Survivor: Edge of Extinction Part II

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I hope one of the Lesu 5 leaves next.

we need two threads for Chris's dong.

CBS realized if they house the jurors this way, they save on the cost of feeding them and they'll be a lot more cantankerous and pissed when it comes time to vote for the winner.

R4, that's not a bad idea on their part to create fireworks.

r5 except they are not the jury. People can leave anytime by raising, THe actual jury will still be housed.

Maybe there's no ponderossa this season

As long as Chris and his bulge stay on the show, it's worth tuning in.

I was surprised Eric had a wife and kids...

I bet Eric raises the white flag.

Eric was absolutely transfixed by Chris emerging from the sea with his big harpoon, providing protein for the tribe for another day. He’s staying.

Eric is a devout Christian - he does not get transfixed by cock

Can't wait for the Amazing Race tonight

[quote] I was surprised Eric had a wife and kids...

I knew Eric was married with kids but was shocked when Gavin mentioned his wife and kids.

Is it double eviction tonight, they are sure doing tribal council early in the hour.

Smart move taking out Wentworth along with her idol.

Wardong is in it to win it

I'm so glad Wentworth is gone!!

Wentworthless

Well played, Wardong! Now please unload inside me QUITE deeply while I choke on Chris' pendulous anaconda!

It's not only a bad season but the franchise is losing steam. I don't follow ratings because it's been on since I was 12, but I think the Survivor is just about over. Warthog had a good play for today, but I doubt it will keep him in the game as long as if he'd stayed with Kelly and Lauren. He has a not bad ass for an ugly old man.

Does Julie's pussy stink?

R21 Survivor is still one of the top rated shows on TV. Given the general decline in ratings, its 1.5 average in the 18-49 demo and it's over 7 million viewers every week put it in the top 10 .

Survivor is typically the highest rated show on Wednesdays, outdoing two other Wednesday shows that once blazed white-hot: Empire and Modern Family.

What's with the incredibly boring Immunity Challenges this season?

Wardong's tattoos are so dumb that I hope he loses Survivor. That leaves Danvers as the only one to root for and even he is annoying. Blah.

When do they rig it so Joe gets back in the game?

Yes, the ratings are still good. Just slightly down from last season. It's beating more expensive to make scripted shows. It's not going anywhere anytime soon.

As Probst has said many times, the show has a very loyal audience. I've been very tempted to give on the show a few times and this season is one of them. Haven't yet though.

Lets hope this is the last time the do the stupid Edge of Extinction twist. It has not been well received at all.

R26 I think that's what they wanted to happen, but I don't think that it does. He would gotten a lot more airtime and a better edit if he got back in. The can only "rig" it so much. I expect whomever it is that gets back in, to be promptly voted back out again. But who knows, Deven's wasn't. He doesn't come off as too big of a threat, though.

Looks like Wentworth is not the second returnee. Her dad can't keep quiet and still pissed.

No spoilers, please.

I think it was a good move by Wardog, but a little early. He just put a huge target on his back, and he has no protection, and no one that's 100% loyal to him.

I don't think it's controversial to say the show is losing steam... it's been on for almost 20 years now. There are rumors (by reputable sources) that S40 will be an all winners season. If so, it might be a good idea to end it with that, although I very much doubt that will happen.

It's likely one of the most profitable shows on TV. It ain't going anywhere.

R30 It's not a solid spoiler. Kelley's dad seems like negative person in general it seems, so it could be just more of that from him.

There haven't been any real spoilers this year so far.

How did Wardog talk to several people about Kelly and it not get back to her? Devons could have blown up tribal council by revealing what Wardog was up to, and he just sat there. I think that if someone had made the case that Wardog was trying to vote out one of his brand new alliance (and a member of his final three), people might have started to see how shady he was and turned on him.

Why would Devins blow up Wardigs game? Devins has wanted Kelley out for a while himself. The only people who would’ve snitched to Kelly would’ve been Lauren, Gavin and Julie. All people who were left out of the blindside. Lol at all the idols being on extinction island. I think only Lauren has one.

And they actually showed Wardog having only very brief conversations with Aurora, Victoria, etc. to pull them in on the Kelley blindside. So that was another effective way of keeping it a surprise.

Devins is annoying. At this point, I want Aurora to win.

Aurora said "literally" on last night's episode when she should have said "figuratively." She doesn't deserve to win Survivor.

Why is Wentworth's dad pissed, she has had three chances to win and failed every time.

And Devins warned David that he was about to lose the immunity challenge and finished that sentence with "bro". For that alone he should be voted off.

I like Aurora -- tough broad. I hope she kicks Julie's ass.

Why was Gavin a ghost on this episode? Miss Probst failed to call on him in both Tribals and he was barely shown to utter a complete sentence in the entire hour.

I've never seen two immunity challenges & two tribal councils in a one-hour show before.

WartDong is apparently a “law student”, but isn’t he at least 40? Also he seems as dumb as a bag of hammers.

I don't know how these contestants always fall for the heavy-handed, transparent machinations of shysters like Boston Rob, Tony, WarDog...

[quote]WartDong is apparently a “law student”, but isn’t he at least 40?

And just what, may I ask, is so wrong with pursuing your dreams at any age?

Debbie has a delicious snatch!

We need to see Wardong's dong

Whoredung can keep his dong to himself.

There's definitely something off about a grown man who calls himself "Wardog," but I don't think he's stupid. He's playing the smartest game this season.

Dream returnees for a season 40 Allstar Winners would include: Todd from China, Kim from One World, Harch, Sandra, Parvati, Amber AND Boston Rob. I love it that losers like Ozzy and Hantz wouldn’t be invited! Sadly I don’t think Parvati will play again.

No more returnees!!!!

Where are the dong/bulge pics?

Assuming the all winners cast is true:

I think Boston Rob, Amber, and Parvati have all said they aren't interested in playing again. Not that they can't change their mind.

Both Ethan (cancer) and Todd (addiction) have had serious health issues. That doesn't rule them out, but I'm not sure the appetite on either side for them to play again given their health, I guess that would depend on their current state.

Natalie from Samoa has been off the grid, and I think was pissed when Probst and others have said she didn't deserve to win. Even if invited (and that's not 100%), I can't imagine she wants to do it again.

Production was never happy with Brian from Thailand, who never revealed he had a soft-core porn career before playing, and received some bad press for events after his win. I'd be shocked if he was included.

All speculation, of course.

Has Ethan’s cancer come back?

I'd love to see Todd return if it wouldn't send him into a drinking spiral before or after filming. Unfortunately, he's one of those players whose identity seems to be wrapped up in Survivor.

Ethan is cancer free now. Not sure he wants to play again or not.

Last I heard Todd was sober. I'm sure he'd play again if they asked.

Jenna Morasca ODed on drugs last year and bit the cop that revived her. Talk about ungrateful! I can't see them asking her especially if Ethan is on (they broke up and he got married soon after) unless they were low on female winners.

Amber? Why on earth would you want her back? Talk about boring.

Ambuh.

Best gets would be some of the winners who never came back for another season: Bob Crowley (who's 68 now, so probably not), Yul Kwon, Denise Stapley, Earl Cole. There are others.

I don't remember a thing about Amber. I forgot that she even won.

They should change locations to a different country, and at least for an All Winners season, double the prize money.

Which season did Denise win? R59. There are a bunch of seasons I can’t even remember.

I’d like to see Amber because it’s been a long time since Allstars and it’d be interesting to see how she’d play now, especially without Rob, and how others would treat her.

Wow. Did not know that about Jenna M. That’s really sad. Few Survivor players seem to be able to just walk away from the game without any problems adjusting to normal life. They either latch into it and make it their lives or feel so negative they virtually go underground.

r62 -- Denise's final four were Malcolm Freberg (her ally), plus Lisa Whelchel and Mike Skupin. She is short and athletic and I believe a therapist from Iowa. One of the more low-profile winners.

Is Skupin in jail?

I actually thought Blair was robbed in that season.

According to Wikipedia, r64, he served a short term but was released from prison at the end of 2017.

Skupin, another Jebus lover who fell in the fire the first time around. Elezziebeth Hasselbeck was spreading the faith that season, too IIRC.

Child porn? Holy fuck! I thought he went to jail for bilking senior citizens!

Let Jesus fuck you!

- Regan, cross in hand.

Denise Stapley was ok. She had a good argument to win. She was on a crappy team that almost got totally decimated, went in into the merge at a major disadvantage, and she could really assert she outplayed, outlasted and outwitted the other players. She was at every tribal council that season and managed not to get voted out. Not an easy task, especially for an older woman on this show.

Skupin (ugh) and Lisa just were seen as one unit. Too holier than though for most probably.

I'd image Denise is low on the list on the female winners. I'd be a bit surprised if they brought her back. I wouldn't mind it though.

Unless they make a huge impression like Richard Hatch, I forget these people’s names as soon as the finale ends. Honestly, good for y’all for remembering all of these details about old Survivor seasons and players.

As much as I love Lisa Whelchel, Denise deserved that win.

She went to every single tribal council, never got a reward, etc... she really did "survive."

Skupin is/was scum.

Wasn't Elizabitch who made a point of asking Colby and Tina how they would be nothing if Skupin had not fallen in the fire and they were competing against him. Then Tina put that little cunt back in her place with something like the game is like life, always surprises. If he hadn't fallen in the fire then maybe his own tribe would have voted him out. She ended it with saying he was a strong player but what was done was done and time to move on.

Then after Tina won she committed to donating and helping a bunch of liberal causes like abolishing the death penalty. Elizabitch was fuming. LOL

I think the advantages that the EOE residents have to find are stupid. Why should I race around to find an advantage to give away? It really hasn't benefited anyone on EOE.

Elizabeth and Skupin suck. I'm sure Jerri has gotten a good laugh and some satisfaction at them being exposed for what they truly are after all those years. They both got good edits and Jerri a terrible one. They were the real bitches (and hypocrites).

They redeemed Jerri later on at least.

Jerri is always fun. They should bring her back.

Skupin and Haselbeck were close on that season.

Filarski was tied to the cross of that old guy whose name escapes me at the moment. Since it's a Mark Burnett series, it has it's quota of sanctity to fill.

Jerri had a rough time but the last time she was on she kind of became a fan favorite.

Who is getting kicked out next?

Elizabeth was close to Roger who bought a bible as his luxury item. I believe Tina has since commented on how Elizabeth has completely changed since her season. So sad that this series won’t elicit memories like earlier seasons, in fact I can barely remember who’s still left to vote out.

Most people are predicting Maxine or Karl will be voted out next, but I think Sheila will be on the chopping block when they find out about her extra vote.

Still hope Dennis wins.

Maxie was a huge cunt to Winthrop last week so she's dead to me.

Maxine's kinda growing on me.

I'm rooting for Bettypam and Orville.

The fake contestant bit was mildly funny the first time it was used, not so much the 25th time.

Will the producers remember Gavin is still on the show?

Gavin got a highwater ASS. I remember him.

Stop with the fake contestant shit, you're not fooling anyone. We know there's no "Reem" or "Gavin". Sheesh!

Chris Underwood is getting married on Friday per his Instagram.

Personally, this is my favorite...

Gavin is sneakily sexy.

I miss the challenge where they’re given cash to bid on plates, not knowing if the plate has yummy food on it or gross eyeballs and grubs.

I also miss the challenges that require hand-to-hand combat. Too many puzzles!

Heaven is getting mud rubbed on you by Wardog.

Devens wins immunity again. His dad bod is paying off at this point in the game.

I have a feeling Ron or Gavin will go instead of Wardong.

Why do they insist on getting rid of people who are well hung! Hello! Think about your viewers!

There are a lot more people on the Edge of Extinction Island than in the game.

Kelly Wentworth is the coolest chick ever. There's no one left worthy of winning the game but Devins. Lauren is sitting pretty, still not much of a target and the only one with an idol. Aurora is pretty hard to like but she's a contender if she makes it to the final three. She's a tough bitch.

WHEN do they get their chance to get back in the GAME?? Reem is the luckiest player ever. So much airtime for doing nothing but losing weight and delusion.

How long does Devins need to be on that’s island to take off all the fat?

The preview made Devins look in danger. Hopefully he wins immunity again to throw a wrench in their plans.

Everyone seems to want him out so the chances of him making to the final 3 seems quite (no pun intended) slim.

Poor Wardong. Now he has to live in the shadow of Chris' dong once again.

I could never date anyone as dumb as Wardong. He sucks at challenges but is supposed to be alpha. Ok? Gavin is too sensitive and a beta so I guess I’d have to screw Devins - gross.

Gavin clearly has a huge crush on Wentworth.

I am confused - does someone on the jury still get back in the game? What is the point?

R104 Yes, someone will come back into the game again. It'll probably happen on the next to last episode or maybe even the finale.

This picture of Wardong and Devens is hilarious.

But is the point of someone returning now? What could any of the early evictees possibly say they've done to warrant a win?

Agreed, it's stupid. The jury is massive, every player but Wendy and that hill person. But if Wentworth or Joe or Aubrey get back in the game....that's kind of the point. They are not getting rewards or showers or beds, just that dumb island and some rice. They show us nothing that goes on there because nothing goes on? That's supposed to be their advantage. The jury members might vote another eliminated contestant over the chick in the knit cap I guess. It's completely pointless. Reem still thinks she has a chance to win a million dollars? Why the fuck are they not at a hotel pigging out and having comfortable bed sex? Wentworth did look a little glowy at tribal tonight. Someone has given them wet wipes and a cookie I'm sure.

Joe got to utter the episodes' title but Gavins' "Smell you later" owned the night. At least Wardong was classy as he exited. Victoria was tonights' ghost.

That's the thing with the "Edge of Extinction"... many people (myself included) have said the twist isn't as bad as we've expected. The only problem is that we haven't seen the twist in full effect yet. How are we going to feel when Joe or Aubrey come waltzing back into the game at Final 6 or Final 5, suddenly a contender to win without having really been playing in the game since the merge. I know I'm going to hate it.

I feel like we're being prepped for a Devins win because the editors are pretty kind to him (except for his snarky comment about Lauren and Julie not playing the game while they plotted against him). But as much as I generally like him as a player, I find I can't root for him because he was already voted out.

I honestly just want to get this season over so we can start the next one.

Total blackout of Chris’ anaconda the last two episodes. Imagine if Chris has done that reward challenge - his pendulous dong swinging as he ran across the deck, floating in the water as he swam beneath it...

They have to introduce his dong at the reunion.

Miss P is saving it for himself.

I don't really even care who wins at this point, but I do hope Gavin ends up on Edge of Extinction so Chris can punish Gavin's virgin hole with his big man club.

[quote] Joe got to utter the episodes' title but Gavins' "Smell you later" owned the night. At least Wardong was classy as he exited. Victoria was tonights' ghost.

"Smell you later" is what I thought Gavin said but closed captioning said "See you later" I am going to miss Gavin's expressions of hate for Wardog though.

I know it is a lost cause but I am hoping Chris shows up at the finale in wet underwear.

R115 He definitely said Smell you later.

Chris Underwood needs to just whip it out.

He's HAF!

Fucking HOT!

Just look at that handsome face!

I hope Aurora wins this whole damn thing. Or Reem, lol.

Isn't Extinction Island like the old Survivor seasons where contestants had to fend for their own food? Perhaps that's this season's version of outlast? Just throwing out ideas.

What happened to the wild chickens Wendy let loose?

