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Prince William’s Lawyer Tries to Suppress Rumors of Affair

Don't let this scandal die. We need a good royal ruckus.

by Anonymousreply 24520 hours ago

Meghan Markle LEAKED Affair Between Prince William & Rose Hanbury?

by Anonymousreply 1Last Saturday at 1:40 PM

Royal lawyers issue warning over rumors of Prince William affair with Marchioness of Cholmondeley

by Anonymousreply 2Last Saturday at 1:43 PM

It's good to be da King, or at least second in line.

by Anonymousreply 3Last Saturday at 1:47 PM

It would be really interesting if William is really having an affair with the Marchioness of Cholmondeley--it would be like his father neglecting his much prettier wife to have an affair with a plainer woman. Rose Cholmondeley is a former model, but anyone can see Kate is much prettier.

by Anonymousreply 4Last Saturday at 1:53 PM

Well she's screwing SOMEONE.

by Anonymousreply 5Last Saturday at 1:53 PM

This is par for the course among the royals. Kate is a sensible and pragmatic woman, not a borderline personality disordered hysteric like Diana .I'm sure she'll manage just fine.

by Anonymousreply 6Last Saturday at 1:59 PM

Here is a photo of William and Kate with the Cholmondeleys.

David, the Marquess of Choldmondeley, was handsome when he was younger, but now he looks very dowdy and geeky as he has become older (he's close to sixty). He also looks very skinny.

by Anonymousreply 7Last Saturday at 2:00 PM

David Cholmondeley in 1992, when he was young and handsome.

by Anonymousreply 8Last Saturday at 2:01 PM

R8 has a loose definition of handsome.

by Anonymousreply 9Last Saturday at 2:06 PM

...Well, when he was younger.

by Anonymousreply 10Last Saturday at 2:06 PM

I had taken it for granted that princes have affairs. Prince Charles had a longtime well-publicized affair, Prince Philip had extramarital dalliances, I'd be surprised if King George VI, Queen Elizabeth's father, and King Edward VIII her uncle didn't. It's as natural as sneezing.

by Anonymousreply 11Last Saturday at 2:06 PM

Well he must have some libido.

by Anonymousreply 12Last Saturday at 2:07 PM

We know https://www.datalounge.com/thread/22497953

by Anonymousreply 13Last Saturday at 2:08 PM

I'm no royalist but I highly doubt William would do this. He knows how his dad got panned for screwing around on his mother, it just doesn't seem worth it. I could be wrong though.

by Anonymousreply 14Last Saturday at 2:08 PM

You are.

by Anonymousreply 15Last Saturday at 2:10 PM

I don't think he ever passionately loved Kate. But William is such a loser bore.

by Anonymousreply 16Last Saturday at 2:14 PM

Why is Kate wearing a head of lettuce pinned to her dress in OP’s pic?

by Anonymousreply 17Last Saturday at 2:16 PM

it looks more like alfalfa

by Anonymousreply 18Last Saturday at 2:17 PM

R17 It was St Patrick’s day. She hands out shamrocks to the mascot of the Irish Guards and wears them herself pinned to her dress. It’s a tradition.

by Anonymousreply 19Last Saturday at 2:21 PM

The Marquess and Marchioness of Cholmondeley have a nicer house than Will and Kate.

by Anonymousreply 20Last Saturday at 2:29 PM

I doubt that George VI ever had an affair, he was a nervous stammering insecure person who adored his wife.

by Anonymousreply 21Last Saturday at 2:35 PM

'house'

by Anonymousreply 22Last Saturday at 2:36 PM

I always think of puppets when I hear Marchioness.

by Anonymousreply 23Last Saturday at 2:41 PM

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by Anonymousreply 24Last Saturday at 2:45 PM

I thought William would be above this kind of stuff, considering his history...

by Anonymousreply 25Last Saturday at 3:07 PM

Neither George VI nor his father George V, the current queen's father and grandfather, had affairs. They were too uptight.

I agree it would be really unlikely for either William or Harry to cheat on their wives, since they know how miserable their father's cheating made their mother, whom they are both obsessed with.

by Anonymousreply 26Last Saturday at 3:09 PM

[quote] I agree it would be really unlikely for either William or Harry to cheat on their wives, since they know how miserable their father's cheating made their mother, whom they are both obsessed with.

Respectfully, that's just not how it works. Children grow up seeing their parents do all kinds of things (abuse drugs, hit their spouses, abuse their children, etc.). Yet, children repeat the same pattern (as their parents) rather than break the cycle.

by Anonymousreply 27Last Saturday at 3:17 PM

Well big whoopdedoo and quelle surprise. Those royals is all whores.

by Anonymousreply 28Last Saturday at 3:18 PM

R17 because her carrot, kale, and turnip pins were at the cleaner's.

by Anonymousreply 29Last Saturday at 3:23 PM

Men and women aren't monogamous.

Yes, Frauen, your man, too.

by Anonymousreply 30Last Saturday at 3:25 PM

Yup, Della...doesn’t matter what made them miserable when they were young. If anything, that draws them back to the trough.

by Anonymousreply 31Last Saturday at 3:26 PM

It's true that many people aren't monogamous.

But many people are.

by Anonymousreply 32Last Saturday at 3:27 PM

I say thee nay!

by Anonymousreply 33Last Saturday at 3:30 PM

Well Kate went and got all loosey "down there" from poppin' out all those wee bairns. What did the common frump expect?

by Anonymousreply 34Last Saturday at 3:31 PM

[quote]I agree it would be really unlikely for either William or Harry to cheat on their wives, since they know how miserable their father's cheating made their mother, whom they are both obsessed with.

It's true that William & Harry grew up with domestic discord between their parents, but that doesn't mean that biology and natural sexual urges won't take over sometimes.

They both have access to a lot of pussy, and it may be tough for them to resist it.

by Anonymousreply 35Last Saturday at 3:42 PM

Ordinarily I would be a pearlclutcher, but his wife has been pregnant for 7 years, so...

by Anonymousreply 36Last Saturday at 4:22 PM

I thought, while a bachelor, George VI had an affair with a married woman before he became king. His father asked him to break it off and he acquiesced.

by Anonymousreply 37Last Saturday at 4:22 PM

[quote]I thought William would be above this kind of stuff, considering his history...

No one is exempt from sex.

by Anonymousreply 38Last Saturday at 4:24 PM

William didn't get as much pussy as me before he got married, so he's trying to make up for it now.

by Anonymousreply 39Last Saturday at 4:24 PM

Well, if it's all over the net, the lawyer hasn't done a very good job of suppressing it.

by Anonymousreply 40Last Saturday at 4:24 PM

This affair and trying to squelch it is the reason that Harry and Markle are gossiped about and disliked. The bad press the Sussexes are getting are meant to distract from William's affair. And that's why the boys have split. Harry is pissed with William now that the Sussexes have to take the heat in the press--just so people don't pay attention to William's sex on the side.

by Anonymousreply 41Last Saturday at 4:35 PM

Kate is anorexic. Way too thin and wan. Something is wrong in that household. If not cheating, then she’s trying to make Meghan jealous by being stick thin. I’ll take the healthy looking Meg any day.

by Anonymousreply 42Last Saturday at 4:49 PM

I wonder if Kaiser and the readers of Celebitchy are masturbating furiously to this news. They all fantasize that she is Evil Incarnate.

by Anonymousreply 43Last Saturday at 4:55 PM

William is jealous that he never got to do stuff like this:

by Anonymousreply 44Last Saturday at 5:02 PM

That Rose lady seems way too interesting and fabulous to have an affiar with boring dorky William

by Anonymousreply 45Last Saturday at 5:06 PM

Rose looks like a slightly glammed up Heather Matarrazo

by Anonymousreply 46Last Saturday at 5:10 PM

What kind of model was she--a [italic]hand[/italic] model?

by Anonymousreply 47Last Saturday at 5:24 PM

Rose was born with a proper title; something Kate was not: the Marchioness of Cholmondeley.

by Anonymousreply 48Last Saturday at 5:50 PM

All those dames look like hungry rabbits.

by Anonymousreply 49Last Saturday at 6:06 PM

No, R48, she wasn’t born with a title. Don’t make stuff up, it just makes you look stupid.

