DL Attorneys take note.
25 dying professions
|by Anonymous||reply 76||04/22/2019|
I'm not clicking through 25 separate slides, OP
|by Anonymous||reply 1||03/29/2019|
R1, you only have to click once on the link to view the entire article, you dope.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||03/29/2019|
Thank heavens I am safe!
|by Anonymous||reply 3||03/29/2019|
R2, you're a lying clickbate cuntrag.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||03/29/2019|
To spare all those who don't want to endure clickbait, here is the list:
1. Travel Agent
2. Mortgage Brokers
5. Broadcasters (Radio and TV, but mostly Radio)
6. Middle Managers ( blames the software Oracle and Salesforce )
7. Casino Cashier
8. IT Support
9. Financial Planners
10. Floral Designers
11. Postal Workers
12. Photo Processor
13. Data Entry Clerk
14. Telephone Switchboard Operators
15. Farmers and Ranchers
16. Fast Food Cook
17. Newspaper Reporter
19. Textile Machine Workers
20. Furniture Finisher
21. Door-To-Door Salespeople
22. Print Binding and Finishing Workers
24. Routine Architect ( blames engineers and self-taught artists/entrepreneurs )
25. Primary Care Physicians
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|by Anonymous||reply 6||03/29/2019|
This is ridiculous, and I'm even a futurist.
Is it speaking in terms of many decades? Then maybe its right, and only sort of. By dying, does it mean a decline in employment? Then sure I guess.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||03/29/2019|
Most people are going to be unemployed, right?
|by Anonymous||reply 8||03/29/2019|
Christian bookstore clerk.
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|by Anonymous||reply 10||03/29/2019|
Wait. Lawyers. How can that be so?
|by Anonymous||reply 11||03/29/2019|
We still have telephone switchboard operators and textile machine workers? Door to door salespeople? That article's not exactly shocking.
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|by Anonymous||reply 13||03/30/2019|
I think it would be more revealing if they arranged those professions in categories from most likely to dissapear soon to least likely.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||03/30/2019|
I manage the data entry (or as I like to call it, data integrity) department for an insurance company and, based on the inept technology I’m seeing so far, data entry jobs are not going away any time soon.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||03/30/2019|
Yea that list is bogus. Lawyers are here to stay.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||03/31/2019|
Not if I have my way.
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|by Anonymous||reply 18||04/14/2019|
You’ll always need teachers, so let’s try to pay them
|by Anonymous||reply 19||04/14/2019|
Lawyers? LOL! As long as people keep committing crimes I can keep eating.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||04/14/2019|
And, r20, as long as people want to sue others for looking at them wrong....
|by Anonymous||reply 21||04/14/2019|
Depends on the area of law. Doc review can most certainly be done faster and cheaper via AI.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||04/14/2019|
So.... where does personal income come from, once AI is allowed to take over everything?
|by Anonymous||reply 23||04/14/2019|
It’ll be poor city
|by Anonymous||reply 24||04/14/2019|
Nice. So glad people are rushing to embrace technology that society isn't evolved enough to handle.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||04/14/2019|
No ethics with AI. It’ll be our downfall.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||04/14/2019|
I'm an IT Support Manager. The good news is that my salary is far above the median listed. The bad news, well, is that I'm on the list.
In my company, we could easily outsource my department, but I think the CIO likes having a large number of people under his umbrella, and the company I work for is not very forward-thinking when it comes to new ideas.
My last company outsourced the Level 1 support and the users hated it. Whenever they'd pick up the phone, the support person would start at the most basic level, whereas the in-house people knew that if it was Jan from the Detroit office, she'd already done all the basic troubleshooting and really needed you to connect remotely and get her back up, not waste 10 minutes asking her dumb questions like 'Is the printer turned on?' As soon as the contract expired, we brought it all back in-house.
I'm hoping to retire in 2-3 years so I don't really care what happens after that.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||04/14/2019|
[quote]No ethics with AI. It’ll be our downfall.
First, kill all the tech developers.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||04/14/2019|
Most "lawery-ing" does not take place in a courtroom R11 & R16. It is writing a lot of briefs, responding to motions, reviewing testimony/affidavits. ALL of which can be outsourced.