Wendy would have eaten the feet of those chickens if they could have safely amputated. We can still eat meat and not kill. Leaves a lot of three legged cows and pigs to care for.

r119 why are low hanging balls and a little dick considering fucking hot?

bump

R101, I don't remember if Chris and Wardog were allies or enemies in the game, but I wonder if their being together on Extinction will turn into chest-thumping and dong-swinging. Could be interesting.

The desperate Chris dick troll is tiresome. There's not much there. It's weeny. His ass ain't bad but that underwear was a choice. It reveals his skinny 6 cm "dong" and droopy balls. There's not enough of anything to bulge. Wet doesn't automatically win the t-shirt contest.

[quote] What happened to the wild chickens Wendy let loose?

I read somewhere, I am too lazy to even attempt to look it up now, that since chickens are not native to Fiji Survivor production had to catch the chickens kill them and give them to the locals to eat. So Wendy didn't save the chickens from being killed and eaten she just prevented her tribe from having a couple of good meals.

I quite like kelley wentworth and hope she get's back into the game. Ive noticed she seems to get a lot of hate here for some reason and im not sure why? She's got a strong quiet confidence about her without being arrogant or cold, with just the right hint of humor to her personality. To me she seems like one of the most rational level headed sane contestant's they've ever had. And it seems she hasn't made survivor her entire life and defining characteristic like so many other returning players seem to have fallen victim too. so i dont get the hate here. Whenever she returns, i always root for her.

If kelley can't get back in the game i hope aurora wins. She's a scrapper and she grates on the nerves of all the people i hate, so i like that about her. I'd also be fine with either lauren or gavin taking the win, as they aren't bothersome to me. But beyond that, i dislike the rest.

I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would root for devins. I hate him and want him to get revoted out badly. That man gives me the creeps, he has that child molester look to his eye. He reminds me of jared fogle everytime i see him. Not to mention he has one of the most unfortunate grotesque physiques ive ever seen. His stomach looks like an evil grin. Yuck.

Wardog is such a dumb player. He's the type to think he's playing some legendary strategic game in his head, but he's to much of a bully and people will only put up with that type of attitude for so long, It's not a sustainable game plan long term. If he was smart he would know that playing a passenger is important sometimes to lower your profile a bit. But he's to pig headed for that type of play.

He really did deserve to be voted out, as it was way to early to take a shot at wentworth. All he accomplished was losing an allie and alienating his Only other allie (lauren) and made himself look super sketchy to his newly formed fragile alliance that's glue was still drying. What did he think was going to happen? That move left him totally vulnerable with zero protection in any direction. Plus, voting out his main meat shield (wentworth) was beyond dumb. Silly man...

I like Wentworth but I’m just not fond of returning players coming back for this season. I prefer an all newbies or and allstars. I’ve also not really seen her previous seasons.

I agree about Devins. I really disliked him first episode and will go with my gut. Aurora has my vote too. Her skills impress even Jeff during challenges and she survived the foster system.

Reem has morphed into the comedic element this season. A bit like Debbie’s ever changing career captioning. It’s not an episode without Reem adding joy.

I'm a big Wentworth fan too R130. She's a woman I'd like to know. (reminds me of one I do:) She's wildly popular outside of DL, so I wouldn't worry about her. She's one of the best players and the coolest chick ever. I agree with all your opinions actually. Nice post.

Reem gets way too much camera time for a first boot. She keeps harping on being voted out like it was some travesty and unfair of the other players. Her bitching at Wentworth about crushing her dream as a superfan by voting her out was lame. If she truly was a student of the game then she would have known that the most important thing to do before the first tribal is just don't weird other people out. Everyone is afraid of going first so when you are bugging other people and oblivious that you aren't fitting in it makes it easy for everyone to target you.

She has to know at this point that she has only a minuscule chance of getting back into the game and absolutely zero chance of getting any jury votes if by fluke she somehow made it to the final. It's like she just wants to hang around and be a major drag and stink up the beach with her shitty vibes.

Reem is delusional which Is why I find her kind of hysterical at this point. It’s like an old man yelling at the Scooby gang. Sadly she’ll probably receive more airtime at reunion than most.

Anaconda Chris’ soon to be wife is a lucky woman.

R135, she is a very lucky woman! We're all jealous.

So, what's the verdict on his bulge? All balls or cock? Either way, he's super fine.

They need to stop bringing back people as fan favorites. How many people apply for survivor and don't get on and these morons get three chances to win? Fuck them. They should do it like drag race, a regular survivor with new contestants then have an all star season where past contestants are brought back.

r136 it's all dong all day long, unless his balls are long and cylindrical shaped??

[quote]Reem has morphed into the comedic element this season. A bit like Debbie’s ever changing career captioning. It’s not an episode without Reem adding joy.

FUCK YOU, R131

I can't stand Devins. He also gives me the creeps and has that "straight nerd always trying to be the cool and funny one" vibe going.

Reem has gotten more airtime than most of the new players still left in the game. To be fair, she does provide the goods for entertaining television. She was one of right casting decisions this season.

Ron seems so weasely and untrustworthy.

Isn't Wentworth's father a hardcore Trump supporter?

I loved the TV movie about Ron...he’s probably a wonderful guy in real life. But you are right- he does come as weasely and unlivable here.

Reem and Wendy provided the only real memorable personalities this season, IMO. When I think of this season later on, I think I'll only remember Wendy releasing the chickens and Reem yelling at everybody on Extinction Island, lol.

Don’t forget me!

I'm r130 and that's exactly how i feel about kelley too r132 that she's someone i'd like to know in real life, like she'd be a strong positive person in your life you could count on and trust. It's quite remarkable to feel that way about any reality show contestant period, as most are typically nuts in one way or another or just fame whore's acting out for airtime. It's why i find her charming, as it's a rare quality to see on tv.

As for dale kelley's father, i'm not sure if he's a trumpster or not r142 as i don't follow his social media, But it wouldn't surprise me if he was. as much as i like kelley ive never liked dale, and i don't think kelley does much either. If memory suits me correctly, i believe kelley and dale were estranged for years right up to their first appearance on blood vs water.

I recall reading an interview with kelley where she said how dale expected her to pretty much fend for herself and pay for everything, like food/water etc by her mid teens or something bizarre like that. It sounded like a tense household. I remember on her second season when she finally made it to the family visit point in the game, all the other contestant's were weeping hysterically and (ridiculously over the top like they always do) and out comes dale to greet kelley and she just gives him a calm quick hug with a pat on the back and a plain and simple "hi dad" with no emotion. So i'm sure their relationship is strained at least from kelley's end. It was actually kind of a refreshing counterpart to all the silly over reactions of emotion from all the other player's, who you'd think hadn't seen their families in decades judging by those water works.

Who is the “So-and-so is a Trump supporter” troll on the Survivor/Big Brother threads.

My God, do we need to talk about him on every single thread? Can we watch a show without having to make moral judgments on the voting record of reality TV competitors?

I hate the loved ones episodes. I realize they're starving and tired and half crazed by deprivation but it's so fucking cheesy and makes everyone look like an 8 year old. Probst probably jacks off to it, though.

Wentworth says "like" way too much. It's annoying. I can't stand listening to her speak.

Devins is a nice guy and really into his family, per his Instagram.

We don’t know enough about these contestants to give a shit about their families. But R148 is right, Jeff loves it. I’m of the belief Jeff is so bored he comes up with all these stupid twists and turns too.

[quote]We don’t know enough about these contestants to give a shit about their families.

Gavin sometimes can win immunity. He's married.

Lauren has an idol, and passes out at challenges.

Julie gets very emotional, and runs around at Tribal Council.

Victoria/Veronica (I can never remember) wears a beanie that, by any estimation, must smell like a dead cat by now.

The simple fact that you can't remember her name this far into the season says it all.

We watch a lot of Riverdale. It gets confusing.

Hmm. I wonder if it was a DLer that sent this message to Malcolm.

I have to admit though, I wouldn't mind seeing all of him. If there were pics out there, I'd check them out.

Ron Clark is a Pete Buttigieg supporter.

r155 Ron winning is the only thing that could save this season

Ron is a nasty mean old gay. Tried that nonsense that they must all stay together to see family visits - weeks ago. What possible movie could be made about him? He's nasty to the women & aligns with the most piggish straight men. What's to admire about Ron? He seems a typical old gay man.

Full frontal nude shots of Chris and Wardong are the only things that could save this season

I hate Ron and would love to see him voted out next. He's an idiot and an asshole. My least favorite combination of traits in a person.

All these dull (wits & optics) contestants make me miss my favorite contestant of all time JAMES CLEMENT IV.

I loved this guy (would climb him like a tree) and also would have gotten up early with him to go fishing every fucking morning. He was strong and knew how to do provider stuff. He didn't play the rest of Survivor very well and it was sad to see him go. So gorgeous.

Who has Brets personal email so I can fuck him? Oh wait that’s Amazing Race. All the hot guys on Survivor are on no man island being harressed by that one butch dyke.

No dialogue in New York. Just the music track. This blows.

When Jeff told Victoria her dad was here, I was expecting a giant wool hat to come running out.

These family reunions always get me, I don't really like any of these people but seeing them so happy makes me cry.

Who is Ron’s visitor?

Did Gavin just assure he would get picked after the comp? Since the winner always gets to select a couple of loved ones to come along.

Who is Ron’s visitor?

His husband.

Ron's husband is way too hot for him. You know who's the top in that relationship.

I hope Devens plays his hidden idol instead of the fake one Ron gave him.

I think Devins can play the fake one, then find out it is fake and then play the real one.

They were all so rude to you know who (i won't spoil it for the other coast) laughing at the person who was just playing the game.

I love Devins....almost as much as Chris Underwood delicious sausage. Looks like Ron is getting some nice hot sausage as well.....mmmm, sexy hot chocolate.

Devins is fun. Too bad I don’t see anyone thinking of taking him to final 3.

STOP WITH THE IDOLS!

Reminder: “Top Country Song” indicates that it’s the best selling country song, not that it’s the best country song

Everyone wants to be Bruno Mars

Yeah, Devens is probably a goner unless he finds another idol or keeps on winning immunity.

He might also benefit if a bigger threat than him returns (say Chris, Joe or Eric) and doesn't win immunuty. It looks like that is happening next week from the preview.

Ron didn't come off very well in that episode. Why is it that all the eldergays cast on this show are nasty, big phonies or both? Richard Hatch, Jeff Varner, Tai, now Ron ...

That said, I think Ron is probably an OK guy in real life. I think he got a little too swept up in the idea of himself as mastermind.

Devens is scrappy and kind of funny but he's like a lot of local TV guys I've interacted with over the years: kind of glib, big egos they don't hide very well, and all about self-promotion. And if anyone is getting a little producer nudge-nudge-help-help this season, it's him.

At this point, somewhat to my own surprise, I'm rooting for Gavin.

*IF* Devens finds another idol?

Silly viewers...

Three observations from tonight's episode:

1. With each passing week it becomes increasingly clear to me that Rick Devins is your winner. The producers/editors are doing that thing I hate, making it appear like there's one "good guy" remaining who has to face off against the other "bad guys". They did it with Mike in Worlds Apart, and with Ben in Heroes, Healers, Hustlers. Now Rick is getting this edit.

2. Victoria made a rookie mistake, by announcing in tribal council in front of her fellow players and jurors that she has a goal of getting Rick out of the game. It's a losing move, because now if she gets to the finals with him, all he has to say is: "Your objective was getting rid of me and you failed to do that, so how can you say you played the better game?"

3. While I've liked Rick for most of the season, he annoyed me tonight for going after Ron and Julie for lying and being untrustworthy. What game does he think he's playing? Is this Season 1 all over again, when the Pagong Tribe bitched about Richard Hatch lying to them? I guess he had a point in there about Ron just trying to make him look stupid with the fake idol stuff, but to get your panties in a twist about Julie lying? Ugh. Suck it up.

So I lied, a fourth observation:

I'm done with the jury hootin' and hollerin' and high-fivin' and basically trying to become the show. I preferred the days when Jeff told the jury they were there to observe only. I wish they'd tone down the theatrics.

Glad to see it wasn't just me R162. I came here thinking it was a national problem, but I'm in NYC and all I'm getting is the background music - no dialogue at all. Are you using Optimum/Altice cable?

I hate these people who say they came on the show to "test themselves". No, they came on for the million dollars.

Totally agree with you, R180. The antics from the jury are unnecessary.

Ready for Rick to go home. He isn't as charming and funny as he thinks he is.

In true Mark Burnett fashion, we were not shown the gay couple kissing in the loved ones challenge. Just hugs. So archaic.

Devins ain't winning this game, unless he's against Julie and Victoria at the end. He's a D-bag. So let him make the final three. Lauren, Aurora, even Gavin would win the million over him. He hasn't played a sportsmanlike game - he just makes some mildly funny comments in the midst of his treachery. He's gone.

At this point I want one of the eliminated players to win. Or Aurora. She's one tough bitch in every way.

R181, Spectrum.

Lauren and Victoria masterminded Ron's ouster, and yet Devens hogs all the attention at tribal and the jury thinks he somehow pulled all this off? Ugh.

We all knew Ron was going home as soon as he told his husband he was in control of the game’. Survivor 101. Oh and NEVER EVER win a reward challenge.

Love Aurora but I’m not sure I’d have given my extra vote away.

Rick is such a little bitch taking the fake idol stunt so seriously. He did that so build up the “I’m a good guy” narrative and the people who want to vote me out have no morals”. And of course Jeff is going along with it since the males this season have sucked at the game.

I hope Lauren or Aurora wins. Or even Kelley just to piss Rick off more.

Damn, Ron hot gold with that big hunk of a man. And lol at poster who said he thought Victoria’s dad would be a giant beanie hat.

Did you also catch Rick playing the "family" card? "You tried to make me look bad in front of my kids!"

Regardless of what you think about Rick, love him, hate him, or somewhere in between, if he does win this season, it's a new chapter in Survivor. A player who is legitimately voted out of the game returns to win that very same game.

There was a huge backlash against Pearl islands back in the day because of Lil and Burton returning to the game they got voted out of. Players wisely angled to take Lil to the finals, the other players were so angry about the returnees, there's no way they would have voted for one to win.

If Rick wins, it changes Survivor significantly. Not only does it show someone can be voted out and still win that same game, it also screws with the player's minds and strategies. Do I vote out "Player A" not knowing if there is some returnee twist this season that will bring him back to the tribe?

I wonder if that would have an impact on fan reaction to the game.

R161 and R182, I had the same problem.. All I could hear was island music; no words. I thought it was my cable box (I have Altice) so I rebooted it. Still no sound on channel 2. Went to settings and used CC for a bit and then the sound came back. But went out again AT TRIBAL COUNCIL!! How fucking annoying. Reading CC at TC is almost impossible because CC is so far behind. Weird that I had sound for AR which follows Survivor on CBS in NY.

One benefit to no Ponderosa this season is that we'll get to see the physical transformation of the jurors at the finale.

I'm sick of Devens. Please vote him out. Only Aurora or Reem (lol) winning can redeem this shitty season.

This is the most boring and worst Final 6 EVER

r187 It's Victoria who orchestrated that, all Lauren does is follow other people's plans.

r168 Ron is actually attractive. He's just old, but you can see that he was attractive in his younger times.

Before the season even started, word was that Missy Probst was not happy with this season. Makes me think Gavin may be the winner since he's so robotic and stoic. Every time Miss P called on him in tribal, his answers were rather boring and unemotional. He doesn't give him much in the way of good TV. What really surprised was we got more info on him from the other contestants that editing doesn't show in the actual broadcast. Final 3 may be Victoria, Lauren and Gavin?