“Stupider”, I mean.

She was born Miss Rose Hanbury. She married a man with a title ( Marquess of Cholmondeley) and as such derives her title from her husband.

You yanks need to either get it right or shut the fuck up when offering your opinion on the British aristocracy or royalty.

by Anonymousreply 50Last Saturday at 6:22 PM

^^ Yawn . . .

by Anonymousreply 51Last Saturday at 6:24 PM

I wonder if R50 has even the slightest idea of how little we care about the royal leeches. And we saved your fucking bacon in WW2.

by Anonymousreply 52Last Saturday at 6:46 PM

For the second time in 25 years, R52...

by Anonymousreply 53Last Saturday at 6:59 PM

[quote]All those dames look like hungry rabbits. —Miss Caswell

Better than looking like a rodent.

by Anonymousreply 54Last Saturday at 8:58 PM

William has always been kind of boring.

He was cute when he was younger and had a full head of hair, but Harry has always seemed like he would be more fun in bed.

by Anonymousreply 55Last Saturday at 9:06 PM

Judging from r48’s picture, I’d say a hand model.

by Anonymousreply 56Last Saturday at 9:09 PM

Shouldn't the husband be a 'Marquis' instead of an -ess anything? Is her husband trans?

by Anonymousreply 57Last Saturday at 9:12 PM

Any yet you read through 51 posts, R52, on a subject about which you profess to care so little...

And you assume that it was my bacon that “you” saved, or your forebears participated in saving, along with a whole bunch of other countries. Which it wasn’t.

But well done in responding like a stereotypical American!

by Anonymousreply 58Last Saturday at 9:17 PM

R8 He looks, well you know, Jewish.

by Anonymousreply 59Last Saturday at 9:21 PM

He is Jewish.

Probably put his lovely cut cock into many men.

by Anonymousreply 60Last Saturday at 9:24 PM

He’s of Jewish descent, R59. He speaks of it in interviews - his grandmother was the heiress Sybil Sassoon, who brought a lot of much needed funds into the family when she married his grandfather. She was from the French branch of the Rothschild family.

by Anonymousreply 61Last Saturday at 9:28 PM

No, R57. The Marquess of Cholmondeley is not “trans”.

FYI different countries have different ways of spelling words. That’s because different countries have different “languages”. In England, the people speak “English”. In France, the people speak “French”.

In English, the male title holder is the “Marquess”. His wife is the “Marchioness”.

In French, the male title holder is the “Marquis”. His wife is the “Marquise”.

Hope that helps!

by Anonymousreply 62Last Saturday at 10:18 PM

#44's pic is why Elizabeth summoned Harry to her throne and said: "Get a wife, get her pregnant and get it together!"

by Anonymousreply 63Last Sunday at 6:38 AM

R63, that may be true but it didn’t quite work immediately. He got engaged five years later after Vegas.

by Anonymousreply 64Last Sunday at 6:45 AM

[QUOTE]And you assume that it was my bacon that “you” saved, or your forebears participated in saving, along with a whole bunch of other countries.

Give me a break. America saved the world from Hitler, not a “whole bunch of other countries.” Don’t even think about diminishing our role in the war.

by Anonymousreply 65Last Sunday at 7:18 AM
by Anonymousreply 66Last Sunday at 7:24 AM

You mean like the way we broke Enigma, R65?

by Anonymousreply 67Last Sunday at 7:30 AM

Is there going to be another British Royal Family Gossip thread?

by Anonymousreply 68Last Sunday at 7:36 AM

R7/R8 is correct. A quarter century ago the Marquess of Cholmondeley had sensual potential and quasi-regal potency. Now he has become a grinning, complaisant cuckold of a scarecrow rattling around that house while the balding, horse-faced heir to the throne finishes off in his wife.

by Anonymousreply 69Last Sunday at 7:36 AM

Who’s “we,” R67?

by Anonymousreply 70Last Sunday at 7:38 AM

I didn't raise him to bring such shame to his wife.

by Anonymousreply 71Last Sunday at 7:39 AM

Now I really want to get a license plate with "MARCHIONESS" printed on it

by Anonymousreply 72Last Sunday at 7:42 AM

So the press is reporting on his lawyers suppressing the affair in the news by reporting how his lawyers are suppressing the affair in the news. Mkay.

by Anonymousreply 73Last Sunday at 7:44 AM

Actually, WW2 ended more so on both fronts because of Russia's efforts, not ours. Particularly in Japan. Many mistakenly have the belief that Japan surrendered due to Nagasaki and Hiroshima. No. The Russians were coming and the Japanese were well aware of how savage their forces were in Europe. That is what finally convinced them to surrender.

by Anonymousreply 74Last Sunday at 7:45 AM

David Cholmondeley hung around Andy Warhol and the Factory in the early 1980s and was well-known to be bi.

by Anonymousreply 75Last Sunday at 7:47 AM

R74 = the biggest bunch of bullshit I ever read.

by Anonymousreply 76Last Sunday at 7:53 AM

R74 Total horseshit.

by Anonymousreply 77Last Sunday at 7:56 AM

Shouldn't you be at Breitbart, r77?

by Anonymousreply 78Last Sunday at 8:02 AM

Only a moron would deny the importance of the Soviet Union in defeating Hitler. They lost 24 million people in the war, about 50 times the US losses. Of course they started out by allying with the Nazis to divide up Poland and free Germany to focus on the west, but Hitler got greedy.

by Anonymousreply 79Last Sunday at 8:05 AM

R67, Enigma was broken in 1941, two years after the war started and four years before it ended. It would have been a very LONG four years for years for England if the U.S. hadn't come to its aid.

by Anonymousreply 80Last Sunday at 8:14 AM

The question remains, "Will the Duke of Cambridge heed the request by the Duchess of Cambridge to 'phase out' his main squeeze on the side, the Marchioness of Cholmondeley?

Title only. No names, please.

Their children are playmates. I'm sure it is all just an unfortunate misunderstanding by the duchess. By the way, "Marchioness of Cholmondeley" sounds much more regal and aristocratic than "Duchess of Cambridge."

by Anonymousreply 81Last Sunday at 8:22 AM

[quote] Shouldn't the husband be a 'Marquis' instead of an -ess anything?

No. Some holders of marquessates in the UK take the title of "Marquis," and some take the title of "Marquess." They are pronounced identically, only spelled differently, depending on the custom when the marquessate was created.

by Anonymousreply 82Last Sunday at 8:24 AM

America came into the first world war two and half years after it started. It came into the second world war at the end of 1941... again about two years since the start of hostilities.

So let's recall the Winston Churchill quote: You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else

by Anonymousreply 83Last Sunday at 8:25 AM

[quote]By the way, "Marchioness of Cholmondeley" sounds much more regal and aristocratic than "Duchess of Cambridge."

No, it doesn't at all. The title of an ordinary duchess outranks a marchioness, and a royal duchess's title outranks that of an ordinary duchess.

