Tax Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 95)

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Previous thread titles for reference:

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation (10/27/17)

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation, Part Two (10/28/17)

The Four Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 3 (10/31/17)

A Man For All Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 4 (11/5/17)

It's Beginning to Look a lot like Treason! The Mueller Investigation Part 5 (12/4/17)

Treason Is The Reason For The Season! The Mueller Investigation Part 6 (12/16/17)

Treason to Believe (The Mueller Investigation Part 7) (12/26/17)

I Love You For Sentimental Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 8) (1/3/18)

Give Me One Treason To Stay Here... (The Mueller Investigation Part 9) (1/15/18)

Treasons of Love (The Mueller Investigation Part 10) (1/24/18)

For Treasons Which Are Well Known To Them (The Mueller Investigation Part 11) (1/30/18)

Come on and Treason Down, Treason Down the Road (The Mueller Investigation Part 12) (2/6/18)

13 Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 13) (2/18/18)

By Treason of Insanity (The Mueller Investigation Part 14) (2/23/18)

The Edge of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 15) (2/28/18)

A Treason to Live; A Treason to Die (The Mueller Investigation Part 16)…(3/10/18)

Treasons of the Heart (The Mueller Investigation Part 17) (3/17/18)

A Stormy Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 18) (3/21/18)

Lovin', Touchin', Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 19) (3/26/18)

Everything Happens for a Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 20) (4/4/18)

For All the Right Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 21) (4/11/18)

Treasons Change (The Mueller Investigation Part 22) (4/16/18)

Dangerous Tre'asons (The Mueller Investigation Part 23) (4/22/18)

Don't Stop (the) Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 24) (5/1/18)

Got This Treason in My Body (The Mueller Investigation Part 25) (5/7/18)

I'm Treason on a Jet Plane... (The Mueller Investigation Part 26) (5/14/18)

Treasonnaires' Disease (The Mueller Investigation Part 27) (5/21/18)

You've Lost That Lovin' Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 28) (6/2/18)

Multiple Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 29) (6/9/18)

For Undisclosed Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 30) (6/18/18)

The Apple Doesn't Fall Far from the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 31) (06/23/18)

Treason d'être (The Mueller Investigation Part 32) (06/30/18)

My Treasons Are Not My Own (The Mueller Investigation Part 33) (07/08/18)

The Treasons a Baby Cries (The Mueller Investigation Part 34) (07/13/19)

Get to Know Your Family Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 35) (07/15/18)

All You Got To Do is Hold Him And Kiss Him and Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 36) (07/17/18)

Fall or Spring? Which Would / Wouldn't Be Your Favorite Treason? (The Mueller Investigation Part 37) (07/18/18)

It's the Time of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 38) (07/21/18)

My Treasonal Summer Job Abroad (The Mueller Investigation Part 39) (07/25/18)

Yellow is the Color of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 40) (07/27/18)

The Treason for my Life's Trials and Tribulations (The Mueller Investigation Part 41) (07/31/18)

Hunting Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 42) (08/04/18)

It's Swimsuit Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 43) (08/07/18)

Treasonably Priced (The Mueller Investigation Part 44) (08/12/18)

Tre45onal Affective Disorder (The Mueller Investigation Part 45) (08/16/18)

A Plea for Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 46 (08/21/18)

Untreasonably Hot (The Mueller Investigation Part 47) (08/22/18)

There is a Treason... Turn, Turn, Turn (The Mueller Investigation Part 48) (08/24/18)

The Voice of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 49) (08/28/18)

The Golden Age of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 50) (09/03/18)

Treasons for Remaining Anonymous (The Mueller Investigation Part 51) (09/08/18)

Hurricane Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 52) (09/16/18)

All Natural Mushroom Treasoning (The Mueller Investigation Part 53) (09/22/18)

Treasoning with an Alcoholic (The Mueller Investigation Part 54) (09/28/18)

Judicial Treasoning (The Mueller Investigation Part 55) (10/06/18)

Treasons for Hidden Genius (The Mueller Investigation Part 56) (10/15/18)

Trick or Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 57) (10/25/18)

Several Treasons to Get Out and Vote in the Midterms (The Mueller Investigation Part 58) (11/5/18)

Heading Back to the Magical Keebler Elf Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 59) (11/11/18)

It's Turkey Picking Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 60) (November 18, 2018)

Stepping into the Holiday Treason! (The Mueller Investigation Part 61) (November 26, 2018)

Treason's Greetings! (The Mueller Investigation Part 62) (November 29, 2018)

Spirit of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 63) (December 3, 2018)

'Tis the Treason to be Jolly (The Mueller Investigation Part 64) (December 5, 2018)

Celebrate this Holiday Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 65) (December 8, 2018)

Treasons to Get out of Solitary (The Mueller Investigation Part 66) (December 10, 2018)

Numerous Treasons For Silence (The Mueller Investigation Part 67) December 12, 2018)

Treasons We Celebrate This Season (The Mueller Investigation Part 68) (December 15, 2018)

Trimming the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 69) (December 19, 2018)

O Christmas Treason, O Christmas Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 70) (December 22, 2018)

Treasons We'll Be Ringing in the New Year (The Mueller Investigation Part 71) (December 27, 2018)

Treasons I'm Coming For You (The Mueller Investigation Part 72) (January 3, 2019)

A Shutdown is Perfectly Treasonable (The Mueller Investigation Part 73) (January 6, 2019)

Treasons I'm Focused (The Mueller Investigation Part 74) (January 10, 2019)

Treasons We Need A Wall (The Mueller Investigation Part 75) (January 13, 2019)

Mid-Treason Replacement (The Mueller Investigation Part 76) (January 15, 2019)

A Treasonable Request (The Mueller Investigation Part 77) (January 19, 2019)

Treasons to Postpone (The Mueller Investigation Part 78) (January 23, 2019)

Swinging from the Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 79) (January 26, 2019)

Sweating Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 80) (January 30, 2019)

I'll Be Your Girl For All Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 81) (February 4, 2019)

House Cleaning Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 82) (February 9, 2019)

For Emergency Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 83) (February 15, 2019)

Treasons I Speak (The Mueller Investigation Part 84) (February 19, 2019)

Treasonable Preparations (The Mueller Investigation Part 85) (February 23, 2019)

Treasons for Redemption (The Mueller Investigation Part 86) (March 1, 2019)

Treasons to Watch (The Mueller Investigation Part 87) (March 7, 2019)

A Treasonable Amount of Time (The Mueller Investigation Part 88) (March 11, 2019)

Treasons I Have Veto Power (The Mueller Investigation Part 89) (March 18, 2019)

Treasons I've Submitted My Report (The Mueller Investigation Part 90) (March 22, 2019)

Treasons to Continue On (The Mueller Investigation Part 91) (March 24, 2019)

Treasons For a Barr Cover (The Mueller Investigation Part 92) (March 24, 2019)

Treasons to Protect Our Assets (The Mueller Investigation Part 93) (March 26, 2019)

Treasonable Interference (The Mueller Investigation Part 94) (March 31, 2019)

Tax Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 95) (April 6, 2019)

Senate Republicans can’t explain why they keep blocking a resolution calling for the release of the Mueller report

Someone on the previous thread was wondering about what connections Barr might have that would make Trump comfortable with him, given his previous connections to the Bush family. Turns out that was a smart thing to wonder about. Here you go...

today was an annoyingly slow day but I guess it's good for a change for a story to linger. The more Barr gets tagged with being Trump's unethical defender, the better

OP - Thank you for that funny graphic instead of one of those vomit-inducing pictures of Trump we had to look at every time we hit on the thread.

Little things mean a lot!

Brilliant title.

This is the most corrupt administration in our history. Not a single cabinet member is clean. They're all slime. I hope they all go down. Barr, Mnuchin, De Vos, Carson, Ross, and the rest.

Herman Cain is a friend of mine. We trade stories about pussy-grabbing 'n shit.

I guess Seth is on Bill Maher, what he is reporting is explosive. I hope Rachel or someone pick it up.

When Rick Perry may be the most competent and ethical cabinet member of the bunch, that's quite dismal.

Details, R12?

Good title, OP. But expect Miz Lindzey will be featured again. She craves attention, and will do things to become the most noticed again. It's the weekend, & menz are waiting.

That tax return is obviously fake. Trump would have claimed a refund of at least a few million.

I had to check that this wasn't an April Fool's joke; what da fuk?

The media is focusing, day after day, all day, on Joe Biden's touchy-feelie history as a politician. It's old news.

Meanwhile, scandalous Herman Cain, is being resurrected with a nomination to the Federal Reserve Board.

What about some coverage of other news:. Venezuela, UK-EU, fixing immigration issues, trade controversy, Middle East, environmental matters, etc.?

R18 Agreed! They aren't covering Dump's flip flops on closing the border, funding the wall and his inhumane immigration policies. What about the trade war with Gina and sanctions with Russher?

"People who know, know BDO"

Bill Doing Obstruction ?

Sign of the times, those non-violent, totally not racist Trump cultists.

Trump supporters first pepper spray, then yell "n****r lover" to 15-year-old protester in Paul Ryan's hometown

r12....Seth Abramson is on Maher NEXT week.....the guy on the show last night was Salman Rushdie.....and kudos to him for making the connection between Trump, Deutsche Bank, and Kennedys son and Kennedy himself.

... and yet Clarence Thomas still sits quietly on the U.S. Supreme Court.

Advice to Miss Thang of Capitol Hill when she goes to help redact again this weekend.

Trump's Beverly Hills campaign fundraiser attracts ZERO celebrities.

r25 A common pricing error. $150 tickets would have brought out Scott Baio, James Woods, Stacey Dash, Melissa Joan Hart and Antonio Sabato Jr. That's $750 greater than zero. What was Roseanne's excuse for not buying a ticket?

LOL what a pathetic showing from MAGA.

Per the article:

[quote][italic]The event, whose location was leaked to TMZ, drew a tiny crowd, with four flag-clad supporters in MAGA hats[/italic]

So only 170 guest + 4 MAGA supporters in sidewalk. How embarrassing for the president.

But wait! This is the best part:

[quote][italic]Shawn Steel told the Washington Post that during his speech [bold]Trump talked at length about winning California during the 2020 election[/bold][/italic].

that poor thing.

Trump now

Does anyone else think that Muriel is the actual OP of these threads?

^either her or that sneaky George, Kellyanne's hubby.

Last night's overtime....

I just can’t wait for Trump, the Trump family and the Trump family name to be utterly destroyed in the coming years.

Hey OP - title suggestion for next thread: What about 96 Tears of Treason (or some variation thereof...)

"Leaked to TMZ" LMAO. You mean his friends there posted it in hopes of getting his cockroaches to show up. Once again, anyone who reads, watches or posts TMZ is pure and utter trash.

People I know, even those who are deplorables, are growing bored and alarmed with Pres Bone Spurs' antics. He only has the great economy he inherited and even that he is fucking up,

Did anyone see the shit Roger Stone posted about Barbara Bush? He is she is dead and he is President so who won? It is laughable to see how even your average GOPer (and Stone is not that) debase themselves for Pres Bone Spurs. They're all a bunch of demons.

Republican Pro-Trump scientists and Fox News contributors, DIAMOND & SILK, insist climate change is due to the earth rotating at 1,000 mph.

R36 the ones I know are still in the cult firmly and do not question him. If Fox "News" won't turn on Trump, neither will most of his dumbass base

What Steve Doocy. thinks? Stupid ideas being promoted on Fox. And their audience believes this nonsense?

Trump & Deutsche Bank

if we don't get a new bombshell by Monday I'm gonna be so pissed. Trump and all his associates need to be dragged through the mud and then indicted

R12 Seth will be on next week.

Maher's been good on the foreign influence story of the Trump administration.

How many times are we going to hear the trolls say "ya well his supporters I know are turning against him". Funny that his poll numbers haven't changed in almost 2 years Lol. Yet month after month they try and act like deplorables are jumping ship. Even if some idiots are "tired" of him they lasted long enough to know within a few weeks they'll be back to loving him. And they'll still vote for him. No one cares that your made up friend at work 'is tired' of the orange beast.

It literally takes a Mexican or Black walking by those fake made up works friends at work to push them back to voting for Trump.

NONE of them have changed and NONE are pretending to change their minds & votes.

#FakeNews

They are racist Deplorables through and through.

I want to sue someone. I was a victim of fraud in the 2016 election and and ongoing victim of fraud by the administration and their partners overseas.

I was intentionally mislead by Fox News and the campaign. As were all Americans.

Do I/we have a case?

all the people being or having their loved ones harassed, misled, gaslighted and forced to sit by and have their country sold off for parts are suffering greatly. Their loss can be demonstrated in a court of law.

Does that mean we are are entitled to damages?

Come on, legal types! Let’s get a case going for John Q. Public. He has suffered greatly at the hands of these crooks.

What about all the MAGA victims that have been beaten or killed? Can’t their families sue the admin?

Somethings got to give.

My email address was stolen fraudulently from the DNC by the Sanders hacking and then used by both the Sanders and Trump campaigns. I personally would love to sue.

Me too.

As for that dinner meeting Trump had with Murdoch, McCarthy and Hicks? Very interesting. They are plotting their strategy and probably picking McCarthy to find out what they can about Pelosi's operation. What I find interesting is that Devin Nunes, also a Congressman from California, was not at the meeting. Hope Hicks is VP at 21 Century Fox now, making very nice money.

From what I gather a third (33%) of the electorate are his unwavering base. Another 8% to 11% are his somewhat "softer" supporters. Around 51%-52% won't vote for him at all. Maybe 7% to 8% are undecided independents or uninterested.

I could see 4%-5% of the electorate who voted for Trump in '16 changing their minds, particularly if there's a downturn in the economy.

Democrats have the numbers, but TURN-OUT is critical. Those older Trump supporters, 50+, will show at the polls.

Three or four states have got to be flipped.

Perhaps my figures are off, and others have better projections. I look at the polling, but Trump has stayed in the same range throughout his term. There is definitely a ceiling established, but also a base for him holding firm.

Hope Hicks?

Again.....

I think a class action suit is in order. You would think we’d be seeing Big Law getting in on this. I can see the 1-800-number commercial now:

Have You Been Injured in the 2016 Election? Call Now for a Free Consultation!

R18, Sex, or now touching, sells.

