Maya Angelou’s world class cunting is setting Black Twitter on fire today

She was right, every word.

Basic manners.

I once worked at a place where she was speaking. I heard at work that Maya made the most ridiculous demands. For instance only a very small number of people were allowed to address her directly. And she's a mediocre poetess.

Wonder what really hacked Miss Angelou off? Couldn't have been that cupcake's demeanor. The question? That she sounded so white?

who the fuck she think she...?

THAT is being a cunt! What a disrespectful…CUNT. How fucking dare she say that to a nice, bright young girl who is only trying to be friendly.

WHAT.

A.

CUNT!!

What a cunt.

Yes, of course, she was right. But she did herself no favors with the way she made her point.

I also remember Maya on some show, and they were trying to trash one of her books that got banned in some schools, for a rape scene that had actually happened to her as a young woman. Some bitch in the audience was going on about that, and Maya stopped to clarify that her book is "literature," instead of however the audience person was referring to it.

This also reminds me of Barbara Boxing clarifying to someone calling her "ma'am," during Senate testimony, that she's to be referred to as Senator Boxer, because it was a title she'd worked very hard for. The guy calling her ma'am was actually from the military, and had been taught to refer to all women as "ma'am," so it was actually just a misunderstanding and not disrespect. But of course Barbara got roundly slammed for it.

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Can't Use Normal Tetrameter.

I Know Why The Caged Bird Cunts

I have to agree with Ms. Angelou. I was raised to always refer to older people as Ms., Mrs., or Mr. But, I've been told off by people for saying that or Ma'am or Sir, because they think I am being disrespectful and bring attention to their being old, whereas really I am showing them respect, that they show by their response that they do not deserve respect.

To be honest, I agree with Dr. Angelou. It's a shame that we've gotten so casual in how we address one another. I liked it better when we referred to one another by our last names. It showed respect.

And let me just finish by saying; I'll cut a bitch!

POC drama.

Loved her autobiographies, but her poetry sucked and she was a little pompous. It would have been better to take the girl aside afterwards maybe and talk to her about how to address her - not to humiliate her in front of everyone with some narcissistic rant about how long she has lived and what this young woman owes her. It came across as really hostile and condescending.

Now I know you motherfuckers are gonna give me some respect!

Kill yourself r15. It's just drama.

[quote]Yes, of course, she was right.

No, she wasn't. She would be right if she were introduced as Miss Angelou, but if you introduce someone by their first name to an audience, expect them to be referred to by their first name.

[quote] It would have been better to take the girl aside afterwards maybe and talk to her about how to address her - not to humiliate her in front of everyone

The young woman didn't look or act humiliated to me, she just looked like she appreciated the criticism and agreed with it. And I'm glad it was a black girl so no one can drag race into it.

[Quote]I've been told off by people for saying that or Ma'am or Sir, because they think I am being disrespectful and bring attention to their being old

Yeah, especially in the northern states. I think southerners still say sir and ma'am.

The woman thinks she is Methuselah.

What R21 said, ma'am.

Who does that teenage hussey think she is?

[Quote]And I'm glad it was a black girl so no one can drag race into it.

She should've known better. Black people are very strict about these things.

[quote]Black people are very strict about these things.

Since when.

Sorry: "Since when?"

Cents when?

Ok so...49 Muslims killed in NZ by a white supremacist last night...hundreds of immigrant kids separated from their parents & lost in the USA...our president is insane & owner by Russia...

And we are focusing on a dead black woman who....wrote books?

And now, Maya Angelou for Pennzoil motor oil:

The Pharaoh, the serpentine Nile,

Grecian grottoes marked by eons passing,

Pennzoil.

The choice of champions.

Rick Mears, four-time Indy winner

O! Magic shining ewer of liquid ball bearings

Battling armies of viscosity and thermal breakdown

Pennzoil! Change oil!

Every five thousand miles.

Keep out of reach of children.

Pennzoil is a registered trademark!