Some of you are just pulling things out of your asses.

by Anonymousreply 84Last Sunday at 8:25 AM

[quote] Now I really want to get a license plate with "MARCHIONESS" printed on it

That would be too many letters.

by Anonymousreply 85Last Sunday at 8:26 AM

Well, it had to happen sooner or later...

by Anonymousreply 86Last Sunday at 8:27 AM

Further to R80: Enigma was broken thanks in large part to the contributions of Alan Turing, an English mathematician, computer scientist, logician, cryptanalyst, philosopher and theoretical biologist.

During the Second World War, Turing worked for the Government Code and Cypher School (GC&CS) at Bletchley Park, Britain's codebreaking centre that produced Ultra intelligence. For a time he led Hut 8, the section that was responsible for German naval cryptanalysis. Here, he devised a number of techniques for speeding the breaking of German ciphers, including improvements to the pre-war Polish bombe method, an electromechanical machine that could find settings for the Enigma machine.

Turing played a pivotal role in cracking intercepted coded messages that enabled the Allies to defeat the Nazis in many crucial engagements, including the Battle of the Atlantic, and in so doing helped win the war. Counterfactual history is difficult with respect to the effect Ultra intelligence had on the length of the war, but at the upper end it has been estimated that this work shortened the war in Europe by more than two years and saved over 14 million lives.

And how did the British government thank him for his efforts to shorten the war and save millions of lives?

Turing was prosecuted in 1952 for homosexual acts as the Labouchere Amendment had mandated that "gross indecency" was a criminal offence in the UK. He accepted chemical castration treatment, with DES, as an alternative to prison. Turing died in 1954, 16 days before his 42nd birthday, from cyanide poisoning. An inquest determined his death as a suicide, but it has been noted that the known evidence is also consistent with accidental poisoning.

Forty-five years after his death, British Prime Minister Gordon Brown made an official public apology on behalf of the British government for "the appalling way he was treated."

Not that it did Turing much good.

by Anonymousreply 87Last Sunday at 8:39 AM

^^ Great story, I had never heard that

by Anonymousreply 88Last Sunday at 9:46 AM

If he is straying in Kate's shoes I'd just get me a bit of hot bodyguard action to even up the score. It's not like he's going to divorce her.

by Anonymousreply 89Last Sunday at 9:51 AM

R87, why am I supposed to care about your post? You do know that a movie was made about Turing, right? He's not some obscure figure.

by Anonymousreply 90Last Sunday at 10:00 AM

Maybe the marchioness like the uncut cock.

by Anonymousreply 91Last Sunday at 10:30 AM

The marchioness loves Will's intact cock. The problem is Kate wants it too without it resulting in another kid.

by Anonymousreply 92Last Sunday at 10:38 AM

Jesus. Listen the Soviet Union declared war on Japan after Germany was defeated. They only fought on one front, and one enemy. Not like the US at all. Germany needed Soviet oil and so, invaded.

The Soviets defended their country, that's where the death count comes in. not from fighting for other countries. In other words, US is fighting an ofensive war, USSR a defensive one. They did not fight the war in the pacific. Then, Stalin thought, yes, let's grab territory. And entered the pacific theater way late.

Yes, the USSR, US, France, UK were allies.

For the record we put Nazis on trial at the end of WW2. Crimes against humanity and genocide. Nazis are bad people.

Back to this mess. The side piece and Kate look similar. Same build, hair. Same social standing. I think that's interesting. Have there been other cheating rumors about Will?

by Anonymousreply 93Last Sunday at 10:39 AM

R90: I do know that at least three movies, not one as you mention, have been made about Turing: Breaking the Code in 1996, Codebreaker in 2013, and The Imitation Game in 2014. Another three, 2000's U-571, 2001's Enigma, and 2001's All the Queen's Men dealt primarily with obtaining the Enigma machines, but of these three only the film Enigma deals with Bletchley Park and Turing in any detail. The third, All the Queen's Men, is unsurprisingly execrable, understandably as Matt LeBlanc and Eddie Izzard are the leads. In drag.

If you've seen The Imitation Game and relied on it as an accurate portrayal you'd be misinformed as Turing and the team at Bletchley were not the first to break the Enigma code; that had been done years before, starting in 1927, by the Polish Army's Cipher Bureau. While much credit is due Turing - far more than he received from the British government during his lifetime - at least as much or more is due the Poles whose contribution is accorded exactly one sentence in the film. It's said that when The Imitation Game was first shown in Warsaw, a hush fell over the crowd in the theatre when they realized that was all the credit the Polish contribution was going to get. See the story below from The Telegraph several years ago.

And, "No," I don't trouble myself by wondering why anyone, let alone you - whoever you are - cares about something I post. It's an anonymous board. I can't imagine why you'd ask if I do, though. I am, of course, happy to provide accurate information as noted by R88: "Great story. I had never heard that." Making me think perhaps not everyone is familiar with the story.

by Anonymousreply 94Last Sunday at 10:58 AM

r74 is correct.

r93, Hitler had 3/4 of his military on the Eastern Front: Russia.

I know us Americans don't like it when our self-invented "exceptionalism" is challenged but, to know that Russia earned, at the cost of millions of lives, to lion's share of the credit for defeating Hitler doesn't take away from what Americans and other Allied did.

by Anonymousreply 95Last Sunday at 11:04 AM

R94, I'm not relying on movies for anything. I'm just trying to figure out why you brought my initial post into it and then act like Turing is some obscure historical figure especially on a gay board. .

by Anonymousreply 96Last Sunday at 11:12 AM

[quote]The marchioness loves Will's intact cock. The problem is Kate wants it too without it resulting in another kid.

Why can't they just share? One on each side.

by Anonymousreply 97Last Sunday at 11:12 AM

[quote] FYI different countries have different ways of spelling words. That’s because different countries have different “languages”. In England, the people speak “English”. In France, the people speak “French”. In English, the male title holder is the “Marquess”. His wife is the “Marchioness”.In French, the male title holder is the “Marquis”. His wife is the “Marquise”.

The use of "marchioness" was rare in England until the Stuart times. The wife of a Marquis was known as "The Lady Marquis of...." One of the few women who received a Marquessate in her own right was known as "The Lady Marquis of Pembroke". Over time, more and more marquises opted to use the spelling of "marquess". It wasn't until Queen Victoria's time that "marquess" became the standard, although in Scotland "marquis" was still being used by some peers as late as World War I.

When members of the British Royal Family gave up German titles during the First World War, Queen Mary's youngest brother, Prince Alexander of Teck was offered the title of Marquess of Athlone (Athlone was an Irish territorial designation as Ireland was still part of the UK then) in compensation for his lost German princely title. Alexander turned his nose up at it saying that "marquess" sounded French and that he would prefer to made an earl. So, Earl of Athlone it was.

by Anonymousreply 98Last Sunday at 11:24 AM

R96 Are you also R67?

If so, re-read what you wrote, "You mean like the way [bold]we[/bold] broke Enigma" in response to R65's "Give me a break. America saved the world from Hitler, not a “whole bunch of other countries.” Don’t even think about diminishing our role in the war."

Then re-read what I wrote. Unless you're Polish, your "we" - presumably Turing and Company at Bletchley Park - were not the first to break the Enigma code. The Poles were.

by Anonymousreply 99Last Sunday at 11:24 AM

R95 sweetie, I know we Americans used to read books.

To review: the USSR fought a defensive war with one other country.

The US fought an offensive war that was global in scale,

It's terrible thousands of Soviet civilians and soldiers died defending their homeland.

It's also terrible Stalin made a pack with Germany to invade Poland in the first fucking place.

It's also terrible Stalin purged his military staff so that the Soviets had no military command on the ground when the Germans invaded, leading to the above mentioned death of thousands.

So, yes, if you want to credit the unnecessary death of thousands of people has "helpful" in stopping a German advance great.