Neither media bosses nor most reporters want to cover serious issues. They're work!

We are conditioned to just pay attention to flashy buzzwords and news item titles. The details (are supposed to) bore us.

R38 I'm not talking about his cult base. I am talking about the 10% who identify GOP, who voted for him, who may vote for him again but I see them getting fed up with this shit. He is already below water with their support. He cannot afford to lose any of them if he wants to win.

Although if the Dem candidates don't shut up about reparations, Trump might not have to try all that hard. This bs is starting to scare me.

Doesn't matter if they shut up now. There is enough on video for the republican commercials.

Divisive Trolls at R57 & R58.

Check out R58 's posting history.

thanks R59.

Already had R57/R58 on block

So Hope Hicks has got to be one of his whores. You don't see a lot of other 20-somethings fawning all over him.

I think he's surrounded himself with idiots and losers because he knows they will never turn on him.

They owe their positions to him. They're all a bunch of idiotic has beens who have been voted out of office, kicked out of jobs and run out of town. They know they are too dumb to get other gigs this good so there is NO WAY they turn on him.

He knows he can get them to cover for his crimes because they owe him.

He learned his lesson with Rex Tillerson.

Never hire a person so rich that they won't suck your dick.

That HAS to be a Ferengi Rule of Acquisition.

LOL! They're using Biden's handsy-ness like they used "E-mails!" and they just took a poll in Iowa...Biden is way out front. In the lead. So pour it on Media.

It’s not sticking to Biden. Everybody already knew he was touchy-feely.

Enough with the ancient relics.

These three products had ads on Tucker Carlson's show tonight

That's how bleak his ad breaks are.

I dare a journalist...ANY journalist...to ask Trump to denounce the racist douchebags mentioned in r21's link. Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Did anybody see AM Joy this morning? She had one of her regular guests on. This black guy, a democratic strategist who I mostly find annoying because he's loud and combative. He has wild hair. However, he was going off on Mitch McConnell this morning, and he was dead on! I'm starting to like him very much. I searched for a clip but couldn't fine one.

If anyone else saw this, please give more details. Thanks.

Was the guy's first name Cornell? Had grey hair?

Girl, was that Cornell?

r70, big faux pas there. We must hate Cornel.

He’s been put through the ringer on twitter and Reddit this year. I hope they keep it coming.

^ Mitch that is.

The guy you're talking about, I think his name is Cornell Belcher. He's annoying but really smart.

I think it was Cornell West. Usually I can't stand him and ff when he's on, but he made some great points today. (if it was him!).

I doubt it was Cornel West. No way. He hated Obama and attacked him called him names and was irrationally hateful. He has avoided TV appearances for a long time. He may crawl out from under his rock for BErnie. He was a huge Bernie Booster. Like he was Bernie's "Black Spokesman." LOL! Joy Reid, OTOH, worked for Obama before she was on MSNBC contributor.

You talking about me?

You talking about me?

OK. I know who you mean. He has a blog or a website, heavy set guy, glasses, grey hair work in a sort of Afro and he might be Gay. Definitely not Cornel West...or Belcher.

I just saw a screenshot from her show and R81 is correct. That is not Cornel West or Belcher. I watch a lot of MSNBC and don't know who that is.

lol you all mean Elie Mystal. He's a hoot. I enjoy listening to him because he HATES republicans and wants Democrats to more aggressively take power

and no he's not gay shockingly. He's mentioned having a wife at least twice but I don't know what she looks like

I love Ellie Miestel!!!!

YES - Ellie Miestel - THAT's Him. Sorry for the mix-up. No, they don't all look alike to me. I didn't care for him the first few times I saw him. It was his presentation. I couldn't stand to hear his voice. But once I started actually listening to what he was saying... he's just fucking angry. Like I am, and most of us here. So now he's starting to grow on me.

R83 good you clarified. Someone could have thought it was Don King, a prominent DJT pal and supporter.

"No, they don't all look alike to me." :/

White dude here who knows what Cornell West AND Elie Miestal look like.

Though they obviously haven't taken to the street, nightclubs, or public events, Rudy Giuliani has been working with Trump on a "drag look". And Miss Lindz has helped. Rumor has it that Rudy and Donald, as Ruby & Spurrella, plan to do their drag show routines after hours at Mar-a-Lago to entertain very select guests.

^all the Chinese agents will be thrilled with the entertainment.

Here's a real Svetlana shining some light on the Russian Collusion Hoax that the Democrats, the Media and their desperate allies in the Deep State have been foisting on us for two and a half years.

Svetlana?

Ahh, I thought I smelled something rancid.

I honestly don't understand why people are willing to protect Trump at the expense of their own reputations and freedom.

MAGA yamaka

Sheldon make 876 million on the trump tax cut. That's why they stand by the rancid orange in the WH.

R92 smells like flop sweat.

No tax returns and no unredacted Mueller report. the Dems have no power to make anything happen

I think congress will see an unredacted Mueller report. The House holds the purse stings. Nadler can defund the Justice Department if he doesn't get access. If the Justice Department has ruled that Trump can't be indicted because he's a sitting president AND won't provide congress with the unredacted Mueller report then we have a major constitutional crisis. If he can't be indicted, then the only way he can be held accountable for illegal actions is through impeachment. If Barr withhold evidence that Congress needs for impeachment then Barr has set the president up as Above the Law.

....and Barr will be charged with obstruction of justice.

R100 Which is how this very well may play out. Barr is positioned to protect the president at all costs. This type of gamesmanship would get Trump past the 2020 election and would energize his base. If Trump is re-elected, then he pardons Barr. If not, the new president wants to "heal" the country and moves on.

R101

R101 is an “all hope is lost” troll. Check its history.

R103 What the fuck are you talking about? I'm certainly not an "all hope is lost" troll. I think the republicans are going to play some nasty games with the Mueller report and the dems have to be ready to play at their same level. I think Jerry Nadler is doing what he can. I wish he would just go ahead and issue subpoenas because they have already told him they won't cooperate. I also think if Barr may try to classify the report. The republicans don't want either the Mueller report or Trump's taxes to see the light of day and there is a reason. I also think folks from Mueller's team will soon start leaking bits and pieces to show examples of what Barr is hiding and to force his hand. I don't think all hope is lost at all. I'm just saying that the republicans aren't going quietly into the night and we have to be prepared for their methods.

Trump really does look like his mother, now that he's in his 70s.

If the following aren't aren't part of the "Deep State", it would be hard to guess who is:. Mnuchin, Ross, Pence, Barr, McMahon, Coats, Lighthizer, Wilkie, Chao, DeVos, Azar, Wheeler, Acosta, Carson, Shanahann, Zinke, Perry, Pompeo, Bolton, Kushners, Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, numerous appointed judges, and dozens more of Trump appointees.

Adding poisonous snakes, McTurtles, weasels, mosquitos, leeches, fungus, etc., ain't draining any swamp. .

R88 They are. What's your point?

R94 Such a simple statement and so true. This is what I don't get, (at least for this moment). What does Barr get out of it? Why did he come forward over a year ago, seemingly out of the shadows, to write that opinion essay backing the President if he were to be indicted? It's not like someone already had Kompromat on him like we suspect they do on McConnell, Miss Lindsay, and all the other corrupt Rethuglicans. Is he just begging to be corrupted? Who would want that fucking job with that psychopath as your boss?

Seriously, does anyone have info on Barr or at least a credible theory? It just makes no sense to me.

I don't know about Barr particularly but I have no doubt the emails that Russia stole have extremely damaging and probably criminal information on every fucking Republican there is. I suppose it's possible Barr got roped into it since he's connected to them all. Most of those gray-haired old farts probably emailed all sorts of shit they shouldn't have.

R108, good question.

It was clear as can be that Trump would be a nightmare for the new attorney general. Remember when acting Atty Gen Whittaker testified before Congress and was sweating like a pig? I’m sure that was Trump related. It’s not just that he yells irrationally at his cabinet, but the constant changing of his position, undermining his staff and their weeks or even months of work, that would drive me crazy. Plus “overruling his people” and constantly blaming them for his deficiencies.

I had a crappy boss once who pressed too hard, and I quit on the spot. I would expect that from his cabinet, more often. If it has, no doubt Trump would react by firing the person who quit.

Barr is a fixer. He is supposed to fix the situation by making sure the GOP gets off the hook. But for some reason they, the GOP, botch it up and put too much trust in their right wing propaganda machinery.

the latest stunt from despicable Nunes-he's preparing to send 8 criminal referrals to Barr about leaking classified info and conspiracy. The names haven't been released yet but you just know Barr will likely go after these people.

I wonder WHEN someone will fucking go after Nunes himself

Those 8 people can stonewall, ignore, deflect, trash tweet, and brazen it out. Two can play at this game.

Stonewall?

R111, yes Barr is the fixer. Since he was last AG under G.H.W. Bush, he has remained in Republican political circles since. He was solicited by powerful Republican officeholders, major donors, top party operatives, and from leaders of right-wing/conservative organizations/societies to assume the job. His auditioning letter was part of the plan. Much of his legal clients have been from these groups and the corporate/big business sector. I don't believe it is just about protecting Trump personally. A significant chunk of major Republican politicians received foreign-associated oligarch money for their PACs, plus they all received tainted NRA money. Emails were hacked by "Russher", and there's much dirt that hasn't surfaced. To protect Trump, is also protecting a vast network of sordid behaviors they don't want exposed by chain disclosures.

Is there a rule about Congress investigating other Congressmen? Nunes needs to be investigated. He likely would be found to have obstructed some of the investigations into Trump

[quote]Barr is the fixer.

[quote]To protect Trump, is also protecting a vast network of sordid behaviors they don't want exposed by chain disclosures.

Given the depth of the stratagem and what's at stake for the GOP they'd surely stop at nothing. Mueller has to know what he's up against. It must seem overwhelming and dangerous.

But, cometh the hour, cometh the man. Sheer intelligence, will, and a crucial commitment of heroism might yet prevail. History demands.

NBC: Trump's attorney promises fight over Trump's taxes

CBS: Nadler demands "entire" Mueller report "with no redactions whatsoever"

CBS: Giuliani says he's "not worried" about Mueller report....

Asked if the full report might have evidence that Mr. Trump attempted to obstruct justice, Giuliani said he is "confident there'll be no evidence of anything really bad" because there would've already been leaks to the press if Mueller's team had gathered any.

That's a big turnaround from Ghouliani's earlier comment that the report was going to be "horrific".

R118, ahh Jay Suckulow from the American Center for Law & Jesus. When I think of loathsome human/toad hybrids, he's what comes to mind.

If Muller's report exonerates Trump, Fat Nixon should have wanted it released two weeks ago.

Which means, it's damning as fuck.

Okay R115 ... So you think somebody, some Republican operative perhaps, considered Barr and then came up with a way to make Barr interested in going along with whatever plan, and offered him something to his advantage, something he knew Barr would go for. Is that your theory? (or more than a theory)... So it was a plan that was orchestrated by one or more and Barr influenced to join in?

Barr has always been bad. He’s an apologist and facilitator of criminals. No one needed to persuade him to do this, he’s doing what comes naturally to him. That’s true of a lot of Republicans. They’re crooks, and with or without Russian money they would be crooks.

R125, agree 100%.

Drag Mueller and his team in to testify as to the results of the report. This has gotten out of hand the way Barr has been given a month to re doctor the report

I think there is big money involved with Barr. I think someone has given him a Swiss/Saudi bank account. Either that or he was part of the Epstein group. The only other explanation is he is a fame whore worse than Trump - which doesn't seem the case because he is doing most of his communicating with congress via letter. I don't know how anyone with a semblance of decency would take on that role - especially knowing what he was going to have to do. He is going to ruin whatever reputation he has and could face going to jail for obstruction of justice. There has got to be big money involved somewhere.

BREAKING: Kirstjen Nielsen's collapse is complete. Dump just announced her resignation.

[quote]Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen will be leaving her position, and I would like to thank her for her service

[quote]I am pleased to announce that Kevin McAleenan, the current U.S. Customs and Border Protection Commissioner, will become Acting Secretary for @DHSgov. I have confidence that Kevin will do a great job!

Homeland Security Secretary Nielsen just got the ax.

Bye-bye bitch.

I hope this opens her up to any charges that may be leveled against her.

I assume the new guy must even worse, R132, or Trump would not have picked him.

I assume we now going to see another string of people leaving. the more Trump worries the more people lose their jobs because he has to take it out on someone.

Didn't Trump tell staff that Stephen Miller now has complete control of Immigration Policy. That seemed to be the reason that the announced ICE Director was iced. I would imagine that Stephen was no fan for Kristen's - especially after Kelly's departure. And yes, I do think she was banging Kelly.

R133 At least he is a nice white guy. No more browns, blacks or women for Trump in his administration.

Don’t forget about me, R136.

So, will McAleenan do an about-face on his support for aid for the Northern Triangle Countries that Trump put a stop to?

R137, shh, he just thinks she's the White House "massage therapist".

And me damn you!

Who does this cunt Mulvaney think he is, saying that the American people will never see Trump's taxes? Ha! We're done with these criminals, even if we have to storm the WH and drag them out into the street by their ankles. WTF do these people think they are?

NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW.

Kirstjen Nielsen out. So, who's next? (Daily Show has been playing The Celebrity Appresident" pretty much since the administration began.)

Bringing Herman Cain forward to be named to the Federal Reserve Board is Trump's idea of a new minority hiring.

Eric Holder...

"Really? Two questions. What is he hiding? And on exactly what basis is the Trump Administration going to LAWFULLY not disclose the tax returns in response to a legitimate Congressional request? This is a direct affront to the rule of law. Serious."

The law is clear on tax returns. What are Trump's lawyer's going to argue? The legal doctrine of "We don't wanna"?

CNN is suggesting that Stephen Miller is calling all these personnel and policy shots.

By comparison, Miller almost makes his mentor, Steve Bannon, look like a rational liberal. Still, Trump hired him, is Miller's boss, kept him, and acts on his opinions.

Didn't he pour glue on his arms and eat it in grade school as said by a teacher?

He's single. Any DLer want him? M or F or whatever.....

Twitter isn't exactly alight with support for Mulvaney's statement, even from Trump supporters.

Let the WH meltdown begin.