Yeah, don't think Devens is winning, they'd be happy about that. Aurora isn't either, she was almost totally ignored until her first individual immunity win episode and they would've played up her difficult background story much more if she won. The returnee probably will get booted again before the final 3. Don't think Lauren wins either, or she would've gotten a better edit and more airtime considering she was on the perennially losing team pre-merge and she hasn't gotten much post merge either.

That leaves Gavin, Victoria, and Julie.

Victoria has been showed playing the game the most of those 3 (although low key about it), but hasn't had much facetime other than her one confessional about how she wasn't there to make friends, she was there to win the game. That could be her winner quote, so to speak.

Gavin has won some some immunity challenges, played a passable game, but is very, very boring so he hasn't given them much to show.

Julie has had odd confessionals that didn't seem to be particularly necessary earlier in the game which usually goes to winners, but her edit has gone down since her tribal council meltdown, However most of the negative stuff was put on Ron. I could see her making to the final 3 just because they don't see her as a threat but not sure she could come up with a really good argument for people to vote for her especially considering how emotional she can be.

[quote]Makes me think Gavin may be the winner since he's so robotic and stoic

Or a woman. Probst never likes the seasons won by women. Unless it's Parvati.

I like Rick Devens's sense of humor. 90% of what he says is meant to be funny.

Did anyone see how unhappy Gavin was in the background when Ron and his husband were hugging and talking with Probst? I think young Gavin may be quite the religious conservative.

BTW, I think Reem should win for America's favorite.

[quote] I think young Gavin may be quite the religious conservative.

Or a closet case. His wife seemed more into him than he was into her.

Gavin always has that look on his face so it's hard to draw any conclusions. He does give off a hillbilly vibe so who knows? Gotta wonder if he was like this when he was trying out for the show. I feel sorry for guys who don't know how to express emotions. It usually doesn't end well.

I know posters say this all the time but..,WORST. SEASON. EVER.

Gavin seems the type to get that big ugly tattoo just so that he can come across as "cool and edgy" on Survivor.

Gavin and his wife are married way too young. I see trouble.

Gavin seems closeted to me. He doesn't seem genuinely into his wife at all.

I agree about Reem for America's favorite. Trashing every single contestant after they've just been voted out and letting them know they are unwelcome on EoE 🤣

[quote]Did anyone see how unhappy Gavin was in the background when Ron and his husband were hugging and talking with Probst? I think young Gavin may be quite the religious conservative.

I didn’t realize Ron was gay and assumed Gavin was the token homo this season. He has a very Lindsay Graham quality about him. He’s from Tennessee so his reaction to Ron and his husband could be homophobia AND racism.

R210, I didn't notice any antipathy from Gavin to Ron & his husband. What did I miss?

Gavin is always stoic with that expressionless look on his face, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt at least. Plus, that pineapple shirt is pretty damn gay.

How could you not see that Ron is gay? Even I could.

Gavin voted out Eric because he can't stop his growing feelings for him.

I'll be pissed if Rick wins. Like someone mentioned upthread, I hate the seasons where someone makes it to the end by finding idols every episode. In HHH when Ben the truffle pig stumbled onto one every time he went out walking and then was spared being voted out by the stupid fire making twist that was never mentioned until he was about to be voted out it felt like the game was handed to him. I will never believe that contestants like that arent being favored by the producers manipulations.

And Rick's line was stupid about them trying to make him look bad in front of his kids, it was an attempt to get him to relax and not look for an idol. It didn't work but it wasn't malicious. They should be on him like flies on shit when he goes out, or go out and look for an idol themselves. I doubt the cameramen would hover near the clues in the same way they probably do for him though.

Then Gavin voted out Ron for making him realize that he can marry Eric one day. and that he made a mistake.

R211, when Ron and his husband were chatting with Probst, viewers could see the other tribe members in the background crying, smiling, and laughing. Gavin stood there with a snarl on his face. Maybe he just hates Ron, but usually even enemies are empathetic toward one another when family members are introduced.

Devens is awful. I hate these seasons that are heavily and obviously manipulated by production. This time, he was actually voted out and he has been handed idols. I expect him to “miraculously” get another one this week.

I think Gavin was trying to brace himself for seeing his wife again. The others said he wasn’t emotional but that had to be a powerful moment.

R219 = Jeff Probst

It's hard to imagine this kind of scenario (playing a reality show game on an island for 30 days with little food and little sleep), but the reactions of seeing loved ones seem heavy-handed. You would think these people have been away for years.

A part of me still doesn't quite understand how people who are sleep-deprived and starving even have the energy to play challenges, conspire against one another, and give confessionals that are coherent. And how does Gavin's hair look clean after 30 days on an island? Shouldn't it be matted and greasy looking?

Go camping for 5 weeks without electricity and and a bunch of strangers you can’t trust R221 you’ll understand how emotional you can become when you’re out of your safety zone. The relief of seeing someone you love and know would be overwhelming.

I get it but it's far from pleasant to watch. Is Gavin one of those Japanese robots?

I think Gavin has taken the most boring male contestant title away from Nick Brown and Carter Williams.

Purple Gavin

I'm surprised Gavin and his wife even went on the reward lunch with the other people and not into the woods for a honeymoon quickie. He should be called Gavin Blue Balls.

Gavin's wife reminded me of a feminine version of Jazz Jennings.

Reem is being a bitch for screen time. She just trying to get a return invite.

Something tells me that’s not an act.

Reem is my favorite character this season. She’ll be back for sure.

Reem's rants are funny and she's one of the few new memorable contestants this season. But she'd mostly likely be an early boot again unless she lucked out and got put on a team full of strong challenge players and they win all of the pre merge challenges.

I think Devens is a sure bet coming back on another season.

I just binge watched all 12 episodes this weekend. I think binge watching is the best way to watch Survivor. It’s torturous to watch in real time since I want to know immediately who gets voted out next. So I just wait until a lot of episodes have aired. Amazing Race would probably be better this way too.

Why is Wentworth such a bitch this season? If she would’ve just worked with David, they’d both still be there. Aubry’s performance was an embarrassment. These are second tier All-Stars as both Aubry and Kelley went home with idols in their pockets. How embarrassing!

There is absolutely no one left to root for... except for David and Devens and they have both been voted out before so a win from them would be tainted and forever have an asteroid next to their name. But one of the remaining 5 who haven’t ever been voted out winning would make this the worst finale ever! Worst than the winner of Khoah Rong!

[quote]Regardless of what you think about Rick, love him, hate him, or somewhere in between, if he does win this season, it's a new chapter in Survivor. A player who is legitimately voted out of the game returns to win that very same game.

Ozzie was going to win Survivor: South Pacific if he had only won the last immunity challenge. He had gotten voted out twice that season and fought his way back into the game twice and went on an immunity run. And the jury was going to reward him the win if he made it to final 3 and the audience was cheering for that. The audience wanted a winner that had already been voted out TWICE that season!

I like Devens, he seems to be the only one who is self-aware.

Inside Survivor has started to post info about the twists and cast for S39. (No actual results are spoiled.) While there are no returnees playing this season, let's just say rumor is you'll be seeing some familiar faces.

[quote] he has been handed idols

We hear this belief every season but you have to realize that these are hour long shows that consist of about 43 minutes of actual program. They are not going to spend 15 minutes showing people looking for idols and not finding them. If anyone was going to be handed an idol this season it would have been Joe Anglim, if the show was manipulated they would have clued Wentworth into using her idol.

If you actually believe the show is that manipulated, I don't quite get why you even bother watching it.

R232, who was the winner Kah Rong again? Was it that girl who didn’t show up in the edit until three episodes before the finale?

Yes, Michelle won over Aubry. That season had the twist of being able to nullify a vote.

^ Michele Fitzgerald

Aubry deserved to win that season. But seeing how awful she played this season, maybe not.

With returning players, you can see how the edit can make you feel different things. They made fun of Aubry this season with her rehearsed speeches to everyone and being totally played by the newbies. Everyone cheered for JT but he was made to look like a total idiot in returning seasons. Parvati was made to look like a dumb bimbo her first season and then a mastermind in her later seasons. Wentworth was made invisible her first season, an underdog her second season, and an uppity bitch this season.

It was funny how Probst introduced the 4 returning players. “Say hello to Joe, Aubry, David, and Wentworth!” Wentworth? Why is she introduced only by her last name?

And he said the reason why Aubry is a legend and was asked back was because “she lasted 76 days out of a possible 78 days.” Big deal. Tai lasted 78 out of 78 days. Why wasn’t he asked back? Both Russell Hantz and Amanda lasted 78 out of 78 days in their first two seasons. Dan Gheesling lasted 180 days.

Dan Gheesling?

From the promos it seems clear Devins is going this week and he knows it - looks lovely he’s stirring up as much shit as possible.

R241, Tai was kind of a trainwreck of a strategic player on both of his seasons. He was entertaining but he kind of stumbled his way towards the end both times.

Reem rheeming out Wardog.

r241 - Tai has already been back - they don't usually give people three chances to win ...oh wait.

Another idol. The producer manipulation is going to cost them viewers

How did that Pippi Longstocking girl get cast? She's ugly and dull.

Devens is playing hard. Everyone else left is so boring and not putting a whole lot of effort into the game.

And Aurora still didn't see she should've worked with Devens even though she was on the bottom of her alliance. She deserved to go.

The finale is going to be one huge clusterfuck. So many challenges and tribal councils to fit in.

Miss Positivity Reem strikes again. Too funny.

STOP WITH THE FUCKING IDOLS

The hidden Idols aren't going anywhere. Expect Boston Slob, err Rob, to find a a record amount of the during Season 40.

No hidden idols on The Amazing Race, Rupert. Now kindly fuck off.

I hate Rupert. I did like his wife from what I seen from her Season. She was surprisingly good in challenges.

I could never get into TAR though.

The contest to get back into the game should just be that everyone whips out their dick and biggest one wins. It would either be Chris or Reem.

This season is a mess. For the last few weeks not even the producers and editors could make it interesting. Some truly horrible playing by these players: when all you do is talk about how you want one guy out because he can win, you won't even have an argument against him if he gets to the final.

There's always the potential for exaggeration when discussing the current season, but I'm trying to think of a season I enjoyed less, and I'm having trouble thinking of one. It's on par with the S22 Redemption Island crap, where it was obvious to anyone watching who would win. Ghost Island wasn't good, but at least there was the Dom vs. Wendell drama. Heroes, Healers, Hustlers was pretty bad too, when they invented the Final 4 fire challenge to give Ben the win. For older seasons, I wasn't a huge fan of S5 Thailand or S14 Fiji (although I really liked Earl and Yau-Man).

Easily a bottom 5 season for me, and very possible in my bottom 2 or 3. Outside of David vs. Goliath, the last 4 or 5 seasons have not been great.

r254 Jeez. Don't put spoilers from other shows on here, I haven't watched the recent episode yet.

Oops. My bad. I forgot they were out weeks ago.

Agree with R258. WTF?! Why put Amazing Race spoilers here when a lot of Survivor fans are Amazing Race fans and will watch especially since there are Survivor and Big Brother players on there. I was going to watch Amazing Race after I finished this season of Survivor. I have 4 or 5 episodes on my DVD ready to binge. Thanks a lot.

Chris is married now.

[quote]Lets hope this is the last time the do the stupid Edge of Extinction twist. It has not been well received at all.

How could you say that when the Edge of Extinction was the best thing to happen to this season. Without it we wouldn’t have Reem or the many shots of Chris’s dong on Extinction. And we would’ve had the worst final 5 going into the finale ever: Julie, Victoria, Aurora, Becky, and Gavin. Would the audience even care which one of these goats won? It would have produced the worst winner ever, worse than Michelle or Natalie White, or Sandra both times. Edge of Extinction saved this season.

As the recaps said - what in the fuck was Aurora and all of them doing by praising Devins over and over at tribal council in front of the jury? He had immunity, so there was no logical reason to keep saying we have to get him out because he deserves to win?? Aurora was correct that they were dumb if they thought he would really play his idol for Julie. She could have stayed. But we don't really know if they had already decided to vote out Aurora. It was in the works with Lauren....

Aurora wasn't dumb to not work with Devins. She's a divorce lawyer and she can smell the douche on him. He's my least favorite kind of winner. Saying it's for his kids and to make his family proud when you know the fame and money will turn him into a divorced man with his dick in all kinds of women he never had access to before. Don't like the dude.

Doesn't matter who gets back from EOX as far as I can figure...unless it's Aurora. Lauren still has a slim chance to win. She has an idol and has been quietly behind some major moves and on the right side of the others.

Don’t worry, Rick’s Idol Nullifier will nullify Lauren’s idol.

Why did Lauren and Wentworth not work with Devens and David? If they all came together they could have run the game with 4 idols between them.

Devens suggested they all cum together during the Julia vote and it worked but then afterwards Wentworth and Lauren went right back to plotting to get David out. Why? They could have taken over this game.

David has a girlfriend?! What?? So they are no gays this season?

I gasped at a David’s girlfriend reveal too. About the only thing this episode that peaked my interest.

I don’t believe players are handed idols. I just think some work harder for them. He got up at the crack of dawn to go look. The others lazily suggest someone follow him. Once you find one you also have more of an idea what to look for and when one is in play. Lauren was an utter tool for telling Devens she knew for a fact he got his idol on the island. Luckily for her he didn’t seem to get the hint.

Yeah I was more surprised to learn that David was 44 than the revelation of a girlfriend. He doesn't strike me as gay, but he's too weird, and mentally ill to have a girlfriend. He is thinking of taking it to another place. Edge of Extinction will do that to a guy. He's one of those dudes who doesn't look fatter, healthier or more relaxed at the reunion. Moisturize. His legs are tragic. Did he grow up in a prisoner of war camp?

David wanted Wentworth out from the first day r265. I can see why she wouldn't want to work with him, but I think she did put out some feelers. Some funny things that players won't say even in confessionals. Wentworth doesn't like David, can't say I blame her. She enjoys and respects Devins, but he wanted her out too. It's easy to second guess watching at home. I never know why the women just don't band together and get rid of the men. There was that delicious season when the long haired dude not only trusted the pretty girls but gave up his idol to one of them in the final 5 and they laughed at him before they even got around to voting him out. A long time back. He was pretty cute and so were the girls that year. Fuzzy memory...

One of the reasons Wentworth is a fan favorite is how she played in Game Changers or Second Chance or whatever it was called. She is a bit snarky and for sure a strategist, but honorable in her way. She's a good player. This idea that there is any mastermind who can win is stupid in the last 20 seasons of survivor. She never pretends to like someone she can't stand, but she played with even the most insane women and steadied them. She's cool.

Doesn't' matter who wins anymore. But they have to pay Reem every episode they show her and in everyone they reference her in. I'd say she's the winner.

There is something about David that seems very creepy, almost sociopathic.

Devens and his "this is for my kids!" schtick is old. He's only 33 but could pass for 45.

How "convenient" that everyone followed him when he was pretending to look for the idol, but apparently no one cared when he was actually looking for an idol?

R266 the "gay" got kicked off last week. Right after we got to see his yummy chocolate boyfriend/partner

Reem is hilarious. Most memorable First Boot ever.

They should employ Reem to greet players at Ponderosa for future seasons.

Fans vs Favourites : Micronesia was the season you’re referring to R268. Cirie came up with the idea to ask Eric for the necklace and Natalie carried it out. Even Jeff was struggling not to laugh during the incident. It was genius. Parvati and Natalie were part of the black widow squad. Natalie would have been a great returning player.