Now, do we think Will has had other side pieces?

by Anonymousreply 100Last Sunday at 11:25 AM

No, r99, I did not post at r67. Again, not sure why I'm on the receiving end of your lecture.

by Anonymousreply 101Last Sunday at 11:27 AM

What was your initial post?

by Anonymousreply 102Last Sunday at 11:58 AM

Bye, r102.

by Anonymousreply 103Last Sunday at 12:04 PM

Enough with the Enigma. We're talking about a royal scandal here. William cheated. Kate wants Rose "phased out." Wow. Why isn't she demanding that the other woman Rose be cut off? "Phased out?" That's kind of odd and rather tolerant aimed at a women she wants banished from Williams's life.

Enigma people...get your own thread.

by Anonymousreply 104Last Sunday at 12:10 PM

Enigma PERSON, r104. I didn't want to be on the receiving end of some Aspie's lecture on Turing.

by Anonymousreply 105Last Sunday at 12:12 PM

He also wants to fuck Meghan. Lol, William is a sneaky bitch, watch that cunt when he's not talking. Sneaky as hellllllll with a wondering eye.

by Anonymousreply 106Last Sunday at 12:15 PM

William look good in leather shorts.

by Anonymousreply 107Last Sunday at 12:16 PM

Marchioness! Marchioness! Marchioness!

by Anonymousreply 108Last Sunday at 12:17 PM

R105, I can't seem to post it, but cosmo has an article that addresses the phasing out language. No one knows what happened and Kate is upset that "phasing out" was used in the sun article. Due to libel laws, the press won't speculate. Delicious. I think there's more side pieces.

by Anonymousreply 109Last Sunday at 12:20 PM

Kate wants Rose "phased out." That's terribly polite. Why doesn't she tell William to knock it the fuck off immediately or get the hell out?

Phased out sounds like she's going to finish up the last of the soup even though she doesn't care for it. And then next time she's at the grocery store she'll pick up a couple of cans of old reliable chicken noodle.

by Anonymousreply 110Last Sunday at 1:05 PM

Marquess is my new Grindr name.

Marchioness is my new drag name.

by Anonymousreply 111Last Sunday at 1:06 PM

[quote]Kate is upset that "phasing out" was used in the sun article.

I haven't heard that. Here's what [italic]Vanity Fair France[/italic] writes regarding the rumours

[quote][bold]Not the first time.[/bold] VF France says “it’s not the first time” William and Kate have faced these kinds of rumors but with the Rose Hanbury situation, the Cambridges “seem shaken and destabilized.”

[quote][bold]The Cholmondeleys were cut off[/bold] VF France theorizes that the rumors basically started because Kate completely cut off the Cholmondeleys and asked the Turnip Toffs to do the same without explanation, and that’s why there’s been so much gossip within the Toff set. The Sun apparently “received a warning from the Palace in attempt to shut down the story.” But: “This infidelity is supposedly an open secret waiting to be spread on the public place.”

If Kate did move against the Cholmondeleys, it is a stupid move. Neither Will nor the Turnip Toffs are going to follow. If anyone is cut off, it's going to be Kate. She gains nothing by having the affair public; her best bet to wait it out. OTOH, Rose leaked that she doesn't care what is out there.

by Anonymousreply 112Last Sunday at 2:02 PM

No, R99, I was attempting sarcasm - I despise thoughtless American exceptionalism.

by Anonymousreply 113Last Sunday at 2:11 PM

The "phase out" phrasing is part of the attempt at a cover up.

by Anonymousreply 114Last Sunday at 2:21 PM

R122, thanks for the clarification. Palace intrigue, love it. How will Kate play her card? She waited years for the ring.

by Anonymousreply 115Last Sunday at 2:23 PM

"[italic]Pack[/italic]," R100?

by Anonymousreply 116Last Sunday at 2:40 PM

He's a good boy is our WIlliam.

by Anonymousreply 117Last Sunday at 2:43 PM

r115 I don't know. [bold]Kate is very vulnerable, she's done her duty and is expendable.[/bold] Charles proved you can discard one wife, pick up another, and everyone eventually accepts it.

My thinking is that [bold]Kate is not filing for divorce, putting the ball in William's court.[/bold] She'll make it obvious that he is discarding her for slutty Rose. I don't know if Will, a man who always takes the path of least resistance, files for divorce.

[bold]Rose is the wildcard.[/bold] Does she continue to leak stories to the press? Does she arrange to be papped w/Will? With William's consent, [bold]she can make it super uncomfortable for Kate - both within the Turnip set and in the press. [/bold]

Another thing - even before the "phase out" articles, [bold]increasingly negative articles about the Middletons (esp Carole) began appearing. IMO, there is [bold]blood in the water re Kate & Midds, they are no longer under William's protection.[/bold] In fact, the anti-Midd articles are more problematic than the Rose affair. We don't know anything about Rose & Will - but it's been a long time since the Midds have been treated negatively in the press.

So, if Will wants to be rid of Kate, he will increase the heat on her and her family. He may not marry Rose. He, already has the kids, he can return to bachelor days w/photo ops with the children every so often.

[bold]William does not respect Kate,[/bold] has been thoughtlessly cruel to her before, and is capable of anything.

by Anonymousreply 118Last Sunday at 2:46 PM

That Rose woman is positively deformed.

Was she modelling for the blind?

by Anonymousreply 119Last Sunday at 2:49 PM

R118, who do you think has incentive for all these nasty stories now coming out? Hmm. I have a guess it involves a an ex-D List actress and her slimy PR agency.

by Anonymousreply 120Last Sunday at 2:51 PM

My favorite Marchioness is Lady Edith, Marchioness of Hexum.

by Anonymousreply 121Last Sunday at 3:02 PM

Kate Middleton is such a basic bitch as far as the Tatler set goes. Of course he got tired of that.

by Anonymousreply 122Last Sunday at 3:10 PM

You people need to realise that this is the British Royal Family, not “Survivor: Lochnagar”.

by Anonymousreply 123Last Sunday at 3:12 PM

The side chick looks like Eleanor Roosevelt.

by Anonymousreply 124Last Sunday at 3:15 PM

[quote]Well, it had to happen sooner or later...

What? That Godwin's Law was fulfilled or that the second in line to the throne is allegedly having an affair?

by Anonymousreply 125Last Sunday at 3:16 PM

He's not going anywhere. Men have affairs and never leave their wives. I have no doubt that Kate will be Queen.

by Anonymousreply 126Last Sunday at 3:22 PM

The thing with Kate is that she doesn't seem to have many interests or passions for different causes except for breeding. It's not like she's a notable patron of arts, championing social or environmental causes, whereas the women from that set usually have those interests and have something to talk about even if they will never work a day in the rest of their lives. That's what I meant when I characterized her as "basic."

by Anonymousreply 127Last Sunday at 3:31 PM

r120 - I agree with [italic]Vanity Fair France[/italic] and other French publications (Public) on how this developed.

1 - Will & Rose begin a relationship. 2 - Rose brags about it to Will's friends. The story spreads to all the Turnips and then beyond. 2 - Kate finds out, asks the Turnips to cut Rose off. (Something that will not happen, because Rose & Will are natural members of their set, Kate is an interloper.) 4 - The Turnips retaliate by letting the press get wind of it. Rose refuses to deny it.

Rose has the incentive. She already humiliated Kate among the Turnips, let it spread to other groups; so, of course, when Kate responds, she all the incentive to continue humiliating her in the press.

Not so much b/c it is Rose's interest, but b/c it is so damaging to Kate's position. I wonder if Will gave tacit approval.

Meghan has her own problems; I can't imagine after all the bennies the BRF have denied her (jewelry, KP apt, separate press office, frog house) that she pokes that hornet's nest. Meghan (IMO rightly so) is looking to monetize her position so that she can leave whenever she wants.

by Anonymousreply 128Last Sunday at 3:46 PM

You’re a member of their set, R128, are you? You seem quite familiar with them.

Or did you just read something in an article that quoted an article that was originally in Vanity Fair France?

by Anonymousreply 129Last Sunday at 3:55 PM

[quote]2 - Rose brags about it to Will's friends. The story spreads to all the Turnips and then beyond.

If William is as fiercely protective of his privacy as we have been led to believe, and if there was an affair, Rose committed a cardinal sin in his book by blabbing to friends., who blabbed to others, etc. to the point that the "whispers" would reach the press. This is a man who purportedly drops false details in conversations to see if it gets back to him or is leaked to the press. Talking indiscreetly would be enough for William to cut her off on his own without any intercession from his wife.

by Anonymousreply 130Last Sunday at 3:56 PM

Prince William likes to fuck. And so?

by Anonymousreply 131Last Sunday at 4:05 PM

R128 You have no idea how the aristocracy works. I saw it best described by the writer Jilly Cooper, who said that their attitude is (paraphrasing): marry well and produce an heir at all costs, then do what you like. Which neatly explains the sexual proclivities of the upper classes, and why they are relaxed about affairs, dodgy parentage issues with younger children and gay men marrying women, having an heir then carrying on as ever.

It’s only when those of us from the lower orders look at their behaviour through our own suburban lens that we get confused, disbelieving or outraged. It has always been thus and always will. R131 - you got it in one!

by Anonymousreply 132Last Sunday at 4:12 PM

r129 I am not a Turnip, I have a work mate in London who … well not a Turnip, but some type of vegetable. He confirmed that there was some trouble, didn't know details.

r130 That is the whole point isn't it. Why didn't Will cut Rose out? In the French press, she is identified as the one who spread the story to his friends. She seeded to the clouds so the press got hold of it. Moreover, the initial threats of lawsuits state that both families would go to the lawyers. The second threat (implemented) mentioned that "Rose has a wild side and doesn't care what's out there." Hmmm.

r132 I know how the British aristocracy works. That is what makes this story so strange. By all expectations, Kate would look the other way.

So the rumors start, Will doesn't cut Rose off, Kate insists. Odd sequence of events. I wonder what is going on? IMO - they want Kate to file for divorce. Why, who knows? Within whatever boundaries Will & Kate established for their marriage, this one crossed it.

by Anonymousreply 133Last Sunday at 4:29 PM

R133 Well of course you’re not a “turnip” - if you were, you’d realise that the last thing that members of any upper class set would be to use a name invented by the Daily Mail.

“Turnip toffs” FFS! Daily Mail bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 134Last Sunday at 4:33 PM

r134 - They call themselves that. Their form of wittiness.

by Anonymousreply 135Last Sunday at 4:42 PM

[quote]That is the whole point isn't it. Why didn't Will cut Rose out?

How do we know that he has or hasn't cut her off? Or that if Kate really delivered an ultimatum? Because William would run to Rose and say that his wife has given him an ultimatum and then she went to her friends and repeated the whole process? Does this no sound odd?

by Anonymousreply 136Last Sunday at 4:44 PM

What does “Turnip” mean?

by Anonymousreply 137Last Sunday at 4:47 PM

Does William have game? Does his willie get big?

by Anonymousreply 138Last Sunday at 4:48 PM

Norfolk, the county where they all live, is largely agricultural... toffs are posh people... so somebody conjured up Turnip Toffs to define the Norfolk crowd.

by Anonymousreply 139Last Sunday at 4:49 PM

Yes, R139 - some lazy hack in the Daily Mail invented it after a few pints at lunchtime. It’s what they do. They also invented “Her Royal Hotness” for Pippa Middleton at the time of her sister’s wedding. Didn’t take off. It’s what Daily Mail “journalists” do. Sometimes it gets picked up, sometimes it doesn’t.

by Anonymousreply 140Last Sunday at 4:53 PM

>How do we know that he has or hasn't cut her off? Or that if Kate really delivered an ultimatum? Because William would run to Rose and say that his wife has given him an ultimatum and then she went to her friends and repeated the whole process? Does this no sound odd?

We don't. And, yes, it sounds so odd.

The French press stated that Rose started the rumors. They stated that Kate wanted to cut Rose out. No one has said Will actually cut her off. There is more to this story!

by Anonymousreply 141Last Sunday at 4:54 PM

Will and Kate haven’t been seen in a while. Is that a coincidence? We’re appearences cancelled?

by Anonymousreply 142Last Sunday at 4:59 PM

[quote] My favorite Marchioness is Lady Edith, Marchioness of Hexum.

I cried when her husband, Jon-Erik died.

by Anonymousreply 143Last Sunday at 5:09 PM

R142 They were seen yesterday with their cousins the Tindalls. They have had no official engagements as it’s school holidays in the UK and they tend to stay at home with their children at these times, or go on holiday with them.

Like all conspiracy theorists you are looking for something which isn’t there.

by Anonymousreply 144Last Sunday at 5:13 PM

[quote]We’re appearences cancelled?

Oh DEAR!

by Anonymousreply 145Last Sunday at 5:14 PM

We’re appearences cancelled?

Two out of three ain't good.

by Anonymousreply 146Last Sunday at 5:15 PM

....

by Anonymousreply 147Last Sunday at 5:17 PM

They seem incapable of managing their PR. What a disaster.

by Anonymousreply 148Last Sunday at 5:19 PM

If they are, it'd seem it's because William is incapable of managing his willy

by Anonymousreply 149Last Sunday at 5:21 PM

Why would any woman want to sleep with him, anyway? He’s ghastly. Even uglier than his father.

by Anonymousreply 150Last Sunday at 5:24 PM

Kate needs to read up on Charles, Diana, and Tiggy Legge-Bourke.

by Anonymousreply 151Last Sunday at 5:25 PM

Much of this thread reads like dumb mean girls trying to spread gossip among other thirsty girls.

Incidentally, the same demographic who adore Meghan.

Just sayin'...

by Anonymousreply 152Last Sunday at 5:26 PM

Back to the thread title: just how does Prince William's lawyer try to suppress rumors of (William's) affair

...when everyone from here to China knows about it? So The Daily Fail and The Sun can't print it in the UK: big deal. Does his lawyer plan to sue the internet?

by Anonymousreply 153Last Sunday at 5:29 PM

Sure R150, and you’re a total looker, right?

He’s tall, fit, not unattractive, exceedingly rich, only going to get richer and will one day be Head of State of the United Kingdom and of the other Commonwealth realms. And he also allegedly has a big fat cock, hence his uni nickname of “Big Willy”.

Yeah nothing there to attract people. How many are lined up to shag you, R150? You don’t understand how the works works, do you?

by Anonymousreply 154Last Sunday at 5:29 PM

A journalist friend of mine here in the States recently visited the UK. My US journalist friend has her own journalist friend in the UK, who told my friend all about this William/Rose cheating story before it became public. Then, a couple of months later, the story became public just as the UK journalist said. William cheated. Rose leaked it to the press.

But while all this was happening a few months ago, the press and the palace (secretly) continued to push the story that Markle is a social climbing bitch who doesn't get along with Kate so as to cause a distraction from the William cheating story. And that's why Harry is pissed at William. Kate and Markle are different but don't have much of a problem with each other. Harry resents everyone dumping on Markle and using her as the distraction to hide William's cheating. But now that the William/Rose cheating story is public, the heat is slightly off Markle. However, Harry is still mad because Markle's reputation took a bad hit partly due to William and partly due to Markle herself. Now the palace is doing everything possible to squash any stories William. It's working a bit. But the damage between the Cambridges and the Sussexes is done and will take a long time to repair if it can be at all.

by Anonymousreply 155Last Sunday at 5:47 PM

^ what a load of rubbish.

by Anonymousreply 156Last Sunday at 6:04 PM

Would the public accept Rose as Queen? What will happen to Kate?

by Anonymousreply 157Last Sunday at 6:13 PM

R155 sounds plausible to me. Poor Kate. She seems quite admirable. How boring of William to cheat, and with a chinless aristo, how unoriginal. Dammit, this is making me feel sympathy for the Harkles!

by Anonymousreply 158Last Sunday at 6:13 PM

And Rose is chinless.

by Anonymousreply 159Last Sunday at 6:24 PM

Let's just put all this talk about who's the next queen, Kate or Rose, off for just a bit!

by Anonymousreply 160Last Sunday at 6:29 PM

[quote] My favorite Marchioness is Lady Edith, Marchioness of Hexum.

Is she related to Jon-Erik?

Oh, [italic]dear.[/italic]

by Anonymousreply 161Last Sunday at 6:31 PM

Kate should be addressed as Her Royal Basicness

by Anonymousreply 162Last Sunday at 6:31 PM

And all you people who believe that this cheating storey is true, believe it because, why? You read it somewhere? In the Fail? The Sun? People? In Touch?

So much stupid on these threads.

by Anonymousreply 163Last Sunday at 6:33 PM

^ “story”, obviously, before the few of you who can spell pile on.

by Anonymousreply 164Last Sunday at 6:34 PM

I posted this on another thread about this situation. The more I read about it, the more I wonder if it applies. First off, I'm surprised that there are people who are surprised about this. I'd be more surprised (going for 3!) if Will (or Kate ) *didn't* have affairs during the marriage. Those two won't get divorced, it would serve neither one well. However, expecting them to only have the other to fuck until death they do part is charmingly innocent, and highly unlikely (how boring!)

Emotional affairs are the truly dangerous ones, and I'm wondering if something like that went down in this case. Will's fuck may have evolved into fancy.

by Anonymousreply 165Last Sunday at 6:39 PM

I doubt Kate was cheating. She doesn’t appear to have much of a libido.

by Anonymousreply 166Last Sunday at 6:42 PM

Isn’t Kate hooking up with an ex or some sailor?

by Anonymousreply 167Last Sunday at 6:46 PM

R166 How do you know that she doesn’t have much of a libido?

by Anonymousreply 168Last Sunday at 7:26 PM

r155 Any idea why Rose leaked it? It occurred coincidentally b/t Meghan's baby shower and the birth. At the height Meghan-mania..

by Anonymousreply 169Last Sunday at 7:57 PM

She didn’t leak it on purpose re timing, r169. She told friends in confidence and they leaked it.

by Anonymousreply 170Last Sunday at 8:02 PM

How do you know this, R170?

by Anonymousreply 171Last Sunday at 8:15 PM

Rose didn't leak the story to the press. She told friends in confidence. Dammit, she wanted to tell someone that she was fucking the future king of England. Who wouldn't? But her secret didn't remain a secret. The friends, acquaintances leaked the news. It's difficult to contain such a scandal.

by Anonymousreply 172Last Sunday at 8:35 PM

How do you know this, R172?

It’s a serious question - when I see people making statements like “she told friends in confidence” I like to know if it’s based on facts or purely conjecture.

Besides, in those circles, shagging a prince wouldn’t be such a big deal if one is married to a Marquess - the Lord Great Chamberlain - and chatelaine of Cholmondeley Cadtle and Houghton Hall.

It’s not as if Rose is an office administrator from Slough.

by Anonymousreply 173Last Sunday at 9:15 PM

If Rose leaked it, it means she wants something out of it. Like a crown.

by Anonymousreply 174Last Sunday at 9:17 PM

R173, they got it from the media and some royal watcher's twitter account.

by Anonymousreply 175Last Sunday at 9:19 PM

I'm sure Kate doesn't give a fuck as long as she has her $$$ and title.

by Anonymousreply 176Last Sunday at 9:28 PM

Oh stop it R174 - you’ve been watching too much Game of Thrones. Fucking hell - the frauen on these friends sometimes beggar belief.

by Anonymousreply 177Last Sunday at 9:28 PM

“Some royal watcher’s twitter account”, R175?

Oh, that sounds completely plausible!

by Anonymousreply 178Last Sunday at 9:30 PM

R177 here - “threads” not “friends”

by Anonymousreply 179Last Sunday at 9:31 PM

For all we know, Will and Kate had a huge fight about something and he blurted it out.

Rose was born and raised in those circles. She wouldn't be that dumb to blab to someone she didn't know very well, and if she did tell a friend, I would assume that friend is from the same circle(s), and said friend would also not be that dumb. Maybe my fight theory is true, and one of the household staff went telling tales. I don't know.

I really don't think Rose is the leaker. To what end? She doesn't want Kate's job. None of Will's exes did. She already has plenty of money and she has far more freedom than Kate will ever see again. Why would she blow a good thing?

the "MeMe" troll can fuck off any time now. Way past your bedtime kid.

by Anonymousreply 180Last Sunday at 9:37 PM

R173. I know because my journalist friend told me that Rose told friends in confidence about her affair, and news like this doesn't remain a secret. The general consensus is that Rose did not leak the news, and the press did not find out about the affair from her. She told friends (as it turns out, unwisely) and word started spreading. And maybe the friend didn't say anything, but maybe a member of someone's staff said something. People talk no matter how much you swear them to secrecy--or think they don't know. Plus, there are all sorts of royal watchers/writers who have contacts within aristocratic circles. Affairs don't go unnoticed no matter how hard the two parties involved think they're keeping it a secret.

Do I know for certain that this is how things became public? No. But I know as much as my journalist friend told me who recently got back from the UK--and she got the news from fellow UK journalists. These journalists were dying to find out this news. They started asking around. Word got out.

by Anonymousreply 181Last Sunday at 9:43 PM

r181 Sounds plausible and straightforward to me. Occam's razor and all that.

I still don't know why hot head had to get his fucking lawyers involved. Now everyone looks bad in this. It could have gone away quietly, but no, he had to fan the flames.

Stupid, stupid move....and he's going to be King someday? Oy vey.

by Anonymousreply 182Last Sunday at 9:50 PM

Exactly R180 - why would anybody with a title, a couple of magnificent houses at their disposal and vast amounts of money want to marry into the royal family? If they wanted to, they would. The last member of the aristocracy to marry into the royal family was Diana. And we all know how well that worked out.

This story is quite possibly an invention that was planted with the press and which has no factual basis at all, but has then been picked up on boards such as this, then fed back to the press like the Mail, and had gone from being a story about a rumour to being a story about, what? Something someone invented?

I can see that the suburban housewives who have invaded DL would find it all very exciting but I believe that it’s just a tired rumour about two reasonably well known, reasonably rich, not unattractive people possibly fucking. Or probably not.