R139 Funny!!! I think Ben Carson has to be next. If Trump is nominating Herman Cain to the Fed, there can only be one black at a time in the administration. I remember shortly after the inauguration, the Trumps fired the White House Butler and another high level servant - both were black and one was a woman and replaced both with white men. I'd like to see what the White House staff (which is non-political) looks like under Trump. I'll bet there has been a major black-out.

Miller, Kushner, Huckabee-Sanders, Mulvaney, and for some reason, Kellyanne Conway, are among the few top survivors of Trump's WH.

Somebody outside the WH is keeping Kellyanne there. She's tight with the Mercers. Her husband George, though, is a prominent Trump critic.

She doesn't need the money and plenty of other Republican candidates for offices would hire her "consulting and polling" services.

Scary that Twitter (and Twitter retweets) are the new measure for popularity and media ratings (have you seen the ratings I got for this?).

R149 I agree. There is an outside force keeping KAC in the White House. No way would Trump keep her around with her husband sprouting off the way he does if there wasn't someone forcing his hand. Remember, he hated Andrew McCabe for his wife's politics as well as DOJ's Bruce Ohr wife Nellie for hers. There were much lower level than KOC who is in the WH daily.

Yikes, my grammar...*They were*

It's a new century, R150, look upon it and despair.

R124 In addition to those points and incentives, Barr has an inflated ego and obviously craves influence and power. He may also had expected, once confirmed, he could control all, protect Trump and cohorts, and face little resistance in doing so. That's where he has miscalculated. He still assumes he can.

The criminal history of Barr is astonishing, going back to the 70s. He's disgusting.

How did he get confirmed. With Joe Manchin?

The old white man's need to be relevant again.

Barr will be 69 next month and is carrying excessive weight. Wonder how he is handling the stress with much more to come?

Maybe with Miss Lindzthangy's help, he'll adapt to having the vapors, using smelling salts, and resting on a fainting couch with his arm over his forehead.

STRESS !?!....This is what he thrives on....its his specialty. Hes extremely corrupt...and surprisingly, everybody knew, but nobody addressed it at his confirmation...instead focusing on his brief to the DOJ...which, with his answers for him to lose confirmation....but like with EVERY SINGLE CABINET MEMBER, JUDGES, ETC....McConnell pushed them through. I know it sounds cliche at this point, but if this were a Democrat as president, it would have been over 18 months ago...if that long.

I think the best thing we can do is have the media put Steve Miler on TV a lot. A LOT. Have him speak on the immigration situation, etc. Start referring to him pubicly as the "shadow president" the man who is really running the WH. If we can give him a lot of attention and publicity, and make sure his public image is the man behind the PResident, etc. he will be gone in a matter of weeks. Trump's ego would not permit him to tolerate Miller being touted as his "brain." One of the reasons Bannon was happy to get out of the WH, is because of all the jealousy and back stabbing. And he would have been fine with it except he was often on the losing side.

Miller is President, it seems.

omfg can we PLEASE get a damaging Trump bombshell this week? Preferably today. Let's have a #MessyMonday we need some details of the Mueller report out. I'm parched for something.

or can SDNY or NY state file charges against someone? GIVE US SOMETHING

yes I know I sound unhinged I want Trump and his minions/family to squirm and cower in fear

What is SDNY waiting for?

[quote] omfg can we PLEASE get a damaging Trump bombshell this week?

You can count on us !

That Barr is such a babe,

This is great!

Patriotic Millionaire’ Eric Schoenberg dumped $50,000 on his head to raise awareness about how much Trump’s tax law benefits the rich — and he’s passing along ‘the challenge’

NY State is also going after his taxes...they will be out one way or another.

Resorting to dangerous pandering before Jewish Republicans in LA? Then, LG was on Fox in overdrive again.

Lindsey thinks we're stupid. A "defense pact" with Israel is permission for Israel to invade Lebanon on some pre invented pretext, so we can march into Iran. This is the Dick Cheney Neo Con template in action. I hope both Trump & Netanyahu end up in prison, and the sooner the better.

Those MAGA kippahs are chilling. How can a Jew justify supporting someone whe has BLATANT far-right wing sympathies? I don't care if his son-in-law is Jewish.. Dump is just using Kushner for his own ends, and he'll throw him under the bus without hesitation, if/when their crimes are exposed. Fat Donnie will feel relieved when he's the only one fucking Ivanka.

What Nunes fuckery is this?

Nunes is a clown. I bet he wants Barr to "go after" Hillary and Jim Comey. LOL!

R170 Why not? Zionism is a right-wing nationalistic ideology based on establishing a "pure" homeland for the Jews with the expulsion/elimination of undesirable races.

They'll be coming for the Jews and the Gays in due time. Poland is now coming for us. The demonization of migrants isn't as effective any more.

R174 The Jews can go to Israel. The Gays have nowhere to go but go back in the closet or underground.

Dunno r175. I have read here on the DL that there is an Equinox gym in Manhattan that seems to be welcoming.

Stephen Miller's high school pic.

He looks high.

r170, I doubt very much that Jared has EVER fucked Ivanka. Their union was arranged by their fathers for business purposes and as a double bearding arrangement for Jared's closetedness and Ivanka's status as her father's longtime concubine.

Trump is the father of his own "grandchildren" with Ivanka. It's a Chinatown situation.

Has anyone else noticed that the only grandchild Trump is ever seen doting over is one of the girls ?

The meth vote.....

An old article right after the '16 Presidential election, notes that in rural areas, meth counties voted for Trump an average 9% greater than elsewhere.

Will this happen again in 2020? Addiction appears even higher now in those areas.

NBC: Trump has for months been urging administration to reinstate child separation policy

I can’t imagine Barr, a loyal Bush employee, actually liking Trump but I can see him doing this shit because 99% of the GOP are Russian assets.

"Mr. President, If everything is on the up-and-up with both your tax returns and the Mueller report, why exactly can't the public see them? We know you're not currently under audit nor would that prevent you from having the returns released. As for the second item, Mueller's investigators created public-ready summaries of all sections of the report that your Attorney General ignored in favor of his own summary which he now says isn't a summary."

Why can't a reporter ask this question as stated above?

R185, Trump has held two or three solo press conferences during his entire Presidency. He either will not answer questions he doesn’t like, or he lies.

Barr will do a delayed, highly redacted report. Mnuchin and company, if behalf of Trump, will refuse to release Trump's tax returns. House committees will subpoena the original Mueller report and tax returns. Barr and Treasury Department resist. Democrats in House file in federal court to secure this material. Trump administration appeals each step all the way to the Supreme Court. This process will take many months, perhaps nearly two years. The public and credible media need to ratchet up the pressure. Mueller and several on his team need to testify before Congress. Barr cannot control these people to sustain a cover-up.

Or resorts to attacking the reporter as a representative of a failing fake news organisation. Which isn't to say that R185's germane questions shouldn't go viral and be repeated ad infinitum.

These questions should be in the air every single time Trump says or does anything - undermining each new attempt at insulting deflection. The world will thus see again and again that he has no plausible answer.

I believe the Surpreme Court can proactively pull a case from a lower court if they consider it time sensitive and important enough.

The Child Separation Policy did as much damage to the Trump Administration as anything else he's done. They had to halt it because there was such an outcry from so many different perspectives. Reinstating it might be the distraction that he thinks he needs right now.

As well as the death knell to this illegitimate presidency, R190.

It's pretty hard to claim you're not a racist when the media is showing you locking lots of brown children in cages and separating them from their mothers.

r192, they aren't brown children, they're CRIMINALS.

Trump criminalized ASYLUM SEEKERS.

Remember whe that blonde cunt went out for Mexican food in D.C. at the height of the child separation protests? The absolute gall of these people.

Conservatives demonize the so called lower class for eons. Entitlement programs. Moochers, skanky women using abortion as birth control method, baby eating Muslims, corrupt unions destroying jobs, ILLEGAL ALIENS, etc.

R194 Miller did the same thing but he reportedly enjoyed the backlash

Yeah, and I'd bet money that beady eyed Nazi slime can't even pay for pussy.

Ain't nobody want him touching them.

Stephen Miller most likely goes the "door unlocked, I'm naked in bed" route on Grindr.

[quote]skanky women using abortion as birth control method

Actually, that's not so bad. Are you with me, guys?!

R197 Ain't no pussy been near Stephen Miller in 33 years 'cept his mama's when he was born.

[quote]Ain't no pussy been near Stephen Miller in 33 years 'cept his mama's when he was born.

First of all, I can't believe he's only 33 years old.

Second of all, your statement is not true.

R201 Throws down white glove in surrender.

R201 If only there were a place on the Internet to be able to look up things like facts...

R203 if only you were smart enough to understand the reply at R201.

I love when people try to be a cunt and fail.

I said to expect more firings from Trump. SS Director..Out

The Secret Service firing is unexpected but well deserved. That Chinese lady got in way too far through his security.

Yeah, I was going to say something similar to R203, but then I realized that it's an idiot and not worth my time.

Apparently it was, R207.

This Secret Service Director firing could have a whole other story behind it. Those guys know everything about Trump. Everything. I wonder if there was someone willing to speak up? Trump tries -usually is successful - to fire people before they can become an issue. The Secret Service have done a good job of protecting and dealing with Trump. No cause for firing other than someone became a threat to dear ol Trump.

This could get very messy behind the scenes.

The Secret Service Director would go to the head of Homeland Security if he needed to report something big about the President. Both fired the same day.

Hon/R208, move on. You got owned.

People should probably read signature lines before calling others idiots.

R203 scared me out of a year's growth with that photo.

I demand recompense!

It's been quiet and now all these firings.

Something massive is going to break this weak.

Exactly.

Or this week.

How about today? Like right now! I have been waiting since thread one for someone to toss this clown out of office.

Release the Craken. And the Mueller report!!

Is it too much to hope Donald's throwing away the protection because he's secretly suicidal?

Probably. You just know they have some far more nefarious plan ahead... that they'll probably screw up as well.

What the hell is going on right now? I'm having a presentiment.

Saw part of the interview with Mulvaney about no one will ever see Trump’s taxes and doesn’t he remind you of the head Natzi in Raiders of the zLost Arc. So fitting

[quote] Something massive is going to break this weak.

this time for sure Bullwinkle

It hasn't been quiet. Now we aren't talking about Mueller's report because of these stupid firings...aka replacing one piece of shit with another. And you've all fallen right in place and exactly as they planned.

No we haven't, R224. The subject of the Mueller Report is still very much being discussed here and elsewhere. We can walk and chew gum at the same time.

You come off as a humorless scold.

R224 is a troll.

Barr can stall the Mueller report for as long as he wants. For all thei so called power the House Democrats haven’t done diddley. We will be well into Trump’s second term still talking about getting an unscrubbed Mueller report and taxes.

Trump insists that the security team at Mara-Lago deal with who is allowed in. Basically, the more the merrier. Keep those dollars rolling in. The Secret Service is/was very upset about that. They surround him when he is there but not the perimeter or scrutiny of guests.

Stop with the troll bullshit. R224 is right to this extent. Trump always throws a "shiny object" out here to distract us and try to change the subject. Does it all te time. Except somethings don't fade away.We still want the unredacted Mueller report. Although Nielsen has been dominating the headlines along with his fucking "wall" and the fireings. So even though it's still in the news, it isn't the main headline right now...

Had no idea it's so easy to get in.....

[quote]Stop with the troll bullshit. [R224]

Yeah, no.

R224 is a troll, whether you like it or not.

Fine. WTF ever.

What’s the bad thing in Trump’s return? We know his base won’t care so what’s he scared about?

THIS is RICH.....Trump does business with the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.....and so does Ivanka....who does he think hes fooling ?

Trump administration cancels deal allowing Major League Baseball to sign Cuban players!

[quote]What’s the bad thing in Trump’s return? We know his base won’t care so what’s he scared about?

He’s scared it’ll be revealed he’s not as rich as he pretends to be. He might not even be liquid. I totally believe it’s the only thing he’s afraid of people learning. And rightly so. His base doesn’t care what he does, but if he isn’t rich then they’re weird transference falls apart.

I'm r224 and you couldn't be more of an idiot to accuse me of being a troll. Hysterical. You don't understand the psychology of what this disgusting administration does. You're part of the problem. I'm sure you're excellent at seeing things on the surface but that's about it. Now continue on aiding in destroying this country.

R237

"They’re" should be "their"

That's the thing. If we learn/confirm he's not actually rich, he goes from being (even slightly) impressive to just a pathetic blowhard.

Remember that interview with Ivanka before the election....she said she was walking down the street with Daddy, and they saw a bum and Trump said the bum was wealthier than him...Ivanka asked what he meant, and he said it was because of his debt.

Something did break. A 9th Circuit Judge ordered that Trump could not return asylum seekers back to Mexico. The order goes into place this Friday. It could explain his recent firings.

His tax returns will officially confirm that he broke and owes money to Putin through several middle men and institutions like Deutsche Bank. Which will be no big deal for the Deplorables, but even they will not be able to call his tax records fake news and part of a witch hunt.

Totally agree R243. That is exactly what I think.

NBC: At the center of Trump's Homeland chaos, Stephen Miller is the lone survivor

They'll double down and continue to call it fake news and a witch hunt at r143. You still don't get it.

OK, what exactly has Trump to do to really piss off someone powerful to get shived? Nobody in power is even in the slightest threatened by this loose cannon? What do they know that we don't?

Because, r125, to a Republican, the rest of the world's population comprises nothing but marks, gulls, and obstacles to Republican wealth.

[quote]Trump insists that the security team at Mara-Lago deal with who is allowed in. Basically, the more the merrier.

Open Maralago border!

Remember....Trump doesnt allow visitor logs at MarALago or the White House.

Only short people should be hired as Secret Service agents.

I still don't know why we think Dotard would have told the truth on his tax returns.... he doesn't tell the truth anywhere else.

It is time to blame the entire GOP, not just Pres Bone Spurs. Murkowski, Collins, Rubio, Sassy-pants, Mittens, ALL are responsible because they keep voting for and letting him get away with it all. One block of 4 Senators saying they will no longer confirm another of his judges would stop this fucking madness in its tracks and would reign in McConnell.

I have been blaming the traitorous GOP for a long time now.

