She's had great work done

You can't have the name of Tina Louise's surgeon - he's hers and hers alone!

Linda Grey looks fantastic. Tina Louise, however, looks like Sue Ellen if she had kept hitting the bottle all these years, and had Southfork fall on her.

Jane and Lily, of course at 81 and 79.

This is what Katharine Ross should look like.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's see the hands.

But Katharine hasn't had any surgery R4. Damned if you do and damned if you don't around here.

Sharon Stone, hands down.

Off the radar for many DLers, but Kathryn Leigh Scott looks great at 76.

Jennifer Beals

Miss Linda Gray for L'Eggs pantyhose

[quote]Jennifer Beals

Jennifer Beals is biracial. She's also only 55. She won't need to have any work done until her 60s if she does even then.

Ask Angela Bassett at 60

R9 Yup, Kathryn Leigh Scott still looks great and fairly young. Here she is when she played the role of the perky Maggie Evans on Dark Shadows.

Raquel Welch is still a sexpot at 78!

People on here joke about her weight, but Susan Lucci looks great for being in her early 70s.

Ahem...I'm 65 bitches. And my body still is a close second to my face. I'm the whole package. I owe it to fruits and vegetables - seriously.

I wonder, not just with Susan R15, whether a lot of it has to do with having their makeup done professionally.

Christie and Susan = fabulous!

R17 A good, professional make-up job can remove years off your face for sure.

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She doesn't look good R20.

Angela Bassett is starting to fuck around more with her face since turning 60. She still looks good but at the Oscars she looked too "freshened up".

I think Linda Gray looks fantastic. If she's had work done (it's hard to tell) she obviously had minimal work done and her instructions were to not fuck around with her distinct features.

Jane and Lily look good but they look too smooth that you can tell they've had work done.

R1 On the flipside, I think Tina's Gillian Island co-star Dawn Wells looks great for 80. He's a pic of her from last week without being all made up.

I doubt she's had as much work done as most of the others mentioned in this thread.

I think people choose the best photo to post about these people. She's had quite a bit of work done R23.

Our favorite Susan Sarandon and Michelle Pfeiffer.

What happened to Looch selling that microdermabrasion tool she claimed was essential in keeping her "young" looks?

Michelle Pfeiffer did something to her lips, specifically her upper lip.

It looks weird.

Too many facelifts or an overly aggressive facelift, R27. The upward pulling motion of the lift, if done too aggressively or often, will pull and elongate the mouth causing the dreaded Joker Mouth.

It looks like all of her teeth are capped, that's gross.

Lee Purcell, who turns 72 in June.

^ Oh, I remember her in Stranger in Our House with Linda Blair!

Marie Osmond

Didn't know who she was R30. Former director of the NRA and a Scientologist.

Very few of those mentioned here have had good work done. Take away the mirage of wigs and shellacked makeup, you're left with women who look their chronological age. The exceptions are Sharon Stone. Sharon has great bone structure that deters sagging, and she doesn't resort to wigs or extension which is a telltale sign of old-lady-trying-to-look-young. Sharon likely had conservative eye lift and lower facelift (her jawline looks fantastic) and small amount of Botox (no frozen face and you can still see eye crinkles). I like how she's left her lips alone unlike so many of her colleagues at that age, and the fact that her trademark makeup is still clean, not heavy and overdone. Compared to the other ladies here, she looks very sleek and modern, which translated into youthful.

I thought that was Stockard Channing in R22's photo.

Sometimes the ridiculousness of some of these older celebs' plastic surgery adventures are indeed cringeworthy... But still, I'm glad for them that society today isn't the way it was decades before, when especially it seemed that older actresses were expected to dress, coif their hair, and carry themselves and the way they were made up according to some societal rigid requirements.

I look at these pics, then I think of iconic actresses from last century like Lucille Ball, Joan Crawford or Bette Davis--at the same ages as the worked-on actresses in this thread, Lucy, Joan and Bette at the same ages looked and dressed as if they could have all been their mothers!

Mamie VD

She looks like a caricature R36.

R37 She always has though.

Sharon really does look the best. Whatever she's done has been incredibly tasteful and she looks like a beautiful woman over 50. I'm not sure if Tippi Hedren ever had anything done, but she looks rather lovely and dignified. Eva Marie Saint, too.

Melanie Griffith and Meg Ryan are probably the greatest examples of what not to do to your face.

there have been so many of these threads that I am beginning to find it creepy that some of these people are older but don't look like it or half of their face looks like 30 and the other half looks like 60. Aging is a natural part of life and trying to hold on to the looks of youth seems almost pointless. The Only one I ever thought looked good and natural was Jane Fonda.

Dana Delany, age 63

Jane's earlier work was good R40. I don't think there is anything left to pull now. R41 Do you think Dana has had work?

Jane's face is so tightly pulled and her eyes so overdone that her bony face is accentuated and in fact actually ages her face.

I agree that Fonda went a bit too far.

Liz Hurley

Lynda Carter

Liz Hurley looks 53, not impressed, check back when she's in her 60s.

Are we posting about people that have had great plastic surgery or those that without plastic surgery look good? The lines are blurring.

Peggy Lipton is 72

Linda Grey had a book out a few years ago and my husband was running her book signing. She was so lovely and couldn’t have been nicer. Up close she’s had very little work done or really good. Her face moves and she has wrinkles but she looks easily 15 years younger. Whatever deal she made with the devil. She made a point to mention she’s always taken care of herself and her skin.

Judi Dench, 84 years young. Good work or good bones?

I wonder if one of the big reasons some of these women look great and have not chosen to have a lot of aggressive work done is that they aren't actively on the market for roles or husbands (new ones or to keep the old ones).

Fun fact: Linda Grey is Lindsey Wagner's aunt by marriage.

HM.

Sharon Stone and Jane Fonda own this thread.

Don't tell M I said this, but...

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Men always age better, r55.

She's had just the right amount of work. No funny stuff but he's definitely gone under the knife.

Jared tipped from success to spooky in about 2 years.

Are you serious R53?

Marisa's Joker Mouth

Amazing how the hands of time have been restrained by surgeons.

However, thinking of below the belt, can pussy be re-hydrated/rejuvenated or is it as dry as dust?

Joanna Lumley, 73

La Comtesse de Montgelas et Hermine de Clermont Tonnerre

Duchess of Alba at 88

Gwen Stefani: she looks like herself and much younger than 49. Skincare, genes, and sunscreen probably have a lot to do with it too.

Plus a lot of botox

Gloria Vanderbilt

Carla Bruni walked Dolce & Gabbana LAST September!

She had a refresh which was some kind trim but loosening. She looked fab at YSL also. She had been looking too stretched.

Joanna Lumely and Peggy Lipton are the luckiest bitches in the world! Both have always been gorgeous, both tall and quite biggish boned but photograph as svelte. Those really angular kind of faces clean up so well with a minimal amount surgery.

I think Gwen Stefani has looked monstrous for at least 15 years.

I was just gonna say Bruni was close to not good but she's pulled back. So to speak.

DL Fav Gong Li

Parker Posey = no lines.

Sean Young, not giving in a fuq, in The Alienist

Madonna. Her surgeon should be given a medal for making her look so youthful and stunning.

It's hard to believe someone so beautiful and youthful looking is 60!

The craggy Emperatrice looks better than the filler faced Queen.

Madonna seems to have irreparably ruined her lips.

Sharon Stone owns this thread.

R8 Zoom into Stone's neck in your pic.

Ewwww! WTF is that? It looks like a 200 year old woman's deformed labia.

It's either the face or the body, or worse, THE NECK!

[quote] Sharon likely had conservative eye lift and lower facelift (her jawline looks fantastic).

Croak. Look again Stone Stan's, look again.

I wouldn't say Sharon Stone looks that great anymore. You can see it especially well in the Film Independent Spirit Awards 2019 cold open video. There are other slightly younger old hags in the clip as well, and they actually look great. Marcia Gay Harden (59), Marisa Tomei (54) and Christina Ricci (only 39).

Madge

[quote] I like how she's left her lips alone unlike so many of her colleagues at that age

When will white women learn to stop pumping crap into their lips? It never works out.

Dana Delaney looked great on The L Word what, 10 years ago? Better than she looked on China Beach.

M is also aging very well.

R78 - The only good work done there is the person photo shopping that picture. Incredible work, considering the old hag the picture started with.

The Queen at 92; beautiful skin and twinkling eyes. I don't think she has had any work done.

Here’s M at I believe age 63. Face, neck and décolletage looking fresh as a daisy. And no sun damage!

Well we can't actually see that can we R89? Here is Meryl in a photo you can actually zoom in on.

Madonna wants so much to have the cult beauty thing going on around her, like Elizabeth Bathory. Her paid beauty companions seem to toil in so much pain for so little results.

Demi Moore

Valerie Bertenelli looks great, and I think she is close to Madonna's age. Who looks horrible. But she looked fanstasic in her 40s. Plastic surgery bought her an extra decade of superstardom but fucked her in the long run.

Paula Zahn looks great for her age as well. Judge Judy for being 80s looks good, she had subtle things done so she doesn't look elderly but she's not trying to look 35 either.

I can't think of very many other examples. Most famous women have too much done too soon and don't even look human anymore.

I'm an ex smoker and have smoker lines, which I would love to get rid of as they age me. Do those that get great plastic surgery only concentrate on an area that ages them?

Jane Fonda is not an example of nothing more than desperation. She looks brittle and scared. When she got a chin implant because they couldn't get her any tighter, she completely altered the integrity of her face. Her eyes haven't closed in years. Streep just looks frumpy and fat. Her own age and wrinkles. The fat helps. Fonda could look five years younger if she'd gain 10 lbs. But the crazy neurotic bulimic old bitch won't. Fonda will not live to be 90. Her body is a mess of problems you can't see and dementia has already taken hold.

Sharon Stone, Linda Grey, Peggy Lipton and Paula Abdul all look pretty and great.

Angela Bassett is disappointing. She looks so fucking plastic now. When your features are that even and perfect and you start yanking and plumping, cutting and filling, plastic is what you get.

