If you’re thinking about joining Sinemia, DON’T!!! ✋🏻🚫

Both Sinemia and Movie Pass have business models that are unattainable as they are buying the tickets from the movie theater. AMC was going to start a subscription service. One tied to a movie chain would be my choice.

How do Sinimia and MoviePass make money?

They don't R2. They're bleeding cash.

R1 I live near multiple AMCs and been loving AList.

AMC has the $5 Tuesday deal, well at the least the one my mom goes to. No limit, every movie, any time, is $5 every Tuesday EXCEPT if it's a holiday.

I don't go to movies much anymore but that seems to be a pretty solid deal. Of course, my mom is retired so Tuesdays work for her.

R2 Movie Pass is basically bankrupt and they bankrupted their parent company as well. They were trying to make money off credit card transaction fees. Sinemia is a European company. France has a subscription service that seems to work well but most of the cinema chains support it.

MoviePass was great before it collapsed but I knew it could never last.

[quote]They don't [R2]. They're bleeding cash.

I know they’re bleeding cash but how did they think they were going to make money. Offering unlimited movies a month for $7.99 a month does not make mathematical sense. How is that a business model? It’s unsustainable.

The CEO of Sinemia gave a disastrous interview with Indiewire where he refutes many of the complaints and just dances around the problems customers are having.

Sinemia terminated people’s accounts when Caption Marvel came out because they did not want to pay for all those tickets. Then they disabled everyone’s app when Us came out since it was going to be a big movie that everyone wanted to see. The app is still disabled since Dumbo and Shazam came out and they don’t want to have to pay for people buying those tickets. And there’s no way they’re going to turn on their app when Avengers End Game comes out since paying for all those tickets would bankrupt them. So they probably won’t turn on the app until May, after the End Game hype dies down. But then it would be summer blockbuster time so most likely they won’t turn the app back on til September when no popular movies are out.

R7 Their business model was based on electronic transaction fees from credit cards.

They recently reneged on their Premium Plan -- unlimited movies.

I PUNCHED AND DELETED.

MoviePass was good while it lasted. I guess it's back to paying full price and streaming bootlegs again.

[quote][R7] Their business model was based on electronic transaction fees from credit cards.

What? That makes no sense. I only paid them once with my credit card for my membership. How are they making money off my credit card fee?

No. Sinema is a bait & switch con and I want everyone to know it. I don't want special treatment or a free credit while this company continues to rip off hard working people who thought they were getting a deal. Most of them don't have a large platform to speak out, but I do.

R12 Sorry. I should have said "transactions on debit card fees."

R12 Also, they were planning on selling lots of movie goer's data to the studios.

R14, debit card fees from whom? Most people bought their memberships with credit cards. And wouldn’t ANY business who takes credit cards and debit cards be making these fees too? So how is this a business model?

Who the fuck knows, r16? We just work here.

MoviePass was the Fyre Festival of the cinema.

The AMC program is the only one that makes sense. Everything else is just a scam.

R13 who is Trevor Donovan and why isn't he inside of me right now?

I’m still using Movie Pass. There was a rough period last year when I had trouble with the app plus when it did work often there were no available screenings. Of course, I’m disappointed that it’s no longer a movie a day every day, but it’s become pretty reliable lately and three movies a month for $9.95 is still a huge savings. For the last movie I saw, Gloria Bell, the actual ticket price at the theater was $17.50!

Are we still pretending that there are 3 decent movies every month? Maybe if you like superheroes, otherwise what is the point? All quality entertainment is on tv these days.

[quote]I’m still using Movie Pass. There was a rough period last year when I had trouble with the app plus when it did work often there were no available screenings. Of course, I’m disappointed that it’s no longer a movie a day every day, but it’s become pretty reliable lately and three movies a month for $9.95 is still a huge savings. For the last movie I saw, Gloria Bell, the actual ticket price at the theater was $17.50!

Same here. It's really a saver for indie films because the two big indie theaters nearest to me charge $18 and that doesn't include the service charge when I buy tickets online, so MoviePass is great in that regard. I just have to wait a bit later to see it versus opening weekend.

R21, there are tons of great movies - not superhero movies - available through MoviePass... foreign, indie, documentary, classics and more. Here are just some of the movies you can see right now with MoviePass:

Us The Wind Babylon I Can’t Sleep Mirai White Material Peterloo Diane Transit and on and on

I desperately wanted to go to the movies this past weekend (for the popcorn) and couldn't bear sitting anything that's in theaters now. Huge release, documentary, indie favorite...it's all just dreck that costs 30 bucks (ticket and my oily-ass popcorn). Why bother?

R23, you can only see those movies and nothing else? No Shamwow or Caption Marvel or Pet Cementary? Is it a limited list?

Hi, R23. Yes, you can also see blockbusters and action movies and kids’ flicks, absolutely. I was just trying to say for people looking for less mainstream fare, MoviePass is also good.

[quote]But then it would be summer blockbuster time so most likely they won’t turn the app back on til September when no popular movies are out.

It: Part 2 comes out in September, they probably won't customers buying tickets for that one.

So they’ll probably turn the app back on in December once It 2 and the Fall movies leave theaters. Sucks for annual pass holders who won’t be able to use the service until then.

R4 as of this week/month, it's now $6 Tuesdays if you live in the state of CA, CT, DC, GA, IL, MA, MD, NJ, NY, VA

Everywhere else I believe it's still $5.

I want Trevor Donovan to be my husband so badly.

They actually shut the app off so you can't use it? How can they legally get away with that?

Business models that are solely and wholly based on breakage are dubious.

In most cases, you can't depend on a business model where your customers will pay for more than they actually receive.

MoviePass has added a new restriction on my account -- I cannot pickup tickets any sooner than three hours before showtime, which means I can't buy in the early afternoon for an evening show.

Of course, usually by evening "there are no more screenings at this theater."

Assholes. And I mean that in a negative way.

After dealing with MoviePass and Sinemia and having major headaches, I found the best way to save money is just to buy matinee movie tickets at the box office. I wasn’t saving any money using those services and was actually losing money with Sinemia since they stole my money.

If you buy a matinee ticket for $9 or go to discount Tuesdays at night at AMC for $5, it’s cheaper than paying a monthly subscription. And if you go to two or three movies at once, you save even more money.

OP is exactly right.

I cancelled my subscription in March when they reneged on their terms for a premium membership. I only switched to them after MoviePass reneged.

My guess is that Sinemia was never well-known enough to have the capital to honor its terms for all of MoviePass's customers. And I think thousands of us tried to migrate to Sinemia once MoviePass was a bust and it almost bankrupted Sinemia.

There's no legit subscription service now and I'm just afraid that all of the discount memberships offered by the theater chains will end because MoviePass isn't competing.

Remember that the AMC movie chain offers 3 movies per week through their program, which can save a frequent user lots of money.

The problem with the AMC subscription is that I don’t watch $24 of movies a month. That’s $288 per year. $9.99 a month was reasonable.

Anyone who still has MoviePass is an idiot.

The problem with the AMC program is that there are not 12 different movies a month that i m remotely interested in seeing.

But i guess if I see two or three full-priced releases I will come out ahead...

AMC is great (I have 5 near me). Depending on the schedule, I see 2-3 to 8-9 a month. Either way, I come out ahead. And I'm willing to take more risks on stuff I might've waited for Netflix.

Even though technically I’m saving money with MoviePass, it was for movies I never would have paid for in the first place. And I had to play games and jump through hoops to even see those movies I didn’t want to see. I’m much happier now just paying for the movies I want to see.