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Why can't the Dems get the report directly from Mueller?

Forgive me my ignorance,but I cannot understand why the Democrats can't just call or visit Mueller and ask him to provide them a copy of the 300 page Report? Even if classified, the House Leaders must surely qualify to obtain access to and Read this Report, correct? Wasn't the investigation tax dollar funded? What is it about the process that prevents this from occurring? Thank you.

by Anonymousreply 2104/14/2019

because it's the AG's job and he's got to redact anything that's illegal to be presented to the congress

by Anonymousreply 104/14/2019

Nothing needs to be redacted to certain members of congress. Only need to redact it for the public.

by Anonymousreply 204/14/2019

Roger Stone wants his lawyer to see it. But not you.

by Anonymousreply 304/14/2019

R2 Except, Congress leaks like a sieve. And, certain aspects of grand jury proceedings have to be redacted even from Congress.

by Anonymousreply 404/14/2019

the only reason the Democrats want to see the report is so the can leak anything they can that will hurt Trump, just like his tax returns

by Anonymousreply 504/14/2019

The Dems will wait for Barr’s version. After, they’ll call on Mueller to verify it’s accuracy.

by Anonymousreply 604/14/2019

So r5, Trump shouldn't have done all that dirty shit if he didn't want people finding out about it.

by Anonymousreply 704/14/2019

[R7] you think the Democrats in Congress are so clean when it comes to their tax returns?

by Anonymousreply 804/14/2019

Trump forces Sessions to resign because Sessions won't guarantee him that he will bury the Mueller report. Trump puts in Barr who will cover anything up for Trump. Meuller report gots to AG, Barr claims no evidence of collusion. Redacts the report and sends it to Congress. Remember the Starr report on Clinton? That was released in full.

by Anonymousreply 904/14/2019

Mueller is said to be a follower of laws and traditions. His rules drawn up before he was appointed, says he is suppose to give his report to the Attorney General so that is what he has done. Democrats can call Mueller to testify and subpoena his report unredacted but the Attorney General will probably fight the congress and refuse. The matter will end up in the courts which will take years, just what Trump wants to drag all this out until after the 2020 election.

Releasing Grand Jury testimony without a court order allowing it is a felony, Mueller would be committing a felony to release his report to any but the AG.

by Anonymousreply 1004/14/2019

"The only reason the Democrats want to see the report is so the can leak anything they can that will hurt Trump, just like his tax returns"

Aww, let's not 'hurt' Trump.

If his taxes reveal money laundering and/or Russia wheelin' and dealin'... if the Mueller report is more damaging than just "no collusion"... he doesn't need to be our President anymore.

by Anonymousreply 1104/14/2019

Thank you all for taking the time to educate. It makes sense now. I see that i need to be more patient as protocol plays out.

by Anonymousreply 1204/14/2019

R9 Kenn Starr served under the Ethics in Government act, which required a report to be released in full, so he wrote his report in such a way that it would be permissible to be released. Mueller operated under an entirely separate set of rules, his report was only meant to be released to the AG, who can then release a report to Congress.

by Anonymousreply 1304/14/2019

r13 Trump himself said to release it in full - he only said that because he knew his man would cover it up.

by Anonymousreply 1404/14/2019

R14 only someone as deluded as you would call a man with Bill Barr's reputation Trump's "man."

by Anonymousreply 1504/14/2019

Look, the Mueller report isn't going to do much. We have to focus on Trump's moral decay: the affairs, the pay-offs, the financial shenanigans (Russian and otherwise), the conflicts of interest... these are what is going to bring him down.

His addiction to pussy will be his unravelling (poetic justice).

by Anonymousreply 1604/14/2019

Mueller works for the AG, legally. Everything goes through Rosenstein, who was legally in charge as Deputy AG until his resignation. With Barr’s confirmation, he’s in charge until a Deputy AG is named to replace Rosenstein.

It’s going to be a court fight. While nominally independent, Justice is an executive branch department which means it’s under the authority of the President -except when it’s investigating the President. This winds up in federal court which is independent of the Executive Branch and can compel the President along with his minions.

For now, the working product are not only Executive Office paper and subject to the authority of the President, but they also contain a large volume of Grand Jury evidence and testimony. While this can be released to Congress, there is a legal procedure for it; it cannot be publicly released. No grand jury evidence and testimony can.

Some people bring up Ken Starr and Watergate and think its comparable. They aren’t: the special counsel law that created an independent counsel expired. As an investigator, Mueller worked under the authority of the AG with a defined scope. He doesn’t have the autonomy for perpetual fishing expeditions that went nowhere like Starr’s did. On the other hand, Mueller actually has convictions - and not just two hillbillies. He got a lot of serious players and indicted a lot of Russians, totally blowing up Republicans claim of “no collusion”

Republicans can huff and puff but they know that refusing to obey an order from a federal court judge risks contempt and those are the kinds of charges that can put them in jail and potentially lead to disbarment, criminal indictment and serious prison time. Nobody’s taking the fall for Trump: the lack of loyalty by his lackeys has proved that.

This will wind up in the Supreme Court, who will probably split on this and permit parts to go to Congress and the Presidency to retain control over the working papers within reason.

by Anonymousreply 1704/14/2019

[quote][R14] only someone as deluded as you would call a man with Bill Barr's reputation Trump's "man”.

Okay, Trump’s bitch.

by Anonymousreply 1804/14/2019

R18, “stooge” also works. That’s Barr’s reputation, he’s a stooge and a hack. The memo he wrote auditioning for the AG job was dreadful.

by Anonymousreply 1904/14/2019

R19. Like a Barbara Walters question? “If you were a stooge, which stooge would you be?”

He’s more of a Schemp than a Moe.

by Anonymousreply 2004/14/2019

The intel committee is legally entitled to the report, not all the grand jury testimony. That's one reason Rep Schiff has been vilified by trump. Barr refuses to give it to the committee.

by Anonymousreply 2104/14/2019
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