I believe MJ was guilty, and I totally believe James Safechuck and Jordan Chandler's accounts, But I think Wade Robson is lying at worse or exaggerating at best. There is something fishy and Fake about him.
I agree. He is looking for money and to raise his profile.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | March 28, 2019 4:29 PM |
If you believe James, MJ was molesting James before Wade came into the picture, right? So why did he get so involved with Wade and his family and spend so much time with Wade alone, given that he was a grown man who had already molested at least one boy? Or do you not believe Wade's stories about spending time alone with Jacko, etc.? I'm honestly just curious, not trolling.
I also think it's possible that Wade is telling the truth and also out for $$ and a higher profile. I'm in that camp.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | March 28, 2019 4:32 PM |
The parents all knew. I personally think that they all are lying. The Robsons and Safechucks. The families who got paid and signed NDAs are silent. These two families didn’t and now they regret it. Now they wanna get paid. Bottom feeders. I feel for them getting molested and all but they should have spoken up sooner. Their silence cost them money and also potentially allowed other boys to fall prey to Jackson. He bought the Safechucks a fucking house! In LA! Of course they aren’t going to squeal. At least, not while he was alive.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | March 28, 2019 4:33 PM |
You know what they say: opinions are just like assholes...
by Anonymous | reply 4 | March 28, 2019 4:36 PM |
OP=Too stupid to live.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | March 28, 2019 4:42 PM |
It's amazing to me how many people seem to think that speaking publicly about their sexual abuse by a celebrity is somehow the road to wealth and fame.
You bitches are missing out! Get your video tales of celebrity fingerbanging out on YouTube now! It's like winning the lottery! What are you waiting for?
by Anonymous | reply 6 | March 28, 2019 4:43 PM |
He could be telling the truth AND looking for a payday. And so what? After what happened to him as a little boy who had no one looking out for his well being, then I say he deserves it if that's what it takes to make him feel better. Yes, he does seem to be a little "off", but who wouldn't be after being molested by an adult, who was a hero in that child's eyes? I don't like Wade's personality, but that doesn't mean he's a liar.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | March 28, 2019 4:44 PM |
What R7 said.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | March 28, 2019 4:46 PM |
R5=crackhead JABBA, sucking on the pipe.
AGAIN
by Anonymous | reply 9 | March 28, 2019 4:48 PM |
OP is too stupid to live. Wade, James, Jordan, Gavin & the maid's son that was paid off are ALL telling the truth. Wade has been in therapy for over six years, which is why he is further along the path of healing than James.
I wish MJ fans would come out & say that they are happy to support a monster paedophile. It would at least be honest.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | March 28, 2019 4:52 PM |
Bankrupt the estate Wade & James!
by Anonymous | reply 11 | March 28, 2019 4:52 PM |
No, r9, I truly believe Wade is telling the truth. You're a fucking moron and denier.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | March 28, 2019 4:53 PM |
It's because he's a famewhore. Ever since he was a kid. That's the vibe you get. He probably is telling the truth. But he's wanted fame and attention ever since he was little. Ya'll saw how Michael had to pull his little ass off stage. Wade claims "he didn't know" the other kids were exiting as he was downstage in front. He was always thirsty and MJ knew it. That's why he treated Wade as last call.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | March 28, 2019 4:56 PM |
R2 Well, I don't know how to word this without sounding bad or sick but I think there are some some possibilities regarding Wade:
1) Michael may have molested him (I'm not minimizing it at all), but Wade is making up alot of the details, I don't think Wade was a favorite to MJ (like he's making it to be) as James or Bret or Jordan was.
2)Wade is lying regarding that he didn't know he was abused until his son was born and he defended MJ to save him, I think he got paid hush money all these years until MJ died .