Ron was one of two gay men on this season.

Thanks r272. Yes that's what happened! Micronesia was probably a good name for it. Poor dumb guy.

I am a fan of Reem too. She seemed insane the day they voted her off first. Day 3. Now they've been on a deserted island for 30 days and she hasn't killed or eaten anyone. She looks crazy clear. She could greet AND wash the clothes at Ponderosa.

Deven has a wide ladybutt. Way too many shots of his gross fat ass running around the woods.

Lean Reem is more muscular than shrinking Rick Devens. He's a dude that has fat underneath his fat. It takes a lot of "work" to be that grossly soft. Maybe he should work on that for his kids? He has the body of a 80 year old. His good natured jokes have an angry edge to them. I hope he doesn't win.

R273 who’s the second gay guy?

Keith was rumored to be gay, although it was never confirmed on the show.

R276 is spot-on about Devens. There is a lot of hostility masked with humor. Totally the kind of guy you imagine having severe road rage.

The only thing that could somewhat save this season is if Devins wins a reward challenge and overeats to the point his colon gets impacted and he is medevac'd from the game like that old guy a few seasons ago.

Is Miss Probst going to proclaim during the finale that this was one of the best seasons ever? Doesn’t he say that every season?

[quote] best seasons ever...Doesn’t he say that every season?

He says it often, but mainly on the seasons where production successfully shielded an obnoxiously prideful white guy from elimination via excessive idols placed where the contestant was led to and/or twists that benefit only the chosen contestant.

The seasons Jeff badmouths are usually ones where things happened organically and productions attempts to alter gameplay were unsuccessful.

And also the seasons where a woman or a non-religious person wins, R281.

Between Burnett's religiosity and Probst's obsession with alpha men, it's no wonder female winners are usually ignored even on the reunion. Jeff prefers to talk to the hot athletic 20-something bro who finished fourth.

[quote]Is Miss Probst going to proclaim during the finale that this was one of the best seasons ever? Doesn’t he say that every season?

No, he already said it was one of the worse seasons. People were speculating that means a woman wins.

What does it say about the show if someone from Extinction wins their way back in during the FINALE, then wins two challenges to sit in the final 3, and then wins the whole game because all their friends in jury that they’ve bonded with on Extinction all vote for him or her to win? It would mean the whole game played this season on the main island meant absolutely nothing! The real game happened on Extinction. They just sat there for 30 days, waltzed back in the game and won. What if Reem or Joe won?

If Keith or Wendy hadn’t quit, would they be on the jury too or would they have started jury later? It would have been pretty cool to have the entire cast on the jury.

[quote]David wanted Wentworth out from the first day [R265]. I can see why she wouldn't want to work with him, but I think she did put out some feelers.

It might have been the other way around. David saw how tight she was with Lauren and Wardog and knew working with her wasn’t a possibility. What I don’t understand is why didn’t the four of them have a pre-game alliance? Call each other up and plan it out. All returning players do that. Why go into this game against each other when the odds are already stacked against you?

These four are the worst returning players. Every time they had returning players, at least one of them makes it to the final 3 (I think this even holds true for Big Brother), but here all four are sitting on the jury.

There's a recent article/oral history about the moment of Erik giving away his immunity on Micronesia. It's by Dalton Ross from EW. I haven't read it because I'm not a Ross fan, but saw that RHAP did an interview with him about it. (Which I haven't listened to because - again - I'm not a Ross fan.)

Strategically, Devins is a horrible player. Remember him telling Wardog to his face that he wouldn't work with him? I mean, that's Survivor 101. He has no alliances. He's voted incorrectly almost every time. It's basically like he doesn't know what he's doing out there. But, he's making up for it by playing the jury. The one-liners at Tribal Council, the dramatic idol plays, the speeches about doing it for his family, the fake-out of possibly playing an idol for Julie, etc. If (when) he wins this season, it's not because he's some mastermind, it's because he's brining the entertainment. (Especially compared to the lack of color from most of these playerzzzzz....) They should just slap the court jesters hat on him and give him the million bucks.

I liked Kelley when she was an underdog against Savage and Jeremy but I didn’t like her now when she’s a snooty queen bee. I guess the underdog edit makes all the difference. I liked Aubry her first season and she made no impact her second season, almost invisible.

Never liked Joe. Why was he asked back? Dumb as rocks and not a strategic player at all. Remember the show even had a hashtag about how dumb he was? Spencer was sitting with him on the beach and said talking to Joe was like talking to a stupid toddler or something and they showed the hashtag. Something like #JoeLogic #Joechess #JoeStupid #JoeyAmazinglyDumb

[quote]If (when) he wins this season, it's not because he's some mastermind, it's because he's brining the entertainment. (Especially compared to the lack of color from most of these playerzzzzz....)

That’s why I say the Edge of Extinction idea was good. Can you imagine no Extinction and having a final 3 of Julie, Victoria and Gavin? Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz 😴 💤 Jeff would kill himself and so would the audience.

Devens is only 33? I thought he was much older especially since he has kids who watch the show. He reminds me of Jared from Subway or Jared from Jail.

This will never happen but I wish they would do a season where the whole case were LGBTQ. Lesbians, trans, gays, Bis - all of it. Can you imagine the level of cuntiness? The sex?? That would be a season to watch.

Yeah that’s not gonna happen, r290

David has a girlfriend???? lololololololololol Yeahright.

I'd expect the returnee to blab to Devens (and maybe Julie) that Lauren has an idol since Wentworth told the others at EoE when she got there. They could've left that out, but they didn't, so I'm guessing it happens.

That struck me too R293.

R293, big deal! The show has one epsilon’s left. Her secret coming out just then won’t screw her game.

Didn't Kelley told the EoE people about Lauren's idol? Should be interesting how that plays out especially with one coming back already. I'm hoping for a Chris or Eric comeback.

r289 literally everyone left is boring except Devens

r295, one epsilon eta theta

If someone from EOE were going to comeback in the last episode and win they would have given them more screen time. What a waste for all those others to be starving on an island for a month and hardly ever shown on TV. Not a strong season at all. you know it's bad when some middle aged frumpy white guy is the challenge beast.

Ron Clark in all of his jazz-handed glory.

Jazz hands? Is he gay? What is the Ron Clark Academy? He has his own school? What kind of teacher is he? Is he a dance teacher like Abby Lee Miller? Why are all his students black?

WOW. Ron Clark is famous y'all. Look it up.

Google is your friend, R301.

r300 I misread that as jizz 🤦‍♂️

I just watched Blood vs Water for the first time and I googled Caleb to see if he had dick pics and saw he died less than a year after his season ended. How sad.

R299 I love Reem's bitchy comments and shitty attitude, so I'm glad she's stuck around. Though I agree it hasn't been that strong of a season, mainly again due to most of the cast. Victoria is hideously boring and no where near as intelligent as she thinks she is. Gavin and his long drawl is like nails on a chalkboard. Rick Devons, FFS, needs a ball gag. So sick and tired of him getting so much content. Yeah I get it the others are boring as dog shit, but cast more entertaining people. I liked crazy hag Julie and her freakouts, but she's limping along. Eric, Joe & Chris were meh, just abs and beige personalities. Lauren is just another vaguely pretty, boring, young girl. I liked Aurora but her boot was so obvious.

Better cast and better editing are needed for future seasons.

Apparently, the long-time casting director was fired after EoE because producers found this cast to be one of the worst of the entire series,

I did read that R307 and her reluctance to cast young married women so they can be single and ready to mingle. Though that didn't stop slut Whitney for cheating on her husband and riding Keith's dong on the island. Full points for stamina though, I wouldn't want to fuck some stinky, filthy guy whilst starving and paranoid.

So who's winning this shitshow of a season?

I hope it's Reem! But I'm betting it's the Wendy's logo girl.

It's a minority opinion, but I think Lauren is going to win.

R310. I hope Lauren wins. Really anyone but Devens or another Extinction deject who really shouldn’t even be in the game anymore.

I hope Devens wins. He's the only one left with any personality and motivation to win. The rest just sit around and whine.

If Aubry or Reem makes it back in, I hope one of them win over anyone else.

Oh my fucking god, if Reem could get back in and WIN, after being voted out first, I would die laughing.

Rick is the only player still in the game who is consistantly winning immunity and looking for idols. He knows he’s a dead man without them. That bluff about giving the idol to Julie was brilliant, he protected her and still retained the idol for himself. What are the others doing to take control of their own game?

True competitors respect the people who beat them. Outwit, Outplay, Outlast, he’s been serving it to the jury. He has then in his back pocket. I’m surprised many people here don’t see it.

He may be serving it to the jury and the contestant who deserves it, but we’ve all seen the show before and they rarely make it to the end. He’ll be out at five or four, and three lazy imbeciles in an alliance will make it to the end. The winner will be anti climatic, but Devens and his side burns wart will be back for another season where the same thing will happen.

He's outwitted the witless. The impressive move would have been if they hadn't been scared by his bluff and voted Julie off as planned. They're a dumb bunch. Aurora was right, but she pretty much handed him the game too by saying what a mastermind he was in front of that whole hungry jury. Devins still has his idol. It's the finale. Not really sure he can lose at this point, but we can hope someone throws a wrench on their way back into the game. The fact that Probst has already said that it wasn't a successful season gives me hope that Devins doesn't get it. I disagree R314. Nobody likes that dad douche. I think a lot of the stranded jury members would vote for one of their own.

without all the idols, advantages and getting back in the game after eviction Deven’s game hasn’t been impressive. I also think Lauren wins. Jeff gives her zero airtime at reunion.

Such a blah season.

[quote]I did read that [R307] and her reluctance to cast young married women so they can be single and ready to mingle.

This isn’t Big Brother. How many showmances were there even on Survivor? People don’t watch for that.

I think the best seasons have been when the theme is pitting two distinct groups against each other (Gen-X Vs. Millennials, David Vs. Goliath). When the theme is not people-based (Ghost Island, Edge of Extinction) and the people are just randomly divided into tribes, it’s not as good. You don’t have as much incentive to root for someone, i.e. People really wanted a David to win.

[quote]Oh my fucking god, if Reem could get back in and WIN, after being voted out first, I would die laughing.

If Reem wins then that means this entire season of Survivor was played for nothing. None of the challenges mattered, none of the strategy mattered, none of the tribal councils mattered, 39 days wasted. It just all came down to Reem winning two puzzles in the finale and winning a $1 million.

[quote]you know it's bad when some middle aged frumpy white guy is the challenge beast.

How was Ron a challenge beast? Or are you talking about millennial Devens? You think he’ll only live to be 66?

Is it true Keith, Ron, and David are gay? Did the show ever hint at this at all? Did they ever do anything to ping?

Caleb did have dick pics leak. He was stupid to put his Beastmold Cowboy comic in the background.

It might make Jeff and co take stock of how stupid shit like this is R319.

R318. Boston Rob and Amber are the prime example. They even got their wedding televised so some people do watch for that aspect. There have been plenty other couples (I can think of at least 8) and lots of flirting from Parvati types. Casting traditionally have at least 1 cute chick to distract the guys each season. I think it adds something to those seasons because power couples of any degree always cause drama.

Lauren sucks, she wouldn't even be there without the help of Wardog

Devins looks and acts like he's in his mid forties, but he's only 33.

Dan's self-chosen "Wardog" moniker is so idiotic it makes me laugh, especially when watching the way he performed. That guy was consistently weak in physical challenges beyond anything I have ever seen. Most laughable was that he couldn't throw for shit and barely hit a target. His strategizing was slightly better but still that of a loser.

In conclusion, people who refer to themselves in the third person using a moronic and incorrect nickname need to be voted out first JUST FOR THAT.

I hope Wendy's loose chickens win this season. They are true survivors.

[quote]This isn’t Big Brother. How many showmances were there even on Survivor? People don’t watch for that.

I agree, but since Rob & Amber became a 'supercouple' I think casting or CBS liked that and assumed, misguidedly, that we love that sort of crap. Well the fraus certainly lap it up on facebook.

You had Taylor (who had a pregnant girlfriend back home) and Figgy in Millennials Vs Gen X.

You had Cole and the virgin girl (Jessica?) in HvHvH.

Daniel wanting something with Kara in David Vs Goliath.

Hope in Caramoan with the douche bros.

Sugar's failed showmance that ended up in a suicide attempt.

The weird misogynist/juvenile vibe in Amazon. Shawna & Alex?

Jeri wanting to ride Colby's cock and him getting pissy at her in the Australian Outback.

Anytime Parvati was on. Fuck both her and Candice were all over Adam in Cook Islands. Then Natalie Bolton wanted to get into Parvati's knickers in Micronesia.

Malcolm and Angie in Philippines.

Joe & Hali in Worlds Apart. Joaquin wanted to bang So also.

There's probably more, but you get the gist, Survivor loves showmances and really pushes them. If they weren't so exhausted, malnourished and smelly I'm sure we'd see more.

I think something like R219's scenario will happen. The people on the edge have been given an incredible bonding opportunity, they will vote for the person among them who reenters the game and makes it to the top three. All those days of game play are wasted.

Did Gavin make the moves and control the game? Lauren, Julie, Victoria? I think Rick will win because he can present a solid argument against these others. But he did have a role in kicking some of the jurors out of the game, so a returnee has the upper hand.

On the other hand, the Extinction crew may just harbor jealousy over who does return and judge them harshly. Aw, who gives a fuck?

I doubt that with boring ass Aubry there R329. She'll view the one that fucked her over the hardest the most deserving.

She may vote for Lauren for being a 'kick ass woman' but most of Lauren's game play has been shit. Even in the last episode it showed everyone's else strategy before her and Lauren's plan relied on failure to get Rick out and getting others on board (even if it was already decided). Lauren has never been portrayed as particularly strong or willful and all that negative content about being physically weak doesn't look good.

Probst did say the season was edited differently. Whether he meant those extreme close up shots on Edge or whether a returning player gets a winners edit in the last episode instead of a whole season being built around it, who knows. You're right though I'm not all that compelled either way. I'm just looking forward to Reem at final tribal council whatever position she's in.

I know most moan about bitter juries, but I'm getting sick and tired of all those 'ahh man you got me good, well played brother' platitudes and kumbaya final tribals. I miss awesome cunt Corinne giving Sugar shit or All Stars or Lisi demeaning Dreamz only for it to blow back up in her face. Everything is so sanitary and boring.

So then, after the EoE person re-enters the game, are the rest on the jury or just the last few ousters?

All of the other EoE players and those booted afterwards will be on the jury.

Production must love the new format. No wasting money on a luxurious loser lodge or fancy pre merge overseas vacation.

This awful edge of extinction season had me thinking about other terrible seasons. As I was going through the list I saw that on Season 11: Cook Islands, the contestants were divided by race! There was a Latino, black, Asian, and white triple. I know I must have watched that but I cannot remember how it all came about. Would they do something like that again in 2019?

I am r334: that should read "tribe" not triple.

I hope not, R334. We have too many divisions among us, aggravated by current affairs. I don't want anyone thinking they are the superior race.

Fiji was supposed to have been teams separated by race too, but one of the white team players (Melissa McNulty) quit the night before filming started. She had a really bad panic attack which set off her irritable bowel syndrome.

They all get the shits out there so she happened to get hers a bit earlier. She should have stuck it out. Now she'll be forever remembered as the girl who shat herself too much to compete.

Corinne also had the same problem. It must be pretty common.

