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***BREAKING*** TERRORIST ATTACK IN NEW ZEALAND

Shooter live streamed; car bombing; mosques attacked; 6 dead; 30 injured...

by Anonymousreply 601March 15, 2019 7:27 PM

News.

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by Anonymousreply 1March 15, 2019 2:49 AM

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by Anonymousreply 2March 15, 2019 2:49 AM

Shooter posted his manifesto here.

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by Anonymousreply 3March 15, 2019 2:50 AM

Live-streamed entire attack on Facebook.

by Anonymousreply 4March 15, 2019 2:51 AM

[quote]Since people are asking, and so that all of you don't have to look it up: the Christchurch shooter indeed livestreamed it, and indeed says 'remember lads, subscribe to pewdiepie' before walking into a mosque, shooting dozens, & straight-up executing many.

[quote]sis if you see this before I you read any of my other messages, please please please just believe me and don't look it up

Shit.

by Anonymousreply 5March 15, 2019 2:53 AM

Oh, boy.

by Anonymousreply 6March 15, 2019 2:55 AM

So another right-wing terrorist? We have dealt with plenty of them in America.

Only 6 dead though. That's quaint for a mass shooting.

by Anonymousreply 7March 15, 2019 2:54 AM

Pewdiepie is fucked.

by Anonymousreply 8March 15, 2019 2:55 AM

300+ people were in attendance, so that's a lifelong trauma for all of them sorted. What a monster.

by Anonymousreply 9March 15, 2019 2:55 AM

What is it with people live streaming killings on Facebook???

by Anonymousreply 10March 15, 2019 3:00 AM

I hope Lucy Lawless is unharmed.

by Anonymousreply 11March 15, 2019 3:02 AM

I just saw some footage of the attack on Twitter - it was on autoplay, so I saw it without even clicking. I don't understand why people post this stuff. Have some respect for the victims.

by Anonymousreply 12March 15, 2019 3:02 AM

I just watched the killer's facebook live stream that someone posted on twitter. Horrific! Can't sleep tonight

by Anonymousreply 13March 15, 2019 3:03 AM

Per CNN, shots have been fired at a second mosque.

by Anonymousreply 14March 15, 2019 3:04 AM

of course another angry white supremacist

disgusting

by Anonymousreply 15March 15, 2019 3:06 AM

Mosque seemed really empty in that video live stream.

by Anonymousreply 16March 15, 2019 3:06 AM

Maybe Facebook should rethink the idea of giving live streaming a platform.

by Anonymousreply 17March 15, 2019 3:06 AM

Is his name Brent or Brett Tarrant?

Is there multiple shooters?

by Anonymousreply 18March 15, 2019 3:08 AM

Still active? I just saw this short video of a drive-by on Twitter which looked like cops apprehending some guy on the street.

by Anonymousreply 19March 15, 2019 3:08 AM

This looks to be a MAJOR casualty event. Are guns prevalent in NZ? How can people do this to other people, really sick shit.

by Anonymousreply 20March 15, 2019 3:14 AM

Fucking Monster....

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by Anonymousreply 21March 15, 2019 3:14 AM

Can we cancel Facebook?

by Anonymousreply 22March 15, 2019 3:18 AM

he had a manifesto on twitter, but his twitter account was deleted

by Anonymousreply 23March 15, 2019 3:18 AM

The numbers may be “quaint” to you, for a mass shooting, R7. Not surprising - you’re American.

But to people from a civilised country with gun control, any numbers are pretty horrifying.

Pull your fat head out of your undoubted fat arse and show some fucking empathy. There is a whole wide world out here beyond your fucked up shores.

by Anonymousreply 24March 15, 2019 3:18 AM

Does anyone know what the gun control situation is like in New Zealand? Is it legal to own guns?

by Anonymousreply 25March 15, 2019 3:18 AM

People should give this monster no attention.

by Anonymousreply 26March 15, 2019 3:18 AM

Reminds me a lot of that Brevik guy. R17 facebook doesn't give a fuck who or what they host. Neither does twitter. They're run by scumbags, this will change nothing.

by Anonymousreply 27March 15, 2019 3:19 AM

He's from Australia and immigrated to New Zealand. He hates immigrants and capitalists.

by Anonymousreply 28March 15, 2019 3:20 AM

What will Trump blame this on? Does he know New Zealand ain’t Australia?

by Anonymousreply 29March 15, 2019 3:22 AM

r7, r24 There will be many more than 6, I'd say. I've seen the livestream.

MSNBC FINALLY covering this, took them about 2 hours though. People are being gunned down in NZ and the US media has to have day 1400 of Trump coverage... I'm sick of it!

by Anonymousreply 30March 15, 2019 3:24 AM

I bet there gonna be followers, FB online live stream killing will become a new trend

by Anonymousreply 31March 15, 2019 3:25 AM

There are other channels besides MSNBC. You can probably watch live coverage on the web from NZ.

by Anonymousreply 32March 15, 2019 3:25 AM

R31, that's already a thing

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by Anonymousreply 33March 15, 2019 3:27 AM

That video is one of the most disturbing videos I've seen on the internet. Awful. RIP to the victims ;(

by Anonymousreply 34March 15, 2019 3:26 AM

Police now believe there’s 3 active shooters.

by Anonymousreply 35March 15, 2019 3:27 AM

This guy ?

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by Anonymousreply 36March 15, 2019 3:28 AM

Install the SkyNews app on Roku. They're all over it.

by Anonymousreply 37March 15, 2019 3:28 AM

I wish someone would gut him, detaching his rectum.

by Anonymousreply 38March 15, 2019 3:28 AM

This is sad.

Just goes to show how right wing conservatism breeds terrorism. What is wrong with the world?

by Anonymousreply 39March 15, 2019 3:28 AM

I'm sure the live streaming element will inspire other nuts for years to come....and Facebook will never be held accountable for giving them a platform.

by Anonymousreply 40March 15, 2019 3:29 AM

R36, pewdiepie is the biggest Youtuber from Sweden. A fucking gamer troll.

by Anonymousreply 41March 15, 2019 3:29 AM

White wing extremism is on the loose!

by Anonymousreply 42March 15, 2019 3:31 AM

The killer left the message "sub to Pewdiepie"

by Anonymousreply 43March 15, 2019 3:30 AM

R41 And a well-known white supremacist. Incels worship him.

by Anonymousreply 44March 15, 2019 3:32 AM

I would love to see YouTube and Twitter give him a lifetime ban over this but they care more about ad dollars than doing the right thing.

by Anonymousreply 45March 15, 2019 3:34 AM

It happened in Quebec several years ago as well. Right wing terrorists are as evil as jihadists

by Anonymousreply 46March 15, 2019 3:34 AM

So sad. Some of those killed may have escaped death in Syria or Iraq just to die in New Zealand.

You don't want Muslims in white countries? Then stay out of theirs.

by Anonymousreply 47March 15, 2019 3:34 AM

R41, is he a white supremacist?

by Anonymousreply 48March 15, 2019 3:35 AM

curious how Fox covers this tomorrow. How in the world will they spin a clearly Islamophobic attack that seems to be inspired by the words of and support for Trump?

by Anonymousreply 49March 15, 2019 3:37 AM

and Trump offers his condolences by simply tweeting a generic link to Brietbart News while this is happening.

by Anonymousreply 50March 15, 2019 3:38 AM

The camera appears to be attached to his head.

by Anonymousreply 51March 15, 2019 3:37 AM

The killer is Australian

by Anonymousreply 52March 15, 2019 3:39 AM

Fox wants this. They promote this. You guys, just please be safe. This is horrible.

by Anonymousreply 53March 15, 2019 3:39 AM

[quote]He's from Australia and immigrated to New Zealand. He hates immigrants

But ...

by Anonymousreply 54March 15, 2019 3:38 AM

Trump poisons the world while Mueller does WHAT?

by Anonymousreply 55March 15, 2019 3:41 AM

To answer the gun question, we have very few in NZ, people in rural areas do for hunting but we are not a 'gun in every house' country in anyway.

In face two weeks ago the Police try to arm themselves and we, as a country lost our shit. Interesting timing of this attack. Our solo cops in small towns have guns in the boot, and we have an armed defenders squad, and they would have been in play here.

This will really resonate here, we mostly hate guns. Shit

by Anonymousreply 56March 15, 2019 3:41 AM

And OP do not call this a terrorist attack thanks, just some needle dick white man, as per usual

by Anonymousreply 57March 15, 2019 3:41 AM

where in the US can I find a live stream of this please? Those poor souls...

by Anonymousreply 58March 15, 2019 3:43 AM

The Brit who pushes Brixit should be exterminated, along with Don. This Nazi filth, needs to be dead.

by Anonymousreply 59March 15, 2019 3:43 AM

Isn't Christchurch kind of a hotbed of racism in New Zealand?

by Anonymousreply 60March 15, 2019 3:44 AM

So is the guy at R36 the killer, or no?

by Anonymousreply 61March 15, 2019 3:43 AM

What? Is he white ? Then he must be a victim of alcoholism and substance abuse. He prob has depressions. We need to send him to the rehab for couple days

by Anonymousreply 62March 15, 2019 3:44 AM

Does anyone have a link to the live stream?

by Anonymousreply 63March 15, 2019 3:45 AM

How is it a red tagged troll can still post?

by Anonymousreply 64March 15, 2019 3:46 AM

No thy enemy R64.

by Anonymousreply 65March 15, 2019 3:46 AM

OOPS...know!

by Anonymousreply 66March 15, 2019 3:47 AM

😂

by Anonymousreply 67March 15, 2019 3:46 AM

BREAKING: New Zealand police report “multiple fatalities” at two mosques in the Christchurch-Canterbury area. One person in custody, “but we are unsure if there are other people.”

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by Anonymousreply 68March 15, 2019 3:50 AM

Is anyone subscribed to PewDiePie ?

by Anonymousreply 69March 15, 2019 3:51 AM

Why did Trump tweet a link to Breitbart? It's not even to a story. Or this story. It's just to their main page.

by Anonymousreply 70March 15, 2019 3:51 AM

Hospital still locked down, as are other parts of the city, 9 dead, 40 injured,

by Anonymousreply 71March 15, 2019 3:51 AM

Have they released the shooters name?

by Anonymousreply 72March 15, 2019 3:54 AM

How are there still people like r24 around who are too stupid to recognize satire when they see it?

by Anonymousreply 73March 15, 2019 3:54 AM

Branton Tarrant.

by Anonymousreply 74March 15, 2019 3:54 AM

I can't find a live stream anywhere. Just repeats, or clips.

by Anonymousreply 75March 15, 2019 3:55 AM

ABC livestream

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by Anonymousreply 76March 15, 2019 3:55 AM

Interesting what massacres the media deigns to spotlight, and which ones they don't.

Did you hear about the Brazilian elementary school slaughter ?

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by Anonymousreply 77March 15, 2019 3:56 AM

Racist killer did this in a Quebec City mosque in 2017, also killed six and wounded many more, but spared himself, unfortunately.

by Anonymousreply 78March 15, 2019 3:56 AM

Thank you r76!

by Anonymousreply 79March 15, 2019 3:56 AM

On the ABC livestream, a guy said iman of mosque told him at least 100 shot

by Anonymousreply 80March 15, 2019 3:57 AM

[quote] Did you hear about the Brazilian elementary school slaughter ?

Yes. We were actually taking about it at work yesterday.

by Anonymousreply 81March 15, 2019 3:57 AM

Is PewDiePie a racist and/or white supremacist?

by Anonymousreply 82March 15, 2019 3:58 AM

I want Commissioner Mike Bush inside me quite deeply.

by Anonymousreply 83March 15, 2019 3:59 AM

EnZed

by Anonymousreply 84March 15, 2019 4:00 AM

R82, he is a gun enthusiast

by Anonymousreply 85March 15, 2019 3:59 AM

This wouldn't have happened if Jake "Da Muss" Heke was around.

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by Anonymousreply 86March 15, 2019 3:59 AM

The blond reporter on the ABC feed is cute. I feel bad for saying that right now....I said it anyway.

by Anonymousreply 87March 15, 2019 4:00 AM

[quote]We were actually taking about it at work yesterday.

Where do you work? Nobody I work with would ever discuss something of such a sensitive nature in the office.

by Anonymousreply 88March 15, 2019 4:00 AM

R87, I hope he is safe

by Anonymousreply 89March 15, 2019 4:01 AM

How nice R73 that you think that the deaths of (at last count) nine people can be the object of satire. That poster wasn’t being satirical, s/he was just being yet another clueless American.

by Anonymousreply 90March 15, 2019 4:00 AM

R57 this IS a terror attack

by Anonymousreply 91March 15, 2019 4:01 AM

R80 That guy is nuts.

Bangladesh test cricket match cancelled on Saturday in Christchurch

by Anonymousreply 92March 15, 2019 4:01 AM

I like how the NZ prime minister said “thoughts” but not “prayers”.

She also said mosque attendees, many of whom are immigrants and refugees, are New Zealanders and the killer is not. Great to see a real leader and not the orange coward.

by Anonymousreply 93March 15, 2019 4:02 AM

r69 fuck no.

by Anonymousreply 94March 15, 2019 4:01 AM

Could be around 100 dead. Good God.

by Anonymousreply 95March 15, 2019 4:02 AM

I want to give the Prime Minister a hug. She looks so stricken.

by Anonymousreply 96March 15, 2019 4:02 AM

Jacinda Arden is amazing - what she said was what needed to be said, nothing less and nothing more.

by Anonymousreply 97March 15, 2019 4:02 AM

[quote] Where do you work? Nobody I work with would ever discuss something of such a sensitive nature in the office.

I work in finance. News such as that is discussed openly in the offices in that it can affect financial markets.

by Anonymousreply 98March 15, 2019 4:02 AM

[quote] R82, he is a gun enthusiast

That didn’t answer my question: “Is PewDiePie a racist and/or white supremacist?”

by Anonymousreply 99March 15, 2019 4:06 AM

Today Trump threatened people who disagreed with him. He said the military, the cops and Bikers for Trump support him and there could be trouble if they get too angry. This is what the turd in a punchbowl(Trump), told the American people and we thought we lived in a democracy.

by Anonymousreply 100March 15, 2019 4:07 AM

New Zealand is such a beautiful country. Is nothing sacred?

by Anonymousreply 101March 15, 2019 4:08 AM

Dozens dead. This guy did not act alone. His manifesto screams skizo or trolling

by Anonymousreply 102March 15, 2019 4:08 AM

R90 never heard of gallows humor. Are you 10 years old? Grow up.

by Anonymousreply 103March 15, 2019 4:07 AM

I wish we had a Jacinda in our White House. Her tone is perfect. She seems very intelligent yet compassionate, and personally stricken but as composed as she could possibly be under these circumstances. I, too, liked that she didn't throw in "prayers"

by Anonymousreply 104March 15, 2019 4:07 AM

Here's another livestream since the ABC one went down:

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by Anonymousreply 105March 15, 2019 4:07 AM

Isn't this a really good argument to arm the police? It's depressing and sickening, but US cops can probably teach seminars in how to quickly deal with mass shooting events, we have fucking enough of them.

by Anonymousreply 106March 15, 2019 4:10 AM

Will this set off Muslim jihad? Especially after Gaza today! Israel was totally justified.

by Anonymousreply 107March 15, 2019 4:10 AM

Kiwi here R103 - if growing up means the stupidity and callousness displayed upthread, I’ll pass, thanks.