There will always be a need for attorneys, but not nearly as many as we have today. It is already an incredibly cut throat business as it is.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||04/14/2019|
you bitches better have some airtight disaster recovery plans before you lay off your sysadmins.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||04/14/2019|
The legal market has been tightening for more than a decade. A lot of work that decades ago would be done by first year associates is now done by temp attorneys (doc review). A portion of that doc review has been outsourced to attorneys in India or elsewhere. Tightening the noose, around 2008 corporations started paying attention to their legal bills and demanding more reasonable pricing, which cut into the number of temp attorneys and their pay rates. As for the small town practitioner, whose bread and butter used to be wills and divorces, with some occasional business agreements - thanks to Legal Zoom, consumers can take care of the small stuff by themselves.
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[quote] . A lot of work that decades ago would be done by first year associates is now done by temp attorneys (doc review).
Doc review is not what first year associates do. Naturally it depends on the law firm but if that's all they're doing then the firm is wasting money paying lawyers for that.
And no respectable lawyer or law firm would farm out the major portions of a case. The reality is when I walk into a courtroom I - me myself - need to know every aspect of that case. Technology has made research, investigation and preparation on a case much much easier to accomplish in-house. I can do many things myself and for some things I prefer it. I want my eyes on that caselaw to decide what I can and can't use. That's why my experience is invaluable.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||04/14/2019|
Women who refuse double anal in porn.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||04/14/2019|
Yes indeed - if not punched in by people how the hell is the data going to be entered into systems. Whoever wrote the article didn't really put a lot of thought into it.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||04/14/2019|
Why would floral designers (florists) go away? Are robots going to arrange flowers now? And no fast food cooks? Who will you yell at when your robot grill cook gets your order wrong?
|by Anonymous||reply 35||04/14/2019|
DL elder gays would be dead by then. No need to worry
|by Anonymous||reply 36||04/14/2019|
R35, I thought the same thing. I can envision robots doing a lot, but not floral design - unless people simply pick a design from photos. But even then, actually arranging flowers takes a lot of fine motor skills. I don’t think a Small Wonder robot is on the horizon yet.
R36, I’d like to move you to the top of the list. No one will miss you.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||04/14/2019|
I was told in 1982 that computers would put my field would put my field out of business by 2000.
Well..... It’s not as dominant as it was in 1982, but the field is still very much here and there are still many of us doing it.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||04/14/2019|
r38 here — sorry about the “echo” typo above.
I want to add that it’s never good for the rest of us if a lot of jobs go under.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||04/14/2019|
^ Are you being purposefully opaque about your profession?
|by Anonymous||reply 40||04/14/2019|
Im, like, gonna be a lawyer too, so lawyering will have to keep up with meeeee...
|by Anonymous||reply 41||04/14/2019|
My old boss was a “valve specialist” in heart surgery. He had pioneered a few different procedures. He was a big deal and was sought out by people around the world to do their surgery. He was very vain and our specialty - heart surgery - was the top group in the hospital. We had our own recovery room, our own ICU. We got tons more money than any other surgical group. We had 10 NPs.
My boss looked down on cardiologists — it’s a thing in medicine. Lots of jealousy between doctors. He and the cardiologists fought all the time. When angioplasty came along all the heart surgeons protested. They didn’t believe cardiologists should be allowed to do invasive procedures. They spread rumors that it had a very high mortality rate.
Anyway, I’m retired and I just read about Mick Jagger’s valve procedure. My boss died a few years ago (cancer — only 64 years old) and when he died, his procedure for valve surgery was the newest. Now cardiologists can replace an aortic valve in a half an hour! All of my boss’s work — which gave meaning to his life; he cared about nothing else — is obsolete.
It would KILL him if he wasn’t dead already.
The old way of training heart surgeons is gone now. And good riddance. It was torture to the residents, especially with my boss in charge. I’m sure the team doesn’t get nearly the money it used to get. I’m sure this means there are now fewer jobs for nurses in cardiac surgery. When I started out, the average patient stay for heart surgery was 2 weeks. When I left, they’d just done their first robotic arm procedure and wanted to discharge people the second day after surgery.
While nobody wants to stay on the hospital for a long time, I have to say, when we had patients in the hospital for a week or two, we really got to know them and their histories. We’d have 70 patients on our route list in the hospital, and we knew every one of them. Now people come and go so fast...there must be more errors these days. Nobody has a chance t9 get to know the patients before they’re discharged.