She was obviously cast for eye candy, so don't really know if she had much else to offer other than that. That whole cast was recruits except for Gary, old fat guy, who quit because he had trouble breathing and chest pains.

She put a lot into her promo shots for the show. Probably aiming for Playboy.

R334 that was the season they lost the car sponsorship. It was consider bad taste at the time. I miss the curse of the car.

Lol. I'd forgotten all about the car thing. Amazing Race contestants should be very thankful there's no voting off by disgruntled also-rans since the winners of a leg get a prize.

When are we going to see a Survivor-clone show where everyone is naked, including the host? Can you imagine Chris, Eric or Wardog on the show (and the many male survivor contestants we drooled over all these years)? It won’t be a major tv network producing it, but come on Netflix, HBO and Showtime. Naked and Afraid has been afloat for a while. You know there are Survivor contestants who will drop trough. If they don’t, there are plenty of others who will.

On Rob Cesternino's podcast (contestant from Survivor Amazon) they joked that for one of the themed seasons they should do Jews vs Christians vs Muslims and call it Survivor: Holy Wars. I thought that was pretty funny.

I think the seasons with one “vs” in the title are good: David vs. Goliath, Millennials vs. Gen X.

The ones with two “vs” are bad: Hustlers vs Heroes vs Hoes, White Collar vs. Blue Collar vs. No Collar.

The ones with three “vs” are horrible: White vs. Black vs. Asian vs. Latino.

The more vs. there are, the smaller the tribes and there’s no where to hide in the first few tribals.

[quote][R334] that was the season they lost the car sponsorship. It was consider bad taste at the time. I miss the curse of the car.

They did not lose the car sponsorship then. Yao Man won a truck and gave it to Dreamz who sewered him.

Not that Caleb, R321.

[quote]Daniel wanting something with Kara in David Vs Goliath. Hope in Caramoan with the douche bros. Sugar's failed showmance that ended up in a suicide attempt. Joe & Hali in Worlds Apart. Joaquin wanted to bang So also.

How do you even remember any of this. I’m a Survivor super fan and I don’t even remember any of these people. There was a Daniel last season?? Who the hell is Hope? Sugar killed herself? Who did Sugar date on the show? There was a Joaquin on Survivor?!?

I've watched Survivor since its inception but need reminding about the car angle. Please refresh my memory.

R349, I think every season up until about Season 15, one of the Reward Challenges was to win a free car (provided by a sponsor of the show). This challenge usually happened around the Final 6 or Final 6. I believe that not a single contestant who won the car ever ended up winning the game, hence the dreaded "car curse."

I forget if there was a car reward challenge in Season 1?

Final 6 or Final 5*

Thanks, R350. I vaguely have a memory now of the car curse.

There was a car challenge in S1, Richard Hatch won a Pontiac Aztek. I believe he was the only winner to also win the car

So there is no car curse if the fist winner won the car.

Who from Exile do you think is cumming back tomorrow? I think it’s one of the vets, David or Aubry. Don’t think Kelley or Reem have a chance. Don’t think Chris or Eric have a chance at all.

Chris is just insufferable. “I want to play a perfect game, perfect game, perfect game.” How many times is he going to say he wanted to play a perfect game in the finale and at the reunion show? He played one of the worst games ever and got himself voted out instead of Wentworth because he blabbed the plan. You played yourself. The worst part is he doesn’t even realize that was why he was voted out and thinks it was because he’s a threat.

There was no car giveaway in cook island season. The sponsors did not like the tribes being divided by race.

You’re not really a super fan if you can’t remember Sugar and JT saga from Heroes Vs Villains.

We left off the romance between the Christian couple on China. They got married.

Sugar dated JT?!

It was foreshadowed that Eric is the returnee and winner - - - just my guess from the edit.

I assume Probst's disappointment with this season is driven in part by his displeasure with the player who wins the game -- so my guess is it will be the redheaded woman who is so blah that I've never bothered to learn her name.

[quote]How do you even remember any of this. I’m a Survivor super fan and I don’t even remember any of these people. There was a Daniel last season?? Who the hell is Hope? Sugar killed herself? Who did Sugar date on the show? There was a Joaquin on Survivor?!?

You probably don't remember them because the ones you listed were the generic, bland pretty people that offered nothing except some eye candy.

Sugar attempted suicide by overdose on Survivor Heroes Vs Villains. Before being flown out there for the season, Sugar started fucking JT, maybe she had feelings for him, but the overriding goal was to secure her position in a pre game alliance and she thought fucking him would seal the deal and strengthen their bond. Cue the dramatic music where JT snubbed her on the Island, didn't help her and her ass was sent packing first. At Loser Lodge she had a meltdown , took an overdose and had to be evacuated.

Gavin and wifey looking cute

Gavin on wedding day

Is this Gavin posting because no one else gives a shit here

Well Gavin is technically gay going by his comment on this picture

There is no way people as invisible as Victoria or Gavin are winning. No way Julie wins. So that leaves 95% Devens wins, 2% Lauren wins, and 3% the Edge of Extinction returnee wins.

Invisible players have won before. See Michele Fitzgerald for the most recent example. They can't show anything, if you don't give them anything to show.

What if the final 3 is Victoria, Gavin and Julie? They have to vote for one of them. Lauren hasn't exactly been a great player either.

Devens is going to have win the rest of the immunity challenges to get to the final 3. Everyone knows he'd be next to impossible to beat and want him out. And if someone like Chris or Eric returns, that decreases his chances even more. Stranger things have happened, but don't see it happening.

I'm going with Victoria winning also. Or maybe Chris or Eric if they are one of them are the returnees. The returnee could really shake things up and totally change things.

Either way, mostly likely it's a disappointing winner, since the winner of this season (whomever it is) isn't on Season 40, the all winners season.

Umm can we talk more about the Sugar drama? First I hear about a suicide attempt. Any legit sources?

Also, I thought it was Colby she was pathetically chasing while on the show?

This is more interesting than anything in the show so spill!

R365 Michele wasn't invisible. She had a lot of content from about the switch where she ended up on new Chan loh. She gave insightful confessionals and received more focus than what a pretty young girl should receive by Survivor standards so that was a red flag. Only idiots with an Aubry hard on refused to see that Michele was getting a young female winner edit that production didn't like much. Women winners always have poorer winner edits than the men. See Sandra, Natalie.

Though they still get some content. Victoria has some content but she's never the one moving the decisions and she's been too invisible for too many episodes, especially towards the end. Lauren has received more focus.

Gavin, Victoria & Julie final 3 ain't happening. For one they would have to remain rock solid to the end and Victoria has already shown she is willing to throw anyone under the bus even if it ruins her chance of winning. These three are the passengers and they lack respect from the other players. Victoria is dumb as a box of bricks so she won't take these two to the final even if she could which would be her only shot of winning.

All Devons has to do is win final immunity at 5 and make fire at 4. Very achievable.

The all winners season sounds shit. Survivor has had a lot of boring, forgettable winners that have already hogged the screen too much on their initial seasons. Besides the interesting winners, like sociopathic Brian probably aren't invited instead we'll get boring Earl, Danni, Kim Spradlin and female Carrot Top Denise.

[quote]Umm can we talk more about the Sugar drama? First I hear about a suicide attempt. Any legit sources?

Read on

Victoria would be a much better winner than Lauren. At least she orchestrated a few successful moves.

Lauren sucks -- on the show and off.

R369 Do tell, what has Lauren done off the show that sucks. I'm not a fan of her so that intrigues me.

R370, she' s very Jesus-y, quoting scripture on her Twitter, and a voter of, ahem, DL-unpopular presidents.

Thanks. Well I guess we can thank the editors for editing out the Jesus prayer circle moments. Actually a little surprised she's a on that side, especially with some of her alliances she's formed.

Really hoping she doesn't somehow pull a win out of the bag now.

Ugh, I'm not even excited about the finale tonight. It's just gonna be the Devens show and he's gonna make a big annoying fuss about his idol and he's gonna do his stupid newscaster schtick and talk about how it's all for his family and blah blah blah blah.

Not that anyone else left is any more interesting. And I'll be disappointed by whoever gets back into the game unless it's Chris's bulge.

Within two weeks I'm going to have forgotten everything about this show.

R372, here's proof.

Anyhow, I'm not too excited about any of the remaining players. I sort of hope an Extinction Island returnee wins it all. Or if anybody left in the game has to win, I guess Victoria.

Thanks R374 but I always believed you. I was just shocked she had enough intelligence to put her bible bashing away long enough to form alliances and not piss off potential allies.

Not impressed by the insta ho selfie. So glad the casting director has been fired. So many interesting and dynamic Americans and they always cast the same archetypes. Stop looking for generic pretty boring bimbo #66 or next Parvati/Jo/Survivor Geek/Crazy old hag.

I was always impressed by the former contestant that helped cast Vanuatu, especially the women. So many delicious bitchy and witty comments and interesting gameplay/moments.

“Well, Scout, you're pretty good at hiding your nasty side, but when your true colors come out, they're no part of any rainbow I’ve ever seen.”- Ami

"Ami, queens get dethroned, and lightning will strike a lone tree on top of a mountain faster than anything." - Scout

I want Gavin's round high ass to win. We're not all bottoms and that dude has a great butt. Victoria is kind of a creep, but in a good way for this game. She hasn't revealed what a shady chick she is to many of them, she might really surprise in a final tribal, if she makes it. She's completely emotionless, but has displayed a few human characteristics. Maybe she's a master of self control? I dislike Devins so much - I'd rather see one of the pale three win. Gavin, Vicky and mostly AURORA. We'll know who's winning as soon as we see who gets back in the game.

Ok so Devens has an idol and Lauren still has an idol? They can no longer use them at some point - is it after the next tribal? This is the part of the game I now struggle to track. No other advantages in play?

Devins and Lauren are both safe for one more tribal. Devins will have to play his idol and if Lauren is smart she will too - just to show that she's had one and not needed to use it.

If Devin's idol was no longer useful - he would have really played it for Julie last week.

R375 Vanuatu has so many great female contestants. Supposedly they had trouble finding good female players in recent seasons. Although I don't blame ones for not applying in more recent years due to them giving them the short shift in the editing department.

Supposedly they approached every past winner for the all-winners seasons except for Vecepia (who they despise). Although some of the others didn't have much chance getting on anyway.

Agree R379. Every woman was great. Leanne as the woman behind the woman, sweet but dumb Dolly, Ami was Iconic (I'll never forget her trying to emotionally manipulate Eliza on a reward in bed together), salt of the Earth Twila who had to endure backlash for what is now so common, Eliza the cockroach that kept on chugging along, angry Mia, Lisa being strategic and hedging her bets, only for a minor comment to send her home, shrewd passive aggressive Scout, Julie being Parvati before Parvati. Every female contributed something and each was their own person. Good luck finding that now

I call bullshit on that. There are plenty of good female players out there, but they don't fit their narrow idea of what a makes a good female player. I really miss that type of female player in Sue/Tina/Twila. Older, strong, not quite as feminine but nurturing and not your usual type you ever see represented anywhere. Instead we get joke characters that are there to be ridiculed like Shambo, Denise, Debbie, Reem (wish she would have more of a chance), Holly etc. Interesting women didn't suddenly stop applying and if they did it's because Survivor alienated them by casting constant shallow cookie cutter types, so maybe start recruiting them. Making the casts constantly younger also cuts out the different personalities and life experiences so that's another reason we get stuck with boring women that aren't engaging.

I know they didn't like Vecepia, but I didn't think they despised her. I thought that position was reserved for Michele, Denise, Chris & Sophie. Though I guess they need young winners so that explains the backflip on Michele & Sophie. I still can't believe they showed interest in Bob. He's way too old and lecherous.

The only winners I'd be interested to see back are Richard, Sandra, Todd (though is he sober?), Amazing Race Natalie & Tony

Tina - Old but watchable. She adapted her game so she could be good

Ethan - No thanks. Forgettable and boring

Vecepia - Harmless but boring

Brian - No thanks. Don't want to see yet another sadistic asshole onscreen

Jenna - Isn't she a bad meth addict?

Chris - Has Probst forgiven him yet?

Tom - Too old and too homophobic.

Danni - I don't want to watch her concealing her game play again. Another boring dud

Aras - Smug arrogant douche bro

Yul - Watching paint dry would be more entertaining than him

Earl - Anybody that sits back and witnesses homophobia but blames them is a cunt. Plus he was boring.

Parvati - I've seen enough of her. Same old gameplay. Get ready to see tits jiggling.

Bob - Too old, too much of a boring creep

JT - We only just saw him in Game Changers, and he sucks strategically.

Natalie - I know it was Russell fever, but if the bitch could only give fifteen banal confessionals, she doesn't deserve to return.

Fabio - OMFG. Fuck no. He can go piss himself in some pool in America

Rob - Maybe he'll let Probst fuck him this time around. Either way I don't want to see him.

Sophie - Lame the first go around, she won't change

Kim - I am interested to see how well she does without her dumb sycophants around her. She could be interesting.

Denise - No thanks. She didn't offer enough the first time around.

Cockran - For the love of god, fuck no.

Tyson - Smug arrogant douche, fuck no

Mike - I saw more than enough of him the first time around.

Jeremy - God no. I still have nightmares of that final three. Is Val pregnant again?

Michele - Boring and too under the radar

Adam - Does he have any more sob stories up his sleeve?

Sarah - Fuck no. She already fucked one season with her 'growth', don't want another ruined. Play like a black criminal in front of a squad of white police officers on the streets of Chicago please Sarah.

Ben - I just can't wait to see where production will place his idols. In his lap, up his ass, just have Probst gift him some at each immunity challenge

Wendell - Will Laurel let herself stop sucking his cock long enough to play?

Nick - Repug, fake, weasel & a crack whore mom sob story. Go play on the train tracks son.

I think Redmond of Inside Survivor (who has spoiled lots of casting stuff) is supposed to announce the full cast for Season 40 tomorrow.

Apparently some are networking to make pre game alliances already.

I can’t remember when I’ve ever purposely skipped a Survivor finale and reunion but I’m skipping this time.

I have no interest in these bores hashing out their boring grievances with each other. Maybe next season will be better....,

Tonight I’ll watch MSNBC rail against Republicans instead.

Is there an east coast feed to watch?

Who’s excited for the reunion show? Is Jeff going to go on and on that Survivor is really a kids’ show? Is he going to yell about Survivor being family time? Which kid (preferably female and minority) is he going to pull out of the audience and have her write “Devens” on his back? Who is he going to ignore and snub, certainly not first boot Reem?

Which contestant will have the most shocking transformation? Remember hottie Nick showing up at the reunion looking like a fat lesbian with sharp features last year?

Why does Victoria wear a big wool hat in the hot, humid jungle? It has to be 120 degrees. Her hair must be nasty under that swamp.

Thank gawd douche Joe didn't win. Tween girls have such terrible taste.

Pippi Longstocking has to be the worst Survivor ever. Void of personality and ugly.

Im going to date Ryan Renolds.

Really?

Devns has a great mouth and clearly has been designated the winner for weeks now. Find with me. Nice to see Chris and his cock back too and I am not even a size queen (but those are some great legs too).

All this time I thought Devens was a local hero to where I live but it looks like it's Ron instead, kind of a letdown. Is Devens not an anchorman in Macon, GA?

nope I was wrong. Anaconda Chris for the win. Nobody else.

Anyone but Lauren! Really, one of the guys deserve it.