3) When I saw the documentary, and the way Wade was detailing the sexual abuse (like a porn movie), I felt he's lying.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | March 28, 2019 5:00 PM |
Yes, I am sure he is lying. I mean, we know that MJ hung around this kid, let him sleep in the bed with him, made friends w the parents all bc he loves kids. Poor MJ. Robson is such a liar.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | March 28, 2019 5:03 PM |
R16 I'm Not saying "poor MJ" at all. I believe Michael was a pedophile, But I truly feel there is something off and fake about Wade, he's Not genuine like James or Jordan.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | March 28, 2019 5:05 PM |
Oh, and non-genuine people deserved to be raped!
by Anonymous | reply 18 | March 28, 2019 5:08 PM |
Also, I think James Safechuck's presence in the documentary gave it more authenticity. If it was Wade only and his family in LN. It wouldn't got the reaction it got.
Even MJ's family can't dispute what Jimmy said, They always talk about Wade and are silent about James.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | March 28, 2019 5:08 PM |
r7 is spot on.
I heard/ knew stuff back in the day.
MJ was raping children and everybody knew.
Ripping at the victims changes nothing.
Just stop.
He was a sick man preying on children an taking advantage of stupid and ambitious parents.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | March 28, 2019 5:10 PM |
Abused adults can act many different ways, obviously. I'm not sure you can call a little kid a famewhore though. That's on the parents.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | March 28, 2019 5:11 PM |
When you hear all the MJ defenders interviewed, they are stupid. Just plain stupid people. I am tired of stupid people and their stupid opinions. Everybody knew Michael was abusing boys; he basically admitted it on international television. Stop with your stupid posts, stupid people.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | March 28, 2019 5:11 PM |
R18 No,
I knew my words will come off as bad and sick, but I can't explain it any other way. I think Wade is exaggerating and making up alot of the stories/details. He may have been molested (and again I'm not minimizing that at all) but he's not truthful.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | March 28, 2019 5:12 PM |
R17, given that MJ spent an enormous amount of time and resources on Robson, chances are astronomical that, as a pedo, he molested Robson. Not sure where the fake part comes in.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | March 28, 2019 5:12 PM |
R24 As I said in R23 I think Wade is exaggerating and making up alot of the stories/details. He may have been molested (and again I'm not minimizing that at all) but he's not truthful.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | March 28, 2019 5:14 PM |
ok, R25, but what exactly would he be exaggerating about?
by Anonymous | reply 26 | March 28, 2019 5:15 PM |
Yes, r23 once again you are totally minimizing Wade's rape by also labeling him as a liar.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | March 28, 2019 5:16 PM |
I find Wade sexy as hell. Those hands are a real turn-on, too.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | March 28, 2019 5:18 PM |
He'd be sexy if he shaved off that stupid facial hair.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | March 28, 2019 5:20 PM |
He is a liar. I don't believe any of his rubbish!
by Anonymous | reply 30 | March 28, 2019 5:21 PM |
I have no doubt that Wade is telling the truth. I find it strange when people say they believe that MJ was a paedophile but not that he molested Wade. If a paedophile befriends a child within his preferred age range, does it really seem unlikely that he would abuse him? Also, if you believe Wade is lying, you have to believe that he either A) lied to his whole family as well, or B) his whole family are in on his plot to destroy MJ's legacy.
It's interesting that, because James seem more obviously traumatised, people are more willing to believe him. The reality is that people process things differently. In the documentary, James and Wade both say that they initially told MJ they didn't want to testify in 2005. MJ's response to Wade was sympathetic: "I know it's hard, but we can't let them beat us." His response when James told him exactly the same thing was completely different - he became aggressive and threatened to send his lawyers after him. It was only later on that he calmed down and tried a gentler tactic ("I'm sorry I haven't been there for you"). He was aware that Wade was more self-assured than James and wasn't going to risk angering him.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | March 28, 2019 5:24 PM |
R31 Very good answer. Thanks for All the other responses and perspectives too.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | March 28, 2019 5:29 PM |
Wade is super bright & he is doing the work. I find it so incredible that he has the courage to stand up against the mentally ill MJ fans. I'm a survivor of childhood sexual abuse and I really don't know if I could do it. The stans are really crazy. Like INSANE.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | March 28, 2019 5:38 PM |
R31 nailed it
by Anonymous | reply 34 | March 28, 2019 5:38 PM |
I think he exaggerated a bit, but I definitely think it happened. I believe him. I believe both victims.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | March 28, 2019 6:09 PM |
Wade and James are absolute heroes. Truly.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | March 28, 2019 7:18 PM |
There is no perfect survivor.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | March 28, 2019 7:27 PM |
Who are we to determine if Wade is truthful or not? Fuck MJ and the people supporting a pedo. I was sexually abused by my grandparents, as was my brother. We definitely processed the abuse in a variety of DIFFERENT ways. I believe Wade WAS abused and his child did bring his issues to the forefront. My brother had the same effect when he had children. Mr brother is more like James, and I am like Wade. There are no set guidelines on how each individual processes abuse. Even after we told of our abuse my aunt was adamant it did not happen. (Even after several family members have come forward). I can just imagine the enormous stress Wade is dealing with having millions of people judging his truth. Unless you walk in his shoes you have no way to judge his life.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | March 28, 2019 8:01 PM |
Why not give them both lie detector tests?