And as for R172 quoting their friend a journalist as a source - the British tabloids pay people to sit around and invent shit like this all day long. Sometimes the story gets picked up, as this one did, usually it’s just one day’s click bait and subsequently vanishes. Just because it appears online doesn’t make it real. Look at the massive volumes of shit on sites such as DL which people quite as gospel because they’ve seen it on...DL!

by Anonymousreply 183Last Sunday at 9:53 PM

R180 here,

Sorry the "MeMe" troll is on the other thread discussing this. I got my threads confused.

by Anonymousreply 184Last Sunday at 9:53 PM

R181, you do realize that the source of your journalist friend's info is the same as the royal watcher's posted up thread? Both are relying on gossip.

by Anonymousreply 185Last Sunday at 9:53 PM

Didn't I just see this on [italic] PBS Master's Piece Theater?

by Anonymousreply 186Last Sunday at 9:56 PM

Yes, people talk. Slightly off topic, but to prove my point: Last year, a key director of our staff at work was leaving the company. It was highly confidential because there was a question of whether this employee was leaving on his own or being fired, and it was going to leave a big void in the running of the company. There were basically three people who knew the details: the CEO, the chief of staff and this particular employee. No one else. However, one evening after hours (but not too late), the CEO was waiting for the elevator with the chief of staff. My office was right next door to the elevator. The CEO was talking about this employee leaving. The CEO did not know I was in my office, and as a result, I overheard the conversation. So now, I knew this top secret news. The elevator came, and the CEO and chief of staff got on the elevator and left the building.

I then discretely leaked the news to some other key executives who needed to know that this person was leaving. So yes, people talk. No one knew that I knew this information, and no one knew how I knew. But I knew. So someone on the royal staff or on the marchioness' staff could have overheard or seen something that no one else knew. Things happen. People talk, and sometimes you never know how they found out.

by Anonymousreply 187Last Sunday at 10:02 PM

Do I smell a burning caftan?

by Anonymousreply 188Last Sunday at 10:04 PM

Probably the fat gossipy Irish cook or that snippy chambermaid.

by Anonymousreply 189Last Sunday at 10:09 PM

[quote]Besides, in those circles, shagging a prince wouldn’t be such a big deal if one is married to a Marquess - the Lord Great Chamberlain - and chatelaine of Cholmondeley Cadtle and Houghton Hall.

It is a huge deal. If you don't understand that, cutting and pasting from Google and using one as a pronoun only makes you look even more foolish.

by Anonymousreply 190Last Monday at 3:39 AM

It could also be the hot gardener David C was fucking on the side.

by Anonymousreply 191Last Monday at 4:53 AM

George V slept with prostitutes. Britain stood alone against Hitler while the Yanks did nothing. Isn't a marquis a sort of tent? Now I would love to be styled a royal marchioness!

by Anonymousreply 192Last Monday at 5:28 AM

R190 There was no cutting and pasting from Google (if there was it would be “copying” and pasting, btw). I’m interested in art and architecture and have always been interested in Houghton, particularly the dispersement of much of its art collection to Russia and its return for an exhibition at the house which I visited years ago. I was a punter before you try and get snide again, not a guest.

An alleged affair with Prince William would be less of a big deal for people at that level of the social structure than it would be for someone such as yourself, for example. That was my point which you’ve confirmed with your queeny overreaction.

You’re showing you’re insecurity about one’s use of “one” - luckily we don’t all speak American!

Don’t assume that everybody is as ill-informed and parochial as many of the posters on these threads.

by Anonymousreply 193Last Monday at 9:57 AM

I was taught to use one as pronoun. It was forbidden to write you because 1) it switches the language to second person and 2) it's accusatory. Has this changed?

What is the status of [bold]one[/bold]

by Anonymousreply 194Last Monday at 12:03 PM

Someone wise once told me: A secret is something everyone tells just one person.

by Anonymousreply 195Last Monday at 12:22 PM

❤️ That r195 !

by Anonymousreply 196Last Monday at 2:04 PM

They don't get many new friends in these circles so I assume they're already fucked each other once like a merry go round. I'm sure STD more so than gossip kills your social standing.

by Anonymousreply 197Last Monday at 2:20 PM

R193, if titles and hierarchy are important in that crowd, isn’t hooking up with the future king kind of like grabbing the brass ring for some of them? Which is a different kind of big deal than it is for a member of the general public — for whom it would be more like having an affair with someone who is essentially just a very famous celebrity — but still a big deal. But maybe I don’t get it.

by Anonymousreply 198Last Monday at 6:55 PM

R198, R193 here - I was just googling “brass ring” - still not sure what that means.

What I was saying is that for people in the British - primarily English and Scottish, aristocracy, someone with a British royal title doesn’t have the same impact as it does for the rest of us (including me).

They socialise with them, went to Eton or wherever with them, they’re usually related to each other (as are all the current non royal Dukes - all related and not distantly). It gets confusing when the rest of us look at their lives and try and view it through our experience - it just doesn’t work. I have been shot down in this forum before for saying this but for most English and Scottish aristocrats, the British Royal family is no big deal. Of course the Sovereign is at the top of the heap as the Fount of All Honours, but for most of them, the British royals are relatively recent, relatively arriviste Germans - “relative” being a relative term, of course.

Someone fucking the wife of the Duke of Cambridge? So what? He’s not particularly accomplished, pleasant featured, reasonably fit and born into the higher orders. They all are in that set - big deal!

Now I’ll step back and let the “experts” pile in!

by Anonymousreply 199Last Monday at 7:23 PM

You’re saying “Of course the Sovereign is at the top of the heap” in one paragraph and then “but he’s just the Duke of Cambridge” in the next. But he’s not! The guy’s probably going to be king for 40 years.

by Anonymousreply 200Last Monday at 7:46 PM

And that’s a big deal to you, R200 - “the guy’s probably going to be king for 40 years”. Hopefully. One day. And that’s a big deal to most of us.

But to the very small numbers who make up the British aristocracy, he’s also the bloke who they went to school with. Or who dated their sister. Or whatever.

I’m getting a bit exhausted trying to get this across, so it’s probably just me, but I’ll try again.

Not long after Diana Princess of Wales died, one of the glossies - probably Tatler or Vanity Fair - did a profile on William, who was at Eton at the time. William was walking down the high street (Eton is a town, not just a school) with a group of friends and another group of Eton lads approached and one of them, on seeing William, made an exaggerated bow in front of him, as a joke. William’s response? “Fuck off”.

That should tell you something about how the upper classes respond to the British royal family - they’re not necessarily as enamoured as the rest of us.

Or maybe not, but I’m tired of this argument, which, in the scheme of things, means nothing. The upper classes have never given a fuck about what the rest of us think. William fucking the wife of a neighbour? So what? They’ve all always been fucking each other, it just gets more coverage now, sadly.

by Anonymousreply 201Last Monday at 8:01 PM

R198 “If titles and hierarchy are important in that crowd”.

That’s the point! They all have titles. Or are descended from people who do. Or are untitled but completely grand with a history that can be traced back way before most of the current Dukes.

They are much less likely to be impressed with a Duke (royal or otherwise) or a Marquess, Earl, Viscount or Baron than the vast majority of the population who have no title or grand lineage.

Because that’s their default. They all know each other. They’re almost always related. It’s a very small world.

If you don’t believe me try looking up one of the current non Royal dukes on Wikipedia. Check out their mother. They’ll likely be the daughter or grand daughter of another duke. Keep going with her forebears. You can disappear down a rabbit hole trying to follow it.

by Anonymousreply 202Last Monday at 8:17 PM

Here are some Dukes: Westminster. Buccleuch. Norfolk. Bedford. Richmond. Northumberland. Beaufort. Hamilton.

All related. Will become more distantly so as there’s less pressure to marry other aristocrats.

by Anonymousreply 203Last Monday at 8:42 PM

[quote] The guy’s probably going to be king for 40 years.

Or not. Sometimes people die much sooner than you'd think.

by Anonymousreply 204Last Monday at 8:44 PM

Read more history, little Georgie.

by Anonymousreply 205Last Monday at 8:52 PM

R205 I still think Margaret Beaufort had the princes in the Tower killed. I never totally trusted that bitch. Religious zealots are the worst.

by Anonymousreply 206Last Monday at 9:14 PM

Bring William to me. His mother is rolling over in her grave. He needs to disciplined.

by Anonymousreply 207Last Monday at 11:44 PM

Was any eye contact made between these two at the outing? Seems frosty to me. You would think they would put on a better front to refute the stories right now.

by Anonymousreply 208Last Tuesday at 5:51 AM

Hard to put up a front r208, when you're seething with rage, and righteous indignation.

by Anonymousreply 209Last Tuesday at 7:14 AM

Putting on a united front for the press and the kids.