R252, Tax Fraud is yet another crime he can be charged with. I'm okay with that.

There’s more than one way to skin a cat. The New York State Legislature is considering a bill to force release of Trump's state tax returns. The law would allow state officials to see any tax returns, including personal income taxes, corporation taxes and real estate transfer taxes, for any “specific and legitimate legislative purpose.”

Big deal, r255

R257, Manafort ended up with more than four years, but you reminded me of how easy that judge went on him. Manafort should never see the light of day again. Now I'm all sad again.

NYT: Trump Purge Signals Even Fiercer Immigration Agenda

It means that Trump has to distract from his tax disclosure debacle that he is losing.

Trump is broke. He's got nothing. That's why he won't show his taxes. Adam Schiff is the bulldog we need.He is not backing off. Florida is about ready to vote on a horrible bill that would compel people to enforce on their neighbors to ICE.

“compel people to enforce on their neighbors to ICE.”

About two years ago, Miss Lindzee thought she had a compromise deal with Trump on a somewhat comprehensive immigration policy. After Miss Lindzee left the WH meeting, Trump talked with Stephen Miller and he convinced Trump to no longer agree to the proposal and to adapt a harder line. Miss Lindzee was livid and let it be known.

Miss Lindzee and Miller don't like each other.

What I don't understand iscwhy aren't any Dems pointing out how hypocritical all these Republican Billionaires are hiring Illegals to be the backbone of the Food Industry WITHIN the U.S?? I'm talking Tyson Chicken, the Meat Packing Industry, Dairy Farmers, all the Mid-West Produce Farmers? You can build all the Walls you want, but at the end of the day, we still have 11 milliion undocumented workers that these industries can't function without and these tycoons know it.

Full Measure interviewer can't confront Graham on his motives and contradictions?

All his interviews are with soft questions and fawning.

Investigate the investigators are Graham's and Barr's collaborative agenda, along with condemning Democrats for seeking the full Mueller report.

The tax returns will also show evidence of fraud. And remember. Everything is personal with him. He is still pissed off at Nadler for something that happened in NYC years ago. He has business interests or the promise of enrichment from every entity and country he's dealing with, and there is a quid pro quo behind all his decisions. This is the biggest fucking crook in America. He is running this government like a fucking Mobster. Always look for the personal connections. Always. Right now he's scared. Not only is he getting squeezed about his tax returns, he knows that Mueller report will come out. He also knows that even if he appoints 300 more judges it won't matter. Courts a re still ruling against him. He has totally destabilized our government. He has no permanent leadership Acting Defense Secretary, Acting Homeland Security Secretary, Acting Chief of staff, and there are at least two other cabinet level departments without leadership. He never bothered to staff the undersecretaries or Deputies either. He is wild. Taking money from the Defense Department budget to build a wall. I hope that damned lawsuit gets through the damned court.

The story about Trump doing business in Baku with someone who works with the Iranian Revolutionary Guard came out in 2017 and besides Rachel Maddow, no one else in the news seemed to really care. Now that the Trump admin is calling them a terrorist org, I hope this story blows up. Not that it will change anything but I'd like to see how Trump spins his way out of this one

Per r265. To add, Full Measure is the first program produced by the Sinclair Television Group. Obvious Graham would go there.

That Chinese woman who was stopped at Mar A Lago was probably there to deliver that stuff to his people. Wasn't JAred in Florida with him that same weekend? The Secret Service nailed something even bigger than it appears. That's what caused Trump to fire him. Trump would not fire the guy unless the guy did something to hurt Trump.

R267 Trump is just bowing to Netanyahu's "Make Israel Great Again" agenda by demonizing Iran and essentially goading the Middle East into a war. Both of them are mistaking fascism for "greatness", which is especially ironic for the Jews.

Barr will testify tomorrow before Congress. Not sure if it's open or closed hearing. I can't wait for the Democrats to rip into him. See that fat piece of shit squirm

He’s testifying about some budget issues. . Supposedly, there won’t be any good stuff.

R272 CNN just got an excerpt from part of 1 Democrat's question and he's asking about the Mueller report

I thought the New Yorker did a piece last year on that office building/hotel financed by the Republican Guard $$. It’s on a road to nowhere and even the cab drivers had trouble getting the author to the building. Dump is as crooked as a dog’s hind leg.

I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t think Barr will offer comment on the Mueller investigation tomorrow. He’ll use a stock answer to avoid saying anything, and the Republicans will protest the questions.

[quote]Steve Mnuchin can go to jail if he violates the law and intervenes on Trump's taxes: Ex-Treasury Secretary

I’ll bet Stephen Miller posed like this deliberately.

What are they doing over at SDNY?

Sitting around with their thumbs up their asses?

Waiting til Nov. 2024??

To me it's fairly easy to believe in the conspiracy of this all being theatre for the masses when the Democratic Party doesn't go nuclear / confrontational themselves and, say, demand the head / resignation of Nunes. The Republicans use anything for optics they can. They use any issue that can be used as red meat for their followers. The Democratic Party: "Now, now. Let's be civilized and trust that everything will sort itself out while we can keep our dignity intact and just do some head shakes here, a stern letter there, and whispery *pish-posh* here".

Why isn't Pelosi asking the public to raise holy hell that Trump and his associates are still stalling to release his tax returns?

R279, only one of those political parties will still be here in 20 years.

R280 - I certainly wish that would be the case (Dems surviving that is), but the repugnant GOP really seems to be "teflon" (much like Trump himself) and I can't even believe the crooked shit that they have pulled in the last 2 to 3 decades and the long-term consequences that we will all have to eat like crow for ages to come.

My uber driver this am told me he voted as a trump “trier”he really believed trump was going to fix health care and minimize interest in student loans and create lots of jobs and just doesnt understand why he didnt do anything to help the working people vs all these companies getting breaks.

You can be sure i laid it it out for him. I didnt believe it but people like this exist. Hes pay check to paycheck and cant pay for his meds every month. He really thought big papa trump was going to fix everything.

He said he doesnt understand why the gop wants to repeal obamacare when they dont have a plan. “Theyve had so many years to make a plan why havent they”.

I felt hopeful after this conversation that some followers will leave trump.

Wasn't Mnuchin deeply involved in the actions that led to the 2008 financial collapse and profited big-time from it?

@RepAdamSchiff

You seem confused, Mr. Mulvaney.

When the law says the IRS “shall” provide tax returns upon the request of the Chairman of the Ways and Means Committee, it doesn’t mean:

Unless the President fears it,

Tweets about it,

Or his lawyer complains about it.

Shall means shall.

If you can't see how desperate Adan Schiff is, you must be blind.

He is conducting an investigation in search of a crime. He is afraid Trump will reveal his own crimes which are many and various.

What qualifications does Miller have to run immigration policy?

People in such a role need experience in human/social services, immigration law, federal law enforcement, foreign relations, elected office, etc. Even many in the military have experience managing population movements and security.

Miller has no special experience in any of that. He's acting on ideology and his own biases.

[quote]What qualifications does Miller have to run immigration policy?

What qualification do you need when the policy is "throw open the borders, let everyone walk right in, and empty the Treasury giving them free benefits"?

R287, and you think Miller & Trump are going to change that as you portray in a stereotypic way? Their approach and methodologies are generating sympathy and support for undocumented immigrants and illegal border crossings. The child separations were not necessary, are seen as cruel, and is a public relations failure Fix it, but do it in a sensible way. When Trump & Republicans had control of both houses of Congress, they accomplished nothing in generating new immigration policies, and approved nothing to tighten the abuses in the system.

The media hypes a myth. They do it for ratings and money. They create this myth of normalcy. The Republican Party is already dead, and being kept on "life support." The fact is, those who self identify as active Republicans now are either a very tiny minority of people who are upset with the Republicans like Kristol, and a few others, and that is a very narrow, insignificant slice who do not support this iteration of the party, or they are the Neo Nazi racist POS MAGAs.

The main thing to know is that fewer people self identify as Republicans than at any time in the history of American political parties. It has become a fringe Group like the Green Party or WTF ever Jill Stein called herself. And the Media keeps talking about them as if they are still the Republican Party of Reagan. It's like this. let's say hypothetically, the Republican Party used to have 100 members. Now the membership has dwindled to 10 members. Of those 10 members, 9 support Trump. So I guess the Media can say 90% of Republicans support Trump. The base has shrunk. He has done nothing to expand his base and he cannot win...legally...with what he has. In fact, fewer people will support him in 2020, than in 2016.

John Oliver's book portraying Mike Pence's bunny as gay.

R287 when was that ever the policy?

R287 is a troll... clearing their cookies so they can spew more Russian/Republican talking points, aka lies.

The repug party is dead r289? And when the orange one is gone they'll just whither away? I guess we have nothing to worry about then. You actually believe that don't you?

Bizarre.

They're facing a slow decline that will accelerate with time. The GOP based is aging and mostly not being replaced by younger supporters. Once the old guard dies off the Republicans may be in serious danger of withering away. Of course they're going to do a fuckton of damage on their way out. They need to be ousted NOW and then left to decline into obscurity.

Barr wouldn't answer the question of whether or not the White House has seen the Mueller Report. I assume that means they have.

You live in a bubble r294. They've ignited a whole new generation(s) of hate. The country/world is never going back to normal with social media. We can only hope we learn to manipulate the electoral college from now on the way they have.

Reuters: Attorney General Barr promises Mueller report 'within a week'

The word "report" should be in quote too lol

R293, maybe I wasn't clear enough for you. The Republican Party has shrunk. It is a fringe party now. It is not the Republican Party of Reagan, etc. A Fringe party. Not a mainstream political party. But the Media insists on what I call the "myth of normalcy.

I agree that hate groups, and the younger neo nazi shits are active. But again, they are not nearly as well organized as they want us to believe. Just because they are loud, violent and dumb, doesn't mean we need to cower and worry. Fuck the electoral College. More and more states are establishing rules that require electors to reflect the popular vote.

Expect the Barr report at 4:55 Friday afternoon then. Stay tuned!

R299 Numbers don't really matter as much anymore. Especially when you lie and cheat like the repugs. Plus with social media, it just matters how loud you are. Repugs haven't won the popular vote in decades. So they've been 'disappearing' for a long time...yet they never seem to go anywhere and keep gaining power. Look what they've done on 2 years with let's say 40%. And please don't count on latinos, blacks and muslims (and gays) to not turn more red. That's way too naive.

The GOP Senate's refusal to approve or even debate a Voting Rights Protection Act last year, combined with McConnell's statements about making voting day a national holiday, leads me to but one conclusion: they know the fix is in.

My whole point was that the Media is propping them up legitimizing them making them appear to be normal, etc. which gives them the oxygen they require to appear viable. I was hoping we might discuss the way the media is covering the political campaigns. Already. They rarely show empty seats at his rallies. And from reading various books and other accounts I understand that his advance people always find the shabbiest, cheapest venues and make sure they are small enough to look crowded. But even then, sometimes they fail.

[quote] My whole point was that the Media is propping them up legitimizing them making them appear to be normal, etc. which gives them the oxygen they require to appear viable.

I agree with this. But it's working and I don't think the party is dead, and it's the same bull shit reporting that came out when Hillary lost "if only she had remembered middle america" and so on.

Is someone having a bad day today? He interrupted the woman who bellows at the press to have this little meltdown...

[quote]Obama separated the children, by the way. Just so you understand, President. Obama. Separated. The. Children. Those cages that were shown, I think they were very inappropriate. They were built by President Obama's administration....not by TRUMP. [...] I'm the one that [sic] stopped it! [...] President Obama separated children. He had child separation. I'm the one that [sic] changed it! Okay? Thank you very much.

AP: Trump says he's not looking to reinstate family separation policy

So he fired all those people at DHS because he wanted to restart child separation, and now he’s suddenly the hero who stopped it, R305? The absolute insanity of this man.

NYT: Trump Says the U.S. Is ‘Full.’ Much of the Nation Has the Opposite Problem.

That’s exactly what he did with the whole Special Olympics defunding thing. He actually thinks people see him as a savior, swooping in to save programs his own administration was planning to cut.

He is a FAT CUNT.

Stephen Miller: To those here who may have forgotten, as well as those who might not have known, Stephen Miller was born Jewish! Talk about self-loathing.

His mother was a jackal, r310

Dear AG Barr,

We knew you were hired to protect the President and not the American People.

We know you are going to provide a heavily redacted Mueller Report.

We know that you will be telling the Congress exactly what you want to remain hidden from the Congress and the American People.

We know that you will not be AG forever.

We know that you are fucked.

[quote] Obama separated the children

Obama separated children from human traffickers not from their families, you noxious orange twit.

Making Stephen Miller pretty for the camera.

Who cares if Obama separated children AND ate them? He's not the President and Trump is and it is immoral to separate children from their parents and Trump has the power to stop this.

Bob Ross: "Here's an ugly little accident."

No, R316, they're 'happy little trees' squashed by the overwhelming force of ignorance emanating from the scalp of a Dementor.

I still like your version better, but let's get real here, ok?

Pardon the Fox Radio link, but that's where Karen 'Mother' Pence & Charlotte go for commentaries. Asked to respond to Pete Buttigieg's recent remarks, the Pences revert, as always, to their "religious freedom" justification.

Religious freedom, to them, means permission to discriminate and defy civil law selectively.

We all knew what a sick joke this was all going to be when he was elected, but it's just so much worse than I ever imagined it would be. It's like a complete is in control of our country and there's no way out. What's especially sad is how many of my family members have been "turned" by this cult. These were people I thought were decent and kind and just taking a look at their Facebook pages, several of them have turned into rabid, racist assholes that I wouldn't share a cup of coffee with let alone admit that I was related to them.

I feel like I'm stuck in "Hostel: Washington, D.C."

George T. Conway 3d, Kellyanne's husband, is right on the point of Trump's mental health and competency for the job.

Just a reminder that George Conway is a Republican and used to lick Brett Kavanaugh's asshole. It's great that he's coming out against Trump, but he is not any friend of Democrats or even democracy itself.

[quote]and used to lick Brett Kavanaugh's asshole.

Well, only I do that now, literally, and Brett's majestic cavity is off limits to others.

Karen Pence hasn't been fucked in decades.