Another big change in nursing education. I’ve no idea how they do it now. When I started out 10-14 days was the average stay. People were admitted with stomach ulcers, eg (no Pepcid or Prilosec back then, no endoscopy yet). The nursing instructor would go on the floor the night before clinical and pick which patients to assign their student nurses. Last I heard, it was a disaster because the instructors had to go in at 6 am on clinical morning , pick patients, assign them to students and the dr would come in at 9 am and discharge the patients.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||04/14/2019|
What a garbage list. Postal workers? They’re more in demand than ever.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||04/14/2019|
I just don't see how my office would survive without a dedicated IT person.
What is someone supposed to do when their computer isn't working? Call a tech off site?
I have noticed our IT person who I work closely with has been talking A LOT lately about cyber threats. My company is not widely known or important but apparently our servers are constantly getting attacked by bots and all sorts of malicious actors.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||04/14/2019|
Cool post R42. I've heard that with the decline in smoking rates there are a lot of cardiac and vascular surgeons without enough work to do.
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|by Anonymous||reply 46||04/14/2019|
With technology, there will be less jobs. So, ironically, we’re going back to the Downton Abbey days.
The rich will have huge estates and will want personal servants. In turn, we’ll live in a feudalistic society which will consist of the extremely wealthy and the poor. There will be no middle class, in fact, it’s disappearing now in the US.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||04/14/2019|
You know what I wonder? All the people who claim to be allergic to perfume — what do you suppose people like that did when the main mode of transportation was the horse? There was horse shit everywhere. The entire world must’ve smelled like horse shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||04/14/2019|
[QUOTE]The rich will have huge estates and will want personal servants. In turn, we’ll live in a feudalistic society which will consist of the extremely wealthy and the poor. There will be no middle class, in fact, it’s disappearing now in the US.
What a bunch of crap. The “shrinking middle class” is a myth. We’re a long way from Pride & Prejudice, despite all the fear mongering about bread lines in the media. It’s just as much bullshit as the idea of robots making detectives and postal workers extinct.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||04/14/2019|
I've been saying this for a while a people here keep brushing it off. We're headed for a sea change in the way business is done. Lots of good paying jobs are going to be automated out of existence. We're really not prepared for what's coming.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||04/14/2019|
The percentage of Americans in the middle class has dropped 10% in recent decades. The only thing keeping even that many afloat is the switch from one-income to two-income households.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||04/14/2019|
[QUOTE]I've been saying this for a while
Yeah? How long have you been saying it, and when is it going to happen? You goddamn futurists keep making these vague predictions without any hard dates so when the time comes you can’t be held accountable for your bullshit. Tell us exactly WHEN the scary robots will make police detectives and lawyers obsolete.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||04/14/2019|
I’m surprised that translation is not on this list, not because computer-assisted translation is actually any good, but because companies are successfully persuading people that it is.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||04/14/2019|
R11 I’m an attorney. I come across articles now and then on AI that can or will someday do a lot of what an attorney does-such as research, CREATING legal arguments and writing briefs in support.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||04/14/2019|
There are creative aspects to a lot of jobs, even if they seem solely mundane. I think it is going to be realized pretty quickly that there are things humans bring to jobs that AI never will. Take the legal profession for example. Yeah, a computer can analyze the keywords in a huge number of documents but they will not sequentially connect three disparate cases with different but related properties that would be relevant to a certain case and then combine and extrapolate that information in such a way as to make new precedent that can be argued in court.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||04/14/2019|
[QUOTE]First, kill all the tech developers.
YES! Starting with the most notorious ones: Bezos, Fuckerberg and the Google assholes
|by Anonymous||reply 56||04/14/2019|
I'm not sure what routine architecture is, but I'll be damned if I'm getting in a building or on a bridge built by a self-taught architect.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||04/14/2019|
I'm not Psychic Sue, R52. I've mentioned that we're very likely to have problems with automation and employment in the years ahead several times on DL, but there's no magic crystal ball that's going to make the perfect future predictions that you're demanding. The very idea that anyone can make that sort of precise timeline prediction about such a massively complex subject is absurd. That doesn't mean that the broad outlines of a likely future aren't apparent.