Viola Davis on the other hand, looks the best she has in her whole life. Suddenly she's a younger Miss Ross.

Well?

Jane always looks so sad and strange.

Jane Fonda *is* an example of nothing more than desperation....

Oh, you guys, lay off Jane. Consider that she takes after her long-faced dad, so she's going to look like that. She can't help it.

There's a difference between looking younger with good e.g. conservative plastic surgery and looking surgical e.g. weird. The former looks natural to the eye and mind's perception to what a young-looking older person looks like. The latter even though there's no or little wrinkle and sagging, the overall look is unnatural to our eyes. Our eyes and minds can gauge an artificial face. In fact in the plastic surgery industry, we call this "surgical look" because it's very artificial looking.

^^^Meant to say Madonna looks very surgical even though she has little wrinkles and sagging, she looks odd, artificial, and different (you can't see her old face anymore) instead of young for her age. Michelle Pfeiffer is straddling the fence, one more procedure and she's on the Jane train to Horrorville. To reiterate, Sharon Stone looks natural and beautiful for her age, I'm not even a fan. Well, I am a fan of her decision to not go overboard like most of the cohorts in Hollywood.

Diane Sawyer!

Marlo looks good, much of the time, except for when she ODs on fillers, in which case it looks like she got caught halfway through eating a foam rubber seat cushion.

Of course, hardcore amongst DL apparently hate her, so it would be hard to get an objective consensus.

Sharon definitely wins this one, but I think Jane Fonda looks quite good, too.

Lesley Stahl

Jane Seymour

Marlo Thomas does NOT look good. She stuck her nose in a pencil sharpener and fucked up her eyes, her mouth..everything. Then that voice, like a wombed goose.

Gillian Anderson Monica Belluci Elle Macpherson Catherine Deneuve

Cher

Jane Seymour looks good

WTF is wrong with Madonna? How could she get a surgeon who did such shoddy work? I know she's cheap (especially in the last few years) but damn, you would think she would have got the best surgeon and best advice/recommendations.

Donna Miils, 78

No, just no. Young. overly sexy hair and two pounds of makeup doesn't make anyone look young. I swear I've seen Donna Mills in some granny gangbang porn.

Donna looks great, sorry.

Laraine Newman, 67.

Donna Mills is an old woman done up like someone 40 years younger, from 40 years ago. That garish makeup, the dated smoky eyes and red red lip. If you squint and it's raining and you don't know any real women, she could pass for a 70 years old hooker.

Whoever said Bellucci and Deneuve. I would add Huppert. I wonder if the techniques for face lifts are different/less invasive in Europe?

Peggy Lipton, 72.

Olivia de Havilland, 102.

Laraine looks awesome. If she's had work, I want the number of her surgeon.

Uncannily lifelike! You'd swear she was human!

So natural!

Maybe people hate Madonna so much that they deliberately gave her the contact info of the worst surgeon in Hollywood.

Gross, so artificially filled! Where the fuck is her real face and why does she think she looks good? Alien looking freak.

I thought that was Sarah Palin for a second, and got all scared.

Diane Sawyer and Martha Stewart look great. I hate to know what Jane Fonda spends on her appearance, I don't think she's ever been a happy or mentally healthy woman. Everyone says you cant do anything for the hands, which is true, but I was always surprised to see how youthful Joan Rivers hands were though. These people should aim to look good for their age instead of aiming to look young. I think the Queen, who you can safely safe would have had no work done and I bet she doesn't go overboard with skincare, looks great for 92. Her skin is so supple for her age and doesn't look like it has ever seen the sun. Not many men look good, hair loss and weight gain ages men. If a man can keep his weight down and keep his hair when he ages he will generally look good. At the end of the day, if you had the money, resources and time to spend on yourself that these women have, you're going to look a lot better than average people your age,

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I’ll care about Jane Fonda’s surgery when she apologizes for her treasonous acts during the Vietnam War. But probably not.

Fonda has apologized MANY times for her actions, and has met repeatedly with Vietnam War veterans to apologize.

Dana Delaney looks great - though she has had work done - she warns against Botox since she had a bad experience that left her with a slightly droopy eye, I believe.

But Madonna had work done in her 40s around the time of Confessions and she looked the best she ever has.

r67 Gwen has had a massive amount of surgery and dental work done over the years. She is hardly a natural beauty

Laraine Newman and Peggy Lipton look really great.

r127, Helen had a facelift right before, "Hitchcock". I've seen Sharon in person (this was about 10 years ago), and she does have great bones. Pfeiffer during , "Hairspray"- needed to gain 5 pounds, then she wouldn't need a lift.

I'll throw in JLo-she's 48:

I honestly think Sharon Osborne looks great, she admits to having everything done

Yes, Fonda did the wrong thing. But if you know anything about her she has apologised profusely and she works with vets trying to redeem herself and donates money to their causes. What she did was treasonous, yes, but I also think a lot of damaged and angry vets use her as a scapegoat for a war they shouldn't have had to fight, and as a scapegoat for their PTSD, and for the disgusting reception and ill treatment they received from the government when they got home. You don't see people pointing the finger at the politicians that sent them there, only Fonda. Fonda is no angel and seems to be a very selfish, shallow woman, but I just don't think she deserves all the anger projected at her. Some yes, of course, but not some of the vile things some people say. I also think it's a tad misogynist. Had a male actor done what she did people wouldn't condemn him like they do her. I'm not defending what she did, just think the hatred towards her is a bit misguided. A lot of vets who meet her with rage and disgust in their heart often leave with a differing opinion, my father being one of them.

[quote] I’ll care about Jane Fonda’s surgery when she apologizes for her treasonous acts during the Vietnam War. But probably not.

It's not that you wrote this, it's that you write this on every thread where Fonda is mentioned, even AFTER you have been told about Fonda's multiple apologies. Are you dense or just an asshole?

Fonda has done something majorly stupid each decade hasn't she? Whether it was a marriage, or political, or aerobics video, plastic surgery on her tits, her face... then apologizing years later. You can't say the woman hasn't continually evolved!

Nobody cares about Fonda. She likes to get coverage for any and all kind of reason. She's not a big star in the minds of us who are under 50. She made 3 good films, each quite boring and depressing now. Though she was neurotically, erotically interesting in them. She certainly was a uniquely attractive woman. Not quite beautiful but very sexy and pretty. A perfect body. Strained, unfunny, repressed. Faking it. She is vain and shallow. Her causes and husbands and reasons add up to not much at all. She's always explaining herself and if at 80 you don't know enough to shut up and laugh about things, then she'll die as unhappy as she looks. She is like a smarter Streisand. Miserable, difficult, vain and using the public for cash and therapy. A dilettante.

R139 I disagree with you on a couple things: "Nobody cares about Fonda." Jane Fonda does!

And I think Streisand is smarter. Not that it's much of a competition.

Back to the original topic - gets tricky when you have a twin, pictured here at 69 years young.

When is it that some women, when they get older, look hard.

Rene Russo.

"I’ll care about Jane Fonda’s surgery when she apologizes for her treasonous acts during the Vietnam War."

Maybe you should apologize for supporting the US getting involved in another country's civil war and pointlessly sacrificing the lives of thousands of people. Fuck you, Republican asswipe.

"Nobody cares about Fonda. She likes to get coverage for any and all kind of reason. She's not a big star in the minds of us who are under 50. She made 3 good films, each quite boring and depressing now. Though she was neurotically, erotically interesting in them. She certainly was a uniquely attractive woman. Not quite beautiful but very sexy and pretty. A perfect body. Strained, unfunny, repressed. Faking it. She is vain and shallow. Her causes and husbands and reasons add up to not much at all. She's always explaining herself and if at 80 you don't know enough to shut up and laugh about things, then she'll die as unhappy as she looks. She is like a smarter Streisand. Miserable, difficult, vain and using the public for cash and therapy. A dilettante."

You don't care about her.....but go on and on about her. You seem to know a lot about someone you don't care about.

R144, I'm not the Jane Fonda troll & am not a republican, but blaming Vietnam on republicans as you implicitly do is quite rich.

r145, it's Republicans who attack her.

I win.

I'm often mistaken for Barbra's prettier younger sister!

Susan Sarandon.

[Quote]Fonda has done something majorly stupid each decade hasn't she? Whether it was a marriage, or political, or aerobics video

Yes. She sold 17 million copies of her aerobic videos in one decade and these were just re-released on digital. She made millions of dollars off of these and continues to do so,

“Majorly stupid,” indeed. 🙄

Laraine Newman looks good but obviously surged.

Sarandon is a twat, but she does look great for 70 something

It's kind of surprising that Sharon Stone has had work done, given she had a stroke at 43. That would put me off going under!

This is Sharon's mom at 86 years old.

R153 She’s going to make a coat out if your puppies!

86? Holy shit, I need her doctor!

Megan Mullally, 60. Except her neck.

It is amazing what makeup and good lighting will do R155. Here she is in natural light and looks like an 86 year old.

"It's an 'Instagram filter,' Mama! Like foundation and powder, only it's on The Computer!"

Madonna is -of course- smoking a joint. She tries SO hard to stay relevant with young people. It is beyond embarrassing. I used to think she was so cool, but I guess she always was just a desperate, attention-whore poseur. Who posts pictures of themselves doing drugs except losers and 16 year olds? Especially when you have young children?

R152 She had a hemorrhagic stroke so major surgeries are contraindicated for her. That just is more remarkable that she looks so good with minor work done. It means the most invasive procedures that she's had done are probably minor ones like mini-lower-facelift which only takes about up to 5 days to recover. Botox eyelift is another easy, no-brainer procedure that does wonders for someone like Sharon who doesn't need much to begin with, like I say she has great bone structure that defies much sagging. Most importantly she looks beautiful in a natural way with wrinkles here and there, which is the opposite of Madonna.

P.S. I was a nursing student doing clinical hours at UCSF where Sharon was treated for her stroke. She was in the VIP suite.