[quote]Karen Pence hasn't been fucked in decades.

And I will proudly and loudly proclaim this to the world.

[quote] What's especially sad is how many of my family members have been "turned" by this cult. These were people I thought were decent and kind and just taking a look at their Facebook pages, several of them have turned into rabid, racist assholes that I wouldn't share a cup of coffee with let alone admit that I was related to them.

Plainly I am not well-educated on cult programming, but I contend that these family members have been conditioned by some messaging that too few others have escaped. What would happen if those of us with these programmed family members asked them why there are so many Cabinet vacancies, what makes Stephen Miller deserving of his current position, or to compare this current administration to GW Bush's administration? Would they shut up, would they spout some brainwashed, hypnotized response like Frank Sinatra's character in "The Manchurian Candidate"?

Would their friends, families and coworkers recognize by their responses and posts that they've submitted to some mind control?

They are fixated on FOX News who feeds them propaganda and talking points

Nevertheless, they are predisposed to Fox's messaging. They "choose" to watch the channel, by-passing other media outlets. Murdoch's NewsCorp can be faulted for blatant misinformation and biased, one-sided presentations to watchers.

My sister is getting married this summer and has not invited several family members. Like one first cousin but her sister is invited, one uncle but not his wife (because she bashed both of us during the Confederate monument debacle - remember that?), etc. She's full-on segregating her guest list and no Trump bootlickers will be allowed.

I'm still laughing at all the butt-hurt assholes claiming no collusion yet refusing to release the report. No tax cheating yet refusing to release the taxes.

In so many instances over the last few decades, conservatives have chided "what have you got to hide?" when challenges come up against our Bill of Rights.

We all saw the secret meetings with Trump/Putin.

[quote] They are fixated on FOX News who feeds them propaganda and talking points

Tragic. "Only this channel has the real truth." Many of the modern “news” outlets are manufactured to incite fear and anger in their audiences. Since the FCC’s Fairness Doctrine was lifted under Reagan’s presidency, channels like Fox News are not under any requirements to report accurate information or to present balanced, nuanced perspectives. It is easier than ever for media outlets to manipulate viewers with no regard for journalistic integrity.

Which is an easier task, reacclimating FOX News watchers to a complicated and diverse world of opinion and facts, or teaching non-voting citizens that Facebook likes and Twitter retweets and botnets are insufficient replacements for election participation?

I've taken to referring to him as 'your president' during evening newscasts with family members who didn't vote. When they complain, I point to the screen and say 'there's your vote, right there......'

In general conversation I call him the Acting President.

I only refer to him as Dotard.

Exactly right, R289

People look at me weird when I pronounce the * in President* Trump.

Arguing with Trump enthusiasts is wasted energy. They don't want to understand. They have to be out-voted.

They also have to die off in rapid numbers from old age, poor diets, meth and alcohol abuse, gunshot wounds and hunting accidents, Fox News rage-induced stress, and obesity.

[quote] Arguing with Trump enthusiasts is wasted energy. They don't want to understand. They have to be out-voted.

Agreed on points two and three. Arguing with them is wasted energy because one side will have facts and logic, the other will have fear and anger. Deprogramming starts with identifying the fears and their causes, and phrasing "What policies implemented or promises kept have diminished your fears? What agencies or departments should have budget cuts so the President and his family can fly to his Florida estate every weekend?"

R337, I stopped screaming at my brother-in-laws Trump loving relatives because it was just going nowhere and really damaging relationships. They also are all fairly wealthy, white, suburban and not too smart. I do ask questions like:

Do you really think the country is going in a better direction or getting more divisive?

Are you paying less or more in taxes? (They are paying more) Do you feel like that tax money is being used to make roads and people safer?

They know deep down they're wrong, but it's pride.

It's embarrassing frankly.

Chuck Todd is on and is annoying as ever. I just switched to Wolf Blitzer. Oh, joy.

Wolf. Blitzer. Has. Trouble, Talking, And. Breathing. At the, Same. Time.

r338 Those are "yes/no" questions you're asking your family members. Try "stump the chump" open-ended questions that challenge them to find evidence to support their positions. I bet there are sly Democratic Party people who can offer some good questions.

Deplorables are toxic people. I would not recommend wasting any time or energy on them and rather seek satisfaction by supporting the Democratic Party in any way you believe you can.

Does Barr do scrubbing of the Mueller report while having fillet mignon and buttered lobster tails? Does he call it a working dinner?

Barr looked like total shit today. Fat, pale, those skin tags on his face pulsating on their own. I’m sure he’s been stress eating since the hearing ended.

I've read multiple accounts from people who discover that someone they thought was normal, good, "all there," voted for Trump. Now they could have been momentarily hornswoggled, or they may've had a massive brain fart. Not all of them came out of the womb with a predisposition to be a MAGA stereotype. If nobody explores their so-called reasoning, or the factors that led them to "set a spell in Deploravillee," especially in front of an audience, there is no hope of converting.

There are ex-ISIS members, ex-Muslims, ex-Catholics, ex-Zionists, ex-Separatists (Quebec), why can't there be ex-Deplorables?

r344, like Kelpien Threat Ganglia...

I can relate to being surrounded by people I wouldn't have expected to be deplorables. Way too many of my aunts, uncles & cousins are. Then it gets worse with their spouses and family, etc. And I'm in a blue state. I avoid talking about it like a plague. I've also pulled away from all them and will greet them at family gatherings but leave it at that. I'd honestly rather hide in the corner and look on my phone. I hate them but don't want to cause pointless problems, mostly for my not-deplorable parents. Some of them I knew were republican but at first I assumed they wouldn't vote for him...they couldn't possibly be THAT bad. Nope. They did and I can see they've changed. Same situation with some gay people I know. One a lesbian and another an older male couple (who recently got married!). Same thing, I've pulled away from them. Also, I had a boss that always played the "I don't like any politician" card (we know what that is code for). Mind you, he's an immigrant himself and almost all of his workers are undocumented. He's pretty active on Facebook and finally the other day it happened. He shared some stupid pro trump post that had his face in the middle with Obama, Hillary, etc on the sides. Didn't even read it, he just got hidden. So, from my experience, these people just keep coming out of the woodwork. None of them have had a change of heart. It drives me crazy and I'm so relieved my parents and immediate family vote blue.

R345 Maybe you can convert the independent voters who got conned, but you can forget about converting hardcore deplorables. Being deplorable is not about politics or even reality... it's all based on prejudice, ignorance and callousness. And most of all, they are just plain irrational. If you have spent any time with irrational people, you wouldn't bother "converting" them... You can't reason with them! They need to suffer some crisis of conscience to change their mental trajectory, and many never do.

I know a man who is 65, who has been a friend of my family long before I was born. He was always very Liberal and progressive.

Over the past few years he's started saying things like, "The thing about Dotard is that the things he's doing aren't wrong... it's his delivery."

He retired a few years ago and now sits at home watching Fox news.

I can't understand it.

It's called senility, R349. Fox news counts on it; which is why they are so animated, loud, and constantly repeating themselves.

I know this will be news to DL, R349, but people sometimes get vindictive and bitter as they get older.

Mnuchin just told Maxine Waters to take her "gravel" and bang it.

R352 On his head, preferably.

Oh dear, Mnuchin is showing the strain. Will he be next? Hold him in contempt, Mother Maxine. Hold them all in contempt, permanently.

[quote] Try "stump the chump" open-ended questions that challenge them to find evidence to support their positions. I bet there are sly Democratic Party people who can offer some good questions.

Are any Democratic representatives playing "stump the chumps" at broadcast hearings today? Are they making the Trump apologists look bad, or are they reinforcing your opinion that Trump apologists look bad? Are they quoting or replaying media recordings of Trump apologists being nonsensical and insane?

Mnuchin had his hands deep in creating the economic mess that emerged in 2008. He got way more wealthy, and his reckless activities helped himself, but were a big contributor to many others losing their savings. To put this guy in office to run the Treasury Department was absurd. But McTurtle's Senate confirmed him. He and his supposedly "trophy" wife are arrogant and condescending toward anyone that don't have their financial status.

No, I know, R350. I can't understand why he started watching Fox news to begin with, is what I'm saying.

Apparently he started watching to see what kind of shit they were saying and then slowly started to get sucked into it.

It's fucking sad.

Drop what you're going and go straight to 3:05:00. It's so, so, so good.

For some people, as they age their world shrinks. It gets smaller and they become fearful and anxious. Fox feeds anxieties and fears. They are built to appeal to grievance voters. Anyone who isolates themselves with only Fox and Rush Limbaugh to rely on, is going to go nuts faster.

He is incredibly disrespectful. Appears to be his objective from the start and he finally lost it. Wanker.

One word, r358: YOWZA!!!

R359, Yes, and ultimately they fear death's approach. I've seen two types of older people: those who shrink into themselves and collapse under the weight of their fears and anxieties and those who embrace the whole process of life fully and continue to expand and grow until the very end.

I apologize for being snide around senility. Fear and anxiety are certainly fertile fields for development.

R358 Can't wait to see him in front of congress when he refuses to provide Trump's tax return. I so wanted someone to ask if how pressing the national security issues with Bahrain were. He's the Treasury Secretary not head of Homeland Security. Maybe he is going to take on that responsibility as well since they fired Nielsen.

R368

R363 this is not meant to be snarky, but what can they do if he refuses? Can they arrest him? Hold him in contempt?

R358 that was spectacular - make that motherfucker squirm!

What, dumbass? She said you could go whenever you wanted and then you gave her an offer and then lied about it.

Make em' dance, Mother Maxine!

R365 I think it will end up in court. What worries me is that Trump thinks he is above the law. When Nixon was ordered to turn over the tapes he knew he had to or would face impeachment. The courts won't be ruling against Trump - he is purposefully taken out of this scenario. They will rule against the IRS Director and Mnuchin. Whether they will risk jail by not complying is another story.

Maxine was masterful. My how the GOPers lie boldface seconds after saying something that is on camera.

Makes you wonder if they even know they're lying.

What an embarrassing display for an adult. It was even embarrassing when I did it as a 12-year-old.

Me: Fine! I’ll finish cleaning my room! But remember, I told my friends I’d meet them at 5 and if I’m late they’re going to shun me. Then they’ll start beating me up every day and I’ll have to drop out of school. I’ll never go to college. I’ll never even get a GED. Eventually, when I’m homeless, I’ll turn to heroin to numb my pain. Then I’ll OD And die. So, fine! If you really want me to die, I’ll finish cleaning my room! FINE!

Mom: Good. Now go finish cleaning your room.

Maxine is chairwoman of the Finance Committee. I don't think Steve can refuse to testify before her committee. They have oversight. Can you imagine if Hillary had complained that she had to leave her eleven hour meeting to go meet with some folks from Bahrain?

Poor Mnuchin whining about how the last chairman treated him so nicely and Mother Maxine was keeping him a long long time and so much longer than the nice Republican of last year.

New day, motherfuckers!

If he wanted more respectful treatment, maybe he shouldn’t have produced Batman Vs. Superman.

R372 Mnuchin (what an ugly spelled name) came off like an entitled little cunt in that video. And how does selling a business to your wife represent any sort of divestment? Of course the “Ethics Department” approved it. All these places are overrun with Trump cultists who would approve ordering Zyklon B for the new MAGA camps.

And he really did lie about something he had said fifteen seconds beforehand. He, and his blonde cunt wife, are evil, evil people.

[quote] NYT: Trump Says the U.S. Is ‘Full.’

Bernie agrees. “Oh my god, there’s a lot of poverty in this world, and you’re going to have people from all over the world. And I don’t think that’s something that we can do at this point. Can’t do it,” the senator added.

Sanders, however, has long criticized open borders. In 2015, he referred to them as a “right wing proposal” pushed forward by the wealthy Koch brothers. “You're doing away with the concept of a nation state, and I don't think there's any country in the world which believes in that,” he said in an interview with Ezra Klein of Vox.

The senator is correct in saying that brothers Charles and David Koch, longtime Republican donors, have supported open borders. As recently as last week, Charles Koch spoke in California promoting the idea.

“I would let everybody in who comes here to contribute, and no one who wants to come here to do harm, and see how easy this is,” the billionaire industrialist said last Monday, according to The Post. “This goes to our whole philosophy of openness... We have to have an open society—open to ideas, people, goods and services—to learn from each other and have us all benefit.”

A friend of mine had a conversation with a moderate-ish GOP voter who occasionally votes for Dems. He voted for a lot of Dems in the mid-terms. He voted for Pres Bone Spurs. He was bringing up Socialism and how all the Dems seemed to embrace it. My friend said he was bracing for the usual talking points but the guy said something surprising. He said he keeps reading about scam after scam in the private sector, rising drug prices for no reason, heartless job cutting when CEO's are getting huge golden parachutes. He then said he was beginning to see the point of having more socialism if the private sector was going to continue to act in the manner they are with little to no regulations reigning them in. He said the private sector was effectively destroying capitalism by their behavior. He pointed out he voted for more Dems this past year than he has ever in one election. He said the most he ever did prior was 50/50 split in 2008. My friend asked if he would vote for Pres Bone Spurs in 2020. He said flat out he would not no matter what. He said even if they nominated AOC he would vote for her because maybe the private sector would get their shit together.

R377 I wish I could have faith in people who say such things. However, in my own experience, I heard people Im familiar with talk about how disgusted they were with Dotard and how they hated Hillary, but would have to vote for her over him....

And it turns out when push came to shove, they voted for him anyway.

The label of Socialism doesn't have to power it used to have. YOunger people are well traveled. And with the internet you can find out what's going on all over the world. So when you see free healthcare in most of Europe etc. and 6 weeks of vacation, and all the other things that make life graceful and less stressed, good schools and subsidies for the arts? Hey I'll take some of that. I went to grad school with a lovely lady and she and her husband moved to London, and then to Portugal. They said they will never come back here. They have two little kids now and they love the healthcare and the benefits. African American couple.

Is mnuchin closeted?

Also, the socialism thing doesn't have the same stigma because the private sector is fucking so much up. There is far too much greed and it can't be hidden or explained away. The private sector will be the end of capitalism if they don't get their shit together. Every day there is multiple stories about how they fuck up numerous things, their greed, their uncaring, how they sell us out. Aside from citizens turning on them, they will actually destroy the economy and our way of living due to all what was described above. Start counting the stories you read daily of the scandals, fuck ups, greed they commit. I don't understand how they believe this is sustainable.