I'm also not a futurist, of any sort. I've just been watching trends and looking at the analysis of other, smarter, people. One study says that half of US jobs will be seriously impacted by automation within 20 years. If it's even remotely that bad we're in for some serious societal problems. If you pay any attention at all you can see clearly that automation is rising in the workplace. Will it reach the level that it eliminates the ability of a significant part of the population to earn a living wage? Seems very likely to me, and as old as I am I'll still probably live to see it.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||04/14/2019|
[quote] I've heard that with the decline in smoking rates there are a lot of cardiac and vascular surgeons without enough work to do.
It's actually the push for statins. That cholesterol medication has made heart attacks go down dramatically.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||04/14/2019|
I don't see how a Primary Physician job is dying. There are too many people waiting to see their doctor, unless they're giving more roles to RNs. We have a department in our HMO that majors in preventive medicine, the RNs there specialize in diabetes, depression, osteoporosis, hypertension and prescribe medications and do patient teaching. Pharmacists has also taken that role. So I'm wondering if they are planning to use PAs and RNPs--- who make far less-- to take over some of the MD's responsibilities.
There is no way a robot/AI can take over a healthcare position. That needs person-to-person contact.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||04/14/2019|
What r47 said. Exactly. Then there's this:
[quote]I just don't see how my office would survive without a dedicated IT person.
Astonishing how people are being shown the ultimate end of society via the rise of technology, yet people keep saying they don't know how they're going to survive without people to keep serving technology.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||04/14/2019|
Primary care physicians? Come on, we cannot be diagnosing ourselves even as plentiful as online medical information is.
And if we eliminated primary care physicians, then the health care system would have to drastically change because you pretty much cannot be approved for anything unless you see your primary care physician first.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||04/14/2019|
Nurse practitioners, r62.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||04/14/2019|
r52 do you just not get that things happen incrementally, sometimes imperceptibly? Were you born after the advent of personal computers, so you don't remember a time before them?
|by Anonymous||reply 64||04/14/2019|
I can totally see primary care physicians being replaced by some kind of facial recognition with thermal input software that would look into your pupils, tell you to place your hands on a pad so it can take your temperature and pulse, tell you to stick you tongue out and say ahhhh, ask a couple of questions regarding your health, diagnose and print a prescription.
NO ONE is safe form this AI shitshow.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||04/14/2019|
Things That Were Going to Save Journalism
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Who is going to give me a digital rectal exam to feel my prostate? I want a male to do it, not a female.
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|by Anonymous||reply 68||04/14/2019|
[quote]Starting with the most notorious ones: Bezos, Fuckerberg and the Google assholes
And yet, how many billions of you are gratefully lapping up their assholes?
|by Anonymous||reply 69||04/14/2019|
No Amazon nor Facebook for me but I do use Google maps.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||04/14/2019|
Lesbian is a dying profession.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||04/15/2019|
16. Fast Food Cook.
Not while Trump is still breathing.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||04/15/2019|
Where I live, small houses of the middle class and working class are bought by the 1%, who knock the houses down and build giant McMegaMansions for million$. Working class people used to live near the estates they worked on. They did landscaping, were cooks, drivers, maids, nannies, oddjobbers, construction & maintenance. Now, middle & working class people can’t afford to live here. The most decrepit house sells for at least $800k. It’s the land that’s important.
Now we have traffic jams lasting hours as construction people, pool companies, tilers, roofers, sprinkler guys, bakery trucks, people who deliver bottled water, florists, oil and gas companies, plumbers & electricians try to get to their jobs on the one road that runs in and out of here. Oh — and rental cars. Huge trucks full of rental cars. They drop the cars off and puck them up at various McMegaMansions.
When my son was a teen he thought he’d be an Uber or Lyft driver out here in summer to make some money. Ha. Everybody rents Mercedes, BMWs, Porsches and Lamborghinis out here. They don’t want to be driven around in some kid’s pre-owned Mustang. And delivery people use lil smart cars.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||04/15/2019|
I had forgotten that there ever were telephone operators.
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|by Anonymous||reply 75||04/22/2019|
[quote] They don’t want to be driven around in some kid’s pre-owned Mustang
Isn't that funny. As a New Yorker who doesn't own a car, I honestly don't give a thought as to what kind of car I'm getting when I order an Uber or Lyft. And two seconds after my feet hit the pavement, I couldn't tell you what kind of car I was just in.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||04/22/2019|