Sharon Stone is really lovely to look at. But her speaking voice and demeanor do detract from the loveliness. She also looks like she birthed Amber Heard. Stone worked a long time and did who knows what to become successful. She's one who deserves the money she finally made. She seems like an A list high class jet setting fashionista Move STAR, when she's just a goofy crazy older woman who gets great free clothes and invited lots of places.

Not bad.

Not bad if you look like Pete Burns' older sister.

And the runner-up in the male category .......

Bernadette Peters looks fabulous for 71.

And Patti looks pretty good for 81.

WTF did Madonna do to her lips?

R167 Madonna had several facelift procedures, her mid-face appears to be pulled so much that her lips become deformed horizontally and downwards. That plus lip fillers give her face a very scary, nonhuman look. Don't even get me started on whoever over-injects her face, it's full of fillers maybe she has cheek implants too, looks very weird. Her upper facelift is very taut too, I suspect she has to keep using botox to bring her brows down in order to have that telltale surprised look when you're pulled too high and tight.

Holy crap - Linda Gray!

This was from 2018 but she's obviously had more procedures done in the year since.

You think, all that money and even she couldn't get it right R170.

Queen Noor, 67.

Jane Lynch is 58. Can the experts here tell if she had work done around the eyes?

There was some thread a long time ago R173 where someone said they had met her in person and that she looked older in person.

I saw her a couple of times in the street; one morning in Soho, and another time in East Village when she was walking down 2nd ave with her then wife, and but times I was afraid to look... I mean she is TALL and IMPOSING. I'm sure she's a nice person, though.

Can you read the LARGE words behind Jane Lynch in that photo R173? No. Gives you an idea of just how blurry it is. I love Jane Lynch. Nobody ever thinks of her as looking great or bad. She's Jane fucking Lynch. Very tall and thin with wide hips. Blonde sporty lesbian. Of course she has lots of wrinkles. She could play Martina Navratilova if Martina didn't do it so well herself.

*Hint to shut ins: every celebrity over 40 looks older in person.

Rupert Everett turned into Kevin Kline

Ann Blyth, 90.

She looks great

[quote] Can you read the LARGE words behind Jane Lynch in that photo [R173]? No. Gives you an idea of just how blurry it is.

Well, no, it just means that the photo was taken using a long lens, which has very shallow dept of field. Long lenses are used when taking photos of someone from a distance, like paps do.

And your point is what R180? Do long lens photographs provide a microscopic pore view of dental work? That Lynch photo tells no one anything about her "cosmetic" appearance. She's more in focus than the background, but it's from a long distance & not a remotely clear picture. You knew what I meant. If you're concerned that she had an eye job, then ok. Find a better representation.

[quote] And your point is what [R180]?

My point is that the large words behind Jane Lynch not being in focus has nothing to do with the focus on Jane Lynch.

[quote]Do long lens photographs provide a microscopic pore view of dental work?

When hirez closeups of celebs are taken, they are taken from a distance using extreme long lenses. So while you won't see "microscopic pore view of dental work", you can see skin pores.

[quote]You knew what I meant.

You were implying that the blurriness of " the LARGE words behind Jane Lynch" meant that the entire photo is blurry. No other way to read into this:

-- Can you read the LARGE words behind Jane Lynch in that photo [[R173]]? No. Gives you an idea of just how blurry it is.

[quote]If you're concerned that she had an eye job, then ok. Find a better representation.

Yes, I'm very concerned if Jane Lynch had an eye job. Who isn't?

You're that Erna weirdo aren't you R182? Y'all would know about deep focus lenses and peep photography. My bf says that he can smell you before he reads your posts. I'm sorry to engage you in any way. I've been warned. Take care of your "health."

You know, R183, I wasn't even snarky in my original post at R180 . So here it goes:

- Can you read the LARGE words behind Jane Lynch in that photo [[[R173]]]? No. Gives you an idea of just how blurry it is.

^^^ stupid^^^^

Huh? Nobody cares who you are. Take my advice for shut ins R184. Jane loves you, and yes she's had work done. Here is a close up.

- Can you read the LARGE words behind Jane Lynch in that photo [[[[R173]]]]? No. Gives you an idea of just how blurry it is.

^^^^stuuuupid^^^^^

Look, it's Jane. I can see her top stitching.

who the fuck cares what jane lynch has done to herself?

Joan Collins does NOT look very good these days, but she did, for a long time.

But I think that was a combination of a tiny bit of work, her wizardry with makeup and her wig game.

Joan Collins is a lot like Jane Lynch. Glamorous sexpots who understand their faces, do their own makeup and have a variety of wigs to cover minor surgical scars and more obvious tapes. Sequins and cleavage do the rest. I think Jane is older than Joan, but you can't really tell. She's recently had an eye job according to R173 and he's still going on about her looking blurry at R186? Regardless, Jackie Collins died of liposuction and both Joan and Jane claim to have had no surgery. Jane does look good for 88, but she's hardly famous enough to compare to Fonda and Joan Collins. Without her makeup, Joan looks her closer to her age, but she's never as slutty as Donna Mills.

[quote]Yes, I'm very concerned if Jane Lynch had an eye job. Who isn't?

I feel sorry for you R182. An obsession with Jane L. is kind of sad.

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Thank you for this thread, OP. I'm Linda Grey, and yes I look great at 78! Yay, I've achieved something in my life. God knows I was never going to get any acclaim for my acting, but at least I have this!

Nonsense, r193.

R193 Honey, if you're going to pretend to be someone, first order of business is to SPELL THEIR NAME CORRECTLY.

LOL

I'm not pretending to be anybody, r195, the sad truth is I'm simply too stupid to spell my own name. No one cares how it's spelled anyway, I mean most people have lives and couldn't give a shit about some old has-been tv actress. Most people, anyway.

Nigella Lawson - pictured here last year in a large, candid HD photo. She's 59 and looks great.

It's smoke and mirrors with Nigella. She uses tons of makeup and hair pieces.

Julia Louis Dreyfus, at 58, has the firm jaw line of a 28 year-old. She has had superb work done, but then she has more money than God, so she can afford it.

Seems like the hard part is finding a good surgeon to do the work.

It also has to do with good genes. Surgery can't reverse what you've got working against you, it can only improve so much until like Madonna, you go overboard and start looking like a desperate Pete Burns-like creature. But yeah, you have to choose a surgeon who is conservative and who is up on latest techniques. Those two factors are a must in a plastic surgeon. Next stage is to go over what would work/ won't work for your face because you don't want a cookie-cutter approach. Run away from the surgeon who promises more than he/ she can deliver, like I say, you can't change bone structures you can only improve on what you've got to work with.

Also good: Julianne Moore (58) and Isabelle Huppert (65): tight jaw lines, small procedure, and not too much filler work, so they avoid the "Muppet Janice" look.

Unfortunately R201 most all of the surgeons claim they can do everything. I want to go to the best lip lift surgeon and I want to go to the best neck lift surgeon. A lot of times they are not the same person.

Not an actress, but MSNBC anchor Chris Jansing is 62.

Jill Wine-Banks, MSNBC contributor, 75

R203 then you should look for facial plastic surgeons who specialize in each procedure. There isn't a rule that says you should only have one surgeon work on your face.

[quote]Joan Collins does NOT look very good these days, but she did, for a long time.

Same for Sophia Loren, bless her heart, but even at 84 she could look soooo much better without the Party City wig fashions and 1986 eyeglass frames.

R206 Duh. I have been looking around and have yet to find one that the majority of their surgeries are a neck lift or a lip lift. Rhinoplasty, breast enlargement and tummy tuck seem to be real popular procedures.

I really think you will get the face you deserve, plastic surgery or not, once you got older. Your inner beauty or ugly comes out in full force.

Collins has reached the stage when women who have had too much radical work done look as if their faces were covered in very thin parchment, stretched shinily over the skull.

R206 Are you dense? I said plastic surgeons that focus on the face, hence facial plastic surgeons. They concentrate on the face only and certainly don't do breast augs and tummy tucks. I can think of 3-4 here in SF who meet your criteria, go to any major cities and you'll find the same

Joan Collins looks great!

R211 read what you wrote at R206. There are some that are really good at rhinoplasty, for instance, but not great when it comes to the eyes. Your insinuation I don't live in a major city is laughable.

I don't think Joan Collins has had [italic]that[/italic] much work done. She's obviously had at least one facelift and probably a brow lift/eye job, but she doesn't have that waxy, pillowy, burn-victim look from endless Botox, fillers, and peels. Mostly she just trowels on the makeup.

R213 So the fuck what if a surgeon is good at rhinoplasties but not great with eye work? Like I say, go to specialists that do great work on eyes or lips or whatever the fuck you're interested in tweaking. Also I don't insinuate anything, I could give a flying fuck where you live. I was trying to give you advice before you turned bitchy queen for no reason. Go fuck yourself.

You're an asshole R215. I don't need your help.

I'm surprised Annette Bening hasn't had any work done. We become so use to seeing people that have had plastic surgery that we forget what a person of a certain ago looks like.

For those of us who are opera queens, America's Soprano Renee Fleming (60 this year) has had stellar work done.

I think it helps when you are not thin as a rail.

I think Sela Ward looks pretty much the same as she did 20 years ago. And I think she looks better with longer hair.

Joan Van Ark owns this thread! I also appreciate that she enjoys 'triggering' Dierdre Hall whenever she gets the chance

The title of the thread is "She's had great work done" R221.

Jessica Walter looks good for 78. She's wrinkly, of course, but she carries herself like a much younger woman. I recently saw her on the Seth Myers show and she was delightful. She looks better and more age appropriate than her PLAY MISTY FOR ME co-star, Donna Mills, also 78.

Sela looks good but she does look like she's been enhanced - it is noticeable.

I applaud Annette Bening for not succumbing to plastic surgery. I wonder what her reason is. Because she's had major crow's feet and laugh lines for years.

Cybill Shepherd looks fantastic. Minimal work, if any.

Goldie Hawn hasn't aged a bit. Again, minimal work if anything done.