There is no such thing as a pure socialist or a pure capitalist economy. All economies are mixed economies. The fact is our government subsidizes Boeing and a lot of other industries is a form of socialism. The corporations bitch about being regulated when it restricts them or restrains them. But they love it when it facilitates their agenda. We need balance, and we need an activist government to bring stability to our financial services industry, and to deal with the environmental issues we are facing. So we need to start pointing out to people what all this really means. I usually start out asking them what they mean when they talk about Socialism? 90% of the time they have no idea.

R382, right they just point to Venezuela or whatever conservative talking point is saying. You need a hefty dose of socialism to make capitalism work.

R377, r379 and r380 are absolutely right. And I think some corporations are getting it—but only a few. This is why I’ve noticed companies announcing they’re raising their minimum wages. I believe Target has, as well as Bank of America.

But most companies are run by greedy stupid mf’ers, so I don’t expect this to become a trend. If they were smart, they’d do it.

^ hah I meant r381, but r380 works, too!

I love Maxine Waters.

So Pres Bone Spurs says Obama separated children and he stopped it then went on to say that is why things have gotten worse. So, the idiot just said HE made this mess?????

Bwhwaahahhahahahahaha he is such a fucking idiot it is unreal.

R375 "Mnuchin (what an ugly spelled name)"

You just think the name spelling is ugly? Bill Maher could win a beauty contest standing next to Mnuchin! (I love Bill Maher, but I do think he's ugly).

R380 If Mnuchin tried to come out, the gays would force him back in !

AG William Barr Reveals Four Areas of Redaction in Mueller Report

“First is grand jury information…

The second is information that the the intelligence community believes would reveal intelligence sources and methods.

The third are information in the report that could interfere with ongoing prosecutions. You’ll recall that the special counsel did spin off a number of cases that are still being pursued. And we want to make sure that none of the information in the report would impinge upon either the ability of the prosecutors to prosecute the cases, or the fairness to the defendants.

And finally, we intend to redact information that implicated the privacy or reputational interest of peripheral players where there is a decision not to charge them.

What a snotty little shit that Mnuchin is. That smackdown by Auntie Maxine was EPIC and for the ages. Like a grandmother spanking the spoiled brat in public for mouthing back at her, and looking cool and in control while she does it.

R380/389 I was wondering the same thing. He was surround by cute blond boy advisors. And that note last week about his departing assistant seemed a bit OTT.

[quote]He was surround by cute blond boy advisors.

Hitler Youth

Fat Donnie is, was, and always has been, wholly unfit for the office of POTUS. Like Vinnie-the-chin Gigante, Donnie -two-scoops might avoid prosecution (at least for awhile) if he consciously embraced his mental illness(es).

Loved when Maxine told Mnuchin he was free to go. Having said he had that very important meeting, he suddenly hated being briskly dismissed.

He'd have had to slink away having stunk up the room - so tried to regain some assumed superiority. But only dug himself in deeper.

Game set and match, Maxine. And it's on tape for the rest of Mnuchin's life.

R376. Of course the Koch Bros want open borders. As industrialists, they have profited immensely from cheap labor, avoided paying health benefits to many workers, and see rapid population growth as new consumers for their businesses.

Doubtful the Koch Bros care about the impact costs of undocumented migration as it relates to education, social services, the judicial system, health care, the environment, etc. The Koch Bros enjoy their tax cuts and deregulations; they ain't interested in helping pay the governmental costs as it pertains to human services.

[quote]Is mnuchin closeted?

Why? You want him?

Maxine is not so low IQ after all, Donald. She allowed your big money guy make a fool of himself.

^to make

Heeee heeeee, Adam Schiff just referred to Barr as Trump’s current Roy Cohn. His only function is protect the President. Not a flattering comparison indeed.

Barr is an arrogant fuck. He thinks he is the only one who "knows" the Law and he likes to play semantic games parsing words and assuming he is baffling people with his superior skills. He'd be wrong. Anyone who challenges him he will act dismissive and hide behind his so called skills, but it is a defense mechanism designed to trhow his opponent off balance and try to psyche them out and make them feel insecure. I bet he was a horrible manipulative father. Someone who is unimpressed with his position and his so called legal expertise needs to confront him on TV and lacerate his ass. I'd love to see him try to take Eric Holder on. The thing is, 99% of Republicans, especially Trump's people are limited and handicapped by ideology. It blinds them and makes them more stupid than they already are.

Now Barr wants to know how the Russia probe started. This guy is more evil than I ever imagined.

Yes r402, he seems more interested in scandalizing the genesis of the investigation over the actual criminality and wrongdoings of Rethugs and Trump. So dishonest. How can someone live with themselves being so evil.

You watch. Barr is going to use this investigation of the investigation to purge the FBI even more. That's what's going on across every LAw enforcement type agency in government, Homeland Security, DoJ, and other Intel gathering operations. All of them have dirt on Trump, and all of them are getting scrubbed. As Deep Throat famously said, "Look at the bigger picture. You're missing the over all. .." This is a widespread intelligence/investigative purge.

I have to say that this overall consolidation of power and complete hollowing out of the administrative state (Rachel went over the vast amount of vacancies on her Monday show) is starting to freak me out a little. Trump and his cabal are creating this fiefdom of supplicants who will do anything for the dear leader.

How quickly can these immigrant camps be changed into death camps? They're not letting anyone from Congress see inside of them so who's to say they're not already doing it? The vulgarity and sheer depravity of this administration and the gaseous bag of orange offal that sits at its top, will be a dark mark on the history of our nation for decades to come. And anyone associated with this shit should be shunned Game of Thrones-SHAME! style for the rest of their time on this Earth.

If we survive it, R405.

I've said all along, don't keep your eye on the ball but on the court.

I really don't think Trump is going to last much longer but there won't be any dancing in the streets when we see all the actual damage he has really done.

If the dems don’t act ASAP and get passed the diversions TRUMP will be elected again...

Mnuchin DARES to tell Mother Maxine what to do with her "gravel."

She wholly impressed me in that interaction. Mnuchin is a douche.

Mnuchin got so flustered during that exchange. It was pure gold (and has since gone viral).

I love Maxine Waters.

I swear Trump is one of the stupidest people...........................Trump on George Washington, during a visit to Mount Vernon: “If he was smart, he would’ve put his name on it...You’ve got to put your name on stuff or no one remembers you

some of the responses:

"There is a 99.99% chance he did not know Washington D.C. was named after George Washington"

"Truly, there are not enough things named after George Washington in the city of Washington, home to George Washington university and Georgetown. How will we remember the name?"

"Because nobody remembers George Washington."

"There are plenty of places named after George Washington. I guarantee you my state will never be named Trump."

What that video revealed is the Mnuchin doesn’t have fucking clue what anyone else was talking about. He’s using his position to make “deals” and only that. When Mrs. Beatty (love her) was taking about minorities businesses and their reps you can tell he’s lost.

Lindsey Graham has been pushing the "investigate the investigators" and "blame it all on Hillary" narratives for many months. He's using his role as Senate Judiciary Committee to do so. Graham is on various Fox News shows almost daily, and other right-wing media outlets, pushing his messaging.

Both Graham and Barr have acknowledged their collaboration on pursing the investigators and Hillary Clinton and her campaign.

This is about protecting Trump and his cohorts, take any focus off Russia's involvement, diversion, and political posturing

The truth is Graham is not clean in this mess, and his motives and behaviors need seriously scrutinized.

Wha...?!? The FBI was looking into the Trump campaign?! Why? Because they were all talking to Russian operatives and lying about it? Why would that raise suspicions?

If Barr thinks that argument is going to work, he’s not just ammoral, he’s an idiot.

[quote]And finally, we intend to redact information that implicated the privacy or reputational interest of peripheral players where there is a decision not to charge them.

Mr. Barr, have you classified President Trump as a peripheral player?

Ugh! This bullshit is just dragging on long past its expiration date. I've turned off the news until something major happens.

R416 Barr says he will not redact information that would be embarrassing to Trump. He said third parties were non-public figures.

Barr acts like he's simply above being questioned by anyone.

So there is a confirmation on this factoid.

[quote]Sen. Chris Van Hollen: "Did Bob Mueller support your conclusion?"

[quote]Attorney General William Barr: "I don't know whether Bob Mueller supported my conclusion"

Barr says "I think spying did occur" on the Trump campaign. Right-wing media is orgasming over it -- conveniently omitting his followup sentence: "The question is whether it was adequately predicated."

Barr is looking for any excuse to discredit the entire investigation, which will nullify the Mueller Report when it finally reaches the public. Barr knows that his obstruction isnt working, so he needs to implode the entire thing. Helen Keller can see whats going on.

I have lost hope. I know this is what the Deplorables want, but we have a completely dishonest President, cabinet, Attorney General, Republican Senate and Trump appointed Supreme Court Justices. He fires anyone who disagrees with him. How will we fix this - other than vote out the idiots?

There’s the answer. Vote out the idiots. Can you imagine that huge shit-stained swamp being drained all in one Election Day? Rejoicing will ensue.

If the House initiates impeachment against this president, they will be able to obtain the full, unredacted report. Is this being considered at all? He's already done enough out in the open to warrant impeachment. Once the full report gets leaked out to the public, the full horrors of

It's a big move, but I think we're moving closer and closer to it being a "nuclear option" worth considering.

You know, I am getting very, very anxious about all this stuff. It seems as if, day after day, night after night, we watch shit happening. Pundits and politicians sit around on TV and opine about it. They observe Barr on TV, or Mnuchin, or Trump, etc. and "He did this, he did that, it means this, it means that..." and nothing happens. It's like we're watching a Coup with commentary. Nothing happens. We temporize: " Just wait until..." But there is nothing going on. I want to see Federal Marshals walk into the White House, ut the cuffs on Trump, Miller, Jared, Ivanka, adn run their asses into the wagon for the ride to jail. No bail. Confiscate all passports. At the same time, arrest Parscales, Prince and Bannon. ROund their asses up. I'm also getting increasingly suspicious of the corporate media. We have seen repeatedly, how the NYT can fuck us. With the exception of a few reporters and analysts I still trust, I'm very uneasy.

We can’t vote these people out if Russia hacks the votes again.

Sarah Kendzior - "I've located the Mueller Report"

So if Barr has an ongoing investigation into the origins of the Russia probe and the Mueller report, that basically means that he can redact the entire thing under the guidelines of on-going investigation. I've said from the beginnings that he will end up classifying the report at Top Secret - Password.

Jim Sciutto: AG Barr says he will deliver different reports to Congress and the public with, it seems, different level of redactions.

Thanks R430. That arrogant fuck! What part of "unredacted" does he not understand? He is ignoring a directive given to him by Congress with their full authority, and he is telling them, in effect, no, this is what I'll give you and oh, we'll give you more than the public.... Subpoena that fucking report and take his ass to court.

that fucking fat piece of shit Barr is doing exactly what the nutjob right wingers on Fox want. Now Hannity can keep spinning the false narrative that Trump campaign was unfairly and illegally targeted by "the deep state"

In court, I would think you could make a pretty strong argument that the people paid for this report with taxpayer money and as direct representative of the people, the house Intelligence Committee (who have been given clearances to see our nation's most sensitive material) have the right to see the full report. It is in fact their duty to review the report and exactly why they have security clearances.

What’s the point of 2 versions? The one he gives Congress will become public in about 10 minutes anyway.

R433

I just heard a woman on TV talking about getting half the tax refund she was used to. When she learned that fewer taxes were taken from her pay check then paid for with a smaller refund, meaning she got no tax break at all (while corporations and the rich got millions) she said, "I'm sure Trump didn't realize that would happen, I still support him" I wanted to scream.

So, lady, you're fine with a stupid greedy president who doesn't understand what he's doing? He knows exactly what he's doing by destroying our democracy and handing our country's bounty to the rich on a golden platter.

I am distraught that this is happening before our eyes. I've marched, I've written letters, I send money every month to Democratic election campaigns and then sit and watch arrogant, greedy, lying criminals destroy our government, cage babies, insult our allies, and coddle dictators and on and on.

Were in a sorry place, not sure if it can be turned around. Job one is to get these creeps out of office, job 2 is the rest of the Democratic agenda. No more pussy footing around, Dem candidates and the media, you've got to come out strong against conman trump and his arrogant allies.

Is there some reason that Barr is acting like he is simply above the law?

Can’t The Washington Post it something do an exposé on who his son-in-law is and what exactly his role in the White House and whether or not there is a conflict of interest there?

The House needs to just initiate impeachment proceedings and get ahold of the full, unredacted report that way. I’m getting really sick of this bullshit.

[quote] I've marched, I've written letters, I send money every month to Democratic election campaigns and then sit and watch arrogant, greedy, lying criminals destroy our government, cage babies, insult our allies, and coddle dictators and on and on.

I hate to write this, but maybe influencing the low-information voters through personal communication might work. I tend to think Trump supporters know everything I do, therefore they are evil, awful, myopic and masochistic, but there's lots to suggest they might be reality-deficient.

R437, Barr, according to people who have observed him for a long time, has always been like this. “The law” for him is just an excuse to get away with doing bad things.

I'm loving some of the MSNBC legal analysts who were former DOJ officials eating crow now that Barr is doing the president's bidding. During his confirmation hearings they were saying that he's an institutionalist and when he walks in the door and down the halls he will feel the weight of his responsibilities. Bullshit. He's nothing of the sort. He walked down the halls and told his assistant to order multi-colored markers. He couldn't wait to start protecting Trump. I've said it before. I think there is a huge off-shore account with his name on it. Jesus, what if the FBI thinks he's compromised. He has an investigation on them and they may have one on him.

Again, what is SDNY doing?

Ordering take out?

Jerking off??

So much for that rough and tough new state AG they voted in over there.

Little has been done to counter Russian intrusion in the U.S. election processes. They are doing it again for the upcoming 2020 election. They are already doing stuff on social media per the Democratic candidates. DL doesn't appear to be immune to such. They are trolling by any means accessible to all kinds of sites. Expecting Facebook to be aggressive in preventing this kind of stuff will fall well short in serious effort. I imagine many Republican politicians are silently welcoming it as long as they are not personal targets. As to meddling with voting and counting, I would not discount new attempts in targeted states and precincts.