by Anonymous | reply 40 | March 28, 2019 8:14 PM |
Will MJ's wife Omer Bhatti ever come forward? His social media is basically copying MJ's entire persona. Super sad and well....pathetic.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | March 28, 2019 8:22 PM |
I believ he's a liar too! It wasn't MJ who raped him! It was Hillary! She raped him with her emails! In Bengazi! BENGAZI!!!
by Anonymous | reply 42 | March 28, 2019 8:28 PM |
People have been mad at me for the past month because I don't take a hard line when it comes to MJ. He might not have done it but he might have. It's believable either way. Wade may be a liar and an opportunist. And he may have been molested as a child. And if you were molested as a child, there's a chance you may grow up to be a fucked up person. Everything is possible.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | March 28, 2019 8:54 PM |
R43, who gives 2 fucks about your opinion?
by Anonymous | reply 44 | March 29, 2019 12:13 AM |
MJ diddled those boys and the family aided and abetted.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | March 29, 2019 12:18 AM |
Evident you do, JABBA/R44.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | March 29, 2019 12:19 AM |
People go on and on about Wade to deflect from the fact that Michael Jackson himself had no credibility on this issue. He spoke publicly many times about the rumors and his denials were not remotely believable.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | March 29, 2019 12:23 AM |
R44 isn't Jabba.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | March 29, 2019 12:24 AM |
Yeah it is.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | March 29, 2019 12:29 AM |
I was skeptical because of the way Wade and James have changed their stories over the years, but after watching the documentary, I believe them.
And agreed, R28, I find Wade sexy, too — and have noticed how he gestures with his hands A LOT!
by Anonymous | reply 50 | March 29, 2019 2:41 AM |
FF OP
by Anonymous | reply 51 | March 29, 2019 2:45 AM |
In fairness, R51, OP seems to be open to hearing other perspectives - he said so in his post at R32.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | March 29, 2019 2:56 AM |
They are FOS. Greed is not good.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | March 29, 2019 4:04 AM |
I've seen many comments on the internet saying that Safechuck somehow seems more believable but Wade appears shifty . I think some people have naturally more trustworthy demeanors while others appear dishonest even when they are telling the truth. I know because I am the latter and it's gotten me into trouble from time to time. Some people are simply awkward in front of the camera, or when talking about a uncomfortable subject. That's why I'm not a huge fan of these "body language experts " that make the rounds whenever there's some scandal in the news. I think Robson is telling the truth, but just doesn't have the stereotypically honest demeanor that Safechuck has.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | March 29, 2019 12:44 PM |
People arguing that these guys are just looking for a payout are as evil as the lawyers who defended MJ. Go fuck yourself. You do not understand abuse nor the true value of money (which inherently has none).
by Anonymous | reply 55 | March 29, 2019 12:49 PM |
Wade is telling the truth and James is telling the truth
by Anonymous | reply 56 | March 29, 2019 3:28 PM |
Wade burning the jacket ( and whatever else) was pretty telling. He could have sold whatever he had to a Jackson stan.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | March 29, 2019 4:19 PM |