I hope you are being sarcastic R225.

Linda Gray, when she was on Dallas, I thought she looked a little old and wouldn't age well... she sure showed us! She looks great, and the work is well done and natural. She looks better than when she was on the show.

Goldie Hawn? Ha ha ha! I've seen her up close, she looks her age, believe me.

Christie Brinkley.. but, she needs not to overdo it now.

Jaclyn Smith looked ageless for years, but now she's starting to get that Joker mouth from too many lifts, and the cheek fillers/implants are obvious. She doesn't look outright bad, but if she doesn't stop she's going to follow Madonna into Freakyland.

Apparently Angela Bassett had some work done.

I think Linda Gray was the leg model, for the poster of the movie, The Graduate.

Morgan Fairchild also looked great for years but eventually went overboard with the fillers and Botox.

Oh, Morgan, no, girl, no!

She's also gained a good bit of weight. Combined with the fillers, it almost looks like she's on Prednisone.

Linda is a natural beauty. A kind lady.

Many of these ladies have taped and cranked their faces up and hide it all under their ridiculous wigs.

Deborah Norville looks pretty good for 60 on Inside Edition.

Morgan looks like the future Paris Hilton

Wendie Malick...68?

Problem with too much and the wrong types of plastic surgeries and procedures is that they masculinize women's facial features while feminizing male features. Case in point Jaclyn Smith and Morgan Fairchild.

Morgan Fairchild has been pigified. She looks like Miss Piggy.

Alison Janney looks good for 60; sometimes she goes way overboard trying to be "glam" at awards shows, but underneath the full slap, the work is good and subtle.

Morgan should kill herself.

I saw Goldie Hawn about 2 years ago at a movie theater (with Kurt and possibly her son) and sorry to say, she looked very weather beaten. She has looked somewhat better in recent pictures but her face has suffered the effects of way too much time in the sun and all the lasering in the world won't bring it back when you're over 70 (73 I think she is). I've seen Goldie several times in my neighborhood (Santa Monica) over the years. The one thing I will say is she has amazing posture--like a ballet dancer. It's nice she and Kurt have had such longevity. He's 5 years younger than she is.

At least Goldie seems to enjoy herself and she was getting prime Kurt dick

Well, I'm not sure Morgan should kill herself.

Who are you, R244? Mrs. Patsy Ramsey?

Facelifts yes. Fillers no. It's pretty simple.

Goldie is a trained dancer. She had ASS back in the day. Looked great in tight levis and a tank top and the trademark long hair for a long time. But she's had plenty of work done in her fifties and sixties. Sun damage doesn't fully hit until you're about 50. She doesn't seem to care anymore - which is the best way to be. She and Kurt have a vacation home near me. They are fun fine people, still a little wild. Goldie's son has too much of an alcohol problem though. He's sexy and glib, flirts with everyone, including rocks. They're a sexually free bunch for sure. But Oliver but looks homeless and old.

I think the key to good face-work is maintaining some leanness in your face so you don't lose your cheekbones (e.g., Linda Gray, Isabelle Huppert, Jennifer Lopez, etc.).

I've been reading the best facelift is a deep-plane facelift. It involves tissue and muscles so the healing time is going to be longer, but the results are suppose to be outstanding.

Nancy Pelosi. I want the name of the doctor who does her face work.

Nancy's hair always looks pretty great.

Nancy Pelosi looks like origami.

I don't even think Nigella looks that bad at r198

Madame Speaker's face has that "shiny paper tissue" look of too much work over too many years. The skin is very, very thinly stretched out.

(But I love her, anyway).

That's kind of the thing. You should only do it once, if a all. A good facelift and careful eyework. Once. Somewhere between 55 and 60. Because no one ends up looking younger in the end. If Fonda and Cher and Dolly live long enough they will look like old chubby ladies who don't walk well. That's life. But a mid life pick me up is not a bad idea. It's the microscopic obsession mixed with ever changing technology that makes too much work too tempting.

People who say everyone should stay away from fillers are right about inflated cheeks and pillow face. But seemingly unaware how many "beauties" in their twenties, thirties and forties stay looking that way with fillers and botox. It just doesn't announce itself as much on younger skin.

I've read here about all kinds of peels, and procedures. The truth is that other than cutting and pulling things tight, most all other procedures offer temporary results. Nancy Pelosi's skin doesn't look a day younger than 78. But it's not sagging. Get a good facelift and whatever blepharoplasty you need, and skip the rest.

Fonda, Cher and Dolly are all over 70. That already is an old lady.

They didn't just start getting work done R258.

I had a blepharoplasty at 53 to eliminate headaches - which it did. Surgeon said he removed a quarter sized piece of skin from each eyelid. Really life changing.

R258 had a failed penis enlargement. Everyone knows how old Cher, Dolly and Fonda are. I get that they are old, and they look their age, minus 5 years. Facially distorted and hungry too.

Yeah, I'm sure you are 48, but look 38!

Joan Jett looks okay for the types of procedures she had. For some reason I think it works for her, maybe because she's such a badass.

Joan Jett is a hideous talent free mess. She has no hair...she left her wig in my friend's sink after a party, along with 2 used needles in the wastebasket. Not that long ago....I never heard of her. Regardless, she's a bad example of anything.

Wow R264, are you sure those needles were used by her? Damn...

In that pic above Ann Blyth looks like she swallowed a piano

Yes, R264. I don't think that people shooting up is unheard of at a warehouse party but there were only two bathrooms and one was designated for women. Joan Jett was in there a l o n g time, and left a wig and 2 used needles behind. A few girls were waiting to get in. She wears wigs and has her face pulled tight. It's unpredictable who the people are who go for the whole plastic freak show. Rock and roll is not anarchy when you have no talent. Stevie Nicks had great cosmetic work done - and IONS of talent.

Don't ever stand behind a junkie with money. They take their time. A good friend of mine loved to shoot up in the public library. Not that she didn't have her own place and car. She just liked to browse the library at her leisure.

Joan Jett is a junkie. With a lot of plastic surgery. This party was at Amsterdam and W126, about 4 years ago. It's not a big story to us. Just that she left her wig in the sink - what the fuck?

Susanna Hoffs is 60.

Looks great, obvious eyelift and mid-facelift/ lower facelift done very well. Though she shouldn't go higher with another eyelift, it's noticeable already.

Ann Curry looks natural and beautiful, great skin, she'll be 63 this year. I don't see obvious work that jumps out so if any it's minor and very conservative. She got wonderful bone structure, similar to Sharon Stone's this type just resist sagging. Plus Ann being half Asian (Japanese mom) works in her favor as far as looking younger than chronological age is concerned. I like that she too keeps makeup natural looking not caked on and her hair is her own not wigs or hairpieces that screams desperation.

Victoria Gunvalson

Hoffs does look great

Hoffs also looks "different", which is what good surgery shouldn't do to your face. You want to look younger like younger version of yourself, not different. She still looks good but definitely I think a procedure or two too far so that there's an unnatural overall look. She should stop now.

More photos of Ann. She looks cute with glasses.

Anne Curry's fat cheeks and fat (immovable )forehead are not a result of weight gain. Fillers and botox. She looks OK in that posed pic. She's smiling - with her teeth. She could have an eyelift and a lower face lift for her jowls. She doesn't have to but the fillers and botox are not a great choice without them. Because she hasn't fixed her "problems" and only a part of her face can now show expression. Too many people have become used to this. Forehead and brows and real upper cheeks are meant to move and show expression. When we were in high school psychology class we did experiments of covering up celebrities smiles to view the real expression in their eyes. A lot of glamour cover shots revealed some shockingly sad, troubled and unhealthy people. Now we would have to cover their eyes and brow. Not so much to read from a posed smile and chin.

Anne Curry at R274 looks lovely? She's got some warm brown eyes and nice lips trapped in that face.

R275 You obviously don't know what you're talking about, I've worked in plastic surgery and know surgeons. Curry is one of the celeb women that surgeons talk about for looking great whatever work she's had done. Contrast that with Hoffs with her obvious fillers and eyelift plus other procedures. If you didn't tell me that was Hoffs I wouldn't know it was her. That's what I mean about good surgery let's you have younger version of yourself as opposed to looking different.

Oh, so you're the one who's met everyone or used to work in a field or once had an in law who catered a celebrity party or stood behind someone at the stall R 276? So nice to encounter you. Y'all sure are ubiquitous. I can't speak about Suzanne Huff. I've never heard of her but I guess she is meaningful to old white gays?

Ann Curry I can see and I know. I am ethnic which means that means we have thicker skin and that's mostly good but different for surgeries. Why Angela Bassett looks so Android now is because she had her face and maybe muscles lifted^^^^. She is showing it off and she's was a hard edge haughty pretty to begin with so now she looks like a superhero gorgeous villain in search of more talent. Ann Curry looks like she's ready for the free skate.

Curry can't be anyone's poster girl. I didn't say she looked terrible, just no longer relatable. Too much botox and fillers is much more disfiguring to expression than a fucking facelift. So whoever Hoff is - if she really is 60 years old she looks fantastic. The more melanin we have, the more reason to forego fillers and botox that bunches up flesh. Get one damn good facelift and and the upper and/or lower eye done and be DONE. Otherwise you're doing something every 3 months and people do obviously lose track and perspective of their own fucking face. Ms. Curry has a bee stung face in search of expression. She is desperate to be on camera again. Most asian and black women look ok at 63 without injecting silicone into their minor hollows. She looks all blown up. Soledad O'brien does fine without a doll face or begging to be accepted. Allows her to speak the truth too. Ann Curry was a wimpy chick who couldn't even project her voice. I'm tough. She's cute but she looked prettier before. Nice enough, but not stable enough. Her face has begun a transformation that will not end well. I know what I know. I bow to your expertise R276, so I'm standing tall.

this is susanna hoff's insta, she posted a video, you can see her face better. I don't know what's she's done but it's not overboard and too puffy like so many celebs in her age group.

I can't be sure but I remember reading years and years ago that Sharon Stone said she had a face lift at 30.

rene russo?

