had to pay.

by Anonymousreply 381April 16, 2019 7:14 PM

R381, so many people have been subject to this level of harassment that the courts would be bogged down with lawsuits. Everyone just lets it go because you feel helpless. People have been trying to get Twitter to do something, but they haven't. She's mental and the people who follow her, more so. Her own brother and his wife tried to distance themselves from her because she hurt their business with this shit.

by Anonymousreply 382April 16, 2019 7:18 PM

Thanks, r380, I was throwing wiring out there as an alternative to the jerks who are blaming immigrants and smoking.

by Anonymousreply 383April 16, 2019 7:23 PM

Bless you r375, Van Gogh is fine and we have just returned from his bedtime walk where he did 3 poopoos and many peepees!

by Anonymousreply 384April 16, 2019 7:36 PM

The Grande organ: "One of the earliest organs at Notre-Dame, built in 1403 by Friedrich Schambantz, was replaced between 1730 and 1738 by François Thierry. During the restoration of the cathedral by Eugène Viollet-le-Duc, Aristide Cavaillé-Coll built a new organ, using pipe work from the former instruments. The organ was dedicated in 1868. "

by Anonymousreply 385April 16, 2019 9:09 PM

it was arson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XMcwemnsAw

by Anonymousreply 386April 17, 2019 6:06 PM

a heinous crime

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by Anonymousreply 387April 17, 2019 6:07 PM

[quote]Erna (hates thieves and murderers)

But will every little bit of their shit.

by Anonymousreply 388April 17, 2019 6:08 PM

[quote]a heinous crime

I always trust bllloggggerrrs who post from the driver seat of their cars.

by Anonymousreply 389April 17, 2019 6:51 PM

Why does that guy at r387 (and others) keep saying that ND "burned down to the ground" - ?? Only the wooden top framing and roof and spire burned, leaving wreckage in the nave and some water/smoke damage throughout. 99% of the building structure is still standing and hopefully sound.

by Anonymousreply 390April 17, 2019 6:56 PM

Forgot to sign off at r390-

by Anonymousreply 391April 17, 2019 6:56 PM

Has Rhoda “fully engorged” Young filed her report yet? Someone buy this girl a plane ticket.

by Anonymousreply 392April 17, 2019 7:04 PM

@dimitrisnowden

within 29 hrs, a small country roughly the same size as tx called france was able to raise $700m frm a handful of donors to fix the norte dame cathedral.

but yet a very large country 18 times larger than france called united states cant raise $55m to fix flint mi water problem🧐

by Anonymousreply 393April 19, 2019 5:14 PM

False equivalency and idiotic, R393. But thanks for your input.

by Anonymousreply 394April 19, 2019 8:16 PM

Precious little citizens survived and are alive and well!

Saint Genevieve has protected them/

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by Anonymousreply 395April 20, 2019 1:24 PM

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

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by Anonymousreply 396May 7, 2019 7:22 PM

Hideous. How many millions is Missy designer planning to put in her pocket for this?

by Anonymousreply 397May 7, 2019 7:46 PM
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