Why can't the Dems get the report directly from Mueller?

because it's the AG's job and he's got to redact anything that's illegal to be presented to the congress

Nothing needs to be redacted to certain members of congress. Only need to redact it for the public.

Roger Stone wants his lawyer to see it. But not you.

R2 Except, Congress leaks like a sieve. And, certain aspects of grand jury proceedings have to be redacted even from Congress.

the only reason the Democrats want to see the report is so the can leak anything they can that will hurt Trump, just like his tax returns

The Dems will wait for Barr’s version. After, they’ll call on Mueller to verify it’s accuracy.

So r5, Trump shouldn't have done all that dirty shit if he didn't want people finding out about it.

[R7] you think the Democrats in Congress are so clean when it comes to their tax returns?

Trump forces Sessions to resign because Sessions won't guarantee him that he will bury the Mueller report. Trump puts in Barr who will cover anything up for Trump. Meuller report gots to AG, Barr claims no evidence of collusion. Redacts the report and sends it to Congress. Remember the Starr report on Clinton? That was released in full.

Mueller is said to be a follower of laws and traditions. His rules drawn up before he was appointed, says he is suppose to give his report to the Attorney General so that is what he has done. Democrats can call Mueller to testify and subpoena his report unredacted but the Attorney General will probably fight the congress and refuse. The matter will end up in the courts which will take years, just what Trump wants to drag all this out until after the 2020 election.

Releasing Grand Jury testimony without a court order allowing it is a felony, Mueller would be committing a felony to release his report to any but the AG.

"The only reason the Democrats want to see the report is so the can leak anything they can that will hurt Trump, just like his tax returns"

Aww, let's not 'hurt' Trump.

If his taxes reveal money laundering and/or Russia wheelin' and dealin'... if the Mueller report is more damaging than just "no collusion"... he doesn't need to be our President anymore.

Thank you all for taking the time to educate. It makes sense now. I see that i need to be more patient as protocol plays out.

R9 Kenn Starr served under the Ethics in Government act, which required a report to be released in full, so he wrote his report in such a way that it would be permissible to be released. Mueller operated under an entirely separate set of rules, his report was only meant to be released to the AG, who can then release a report to Congress.

r13 Trump himself said to release it in full - he only said that because he knew his man would cover it up.

R14 only someone as deluded as you would call a man with Bill Barr's reputation Trump's "man."

Look, the Mueller report isn't going to do much. We have to focus on Trump's moral decay: the affairs, the pay-offs, the financial shenanigans (Russian and otherwise), the conflicts of interest... these are what is going to bring him down.

His addiction to pussy will be his unravelling (poetic justice).

Mueller works for the AG, legally. Everything goes through Rosenstein, who was legally in charge as Deputy AG until his resignation. With Barr’s confirmation, he’s in charge until a Deputy AG is named to replace Rosenstein.

It’s going to be a court fight. While nominally independent, Justice is an executive branch department which means it’s under the authority of the President -except when it’s investigating the President. This winds up in federal court which is independent of the Executive Branch and can compel the President along with his minions.

For now, the working product are not only Executive Office paper and subject to the authority of the President, but they also contain a large volume of Grand Jury evidence and testimony. While this can be released to Congress, there is a legal procedure for it; it cannot be publicly released. No grand jury evidence and testimony can.

Some people bring up Ken Starr and Watergate and think its comparable. They aren’t: the special counsel law that created an independent counsel expired. As an investigator, Mueller worked under the authority of the AG with a defined scope. He doesn’t have the autonomy for perpetual fishing expeditions that went nowhere like Starr’s did. On the other hand, Mueller actually has convictions - and not just two hillbillies. He got a lot of serious players and indicted a lot of Russians, totally blowing up Republicans claim of “no collusion”

Republicans can huff and puff but they know that refusing to obey an order from a federal court judge risks contempt and those are the kinds of charges that can put them in jail and potentially lead to disbarment, criminal indictment and serious prison time. Nobody’s taking the fall for Trump: the lack of loyalty by his lackeys has proved that.

This will wind up in the Supreme Court, who will probably split on this and permit parts to go to Congress and the Presidency to retain control over the working papers within reason.

[quote][R14] only someone as deluded as you would call a man with Bill Barr's reputation Trump's "man”.

Okay, Trump’s bitch.

R18, “stooge” also works. That’s Barr’s reputation, he’s a stooge and a hack. The memo he wrote auditioning for the AG job was dreadful.

R19. Like a Barbara Walters question? “If you were a stooge, which stooge would you be?”

He’s more of a Schemp than a Moe.

The intel committee is legally entitled to the report, not all the grand jury testimony. That's one reason Rep Schiff has been vilified by trump. Barr refuses to give it to the committee.