^65.

R278 Susanna looks really good. She looks like she’s in her 40s.

R277 LOL You sound triggered for no reason. I'm half Asian so yeah I do know a little about ethnic aging and know a bit about people who like to assume everyone's ethnicity while blathering on about own "expertise". I worked s a RN in critical care, did some additional side work for plastic surgery practices on and off both in SF and LA for years, went. back to school and now work as DNP in psych. I know a little bit about plastic surgery and rejuvenation procedures from those experiences.

R282 Yes Hoffs looks great but she looks different now due to one or two too many procedures. She doesn't look overdone yet, but the threshold has been reached because she looks like another person.

I ain't triggered for no reason R283. You're a liar. And you're Asian now too? Hilarious. Good luck to you dude.

How tedious of you, R82. Are you 12?

R283 She looks similar to me, but I’m not that familiar with her.

Kelly Hu is still looking good at 51 (pictured here in December). Mostly down to genes in this case.

I've never seen (and I'm talking in person) anyone that looks particularly younger after plastic surgery. Yes, no wrinkles or bags but they still look their age.

I kept wondering when Peggy Lipton was going to age. Damn, she's looked fantastic since day one, and she still does. Linda Grey, yes. Judi Dench, yes. I love those dramatic kohl eyes on an older woman (when it's been applied correctly). And Dench's hairstyle is so flattering. Susan Lucci, yes. She could easily tip over into Italian peasant territory, but she hasn't yet. I'm not sure about Sharon Stone. I don't think she looks as good as other people think she does.

Jane Fonda looks amazing.

Dennis Quaid's lift looks good because he left his wrinkles. He still looks masculine.

So many classically handsome men (sorry, I realize this thread is about she's...) have had their eyes done, and it completely wrecks their faces. Robert Redford, Paul Newman, Michael Douglas, Al Pacino, Paul McCartney...the list goes on and on and IT NEVER LOOKS GOOD. Give me a sexy hooded eye every time, thank you very much Michael Caine.

Miss Ross arriving for her 75th birthday celebration a few days ago. She has none of that "pulled too-tight, stretched, filled, OBVIOUS" look typical of women who've had work done. I'm certain she's had surgery more than once, but her face still looks natural. Take note: Face lifts done RIGHT! Anyone know who her surgeon is?

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Miss Ross was never beautiful. The popped eyes for starters. The nasty personality didn't help. She did look great in those 60's clothes, though.

Nah, man. She was always quite, quite pretty. Feline-like sexy. Extremely attractive, expensive woman. What she wasn't? She just wasn't WHITE.

Diahann Carroll isn't white, and that woman is gorgeous. Nah, man. Miss Ross is unattractive. Sorry, she is.

Kristin Scott Thomas (59 this year) looks fab. All work (presumably on the tight jaw line) and styling looks tip-top.

Miss Ross is and always was a knockout. Diana. Men of my father's generation are still wild for Miss Ross. Charming, sexy, shiny and radiant. KNOCKOUT. The first thing anyone says about her is what a beauty she is. From long before I was born. Diahann Carroll had white lady face - she wasn't gorgeous. Just pretty little features.

Even Robert Shapiro and his wife said Diana looked like a nigger with out the fake hair and makeup.

Link R299.

R299 a racist said what? Or are you happy to use the n word?

Diana Ross is a black woman. She looks like a black woman. I don't know when she ever claimed to be white. Some find her beautiful. R299 is repulsive because there is nothing but racist hate intended in his post. Attribute the N word to Robert Shapiro if you like. There's nothing wrong with looking black. Diana Ross is a glamor girl but she's always been black. F&F the racist at R299.

R3, Tomlin looks TERRIBLE since she installed those rubber cheek implants.

Allison Janney needs some work R243. Heavy, baggy upper eyelids.

And I should know!

This thread is hilarious.

So many pics of celebs taken with a bounced flash that wipes out most lines and wrinkles. Get almost any of these people who are over 65-70 into the sun, or even a bright cloudy day and you'd run for the hills in shock.

Kudos though to Helen Mirren (r61) who's not afraid to show what's behind the curtain.

I met Cher last year, up close her work is amazing .she could easily pass for 50.

See if she'll meet you without the three coats of paint R306.

The standard for looking good while aging gracefully is basically not to look like you have 2 golf balls on your cheeks, dont look like you take prednisone, dont look like dr. Spock and dont look asian unless you are really asian.

R306 Does anything move on her face besides her mumbling lips?

Cher's always talked that way- watch an old Sonny and Cher show.

ONE MORE FACELIFT AND SHE'LL HAVE A BEARD!

Cher has an extra bottom lip though now. She had silicone gone wrong and about that she's fucked. They can't fix it anymore than she's already tried. It's quite noticeable. Mike Nichols used to tell an overly cloying actor with too much business going on, "You've wearing a hat on your hat." (Meryl)

Well Cher has a lip under her lip. She's not a good example of great work done. She would be a much better looking woman if she'd had nothing done. Not even her nose or teeth, ten times.

It's an implant that can't be removed. Cher should have quit after the braces and slight nose job. Her friend Loree got the same lips. Still looks damn good for coming up on 73.

R230, you have to admit overall that she looks pretty good considering she's 73, and at least hasn't turned into Kim Novak.

But she needs to stop posing like the First Whore.

R314 She’s airbrushed and painted for the 3rd balcony.

Kelly Hu looks amazing

Here's a picture of Tippi Hedren, her daughter, Melanie Griffith, and MG's daughters (Dakota Johnson and Stella Banderas). Tippi looks really good in the photo and Melanie looks pretty good as well. This photo is supposed to be from 2019.

Dakota definitely had a chin implant or something similar--she had a sort of jowly chin for her age (and for a movie star of her age). She got Don Johnson's chin. Her jawline is much smoother now. The three oldest in the picture have great jawlines now. I wonder who did them. I'm assuming Stella has her original face still.

All these women have shitloads of facial surgery, shitloads of liposuction (probably weekly like the girls in south America), tons of makeup, tons of drugs, etc. Nothing impressive when you have all the money in the world. I've seen videos where they turn old homeless men into beauty queens with just makeup.

Did Katherine Hepburn, Lauren Bacall, Audrey Hepburn, Ava Gardner or Bette Davis ever have anything done?

They are sort of my gold standards for women aging gracefully. I know some of them don't have a lot of fans here but I appreciate how they kept it together through poise, diction and fashion when they were older.

Peggy Lipton is goddamn amazing looking. And she has that Classic 40's Hollywood vibe.

Cher and her sister after her show tonight. in Vegas.

Face outta tune. ^ That Cher looks almost human. How much does she have to pay her sister and Paulette to follow her around and act interested? UGH. Cher said she was doing vocal warm ups earlier tonight. Who warms up to lip synch? She's a fraud.And that's not her face.

OMFG, Cher looks ghastly. The cheek implants, the wonky lips...how sad. She was beautiful. Now she looks like the victim of a violent crime.

her teeth is fake. Dentures probably.

Death Becomes Them.

She's gonna be 73. Doesn't look bad to me.

Ooooooh, no, R326. How can you say that? She looks terrible. I feel sorry for her, although she's crying all the way to the bank.

She looks better than Madonna, that's for sure.

Bette Davis had a radical facelift less than a decade or so before she died. It's most obvious in THE WHALES OF AUGUST.

Bacall must have had work, but it was good and gradual since there were no startling transformations.

R325 - Now that the "extra lower lip" has been pointed out upthread, I can't stop staring at it!

Enjoy R330! Poor Cher, she must hate having an obvious facial deformity. She was such an exotic beauty and now she's just a bit of a silly freak.

It makes me wonder what her plastic surgeon was thinking. I had silicone injected into my lips (yes, a truly stupid thing to do, but it was a loooong time ago), and my doctor would only inject a tiny bit at a time, and after several visits he refused to do any more. He said the silicone can travel within your body and end up in places it shouldn't, and that it can also cause bumps if it's injected unevenly. And I guess if you keep on injecting, you end up with the dreaded "three lips" disease.

The doctor's won't say "no" if there's enough cash changing hands, I guess.

Sorry, "doctors". I don't want the grammar police to bust me.

Only because I kind of do love her, I'm posting this. None of us can stay the same and Cher wanted to be more classically beautiful. For a time I guess she got there. But I thought she looked best before she touched a thing. Many many procedures ago.

A surgeon can fuck a person up, but “great work” is more than a skilled hand. People’s immune systems recover differently after being cut up and having acids and botulism squirted into skin and implanted into muscle tissue, fat sucked out with a vacuum, and then being sewn back together, and that is beyond the surgeon’s control. Implanting silicones and plastics triggers an autoimmune cascade disorder for some people whose bodies detect an invader and go haywire trying to kill the nonliving thing. (Have you ever had a splinter that “worked its way out” of your skin? That’s your body pushing it out because it doesn’t belong there. Some people’s bodies try to do that with breast, cheek, butt implants, etc., and some don’t.)

Facial structure also matters: the same doctor can do the same procedures on different faces and one can look like a former burn victim and the other like Jane Fonda because the procedures “settled” differently onto their different scaffoldings. Of course, the best surgeons understand this and adapt what they do to the different frameworks as best they can, but some aspects of how surgeries work out are beyond anyone’s control.

For example, my skin scars incredibly easily, probably because I have a mast cell disorder that makes even scratching my skin trigger localized and then bodywide inflammation. Inflammation is an immune system reaction and it interferes with healing. Some people may have different levels of this without knowing it and may end up more scarred than others.