R443....If you recall, Trump dismantled all the departments within IC that protected us regarding election interference.

^^^and he wants to start a joint US/Russia agency to prevent election meddling.....the irony.^^^

WHEN WILL PEOPLE LEARN....TRUMP LIES. ABOUT EVERYTHING.

They are definitely hoping that Russia “meddles” again (such a demure term for what actually happened). They’ve done nothing to secure our elections. “Russher, if you’re listening...”

I wish someone would cut off Putin’s cock and stuff it down his throat and then duct-tape his mouth shut.

It is called sabotage and espionage.

that fat fucking piece of shit pig Barr is a fucking partisan hack. I don't understand why anyone gave him the benefit of the doubt following his behavior during the Bush I years. Of course it's worse now.

His arrogance is fucking infuriating. I just want to punch him.

It seems so many of the repubs in this administration are absolutely drunk on having power. It like sexually arouses them to behave like animals

It's going to get even worse before it get's better. Because the Base that voted him into office has to suffer the consequences of those actions, and we're not there yet. Unfortunately, that means the rest of us have to suffer right along with them. Hang tough, and take cover.

My uncle died. He was a smoker. For years. Ever since he turned 14. He was 58 when he died. For years he heard that smoking causes cancer and other lung related diseases and that it would kill you. But he said his favorite moment was lighting that cigarette, inhaling, and then blowing the smoke out. He knew in theory, it was bad for him. He knew it might cause terminal cancer. But there was another part of him that refused to correlate the lighting up, inhaling and blowing smoke, with Cancer.

What's my point? The Trump supporters. They refuse to correlate their troubles with Trump. They "like" Trump. They feel at some point he'll "fix things. It'll be OK." But the chaos he is inflicting, the higher taxes, economic insecurity, higher prescription drug costs, the toxic environmental policies etc. they refuse to see these as a result of what Trump has done, or the Republican policies.

In fact, they separate Trump from the other Republicans. They feel like he needs protecting. I'm serious. If something bad happened it's because someone else let him down. He is never responsible. So no, I'm not going to waste anymore time giving these people benefit of the doubt. IF they have a change of heart and come to their senses, fine, but absent them having an epiphany, there is absolutely nothing I can do for them. They have the cancer and it's going to kill them. I just hope it doesn't take us along with them.

IF (and that's a big IF) Trump does get reelected will the public declare defeat and let the Democratic Party do damage control for four more years, or will that finally make some people revolt?

The way Barr acts, and clearly does everything he can to cover for Trump and the GOP, is too infuriating for words for me.

Has anyone else been getting bombarded with friend requests lately? I have but luckily I keep my FB page private and with very few people invited.

[quote]spying did occur

It's called an FBI counterintelligence investigation. And it's hardly news that it occurred - as it fucking should have.

Is Miss Lindz going to be investigated now for advising McCain to give the dossier to the FBI?

Why doesn't the FBI or CIA retaliate? Do they just roll over and let Trump and his minions destroy them? Are they all blindly loyal to Trump and the GOP? If yes, why bother to destroy them in the first place if they will not turn on Trump and reveal him being a Putin asset and the GOP being in on it?

So what is Barr getting out of doing trumps bidding? Money? Glory? Is he hoping to get on the supreme court?

I don't understand why Barr wants to get this taint on him. Not that he had a clean rep becore but his misdeeds didnt color his current existence..

I'm getting whiffs of Cheney whenever I look at and listen to Barr. His smugness and "I know you know what I'm doing and I don't give a fuck" aura just reeks out of him. This man needs to be taken down and fast.

Again, why is no one in the media putting a spotlight on Barr’s son-in-law who works IN THE WHITE HOUSE?

The media isn't interested in investigative journalism. That's thankless work nowadays. They prefer dissecting Trump tweets, sensational stories, and touchy-feely accusations.

Barr has two relatives in the administration. Nepotism is condoned and practiced with Trump, i.e. Ivanka and Jared.

It's the kind of stuff Kim Davis did in her former county job.

I think that most Republicans don't care about the "taint" because they see it has no effect on the Orange one and they know they could never win a national election fairly. It will get even more difficult as their constituency ages and dies off. So "the law and ethics be damned, at least we are getting our policies rammed through" seems to be the attitude of most of them. .

Or perhaps mother Russia has Kompromat on Barr, too. I can definitely see that - this is the game they are playing.

DLers, spam this over the internet:

A counterintelligence investigation is NOT SPYING!

By the time the deplorables figure out these policies do not in any way, shape or form benefit them, Trump has to be hoping his dictatorship is in full swing because nobody was brave enough to stop him.

[quote]I think that most Republicans don't care about the "taint"

Such ungiving lovers those Republican'ts.

Former FBI Special Agent Asha Rangappa:

To recap: Barr is opening an investigation into whether the FBI opened an investigation with no evidence based on no evidence that the FBI actually did anything wrong. Is...is that right?

Here's my thought. The FBI isn't going to let Barr smear them nor is Mueller's team. BUT they're not going to do anything until Barr releases his redacted version. They are going to give him enough rope to hang himself. If they leak the report now, then Barr won't release his redacted version. They want to see just how badly Barr redacts the report and then they will leak parts that show just how much Barr has tried to obstruct the real truth from coming out.

Mueller is working with Barr on the redactions

R466: Hmmm...I don't have faith in Mueller anymore/either

I have r466 blocked, so make what you will of that. I only block Trumpsters and trolls.

Barr was asked specifically about Mueller's participation either in the three page opinion Barr wrote, a and the redactions and he got very pouty and said, "It is not necessary for Mueller to participate." I had R466 blocked too. Hmmmm.

I have r466 blocked too, and I block pretty rarely -- clearly a nutter

Also have R466 blocked.

R466 won’t be getting any vodka tonight. I also him/her/it blocked.

r466 posted as an obvious troll in too many threads, at least six of us blocked it.

Why do people block and then freak out when they are missing replies? I just scroll.

Yes, I don't get it, R474. Group blocking is a thing, apparently. I still see R466 and who cares. I see a million idiots every day just looking out the window.

Barr is working with Trump's attorneys and Miss Lindzay on redactions. That's been stated or very much implied. As to Barr working on the redactions, Mueller and his team had already prepared redacted summaries, and Barr refused to show them with his letter.

Don't put faith in anything Barr does. He's the "fixer" for Trump and cohorts.

isn't what they're doing illegal? It ought to be. I would re write the Special Counsel Law to make it illegal to alter his report in any way. And I would require it be sent to the appropriate committees of Congress, submitted at the same time the AG gets it. Barr, Trump,Graham and Trump's attorneys all know this report will provide the legitimate basis to start drafting articles of impeachment.

R475

Congress has a job to do. By not allowing Congress access to the report, Barr is obstructing Congress from doing their job. At the very least he ought to be cited for contempt of Congress. There is a penalty for what he is attempting.

Dana Bash, CNN, is doing spin in behalf of Barr. Being Trumpian-like appears to be a pattern for her.

FYI Contempt of Congress is a federal misdemeanor. It carries a fine of up to $100,000 and one year in Federal prison.

I'm not into group blocking. I don't do it. I actually resent it when someone accuses someone else of being a troll and urging us to block. I'm an intelligent person and I will decide who I believe is a troll and who I decide to block. I say all of that to say I blocked R466 for a reason. A good reason. I don't block promiscuously.

R474

Why haven't the House Judiciary and Intelligence Committees yet subpoenaed Robert S. Mueller III to testify, and haven't given a deadline to Barr to submit unredacted copies of the reports to them?

Two weeks ago I asked the office of a Representative on the House Judiciary Committee when the Committee would receive the report, and if it was legally required to submit to the Judiciary Committee a copy of the report that taxpayers paid for upon the Committee's request. I have not yet heard back.

When Barr said he thought there was "spying" on the Trump campaign, is he talking about investigations that were started using the FISA warrant?

Because if that's the case, why couldn't the Democrats flat out ask him, "Oh, so you think the judge that issued the FISA warrant is...corrupt...or acted illegally...?" Because I'm sure a sitting judge would love to respond to that.

The dems need to start hammering the fact that they represent the people and have security clearance so they can see classified material to protect the best interests of the people. The House of Representatives is representing the people. Government is for and by the PEOPLE. They all work for the people and Barr is the people's Attorney General. If he understands differently, he should let them know.

I just hold on to the hope that the good guys are in control of the situation, playing 12 dimensional chess and getting ready to come for the king.

You know, the Dems have these hearings and they get off some great questions and they do anger well, but some how this all seems like watching a play. They seem sort of sluggish. Not aggressive enough, not intimidating or menacing. I want them to go for the jugular and ask the obvious questions we ask right here and I rarely see it. Nothing happens. It's like they're fighting with one hand tied behind their backs. Or as an old boxer used to say, going through the motions but they 've got "no fist in their glove."

Lindsey is attacking Pelosi, congratulating and praising Netanyahui, and defending Barr.

She's in overdrive. See her last 4:Twitter posts. And, she's heading for Fox later.

On today's deadline for Trump's tax returns, Mnuchin says no... big surprise

[quote]Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said Wednesday that the department will not be able to finish its review of Democrats' request for President Trump's tax returns by Wednesday -- the deadline that Democrats had given the IRS to provide the documents.

[quote]"The [Ways and Means] Committee requests the materials by April 10, but the Treasury Department will not be able to complete its review of your request by that date," Mnuchin said in a letter to committee chairman Richard Neal (D-Mass.).

Unbelievable. What do you do when these people willfully break the law? In front of your face? I hope they’re all dragged before the House and thrown in jail until they comply.

R491, that’s what I want to know. I don’t think that citing laws and regulations is scaring Republicans. Can we learn to play dirty? It’s so exhausting.

[quote] So much for that rough and tough new state AG they voted in over there.

*sigh*

In the name of maintaining accuracy here, Letitia James is the AG of New York State. SDNY is Federal court.

And as we've seen with Mueller's grand jury, the court system is generally quite slow.

NYS is moving forward with state charges; it's going to take a bit of time to get all their ducks in a row.

SDNY picked up quite a few of Mueller's investigations; they're moving fairly quickly in legal terms.

Thank you, R493!

Did anyone in the press pool call out that fucking orange PoS when he was saying over and over that child separation was an Obama admin thing? I bet not. They never do call him out.

No they did not, R495.

R495 when does anyone in the press ever call out Dotard for his numerous lies?

How the fuck did Barr get away with TELLING the House committee today that he was not going to do something? He just fucking got in their faces and told them. And there was no push back? WTF?

He was asked on what basis did he make a determination that Trump did not obstruct justice? He said, "I'm not going to get into that with you and discuss how I arrived at that decision...." I was just stunned.

NYT: Treasury Declines House Request for Trump’s Tax Returns

Shocking!

Treasury is stalling. THey colluded with the office of the WH Counsel (Barr's son in law) even before this request was made. They anticipated it. Trump probably told them to make sure they were ready for it right after the Dems won the House.

R502, and what are Dems going to do about it?

There's something almost poetic about the IRS breaking federal law five days before federal taxes are due.

[quote]The House needs to just initiate impeachment proceedings and get ahold of the full, unredacted report that way. I’m getting really sick of this bullshit.

Does anyone know if there is any time table involved in impeachment proceedings? Could the Democrats open an impeachment investigation and just keep it officially open for the next two years without actually impeaching?

Also, this crap from Barr about people "spying" on Trump is only to shape the narrative. He's not going to do anything and it will go nowhere but it will now be endlessly discussed, without merit. They are running a reelection campaign now, not a country (as if they ever were). Everything is just to be sensational now. There will be no investigation into "spying". Barr is playing political games, just like he did with Iran Contra and all the other criminal conspiracies in which he played the role of fixer. He isn't Trump's Roy Cohn. He's Trump's new Michael Cohen. Let's hope it ends up the same way.

Absolutely agree, R505, this is the opening act in their campaign circus.

[quote]The House needs to just initiate impeachment proceedings and get ahold of the full, unredacted report that way. I’m getting really sick of this bullshit.

It is one way to guarantee the whole thing comes out. Whether House Dems have the stones to do that right now....who knows.

Who is the hero in all of this mess that will save the day? I hate where this is going

[quote] R484: Why haven't the House Judiciary and Intelligence Committees yet subpoenaed Robert S. Mueller III to testify, and haven't given a deadline to Barr to submit unredacted copies of the reports to them?

I don’t know, but I’ve noticed that the Congress seems reluctant to issue subpoenas. I don’t know why, but there must be a reason.

I just got a NYT Alert about some Obama aide getting arrested for something having to do with the Russia investigation, but I can’t find the article. What the fucking fuck?!

Waterboard the fat fuck, snatch the report out of Mueller's hands and read the goddam thing into the record, unredacted, on C-SPAN.

The lock the obstructing fat fucks up in rikers and be done with this nonsense charade.

“WASHINGTON — Lawyers for Gregory B. Craig, a White House counsel in the Obama administration, expect him to be indicted in the coming days on charges related to his work for the Russia-aligned government of Ukraine.

The case against Mr. Craig, 74, stemmed from an investigation initiated by the office of the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III.

An Ivy League-educated lawyer who held prominent positions in the Clinton and Obama administrations, Mr. Craig would become the first person associated with the Democratic Party to be charged in a case linked to the special counsel’s investigation.

Mr. Craig would also become the first person to be charged in a case linked to the special counsel after Mr. Mueller finished his investigation into the 2016 presidential election. In a summary of the inquiry, Attorney General William P. Barr said that the special counsel’s team had concluded that there was no evidence that President Trump or his aides “conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.

They are waiting to bring Mueller in until they have gotten the report from Barr. It would be stupid to bring him in before they've seen anything, redacted or not. I also wouldn't put too much hope that Mueller will be all that forthcoming. Not because he's covering for anything like Barr is but because he wouldn't see it as his place to say certain things. I'm imagining a lot of "You'll have to ask the DoJ about that." or "That was outside the scope of my responsibility and stated duties. You'll have to talk to AG Barr." or "References to that have been determined to be unable to be discussed by the AG." He's a boy scout.