Awful final 3. Chris is the least offensive of the three, but he was on Eoe for nearly a month and took the two crappiest players to go against.

Regardlessly easily one of the worst seasons ever. I can see why they opted not no pick the winner for the all-winners season.

Ugh. Have a bad feeling Gavin wins. Really, really hope I'm wrong.

You were but I was afraid like you. Kelly Wentworth pissed me off. Bitter bitch voting for Gavin. He was just too invisible. Chris fits the season's theme too, such as it is. And he looks hotter than ever tonight.

You're wrong,and I hope happy.I am.

Sweet, big dick won and cleaned up NICE

Sexy man wins

Much as I hated to see Devens lose, that fire building move was a great touch from Chris. Not sure he would've won without it.

Couild have been so much worse. Imagine a Julie victory.

Did Devens get his wart removed? I didn't see it at the reunion. He gets a 100 grand from Sia too. Oh, and her award.

I was on Gavin's side until he said that he would turn on Rick who gave him his idol. Devins really has played a great game. He deserves to win although I wouldn't mind Chris winning. Enough with the immunity idols though.

Wendy looked SO fake happy at Rick winning the Sia award. 💀 I bet she’s thinking “OKAY BUT I SAVED THE CHICKENS"

Yes, very glad Chris won over Gavin (and Julie).

Awful, awful season

Chris Underwood is such a gorgeous man!

What the fuck is it with this Sia shit? I still want to give Gavins' chest a tongue bath.

Wardong looked pissed.

I hate Boston Slob.

I wanna see that massive million dollar dong!

So the takeaway from this theme is you can lay around for pretty much the whole season and still win. No physical and mental exhaustion from comps, tribal machinations and the constant threat of being voted out. Providing fish for the others probably didn't hurt either.

Hottest Survivor winner ever by a mile! I'll say this for Chris, he didn't waste his second chance, he really played his ass off once back in the game and positioned himself perfectly for the win. And the man truly looks like a Greek god. I want to run my fingers through that curly hair ... sigh.

Mixed feelings about Devens -- he definitely spiced up the season and is charming in some ways, but he also seemed to have a real nasty streak and he could never quite let go of it. I found it rather satisfying that Chris swooped in and stole Rick's redemption arc.

Gavin was kind of a nothing player, I'm surprised he got the votes he did. And his hair looked horrible at the reunion.

Poor Julie, she didn't even get Ron's vote. Bwahahaha!

R409-And having a big dick...

Probst sure was flirting hard in that bumper scene where he told Joe he needs to cut his hair.

Yay. I can live with this.

Survivor boot camp! This next season looks AWFUL. Boston Rob again?!?!

I liked when Gavin was whining about how Chris was out of the game for so long and Wardog said, "The theme's not on trial."

Boston Rob? Fuck. At least he's not going to play again.

Probst was not flirting with Joe. Is Joe retarded? Seriously dude thought they were gonna cut his hair.

The real fuckery was production giving Chris the broken love idol as a reward for returning? Just slipped in his bag. That said, everything he did after that earns him the win. But if Aurora was the returning player, and she almost was, I bet she wouldn't have received that idol in her bag.

Why did Lauren use her idol on Chris? I didn't know it was still good for another tribal council, but she did. She felt safe and she was. She robbed herself of a guarantee in the final four. Am I remembering this wrong?

Deven is a nasty piece of work. I think they all knew it, if you have a brain you can see it. Serious anger issues up close and from miles away. I'm glad he only got t h i s close. Kelly Wentworth lost the fire-making challenge too and she's a much more interesting bitch than Devens.

I was surprised that Victoria didn't vote for her buddy Gavin to win. He never once betrayed her. She left her ski hat and the top of her dress at home for the reunion.

I didn't know Aubrey was a girl. I swear to god. I thought she was a dude or Trans. ExileofExtinction. Who knew? Kelly Wentworth is one of the people who looks much better when she's dirty and starving. She looks like one of Hugh Hefner's lesser girlfriends in real life.

Reem is kind of cool. The reunion was the best part of the season. Probst gave a little shout out to everyone. As it should be.

Sampson had his hair cut in the last hour since the finale ended!! He looked silly with his Tarzan stripper hair and now he looks like this dude.

Wow, Probst's face gets pulled tighter and tighter at each reunion.

Next season is bootcamp-style with Boston Rob and Sandra as mentors. Ugh. Sandra will rub half her team the wrong way by Day 4.

Devens seemed to be railing hard against Chris and for Gavin, but yet I thought they were tight. Bitter about not being hand-carried to the final 3 perhaps?

Who is competing next season?

Joe?

Ozzy?

Cirie?

Cochran??

The bulges this year were memorable. Chris was first but Gavin’s was floppy. The other cuties were voted off too soon to see much. I imagine at one point, you’re so dehydrated that you just let it all hang out. Wish they had behind the scenes nudity series...must be so much great content on the cutting room floor

Ever considered joining a gym or taking a walk outside R423? There are lots of good looking near naked men around.

R420, Sandra and Boston Rob are not leaders of tribes. Apparently, someone from the losing tribe will be chosen to "go to exile". The tribe won't be told that Rob and Sandra are there to act as advisors. And, supposedly, whoever goes to the island of the idols can't tell their tribe that Sandra and Rob are out there.

You can see Rob's nose hair from space. Disgusting.

R420 4 days? I give her 10 minutes before someone is giving a confessional about what a bitch she is.

I'm shocked they aren't bringing back Rupert.

So are Rob and Sandra not playing in the winners season or are they playing back to back seasons?

The Mount Rushmore statues are so corny. Can’t believe they picked Sandra over much better female players like Poverty. Sandra was such a horrible winner. She got dragged to the finals as a goat and then won because Poverty actually played the game and pissed off the jury. It was the equivalent of Julie winning because the jury was pissed off at Chris and Gavin.

Why did Sia give Devens $100,000 but only gave Donathan $10,000 when he needed it more? How much did Sia give last season and to whom?

Sia also gave Joe $15,000 to cut off his hair tonight. He said he would if she also donate the same amount to the children's cancer wig people. All of this was decided as she watches the finale from her lair. She sounds fucking weird to me. Entitled bitch or superfan? She really must have wanted Devens to win. He'll be back over and over again until he does. Has she ever given money to a female player?

Her donations are so random and meaningless. Give Wendy something for not eating the damn chickens Sia. I'd hire Aurora in a second the next time I get divorced.

Why don't other celebs donate $$$$ to their faves?

Other celebs and plain old rich folk do give money and other things to reality contestants. All the time. The just don't publicize it on live TV. Popular reality contestants seldom go back into total obscurity. They get invited to lots of parties, lesser awards shows, special events all over the country.

What makes Sia so fucking obnoxious is that she must INSIST that her "donations" be announced on the live show and be made public. While she hides under a wig. I think she must be an asshole.

Sia also gave Chris $15,000 to show her his cock tonight. He said he would if she also donate the same amount to Eric and ask him to do the same.

Worst winner ever! No wonder Jeff said this was a horrible disappointing season. The season would’ve been good had Devens won. Just shows you just how important landing the ending is to determine if a season is good or not.

I think the backlash wouldn’t be as strong if they had the returning player cum back in at final 8 instead of at the freaking finale! Then at least that player would have to play a while and prove himself like Devens did. Just to swoop in at the last second and win is bullshit. I’m surprised the jury, and especially the returning players allowed it. You’d think they’d have more respect for the game.

Agreed R435. Wendy played Survivor longer than Chris. That's why I respect the four jurors who voted for Gavin. Lauren, Wentworth, Devens and Aurora.

Sia gave Aurora 15k for "surviving foster care." What's HER damage? Insulting bitch.

Who else did Sia give money to?

Did Sia give anyone money on David Vs. Goliath?

[quote]Boston Rob? Fuck. At least he's not going to play again.

Of course he’s playing again. Did you not see the coaches season? The coaches were given a choice to enter the game at the halfway point if they press a button and cancel tonight’s vote.

Joe looks gross with his curled mustache ends. That looks disgusting on anyone. It just screams douchebag!

Ugh, as bad as this season was next season looks even worse. Enough Boston Rob already and grumpy Sandra should stay retired as well. And I know it shouldn't be about looks but the new contestants they showed had to be the homeliest bunch ever on the show.

Ms. Probst looked a little haggard and could have dressed better for the occasion. Julie looked like a whole 'nother person. Until she opened her mouth. Chris is drop dead gorgeous. Gavins' hair was unfortunate. Keith, Eric, Victoria and Lauren got nothing. Even Chris got largely ignored after his turn.

I turned it off after an hour because TOO MANY IDOLS!

Big Brother had a season where past winners served as mentors and about 1/3 way into the season, the mentors joined the game.

I'm so glad Devens and especially Lauren did not win!

Wentworth has a nasty stank face and attitude. I hope they never bring her back again.

We've seen enough of Wentworth, Aubry, Joe and David. They are never going to win. Even though you know they created the whole EoE for them to, especially Joe.

Rob is extremely overrated and overexposed, and while I like Sandra, she's had her time. But it looks like we'll have to see them both for the next TWO seasons. I expect the next two seasons to be very underwhelming at best.

I literally hated everything about this season. A low point in Survivor history for sure. I actually feel a little depressed by that shit show. We have to see Cockring in the audience again? FFS! Next season looks ridiculous and I say that as a fan of both Sandra and Rob. The obsession with returnee players is bizarre.

I wanted Gavin to win. He’s gracious enough to never admit it but I’m sure he was furious over losing to an EOE returnee. A fucking farce.

Gavin looked like Charlie Brown at the finale.

What made it a farce is that the returnee returned at the finale! If Chris returned 4 episodes ago then fine, maybe he deserves to win.

And why did Victoria turn on Gavin after promising to vote for him? She didn’t even know Chris and had never met him.

As much as I didn’t want Gavin to win, thinking back on it, I think he should have won in order for Survivor to keep its integrity. Devens was right - Gavin never got voted out of the game and he never had a vote cast against him. Wentworth agreed with him and I think she respects the game enough not to vote for someone who got voted out 3rd and spent the majority of the game on Exile island. I can’t believe Aubry and David would not respect the game like that. Joe’s an idiot so of course his vote makes sense. They could have edited Gavin like Nick last season but they gave him an invisible edit so people wouldn’t say he got robbed by Chris.

Both Edge of Extinction and Healers Vs. Hustlers Vs. Hoes would have been good seasons if they weren’t ruined by the horrible endings!

I'm not sure what to make of the finale. Was it the worst season of Survivor? Hard to say because in some aspects it didn't even feel like Survivor to me anymore.

I can appreciate the fact that producers want to tweak the formula every year to keep things fresh, but it feels like it's been so bastardized now that it's not the same show it used to be. I'm realistic enough to know that if they were playing the same game as the first 5 seasons, there would be little interest in it and it probably would have been cancelled by now. But this season seemed to feature more individual players searching for idols, to the point that I didn't really know what the alliances were. And maybe it's because the alliances were all changing week to week. It became difficult to follow, and I just sort of lost interest along the way.

I thought I would be angry if the "Edge" player won the season after having been voted out, and not part of the action for most of the season. The good news is: I wasn't angry. The bad news is: I found it hard to generate any emotions at all about it. Not bored, exactly, but... not invested in it. Which truthfully, is far worse than being angry.

[quote]Wentworth agreed with him and I think she respects the game enough not to vote for someone who got voted out 3rd and spent the majority of the game on Exile island.

She "respected" yesteryear's game. The producers changed the rules this season.

It’s not a new rule. Would anyone have been okay with Ozzy winning over Coach after he was voted out TWICE and battled his way back TWICE from Exile Island? He almost did it and was one immunity challenge win away from the $1 million.

Accurate R451. I’ve loved this show for 19 years and I feel sad after this season. It’s cannibalised itself and I barely recognise it.

Too many tears and talk of journeys and resume building. The theme for next season is taking it even further away from the concept of putting a bunch of strangers on an island to see what happens. Why do they insist on having returning players ‘show them how it’s done?’. We want to see these new people fuck up.

I swear to God if Joe comes back again I AM DONE.

[quote]Worst winner ever! No wonder Jeff said this was a horrible disappointing season.

I don't know why.

They created this Exile Island bullshit and it won a player the game.

It just didn't win whom they wanted to win (Joe).

Perhaps Sia should host next season's reunion special. Rosie did at least once.

Joe promised he would be back over and over until he won. He said he has a feeling he would play again and again. Jeff should’ve shut him down and said, “Not so sure about that, buddy. We do the casting. You don’t invite yourself onto future seasons.”

Jeff was leading Joe on in promising to return.

I wonder if Malcolm is jealous.

I don’t even understand why Joe is back. He’s never been a good player. Aubry, David, Wentworth, and Malcum made it to the end and almost won. Joe has none nothing. He’s not strategic, not a good player, not smart, not good-looking, not even a good competitor. Why is he considered a legend?

[quote]I thought I would be angry if the "Edge" player won the season after having been voted out, and not part of the action for most of the season. The good news is: I wasn't angry. The bad news is: I found it hard to generate any emotions at all about it. Not bored, exactly, but... not invested in it. Which truthfully, is far worse than being angry.

Would you guys still be feeling this way had Devens won? Would you still feel sad and empty or would you think that was a good season then?

[quote]Would you guys still be feeling this way had Devens won? Would you still feel sad and empty or would you think that was a good season then?

I think I'd feel the same way. I'm not sad, I'm just lacking any strong feelings on it because I lost interest along the way, largely because we didn't get to know any of these people that well. Although, we did get to know Rick (his family, his occupation, his sense of humor), more so than Chris.

Plus, I can think of season I liked (Micronesia) where I didn't much care for the winner (Parvati), and seasons I didn't like (Ghost Island) where I liked the winner (Wendell), so who the winner is doesn't really dictate my enjoyment of the show.

I'm surprised Chris wasn't a cock-ier player given ... well you know.

Did you know...

Matthew Perry played Ron Clark in the movie The Ron Clark Story? Alfonso Riberia played his husband.

David and Cockrum are both writers on Star Trek.

Joe has a 5-inch cock.

Aubry works as a social media coordinator for Cousins Maine Lobster.

Gavin moved up his wedding for Survivor.

Julie has an Etsy store.

Had no idea that was the same Ron Clark -- and I am even in Atlanta. How'd I miss that. For one thing, the teacher Ron Clark seemed so much fun. The Survivor Ron Clark was kind of a drag, wasn't he?

Not really. He was just playing Survivor.

I on the other hand watched it. Someone only a few of the people posting in this thread seem to have done.

Those EoE folks spent 27 or so days with Chris' million dollar schlong. Of course he was gonna win. That cobra was mesmerizing.

I wish they’d ended it with a pissing contest rather than fire.

Nah, Probst should have just pulled out a measuring tape and smiled.

Survivor: Measure Of A Man

Chris has a huge cock.! His wife is lucky.

Ashley Massaro from the China season died earlier today at age 39. Probably drug related causes since she's had addiction issues.

Probst's favoritism has reached peak ridiculous levels. He was being an over-the-top whiny brat ever since the moment his Golden Boy (Devens) lost the firemaking challenge. You could see it on his face when he snuffed his torch.

He couldn't even be bothered to wear a decent shirt on the Reunion Show.

I think it's time for a new host.

Probst has the best job in the world. I would love it. No ironic reason. He's a handsome old guy too. Yeah he has his faves, but nobody on DL ever cheers when Victoria reminds him mid challenge that she's there too? Others do on all other platforms. Aurora and I are twitter friends and she's the one fighting for gay rights, Puerto Rico, women's wombs and Democrats.