My mother had to have a spinal surgery that involved removing two discs and bolting a titanium plate into her back. Not long thereafter she felt sick all the time—pain and nauseousness. Within five years she was miserable and within 10 years she had chronic diarrhea and was starving. We suspected she had an allergy to the titanium. We went to her doctor and astonishingly he kind of shrugged it off, saying yeah, probably, but too much time has passed to do anything about it since bone has grown around it and so you have to learn to live with it. She died two years later (one year ago) at only 67 from malnutrition that led to opportunistic normally minor infections—the official diagnosis was “likely Crohn’s disease or ulcerative colitis.” She never had an autoimmune illness, and we believe it was triggered by the surgery. Lots of people have the same surgery by the same doctor but her body absolutely rejected it and it cost her her life. This can happen when people get silicone globs inserted into their faces and their bodies freak out because those globs don’t belong there. It’s only the doctor’s fault because probably no doctor should be mutilating people with unnecessary surgeries for superficial reasons—but exceptional cases of individuals’ bodies not reacting well to the surgeries are not really the fault of a doctor in many cases.

Cher and her amazing wardrobe:

R334 It’s interesting how differently people see the same things. My mom always thought Cher in her natural form was stunningly gorgeous.

To me she looked like a pretty, much less homogenized woman with (currently un-PC, but...) more “ethnic”/less North/Western Euro features.

The Cher of my generation (“Believe”) looked “amazing” to me given that I knew her age. To my sister, Cher looked like a total freak, as did Joan Rivers and just about everyone with major facial surgery. We saw her in totally different ways.

One day probably five years ago I was watching the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and during a close up of one of the women, suddenly her lips looked grotesque to me and I kind of did a double take and blinked and like a magic trick in an instant instead of seeing someone who “looks ageless”—which is what I had seen before—this woman looked to me like someone who had been in an accident and had facial reconstruction. She looked like an accident or a burn victim. Then as more women were shown, almost all of them looked that way to me, with their puffy infectious looking faces, artificial teeth, weird little upturned button noses, protruding cheeks. Since that time I see people with these procedures the way I guess my sister always has. It’s so strange how that happened in one second.

I still tend to think women who have had a traditional, old-fashioned face lift look great. They look like themselves. But the squirting of a gallon of hyalauronic acid and botulism into people’s faces, and those terrifying duck lips, are just so fucking freaky to me. It never looks “young.” It looks like old ladies whose faces are infected.

Yes of course, Cher was originally more ethnic looking. And harmonious and sexy and shiny and soulful. Gorgeous.

One thing that makes Cher special is that (I think) like a lot of people, I like Cher a lot and I respect Cher and believe her to be an intelligent and bold person...and at the same time think pretty much all her music is fluffy, mindless drivel. The thing that makes her unique is that she knows it and actually feels the same way.

I admire her objectivity, too. She famously insulted Madonna by simply telling the truth: she said Madonna isn’t beautiful, isn’t a very good singer, is a terrible actor, has an intolerable, unkind personality—and yet is a superstar because of her charisma. And Cher admitted that Madonna outdoes her in several of these categories and is more creative, but that at least Cher is a decent person. Right on all counts.

That's why she was so effective as the mother in Mask, R339. Madonna couldn't have played that woman.

R340 Madonna has only successfully played versions of herself, in Desperately Seeking Susan, arguably in Evita, and according to some in Dick Tracy—that moll type of character has been one of her musical personae, as well. She was serviceable in A League of Their Own, but that role was emotionally flat.

Ironically, Cher's mother has always looked better, and had much better work done.

Yeah, Cher's mom is a dish. Kind of a Betty Buckley thing going on, only prettier.

I like Jane Fonda, and all this bullshit about "what she did in the Vietnam War" is complete bullshit. Complete bullshit peddled by the Right because Fonda is still an activist !!!

When the Vietnam War was raging, killing 58,000 American soldiers, with thousands more as permanently damaged casualties of that war, we had the Draft in this country. If you were lucky, a "fortunate son" you got out of it, like Bone Spurs or George Bush 43.

Bill Clinton protested the war. John Kerry, a verifiable war hero protested the war, Bobby Kennedy and Eugene McCarthy, and Senator Fulbright all protested the war. It was a bullshit war that the President had no authorization from Congress to prosecute, and which we ended up losing. Think about that: 58,000 men.

So you can sit here and ridicule "Hanoi Jane" all you want but she reflected her time. A lot of high profile people protested the war. Later, when those guys came home they were mistreated not only by the public, but by the fucking federal government.

Jane and a lot of others modified their criticism and she and a lot of others did a lot to change public opinion to becoming more supportive of the Vietnam veterans. She and a lot of others apologized NOT because they protested our policy, but they apologized to the veterans who were rightly acknowledged as victims of our bankrupt policy and the American war machine.

[quote]I had silicone injected into my lips (yes, a truly stupid thing to do, but it was a loooong time ago), and my doctor would only inject a tiny bit at a time, and after several visits he refused to do any more. He said the silicone can travel within your body and end up in places it shouldn't, and that it can also cause bumps if it's injected unevenly. And I guess if you keep on injecting, you end up with the dreaded "three lips" disease.

I hope you've had no complications and still look great R332. If you don't mind me asking, is there any special kind of protocol you follow to ensure the silicone does not migrate? I've heard as the look of really well done silicone is hard to recreate with any other fillers, so some surgeons still use high grade injectable medical silicone (silikon 1000) in augmenting lips.

Why did Madonna opt for the Tranny look?

^^ She was prolly thinking her skin was too thin and she was looking too gaunt and tired so she went way overboard to fill up the face.

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In her case R348 it wasn't because she had a bad reaction. The Dr. injected silicone where it wasn't suppose to be injected. That poor woman.

What I don't get is why Priscilla Presley, with all her money, would go to a charlatan to get industrial-grade silicon injected into her face.

I vaguely remember that R350. They were holding these parties, but not sure they knew it was silicone that was being injected into them. Lionel Richie's wife was involved and took a plea deal.

I've had a nose job. And it required two more to fix it. Not just like that either. Lots of research, consultations and lots of pain and breathing problems. For years. Though I wasn't exactly disfigured, things went wrong. I had grafts to correct it and then my body rejected my own tissue. Not right away of course. So I had fillers to correct the visual imperfections. I was very scared to do it but guess what, that actually worked. (Not silicone, I'll have to get them every 10 months, forever) But I still wish I had never had even the first procedure.

Some jawline surgery and UNDER eye skin removal is all I would ever consider now. ONCE. Not before I am 60.

Omg r352, so glad you’re ok! Please, no more, I don’t want you to tempt fate. I am sure you look lovely.

Your first nose job R352, was that cosmetic?

There's actually a condition called 'Empty Nose Syndrome' that can come as a result of even regular rhinoplasties, but typically happens after repeat procedures.

Poor Ann Miller not only had that, but also Empty Head Syndrome.

A lot of these women are all starting to resemble one another with those cheek fillers. They look like Cat Lady.

Kim Novack is the absolute worst. A monster.

It is unfortunate that ageing gracefully is no longer acceptable. I don't know what a 60 year old should look like because most of them have had plastic surgery.

J-Lo has had great work done...

Maybe we need to determine what great work is? It is strange because if someone ages naturally and looks real good we jump to the conclusion they have had plastic surgery, Wrinkles are not the only tell tale signs of aging.

Here’s Brigitte Bardot. Looks like no plastic surgery.

Diane Lane is 54. She is aging well. Here she is with her daughter.

If you can't save the face, save the animals.

Here is Diane Lane looking, her age, as opposed to R362's photo

I don't think she looks bad in that picture at all

Which picture R365?

I was talking about the pic at r364

Most women can hold it together until 60, if they are healthy and in shape. After that it's a fast decline.

R332 here, replying to R345, regarding the migration of silicone in the lips. No, R345, I did nothing to ensure it wouldn't travel to places it shouldn't, and so far I don't think it has because I've had no pain or discomfort anywhere. My blood tests always come back looking good, so my liver hasn't been affected. I may not experience this...I hope I don't. My doctor was top notch, and as I said before, he stopped at some mysterious point known only to him, and perhaps this is why I've been lucky so far. When I bump them too hard (I know, how do you bump a lip?) it hurts like I cannot believe, so I'm careful not to do that, but overall I've been pleased with the injections. I'll never have Russian whore lips, but they look much better than they did before the injections.

(I was on Accutane twice, and if THAT shit didn't kill me, then the silicone probably won't!)

Come far me one mar tahm, R355, and I'll hit ya with a POT!

How did Brigitte Bardot age so badly? It must be a combination of poor genes, abuse of something like alcohol or food and neglect.

what about the men?! John taylor (guy in tie) is 58, Simon le bon is 60! Stevie Nicks is 75 and Cheryl Crow is 57. the men had facelifts right?!

How is Victoria Principal holding up? Are were her tits real?

R373 They’re fake and they’re unspectacular.

Brigitte Bardot is a homophobic twat who got the face she deserved

Stevie Nicks is 70 R372

Janet Jackson was also the event, rock and roll hall of fame induction just a few days ago, and she could not move her face, only her lips moved. She was on insta stories.

Rush!

Fat grafting is the worst. I'm convinced Heather Locklear went cuckoo because her fat transfer all settled in her mid and lower face.

I don't think men can carry off cosmetic surgery. Has Tom Hanks had work done? If so, just a lift. He looks old but he looks like himself. I can't decide if he's lucky or just very selective.

Hanks neck is really aging him and the bags under his eyes. He is only 62, yet looks late 60's.

Yes Tom Hanks is decidedly less jowly and baggy under the eyes. He became diabetic, lost the weight and had a lower face and possible brow lift. A very light touch. His wife also looks completely natural but there's no way that nothing has been done to lovely Rita. I applaud all the people who forgo botox and fillers. Just a little tug and snip keeps your own features intact and picks up the slack. They don't look younger, just more the way we wish we would age.

Freaks like Dolly, Cher, Jane and Real Housewives and others are trying not to age at all. And of course it is a desperate losing battle that leaves them looking puffy with intestines for lips and crooked eyes and overly large teeth and no eyelids and sometimes three lips.

I laugh my ass off at Madonna's social media postings of herself.

Kelly Ripa is 48 (not old yet) and looks good, IMO. She never caved in & got breast implants. She had kids and stayed lean. Over all, looks really good for her age.

R371.. She's a smoker, too.

R357... It's sad to say, but she almost looks like the movie, "Mask"...fillers way overdone.

Reba McEntire looks good.