There's not interaction between them. It just smelt and felt fake.

by Anonymousreply 210Last Tuesday at 7:21 AM

I'm certain Wills will not succumb to any temptation.

- Grampa Pa Philip

by Anonymousreply 211Last Tuesday at 8:32 AM

No one can outrun pussy. When pussy's chasing you... well you just can't run THAT fast!

by Anonymousreply 212Last Tuesday at 8:38 AM

He showed Rose his chopper and she was smitten!

by Anonymousreply 213Last Tuesday at 8:42 AM

And by chopper, he means cock.

by Anonymousreply 214Last Tuesday at 8:43 AM

I do! I do!

by Anonymousreply 215Last Tuesday at 8:44 AM

R208 If they showed up looking happy and interacting with each other it would only fuel the gossip. They're frosty with each other most of the time. The party line is that they don't do PDAs because PDAs are unprofessional. The most you'll get from the Cambridges is a peck on the cheek at polo, or an arm around the shoulder/waist. That's basically frottage for them.

by Anonymousreply 216Last Tuesday at 8:46 AM

And speaking of frottage...

by Anonymousreply 217Last Tuesday at 8:48 AM

And speaking of frottage, in a few (ahem) hours, I'll be back at SH merching.

- "I love the night life....gotta boogie...."

by Anonymousreply 218Last Tuesday at 9:45 AM

R211 - that's the former Penelope Eastwood with Philip in the photo. She's now Countess Mountbatten. Her husband is bending down behind her. She was also seen with Prince Charles when he was a bachelor. She either gets around or they're just family.

by Anonymousreply 219Last Tuesday at 9:49 AM

Interesting story about Penelope. In 2010, her husband swanned off to the Bahamas to live with another woman. Ms Penny took over the management of Broadlands, the ancestral home. A few years later, he skulked back and she put him up in the barn. I'm sure it was a renovated barn but the point being, he was not allowed in the house. They appeared together at their daughter's wedding but Prince Charles walked her down the aisle. He was described as not well enough to do that. Other reports are that he has Alzheimer s.

A lot of sadness in that family. The IRA bombing that killed his grandparents and younger brother, the youngest daughter's death at age 5, the son's heroin addiction.

by Anonymousreply 220Last Wednesday at 7:19 AM

You know you're on the way out when you've been told to start calling them "Sir" and "Ma'am" instead of "William" and "Kate" as you always have.

by Anonymousreply 221Last Wednesday at 7:39 AM

Que, r221?

by Anonymousreply 222Last Wednesday at 7:44 AM

Bringing my comment from the other thread about this.

OK, how many days has it been now?

I'm thinking it's serious. They would have released some new photos of the kids, or done a FAR better photo op than the one above with the Tindall's. Full charm offensive, happy happy, joy joy.

My guess is Hot head Willy is getting chewed out by HM, Charles, various courtiers and his wife person Kate whatshername, and he is listening to NO ONE. That seems to be his M.O.

He's fucking up. This feels like deliberate self sabotage. Maybe he just wants out.

by Anonymousreply 223Last Wednesday at 7:54 AM

Did they have any appearances for this month that were cancelled? Seems they were everywhere a month ago and now nowhere to be found.

by Anonymousreply 224Last Wednesday at 8:49 AM

R216 remember when Kate went for William’s inner thigh at Eugenie’s wedding and he removed her hand, LOL!

by Anonymousreply 225Last Wednesday at 9:28 AM

I got as far as R52 and was wondering when the yank/limey bickering would start. But...WW2 ? Really ? How fucking old are you ? That is literally playground stuff.

Besides, this is a largely American based site and there are endless threads about the Royals. Seems to me a whole load of you give way more of a shit about them than we do.

You’re totally right about them being leeches though.

by Anonymousreply 226Last Wednesday at 9:42 AM

R216 any photos or video of that? I don’t remember seeing that...

by Anonymousreply 227Last Wednesday at 10:26 AM

R227 They did an awkward side hug at a sporting event some years ago r227. That's all I can recall in the physical affection department. The tabs went wild when they saw the stills. Then the video came out, and it was like a millisecond of excitement about the team, not each other. The vid has since probably been scrubbed.

by Anonymousreply 228Last Wednesday at 10:39 AM

R199 is quite correct.

by Anonymousreply 229Last Wednesday at 10:48 AM

Can we please speak more about the Prince's COCK!!!!!!!!!!! This is a sex affair. Do you think Prince William is kinky? Does he like a rim job? Do they use condoms? Is it a kinky, old school thrill for the Marchioness to have royal splooge in her twat?

by Anonymousreply 230Last Wednesday at 10:52 AM

[quote] Is it a kinky, old school thrill for the Marchioness to have royal splooge in her twat?

As R199 points out, toffs aren't impressed by HRH Prince William, Duke of Campbridge, future king. Rose is merely having a bit of fun with "Big Willy" from the neighbourhood. The nickname is clearly ironic so one hopes he's skilled with all his muscles, particularly those that protrude and those with prehensility .

by Anonymousreply 231Last Wednesday at 11:44 AM

Wills has “lousy lay” written all over him.

by Anonymousreply 232Last Wednesday at 11:54 AM

Yeah, Kate does all the "heavy lifting" in that department, I imagine, r232.

by Anonymousreply 233Last Wednesday at 12:00 PM

Charles’ nudes, at age 45, as reported by the Bild Zeitung:

[quote]A German newspaper published a colour nude photo of Prince Charles on its front page on Wednesday (7/9), hazy in detail but explicit enough to distinguish his genitals. "Large shoulders, muscular arms, a hairy, virile torso. Not an ounce too much fat, but just enough. A royal silhouette," the mass-circulation Bild Zeitung reported, claiming to have published the first nude photo of the heir to the British Crown. The picture shows the Prince of Wales with only a white towelling robe thrown carelessly over his shoulders. "His 1.85-metre (six-foot-one-inch) frame is cut like a Greek statue. And this at 45," wrote the paper, which sells 4.5 million copies a day.

by Anonymousreply 234Last Wednesday at 12:17 PM

EW!!

by Anonymousreply 235Last Wednesday at 12:20 PM

He looks paunchy

by Anonymousreply 236Last Wednesday at 12:21 PM

Yeah, no fucking thanks...

by Anonymousreply 237Last Wednesday at 12:22 PM

A lot of pubes!

- Not Camilla

by Anonymousreply 238Last Wednesday at 12:23 PM

R237 My eyes! It burns!!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 239Last Wednesday at 12:25 PM

William strikes me as a chest waxer.

by Anonymousreply 240Last Wednesday at 12:25 PM

Is Chuck really 6"1"? He looks so tiny now.

by Anonymousreply 241Last Wednesday at 12:27 PM

"Is Chuck really 6"1"?"

No.

by Anonymousreply 242Last Wednesday at 11:52 PM

[quote] "Is Chuck really 6"1"?"

Around the time he married Diana he was 5' 11". She was 5' 10" in bare feet, so if she wore heels, she'd tower over him.

by Anonymousreply 24320 hours ago

Chuck looks presentable for his age in those pics. He could have tried to keep fit. He was kinda sporty when he was in his 20's.

by Anonymousreply 24420 hours ago

R243 Thanks for the accurate info. Hard to trust any news sources these days...

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