Jeff fauns over dudes not because he is gay, but the same way Alex Trebek does on Jeopardy. They subtly or not favor the men in competition. A "decent" old school white man who can't hide his prejudice. He likes a strong woman or a pretty girl, but both in one confuse him. I don't crave any of that, but I would fuck Probst back when he still had that lil bubble ASS.

To be honest, I don't mind a little host favoritism. My problem with him is that he has terrible taste. Basically, if Probst loves them, then there is a 99% I won't be able to stand them. Joe? Devens? Boston Rob?

I think there used to be a list where Probst ranked his Top 10 seasons and they were all awful. That said, I guess I can't really imagine any other host?

Devins expression when he stood up after losing the fire making challenge was exquisite. Quite a difference than the smug giddiness when his phony idols were played and he thought he had the game in the bag.

Jeff also likes Rupert....

But some of the other guys, i think Jeff wanted to get in their pants. Maybe he does.. If he likes Joe so much, why doesn't he just give him a million bucks. One nice thing I heard the main stars of "Big Bang Theory" was at one point take a drop in salary so that later additions to the main cast could get raises. Jeff is loaded after all these years on this show. Probably hangs out with some of the cameramen when they aren't on shift duty or other techs.

Probst isn't going anywhere. He's a producer also and too closely associated with the show for someone else to take over. And I'm someone who has criticized him many times for his favoritism towards certain types.

It must have been very hard for him to feign excitement for this season with so many duds making it to the end. Chris wasn't exactly Mr. Charisma, but he was an improvement over total bore Gavin and Julie who made no real movies in the game.

The premise for next season looks so pointless. What the fuck are Rob and Sandra going to tell players that will be helpful - "Hey, get people to trust you and then, like, vote them out." So much of the game is based on personal interactions, I dont see how someone from a remote location could impart anything useful. They did something similar with one episode before where Cochran came to coach Debbie while she was on Exile island and she was subsequently voted out the next episode. I guess they thought a whole season of that would be gripping TV.

You're overthinking it R476. People need to stop watching. And complaining.

That outfit Probst wore on the finale looked like he was wandering around an assisted living home.

Chris’ wife should just wear a t-shirt every day that says: “Lucky Bitch”

Jeff is always underdressed at the reunion. Just once I wish he’d swap the jumper and jeans for a sharp suit. I don’t think it’d be off brand if he did it right. They fuck with the show constantly but god forbid Jeff change up his wardrobe!

[quote]Jeff is loaded after all these years on this show. Probably hangs out with some of the cameramen when they aren't on shift duty or other techs.

Jeff does hang out with the contestants. When he had his talk show, he was always talking about his everyday life and what he did over the weekend. He’ll say stuff like “My friend Yul came over.” “I was playing poker with my boys Rob and Colby.”

I apologize if this has already been covered, but how were there 2 fake idols when Rick only hid one? And was there any strategy involved in Chris helping Julie to win immunity?

Rick made and hid two idols, found by the two women, tossed out by JP at tribal.

Chris has a huge cock. God damn, that lucky wife!!!!!!

Chris knew what he was doing. The horizontal stripes on his underwear presented everything you need to know. So, physique photographers, when are you going to ask him to pose nude for you?

For some reason, I thought Chris was older than 25. He seems much more physically mature than Gavin who is just two years younger.

Chris looks older than 25. Gavin looks his age. Simple as that.

14 of the 20 players for next season have been revealed.

R487, Gavin looks like a boy. Chris looks like all man.

In Gavin's defense, I thought he presented his case quite eloquently to the jury and did a good job defending why he felt he was a more worthy winner than Chris. It seems the editing kind of shafted him.

Julie was a mess on the jury. Her argument for winning was that she emotionally manipulated people?

Possibly the most handsome winner ever.

Hot hot hot. And adjusted to the terms of the new game and licked it. As satisfying an ending as could've possibly happened (once Devens was gone anyway).

Ahem, r491.

R493, I forgot about Tom. He was a very handsome [prematurely silver] fox. I was early 20s when he won, so he seemed like a hot daddy type to me then.

Fabio, with short hair, was cute if you're into twinks.

Just finished watching the finale.

Over the moon that smug asshole Devons lost. Did anyone else notice there was an unpleasant undercurrent to most of his interactions when things didn't turn out his way. It seemed he was seething with anger a lot of time and hid that through lame jokes and an overt phony car salesman persona. Weird & creepy.

Probst if you forgot about that red headed bitch most of the time, does that not tell you the casting sucked. If you can't remember a player when only six are left, then you've fucked the casting, dude.

Speaking of Probst he was cringe worthy as usual. What was up about talking about Joe's hair. I think Joe thought Probst was going to offer him money to cut it. Weird. Then there was embarrassing Devons, no Devons you still have your news anchor role in some Georgia shithole. CBS doesn't want you.

As usual the older woman gets overlooked. I thought Julie handled that tribal brilliantly. Did she deserve to win. No, but she deserved to get at least a vote. She did a lot more than Gavin

Kelley really hated Chris. Sucks to be you Lauren, still seething about being duped playing that idol. Speaking of passive aggressive bitter bettys, couldn't Devons sum up the courage to vote Chris for the win? As far as I'm concerned Devons fucked Chris over, and Chris rightfully declined to take him to the end. Don't get butthurt over it Devons, you pussy.

Aubry came off well in final tribal, no camera mugging or cringe inducing analogies. Shocked Probst snubbed her though in the Reunion. I guess her expiry is up, which is long overdue.

Fuck Sia, though at least she didn't show the back of her head.

Aurora looked great at both Jury and Reunion. Lauren looked trashy and slutty. Julie scrubbed up really well. She looked stunning for an old hag. Victoria looked pretty skanky. I preferred Julia's hair natural, though she still looked good. Wendy was Wendy.

A somewhat satisfying conclusion to a not so satisfying season. I didn't mind Edge, but it clearly favoured some players over others. I'd rather not see it back. It also should have been saved for a full returnee season, like season 40.

WTF was that promo for next season. Boston fucking Rob offering advice. Fuck that. He looked absolute shit in that promo. If Sandra and Rob have to come back, let them compete. I don't want to watch them play agony Aunt. What a wasted appearance for Sandra, who has really adapted her gameplay over the years.

I think a lot of the women on the jury voted with their vaginas. Ron possibly voted with his vagina too.

Reem sure did a 180 on Chris after hating him on Extinction Island. Maybe Chris boinked Reem for her vote?

R496 Reem bonded with Chris all throughout Edge. They had a couple of warm interactions sprinkled throughout the season. Once she got over her initial anger they were okay. I did love how close Aubry & Reem semmed. I thought that was nice.

Though Reem never played with Gavin or Julie, so it would be unlikely she would have voted for them and I think Reem despised Devons and was glad Chris was able to eliminate him. Her voted was locked in early. If Reem was going to get reamed it would be by Joe. Joe loves old poontang (ask Kelly Wiggles, you know the one that traded blowjobs for sandwiches).

Ron not voting for Julie was bullshit. Ron's pussy was clearly throbbing for Chris and he dumped over his closest ally and friend. Yeah Ron, real ride or die.

Why the fuck did Victoria vote Chris and include a love heart? They never interacted and why didn't she vote Gavin.

Victoria obviously wanted Chris deep inside her firecrotch.

I would have sworn that if Vicki was ever going to let anyone in her ginger pubed mound it would have been Aurora, but maybe you're right. What a skeazy little slut.

I wonder if she flashed her gash to Joe & his go pro at Loser Lodge.

The Victoria vote really threw me too. Unless she somehow thought Gavin betrayed her? Was it because she knew Gavin denies and dyes his ginger IRL?

The odds were stacked against the players that didn’t get voted out. First boots don’t usually get on the jury because they don’t know anyone or see their gameplay. That’s another major flaw with this idea. Please go back to the jury being silent and small. Once you’re voted out that’s your game done. None of this mugging for the camera and telling people you’ll be back for another go. One and done!

[quote]Why the fuck did Victoria vote Chris and include a love heart?

She couldn’t resist dotting creatively the “i’ part of Chris.

I wonder if Rob and Sandra will be eating well or getting castaway food. Rob is a fat fuck now, but I'd like to see if he has it in him to be "island hot" again.

Devens and Ron are BFF's now.

"Ron Clark is no villain! He’s one of the kindest, most generous, and fun people I’ve ever met. I ❤️ Ron and am so lucky to know him."

Devens is so homely.

[quote] Devens was right - Gavin never got voted out of the game and he never had a vote cast against him.

Devens is a hypocrite. I'm sure if he made it to the Final 3, he would have no problem believing he should win despite already having been voted out of the game.

Devens propped Gavin in final tribal to get back at Chris for helping Julie with that puzzle.

I wish we could have Aras and Hatch instead of one of these guys. But I would love for Adam and Nick to play together!!

The entire all-winners cast revealed. A mixed bag. Thinking it will be another lackluster season.

Tom should also be in there, ugh

There are rumors Tom is having some health problems. Don't know how bad they are, but might have been bad enough where he couldn't pass the physical.

A bit surprised one of Richard or Tina wasn't on. Guess they might have been deemed too old. That might have been part of the reason with Tom too.

Let's hope they get out Rob and Amber as soon as possible.

Hope Ben, Michele, Sarah, Sophie, and Tyson are all out early too.

Devens is far from homely. Great mouth, great teeth. Nice All-American guy.

Ambuh.

Wow I’m surprised they got both Rob and Amber and also Parvati to return. Her baby is still little. Ethan too. Great to see some ‘new’ returnees like Yul and Kim Spradlin come back but there are some faces i’d replace with Hatch or Tina. Hatch might still be having legal troubles with travelling. Just enough people I love and hate in equal measure there to make it interesting. Hope it’s a 2 tribe situation.

Is this all-star season different from the one Jeff was promoting for the fall? if so, does that mean we have two consecutive seasons of Rob?!

R515 Different seasons. The all-winners season won't start airing until February.

Still sounds like they will be back to back. Fall one ends at holidays, all stars starts winter of the next year, right? That's a lot of Rob and Sandra for one stretch.

When did Rob and Ambuh become Pensacola citizens? Hard to picture Rob anywhere but Boston.

But yes R515 2 seasons of Rob. You didn’t think him and Sandra bulked up for nothing did you? That’s the giveaway they’re competing.

I’m really interested to see Sandra and Parvati interact again. They were a lot of fun on HvV. The great thing about this season is that the awful Rupert, Hantz, Ozzy/Malcolm/Joe and Amanda can’t come back. Maybe they’ll do a Losers several times over season just for them.

Inside Survivor is down due to server overload—what's the full list?

🐟- Amber, Danni, Denise, Kim, Michele🤮, Natalie A., Poverty, Sandra, Sarah, Sophie

🍆- Adam❤, Ben, Ethan, Jeremy, Nick❤, Rob, Tony, Tyson, Wendell🤢, Yul

It sucks Tom can't be asked back. I feel like he can do well in this season, possibly win. I wonder who's gonna be THE 'villain'?

I still say a whole season of folks who were voted off FIRST would be great. Talk about a true second chance. And with 39 seasons, there should be plenty to choose from (and not just Reem).

Yes! A first boot season would be fresh but probably skew old so their pool of talent that can still handle it may be smaller.

Didn't Ethan have a couple bouts with cancer? I wouldn't think he'd want another round of Survivor taking a toll on his body.

I thought we might get Earl back, because he recently did an interview for Rob has a Podcast. He mentioned how busy he's been with his work, but I figured that was the usual lip service to prevent spoiling anyone.

I also figured we'd see any former winner who has already played again, like Hatch, Tina, and Cochran. While I would have liked the first two, I'm eternally grateful that I won't be seeing Cochran again.

I know this isn't a popular opinion, but I'm one of those people who enjoys it when players win even if they weren't the "typical" winner and everyone looks back on the season scratching their head. So I also would have liked seeing Vecepia, Jenna, Chris, Old Man Bob, Natalie White or Fabio. It amuses me when fans get all uppity about who "should have" won.

Nothing worse than people saying ‘so and so deserved to win!’. It’s such crap and shows they don’t get the game. Even the person who plays an amazing game can have bad luck. Just the way it goes. So many indiots think Boston Rob or Hantz are the best players ever but fail to see how ridiculous that statement is. Jeff doesn’t help matters with his obvious bias towards ‘alpha’ males (my least favourite term).

Bob and Natalie White were the worst winners ever! Of course they won’t be asked back!

[quote]Hope it’s a 2 tribe situation.

I hope so too. I hate 3 tribe or 4 tribe seasons as there’s nowhere for players to hide. Rob Cesterino was one of the first boots of All Stars because the tribe was small and he had nowhere to maneuver. If he was on a 9 or 10 person tribe, he would not have been one of the first voted out and would’ve gone deep in the game.

In BBB, Garret was one of the first voted out because there were only 5 people there. Spencer would’ve gotten voted out next (had it not been for Kass switching it up last second) and then we would never have had him as a returning character. So 5 or 6 person tribes are bad.

They would never ask Aras back because of Vitas. Surprised they didn’t ask JT or Russell back. But glad they didn’t ask Rupert or Bob. They should’ve asked Dominic, Hayden, Krissy, and both Devan and Devens.

God, looking at that S40 cast list again, it's going to be a mess. First of all, the returnee seasons always have an element of "suck" because of bullshit pre-game alliances. But on top of that:

Rob & Amber - married

Rob & Tyson - poker buddies

Rob & Sandra - already aligned from S20, and together on S39

Amber & Ethan - exes

Rob, Tyson, Sandra, Parvati - all on the same tribe on S20

Tony & Sarah - aligned and un-aligned on S28

Natalie & Jeremy - aligned on S29

And that's just the relationships that were on the show or are well-known. Prepare for a shitstorm!

It’s an all winners season R529.

More data for the "Devens is an asshole" argument ... remember how pissed he was when Ron gave him the used idol? ("You trying to make me look stupid to my family?") ... and then like three days later, he thinks it's the funniest, most delightful thing in the world that both Julie and Lauren found and played the fake idols he planted.

I'm so glad Chris dick-slapped Evil Devens!

Also, my theory for why Wentworth hated Chris: She presented hole and he declined.

We will never stop trying to make these people happen.

R525 Earl was in the finalists for Game Changes but had to pull out because of commitments so he's probably not lying. Don't know if it's the reason's he's not on Season 40. They might have just opted for Wendell since he was younger.

Vecepia wasn't asked. She was not liked by either Burnett, Probst or CBS.

Someone said they sent Brian Heidik's wife a message on Facebook asking if he was on Season 40 and she told them he was not asked. He is not that popular by those in power either, but his was name has been brought up in the past as a possible returnee.

I doubt Aras was considered much not only because of Vytas, but because he wasn't very entertaining. Many good male choices over him.

Jenna, Chris, Bob, Natalie White or Fabio are all considered underwhelming winners and not popular with those in power either. Doubt they were seriously considered. Bob is pushing 70, Jenna has had drug issues (this applies to Todd too), Probst hates Chris, Fabio is too flakey, and Natalie White pretty much disappeared from the public eye after winning.

There has been a lot of pre-game alliance making going on. This always happens on all-returning player seasons and there's nothing producers can do to prevent it. Parvati friended Michele on Instagram just days before they set to leave. No coincidence.

We'll have to wait and see if season 40 is good or dud, but in general returnee season's lean towards duds. Some exceptions of course, Fans vs Favorites and Heroes vs Villains for example.