Kevin Costner is a smoker R383 and has terrible wrinkles from it.

I was watching SANTA CLARITA DIET last night and there are some close ups of Drew Barrymore (44) and Timothy Olyphant (50) where I was distracted by the deep, deep wrinkles, especially in their foreheads. Smoking? Genes? Sun? I am 51, and I have two faint lines on my forehead and some tiny crow's feet. I don't mind them. I was a smoker for 20+ years, but I never was big on suntanning. My dad worked outside most of his life, but doesn't have a lot of wrinkles for 77, so I guess it is also my genes. I do however have droopier eyelids now, which I don't love, or the way my under eye area is developing.

Drew and Timothy still look good though, even with wrinkles. Drew is still cute..hope she doesn't ruin herself with bad plastic surgery.

I'm not getting an eyelift or fillers, R388. I'm looking "rugged" and Old School Aging Hunk.

Andie MacDowell or is she too young?

Is she wrinkled? I hadn't noticed.

I think Drew Barrymore has never really stopped drinking. It probably takes a physical toll when you've been drinking from such an early age.

Simon Le Bon looks good, but John Taylor has that "men who look like old lesbians" thing going on. Men who get face work have to be conservative or it feminizes them.

Drew Barrymore: The Original Party Animal

Seriously, r388? I think he still looks hot there.

Here he is in 3 Days To Kill R396. He might have had work done after the movie, but in the movie he looked like shit.

Costner is very wrinkled and gray and has a turkey neck and he's still sexy as fuck. Handsome is handsome. He's looked this way for a while now, he's 64. Good for him for keeping his confidence and becoming a better actor with age.

Reba McIntyre looks like the Joker.

R398 has he become a better actor? I haven’t seen much if any of his recent work.

That would be great if true...

Met Linda Gray twice. A gorgeous person. I mean, she is Sue Ellen..that was as big as it got in oir house growing up. She told me i was very handsome (as did Helen mirren...women of a certain age Love me...lol). But linda was so vibrant...not a bit like her age. I eish she was on tv more. A diwn to earth fun lady. Larry hagman was with her thec2nd time...such a fun character..loved playing up the JR bit. And linda looked wonderful. This was 8 yrs ago.

Mother...hello.

Kylie minogue is simply preserving her looks now for years. Fabulous. Even up close when i met her.

Between Season 1 and Season 3 of Roseanne, she got a lot done and never even looked remotely fake. The work improved her looks and even held up over time. It appears she had an upper bleph (eyes), a lower facelift, chin lipo, and buccal fat pad removal. Possibly a neck lift.

Her original face:

Then 3 years later.

Roseanne is batsh*t crazy, obviously... but she's had really good face-work.

So true, R404....I've always been impressed with Roseanne's facial plastic surgery, esp her eye work.

R372...Simon Le Bon looks INCREDIBLE!! The "fat" looks good on that handsome face. Wow.

Am I the only one who doesn't think Simon Le Bon looks great? His face is really bottom heavy and it looks inelegant.

Ripa is too thin, her arms and chest look scary in that pic

If you watch Nurse Jackie, Edie Falco comes back 5 years younger somewhere around season 5 or 6. She was only in her late 40s but she was aging fast back then, and that short haircut didn't help with the overall look. I think it was all fillers and botox (she had that filler look) but it was pretty good, for non-invasive work at least. Often times, fillers just look odd - but she truly lost her facial fat so it actually helped. I wish I had pics but it's too subtle for people to have been talking about online. It's noticeable if you binge the show - not if you wait 4 months between seasons. So I doubt people noticed in the original run.

Courtney Thorne Smith's face is now completely frozen.

Ann Wilson of Heart fame is 69 years old. She smoked in the 70s and did a decent amount of coke in the eighties, plus had an issue with alcohol up until around 2010. She also gained, lost and regained weight relentlessly over the years. I think her surgeon did an outstanding job. She initially had that surprised look but as it has settled she looks great.

Susan sarandon looks absolutely amazing, I think she openly discussed having her jaw line fixed.

R412, Ann Wilson looks good, but she looks like a different woman now (judging by the photo you posted). Looks like she got her weight down as well. A little extra fat on the face helps, too.

I don't know what the fuck Simon le bon did be he does not look 60. He is a bit pudgy and has double chin in the past from being a bit heavy...maybe he had neck lipo not sure but he looks younger than John Taylor who is 58! Maybe it's his thick hair.

There was that one season where Roseanne looked like a witch. She also got a terrible tan. She looked like shit and while the show was still great, her face was distracting.

But everything settled and indeed, she looked good.

Roseanne had the best results with cheek implants that I've ever seen. Her nose job was also great. When you have a round fat face these were excellent decisions. Still she didn't later go for botox and fillers and she never blew her lips up. She gave herself a much more attractive appearance when she was relatively young, then left it alone. She looks great IMO. Chasing youth is where everyone goes wrong. Roseanne didn't do that, but she is an unusual case.

She may be nuts, but Roseanne is the best transformation I've ever seen.

R416 I think that was the 93-94 season. The tan was heavy makeup they put on her because she had a facelift that summer and the surgeon left either a tool or sponge in her face and they and to operate again to remove it. She came back swollen and bruised and they had to cover it up.

I saw Roseanne on tour before she and her show imploded. She looked good but either she lost weight in her face or the cheek implants have become more pronounced or noticeable in her later years.

R277 you sound very knowledgeable about these things. As a black man as well, if I wanted to get my nose done, what would you recommend so I don't have to go through multiple surgeries to get it right ala Michael Jackson or the other poster above.

Michelle “I’ve never had any work done” Pfeiffer owns this thread

oh my, check out the video of Dr Oz. he had some major work done. please feel free to criticize...

Those eyebrows... wtf. They weren't even that low before.

Dr. Oz has looked like shit (for his age) for about a decade. Needs to stop drinking that boxed wine.

Those pulled brows are HILARIOUS! He looks like a character on Star Trek...the one with the big foreheads.

Here's a photoshopped pic of Oz from probably 5-10 years ago. Normal looking eyebrows, deep bags under his eyes 'shopped' out...

If he can't find a good plastic surgeon what hope is there for the rest of us R423?

Eva Marie Saint at 93. This is aging gracefully to the nth degree.

Thank you, thank you R423 for the Dr. Oz brow lift update! This is a gift basket to many of us. Dude is always pushing natural food and vitamin prevention for the deadliest diseases of life! And then he goes on camera with his brows reaching for Mecca. A drag queen should have glued those down and painted in some more natural ones for him while his face settled. I'm shocked by him, because like many people who are heart healthy obsessed, he has always looked too thin and older than his age. Ok, OZ. You're a respected cardiothoracic surgeon, a promoter of pseudoscience, a supplements pusher with strange groupies. But this face lift is too much for Columbia University. Hilarious. Fill in those healthy crevices and get a butt implant next Dr. Oz wizard.

How the fuck did he appear on color TV looking like that? He has three daughters and many wives to advise him. All out shopping, no doubt.

Allison Janney, mentioned earlier, could USE a good nip and tuck. She looks at least 7years older than her age, and that's with really good lighting and a lot of makeup...

Dr. Oz is a she?!

The eyebrows have a certain Divine insouciance.

Those brows are complete and utter nonsense. He looks like a psycho clown. OMFG. Divine insouciance is perfection, by the way, R432.

She might be a phony twat, but Lori Loughlin looks really good for 54

R429 - "brows reaching for Mecca"! LMAO!!

Iman looks great

puffy face. looks like fresh work

Seeing Emilio's neck 'work' we feel a little better now.

Is Linda Hamilton typical of a 62 year old woman that hasn't had any work done?

I was going to ask if Hamilton is a smoker, because of the deep lines on her face, then I saw this:

I wonder how Linda's twin has fared.

That's pretty average, R439.

Linda looks like a 62 year old who smokes and probably tanned a good deal in her youth. She doesn't look youthful, but she also doesn't look freakish and I'll take that any day over some alien looking creature with no lines, puffy lips, huge cheeks, and eyebrows up to their hairline.

I also thought Jamie Lee Curtis looked refreshingly real in that new Halloween. I do believe she talked about having her under eye bags worked on in the 80's or 90's, though. Maybe that helped a bit.

No one did Jamie Lee Curtis any favors with the makeup and hairstyle for the Golden Globes. She looks her best with minimal makeup.

I don't think Cher is even aiming to look natural, I think she's content looking like a caricature. I don't think she pretends to look anything else. Lauren Bacall had a facelift and eyelift late 80's, it was good work but then it sagged. In the miniseries she did about Doris Duke she is playing the elderly sick Duke with minimal makeup and it's not pretty, what look like skin tags/facelift scars under her eyes across the top of her cheeks, and extensive scaring around the front of the ears...Doris Duke had lots of work done so I guess it fit the role.

Cher gave up the option to look natural more than 20 years ago. So she rolls with a third lip R445? If she was content to look any particular way, she might stop going for more alterations. Not buying it.

Joan Van Ark

How come nobody here mentioned how great Bette Midler looks? The work she had done was top notch.

Without a wig and makeup, Bette looks like a hag.

Nah R449. That's not true. Bette has her own hair and very good work done indeed. On the streets and in the library she doesn't wear makeup or glam up - but she still looks good. She's a great example of good work done. There's nothing wrong with wigs on old hags, but that's the last thing Bette needs. She has great hair. Not unlike Roseanne, Bette is much prettier as an older woman. With a little help.

R447 - The whitewashing on that photo is making me LOL!

Cindy Sherman has lost a lot of wrinkles since last year, but she still looks like herself. She's 65. (click on image to enlarge)

Jeff Bezos had a very good facelift recently.

Most people did not notice because the change was very subtle and the work was excellent. We are searching for photos that show the barely noticeable scars but they have been 'cleansed' from the internet.

Does anyone know the name of the surgeon?

Sherrell Aston, possibly.

R267 You keep posting this story. Did it really happen? What did Joan look like without it?

Not everyone who walks into Sherrell Aston's office walks out alive!