[quote] R485: When Barr said he thought there was "spying" on the Trump campaign, I think he is talking about the same thing as when Trump declare that “Obama tapped his wires”. That’s been investigated and dismissed.

In the US, we investigate crimes, not people, but Trump has that backwards, demanding that Hillary, Comey, Obama, Mueller, and others be investigated. If he does cite a “crime”, it’s often one that lacks any evidence at all, such as his complaint about Obama tapping his wires. It’s just baseless accusations.

The President should be ignored!

R514 There are other members of Mueller Teams the House can interview. It's not like the investigation was a solo effort.

Thanks, r513. I thought it had something to do with Barr's idiocy today. I’m ridiculously edgy today. Ugh.

IRS said NO to releasing Trump's tax returns...Everyone, even the IRS, are protecting the Orange fuck.

So, this Obama White House guy getting indicted...Million to one that this was someone Mueller refused to prosecute but who was mentioned in the report and now Barr is indicting him while letting all the Trump criminals live under their redactions.

Isn't anyone here curious as to Mueller's complete about-face regarding the Investigation- not only in terms of the *Conclusion* of the Report, which we can only guess at now, but the real prosecuteorial zeal he was showing in going after Manafort, other investigations that he was continuing to work on- and then all of a sudden- *poof*. I know many here are crestfallen, and trully dismayed at the potential of Mueller stringing us along the Whole time, but what if it was a case where we have seen in other cases, such as with Stormy Daniels and Cohen, who both claimed that thrir very lives and those of loved ones were threatened. What if in fact this same scenario played out with Mueller, and he suddenly ( and drastically) had to pull back? He would then have had to depart in haste, to leave those still standing to do the best they could. It makes as much sense as anything else in this horrific house of cards...

I don't think that Mueller was stringing anyone along because it wouldn't make sense. If he wanted to do that he would have just concluded the investigation six months after the fact and claimed there was nothing to see.

I do believe that things ended abruptly, probably because Barr pulled the plug, and they couldn't gather the 100,000,000 pieces of evidence these criminals fucking committed.

R520 Yes, it's obvious that Barr obstructed Mueller's team and prematurely ended the investigation! Barr is turning the DOJ into Department of Trump Justice. If he is not stopped, he will be going after Trump's enemies soon enough. These are desperate cornered rats. There is nothing too low for them.

I agree with R520. Even a tough guy like Mueller can fold when his wife and daughters are threatened.

I think Mueller's people are going to fight back. I won't be surprised if somehow that unredacted reports, or parts of it find their way into the hands of a very select few members of Congress. Democrats. Pelosi, Schumer, and a couple more.

On and a report compiled in March 2019, by the DHS and the FBI, confirms that the Russians actively successfully hacked all 50 states not 21 or 37 as was previously indicated. All of them. Rachel has it.

There's no doubt in my mind that Barr put a stop to the Mueller investigation as soon as he could without having it look TOO blatantly obvious (as opposed to just... obvious). The only thing surprises me is that Barr doesn't just right and admit it.

As many have already pointed out in this thread, his followers will follow him to the bitter end, like lemmings off the cliff. Their utter hatred and racism born and festering during the Obama years, has made them blind to any rational thought or objective criticsm of their Orange Master. It will only be when things are SO BAD e.g. Trump andcthe Republicans have cut Medicaid, Medicare, 10 more Auto plants have closed, and the $$$ has dried up for those Tariff- generated Farming subsidies. That's when all these Morons will finally get a clue and start saying, "But what about MOI?"

I would laugh, but we're going to have to suffer along with the rest of them.

Trump’s sister retires from the federal judiciary to avoid ethics investigation into her taxes

On Wednesday, The New York Times reported that Maryanne Trump Barry, President Donald Trump’s older sister, is retiring as a federal judge. Trump Barry, who sits on the Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit, was hit with a misconduct complaint last October, stemming from a report that the Trump family used fraudulent tax schemes to increase their inheritance. Retiring from the bench ends that investigation.

Is that how it works? I can rob a bank and just retire to avoid prosecution?

Every single day I pray to God that Michael Cohen or someone else has Trump on tape. In my fantasy he's talking about Putin, Russia, and all the money they're pouring in to him becoming President and how he wants Manafort to handle it, etc. I hear him admit it, hear his voice admit to treason.

In my dream scenario, there are other tapes where he talks about his deals with China, Russia, and the Saudis. I want him to say "Fuck Congress they're all morons. " I want him to mock and ridicule Nunes, Ryan, and MCConnell.

Then, and this is fantasy of course, Public opinion will require many in Congress to rethink their position of protecting him. McConnell may not be able to contain his caucus because he will get desertions. I know. But we need a fucking break soon.

Per the NYT:

President Trump’s older sister, Maryanne Trump Barry, has retired as a federal appellate judge, ending an investigation into whether she violated judicial conduct rules by participating in fraudulent tax schemes with her siblings.

The court inquiry stemmed from complaints filed last October, after an investigation by The New York Times found that the Trumps had engaged in dubious tax schemes during the 1990s, including instances of outright fraud, that greatly increased the inherited wealth of Mr. Trump and his siblings. Judge Barry not only benefited financially from most of those tax schemes, The Times found; she was also in a position to influence the actions taken by her family.

Judge Barry, now 82, has not heard cases in more than two years but was still listed as an inactive senior judge, one step short of full retirement. In a letter dated Feb. 1, a court official notified the four individuals who had filed the complaints that the investigation was “receiving the full attention” of a judicial conduct council. Ten days later, Judge Barry filed her retirement papers... In retirement, Judge Barry is entitled to receive annually the salary she earned when she last met certain workload requirements. Ten days later, Judge Barry filed her retirement papers.

^^^ In retirement, Judge Barry is entitled to receive annually the salary she earned when she last met certain workload requirements. Though the exact figure was not immediately available, it appears to be between $184,500 and $217,600.

R528, this wouldn’t stop her from being criminally prosecuted for tax evasion.

[quote] "Fuck Congress they're all morons. " I want him to mock and ridicule Nunes, Ryan, and MCConnell.

He can mock them all to their faces and they would still lick his taint, support, and vote for him. Trust me, I know.

it's not a question of who Trump wants to mock. who do we want to mock? There are definitely some Congresscritters that every prominent Democrat should be mocking constantly: Devin Nunes, Lindsay Graham, Mitch McConnell, Kevin McCarthy, Ted Cruz, and many others. Constantly ask why they are whores and slaves for Trump. Constantly ask why they think that the President of the United States should be Putin's buttboy. We really have to learn the high arts of personal destruction, which we once knew so well.

The Trump inheritance scam happened between 1999 and 2006, so the statute of limitations may have run out by now.

whores and slaves should be a constant in our vocabulary. Why are Republicans such whores and slaves for Trump? For the rich? For the Russians? Why is this? When did it happen and become so normalized?

R535, perhaps. But fraudulent activity, and the continuing concealment of the inheritance fraud, may have gone on for years afterwards. We’ll probably never know the truth of it.

Just wow. I am the Former Congressional Intern and Barr's behavior is jaw-dropping as is the response, or lack of, from the GOP. The rule of law is dead. That being dead, so is our republic.

I do not think we are there, yet. I am holding out hope a few in our institutions and congress expose this. They will. They have to. They know the stakes.

This is a stark reminder to VOTE! Vote for the right team, even if that team is not perfect. If the difference in the parties is not clear now, you are blind as a bat in a solar flare.

I've given up. Every day it's "I don't understand people" or "i don't understand Americans" or "do you think the people who didn't vote in 2016 and 2018 are laughing their asses off?" or "is this the government tyranny the authors of the Second Amendment meant, or are modern-day Americans now interpreting government tyranny as students and people who happened by when the gun-toter had blacked out or flipped his wig?"

Better I use the apathy or misplaced bile from Americans who didn't vote Democratic because they didn't see anything wrong about Trump (my compatriots sure did; d'you think it was because we don't have FOX News?) to mobilize me to get my house up for sale.

"Show us the tax returns!"

"No can do."

"Show us the whole report that took two years of investigation and yielded terabytes of data."

"Maybe I don't wanna."

"I don't got time for this Congressional testimony crap. I have a foreign dignitary in my office waiting for me. I'll be twenty minutes late! I'll miss out on fruit cup!"

Go talk to a nonvoter. You can tell them by their bandaged knuckles from dragging them on the pavement, or by the frostbite on their noses from being so high up in the rarefied air of the mesosphere. Ask them if they're happy they didn't cast a vote.

there's actually no statute of limitations in the Court of Public Opinion. Why don't Democrats actually use that shit? There was no end to Republicans using a fucking nonexistent Birth Ceritifcate for years? Here we have an actual con artist, grifter, liar, and whore, and we cannot make use of that, seriously?

Seriously, Shade of LBJ, I Invoke Thee, MAKE THIS SHIT HAPPEN!

I’ve said it before, there is no Mueller ex machina that’s going to save the day. I don’t mean to be a downer but I don’t see the Dems fighting down in the mud like they should. There aren’t any heroes playing 12 dimensional chess. We’re fucked. I’m sad and discouraged.

[quote]I can rob a bank and just retire to avoid prosecution?

She wasn't facing criminal charges. It was an ethics investigation, the most that would have happened is that she would have been removed from the bench. She beat them to the punch.

Mueller shouldn't save us. We always and everywhere need to save ourselves R544. We just have to get this. We actually can save ourselves if we actually give a damn.

We can’t save ourselves when a foreign power can hack our voting machines. Russia changed votes and handed the election to Trump. They can do it again.

[quote]I don’t mean to be a downer but I don’t see the Dems fighting down in the mud like they should.

A few have been fighting back. Ted Lieu, Ron Wyden, Rosenthal, Nadler, Swalwell, Pelosi, Klobuchar, just to name a few.

It's gonna get hella ugly though.

R547 you can bet they'll do it again.

There's a reason the fucker just proclaimed he'd win CA in 2020 despite currently having somewhere around a 65% disapproval rating in CA.

FUCK Russia. FUCK them. We can and will not let them change votes in 2020. FUCK that shithole country. Seriously one of the worst and stupidest countries in the world.

R548 how dare you forget someone off that list.

And notice how many from that list are from CA.

Pres Bone Spurs was driving through Pasadena, Tx today. Urban Cowboy country (of Gilley's fame). He could have had the decency to ride the mechanical bull and break his neck?

My bad, R551!

Not to forget Auntie Maxine of course.

Im still hoping that one day we'll see Ivanka hauled off.

So where do we go from here?

R555

I love Adam.

I love Ted even more than Adam.

He does fantastic work calling the Orange one out.

I like Ted a lot too. I'd support him on a ticket!

It's pretty clear by now that Jared will suck Saudi dick for cash to save 666 Fifth Ave.

JFC Kushner is terrifying to look at.

R564 I've always suspected he just likes to suck dick in general.

What happened with Omarosa? She sort of just fizzled away?

I don't really care for Avenatti but something about the Nike thing doesn't sit right with me. It almost felt like he was actually being targeted by someone to just get back at him.

Basta!

I will say that I would have been happy to do Avenatti's cavity search.

One thing to remember about Barr before congress the past two days. He was before the Appropriations Committee in both the House and Senate. He wasn't in front of the Judicial Committee. The Judicial Committee has folks like Kamala Harris, Cory Booker and Amy Klobuchar who will be looking to hit hard and score points. I so want to see Kamala go after Barr. He will be weeping like a fat baby.

When does he go before the Judicial?

Did anything come of the server Cohen, "found?"

When they call him up to explain his comments about "Spying." He can also be called before Intelligence. He's got a long road ahead. I hope he hydrates.

[quote]I so want to see Kamala go after Barr. He will be weeping like a fat baby.

I was actually really unimpressed with how Kamala handled Kavanaugh. I thought Klobuchar did a better job. Booker was a fucking embarrassment all around. Whichever one of them on the committee can make that fat bastard sweat, though, is good with me.

The Senate Dems aren's in charge of calling people in front of their committee. That would be up to Miss Lindz.

Jerry Nadler Chairs House Judiciary and Adam Schiff is Chair of House Judiciary. Barr will have to appear before Judiciary to explain his redactions. Schiff may call him up sooner to explain is "Spy" comments.

*Schiff is House Intelligence. Sorry it's late.

Barr will just claim some sort of privilege or pull a Keebler Elf, "I don't recall."

I don't think that will work when they ask him how/why he decided to exonerate Trump on Obstruction in less than 48 hours when Mueller couldn't do in two years. Buba has some 'plaining to do. He may classify the whole thing and tell the committees to take a hike. He also has to rule now on Trump's Tax Returns. Treasury sent letter today saying no and they would be consulting with DOJ on what the law is. We'll see just how corrupt he is when he interprets "shall provide" in any way other than "shall provide."

He'll probably just answer by saying, "I don't have to tell you anything. Suck it."

Sounds about right.

If the Rule of Law is truly dead, and it’s starting to look that way, then there is no stopping this train to Hell until we, en mass, take to the streets. It appears this country was completely sold out, probably decades ago, and they have covered enough bases to the point they can opening discard the Rule of Law with certainty no one will or can touch them. How else can we explain how they are opening , boldly committing these crimes?

Because they know the fix is in.

R583, the fucker Barr will just say that the law about turning over tax returns doesn't apply to the president. You know, just like all the other laws.

The Repugs are still acting too arrogant. Like they know nothing is ever going to happen to them. Russia already tell them how they're rigging 2020?

I can only hope that Watergate literally just repeats itself.

Remember the cover up is always worse than the crime.

Trump will and can literally get away with anything.

I just can't believe it. And now they are indicting Dems.

America is dead.

R587 of course they know it's going to be rigged again.

Why else wouldn't they vote to actually secure our voting system? How in any world, does it make sense to vote against that?

And again, Drumpf was out there saying he was going to win CA. You know he said it because they probably told him that's what they're going to do.

As if it wasn't obvious enough, R589 is a troll.

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Did you guys hear about that fat, closeted drunk Matt Gaetz filing a bill called the “PENCIL Act”? Preventing Extreme Negligence with Classified Information Licenses Act designed to force the removal of Adam Schiff (and clearly invoking Trump’s “pencil-neck” taunt). I’m surprised that cunt could put the bottle down long enough to file this.