Michele is a complete snore, I can't imagine her doing anything as interesting and conniving as involving herself in a pre-game alliance. On Max and Corinne's "All the Fixins" podcast whenever they mentioned Michele's name (when she was briefly spoken of during that season) they followed with several seconds of a dial tone, I think that is a pretty apt description of her personality.

Hatch said he was never asked. (Twitter)

[quote]On Max and Corinne's "All the Fixins" podcast whenever they mentioned Michele's name (when she was briefly spoken of during that season) they followed with several seconds of a dial tone,

Glass houses/stones.

Corinne is a cunt.

Corinne is a massive cunt but she is funny and is capable of being entertaining and not staring at the camera with an emotionless flat affect.

I wish they would have a season of the biggest freaks, weirdos, goobers, losers, and headcases (minus Brandon Hantz):

Coach

Debbie (a.k.a. ”Miss Vogue Modèle”)

Phillip Sheppard

Tarzan Smith

Shane Powers

Lill Morris

Shambo Waters

Denise Martin

Shirin Oskooi

NaOnka Mixon

Lisi Linares

Chet Welch

Wanda Shirk

Peter Harkey

Don't forget Abi-Maria Gomes!

[quote] because of Vytas,

What happened with Vytas?

Speaking of Vytas, Panama was one of the seasons I didn't see. Was Aras a good winner?

A handsome one, for sure.

Vytas was first boot on S31/Cambodia. He was supposedly butthurt about it and went straight home instead of going on the pre-merge group trip. He claimed it was because he didn't want to be away from his son, but once he got home he spoiled that he got voted out before the season began by shilling his yoga classes on Instagram. As a result, he was banned from the finale and likely from Survivor for good.

R532, Devens was kidding/joking when he said that stuff about Ron trying to make him look bad to his family. He was trying to be funny, which is what he did all the time on the show. He smiled while he stood there and said that stuff. He wasn't mad.

He WAS kind of catty though at final tribal council when he supported Gavin over Chris and even voted for Gavin. Devens, I think, was genuinely upset that he wasn't brought automatically to the final 3 by Chris because Devens thought he had earned the spot and had formed a bond with Chris.

Yeah, Chris. The guy he voted out.

R547, thanks!

Holy Fuck, Season 40 looks like a dumspter fire. So many boring players. Why are we being subjected to two seasons of Boston Ahole & Sandra back to back. I bet CBS is hoping season 39 doesn't tank because that is not going to be good going into season 40.

Season 40 should have been winners versus iconic players. Really anything but just all winners.

I haven't liked many Survivor winners, so not including Hatch just fucking sucks. Also there is no gay or lesbian representation for the first time. I get it Todd's a drunk but at least include Richard. Sad that Tina isn't there either.

Not surprised Jenna the meth freak isn't there, puppy killer Brian, walking corpse Bob or incontinent Fabio, but very shocked Mike isn't playing. Probst practically used Mike as a cum rag.

I wonder what Parvati's parlour trick is going to be this season now that her tits are down around her ankles. Free handjobs?

I've watched every season since the Australian Outback live but I think this is the season that finally gets me to stop watching. I hate nearly all of those players; Tyson, Ben & Sarah in particular.

I agree with you, R551. There haven't been many likeable winners in the history of Survivor. Hopefully, though, season 40 results in people like Tyson, Ben, and Boston Rob being early boots.

Probst doesn’t like Chris Underwood? What’s not to like?

I don’t know how you guys remember who all of these former players are. I’ve been watching I think since S13 Cook Islands and I can’t really remember who these people are. A few but not many.

I think this was my last season. I’m not interested in the next two. This one had a good finale and I enjoyed seeing Chris but otherwise it was very boring.

R553 It's Chris Daugherty that won the Vanuatu season that Probst hates. Someone posted a recent picture of him on Survivor Sucks a few years ago and he had gotten real fat too so that probably totally killed what small chance he had getting on.

I kinda got that they weren't a big fan of Underwood's either though. He could've gotten more airtime than he did. Reem and Wendy got more airtime he did. And of course they passed on having him on the all-winners season.

[quote]or incontinent Fabio

Uhhh...wha?

By the end of the game, Gavin's body was on point and he loved showing it off in the challenges. I liked seeing it too. But when he came out in the finale, I saw how different he looks in everyday life.. Chris also looked really different.

I think I'm seeing how much I've become accustomed to the fake ideal of calorie starved Instagram models being what I lust after. I need help.

[quote]Not surprised Jenna the meth freak isn't there, puppy killer Brian, walking corpse Bob or incontinent Fabio, but very shocked Mike isn't playing. Probst practically used Mike as a cum rag.

There was a winner named Mike? I don’t think so. Mike Boogie? Is Jenna really a meth addict. Has Rob C. ever talked about it on his podcast? And Brian killed a puppy?

I would have liked to see Fabio and Todd back instead of Ben and Wendell.

Probst probably seen this picture of Mike and it pissed him off. Apparently he banged Julie Berry (of the Vanuatu season and Probst's ex). I'd take him over Rob, Tyson or Ben any day. Don't dislike Wendell but not a big fan either. Domenick sould've won that season in my opinion.

Fabio supposedly blew all of his money in record time on partying.

I’m not recollecting Mike, either. What season was he on?

R559 He was on Worlds Apart.

Why don't they like Vecepia? I only vaguely remember her season, so I guess she was a pretty boring player, but is there another specific reason?

What's the story behind Brian killing puppies? All I can remember about him is that it was a surprise when it was revealed that he used to do softcore porn or something like that.

Chris Daugherty backstabbed Julie during Vanuatu, and she took great offense at it. Then she and Probst began dating after production ended, and Probst was a real dick to Chris at the reunion when he won. Probst and Julie actually dated for quite a while, and her hatred for Chris obviously influenced Probst's feelings about him.

Where can I read about Probst being disappointed with this season?

38. Edge of Extinction: Devens should’ve won.

37. David vs. Goliath: Correct person won.

36. Ghost Island: Dominic should’ve won.

35. Healers vs. Hustlers vs. Hoes: Krissy or Devan should’ve won and would’ve if it weren’t for the stupid 🔥 twist.

34. Game Changers: Correct person won.

33. Millennials vs. Gen-X: Correct person won or maybe David should’ve won. Jeff and the producers were so pissed at David being voted out at final 4 that they created the fire-making twist because of him.

32. Brawn vs. Brains vs. Beauty 2: Koaug Rong: Aubry should’ve won.

31. Second Chance: Cambodia: Wentworth should’ve won.

30. White Collar vs. Blue Collar vs. No Collar: Worlds Apart: Correct person won.

28. Brains vs. Brawn vs. Beauty: Correct person won.

28. Blood vs. Water 2: Correct person won.

27. Fans vs. Favorites 2: Correct person won.

26. Blood vs 💦: Correct person won.

25. Philippines: Malcum should’ve won.

24. One World: Correct person won.

23. South Pacific: Coach should’ve won.

22. Redemption Island: Correct person won.

21. Nicaragua: Tossup. Maybe correct person won, maybe Chase should’ve won.

20. Heroes vs. Vanilla: Poverty should’ve won.

19. Fiji: Russell should’ve won.

18. Token Cheese: Correct person won or maybe not since JT has been such a stupid player every time since. Maybe Fishbach should’ve won.

17. Fuck Island: Matty should’ve won.

16. Fans vs. Favorites: Micropenis: Circie should’ve won and would have if they didn’t pull the twist of having a final 2 instead of a final 3.

15. China: Correct person won.

14. Blacks vs. Whites vs. Asians vs. Latinos 2: Fiji: Yau-Man should’ve won.

13. Blacks vs. Whites vs. Asians vs. Latinos: Cook Islands: Correct person won.

12. Panama: Correct person won.

11. Immunity Idol: Stephanie should’ve won.

10. Palau: Correct person won.

9. Vanna White: Correct person won.

8. All-Stars: Rob should’ve won.

7. Pearl Islands: Johnny FairPlay or Lil should’ve won. Sandra did nothing.

6. Amazon: Rob Cesternino should’ve won.

5. Thailand: Correct person won.

4. Marqueso: Kathy should’ve won.

3. Africa: Correct person won.

2. Australian Outback: Colby should’ve won.

1. Original Recipe: Correct person won.

So going down the list, all the recent winners were asked back. The first diss goes all the way back to season 30 Worlds Apart. The next diss is season 27 but that doesn’t count since it’s Cockrum and he already played twice. Diss number 3 is Fabio (should’ve been asked back), number 4 is Natalie White (rightfully so). Next one skipped over is JT but doesn’t cunt since he’s played 3 or 4 times. Next one passed over is Bob, then Todd (should’ve been asked back), then Earl. Then Aras (doesn’t count), then Tom, then Chris, then Jenna, then Brian, Vecepia, Tina, and the biggest diss, Richard 🐣!

So basically all the winners in the past decade are back and then a few stragglers from the decade before.

Thanks, R560!

Many people seems to be forgetting Marcus from Gabon (S17). He absolutely should've won that season, but was screwed by production deciding not to merge just to break up the Onion Alliance.

I like the understated nature of most of the players listed on the All-Winners season. We might actually get to see some real strategy and gameplay instead of one or two players mugging for the camera.

Cochran has said that since he won he would not do another survior.

Cochran has some steady television writing gigs (thanks to his connections at CBS) so he doesn't need to play again. I'm sure if he didn't have a job like that, he would've came back.

Cochran is fairly hated on some other Survivor forums, and when I inquired why, he apparently was a bit of an internet troll as a teen. Well to his credit, he was an immature kid then, but his persona was rather foul. He used to go by the name Gumby.

I don’t see how Cochran can come back now he works for CBS. Most game shows don’t allow that or even family members of staff.

I’m confused - did that Mike guy win? I have zero recollection of him. 40 is only for winners

R556 most of them are fatter than they’d normally be at reunion. It plays with the metabolism so much I always give them a pass if they look a little bloated. This season I’m going to say everyone bar Julie looked better on the island. It’s my kind of diet!

Vecepia isn't disliked, I don't think, it's just that she's not really respected as a player because she was completely under the radar. Her key alliance was with Sean, but she didn't seem to have many other relationships out there. It was just that there was always a bigger target than her. In a way, she would have fit in well with this last season, where anyone who made a move got struck down quickly, and you had quieter players reach the end.

I actually like Marquesas quite a bit, it was the first season where the players realized what alliance was in control and flipped on them. Very satisfying to watch. I would have liked to see Vecepia play again, just because I'm all about getting contestants from those earliest seasons back. But realistically, it would probably be a short stay for her, I don't think she has relationships with the other winners, and she wasn't a challenge beast 18 years ago, I can't imagine she'd be one now. Early boot material.

People saying they don't remember Mike must have skipped Season 30 altogether!

He was one of the biggest characters on the show and had a huge underdog edit.

I thought Reem looked great at the reunion too.

Mike was like an earlier version of Ben, where everyone wanted to vote him out. He kept winning immunity, so was safe from the vote, except for one vote where he lost the challenge but had an idol.

He was a blue collar guy, aligned with Rodney, Sierra, and Dan (the obnoxious fat guy) until we tried to screw them over in the auction, so became a huge target. He had a weird voice, always sounded like he had a sore throat.

But Chris U won that season right? Honestly I’m hoping that after 40 we don’t see any returnees for a long time. If season 41 sucks I’ll think about giving the show a rest.

I didn't hate Mike as much as some did, but Rodney impersonating him was one of the best things that season.

[quote]There was a winner named Mike? I don’t think so. Mike Boogie? Is Jenna really a meth addict. Has Rob C. ever talked about it on his podcast? And Brian killed a puppy?

I would have liked to see Fabio and Todd back instead of Ben and Wendell.

Do some fucking research instead of just saying no. Mike Holloway winner of Worlds Apart.

Yes Jenna really is a meth addict. Her and her friend were driving, then stopped in the middle of the road, Police were called and she fled the scene. There was all sorts of drug paraphernalia in the car. She hasn't been doing well for years now.

R558 I thought Fabio brought his family a house? I know he did use all his money within a year though.

R575 I don't mind returnees, but we keep getting the same recent ones. I actually loved the concept of Second Chance with fan voting, so did everyone else, so I'm disappointed it hasn't been back. I'm betting production must have hated the outcome because it hasn't been back and players that nobody wanted to see again (Culpepper, Troyzan) were brought back by production.

R562 No idea, but it was obvious this season was designed for the likes of Joey Amazing to come back in case he got voted out and win the challenges and snatch the title. Production must have been super pissed that two returning players got voted out with idols in their pockets. Also not helping was that Production favourite couldn't take the win after having numerous idols and advantages chucked at him.

Jenna, she also overdosed and needed narcan.

Jenna hit the skids after her father died and Ethan dumped her and soon after married another woman.

I'd feel sorry for her, but Christ she's pushing forty? Also if her parents meant that much to her being an only child, why did she abandon them to go play All Stars when her mother was dying of terminal cancer, only to quit. Yeah life sucks and throws shit your way but taking to drugs and throwing a pity party for one isn't the answer.

A sadistic part of me wanted her back on so she would have to face Ethan and we get another meltdown Hantz style.

They should bring Skupin back one more time.

Jenna was very spoiled and it showed on Amazon and often for years after. It must've been a very hard for her to see Ethan find someone else so quick after all they went through together and then marry her so quickly. That's one thing I'll say for her, she was there for him the whole time he was sick. They were together for 10 years too, so it wasn't a minor relationship.

Still though, you have find some way to get through shitty things in life, other than getting high to ease the pain.

We should have a season of returnees, Cons Vs Cops

Cons

Debbie, Richard, Skupin, Jenna, Vytas, Fabio, Jennifer, Drew Christy, Christa, Russell

Cops

Tony, Sarah, Ken, Bret, Maralyn, Cristina, Amy, Val, Debb (I fucked my stepson), Betsy

Is Maralyn still with us?

Yeah, but suffers from depression and ill health.

Boot Camp with Mad Dog could be fun!

Afterwards they get voted off and go to sensitivity training with Jeff Varner.

R582 Ethan was a known pussy hound though. He fucked Jenna Lewis, Boston Rob's Ambuh, one of the Kims from Africa and that's just Survivor players within a year.

Jenna is a meth addict

Ambuh

Mad Dog Maralyn was great. She's a lesbian, right?

She was proud of her weight loss after Survivor and it was funny when she showed off her bikini bod. Not bad for a woman her age.

Ethan can fuck me anytime!

Why has deaf Kristy never been asked back?

They should also ask back that country cowgirl Elizabeth. Maybe have her play with Donathan. The theme could be Country Bumpkins vs. City Folk.

Country Bumpkins: JT, Elizabeth, Donathan, Nick, Tai, Cowboy, Jordan, Sam, Rockstar, Steven Daigle

City Folk: Stephen Fishbach, Eliza Doolittle,Hannah, Krissy, Ryan, David, Cockrun, Nakomis, Tyler, JC

[quote] They should bring Skupin back one more time.

The terms of his parole might not allow for that.

Mike and "Grandma" Meg Maley from BB17 have been together for a couple of years now.

[quote]A sadistic part of me wanted her back on so she would have to face Ethan and we get another meltdown Hantz style.

Now that's just cruel.

Really sad they didn’t ask the winner of Season 39 to play back to back. Was looking forward to seeing her again.

[quote]Now that's just cruel.

I was thinking of your OD when I posted it. Another fucked up slut taking her life because she's weak. I'm about to orgasm

Go eat Eliza's pussy some more, Corinne.

So you finally found a man that's gonna fuck you longer than a night, good for you Sugar