Shirley Jones is 85. She is the poster girl for ageing gracefully.

Jacqueline Bisset at 74 also looks great and not overly worked on.

I use to think Dana Delany was aging gracefully, but now I'm convinced she has had work.

Why are the necks always so awful looking? Why is it so difficult to do the neck right?

Cicely Tyson last year in 2018. Then age, 93.

Age 94

Shirley Jones looks like her ex Jack Cassidy in that picture. She did have her gash tightened.

Paloma Picasso will be 70 this month.

Cindy Sherman looks good

Suze Orman is 65 in this video. I'm guessing there was facelift somewhere along the line given how her skin isn't sagging anywhere really. The veneers are pretty bright. She looks pretty good for 65 whatever she did.

I remember when Jaqueline Bisset was on Nip/Tuck and they used this ridiculous blur filter on her face after she'd had work done. It looked weird. They did the same thing. I'm convinced that's why Nip/Tuck has never had an HD release. It'd be even more noticeable there. But she looks awesome with out without the filter.

R460 - It's so true! That's always the giveaway and it kinda ruins the look in my opinion.

The surgeon who makes serious strides in the area of "neck work" will be a fucking overnight billionaire.

Grace Jones is 70 and looks amazing.

I don't think Stevie looks great anymore. Clearly she's chosen her face over her fanny, and I know she's old, but she's too big. Her features are so delicate that a fat face overwhelms them. She looks like every other rich, pampered, SoCal socialite now. She's always been pampered, though, so...

Stevie might be chunky but I think her face looks good

I don't think women "choose" their faces over their asses. I think their weight just gets somewhat out of control. If Stevie Nicks could go back to having a waif figure, I think she would.

Stevie Nicks looks great. I always thought she, Linda Blair, and Amy Schumer could be related somehow.

I think they do, R472. It's true that after a certain age a woman must choose between her face or her fanny. It's a French thing.

After a certain age one usually has the choice to look either old or strange.

70 is the new 50!

Has Laura Linney had work? She looks pretty damn fresh for 55.

Linney looks great. If she had work, it's good work.

Brooke Shields is ageing gracefully. So glad she's not puffed up and overly worked. She seems happy and sane.

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Meg Ryan has looked terrible for the last 10 years or so

Megan Mullally is 59 and looks fantastic. It's hard to believe that Nick Offerman is actually 12 years younger than her - I assumed it was the opposite looking at them together.

Dana looks like a 63 year old R481. I always thought she didn't have work done, but after viewing recent photos and her new CBS series it is evident she has had extensive work done.

Mullally looks great on the new season of Will and Grace

This is Khloe kardashian's new face. She's completely unrecognizable on the show...it's not just an instagram filter. I was flipping through the channels and had no idea who that was - until I realized it was her voice. She had her whole chin and jawline contoured and a nose job - at the very least. She probably had a neck lift and chin lipo too. Even though it has that Kardashian artifial look, it's a major improvement from her Rumor Willis jaw/chin.

Old nose, chin, eyebrows, etc...

DL does not care about Kardashian trash.

I know they're her trademark, but I think Brooke Shields would look better if she tweezed off about 2 millimeters of eyebrow hair (under side of eyebrows). That would open up some space between her eyebrows and her eyes. I think her eyes would pop (in a good way) more if she tweezed some hairs. Instant, non-surgical eye lift.

Khloe used to look like Elvis Presley. Now she looks like every other chick in L.A.

The whole family looks plastic R490.

Khole hardly looks like OJ now.

*Khloe

Annette Bening is featured in unretouched closeup in this week's NEW YORK magazine. She hasn't had any work done that my expert eye discerns, and she is absolutely beautiful.

I like that she has aged naturally R494

Even at 55 Annette had a lot of wrinkles. Is she a smoker? I admire her for not going under the knife.

I love Annette so much. I need to purchase that film based in San Fran in the 70's that she FUCKING RULED in!!!

Love her so much. And she was wonderful as Gloria Grahame.

Wonderful actress who has not gotten her due.

This is totally off topic but could somebody please tell Judy Collins to get a new wig???

R498 Is she bald? Thinning?

Jutie is ballded??

Let me google Miss Jutie for verifcata!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Holy shit. This looks a still from a comedy sketch.

OH MY GOD R501!!!!!!

I am drunk, Is this real!!!!???

The 80s outfit is odd... but otherwise she looks fine and sounds lovely in this clip from a March 2019 performance.

Here's the vid.

It wouldn't surprise if she's been fighting health problems.

R505- I am getting massive cancer vibes now.

That is some set of wigs!!!!

Love her voice. Those videos scream "Big disease!!!"

God bless her. Love Judy Collins

Wow, Suite Judy Blue Eyes - she ain't anymore

I wonder if she is sick...then I might feel guilty for laughing out loud

I kind of wonder if she made some hair and makeup gays really angry?

Judy will be 80-years-old in two weeks. I'm giving her some slack.

Cancer or no cancer, was there no friend around to say let's look at some more wigs first??

That wig looks like it was ripped off a mannequin at Kohl's.

Baby Jane Hudson is never the look to go for, Judy

Judy's wigs look like they were found by Judy's assistants strewn along the ground where Little House on the Prairie filmed in Simi Valley, CA.

Jesus Christ!!!!

Annette Bening looks HAAAARRIBLE!!!

She looks like a lot of women that have not had work done and are aging naturally r513

She's never been a stunning beauty, though, so there wasn't much to salvage.

When did Judy Collins become Mae West?

The pic of Judy makes me think of Angelica Huston in The Witches - like she’s ready to lose her human guise at any minute.

Not a she, but whatever Sting has done looks great. Just caught him on Fallon.

Yes, Sting looks amazing but I don't think he's had anything done, nothing major that I could see. He has been doing yoga for years and eats healthy. Too bad can't say the same about the wife.

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R518 Just seems like a good tan, and staying trim helps him. What also helps is that he's always had crows feet since the days of The Police. He did have his nose done in the 80s, but he claims it was to help his breathing and singing.

I've seen Sting promotion various things on TV for past few years and I've always remarked to my partner that he looks amazing. English people aren't known for aging well. He's looks healthy and very good for his age. I know that he grows the food he eats in his huge estate in England near Stonehenge

*promoting

Fat Stevie.

I kind of like Judy Collins’s appearance. It’s strange for sure, but I like that she has aged naturally and there’s something punkish about being an old person in a cheap little-girl wig. It could be a sign of dementia a la Baby Jane, or else it could just be a “fuck you; I like it and I’m wearing it because I am still fun!” It all comes down to attitude. Her wigs aren’t very different than Dolly Parton’s; the only real difference is that Dolly’s artificial looking from head to toe and so there’s no shocking dichotomy between old lady face and little-girl wig.

Old people who have a sense of humor about their appearances and malfunctions win my heart. You can choose to resent all the changes and suffer, to try to battle them and end up ceaselessly frustrated, or to just laugh as the car you’re riding in starts to fall apart.

R487 Khole's surgeon deserves a Nobel Prize for scientific advancement for straightening out that face.

I much preferred Khloe K’s real face. I admit I watched probably half a season of the family’s E! show when it was new and she was the only one I could stand. The rest were all prissy, snooty glamour pusses and she was this big lumbering giant who seemed to have her head on straight and who was a comedian and also a Greek chorus saying what the audience was thinking about her dumbass sisters. I am sad to see that she had her bone chiseled down to make her look like a generic Hollywood starlet.

R525- Your attempt to defend that old white skunk laying on top of Ms. Collin's noggin was GLORIOUS!!!!

You sound sweet, but HUNTY!!! WHAT DA FUCK!!!!!!????

R528 Yep! Punk! I don’t know what her intention is, but in my mind being a wrinkly old person in sassy costume and a youthful wig could be a very punk thing to do. Bodies get old but sensibilities don’t have to.

I agree with everything that you said!!

But that wig!!!! I will see it as a punk/Judy's fuck you to the world-

Don't know what if anything she's had done, but Alana Stewart (ex of Rod, and of George Hamilton) is still a looker at, what, 72? I searched for an ugly picture and really couldn't find one. This is from 2015.

Kin Zolciak looks like a one hundred percent plastic Barbie, which I don’t like, and yet...it’s hard to say it’s not an improvement...

R532, If it wasn't for the lips, I would say AMAZING work. (And it really was/is)

Madonna...flawless.

I can't believe Sting looks like that naturally at 67.

R532 totally disagree, and that nose job is horrendous. What’s with the tip? It was better before which says a lot!

R536, BITCH- c'mon. Kimmy looks HAWT minus those PIG LIPS!!!

Nanette Fabray OWN(ED) this thread. Here she is at age 84.

Kim Zolciak looks odd. If you want to talk about housewives, Ramona Singer looks good, I think. It's easier to see on TV. Every static pic I find doesn't quite capture it (she looks too plastic in some of the pics) but she looks great on tv.

This one seems more recent and she looks how she does in recent interviews. She's 62... and the 3rd from the left if you don't know the housewives.

NY women usually look better than LA. I remember them saying that about the east coast soap actresses as well.

Better surgeons on the East coast, R540? Or something else?

R199, a LOT of 58 year olds have good jawlines, without surgery. I doubt Julia has had more than minimal work done.

I don't know any 58-year-olds who still have great jawlines.

Maybe the aging NY women look better than aging LA women because there's less exposure to sun, less tanning.

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Jeri Ryan

Mary Steenburgen is unrecognizable...

Really? I think she looks the same

Get your prescription checked R548. Here she is from 2002...

She looks a little "refreshed" but I'm not seeing a HUGE difference

Marie hiking with Kevin.

NY surgeons/derms are known to be a little more conservative than LA.

She's THE nicest lady.

I highly recommend her memoir

Rita Moreno, an 87-years young marvel

Why doesn't she cover that horrible neck?

Whoever is keeping Sela Ward looking the way she does, deserves every prize in the field of cosmetic surgery.

R553- AGREED 100%. The book was a breezy read.

Ms. Gray is a lovely woman- and a very grateful and kind human being. She looks fucking AMAZING.