I mean did all the descendants of Egyptians, Berbers, Carthaginians, Phoenicians, Assyrians, Hittites etc all die out? I find it hard to imagine they were all killed or got mixed in with the Arab invaders. We know the Arabs came from the Arabian Peninsula. Yes their religion, language and culture spread throughout the Middle East but I can't imagine their dna being in every person there.
Are the Arab-speaking Middle Eastern and North African countries really majority population of Arabs?
by Anonymous | reply 30 | April 8, 2019 6:55 PM |
Stealth racist thread.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | April 2, 2019 7:20 PM |
Language and culture do not equal genetics. Anthropology 101.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | April 2, 2019 7:23 PM |
Those groups are fairly irrelevant 3000 years later, except perhaps Berbers, who are the Morrocan equivalent of aborigines or indigenous North Americans.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | April 2, 2019 7:27 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 4 | April 2, 2019 10:43 PM |
OP Wikipedia shows you demographics in each of those countries. The non-Arabs are now minorities on their own land just like native Americans in the US of A
by Anonymous | reply 5 | April 2, 2019 10:49 PM |
Look, fucking has been going on since the dawn of time and everyone has a percentage of this or that. It's just that some have more of this and some have more of that. Very few people are "pure" aka "inbred" as Conan O' Brien explained when he did his DNA and the doctor said that having only "pure" genetics means your ancestors were fucking within the family.
Racists and bigots are just such genuinely stupid people and the obsession with this nonsense is pathetic.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | April 2, 2019 10:55 PM |
OP = typical retard who can't look up the answer to his own dumb, easy question.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | April 8, 2019 4:15 AM |
"Arab" is yet another Western-invented general label for people from North African, the Near and Middle East, and has been adopted for political purposes. The only Arabs are from Saudi Arabia. The rest are Moroccans, Tunisians, Algerians, Syrians, Egyptians, Iraqis, Jordanians, Kuwaitis, Qataris, etc.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | April 8, 2019 4:15 AM |
Christian copts are genetically the same as ancient egyptians. There was a new paper that came out recently.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | April 8, 2019 4:28 AM |
OP: Do you mean Muslims? I get confused too. They're all Arabs to me.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | April 8, 2019 4:42 AM |
Read a book, R12.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | April 8, 2019 5:36 AM |
The people of the middle east and north africa are related genetically. Except for Egypt and to a somewhat lesser extent, Mesopotamia ( the valley of the Tigris and the Euphrates), where people were farmers who stayed on their land, most of the region was traversed by nomads, people who tended flocks of sheep, goats, and camels. Therefore, they have been "mixing" genetically for thousands of years in the same territory. People belonged to tribes, but the tribes might have been scattered over hundreds or even thousands of square miles. When the Arabs left peninsular Arabia on their Islamic conquests, they imposed their language and religion on places with smaller populations and on the tribes they were already related to. North Africa, other than Egypt was very sparsely populated. Arabs conquered Persia, but the natives were not willing to give up their language, although they accepted Islam as their religion. I would say that Arabia, Syria, Lebanon, Kuwait, and Iraq are all majority Arab, genetically as well as linguistically. Egypt and North Africa have a fairly large Arab genetic component, but also other dominant components from earlier times, so I would say that the Arab genetic component is less than half in those countries. Once you get down the Nile into the Sudan, Somalia and other regions, the Arab genetic influence is much much smaller.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | April 8, 2019 9:07 AM |
Whoops, left out Jordan, which is a genetically Arab country, as well as Palestinian territories and the Bedouins of the Negev desert in Israel.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | April 8, 2019 9:09 AM |
You see all sorts of people in Cairo and Algiers.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | April 8, 2019 9:12 AM |
[quote]left out Jordan, which is a genetically Arab country
They're 'genetically Arab' because the Hashemite tribe was originally from Saudi Arabia. They got kicked out by the stronger Saud tribe.
[quote]as well as Palestinian territories
Not quite. Lebanese, Beduin, Druse, Greater Syrian, Circassian, and Armenian are counted as "Palestinian" though they are not. The Beduin in the Negev are largely of Egyptian origin. The Beduin in the Galilee are partly Egyptian.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | April 8, 2019 9:24 AM |
^^^ Hashemi, not Hashemite ^^^
by Anonymous | reply 18 | April 8, 2019 9:25 AM |
What percentage Arabic admixture do Jewish people have (or vice versa)?
by Anonymous | reply 19 | April 8, 2019 9:30 AM |
Amurcans consider everyone from Morocco to Nepal towel heads, plain and simple. And up to Iraq they must all be A Rabs. Keep it simple.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | April 8, 2019 9:31 AM |
R11 I visited Egypt in 2010 and our tour leader essentially said the same thing : Coptic Christian Egyptians are genetically related to the ancient Egyptians. Fun fact: camels were introduced to Egypt by the Arab invaders.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | April 8, 2019 1:43 PM |
Do 'white Arabs' i.e. those of light skin tone and blue/green/hazel eyes have European/Crusader ancestry?
by Anonymous | reply 22 | April 8, 2019 1:48 PM |
Oh for crissakes!
by Anonymous | reply 23 | April 8, 2019 2:48 PM |
No most are just Arablized locals. Morocco and Algeria have large swaths of Berbers and you have to remember the Vandals were pushed out Europe into Africa, so they are still there in mixed form too. And no self respecting Egyptian identifies as Arab.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | April 8, 2019 2:57 PM |
I once read in Somalia the natives had to run and hide from the Arabs, who were hunting them down and chopping their heads off.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | April 8, 2019 3:17 PM |
Light-skinned Arabs are probably descendants of those who intermarried with people from the Causcuses, not Europeans or Crusaders.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | April 8, 2019 4:34 PM |
[quote] Coptic Christian Egyptians are genetically related to the ancient Egyptians.
I'm sure most Egyptians, Christian or Muslim, are genetically related to the ancient Egyptians.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | April 8, 2019 4:38 PM |
[quote] Light-skinned Arabs are probably descendants of those who intermarried with people from the Causcuses, not Europeans or Crusaders.
Their light skin makes sense for where they are in the world. Skin color changes gradually from the equator and moving north to adapt to the sun.
Most Arabs are light skinned for that very reason
by Anonymous | reply 28 | April 8, 2019 4:39 PM |
Kabyle berbers are often handsome and with sizemeat! Not Arab. All over North Africa.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | April 8, 2019 4:43 PM |
"Not quite. Lebanese, Beduin, Druse, Greater Syrian, Circassian, and Armenian are counted as "Palestinian" though they are not. The Beduin in the Negev are largely of Egyptian origin. The Beduin in the Galilee are partly Egyptian."
First of all, there is no distinct group known as "Palestinian". In general, anyone could claim to be "Palestinian" who lived in the British protectorate of Palestine before the founding of Israel, but since that time, includes only non-Jews. That included Lebanese, Bedouins, Druse, some Syrians - the Circassians lived mainly in the Golan Heights and don't identify as Palestinian. Likewise, the few Armenians in Israel don't identify as Palestinian. But, the majority of self-identified Palestinians are largely Arab -formerly a mix of Christian and Muslim Arabs, but increasingly Muslim. Interestingly, genetically the Palestinians are quite closely related to the Jews as well as to Jordanians and to the people of the northern part of Arabia. That makes sense - there are lots of people whose ancestors never left the geographic region and of course they are closely-related genetically, no matter how much their present day descendants like to deny it . According to all the sources I have consulted, the Bedouins are ALWAYS considered Arab - no matter what country they are residing in. Their name for themselves, Bedawi, is an Arab word meaning desert dweller.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | April 8, 2019 6:55 PM |