Freedom.

The girl asking the question, should have said "MAYA MAYA MAYA MAYA MAYA!!!!! How's that, bitch??!!!"

Pompous cunny

She apparently apologized to her at the end of the show

This is what I would have said:

I want to ask THIS OLD BITCH a GODDAMNED FUCKING QUESTION-

Yo, Maya...

R26 Not sure about Ethiopians, but native American black people and Caribbean ones do tend to be strict about such things. I once ran an Anger Management course and one of my students was an elderly black lady, who was sent to us because she slapped her gang banging thug grandson, at school, because he didn't refer to her as ma'am.

Now we all know where this ridiculous P.C. labeling trend originated.

You can thank MAYA for all of the -cis, binary, etc. bull.

I agree with her point.. But she could’ve been much more gracious in making it.

What happens when she and Diana Ross are in the same room?

Maya can be pompous, it's not she did nothing to earn having an attitude, with her books and the oft quoted "When someone shows you who you are, believe them the first time."

who THEY are..

Marry me, r30.

I believe her.

One thing I will always remember about Maya Angelou, is that on one of her Oprah appearances, she went on about her love of country music. She stated that she considered Hank Williams to be America's greatest poet and she evidently had a major crush on Garth Brooks. You could see some of the people in the audience were shocked.

"Someone...they are" Illiterate snip.

When someone shows you who he or she is...

OR

When people show you who they are...

That poor little girl is ho addressed her as Maya. She’s a sweet pea with glasses and got slapped down like a common garden ho.

R37 a one-sided conversation?

[quote]That poor little girl is ho addressed her as Maya

I don't know which accent with which to read this.

If you've never seen the Big Gay Sketch Show's "Today on Craiglist With America's Treasure, Maya Angelou," it's priceless.

I love hating Maya Angelou. Christ what a phony cunt. There are some house tunes featuring her, which I love, since her voice drips cunt. She was such a grifter. I feel she and Trump would have got along swimmingly - both unctuous but with skillful shtick that fools a lot of people. Sheesh, the black and liberal elite licking her ass along with the Obamas.

Also a THIEVING plagiarist.

My husband was the backstage manager at a performing arts center in northern California. Maya Angelou appeared there. He said she was the most polite, low-maintenance guest they'd seen in a while. No demands, no diva behavior.

i wonder if she ever gave Oprah a similar smackdown, for saying the "wrong" thing?

Was Oprah financially supporting her?

[quote]And I'm glad it was a black girl so no one can drag race into it.

And yet you went and did just that. CUNT.

Ma’am and Sir are ridiculously archaic and servile. You can show respect without sounding like a fawning little toady.

That girl could have call Maya Your highness Queen of Sheba and High Priestess of Calypso, and that old cunt would have slapped back.

I wish I could find one of the old clips of Tracy Morgan doing Maya on SNL. Hilarious.

R54 And, what words would you use? Sir and ma'am, are no more than honorifics that one acquires either by position or age. You are showing respect for their position or the wisdom one acquires with age. We might all like to think that we are all equal but we are not. An intern is not equal to the CEO, a teenager is not equal to their elders. It is the same problem, I have, with children or even adult children calling their parents by their name, yes, you might now be an adult, but you are and will forever be your parent's child, so you will never be equal in the context of that relationship.

I, once, had a job where I was friends with my boss outside of work. At work I always referred to him as sir or Mr. [his name], but outside of work I called him by his first name, because at work he was my superior but outside of work we were equal.

That was cunty. I appreciate her apology. The young lady seemed very gracious about it all. Maya must have been battling with that enourmous ego all her life. Clearly not an easy going person. She reminds me of a college instructor that insisted we call her Doctor. She made such a fuss if one did not address her as doctor. I was embarrassed for her. It must be an indication of self importance and insecurity all at once.

I will always love Maya’s singing.

r26 As an elder gay Black man, as a kid in the 60's I can tell you that when I was a child I was instructed to address an adult by Mr., Mrs., Miss. Any Black person with home training would have told you that. Highly disrespectful to call an adult by their first name.

My mothers best friend used to tell me it was all right to call her by her first name instead of calling her Mrs. Wright. I was in my 40's by then and I just couldn't bring myself to do it because of how strict adults in the Black community were on us young folks about things like that.

Is this woman a lesbian?

r42 A lot of people probably don't realize that Black people who live in the South hear country music all the time and some like it because they are exposed to it, not so strange.

I too was a kid (white) in the 1960s we never dared addressing an adult by their first name. And certainly not an older woman.

R60 It was the same for this white Southern kid from the 1980's and 90's. If I dared to not address an adult with Mr., Mrs., Miss. and Sir or Ma'am, I'd get a spanking with a switch. A switch that I would have to go out and cut myself.

This deserves repeat posting so that those of you calling her a cunt can know she apologized to the girl, on camera, later.

She's not sorry. Apparently she cunted 24/7 at that college that let herself call herself Dr. Prof.

Wakeforest. And she got shitty reviews.

Honorary Doctorate...nuff said

What a fuckin' CUNT. 'nuff said.

R67 Big name professors tend to not be liked by their students. I had a friend who attended Princeton and thought that Joyce Carol Oates was the biggest cunt ever.

Don't lay out for an expensive ring, R40. You'll just end up one day seeking an annulment.

R30 didn't write it.

R70, do her friends call her Joyce Carol or just Joyce?

The girl should have said this...

Maya went after big fish...

It would've been easy for her to say "I know you didn't know, but I l like to be addressed as Miss Angelou when someone is asking a question. Go ahead"

Though, really, her apology was sufficient. The apology makes it a non issue.

Frankly, I don't think Kim was the brightest bulb. She didn't know what to call her, she didn't know to be mortified by her public, televised upbraiding, she didn't know to appreciate the apology... There's a whole other thing goin' on with Kim.

It showed a momentary lack of class which she realized after the fact. There was a rumor back when she came out for Farrakhan's Million Man March that they were going to expose her as a lesbian if she didn't.

Everyone should be called what they want to be called. But when someone makes a big show of being offended, it says more about that person and their insecurities than it does about the person who used the incorrect name. Most times.

But again, her gracious, unqualified apology negated the whole incident. I do not think less of her for it.

[quote]What happens when she and Diana Ross are in the same room?

Not much, I imagine, seeing as how Maya is dead.

Oh and her poetry is a joke. There isn't a single poem that she couldn't have dashed off in five minutes. R30 is on the mark.

She begged me to pull her finger

I think the bigger offense is the audience applauding Maya’s takedown of that poor 14 year old girl. Imagine being her in that moment. No seriously. She probably worked up the courage to ask this question only to be harangued by Ms. Angelou and then the studio audience applauds the dress down? And this girl is 14?!? At an age when you can be humiliated for far less. Just awful.

The lady with the microphone should have turned around and did this...

WEHT the young girl? She seems adorable with her glasses and such.

[quote]As an elder gay Black man, as a kid in the 60's I can tell you that when I was a child I was instructed to address an adult by Mr., Mrs., Miss. Any Black person with home training would have told you that. Highly disrespectful to call an adult by their first name.

Thank you for bringing up the phrase "home training." I wish it was in wider circulation (it's been used in black American families for decades) and both the phrase and the actual thing are in need of a comeback.

I do like the "Miz" or "Mister" construction with the first name when children address adults. It's a good middle ground for kids addressing friends of the family or friends of their parents, but I know some people find it odd to be addressed as "Miz Judy" or "Mr. Steve." If you're not used to it, it can sound like Romper Room or Pee-wee's Playhouse.

I thought her apology was heartfelt and gracious and showed her humility. I actually expected the apology clip to be "I apologize for being short but I expect..." But she didn't do that. She apologized.

Some people just get too full of themselves. Especially those who are usually sought out for advice or made success out of very little. Both of which applied to Maya Angelou. You should not assume you are like a mother, aunt, or grandmother to anyone you don't know.

A lot of people in the audience were groaning, only a few loud claps. And Sally Jessy looked stunned too, like “Who does this bitch think she is?”

Comedian Drew Droege has a million stories about this cunt. She taught at his university. She was a pompous ass and a total con artist. Another crook Oprah forced on the masses.

What a crazy bitch. Deigned to make an appearance where I worked. Insisted on being ferried around indoors in a golf cart. Everyone had to wear white. Refused to be above the first floor if there were windows, and if there were windows, the tour route had to be revised or the windows completely blocked so she couldn't see that they existed.

Angelou is such a mediocre bore. We were forced to read her crap in school by our pc English 'literature' teacher.

I lay down in my grave

And watched my children grow

Proud blooms above the weeds of death

I lay down in my grave

My grave

To die.

Happy fifth birthday, grandson!

Shouldn't we be shrieking about how Tracy Morgan is a homophobe? Remember, here at Datalounge we are all about banning/deleting and ruining the career of those with whom we disagree with.

One of the good things.about DL is that we don't have the power to ruin anyone's career. R91 is. hysterical in both meanings of the word.

I heard the caged cunt sing.

Someone in a previous DL revealed that they had worked with Maya irl and that was a real cunt. The poster went into greater detail about why she was so awful, but I was so sad to read his experience. I always took his story with a grain of salt so to give Maya the benefit of the doubt, but I guess at the end of the day she was a miserable cunt.

Sad.

^^^DL thread

I knew everyone would ignore R49's post.

It would be interesting to know the approximate timeline for R49's story.

The really crazy Maya behaviors seem to have taken place mid 1980s - 1990s.

I hope this doesn't come off as condescending, but for Angelou it was about respect, respect she fought for really hard. Not that many black artists had that mainstream and critical success and respect and she didn't want to let it go for one second. She wanted to be seen as an authority figure you look up to and not as someone you casually talk to addessing her with her first name, like she's your friend or maid.

Well she never had to worry about anyone thinking of her as a friend, that part is obvious.

The old cow was just spitting her venom at a young fish. Jealous of a vibrant and prettier female.

Women do this all the time :cutting younger women down to size.

Drew Droege explains why you shouldn't meet your heroes

(starts at 2:13)

I loved Cage Bird and was bored by everything else she wrote.

[quote] To be honest, I agree with Dr. Angelou.

She is as much [bold] Dr. [/bold] Angelou as Paul Anka is Dr. Anka and Puff Daddy is Dr. Puff Daddy. Honorary Doctorate. Bitch never worked her way through and managed to earn a doctorate.

I stand with Cunt Angelou.

R96, apparently, WWs aren't going through yet.

R96 Welcome to Datalounge, bitch.

Maya not a cunt. She just hate that damn chartreuse.

Wait, how can others see how many WWs some comment get? I thought only the poster himself gets a WW notification?

No one is seeing any WWs, I think, R108. Imma send you one right now.

[quote]What a crazy bitch. Deigned to make an appearance where I worked. Insisted on being ferried around indoors in a golf cart. Everyone had to wear white. Refused to be above the first floor if there were windows, and if there were windows, the tour route had to be revised or the windows completely blocked so she couldn't see that they existed.

She wore those glasses because had light sensitivity and cataracts.

She also had trouble moving around because of her heart so she needed assistance moving.

Did you not know any of that R88 or did you just think she was trying to be cool?

[quote] No one is seeing any WWs, I think,

That's why I find this exchange rather odd.

[quote] I knew everyone would ignore [R49]'s post.

[quote] [R96], apparently, WWs aren't going through yet.

Oh r110, she was such an insufferable drama queen.

" Did you not know any of that or were you just trying to be cool?"

Would have been funnier if she addressed her as Mammy.

R110 None of that was mentioned before or during her appearance. And she didn't wear sunglasses. And I didn't mention them.

[quote] Would have been funnier if she addressed her as Mammy.

As horrible and racist as this is, that's exactly the kind of response entitled cunts like this deserve.

I love people saying this cunt had basic manners by being entitled and condescending.

A true class act would've turned to the harmless girl and said something like "I'm so glad you found me youthful enough to address me by my first name". That would be cunty as well, but classier.

Maya was all about class. She considered herself superior and wanted to be treated as such.

I wonder how they addressed her when she was a hooker?

R118 you got half of that right -- she definitely thought herself superior.

Grace: you either have it in you or you don't. No mediocre poetry can turn trash into gold. smh

R75 She was a child. That would be the "something" that was going on with Kim.

Serious question:

Could Maya have pulled off Mame?

[quote] She wanted to be seen as an authority figure you look up to and not as someone you casually talk to addressing her with her first name, like she's your friend or maid.

Respect is something you earn. The moment you demand it you're just an entitled asshole, like Angelou was. Not surprisingly this is the same type of behavior everyone I've ever knew who worked with Spike Lee says about him too. Two peas in a pod.

R123 no. For that, it's necessary to have warmth. informality, friendliness, an understanding of what it means to assume familiarity, and a sense of humor.

An actress can't fake what she can't comprehend.

[quote] [R118] you got half of that right -- she definitely thought herself superior.

You do realize that I was referring to the class system, right? She was all about class, the social class hierarchy system.

She was as ugly as sin.

Other than a politician, she was subject to more different impersonations than anyone I can think of on SNL. She was imitated by David Alan Grier, Tracy Morgan, Maya Rudolph, and Kenan Thompson. Her pompousness made her into a figure of fun, when what she wanted was dignity.

Profoundly insecure people behave the way Maya did to that girl and in those WF reviews. Insulting people and going for the easy kill is a mark of insecurity.

What exactly is "Black Twitter?"

Is it one specific Twitter account, or a random sampling, or what?

The idea makes no sense.

She was an unbearably pretentious cunt. Glad she’s dead.

R131 = Ooprah

She was a very strange woman. I agree with r129's point she was very insecure, which led to her at times very bizarre pretentious behavior. But I think at some level you can understand why she was so insecure--she came from absolutely nothing, and grew up to be hailed (as an adult) as one of the wisest women alive. It might turn anyone's head.

R119 Sugar Tits?

[quote]Remember, here at Datalounge we are all about banning/deleting and ruining the career of those with whom we disagree with.

LOL, "disagree" when it comes to "gay", but "bigot" etc. when it comes to "religion", right?

I haven't read every post in this thread, but I'm black and I will tell you that this is a huge thing in my black family and I think you will find this in many black families. You do not call an adult by their first name unless you have been given permission to do so. And even when given permission make sure your Mother knows that you have been given permission. But even then, it just make it easier to call them Miss Thelma or Miss Louise or Miss Janet or whatever. There are clear lines that you just don't cross.

R124 Agree about Maya and Spike's similarly entitled attitude. However, Lee never worked his way out of poverty - he was always a spoiled,entitled little shit who did NOT experience any of the disadvantages and racially motivated rancor depicted in his films.

He grew up in Brooklyn Heights and attended the prestigious St. Anne's School. At 40,000 a year, it ain't cheap. Because I know this as fact [bold] and [/bold] knew Lee and his sister, I have always considered him the ultimate FRAUD.

Why is this coming up five years after she died?

r136 I also grew up with the same social rules, but they applied to children. This was a young woman. Once you are an adult, you have to earn that kind of respect from other adults, its not a given.

Im 58 and to this day I dont address people by their first names until invited to do so. Honestly,some of you all sound like trash !

R139 Just because you turn 18, that does not mean you lose your manners.

This is 2019, not 1819. People are busy. First names whenever possible, please. Skip the faux genteel antebellum antiquity.