An American telling anyone to grow up - now that’s humorous.

Oh, btw “Kiwi” means New Zealander, but that probably is beyond your very tiny little world view.

by Anonymousreply 108March 15, 2019 4:11 AM

One of the live videos shot by a bystander seemed to show at least two gunmen outside, do we know how many there might be? I hope they get caught before it turns into a multi-day manhunt like the boston bombing.

by Anonymousreply 109March 15, 2019 4:12 AM

Is the manifesto posted anywhere online?

The one on his Twitter page was taken down.

by Anonymousreply 110March 15, 2019 4:12 AM

*live videos TAKEN by a bystander seemed

by Anonymousreply 111March 15, 2019 4:12 AM

The footage is... more stomach-churning than Columbine.

by Anonymousreply 112March 15, 2019 4:13 AM

R108 I'm not American. You ASSume a lot.

by Anonymousreply 113March 15, 2019 4:13 AM

Now 27 dead, R7 - still “quaint”, mate?

by Anonymousreply 114March 15, 2019 4:15 AM

People performing their horrors to the Web. It's time to regulate, for fuck's sake.

by Anonymousreply 115March 15, 2019 4:15 AM

The Newshub stream is saying he used a AR-15

by Anonymousreply 116March 15, 2019 4:16 AM

I love you (r86)

by Anonymousreply 117March 15, 2019 4:17 AM

Kiwi here, our journalists are fucking useless, they had to confirm one of the shooters names from the Oz media.

And guy upthread this is not a terrorist attack as we are not terrified

by Anonymousreply 118March 15, 2019 4:17 AM

Men be killing!

by Anonymousreply 119March 15, 2019 4:18 AM

The gunman

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by Anonymousreply 120March 15, 2019 4:17 AM

Radicalism/Extremism? Or just straight up lunatic(s)? You can fight it, but will never win. Scary and disheartening. Is there a bullet point of the manifesto anywhere?

by Anonymousreply 121March 15, 2019 4:18 AM

Name, Brenton Tarrant

by Anonymousreply 122March 15, 2019 4:19 AM

RIP so sad.

by Anonymousreply 123March 15, 2019 4:20 AM

You may not be terrified, r118, but it has disrupted everyday life. People are beimg told not to attend mosques until further notice.

by Anonymousreply 124March 15, 2019 4:19 AM

His bullets are bigger than my hand.

by Anonymousreply 125March 15, 2019 4:21 AM

R115 I agree especially because you know it will inspire many copycats to livestream their massacres

by Anonymousreply 126March 15, 2019 4:20 AM

were they wearing red hats?

by Anonymousreply 127March 15, 2019 4:22 AM

His FB is archived on kiwifarms.com.

Yes - very Brevik as someone mentioned.

3 shooters is what I've seen being reported. Brenton Tarrant (the Australian emigrant to NZ reportedly in custody (?) - not dead.

by Anonymousreply 128March 15, 2019 4:23 AM

Brenton Tarrant: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

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by Anonymousreply 129March 15, 2019 4:22 AM

Will Muslims retaliate?

by Anonymousreply 130March 15, 2019 4:23 AM

FROM HIS MANIFESTO Were/are you a supporter of Donald Trump? As a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose? Sure. As a policy maker and leader? Dear god no.

by Anonymousreply 131March 15, 2019 4:24 AM

There's some pretty sick tickets in this thread.

Why do we need to watch the video, give name to the shooter, read a crazy manifesto, and talk about fucking pewdiepie?

Google any of those things if you really want to know, but there's no need to bring further attention to trash.

by Anonymousreply 132March 15, 2019 4:23 AM

In the manifesto, he answers a series of questions that people might pose to a mass shooter. It’s basically a Q and A with himself. At the beginning of the video, he says, “subscribe to Pewdipie.” At the end of the manifesto, he says, “Europa arises.”

by Anonymousreply 133March 15, 2019 4:23 AM

When I saw the livestream inside the mosque (on twitter) I really hadn't heard about this yet and I legitimately thought it was video game footage. This needs to be regulated, but fuck if I can imagine how that would work. Ban facebook livestream? I'm for it.

by Anonymousreply 134March 15, 2019 4:24 AM

Aspergers?

by Anonymousreply 135March 15, 2019 4:24 AM

This tweet says it links to his manifesto but it reads like so much gibberish IMO.

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by Anonymousreply 136March 15, 2019 4:24 AM

One question asked who he was and he wrote, “Just a ordinary white man, 28 years old. Born in Australia to a working class, low income family. My parents are of Scottish, Irish and English stock. I had a regular childhood, without any great issues. I had little interest in education during my schooling, barely achieving a passing grade.” He claimed he invested in “bitconnect,” used the money to travel, and added, “I am just a regular white man, from a regular family. Who decided to take a stand to ensure a future for my people.”

by Anonymousreply 137March 15, 2019 4:25 AM

Sad too as at 1om local Christchurch time the (international) community of schoolkids striking school were due to protest Climate Change in the ongoing activism and were warned off by Christchurch police.

The world is going to shut it a handcart worried about brown people while we do nothing about what *really* matters.

by Anonymousreply 138March 15, 2019 4:26 AM

r128 was kiwifarms watching this guy before today? If so, investigate all the people they're following NOW.

by Anonymousreply 139March 15, 2019 4:26 AM

what the fuck is 8chan?

by Anonymousreply 140March 15, 2019 4:27 AM

Why are so many right-wingers into bitcoin?

by Anonymousreply 141March 15, 2019 4:27 AM

who is he? white, black? russian? native?

by Anonymousreply 142March 15, 2019 4:27 AM

R134 I agree Facebook needs to discontinue livestreaming or limit it to trusted individuals (ie blue checkmark people on Twitter)

by Anonymousreply 143March 15, 2019 4:27 AM

I thought they gun laws in NZ? where did he get the fucking machine gun?

by Anonymousreply 144March 15, 2019 4:29 AM

R134 There's always going to be another outlet thats available for mass public viewing. Programs as such are created weekly if not daily. Once its out it can't be stopped.

by Anonymousreply 145March 15, 2019 4:28 AM

More than one shooter!

by Anonymousreply 146March 15, 2019 4:28 AM

That video (and I made the mistake of watching most of it before Youtube yanked it) was horrible, but does anybody think it was any worse than Pulse in Orlando or the Bataclan in Paris must have been? And after those incidents, a significant amount of comments were along the lines of "it was horrible what happened but we can't demonize Muslims." Funny how nobody is saying that now.

I agree with r135 about the un-reality of the video. I honestly thought it was some kind of movie, joke,or some kind of sanitized re-enactment of a terrorist attack. It's sad the way that violent content can jade you about real-life violence. One thing that shocked me is how little people bleed when shot in real life compared to the gushing fountains of blood we see in the movies.

The shooter was a fucking deranged animal, but it doesn't change the fact that a significant amount of violence, both sexual and otherwise, has accompanied the spread of Islam in Europe. Call me whatever you want for pointing it out, but it's the truth and everybody with any sense knows it.

by Anonymousreply 147March 15, 2019 4:29 AM

Cops live updating now -

Cannot confirm how many dead

Two mosques were hit.

Four people in custody, not looking for anymore

by Anonymousreply 148March 15, 2019 4:29 AM

Errr r134. Sorry.

by Anonymousreply 149March 15, 2019 4:31 AM

Original live stream still up on certain channels. Insane.

by Anonymousreply 150March 15, 2019 4:31 AM

One of the shooters was a woman.

by Anonymousreply 151March 15, 2019 4:32 AM

Great post R147 - you voice my thoughts exactly.

by Anonymousreply 152March 15, 2019 4:33 AM

Wow, i saw some of the footage, some people were already in a corner and down, but the shooter still shooting...were they dead already or trying to hide?

by Anonymousreply 153March 15, 2019 4:33 AM

4 in custody (3 men and 1 women) according to news livestream

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by Anonymousreply 154March 15, 2019 4:32 AM

Thanks goodness he was no longer in Australia and Brenton Thwaites was his target.

by Anonymousreply 155March 15, 2019 4:33 AM

oh wow, a woman! fucking hell!

by Anonymousreply 156March 15, 2019 4:34 AM

R144 I believe I heard that the gun was legal, but not the magazines (ammunition). Whatever that means?

by Anonymousreply 157March 15, 2019 4:33 AM

They disarmed multiple IEDs attached to cars

by Anonymousreply 158March 15, 2019 4:35 AM

are they foreigners? these shooters? or were they born there?

by Anonymousreply 159March 15, 2019 4:34 AM

gotta be more people involved...

by Anonymousreply 160March 15, 2019 4:34 AM

R153 Both and severely injured.

by Anonymousreply 161March 15, 2019 4:36 AM

Police officers outside of Christchurch are being armed....I guess police in New Zealand are not normally armed

by Anonymousreply 162March 15, 2019 4:35 AM

This is big!!

by Anonymousreply 163March 15, 2019 4:37 AM

R162 YES I noticed that little tidbit as well, fuck, they have been desperate for armed cops and they are going to fucking use this to do it.

We are now fucked

by Anonymousreply 164March 15, 2019 4:37 AM

Once again, the fine Freeps at Free Republic are in fetid fettle...

[quote]I wonder who is shooting up mosques in order to drum up sympathy for Islam ... hmmm ... it ain't the Amish.

[quote]I suggest you watch video of our countrymen leaping to their deaths from the WTC on September 11, 2001. That was filthy. After 9/11, there is no sympathy for muslims from this quarter. Take what you saw here, and realize it is what muslims do to humans somewhere every day of the year, year after year, century after century..

[quote]The guy was a Communist. Not a conservative.

[quote]Why was there not a single scream? Silent as a mouse. Didn’t see any blood, even when he shot that guy from 4 inches away, should have been a huge spray and gush of blood. Bizarre.

[quote]Said he’s not Antifa. I don’t believe it.

by Anonymousreply 165March 15, 2019 4:37 AM

What did the Israelis do in Gaza? Bastards!

by Anonymousreply 166March 15, 2019 4:37 AM

I’m kind of envious of those who saw the video. I know, I’m sure it’s terrible. I just have FOMO.

by Anonymousreply 167March 15, 2019 4:40 AM

[quote] what the fuck is 8chan?

Why do you ask? I'm wondering myself now that you asked.

by Anonymousreply 168March 15, 2019 4:40 AM

I heard 4 arrested.

by Anonymousreply 169March 15, 2019 4:41 AM

8 Chan connection + read the comments re what it takes to own a gun in NZ.

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by Anonymousreply 170March 15, 2019 4:43 AM

I hate when a story like this is blown up in the press before you can even get an estimate on how many died. I assume it's dozens, or the news would not be making such a big deal of this.

by Anonymousreply 171March 15, 2019 4:44 AM

how come they know about where they plotted? that was fast!

by Anonymousreply 172March 15, 2019 4:45 AM

R171, 9news is saying (unconfirmed) 27 dead and many more injured.

by Anonymousreply 173March 15, 2019 4:48 AM

Someone on Twitter said 8 chan is the home of that Q Anon crap.

My partner said it’s “4chan squared.”

by Anonymousreply 174March 15, 2019 4:47 AM

They are saying 27 fatalities with significant injuries. Fatalities include children. This is BIG! NZ just doesn't have shootings like this!

It will have local security ramifications too now as it's unfortunately chiming with local intent to arm ccps and not just have Armed response teams instead. Kiwi is the kind of country that has never needed the local constabulary to be armed to the teeth as it has strict weapons laws.

by Anonymousreply 175March 15, 2019 4:49 AM

What is the point of shooting people who have no power? Those are not the people who I want dead.

The drone assassination idea seemed like a good idea but it did not work out at all.

I feel bad for people who went to worship and got killed. I am an atheist but everyone should be able to follow their foolish religions, as long as they preach peace.

by Anonymousreply 176March 15, 2019 4:49 AM

R166, Sirens went off in Tel Aviv. Israel retaliated.

by Anonymousreply 177March 15, 2019 4:50 AM

A lot of nutty (and hateful) beliefs this guy has, but perhaps the nuttiest is that his actions could start a gun ban in the USA which would then lead to civil war. Apparently he missed our response to all of the shootings in our own country.

by Anonymousreply 178March 15, 2019 4:50 AM

where the fuck did they get the guns??? and ammo?

by Anonymousreply 179March 15, 2019 4:51 AM

Brenton Tarrant's manifesto includes personal detail where he says his recent employment has been as a "kebab removalist" = WTF??

What's that about then?

by Anonymousreply 180March 15, 2019 4:52 AM

A kebab removalist is the person who removes the meat from the kebab skewers and puts them into the pitas.

by Anonymousreply 181March 15, 2019 4:53 AM

I wonder if all four are Australian? The manifesto makes me believe this guy is a loner . How did he get accomplices?

by Anonymousreply 182March 15, 2019 4:53 AM

Now saying "up to 30 dead."

by Anonymousreply 183March 15, 2019 4:54 AM

[quote]The killer left the message "sub to Pewdiepie"

So he identifies as a sub? Pewdiepie is his master? You would think he would be a dom.

by Anonymousreply 184March 15, 2019 4:55 AM

[quote] The drone assassination idea seemed like a good idea but it did not work out at all.

What's drone assassination?

by Anonymousreply 185March 15, 2019 4:55 AM

Such terrible news!

by Anonymousreply 186March 15, 2019 4:55 AM

Indeed, so sad.

by Anonymousreply 187March 15, 2019 4:54 AM

“Remove Kebab” is an anti-Muslim meme (and a song that was playing in his Facebook video).

by Anonymousreply 188March 15, 2019 4:55 AM

Now that is gallows humor.

by Anonymousreply 189March 15, 2019 4:55 AM

New Zealand? Is that next to Old Zealand?

by Anonymousreply 190March 15, 2019 4:55 AM

R167 There are still videos of the massacre all over Twitter.

by Anonymousreply 191March 15, 2019 4:57 AM

“The world is going to shut it a handcart worried about brown people while we do nothing about what *really* matters.”

Well...there was 9/11 and a slew of terrorist attacks perpetrated by Muslims.

by Anonymousreply 192March 15, 2019 4:57 AM

[quote] That video (and I made the mistake of watching most of it before Youtube yanked it) was horrible, but does anybody think it was any worse than Pulse in Orlando or the Bataclan in Paris must have been? And after those incidents, a significant amount of comments were along the lines of "it was horrible what happened but we can't demonize Muslims." Funny how nobody is saying that now.

Given that Muslims were the victims of the shooting, sane people probably don't need to be instructed not to demonize them for it.

[quote] The shooter was a fucking deranged animal, but it doesn't change the fact that a significant amount of violence, both sexual and otherwise, has accompanied the spread of Islam in Europe.

Well, this violence happened in New Zealand, not Europe, and it happened TO Muslims, so WTF is your point?

by Anonymousreply 193March 15, 2019 4:58 AM

Australia must be embarrassed

by Anonymousreply 194March 15, 2019 4:57 AM

Shooter quotes Dylan Thomas' poem on his social media.

by Anonymousreply 195March 15, 2019 4:58 AM

[quote]“I am just a regular white man, from a regular family. Who decided to take a stand to ensure a future for my people.”

Wouldn't procreating be a more productive way of ensuring future for "his people". What's the world turning into.

by Anonymousreply 196March 15, 2019 4:59 AM

I don’t see how anyone could watch that. I’m going to bed.

Ugh. Sorry New Zealand. Don’t get used to it like we have.

by Anonymousreply 197March 15, 2019 4:59 AM

what were their occupations?

by Anonymousreply 198March 15, 2019 5:00 AM

There are no women in mosques, right ?

by Anonymousreply 199March 15, 2019 5:00 AM

Because DL's search is down I couldn't get to this thread unless I unblocked the troll OP.

I know we've long had trolls do that thing where they start "important" threads so they're seen as indispensable, but this guy is a big homophobe, so I'd rather have kept him on ignore.

by Anonymousreply 200March 15, 2019 5:03 AM

Who was the DLer who shot his co-workers at some TV station in the south? I think he live-streamed his killings too.

by Anonymousreply 201March 15, 2019 5:03 AM

[quote] Shooter quotes Dylan Thomas' poem on his social media.

Just the one, dear?

by Anonymousreply 202March 15, 2019 5:03 AM

Depends on the mosque, r199. Many allow women, but have separate areas for men and women.

by Anonymousreply 203March 15, 2019 5:05 AM

Did he murder the chickens and the goats too?

by Anonymousreply 204March 15, 2019 5:07 AM

Nobody cares about your "blocked" list, r200.

by Anonymousreply 205March 15, 2019 5:08 AM

r147: What in the ever-loving fuck do crimes committed by Muslims in Europe have to do with this?

r196: He'd have to find someone willing to procreate with him.

r201: Vester Flannigan (Sp?). If I recall correctly, he didn't live stream his attack. He attacked while his two victims (a news anchor and cameraman) were in the middle of filming; I don't think they were live at the time.

by Anonymousreply 207March 15, 2019 5:08 AM

Fuck. I don't know how many videos or how long they are, but I watched a one minute video when he first entered the mosque. I'm speechless, my hands are shaking, and my heart is broken. Those poor people... completely helpless and afraid. Im lying in bed, alone, safe in my home and I am terrified.

by Anonymousreply 208March 15, 2019 5:08 AM

Is it true he gave that bitch Candace Owens a shoutout in his manifesto?

by Anonymousreply 209March 15, 2019 5:10 AM

This thread is too gloomy. Music time

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by Anonymousreply 210March 15, 2019 5:11 AM

Any info on the other 3 in custody yet (including the frau/fräulein)?

Can't find anything other than Tarrant stuff at this point. It does seem odd that BrentonT seems to have hooked on with others but there's no info by them out there too.

by Anonymousreply 211March 15, 2019 5:11 AM

Rupert Murdoch is to blame for white radicalization. He’s ruined politics multiple Western countries.

by Anonymousreply 212March 15, 2019 5:13 AM

R211 No, that's all the New Zealand police commissioner said in his press conference. 4 people under arrest (3 men, 1 woman) and they had IEDs attached to their cars which were disarmed.

by Anonymousreply 213March 15, 2019 5:14 AM

"There's always fanatics."

by Anonymousreply 214March 15, 2019 5:15 AM

R212 Sigh. There is no one person to blame. It's a series of events and policies.

by Anonymousreply 215March 15, 2019 5:15 AM

Will the Muslims retaliate?

by Anonymousreply 216March 15, 2019 5:16 AM

they said up to 30 dead! :(((((((((((((((

by Anonymousreply 217March 15, 2019 5:17 AM

It was in response to the person up thread who asked about the redtagged OP, r205.

Since this OP trolls with anti Muslim stuff it's probably useful to note that.

by Anonymousreply 218March 15, 2019 5:19 AM

R216, are you also R130?

by Anonymousreply 219March 15, 2019 5:18 AM

Don't watch the video. There's no need to and you're just doing the shooter's work for him.

by Anonymousreply 220March 15, 2019 5:19 AM

Op isn't redtagged, r218.

by Anonymousreply 221March 15, 2019 5:20 AM

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by Anonymousreply 222March 15, 2019 5:21 AM

Probably the first time I ever agreed with something Trump Jr said:

"Don’t give the POS NZ shooter what he wants. Don’t speak his name don’t show the footage. Seems that most agree on that. The questions is can the media do what’s right and pass up the ratings they’ll get by doing the opposite? I fear we all know the answer unfortunately."

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by Anonymousreply 223March 15, 2019 5:21 AM

What was in his crazy ranting? heard it was over 20 pages and don't link it. just give me the summary please, thanks!

by Anonymousreply 224March 15, 2019 5:22 AM

This Newshub page is continually updated with the latest news:

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by Anonymousreply 225March 15, 2019 5:23 AM

Well this took the death of Louis Tomlinson’s sister off the top of the DL.

by Anonymousreply 226March 15, 2019 5:23 AM

Anti immigration, pro-white supremacy stuff basically. The little part of the manifesto I saw on Twitter was in a faux Q&A format.

by Anonymousreply 227March 15, 2019 5:25 AM

I watched the video.

American here, and mass shootings are unfortunately all too common. I've naively thought that if I were ever in a place that was being attacked, I would somehow be able to escape, hide or fight back. Upon watching that video, and imagining myself in one of those poor souls' position, there is no doubt in my mind that I too wouldn't know what to do, and I would also suffer the same fate.

by Anonymousreply 228March 15, 2019 5:24 AM

[quote]Is it true he gave that bitch Candace Owens a shoutout in his manifesto?

Yes. He said she radicalized him but that some of her ideas went too far even for him. He also said Spyro the Dragon inspired him, so I think he was just taking the piss.

by Anonymousreply 229March 15, 2019 5:27 AM

The NY Times summarized gave this summary of the manifesto:

[quote]In his manifesto, he identified himself as a 28-year-old man born in Australia and listed his white nationalist heroes. He described what he said had motivated him to carry out the attack, and said he had purposely used guns to stir discord in the United States over the Second Amendment’s provision on the right to bear arms.

by Anonymousreply 230March 15, 2019 5:28 AM

That doesn't seem so weird, since a lot of these Extremely Online white supremacists watch tons of YT videos and talk all day long on on forums. They do probably have 50 different influences.

by Anonymousreply 231March 15, 2019 5:30 AM

Beware the Ides of March. SPOOKY!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 232March 15, 2019 5:31 AM

[quote] What's drone assassination?

It's when Lee Harvey Oswald shoots a male bee, Rose.

by Anonymousreply 233March 15, 2019 5:30 AM

[quote] Extremely Online

What’s that?

by Anonymousreply 234March 15, 2019 5:31 AM

Who are his white nationalist heroes? I want to read about the tragedy but I'm afraid I'll come across the videos. Is the NYT video free? Thanks

by Anonymousreply 235March 15, 2019 5:31 AM

Brenton Tarrant Great Replacement Manifesto

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by Anonymousreply 236March 15, 2019 5:32 AM

[quote]He also said Spyro the Dragon inspired him, so I think he was just taking the piss.

Goddamn him! Spyro is pure and innocent! He would NEVER inspire such wretchedness! *sob*

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by Anonymousreply 237March 15, 2019 5:33 AM

Fuck you’re stupid, R206. The terrorism today was done by a white Anglo immigrant to NZ, against Muslims. Not the other way around.

by Anonymousreply 238March 15, 2019 5:34 AM

I thought he did it because it was pie day. 3-14 = pewdiepie.

by Anonymousreply 239March 15, 2019 5:34 AM

It's the 15th in New Zealand, r239.

by Anonymousreply 240March 15, 2019 5:37 AM

R239, it happened on 15th of March in NZ.

by Anonymousreply 241March 15, 2019 5:37 AM

After watching the video, I can say the video showing Muslims actually murdering innocent French citizens was far more chilling. Hearing people screaming, automatic gun firing, people being shot dead point blank and Allah being screamed out as they were running through the streets will haunt me for forever. I'll never forget the people cowering in the homes watching the carnage occur down below in the street. Truly horrific.

by Anonymousreply 242March 15, 2019 5:37 AM

Did AOC create the cover of the manifesto @ R236?

by Anonymousreply 243March 15, 2019 5:38 AM

Kevin Roose of NYT: ‏ Media: be careful with the NZ shooter's apparent manifesto. It's thick with irony and meta-text and very easy to misinterpret if you're not steeped in this stuff all the time (and even if you are).

Seriously, this entire thing is a minefield. I am Very Online and I don't feel 100% certain about what's genuine and what's just trolling/posting/media-baiting. Please be careful.

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by Anonymousreply 244March 15, 2019 5:39 AM

R242 thinks only white people feel fear or pain.

by Anonymousreply 245March 15, 2019 5:41 AM

In the long version of the video somebody in the mosque tried to tackle him, r228, but he shot him. I always thought I might try and play dead, but the sick fuck shoots all of the bodies multiple times.

by Anonymousreply 246March 15, 2019 5:40 AM

In his manifesto, he said "The nation with the closet political and social values to my own is the People's Republic of China" About homophobe, he said "No, I simply do not care that much what gay people do. As long as they are loyal to their people and place their people well being first, then I have no issues"

by Anonymousreply 247March 15, 2019 5:44 AM

I didn't get to see that R248. I wish things would not get edited so we wouldn't be spared and can make our own informed opinions. No point shielding us unless you want to control the narrative yourself.

by Anonymousreply 248March 15, 2019 5:44 AM

[quote] I am Very Online

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by Anonymousreply 249March 15, 2019 5:43 AM

R246

by Anonymousreply 250March 15, 2019 5:44 AM

I am reading the manifesto and think that "Very Online" Kevin Roose is overestimating the obscurity of the references in it. I've read a lot of white nationalist stuff over the years (it's a weird interest of mine) and I'm an academic.

by Anonymousreply 251March 15, 2019 5:43 AM

R244’s tweeter trying to explain to old people what shitposting is.

by Anonymousreply 252March 15, 2019 5:45 AM

I see we've exported radicalized gun violence to other parts of he world. You're welcome New Zealand.

by Anonymousreply 253March 15, 2019 5:44 AM

So Kevin Roose shows his intellectual ineptitude yet again. Why is he employed again?

by Anonymousreply 254March 15, 2019 5:45 AM

Are you a supporter for DT? As a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose, sure. As a policy maker and leader, dear god no

by Anonymousreply 255March 15, 2019 5:45 AM

Oh no! Just heard about this. I was born/raised in NZ but live in Australia. Australian Broadcasting Corp news has switched over to following this story full time now. NZ TV1 has been interviewing people who were at the scene and they are saying that there were hundreds and hundreds of bullets. No-one is giving a death toll so it might be a quite large and shocking number.

My entire family still live in NZ (Auckland) and I know that NZ is considered a very safe, out of the way, innocuous country so they will be VERY shocked by this.

I'll just ring mum quickly and see what's going on.

by Anonymousreply 257March 15, 2019 5:46 AM

Jacinda might be feeling a tad bit guilty.

NZers have asked for immigration to be reduced, election after election, and have been promised it would - but instead the real numbers go up. Tensions are rising, and this is what happens.

I don't support violence at all, but this is what happens when some people are pushed too far.

Multiculturalism has failed.

by Anonymousreply 258March 15, 2019 5:47 AM

Jacinda is a lezbo correct?

by Anonymousreply 259March 15, 2019 5:48 AM

You gotta be really fucked up in the head to carry out mass murder. I saw the video, the level of viciousness was alarming, the terrorist literally went back inside at shot everyone again, multiple times. Sick fuck.

by Anonymousreply 260March 15, 2019 5:50 AM

Mosque witness said he shooter was light-skinned and was blond, but also said he was wearing a helmet?

by Anonymousreply 261March 15, 2019 5:50 AM

No R259. You fucking idiot. Did you fingers snap off so you can't google?

Husband and baby.

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by Anonymousreply 262March 15, 2019 5:52 AM

You sound like a deplorable R258. Multi-culturalism has not failed.

by Anonymousreply 263March 15, 2019 5:51 AM

What are the arguments AGAINST arming the police in NZ? As the police in the USA have shown in the more recent "second amendment freedom demonstrations" they are GOOD at stopping these things (such that they can be stopped after the initial carnage) and I want them armed, vested, and trained when they're going against these terrorists (yes, terrorists, regardless of ideology).

by Anonymousreply 264March 15, 2019 5:53 AM

r262 I don't know why i thought she was a lesbonic

by Anonymousreply 265March 15, 2019 5:53 AM

[quote] I don't support violence at all, but this is what happens when some people are pushed too far.

I don't support violence at all, but people who make comments like this deserve to die in a grease fire.

by Anonymousreply 266March 15, 2019 5:52 AM

R247, Perhaps the shooter's referring to China's extreme crackdown of Unguhr (sp) Muslims, closing Mosques, "retraining" adherents.

by Anonymousreply 267March 15, 2019 5:53 AM

We need to arm muslims eerrrrr no we don't need to arm muslims

by Anonymousreply 268March 15, 2019 5:55 AM

Just spoken to mum. They are expecting the death toll to be massive - towards 100 people dead plus injuries. That's why no-one is giving numbers.

The NZ PM says this:

"I'm not currently in a position to confirm the number of deaths or injuries but I have to acknowledge people can see images live from Christchurch.

"It will be obvious to them that this is a significant event and I can tell you now this is and will be one of New Zealand's darkest days. This is an extraordinary and unprecedented act of violence."

by Anonymousreply 269March 15, 2019 5:56 AM

The snippet that's still going around on twitter is after he goes back into to the mosque for another pass, r256. The full version shows him going into the mosque and gunning people down. After he leaves the first time he shoots a woman on the street and then walks up to her while she screaming for help and shoots her in the head.

On some level, hearing "Allahu Akbar" while murders are being committed is more horrible because it implies that that killing is what God wants. On the other hand, this fucker murdered innocents as well. I wonder if the other two men and the woman (!!) also killed people or were just accomplices. In his manifesto the main shooter seemed to state he worked alone.

by Anonymousreply 270March 15, 2019 5:56 AM

Jacinda Arden is a goddess.

She is a goddess on this which is 'the darkest day' in this small nation's history.

by Anonymousreply 271March 15, 2019 5:57 AM

[quote] crackdown of Unguhr (sp)

It’s Uighur please.

by Anonymousreply 272March 15, 2019 5:58 AM

R270 3 others were arrested so he couldn't have been acting alone

by Anonymousreply 273March 15, 2019 5:59 AM

Can someone post the full video, unedited so we can actually see the news and gain the full scope of what has happened. Even Liveleak has decided to censor themselves. Hypocrites.

by Anonymousreply 274March 15, 2019 5:59 AM

He announced his attack on a message board.

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by Anonymousreply 275March 15, 2019 6:00 AM

I think the comment about China is more about how China, Korea, and Japan do not have mass immigration. He talks about how diversity makes the West weak and the strength of China, etc. does not come from diversity. That's a pretty standard white nationalist talking point.

by Anonymousreply 276March 15, 2019 5:59 AM

So 4chan was involved, shut the site down

by Anonymousreply 277March 15, 2019 6:01 AM

Obviously, r273. But did they actually kill people or did they just provide help (transportation or something like that). In his manifesto the killer said he planned to hit two mosques, as quickly as possible so as not to kill innocent (white) people.

by Anonymousreply 278March 15, 2019 6:00 AM

The shooting lasted 10 -15 minutes apparently. Car bombs defused.

4 in custody - 3 men and 1 woman. Around 100 dead and hundreds injured seriously and death toll expected to climb.

by Anonymousreply 279March 15, 2019 6:02 AM

I will not watch the video under and circumstances. I feel sad for those killed and their families, also for the locals. NZ does not have the resources to fight this kind of problem. It's unprecedented and not part of their psyche. RIP to those killed.

by Anonymousreply 280March 15, 2019 6:01 AM

R279 I really hope the fatality count doesn't exceed the Las Vegas shooting.

by Anonymousreply 281March 15, 2019 6:02 AM

Did the cops shoot him?

by Anonymousreply 282March 15, 2019 6:03 AM

The killer said ""Remember lads, subscribe to Pewdiepie".

I know nothing about this good looking Scandinavian; is 'Pewdiepie' an anti-Islamist?

by Anonymousreply 283March 15, 2019 6:03 AM

I can’t imagine 100 dead. I hope this doesn’t inspire copycats here in the US to Live Stream mass shootings.

by Anonymousreply 284March 15, 2019 6:03 AM

wow, why didn't they off themselves?

by Anonymousreply 285March 15, 2019 6:05 AM

R279 - where are you getting that stat (of 100)?

Reuters says nine to 29

by Anonymousreply 286March 15, 2019 6:05 AM

R282 I believe all the perpetrators (four total) were captured alive

by Anonymousreply 287March 15, 2019 6:06 AM

Where do you see reports of 100 dead?

by Anonymousreply 288March 15, 2019 6:05 AM

[italic]"NZ does not have the resources to fight this kind of problem. It's unprecedented and not part of their psyche. RIP to those killed".[/italic]

Nailed it R280. This is a completely alien and unfathomable act for New Zealanders to comprehend. It's too shocking to digest for NZ as a country.

by Anonymousreply 289March 15, 2019 6:07 AM

Based on the first video, 100 seems high unless a lot died at the second mosque or some bomb went off. It looked like he shot 25-30 people at the first mosque, but when he went back some were gone so they were playing dead.

by Anonymousreply 290March 15, 2019 6:06 AM

Four perpetrators? I've only seen one shooter and that's at least 30 people.

by Anonymousreply 291March 15, 2019 6:08 AM

In the creep's manifesto, he actually states he intends to be taken alive and to plead "not guilty" to stand up for white people. I wonder if he will be judged insane or not. Not at all to defend him, but he states he was in Sweden during one of the Muslim terror attacks and hearing about a small child that was murdered caused him to snap.

by Anonymousreply 292March 15, 2019 6:08 AM

The video only shows one guy doing the shooting and there didn't appear to be a hundred people in the mosque. Was there another shooting at a different mosque?

by Anonymousreply 293March 15, 2019 6:08 AM

This will probably be used by the (American) NRA as further "proof" that it's not guns that kill people, it's people. :-{

Didn't NZ and Australia scale back on all such weapons? They were an emblem of how low the death rate had become because of it, too.

by Anonymousreply 294March 15, 2019 6:09 AM

R293 Yes, but the 100 figure is false

by Anonymousreply 295March 15, 2019 6:10 AM

R291 There were two different shootings ("A mosque on Deans Ave and another on Linwood Ave have been confirmed as shooting sites. "

by Anonymousreply 296March 15, 2019 6:10 AM

100 dead would be a shock for any country- even the US. Sadly, 29 is business as usual with these affairs. We have become so desensitized as a society to these mass shootings, that as horrific as they are, many people will move on quickly. After Sandy Hook, Las Vegas, Paris, I don’t know what will snap the world out of its stupor.

by Anonymousreply 297March 15, 2019 6:11 AM

PewDiePie cozies up to white supremacists, and he has the "subscribe to PewDiePie" catchphrase (started when someone from India surpassed his YT subscriber count, IIRC) which people say in the same way Stern fans used to say "bababooey."

Beyond that we can only speculate as to why the shooter said it. Trolling, shitposting IRL, or an actual message? Who knows.

by Anonymousreply 298March 15, 2019 6:11 AM

Don't demonize Anglo-Saxons!

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by Anonymousreply 299March 15, 2019 6:14 AM

Twitter is certainly working overtime yanking videos down. They are literally being taken down in seconds. Anyway, if you didn't see the video be glad. I only watched the initial livestream because as I said earlier, I didn't think it was real. But now I do wish I hadn't, especially the woman begging for help that he murders.

by Anonymousreply 300March 15, 2019 6:14 AM

It’s looking like lowlifes like Trump Jr. and Ben Shapiro are pushing the “We mustn’t make the shooter famous!” plea. If the races had been reversed, it would be a whole different sentiment.

by Anonymousreply 301March 15, 2019 6:15 AM

I'm picturing a sweatshop in India scouring Twitter, YouTube and Facebook deleting videos.

by Anonymousreply 302March 15, 2019 6:17 AM

In 1996 Australia banned various semi-automatic guns R294. NZ did not because it wasn't necessary.

The up to 100 dead figure is what's being said by authorities in NZ at the moment. Listen to the language the authorities are using. They haven't released the numbers because people are still dying . Two attacks and authorities are concerned there may be more scenes undiscovered/more IUD devices. That's what my family are telling me and they aren't hysterical types. They say the whole country has come to a stop. Roads are quiet and nobody really outside. It's late night shopping in Auckland right now and apparently Queen Street is like a ghost town - everyone is at home and it's at the other end of the country.

Authorities also don't believe that it is 100% over or that the 4 are the only perps.

That's all I know. And it may be wrong - let's hope so.

I desperately hope it is only 29 but that number will still be very shocking for NZ - even 10 people dead would be terribly shocking. That's probably very difficult for Americans to understand.

by Anonymousreply 303March 15, 2019 6:20 AM

R298 Thank you for that information.

The world of video-games is foreign. I can't believe kids play games where they aim to shoot as many people as possible.

by Anonymousreply 304March 15, 2019 6:20 AM

R303 IUD ?

by Anonymousreply 305March 15, 2019 6:21 AM

bombs R305.

by Anonymousreply 306March 15, 2019 6:21 AM

I’d be surprised if he had accomplices. Especially a woman, I bet this guy has never talked to a woman, much less convinced one to join his little club.

by Anonymousreply 307March 15, 2019 6:22 AM

R305 IEDs

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by Anonymousreply 308March 15, 2019 6:22 AM

Oh dear to myself - typo in my haste to type that out -

Apologies - should have read IED. Improvised explosive device.

by Anonymousreply 309March 15, 2019 6:22 AM

One killer is woman. Equal opportunity!

by Anonymousreply 310March 15, 2019 6:23 AM

I’m going to avoid New Zealand because of the gun violence there.

by Anonymousreply 311March 15, 2019 6:24 AM

There's another amateur video out there, only a few seconds long which shows 2 other suspects includng the woman holding weapons before both quickly moving away in separate directions.

It was posted in the Live Leak comment section before the clip was edited and comments closed.

by Anonymousreply 312March 15, 2019 6:24 AM

where do they get IEDs? they make them? WTF?

by Anonymousreply 313March 15, 2019 6:25 AM

Will this affect tourism in NZ? Have planes been grounded?

by Anonymousreply 314March 15, 2019 6:25 AM

40 confirmed dead with at least a further 27 critically injured.

by Anonymousreply 315March 15, 2019 6:26 AM

R303 Oh, get ya hand off it Daryl, calm the fuck down Mary!

Now confirmed 30 killed

by Anonymousreply 316March 15, 2019 6:27 AM

R314 at this stage only domestic departures have been grounded.

by Anonymousreply 317March 15, 2019 6:27 AM

Oh no. Where else can I find Maori men ?

by Anonymousreply 318March 15, 2019 6:28 AM

R314 Following the tragedy in #Christchurch, the remainder of regional departures from Christchurch Friday evening have been cancelled. This is because it is not possible to screen customers and their baggage.

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by Anonymousreply 319March 15, 2019 6:28 AM

Where are some of you finding these death toll numbers? CNN is not reporting anything except multiple deaths

by Anonymousreply 320March 15, 2019 6:30 AM

The Guardian just sent out a news alert. 40 are confirmed dead.

by Anonymousreply 321March 15, 2019 6:31 AM

I hope the bastards don't get away with this. It is all Trumps fault.

by Anonymousreply 322March 15, 2019 6:30 AM

Here's a link to the Guardian's live blog.

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by Anonymousreply 323March 15, 2019 6:31 AM

R320 the PM is giving a live TV briefing.

by Anonymousreply 324March 15, 2019 6:31 AM

Yes r313, they make them, hence the name "improvised explosive device".

by Anonymousreply 325March 15, 2019 6:31 AM

Get your own fucking hand off it R316. Are you talking to your family and friends in NZ right at the moment??? I'm just reporting what I'm told.

30 killed? 40 killed? 100 killed? I guess we will have to wait until Jacinta announces it.

One thing I will repeat is that any of those numbers are going to be very shocking for New Zealand to deal with. I can't think of a safer place in the world and hopefully this won't change their psyche too much.

by Anonymousreply 326March 15, 2019 6:31 AM

Jacinda I meant.

She just said 40 dead/20 injured on TV. That's massive.

by Anonymousreply 327March 15, 2019 6:33 AM

Jacinta has already announced 40 deaths and another 27 very critical. Death toll unfortunately will be rising.

by Anonymousreply 328March 15, 2019 6:33 AM

R324 Livestream of briefing

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by Anonymousreply 329March 15, 2019 6:33 AM

Jacinda is amazing. I’m so glad to have her as my PM.

by Anonymousreply 330March 15, 2019 6:34 AM

40 confirmed dead

by Anonymousreply 331March 15, 2019 6:35 AM

Strange song on the killer's playlist.

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by Anonymousreply 332March 15, 2019 6:35 AM

R326 I am in NZ you overly dramatic queen, chill the fuck out, and only 3 people have been arrested, our PM just stated

by Anonymousreply 333March 15, 2019 6:36 AM

r333 What's it like living in New Zealand?

by Anonymousreply 334March 15, 2019 6:37 AM

Now they are saying 3 people are in custody (1 principle, 2 associates)

by Anonymousreply 335March 15, 2019 6:37 AM

R334 Slow, sweet, like a first love

by Anonymousreply 336March 15, 2019 6:39 AM

What is the "New Zealand psyche?" And who the fuck talks about national psyches in 2019? Didn't that kind of antiquated thinking die out 50 years ago?

by Anonymousreply 337March 15, 2019 6:40 AM

R337 No, she is talking about 'who we are' now. I guess as we are a small country we do still have a presumed group view, not sure if that is the reality

Cops will try to use this to arm up, but we will fight that stupidity

by Anonymousreply 338March 15, 2019 6:41 AM

Do they have the insanity defense in NZ? Death penalty? Life in prison with isolation?

by Anonymousreply 339March 15, 2019 6:40 AM

Jacinda's going to have to do some work now, instead of galavanting around the world, talking babies, and lying about making housing affordable in NZ and reducing immigration.

by Anonymousreply 340March 15, 2019 6:41 AM

Ok - I'll leave you to it then R333. Glad you know so much better than everyone else and enjoy insulting other posters. Why don't you just go fuck yourself.

Today might have been a good time for NZers to be kind to each other but just go fuck yourself.

Your post made me think to myself - why the fuck am I even bothering to post here with you bunch of cunts? I'll go talk to my family.

by Anonymousreply 341March 15, 2019 6:42 AM

Ban all the Australian immigrants!

by Anonymousreply 342March 15, 2019 6:43 AM

R339 No death penalty, life in prison is only ever like 15-20 years here

R340 Oh jog on

by Anonymousreply 343March 15, 2019 6:45 AM

[quote]They say the whole country has come to a stop. Roads are quiet and nobody really outside. It's late night shopping in Auckland right now and apparently Queen Street is like a ghost town - everyone is at home and it's at the other end of the country.

I was just having dinner with a friend on High Street and can assure you that the Auckland CBD was not a "ghost town," at least as of half an hour ago. Your relatives are exaggerating.

by Anonymousreply 344March 15, 2019 6:45 AM

R341, Please do not take the comments of just one poster to reflect the attitudes of all of DL. Immediately I knew the death toll would unfortunately rise due to the seriousness of the many shot multiple times.

by Anonymousreply 345March 15, 2019 6:46 AM

The 3 suspects weren't on any watchlists

by Anonymousreply 346March 15, 2019 6:47 AM

Will ISIS revenge ?

by Anonymousreply 347March 15, 2019 6:47 AM

NZ should build a wall to keep the Aussies out.

by Anonymousreply 348March 15, 2019 6:47 AM

r341 Mary!

by Anonymousreply 349March 15, 2019 6:47 AM

Oh Gods, Hilary Barry just said 'the nation just lost her innocence'.....and is now crying. Toughen up buttercup

by Anonymousreply 350March 15, 2019 6:49 AM

The running cop they keep showing is a cutie.

by Anonymousreply 351March 15, 2019 6:48 AM

40 confirmed dead (30 at Deans Ave mosque and 10 at Linwood Ave mosque)

by Anonymousreply 352March 15, 2019 6:51 AM

R350 and it turns out she's an insatiable bottom! New Zealand, that is.

by Anonymousreply 353March 15, 2019 6:51 AM

According to eyewitness, shooter was fully helmeted and dressed like a police officer

by Anonymousreply 354March 15, 2019 6:51 AM

R334 Think of a small shanty town and imagine its 1930. It's a miserable shit heap. Why do you think so many flee to Australia.

by Anonymousreply 355March 15, 2019 6:51 AM

R352 12 operating theaters going, eeek

by Anonymousreply 356March 15, 2019 6:52 AM

Dressed like a SWAT guy

by Anonymousreply 357March 15, 2019 6:52 AM

The gay porn industry should hire more young straight white men to prevent such horrible attacks.

by Anonymousreply 358March 15, 2019 6:53 AM

R339 only uncivilised countries retain the death penalty in 2019.

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by Anonymousreply 359March 15, 2019 6:54 AM

R355 This

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by Anonymousreply 360March 15, 2019 6:55 AM

People watching this entertainment as it unfolds should be ashamed of themselves.

by Anonymousreply 361March 15, 2019 6:57 AM

LATEST: 48 patients with gunshot wounds are being treated at Christchurch Hospital after coordinated terrorist shootings in New Zealand, Chief Executive of Canterbury District Health Board says

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by Anonymousreply 362March 15, 2019 6:57 AM

Typed the virtue signaller eagerly adding her 2 cents worth.

by Anonymousreply 363March 15, 2019 6:59 AM

[quote]Why do you think so many flee to Australia.

Better weather and generous dole and benefits.

by Anonymousreply 364March 15, 2019 7:02 AM

Oh god, there's a mother and father older couple who left Iraq 22 years ago anxiously and in tears trying to find their son. My heart breaks for these poor people, why do these monsters do this?!

by Anonymousreply 365March 15, 2019 7:03 AM

R365 That was tough to watch. My heart goes out to them.

by Anonymousreply 366March 15, 2019 7:04 AM

On the Newshub live feed. Its so sad because their son is most likely dead.

by Anonymousreply 367March 15, 2019 7:05 AM

R337 r350 Yeah I agree. This event is absolutely atrocious and traumatic for new zealanders but I've never believed the line about nations "losing their innocence ". I didn't believe it when it was said about America after 9 11 either. To be fair new Zealand is a smaller and less dysfunctional country than ours but still.

by Anonymousreply 368March 15, 2019 7:06 AM

[quote] I agree. Comparing horror to horror, the French video was more terrifying. The NZ video I saw was mostly the killer repeatedly pumping bullets into people already dead.

Are you two idiots starting Rotten Tomatoes for snuff films or WTF is your problem? The French and NZ attacks are equally horrific; who cares which video you found scarier?

by Anonymousreply 369March 15, 2019 7:07 AM

How did the shooter get the guns into the country?

by Anonymousreply 370March 15, 2019 7:09 AM

R369 Calm down Betty Lou. No one asked you how many stars were each video.

by Anonymousreply 371March 15, 2019 7:09 AM

R206 is a complete monster and she should be in police custody. We do not have problems with Muslims, we have problems with White Supremiciat.

by Anonymousreply 372March 15, 2019 7:10 AM

The killer did his research. Friday prayer is the holiest day for Muslims. It's like the Pittsburgh shooter a few months ago who shot up a synagogue on Saturday.

Tech companies need to be addressing this. With all the infringement of privacy done to us these days, how are they unable to track down radicalized men researching how to kill and stockpiling weapons purchased online? How do male misfits get so indoctrinated and radicalized by the Internet to become terrorists? That goes for Jihadis as well. The Internet was valued so much by this guy he live streamed this attack and plugged a website. The Internet and video games are creating a whole new breed of antisocial assassins

by Anonymousreply 373March 15, 2019 7:11 AM

R372 Stop being a wailing MARY.

by Anonymousreply 374March 15, 2019 7:13 AM

I wonder if the woman terrorist is the guys girlfriend or something.

by Anonymousreply 375March 15, 2019 7:12 AM

[quote]NZers have asked for immigration to be reduced, election after election, and have been promised it would - but instead the real numbers go up.

Obviously, they should have reduced the number by one—the immigrant who conducted the attack.

by Anonymousreply 376March 15, 2019 7:14 AM

R206 isn't a woman, R372. Can the "she."

by Anonymousreply 377March 15, 2019 7:15 AM

R370 A lot of the gangs in Nz supply guns to people. And the gangs these days are purely about profit. They don't care if you are a tatted up mob member or a white supremacist as long as you have the money they will provide

by Anonymousreply 378March 15, 2019 7:15 AM

R372, honestly, as a gay man, I have problems with both. They both hate us

by Anonymousreply 379March 15, 2019 7:16 AM

Gangbang Pornography on the Internet has also warped many male brains into thinking raping women is okay. The video games have warped many male brains into thinking shooting and killing for sport is okay.

Conservative talking heads and President Trump have warped many male brains into thinking they are at war with Islam and immigrants.

by Anonymousreply 380March 15, 2019 7:19 AM

[quote]We do not have problems with Muslims,

Neither do we

by Anonymousreply 381March 15, 2019 7:19 AM

Your can’t defend democracy out one side of your mouth, r372, and then suggest out the other side that someone should be in police custody for making an offensive remark on DL. R206 is a deplorable asshole, but get a grip already.

by Anonymousreply 382March 15, 2019 7:19 AM

Pretty Jacinta says "this is and will be ONE of New Zealand's darkest days."

She doesn't include the inter-tribal Maori wars when uncounted hundreds were killed ... and EATEN.

by Anonymousreply 383March 15, 2019 7:20 AM

[quote]Conservative talking heads and President Trump have warped many male brains into thinking they are at war with Islam and immigrants.

"Progessive" talking heads, media, educational institutions and Islam have warped many brains into thinking that they are at war with Jews. . . uh. . . "Zionists" . . . uh . . . "Israelis".

by Anonymousreply 384March 15, 2019 7:24 AM

A version of the shooter's video is now on the net with rock music added. It's actually pretty indistinguishable from any other shooter game video.

by Anonymousreply 385March 15, 2019 7:25 AM

R384, yeah, like the progressive talking heads on CNN or MSNBC are just going after Zionists on primetime. Looks like you need to get a grip.

The synagogue shooter was one huuge progressive, right? He was a Trump rightwing deplorable. Hillary was so right to call right wingers that because that's exactly what they are

by Anonymousreply 386March 15, 2019 7:27 AM

[quote]Stop being a wailing MARY.

Go troll elsewhere, fuckface.

This thread is wall-to-wall trolls, OP included. What a shitshow DL is lately.

by Anonymousreply 387March 15, 2019 7:31 AM

R386 I suspect the shooter was unacquainted with sophistry of Left-wing versus Right wing;

He stated he was unhappy with "The Invaders",

by Anonymousreply 388March 15, 2019 7:33 AM

[quote]A version of the shooter's video is now on the net with rock music added

The shooter's social media, manifesto and video are all basically propaganda, and now someone has added music to it to make it more palatable, and to feed into the media-driven narrative that this was just some mentally ill white guy affected adversely by video games.

It's not. It's a white supremacist who was radicalized online, but no one wants to talk about that. They want to talk about how much this looks like a video game.

Don't spread propaganda, guys.

by Anonymousreply 389March 15, 2019 7:33 AM

Oh far worse than that R386. Those "progressives" are excusing and defending bigots.

In your feverish sprint to deflect, you conveniently forget that the Omar Mateen, the murderer of 52 gay community members, was a registered DEMOCRAT.

It's HIGHLY hypocritical to demonize one when the other is equally DEPLORABLE.

by Anonymousreply 390March 15, 2019 7:34 AM

[quote]She doesn't include the inter-tribal Maori wars when uncounted hundreds were killed ... and EATEN.

There's a wonderful book whose name escapes me describing Maori inter-tribal warfare and detailing how one tribe, after butchering its rivals, carried back 66 baskets full of rival body parts for its victory feast.

by Anonymousreply 391March 15, 2019 7:37 AM

^ Life was so much more visceral in those days.

Our lives are so blancmange!

by Anonymousreply 392March 15, 2019 7:44 AM

Here's footage of the shooter being arrested.

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by Anonymousreply 393March 15, 2019 7:46 AM

I'll be surprised if anyone can answer this but the attack video i saw several hours ago had audio of some Arabic song. Though not understanding a single word of the message it actually sounded good. Almost Gaelic. Would anyone know what that song was ?

by Anonymousreply 394March 15, 2019 7:46 AM

I would much rather have a Muslim as a neighbor, instead of a White Supremacist.

by Anonymousreply 395March 15, 2019 7:54 AM

How will an Australian be tried in NZ?

I'm Australian and know in most aspects (right to seek local employment, health benefits, unemployment and social benefits) it's pretty much reciprocal.

Can any NZ/Oz legal eagles chime in here please?

Also - Brenton Tarrant and 2 accomplices at the Dean St mosque - do we know if a woman is still part of this shooting gallery?

by Anonymousreply 396March 15, 2019 7:56 AM

R394 Was it this song? If so, it's an anthem called "Serbian Strong", also known as "Remove Kebab". It originally started as anti-Turkish propaganda but has become associated with the ethnic cleansing of Muslims.

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by Anonymousreply 397March 15, 2019 7:57 AM

Unlike the wallpaper of wailing me-too Marys and virtue signallers, one lone honest poster on Reddit (who wished the video to be banned), admitted:

" I was thoroughly entertained and enthralled by the action in the video."

And, unlike the gruesome beheading videos, it actually is. Mass murder as entertainment, smoothly filmed on a Go-Pro, with almost no blood. No wonder they're desperately suppressing it. Teenagers and every second gamer would find it gripping. One senses the adrenalin rush ("Heck: killing was fun!") that soldiers sometimes admit to. And this put you in the box seat. So quite a dangerous video because it is so fascinating.

by Anonymousreply 398March 15, 2019 8:01 AM

Thoughts and prayers

by Anonymousreply 399March 15, 2019 8:01 AM

"Pewdiepie" has been repeatedly told that the sites he promotes are white supremacist, NeoNazi sites and he hasn't stopped.

He knew exactly what he was doing.

Can he please just kill himself? What a piece of Swedish shit.

by Anonymousreply 400March 15, 2019 8:04 AM

what about their parents and families? They share the same view? And why the fuck didn't they kill themselves? I thought they usually do?

by Anonymousreply 401March 15, 2019 8:05 AM

49 deaths being reported now. 41 at one mosque, 7 at another, and one at the hospital.

by Anonymousreply 402March 15, 2019 8:07 AM

The guy in the video at R393 sounds special.

by Anonymousreply 403March 15, 2019 8:07 AM

My guess is they didn't kill themselves because they're hoping the media circus around their trial will let them push their white supremacist propaganda.

by Anonymousreply 404March 15, 2019 8:07 AM

Senator Anning said the attacks highlighted the “growing fear over an increasing Muslim presence” in Australian and New Zealand communities.

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by Anonymousreply 405March 15, 2019 8:09 AM

I like how R398 thinks you're a "virtue signaler" if you don't think there's any reason to spread white supremacist propaganda.

"Wow, what a fun and fascinating video showing other disaffected white people that killing is fun and bloodless and totally entertaining and cool! You big MARYS don't understand it, not like me and the other totally awesome straight guys on Reddit."

Big yawn. Go try Fisher Price's My First Trolling Forum, R398. That seems more your speed.

by Anonymousreply 406March 15, 2019 8:10 AM

49 dead R7

by Anonymousreply 407March 15, 2019 8:11 AM

Why are you watching the video? You're doing exactly what these monsters want you to do.

by Anonymousreply 408March 15, 2019 8:13 AM

He described his reasons for the disgusting attack as to “show the invaders that our lands will never be their lands, our homelands are our own and that, as long as a white man still lives, they will NEVER conquer our lands and they will never replace our people”.

Vile, disgusting and doesn’t know history.

by Anonymousreply 409March 15, 2019 8:13 AM

^ Are you being ironic?

Do you think the Islamic "invaders" will replace our people?

by Anonymousreply 410March 15, 2019 8:17 AM

Thank you r397. No that's not the song. That Serb song is almost a polka.

I deliberately didn't link the facebook video that included the song in question being unsure if the management would allow the sight of several shootings.

Tough to ask people to ID a song they can't at least hear a snippet from.

Thank you very much for trying.

by Anonymousreply 411March 15, 2019 8:17 AM

R409 No doubt First Nations in American and Canada, Aboriginals in Australia and Maoris in New Zealand expressed similar outrage about White invaders.

by Anonymousreply 412March 15, 2019 8:17 AM

R387 You got triggered. Calling someone immature names because you got called out on your bullshit. Hypocrite and a bully.

Thanks for making me laugh with your over the top hysterics though.

by Anonymousreply 413March 15, 2019 8:19 AM

R406 gets the SJW "Gross Mischaracterisation & Putting Words In People's Mouths" Award of the day. Excellent. work, Sister. Why read, or reflect, when you can rant.

by Anonymousreply 414March 15, 2019 8:19 AM

R412 What about the Morioris (you know, actually in NZ before the Maoris, and were slain by the Maoris)?

by Anonymousreply 415March 15, 2019 8:22 AM

[quote] How will an Australian be tried in NZ? I'm Australian and know in most aspects (right to seek local employment, health benefits, unemployment and social benefits) it's pretty much reciprocal.

If he's lived in NZ for two years or more he'll probably be tried as a NZ resident, because of the Trans-Tasman Arrangement.

by Anonymousreply 416March 15, 2019 8:23 AM

Inshallah, they go to paradise

by Anonymousreply 417March 15, 2019 8:27 AM

R383 but if it's intertribal, it's all in the family. That's ok.

by Anonymousreply 418March 15, 2019 8:27 AM

R398 - yes I agree. I was surprised how fascinating I found it. Wondered afterwards a little at myself that I didn't feel a 'sickened'as I should since it's not a heightened video the way the Paris/Bataclan stuff was.

I only reacted to the headship but. But yes iit surprisingly 'bloodless'box-seat killing vision.

It did make me understand more of the mindset of practiced killers (military) who maybe cope or are de-sensitised owing to some othering of their targets.

That Reddit guy is right - it's enthralling and you do have a sense of the thrill adrenalin that may very well surge in a real situation. i've never seen that before Nov understood that feeling. Now I do a little more.

I could watch this vision in a way that I could not stomach gore and blood and bear attacks type stuff. I can see why its being pulled as soon as they can and Tarrant was on the money. Like Brevik or Klebold types - that vision isn't going anywhere and the "14 words" or "88" lot will be lapping it up for years ahead.

There WILL be copycats without question.

by Anonymousreply 419March 15, 2019 8:29 AM

Judging from his manifesto, it seems like he hasn’t been in NZ long. “ I only arrived to NZ to live temporarily whilst I planned and trained...” will be interesting to see how this plays out.

by Anonymousreply 420March 15, 2019 8:29 AM

Is the shooter HAWT??

by Anonymousreply 421March 15, 2019 8:31 AM

Thank You R416

by Anonymousreply 422March 15, 2019 8:33 AM

His manifesto also said he would be jailed for 37 years as punishment.

It seems Mandela was jailed for that time.

by Anonymousreply 423March 15, 2019 8:33 AM

The outright admiration for a white supremacist terrorist who just killed dozens of people at posts like R419 and R389 is pretty concerning.

You're being radicalized and desensitized right now, and you don't care? It's just a big shrug to you? Or you don't even notice, and now that it's been pointed out, you'll double down and defend it, maybe?

by Anonymousreply 424March 15, 2019 8:37 AM

[quote]Is the shooter HAWT??

At last. The most important question. Thank you.

The shooter, Mr Tarrant, is, as DL defines: "fit fat". That naturally puts him in the DL eldergay desideratum of SMOKING. Hawt.

One would presume DL's tireless photo researchers are working round the clock to address the next most important question. And you what that is.

by Anonymousreply 425March 15, 2019 8:39 AM

[quote]His manifesto also said he would be jailed for 37 years as punishment. It seems Mandela was jailed for that time.

Delusions of grandeur and persecution complex coupled with shitposting, it seems. A lot of these "it's just a joke, I'm just shitposting" guys are really insecure, and will say things they truly mean but fall back on "just a joke" as an excuse if their posts aren't met with immediate praise.

Not my finest hour, but 15 years ago when it was new, I posted shit on 4chan (which was basically like Datalounge is now, in terms of trolls and utter crap) and noticed within a few months that the tone went from "here's something stupid, oh you don't like it, here's more stupid stuff" to "here's something stupid, if you don't like it that's okay because I totally meant for it to be stupid and not enjoyed, please like me."

by Anonymousreply 426March 15, 2019 8:43 AM

I think this is him - might have to scroll down to second video.

He looks old - 30-something? Actually kinda looks like George W Bush

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by Anonymousreply 427March 15, 2019 8:45 AM

[quote]You're being radicalized and desensitized right now, and you don't care?

LOL!

by Anonymousreply 428March 15, 2019 8:47 AM

[quote]What is the "New Zealand psyche?" And who the fuck talks about national psyches in 2019? Didn't that kind of antiquated thinking die out 50 years ago?

Why is national psyche such a negative thing?

by Anonymousreply 429March 15, 2019 8:46 AM

Did Mandela kill people before his 37 year sentence?

by Anonymousreply 430March 15, 2019 8:47 AM

R427 He looks like a lot of perpetually angry white trash guys I have known. The funny thing is most of these guys aren't even that bad off financially, but they are still full of rage and bitterness. They also tend to post heavily on reddit.

by Anonymousreply 431March 15, 2019 8:50 AM

What's the word for it? Post modernism? Age of irony? Whatever it is, we're seeing it very clearly in this guy's manifesto. His use of internet memes, reference to PewDiePie, and dead serious white nationalist sentiments make for a very specific and current document.

by Anonymousreply 432March 15, 2019 8:50 AM

[quote]Why is national psyche such a negative thing?

It's not. That was an SJW doing her thing.

The NZ national psyche is, in two words: "Incredibly provincial". They have very thin skins, are not the least bit sophisticated. And can never have enough Fern art. Visit the place and you'll understand. On the plus side, they're not aggressive like Australians. On the negative, they're bigger drinkers, and deeply boring, in the way nice people often are.

by Anonymousreply 433March 15, 2019 8:51 AM

Actually the NZ national psyche is: Smug. Then append the deeply provincial bit to it. Their Prime Minster encapsulates it, in the same manner as Trudeau. They do have lots to be smug about, but the fact they are highly conscious of it, erases any charm.

by Anonymousreply 434March 15, 2019 8:54 AM

A national psyche is a fine thing to have in a healthy society. It's this "sovereign citizen" bullshit where people want no rules to follow, and no punishments to apply to them but to still enjoy the freedoms when it suits them that are making functioning societies rot. Selfish cunts.

by Anonymousreply 435March 15, 2019 8:54 AM

R427 I’m sure that’s not him. He’s only 27 and that guy looks way older. Besides his face has nene photoshopped into the image.

by Anonymousreply 436March 15, 2019 9:10 AM

This is supposed to be the same man, taken from a different era. It looks like it could be the same person.

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by Anonymousreply 437March 15, 2019 9:18 AM

Interesting article, r437. There's always one person who says of a mass killer "he was so nice, he cared about kids/pets/whatever."

And the guy apparently looked older than his years for a very long time.

by Anonymousreply 438March 15, 2019 9:30 AM

I hate to say it, but Muslims living in Australia and New Zealand (especially very pious ones) are having a much more difficult time gaining position in our societies, in the same way they have done in Europe and to a far lessor extent in the U.S.A because they are moving over a bit late in the development to support the numbers they are doing at present.

If you remember, we have had waves of immigrants coming over here at critical times in our development, and many have hard times adjusting but most usually stick it out a couple of generations and they are fine.

We have had Chinese immigration for over 100 years now (mostly concentrated in the past 50) in big numbers and most of the start-up positions that have been traditionally filled by 1st generation immigrants (like restaurants, shop keeping and taxi driving) have already been taken up here by Chinese, who are seen as go-getters and have taken over the middle class position that was occupied by Italian and Greek immigrants before them.

by Anonymousreply 439March 15, 2019 9:39 AM

I am not the poster @ R428 fyi R424.

I would disagree with you that my post expresses "outright admiration". I thought it more honest to explain my fascination having seen the vision. Yes, I do agree with your point, which I noted in my post in fact, as to the 'de-sensitised' responseover which I was slightly discomfited by in myself.

I think it is a useful exercise to not be naive, not hide your head in the sand over such things. Yes, I did seek out the vision. I have worked in job roles which have required an extremely impersonal demeanour in order to function and operate rationally. I do not ttake offense at your imputation as to my mindset of attitude here.

Rather, I am glad to know a bit more about:

1) the circumstances in this story (I am.Australian and we have a Federal election this year and some issues arising in this developing story are part of our current culture wars and political agenda mongering in our media and by various PTB);

2) my own response (mediated - by definition) which WAS troubling - and for that I am glad: and

3) what a real world situation must be like for some individuals- not every serving soldier returns from active service with PTSD for example.I find that interesting and not necessarily 'admirable', but still part of the human spectrum.

If you feel this to be a 'defense' or 'doubling down' R424 so be it. I beg to differ.

As an Australian, I assure you, we will not be able to escape this horrific event in it's local regional cultural ramifications and coverage in coming days and surely weeks depending the other accomplices or Tarrant's residency and it's legal fall-out. I'd rather know what we are up against than not. I don't believe an honest response is expressing affinity.

I do 'care', since you ask.

by Anonymousreply 440March 15, 2019 10:06 AM

Muslims aren’t fitting in in these countries because they can’t let the baggage of the old country go. In this case, religious fanaticism that is looked upon with much suspicion by most Western societies apart from the Jesus-thumping USA. You don’t hear about previous generations of immigrants to Oz/NZ having brought their homeland crap with them. (With the exception of those from the Balkans). These are secular societies, once immigrant Muslims accept that they will do just fine.

by Anonymousreply 441March 15, 2019 10:26 AM

Is it terrorism if a white guy does it?

by Anonymousreply 442March 15, 2019 10:34 AM
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by Anonymousreply 443March 15, 2019 10:36 AM

Funny how people are already going to the tried and true “He had mental problems” excuse.

That’s white privilege

by Anonymousreply 444March 15, 2019 10:36 AM

Go directly to paradise like the Pulse shooter and Boston Marathon islamic terrorists, as promised by the islamic god for killing infidels, R417?

by Anonymousreply 445March 15, 2019 10:38 AM

[quote]Is it terrorism if a white guy does it?

Absolutely. He also admitted that this was a terrorist act in his manifesto.

by Anonymousreply 446March 15, 2019 10:38 AM

Which was the first such mass shooting ?

by Anonymousreply 447March 15, 2019 10:40 AM

R439 You say they "are having a much more difficult time gaining position in our societies".

I agree with R441 that they don't seem to want to get into the society of the land they choose to come to. It's not easy talking with someone who refuses to learn the language or who wears a black covering over their eyes and mouth.

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by Anonymousreply 448March 15, 2019 10:42 AM

"Bu, bu, but Jussie."

by Anonymousreply 449March 15, 2019 10:49 AM

As an Australian - My deepest appologies to any Kiwi on The Lounge, sorry we let one of our ratbags into your country. You don't deserve this, nobody does.

by Anonymousreply 450March 15, 2019 11:15 AM

Pay my rent in advance - I'd like one sweet dollar for everytime I am going to hear or see the word Islamaphobe this news cycle.

by Anonymousreply 451March 15, 2019 11:21 AM

All the Islam hate on DL and DL wonders why this happens.

by Anonymousreply 452March 15, 2019 11:27 AM

Has Pewdypie piped up?

Just looked online to see if he'd made any comment by association.

by Anonymousreply 453March 15, 2019 11:27 AM

I can't believe how many people actually want to see that video. I'm a fan of weird videos too but I definitely have zero interest in seeing 50 people being shot to death.

by Anonymousreply 454March 15, 2019 11:30 AM

So the death toll has risen dramatically then?

Some hours back it was reported at the start of this thread that there were 6 fatalities.

Now it's up to 50?

by Anonymousreply 455March 15, 2019 11:37 AM

Hey r450, kiwi here - we love our Aussies! This cunt is not representative of anything except hatred. Peace :)

by Anonymousreply 456March 15, 2019 11:40 AM

PewDiePie's statement:

[quote]Just heard news of the devastating reports from New Zealand Christchurch. I feel absolutely sickened having my name uttered by this person. My heart and thoughts go out to the victims, families and everyone affected by this tragedy.

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by Anonymousreply 457March 15, 2019 11:42 AM

Last reported death poll is up to 49.

by Anonymousreply 458March 15, 2019 11:44 AM

Late to the discussion -- who is this pewdipie person?

by Anonymousreply 459March 15, 2019 11:51 AM

Given the NZ prison population is disproportionately Pacific Islanders, Maoris and Muslims, I'm worried for him. I hope they ensure he's put in a safe space with some nice white boys, where he can heal from his inner anxieties which obviously pushed him over the edge. He sounded pretty stressed in the video. These things happen. With good behaviour, he'll be out in eighteen years, so the focus needs to be on rehabilitation, and Moving Forward.™

by Anonymousreply 460March 15, 2019 11:53 AM

[quote]who is this pewdipie person?

Relax granda. Just be patient. One day they'll invent something called Google, so you won't have to be fucking annoying.

by Anonymousreply 461March 15, 2019 11:55 AM

I assumed that was sarcasm r460, but a quick ignore check has shown you spent this thread complaining about "SJWS" and "virtue signalers". Milo is that you? Go away dear.

by Anonymousreply 462March 15, 2019 11:57 AM

[quote]I assumed that was sarcasm

You really must have sweated that one.

by Anonymousreply 463March 15, 2019 11:58 AM

"What will Trump blame this on?"

Jussie Smollet's hoax and, by extension, black culture.

by Anonymousreply 464March 15, 2019 12:03 PM

Dylan Roof did the church in SC, Robert Powers did the synagogue in Pittsburgh. What's with this alt-right crowd targetting places of worship?

by Anonymousreply 465March 15, 2019 12:04 PM

Candace Owns warning the media to link her with the attack just because the attacker specifically mentioned her:

FACT: I’ve never created any content espousing my views on the 2nd Amendment or Islam.

The Left pretending I inspired a mosque massacre in...New Zealand because I believe black America can do it without government hand outs is the reachiest reach of all reaches!! LOL

To be clear:

We played the “Candace is Hitler” game. We played the “Candace is anti-rape victims” game.

If the media attempts this “Candace inspired a mosque shooting in New Zealand” bit—they better all lawyer the f*ck up. I will go full Covington Catholic lawsuit.

Try me.

by Anonymousreply 466March 15, 2019 12:05 PM

No word yet on the accomplices? I can't find anything - Twitter says coos raiding Dunedin SomervilleSt property (2hr drive south from Christchurch). I'm not sure but if 4suspevts in custody only 3 charged (??( including Tarrant. He might be the only Australian in the frame of the group (??) - surprised there's been no leaks in this area so far.

Jacinda Ahearne has flown into Wellington and there are reports it's big ass Emergency Response.

Be interesting to see what eventuates in weekend newscycle here.

by Anonymousreply 467March 15, 2019 12:06 PM

R 40 You said it all. Beyond horrific. I will do everything I can to avoid seeing it.

You can never “unsee” this type of horror. In the Olden days we had to READ a newspaper or WATCH the news (which was not on 24/7).

Why saturate yourself with violence?

by Anonymousreply 468March 15, 2019 12:06 PM

[quote]"What will Trump blame this on?"

I think he will avoid talking about it as much as he can get away with. He tweeted a Brietbart link well after he would have known it had occurred and it took him about ten hours to tweet something this generic and tepid.

[quote]My warmest sympathy and best wishes goes out to the people of New Zealand after the horrible massacre in the Mosques. 49 innocent people have so senselessly died, with so many more seriously injured. The U.S. stands by New Zealand for anything we can do. God bless all!

and he immediately followed that up with a tweet about something completely unrelated quoting Fox&Friends and OANN.

[quote]The ‘Jexodus’ movement encourages Jewish people to leave the Democrat Party. Total disrespect! Republicans are waiting with open arms. Remember Jerusalem (U.S. Embassy) and the horrible Iran Nuclear Deal! @OANN @foxandfriends

by Anonymousreply 469March 15, 2019 12:08 PM

did anyone post that after shooter was arrested he was asked if he supported TRUMP. His answer was, his white supremacy yes, his policies, Dear God no. Shooter also said other mosque shootings are currently being planned

by Anonymousreply 470March 15, 2019 12:14 PM

Shooter is not HAWT! Should I have hopes of the co-conspirators?

So far only Mike Bush the NZ police commissioner seems to have a bit of a silver daddy thing happening - but there's a disappointing even of man candy in evidence.

Bangladeshi cricketers aren't my scene and no hot cops doing vox pop either.

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by Anonymousreply 471March 15, 2019 12:15 PM

Yes, Trump might just as well have tweeted DL cynical favourite, 'Thoughts and prayers.'

And there's something so disgustingly tone deaf about that exclamation point at the end, which trivialises the entire vapid message even more.

As though he's supporting an American sports team in some tournament abroad. Shameful.

by Anonymousreply 472March 15, 2019 12:19 PM

R398. Is sewage.

by Anonymousreply 473March 15, 2019 12:21 PM

THIS is what happens when people don't follow PROCEDURE!

There's a proper time and place for such killing.

How can we award medals if people won't follow PROCEDURE?!

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by Anonymousreply 474March 15, 2019 12:20 PM

r470, typical. Like Americans who adore Trump but want to keep their Medicaid.

by Anonymousreply 475March 15, 2019 12:29 PM

Apparently instagram think it’s fine to post the video of him killing people. I reported it and was told it didn’t breach their rules. WTF?

To the Aussie apologising - no need mate - if he hadn’t carried out the attack in NZ I’m sure Australia would have been his target.

by Anonymousreply 476March 15, 2019 12:35 PM

As tragic as this is, why is there so much more outrage and sympathy when a mosque is attacked than when Muslims attack others? I still remember how the media covered for the pulse shooter and tried to create false theories for why the shooting happened that were later disproven. They tried their best to present Maren in a positive light. They said he shut up pulse because he got AIDS after clubbing there.

by Anonymousreply 477March 15, 2019 12:37 PM

*shot up

by Anonymousreply 478March 15, 2019 12:39 PM

[quote]These are secular societies, once immigrant Muslims accept that they will do just fine.

And in the meantime, keep expecting to be massacred?

Disgusting that so many on DL want to turn this into a Muslim problem and not a white supremacist problem.

by Anonymousreply 479March 15, 2019 12:38 PM

The Youtube reporting feature is such bullshit. I reported an upload of the livestream (and no, you fucking terrorist wannabes and gore freaks, don't ask for the fucking link!) and YT has yet to take it down. And the views just keep growing exponentially.

By contrast, I posted an image compilation vid of hot guys a while ago. One image had a bit of peen sticking out of shorts and BAM! Just like that, the vid was removed and I was hit with a warning. Homophobic nazi-loving cunts at Google (and Facebook, for that matter)!

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by Anonymousreply 480March 15, 2019 12:45 PM

That looks great R474 - where is that available?

Thanks anyway the heads up to that - I've found its IMDB page for a future look-see.

by Anonymousreply 481March 15, 2019 12:47 PM

[quote]One image had a bit of peen

Next time have the peen pulling the trigger of an AK47.

by Anonymousreply 482March 15, 2019 12:52 PM

I'm guessing Dirty White Boy went to New Zealand to mass murder because Australia has much stricter gun laws. NZ, like the US, allows ordinary citizens to buy military grade automatic rifles.

by Anonymousreply 483March 15, 2019 12:58 PM

R129’s link has a graphic description of the shootings which is as inflammatory as if you’re watching the video.

There’s no need for a shot by shot description.

by Anonymousreply 484March 15, 2019 1:06 PM

Just put Fox "news" on out of curiosity. A reporter called Jonathon Hunt is reporting on it and at least he's being straight up about it, metuining that the guy was a Trump fan. I'm frankly surprised.

by Anonymousreply 485March 15, 2019 1:07 PM

Mentioning ^

by Anonymousreply 486March 15, 2019 1:09 PM

It was a horrific attack but so was the Pulse and the Bataclan. We are in a tit for tat culture war at this point and have been for some time, we just don't widely recognise it as war because it's a series of incidents committed by rogue individuals or small cells. Then you have stuff like the Las Vegas shootings that don't appear to make any sense on an ideological level. Shit is fucked up.

by Anonymousreply 487March 15, 2019 1:12 PM

"but US cops can probably teach seminars in how to quickly deal with mass shooting events, we have fucking enough of them. "

Like Pulse where they let people die for hours while sitting outside? But they were gay people so I suppose the pigs were okay with it.

by Anonymousreply 488March 15, 2019 1:12 PM

R332, That was my favorite song when I was in college. I'd blast it out my dorm window. "I am the God of Hell-fire,.... "!

by Anonymousreply 489March 15, 2019 1:13 PM

Exactly R487 and shit’s only getting worse. I do not see how we are ever getting out of it

by Anonymousreply 490March 15, 2019 1:15 PM

Speaking of inflammatory, just witness the disgusting comments on this tweet.

"Michelle and I send our condolences to the people of New Zealand. We grieve with you and the Muslim community. All of us must stand against hatred in all its forms."

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by Anonymousreply 491March 15, 2019 1:19 PM

That was actually the manifesto, R470. He wrote it in Q&A format because he was apparently imagining himself being interviewed by scores of journalists wanting to know whose suits he wears.

by Anonymousreply 492March 15, 2019 1:19 PM

Honestly, when nothing changed after Sandy Hook I knew we were fucked. If dead white kids can't move the cogs against mass shootings absolutely nothing will.

by Anonymousreply 493March 15, 2019 1:19 PM

We aren't, r490.

by Anonymousreply 494March 15, 2019 1:19 PM

Twitter is a cesspool right now, R491. I must have seen three or four dozen brand new accounts with no followers and no avatar posting racist, homophobic threats at anyone who even mentioned PewDiePie.

At first I thought it was some coordinated attack but then I saw long-time, larger accounts doing the same thing, only slightly less violent, and I realized that's PDP's base.

by Anonymousreply 495March 15, 2019 1:20 PM

R491? I'm seeing pro-Obama replies. FYI, the "inciting violence" reply refers to Trump.

by Anonymousreply 496March 15, 2019 1:23 PM

R493, you are correct. Sandy Hook was a wake up call for me that we will never see gun control enacted in my lifetime (and I’m 35). If white, reasonably privileged children can change minds, nothing will.

by Anonymousreply 497March 15, 2019 1:22 PM

R477, you sound like an ignorant monster.

by Anonymousreply 498March 15, 2019 1:22 PM

[quote]If dead white kids can't move the cogs against mass shootings absolutely nothing will.

Over 90% of Americans wanted something done, but the government refused. At the time we thought that was just political GOP greed, but in retrospect it seems even more chilling. We should have realized something bigger was going on, but sadly we didn't.

by Anonymousreply 499March 15, 2019 1:23 PM

R498, I think the ignorant monsters are the media figures who intentionally mislead the public about why 50 people were slaughtered at Pulse!

by Anonymousreply 500March 15, 2019 1:26 PM

[quote]Shit is fucked up.

R487 It makes perfect sense if you don't attempt to look for a parity that doesn't exist, lump events all together, tie it up in a neat box of complete ignorance.

Bataclan, Pulse, London, Manchester, Birmingham, Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Paris, Joué-lès-Tours, Saint-Quentin-Fallavier, Oignies, Saint-Étienne-du-Rouvray, Charleroi, Levallois-Perret, Marseilles, Nice, Nimes, Toulouse, Carcassonne, Berlin, Hannover, Würzburg, Ansbach, Düsseldorf, Vienna, Brussels, Antwerp, Liège, Copenhagen, Stockholm, Malmo, Turku, Sydney, Oslo, Madrid, Barcelona, New York, Boston, San Bernardino, Mumbai, Kenya, Nigeria, Mali, Chad, Ivory Coast, etc. etc. etc. = Islam's on-going 1,400 year old war of conquest and submission of the West/non-Muslims that will continue until non-Muslims are subjugated or Islam is weakened and no longer militant.

Gun violence in America is part and parcel of America's 243 year old entrenched violent, angry culture. It too will continue unabated.

by Anonymousreply 501March 15, 2019 1:28 PM

The tragedy is too that while tribalism and race cultural wars will escalate in years ahead as resources stretch, the planet will keep i mploding and our boy diversity collapse is already well underway so it won't matter anyway.

Kiddies protesting worldwide today are fucked already, they just don't know it yet.

by Anonymousreply 502March 15, 2019 1:29 PM

Not trying to be Mary or anything but I have absolutely zero interest in watching videos of innocent helpless people being shot

by Anonymousreply 503March 15, 2019 1:32 PM

^^ BIO diversity !

by Anonymousreply 504March 15, 2019 1:31 PM

Well SMELL R503!

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by Anonymousreply 506March 15, 2019 1:34 PM

Why Youtube will never ban PewDiePie

Reason #1: MONEY Reason #2: See Reason #1

[quote]Joined Apr 29, 2010 • 89,472,448 subscribers • 20,724,194,924 views

by Anonymousreply 507March 15, 2019 1:35 PM

Who the hell is Pewdiepie? I am officially old and more and more happy about it.

by Anonymousreply 508March 15, 2019 1:36 PM

I’ve heard of him—never seen him.

by Anonymousreply 509March 15, 2019 1:36 PM

Cowards.

by Anonymousreply 510March 15, 2019 1:38 PM

[quote]the ignorant monsters are the media figures who intentionally mislead the public about why 50 people were slaughtered at Pulse!

And not only the media. Given the atmosphere at the time, no one, not the MSM, not Obama's DOJ, not the FBI wanted any public debate or investigation about a Muslim murdering 50 people at a gay nightclub. The murderer's accomplice wife was quickly hidden away by the FBI, the media quickly moved on.

by Anonymousreply 511March 15, 2019 1:39 PM

Pew die pie does not promote racism or Islamophobia iHe’s just a gamer who does comedy on YouTube. Should we ban Hillary because the pulse shooter was a fan of hers?

by Anonymousreply 512March 15, 2019 1:41 PM

Believe me, you're not alone R503. I don't understand anyone who would want to see it.

by Anonymousreply 513March 15, 2019 1:43 PM

Here is the real truth r512

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by Anonymousreply 514March 15, 2019 1:44 PM

PewDiePie is a well-known white supremacist in far-right (or as I call it, far-wrong) circles.

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by Anonymousreply 515March 15, 2019 1:45 PM
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by Anonymousreply 517March 15, 2019 1:45 PM

Well it deals with gays R511. You know how people feel about gays. Look at Chechnya. Where do you read about Chechnya? Nowhere.

by Anonymousreply 518March 15, 2019 1:45 PM

How long was he in AU? Was he a tourist? They let Aussies stay for unlimited time without visa?

by Anonymousreply 519March 15, 2019 1:51 PM

The Chechnya story has been widely covered. There is little more to be said than it is an atrocity and there is nothing to be done about it while Trump's tongue is firmly planted up Putin's bunghole.

by Anonymousreply 520March 15, 2019 1:51 PM

Personal Trainer...roid rage?

by Anonymousreply 521March 15, 2019 1:54 PM

The white-supremacist shooter, 28, who was born in Australia, said he wanted to take revenge for the “thousands of European lives lost to terror attacks”.

He boasted that he chose to use firearms so he could influence politics in the US.

“Finally, to create conflict between the two ideologies within the United States on the ownership of firearms in order to further the social, cultural, political and racial divide within the United states,” he wrote.

“This conflict over the 2nd amendment and the attempted removal of firearms rights will ultimately result in a civil war that will eventually balkanize the US along political, cultural and, most importantly, racial lines.”

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by Anonymousreply 523March 15, 2019 1:57 PM

Personal Trainer role was eight years ago. He's touristed to Nth Korea since with those backpacker drinking parties. Shane they didn't hold him for coma treatment too.

by Anonymousreply 524March 15, 2019 1:57 PM

Read the Guardian headline first thing this morning and could not comprehend that it was Christchurch, NZ. I was racking my brain on where another Christchurch could be.

I lived in NZ for 3 1/2 years as a kid. Still have an aunt there but the rest of my family moved to OZ and I went to the USA. Surprised NZ gun laws weren't as tough as OZ's.

by Anonymousreply 525March 15, 2019 1:58 PM

R519 The 'Trans Tasman Agreement' allows Aussies (who are supposedly of good character) to live and work pretty much freely in NZ, and vice versa. After two years of primary residence they can vote and can receive health and SS benefits like any other Nz'er. This guy must have stayed out of trouble for most of his life, or they likely would have turned him away at customs in NZ. Though mistakes during background checks are always possible.

by Anonymousreply 526March 15, 2019 2:01 PM

Air New Zealand had to cancel 17 flights because the Christchurch airport have the processes in place to do the high level screenings of passengers.

by Anonymousreply 527March 15, 2019 2:02 PM

[quote]Well it deals with gays [R511]. You know how people feel about gays.

It was the worst mass shooting at the time in US history. And yet any and all public debate and discussion were quickly shut down because the shooter was Muslim (who also happened to be a registered Democrat).

by Anonymousreply 528March 15, 2019 2:04 PM

Get used to that R528. You see it here. Threads about Muslims attacking gays here get deleted. I may be silenced here and by the media but I’m not silenced with my vote.

by Anonymousreply 529March 15, 2019 2:12 PM

Must be in his genes, they used to send all the convicts and murderers to AU....

No mention of relationship. Was he rejected by lots of women etc?

Just read that his dad died at age 49. mom is still alive.

by Anonymousreply 530March 15, 2019 2:12 PM

Rumours say that his targets are not only muslims, but also include all the non-white people living in western countries. Is it true?

by Anonymousreply 531March 15, 2019 2:11 PM

He shot several people outside the mosque -- they might not have been Muslims, although it might follow that a mosque would be in a Muslim neighborhood.

In California, mosques are just wherever.

by Anonymousreply 532March 15, 2019 2:15 PM

It wasn't a terror attack, it was just a plain old nutjob.

by Anonymousreply 533March 15, 2019 2:17 PM

DL's regular islamaphobes making a thread about dozens of Muslims murdered into a thread about their hatred of Muslims...fucking assholes.

Congratulations. You have allied yourself with Mr. Tarrant. A mass murderer.

by Anonymousreply 534March 15, 2019 2:18 PM

Could we all please just stop and take a moment...

...to point and laugh at the Red-tagged Troll 👹 (#5471) at R531 until it slinks away in shame?

by Anonymousreply 535March 15, 2019 2:20 PM

Could he not get a girl? Delusional pent up blind anger.

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by Anonymousreply 538March 15, 2019 2:26 PM

Facebook is having as bad a weeks as Trump. Karma

by Anonymousreply 539March 15, 2019 2:29 PM

Correction, R535. It's "troll 5475."

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by Anonymousreply 541March 15, 2019 2:31 PM

There will be retribution, no doubt.

by Anonymousreply 542March 15, 2019 2:37 PM

This horrorfest has Twitter on FIRE today:

New York trends:

New Zealand - Christchurch shootings: Dozens killed in terror attack

Muslim - Dozens killed in shootings at two Christchurch mosques

Christchurch - Christchurch shootings: Dozens killed in terror attack

#NewZealandShooting - Christchurch shootings: Dozens killed in terror attack on two mosques

#ClimateStrike - Thousands of students kick off global climate change strike in Australia and New Zealand

Islamophobia - 215K Tweets

#NZMosqueShooting - Christchurch shootings: Dozens killed in terror attack on two mosques

by Anonymousreply 543March 15, 2019 2:42 PM

R542–I thought that too. I thought gays better not leave their houses over in the UK and EU.

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by Anonymousreply 545March 15, 2019 2:47 PM

See how it looks so nice on the surface.

by Anonymousreply 546March 15, 2019 2:47 PM

See what it really means:

He said he was born to 'working class, low-income family... who decided to take a stand to ensure a future for my people'.

'My parents are of Scottish, Irish and English stock. I had a regular childhood, without any great issues,' he wrote.

The gunman said he carried out the massacre to 'directly reduce immigration rates to European lands'.

He said New Zealand was not his 'original choice' for the attack but said the location would show 'that nowhere in the world was safe'.

'We must ensure the existence of our people, and a future for white children,' he wrote.

He wrote that the shooting was an 'act of revenge on the invaders for the hundreds of thousands of deaths caused by foreign invaders in European lands throughout history'.

'For the enslavement of millions of Europeans taken from their lands by the Islamic slavers... for the thousands of European lives lost to terror attacks throughout European lands,' the gunman wrote.

He shared photos to his now-removed Twitter account ahead of the attacks, showing weapons and military-style equipment.

In posts online before the attack Tarrant wrote about 'taking the fight to the invaders myself'.

by Anonymousreply 547March 15, 2019 2:49 PM

[quote]You have allied yourself with Mr. Tarrant. A mass murderer.

And Tarrant has allied himself with mass murderers Atta, al Hazmi, al Shehhi, Jarrah, Mateen, Farook, Tsarnaev, Abdesalam, Mahmood, Mostefai, Amamour, Mohamed-Aggai, Abedi, Koachi, Hussain, El Bakraoui, Laachraoui, Abrini, Krayem, Lahouaiej-Bouhlel, Abouyaaqoub etc.

by Anonymousreply 548March 15, 2019 2:50 PM

This an actual example of terrorism by white people! Now lefties can use this one as an example instead of cases that are just simple mass shootings like school ahootings,etc.

by Anonymousreply 549March 15, 2019 2:52 PM

The shooting happened near Cathedral Square where thousands of children were protesting for climate change action.

The protesting children were told to go home to ensure their safety.

by Anonymousreply 550March 15, 2019 2:53 PM

This is one of many r549. there have been many attacks by alt-right fuckheads.

by Anonymousreply 551March 15, 2019 2:54 PM

I sense serious retaliation either in NZ/ Aus or Europe by radical Muslims

by Anonymousreply 552March 15, 2019 2:56 PM

This guy PewDiePie that the killer closed his manifesto with (Sub to PewDiePie) has 17 million Twitter followers and 89 MILLION Youtube subs. He puts out a video every day, sometimes 2/day and each one gets 6-9 million views. It’s staggering the following the guy has.

by Anonymousreply 553March 15, 2019 2:57 PM

Pewdie Pie is a known racist and Jew hater, isn’t he?

by Anonymousreply 554March 15, 2019 2:58 PM

As noted up thread, he is not very nice.

by Anonymousreply 555March 15, 2019 2:59 PM

Right Wingers just sit around telling lies to each other. They always prefer the lies over the truth.

by Anonymousreply 556March 15, 2019 3:02 PM

@Pervaizistan

New Zealand mosque shooting suspect used Swedish girl's death as license to kill. Her name was scrawled onto the butt of his assault rifle along with other pretexts for his “revenge.”

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by Anonymousreply 557March 15, 2019 3:07 PM

It's so much better when the hot boys get along

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by Anonymousreply 558March 15, 2019 3:17 PM

Brace yourselves for the inevitable white people bashing!

by Anonymousreply 559March 15, 2019 3:21 PM

Congrats DLers on keeping this on a single thread.

Anyone else catch our moron-in-chief sending his "warmest sympathies" to NZ?

Christchurch is a small city--I am sure every Muslim family there was affected. So sad.

Not sure what to make of this happening in a country with a very liberal female prime minister--random quirk like the Norway camp massacre or Trump's evil spreads beyond US borders

by Anonymousreply 560March 15, 2019 3:36 PM

Yea because no terrorism or evil nutjobs existed before Trump.

by Anonymousreply 561March 15, 2019 3:39 PM

Has the flashing seemed like led light on his rifle been talked about? Was it used to disorient the victims, or to distract them?

by Anonymousreply 562March 15, 2019 3:40 PM

I know I'm going to get shit for this but here it goes... I think the legitimate news media (not twitter, facebook etc) should play the video in its entirety. There's something to be said when the avegage person actually sees horrific violence instead of reading sanitized accounts. Violent images helped change sentiment with the Vietnam War. Bush 2 knew the power these images had wouldn't allow certain situations to be photographed. Emmett Till's mother understood the power the image her dead son had.

A picture is worth a 1000 words.

by Anonymousreply 563March 15, 2019 3:43 PM

Whites will be killed this weekend says my gut.

by Anonymousreply 564March 15, 2019 3:50 PM

[quote]Has the flashing seemed like led light on his rifle been talked about? Was it used to disorient the victims, or to distract them?

Laser sight?

by Anonymousreply 565March 15, 2019 3:51 PM

R563 - I’m with you. The gun violence in the US is out of control and the lack of anger towards NRA bought politicians is pathetic. Repugs only care about things that personally impact them so maybe we can show those not brainwashed by Dump and Faux News what gun violence and mass shootings are really like.

I wouldn’t have said this 5 years ago, but after Sandy Hook and no action, we need to do something to stir any action.

As the pro lifers picket lib stuff with pics of unborn fetuses, we should be picketing them with pics of innocent people shredded by machine guns.

by Anonymousreply 566March 15, 2019 3:52 PM

This was just three months ago:

[quote]YouTube’s most popular user amplified anti-Semitic rhetoric. Again.

[quote]PewDiePie has 76 million followers — and a history of flirting with alt-right culture. The potential consequences are grave.

[quote]on December 9, he recommended several YouTube channels he said he’d been enjoying recently. One of those channels is called “E;R,” and PewDiePie lauded its “great video essays,” including “one on [the Netflix movie] Death Note which I really enjoyed.” He also linked to the channel in his video description. (The recommendation has since been edited out of the video.)

[quote]To casual observers, PewDiePie’s support of E;R may have appeared harmless — one YouTube user supporting another. But a more-than-cursory dive into the channel would have revealed several instances of disturbing imagery, slurs, and white supremacist messaging. E;R’s creator even refers to his reputation as a racist in the channel’s FAQ.

[quote]In response, PewDiePie released a follow-up video on December 11 in which he described the incident as an “oopsie” and scoffed at the idea that he was promoting anti-Semitism by merely “recommending someone for their anime review.”

[quote]PewDiePie also referred to several past incidents that sparked a similar outcry: a video in which he performed a Nazi “heil” salute, and one in which he hired a pair of performers from a freelancer website to hold up a sign reading “Death to all Jews.”

[quote]...each of the three videos that PewDiePie featured in his since-removed shoutout of the E;R channel featured fairly obvious examples of the channel’s offensive content — in fact, not only did part one of the Death Note review that PewDiePie said he liked directly invoke a racial slur in its video description (the description has since been edited), but the first 15 seconds of part two contain a reference to a 2017 incident in which PewDiePie himself dropped a racial slur

by Anonymousreply 567March 15, 2019 3:54 PM

R562 I think that flashing red lighr is a laser targeting thing.

by Anonymousreply 568March 15, 2019 3:56 PM

How is this the NRA fault? NZ has limited access to guns for citizens and cops.

by Anonymousreply 569March 15, 2019 3:56 PM

red *light*

by Anonymousreply 570March 15, 2019 3:57 PM

R567 yeah, that’s why this maniac follows him.

by Anonymousreply 571March 15, 2019 4:00 PM

Lucky for him Facebook wasn't down. Or did he wait for Facebook to be back up again ? timing wise is odd.

by Anonymousreply 572March 15, 2019 4:00 PM

R549, I guess you're not familiar with the IRA (and I'm not talking retirement accounts).

by Anonymousreply 573March 15, 2019 4:00 PM

It didn't look like a red target laser light, but I'm not going to find that video and rewatching it to confirm.

by Anonymousreply 574March 15, 2019 4:02 PM

R57 he is still a terrorist being white doesn't exclude his act.

by Anonymousreply 575March 15, 2019 4:08 PM

[quote]Whites will be killed this weekend says my gut.

Take some Tums.

by Anonymousreply 576March 15, 2019 4:11 PM

@LosFelizLedger

The Los Angeles Police Dept. says it will add patrols around mosques in the city in response to mass shootings at two mosques in New Zealand. Police say there is no apparent threat to L.A., but the department says it is adding the patrols "out of an abundance of caution.'

(I looked to see if there were any mosques near us, and found a baffling fact -- anywhere that a lot of Armenians live, there is a mosque for the Muslims who have also settled in the neighborhood. Given the 1915 Genocide, that would be like having NeoBund camps in places like Fairfax and Larchmont...

by Anonymousreply 577March 15, 2019 4:19 PM

49 dead?

by Anonymousreply 578March 15, 2019 4:22 PM

At least 49 expect numbers to rise as countless victims are in critical condition

by Anonymousreply 579March 15, 2019 4:25 PM

@KNX1070

The @MayorOfLA showed up at the Islamic Center of Southern California in Koreatown Friday morning, ahead of Friday prayers, to talk to worshippers.

by Anonymousreply 580March 15, 2019 4:26 PM

R206 are you this Brent fella?

by Anonymousreply 581March 15, 2019 4:26 PM

It's 5.30am NZ time. So I'd expect some to see more updates and confirmations within the next several hours.

by Anonymousreply 582March 15, 2019 4:33 PM

R256 you are a SICK fuck! I won't be surprised to see you murdering any passerby for just walking slowly in front of you.

by Anonymousreply 583March 15, 2019 4:34 PM

Isis vows revenge!

by Anonymousreply 584March 15, 2019 4:51 PM

Until now, New Zealand had not had a mass shooting since June 1994, when David Bain, 22, killed his father Robin, mother Margaret, his sisters Arawa and Laniet , and his brother Stephen.

New Zealand tightened gun laws after the Aramoana massacre of November 1990, which saw 13 people shot dead in a small township near Dunedin , following a neighbourhood dispute.

by Anonymousreply 585March 15, 2019 5:07 PM

He's a white supreme, is he? Can you tell us the color of his eyes? Only because finding it a running theme that these WS usually never have blue or even green eyes. So not exactly white white.

by Anonymousreply 586March 15, 2019 5:11 PM

What is a pewdiepie?

by Anonymousreply 587March 15, 2019 5:36 PM

Why no women in Mosques, can they attend funerals?

by Anonymousreply 588March 15, 2019 5:39 PM

No closing Pandora’s box.

Duck and cover is the only sane option.

Interesting times (in the famed Chinese proverbial sense).

by Anonymousreply 589March 15, 2019 5:46 PM

OMG! R589 just put a curse on us!

by Anonymousreply 590March 15, 2019 5:59 PM

Is this where everyone is at?

by Anonymousreply 591March 15, 2019 6:29 PM

R573, the killers on Bloody Sunday were British troops.

by Anonymousreply 592March 15, 2019 6:41 PM

Did they say where he got his weapons?

by Anonymousreply 593March 15, 2019 6:46 PM

yes, I saw that video too. It was so fucked up, the people were already not moving (dead), on the ground and in a corner and he kept shooting...guess he was making sure ?!

too bad they don't have death penalty in NZ.

by Anonymousreply 594March 15, 2019 6:47 PM

Has Trump said the magic words yet? "Radical White Supremacist Terrorism?" That's supposed to have some sort of magical charm effect in warding off all future such attacks.

by Anonymousreply 595March 15, 2019 6:56 PM

Trump remarked that the shooter was a very fine person r595.

by Anonymousreply 596March 15, 2019 6:56 PM

Yeah the video clips I saw last night were gruesome. First time I’ve seen what it actually looks like when a semi- automatic weapon hits a body. Or dozens of them. There were heaps of motionless people on the ground that he fired into repeatedly. And the muzzle of the weapon spits fire each time it’s fired.

You can read about mass shootings all day but there’s nothing like watching a video of it. Like reading about some NFL footballer who hits his wife—nothing is done about it until a cellphone video crops up on the net, then all hell breaks loose.

by Anonymousreply 597March 15, 2019 7:02 PM

It depends on which side your on R595. You saw it with Obama and you see it with Trump. Neither will discredit their fan base.

by Anonymousreply 598March 15, 2019 7:04 PM

I agree with those who have no desire to watch this video. Many people are really different.

I don't need to watch people die to understand that a terrific crime took place. It just seems creepily voyeurisitic and macabre.

by Anonymousreply 599March 15, 2019 7:06 PM

And the crazy fucker wrote all kinds of shit on the weapons. This guy was consumed by this for a very long time. WTF is wrong with him? Where did he get his money? Was he also a personal trainer in NZ?

by Anonymousreply 600March 15, 2019 7:06 PM

[quote]Neither will discredit their fan base.

It has nothing at all to do with their "fan base," particularly with Obama. It was a stupid thing to attack Obama on, ignorant and meaningless.

by Anonymousreply 601March 15, 2019 7:27 PM
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