Millennial straight men from New England who easily pass as gay

Probably because these dudes are gay. I think all men are kinda gay to be quite frank.

I am from Massachusetts and noticed this as well. I don't think it is a bad thing.

I agree that it's mostly a good thing, R2, because it speaks to greater acceptance of gay people. I did find it annoying, and occasionally heartbreaking, in college when a guy I had a thing for who had been seemingly sending signals turned out to be straight. I guess I grew up around more stereotypically masculine men than the upper-middle class white twinks from the Boston suburbs I was later surrounded by.

I can't believe that OP has identified this Only-In-New-England phenomenon.

You cross the border into New York State and that shit just shuts down. Straight guys act straight and don't try any of that fake passing-for-gay shit.

No sireee. It is just those New England psychos.

Must be the Purtian roots

The stereotypical masculine men seem to thrive on the attention (whether from a male or female, in my opinion. Maybe it is a bad thing since they are breaking hearts in the process.

A lot of younger guys in these liberal areas aren't insecure in their masculinity. The alpha male, look how not gay I am, and I'l only talk about cars and football thing is so passé these days.

I'm not OP, but trust me it is very prevalent in Mass. Too many mixed signals from parents, media, friends, etc. Lines get crossed.

It isn't just a New England thing. I went back to my alma mater in the South, for a project, and there were lots of young guys like this there. I became friends with one, who was a major pussyhound, but we would lie in his bed watching Netflix.

Is this part of Kevin’s research for his “the twink was sending me signals” defense?

It's the same in CA. My brother is 12 years younger, and you can never really tell who is gay. It's fine with me.

I'm not in New England, but a thing I overheard my old-school Italian Pa telling my mom, after meeting my younger cousin's guy friends: "You can't even tell anymore these days," with a bewildered look on his face. 😆

Blame the New England boarding schools.

I hold a special place in my heart for those closeted New England rowers and swimmers. Very good memories.

r8 Your buddy is a fag my friend. He's a pussyhound in the likes of Rock Hudson, DiCaprio, Jack...if ya catch my drift. Actually he might have caught yours.

And therein lies the rub, some hopeless queens like r14 that can't evolve to not trying to get into every's guy pants.

Straight men that are completely comfortable with gay men is a good thing, of course you would try to Kevin Spacey him and make him run to the homophobia side.

The shift was captured well in "21 Jump Street", where have to realize it isn't like the past were the cool kids were meathead jocks, but instead were all the progressive hipster types.

Okay, R4, I admit to being overly specific in an effort to be controversial. And to be fair, one of the greatest offenders on this score was a friend of mine from New Jersey who was a former high school wrestler. He loved hanging out with gay men, was routinely the cattiest of our group, jealously put down any guy I expressed interest in, and often commented on men's bodies. One of our gay friends would hit on him constantly, and apparently he said "sure" when that friend "jokingly" asked to join him in the shower (my gay friend chickened out).

Anyway, I'm just writing from my own experience, and I spent my late teens and twenties overwhelmingly with New Englanders.

I know a delicate, perhaps dainty young man. I thought he was gay, actually, for several months, until he introduced me to his girlfriend. Of course, that doesn’t mean he won’t come out eventually, but if he’s introducing me to a girlfriend, I’m going to attribute it to straighthood until I’m shown otherwise.

He’s almost from New England, the part of Westchester next to Fairfield.

They're called "liberal men" OP

R14 No, believe me he had multiple young women. They would come over, he would fuck them, and then they were gone.

There are plenty of liberal men who don't easily come off as gay, R19. I don't think that's what this is.

I had these two roommates in college, both of them very liberal (one of them a member of the college Democrats and the other a racial diversity organizer on campus). The three of us basically did everything together for a few years. Both identified as straight. Hormonal and ridiculous 19-year-old me decided to hit on both of them (separately).

The first guy, a Virginian, flirted a little with me at times, but it became pretty clear that he wasn't interested when I pushed things further one night. Interestingly, I don't think he had a girlfriend or even a hookup I knew about for the entire four years. Maybe he was asexual. I haven't talked to him much since graduation.

The second guy actually had a girlfriend for most of our sophomore and junior years, but he was a lot more..."gay-acting" than my other roommate. He did a lot of the things OP talks about. For instance, he'd always want me to massage him. One day, I decided to pull his shorts down during the massage (I swear I'm not niftying here). He didn't resist or say anything--just a tensing up and sharp intake of breath. I'd been lusting after his ass for almost a year at that point, so this moment is burned into my brain. I rubbed those beautiful milky white globes until he raised himself up and looked at me. We jacked each other off and I blew him. Strangely enough, the details I remember most clearly were that his nipples were as hard as granite the entire time and he had the fullest, most unruly bush I've ever seen (this was a WASPy, well-groomed guy above the waist).

Of course, our friendship unraveled after that. He insisted he was straight, even though he continued dropping hints in our increasingly strained conversations over the next year before we drifted apart completely. I think he ended up marrying the girlfriend he had back when all this happened.

He was from Connecticut.

So much machismo!

That video's exactly what I mean. It's a couple of gays chatting about their shirtless adventures, sassily chastising their critics in gay accents, and cattily rating the attractiveness of other men. Except they're straight.

Oh honey. Let me tell you about being a gay-acting straight guy.

r24 Who is that?

It's Jon Favreau, honey.

Are there two Jon Favreaus? (Favreaux?)

Yes, there's Jon Favreau the fat Hollywood director, and Jon Favreau the gay man trapped in a straight man's body.

There's this one Cash App ad on Lovett or Leave It where Jon Lovett's telling a story about being "at a bar with some gay people and two gay-seeming people" while PSA was on tour in Washington, D.C. Then you hear Jon Favreau and Tommy Vietor laughing in the background.

Also on Chelsea Handler's show she observes that their relationship is so close that it's gay, to which Favreau replies "it's SUPER gay."

They play it up, is what I'm saying. Gay-baiting is old hat even among older millennials.

Jon Favreau is soooooo cute.

He is yummy, R30.

So would I, R32. He always looks very clean, hale and hearty, not to mention sexy in a tight V-neck.

Major Gayface. Love it.

I guess I'll just continue the transformation of this thread into a shrine to the PSA guys....

straight men dont exist

While I do believe sexuality is a spectrum and more contextual than many people want to admit, I also think there are men who will never find men attractive and will never have a sexual experience with another man. (Just like there are gay men who have never and will never be sexually attracted to women.) Granted, that percentage of men is probably far less than the percentage who would say they're straight when asked.

Tommy is looking kind of eldergayish at R35. Must be the ultra-harsh lighting.

Too bad he's holding a towel, because those tight little shorts would show everything.

On the PSA Q&A today Tommy said that Jacob Wohl should be spanked for trying to set up Mayor Pete.

Reminds me of that tweet where Tommy took a picture of Lovett's ass and tagged it with a gay porn Twitter account. I bet Tommy has a curious, kinky side that he wants to explore.

Link, R40?

Here's more of avowed heterosexual Jon Favs (alongside staunch homosexual Jon Lovett) from this week's Q&A: