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Was Michael Jackson gay?

I don't think so. Even though he molested boys, in "Leaving Neverland," both men accused Jackson of watching and showing them straight porn.

by Anonymousreply 62Last Friday at 11:37 PM

Yes Rose.

by Anonymousreply 103/13/2019

He was not straight or gay. He was a child molester. He was sexually attracted, primarily and solely to children. Male children.

by Anonymousreply 203/13/2019

He did ask the boys to show their assholes and he tried to penetrate at least one of them.

Yes, he was more a pedo than either gay or straight.

MJ was likely molested as a kid himself

by Anonymousreply 303/13/2019

Yes, I think one of the siblings said that the father molested him. I know that the father and bros would have sex with prostitutes in same hotel room when he was a kid.

by Anonymousreply 403/13/2019

The whole family is sick. Thanks to Joe Jackson and the enabling mother. Joe married her out of pity because she was a cripple, and she felt overly grateful towards him for that. Which meant that she looked the other way when he abused the children. He emotionally abused her by making her feel like he was doing her a huge favor by marrying her. The dynamics were majorly fucked up in that family. Now we’re all looking at the detritus of the dysfunction.

by Anonymousreply 503/13/2019

Miss Michael responds

by Anonymousreply 603/13/2019

I'm not gay (8:24).

by Anonymousreply 703/13/2019

He showed straight porn because it is ingrained in people that heterosexuality is normal. Don't be so stupid.

by Anonymousreply 803/14/2019

R7 Jackson is being ask about sexually abusing children and he's smirking and giggling.

And the attorney isn't allowed to ask if he even knows Jordie Chandler, the kid he paid $20+ million in hush money to.

by Anonymousreply 903/14/2019

I wonder how big Michael Jackson's penis was. Was size discussed on the HBO documentary?

by Anonymousreply 1003/14/2019

IDIOT ALERT, MICHAEL JACKSON WAS A GAY PEDO. HE PLAYED STRAIGHT PORN VIDEOS BECAUSE THE VICTIMS WERE STRAIGHT YOUNG BOYS.

by Anonymousreply 1103/14/2019

He was a gay pedo just like straight pedo who molest pre adolescent girls.

by Anonymousreply 1203/14/2019

"HE PLAYED STRAIGHT PORN VIDEOS BECAUSE THE VICTIMS WERE STRAIGHT YOUNG BOYS."

Exactly. People think he was into women? Bwaaaahh!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 1303/14/2019

[quote] He was a gay pedo just like straight pedo who molest pre adolescent girls.

Actually, it doesn't usually work that way. Straight pedos often molest both girls and boys. Sandusky is an example of a straight who molested boys.

It's about power more than sexuality

by Anonymousreply 1403/14/2019

[quote] Exactly. People think he was into women? Bwaaaahh!!!!!

We don't have much evidence he was into men. He molested little boys but they're not exactly men

by Anonymousreply 1503/14/2019

Here (at the 6:40 mark) he talks about a former employee who didn't disclose his former involvement in gay porn. Michael says it wouldn't mesh with his squeaky clean image, but he doesn't sound homophobic about it.

by Anonymousreply 1603/14/2019

"We don't have much evidence he was into men."

We don't have much evidence he was into women

"Sandusky is an example of a straight who molested boys."

He isn't straight

by Anonymousreply 1703/14/2019

He didn't watch the straight porn for his own benefit. He was not into women.

His real attraction was underage boys. That's male/male to be sure, but since the boys were THAT young, is that actually gay? He wasn't turned on by adult, or even teenage, male body parts. This isn't the chickenhawk situation where he liked them just a little on the side of illegal. He was a pedophile. Only a fool doubts that.

by Anonymousreply 1803/14/2019

R14. You are wrong. Pedos do have sexual orientation. If they weren't effed up they will act like a normal gay or straight person. The gender of their victims is a direct correlation of their sexual identity. Stop making excuses just because you are ashamed he was only into boys.

by Anonymousreply 1903/14/2019

No, R19- YOU are wrong. A pedophile is a person who is sexually attracted to children. The gender is peripheral to their sexual orientation, which is exclusively to children (in his case).

by Anonymousreply 2003/14/2019

Except most pedophiles are only into one gender of children. Btw, people who are attracted to children can be attracted to adults, too

by Anonymousreply 2103/14/2019

What R11 said

Gay men who lust after straight MEN have also been known to use alcohol and straight porn to ‘seduce’

Is OP a delusional frau or just another strain of tard?

by Anonymousreply 2203/14/2019

I'd say yes. I didn't find any of his relationships with women believable (Lisa Marie Presley, Brooke Shields, Debbie Rowe, Tatum O'Neal)

by Anonymousreply 2303/14/2019

I think micheal was molested by that guy who introuduced him to barry from motown, can't remember his name but he took him to a hotel room alone for like a week sound familar?

by Anonymousreply 2403/14/2019

[quote]No, [R19]- YOU are wrong. A pedophile is a person who is sexually attracted to children. The gender is peripheral to their sexual orientation, which is exclusively to children (in his case)

R20 - First off: pedophilia is a pathology, not a sexual orientation. Holy hell. Second: sexual orientation and pathologies can intersect; they are not mutually exclusive. MJ was specifically into MALE children. One speculation is that because of his childhood abuse by his dad and older brothers, even though MJ was gay, he regarded adult men as predatory beasts and was repulsed by them. He also had to repress his sexuality (imagine how that would have gone over with papa Joe - he probably would have disowned little MJ him and kicked him to the street.)

Disgusted by masculine, sexually mature men, MJ turned to boys instead. The “gay” was natural, while the boy-attraction was a mental illness.

by Anonymousreply 2503/14/2019

OP is understandably concerned that "gay" and "pedophile" are still conflated in mainstream straight thinking, so is attempting to separate the two by streeeeetching the facts as hard as he can.

Relax OP. Most people under 80 understand that being gay doesn't automatically mean you're a pedophile.

Michael Jackson was a gay pedophile.

Most pedophiles are straight.

Most pedophiles and sexual predators are men. Most of the victims are women and girls.

When the victims are underage boys, people pay more attention. Since most pedos are men, and boys being molested is a more dire situation to sexist society, the gay pedo gets a lot more hate.

So I understand OP's insistence that pedophilia should be classed as a separate sexual orientation. But the truth is, one can be gay AND a pedo.

by Anonymousreply 2603/14/2019

Yes, R25-its a pathology. That pathology completely consumes the realm of sexuality, which does not allow for a "normal" sexual orientation-therefore, the "orientation" is abnormal, and that abnormality manifests itself exclusively through an attraction for children. There is not gendered identification. The pedo is attracted to children. The gender is secondary. It is a pathology that is supported by the underpinnings of power and anger. A pedo is not a person that can identify as gay or straight, the pathology does not allow.

by Anonymousreply 2703/14/2019

More proof that MJ was repulsed by post-pubescent masculinity: his own facial feminization and artificially higher-than-natural-pitch speaking voice. Back in the 80s and 90s, a lot of people believed he was trans, but the big reveal we expected never occured. He also seemed to enjoy women as companions, but no matter how soft and nurturing they were, he simply was not sexually attracted to them.

by Anonymousreply 2803/14/2019

At the very least, he made the egregious mistake of gallivanting around with boys. Whether there was any sexual activity going on no one knows but the boys: most say nothing happened; a few say something happened- and it always involves lawsuits for money.

I tend to believe he was an infantile, asexual, horribly introverted man who felt more comfortable with kids his own (mental) age. I don't think he ever had sex with anyone (supposedly was repulsed at being touched) and that Lisa Presley- the only person on Earth who claims to have had an adult physical relationship with him- is lying to protect him.

by Anonymousreply 2903/14/2019

R29, he was not asexual. Asexuals dont buy porn. At least 4 boys have accused him. A grown man does not hang w litltle boys, sleep in the bed with them, keep porn, not have sex with women, pay off the boys parents-----------------------------------------without being a pedo. He literally ticks every box.

by Anonymousreply 3003/14/2019

Asexuals are also not prone to grabbing their crotches and thrusting their hips forward while screaming “aaaaaaay!!!!” in front of thousands of people.

by Anonymousreply 3103/14/2019

R25. You are right about sexual orientation and pathology intersecting. some gay men can be attracted to underaged boys and adult men and vice versa with heterosexual men. There are straight men who are attracted to preteen girls while they also have adult female girlfriends or wives.

by Anonymousreply 3203/14/2019

R2 is correct—pedophiles should not be thought of within the categories we use to describe normal sexuality. They are attracted to children. There does seem to be a gender preference within the pedophile population, but it makes little sense to speak of “gay” or “straight” with pre-pubescent children. I’m not sure the pedophile’s gender preference is comparble to a normal person’s sexual orientation.

by Anonymousreply 3303/14/2019

He was gay and a pedo. Both of which are unnatural. I know you all believe that a dick up the ass is normal, but it is not. How you can justify taking it in the shitter whilst condemning female genitalia still needs a justification. You need lube, enemas, laxatives, preparation to have dicks shoved up your ass. You are foul. Disgusting.

by Anonymousreply 3403/14/2019

Gayer than a Catholic Priests' Annual Conference!

by Anonymousreply 3503/14/2019

R34 is cranky, and would like a fresh pile of feces for her hot lunch right NOW, please.

by Anonymousreply 3603/14/2019

R34 is a deranged lunatic

by Anonymousreply 3703/14/2019

R34, is that you, Jared?? I told you to stay off of this site! And Gridr.

by Anonymousreply 3803/14/2019

I love how R34 is DISGUSTED by “unnatural” gay sex and then goes into detail about what a pain it is to prepare for anal, describing all the steps. As the normal straights do!

by Anonymousreply 3903/14/2019

Gay is too nice of a moniker for him, a twisted sick fuck , on the same level as a serial killer /rapist/pig /self centered nasty queen .

by Anonymousreply 4003/14/2019

Ted Bundy was a straight necrophile.

by Anonymousreply 4103/14/2019

R34 pretty sure you are on the wrong site.

by Anonymousreply 4203/14/2019

[quote] she was a cripple

@R5, you sound like a sociopath yourself. It takes one to know one?

by Anonymousreply 4303/14/2019

R10, talking like a true DLer

by Anonymousreply 4403/14/2019

Mighty sorry that none of you can understand how fucked-up it is to fuck assholes. Mum and Dad were not kind to you; sorry about that. And you are all misogynists, wailing about victimhood when you judge everyone. Face it: you are fucked. Put on your chaps and continue to have parades celebrating the fact that you fuck asses.

by Anonymousreply 4503/14/2019

R45 why does it bother you?

by Anonymousreply 4603/14/2019

Of course he was straight. We all saw that long lingering kiss he gave to his wife Lisa Marie presley. And of course one wife was not enough for him: he also married Debbie Rowe. He was as heterosexual as it gets.

by Anonymousreply 4703/14/2019

R45 is thirsty for cock up the poop chute

by Anonymousreply 4803/14/2019

LOL!!

by Anonymousreply 4903/14/2019

r45, you sound so incredibly UNfucked-up and well-adjusted yourself. As a result, naturally your judgement means so much to all of the rest of us.

by Anonymousreply 5003/14/2019

R34 comment opened my eyes and made me straight! Hallelujah!!

by Anonymousreply 5103/14/2019

R45 Okay okay - we can all see how completely grossed out you are by the thought of plunging your thick, aching, meat torpedo into the tight, virgin hole of that muscular young jock in the locker room (who’s obvs straight, but has been staring at you a little too long) while the other guys cheer you on AND chant homophobic slurs, whipping out their own sweaty, throbbing kielbasas, and spraying the both of you with hot showers of former gatorade.

The horror!

by Anonymousreply 5203/14/2019

R14, what makes you think Sundasky was straight. He molested high school boys. They are in puberty going into post puberty level of development. Pretty male at this stage. MJ was true pedophile he will loose interest in the boys once they hit puberty.

by Anonymousreply 5303/14/2019

John Wayne Gacey showed boys/men straight pornography too.

by Anonymousreply 5403/14/2019

[quote]They are in puberty going into post puberty level of development. Pretty male at this stage.

What were they before turning male?

by Anonymousreply 5503/14/2019

Luv it r47!

by Anonymousreply 5603/14/2019

A pedo is attracted to children. It has nothing to do with being gay or straight. No doubt Jacko did little boys because it was much easier to convince parents to let him "spend time" with their sons. Young girls would have raised red flags no one could have rationalized or explained away. He wasn't stupid, far from it

by Anonymousreply 5703/14/2019

So true r14...

by Anonymousreply 58Last Friday at 10:13 PM

He did not molest anyone. He was cleared of all wrongdoing. So cut the smear job.

by Anonymousreply 59Last Friday at 10:15 PM

[quote] what makes you think Sundasky was straight. He molested high school boys.

He was married and had kids and showed no evidence of wanting to have sex with adult males.

His penchant for black high school (and younger males) pushed him more into the pedo category. He was likely a straight pedi, many of whom prey on boys because of easier access

by Anonymousreply 60Last Friday at 10:50 PM

I think in Michael's mind he was a little white girl. But he looked into the mirror in horror to see an adult black male.

Cosmetic procedures gave him lighter skin and a turned-up, pixie nose. He whispered to make his voice higher, dieted to achieve a wispy frame. Make-up, long wigs, unisex clothing, a passion for jewelry... it all points to transgender.

But there was a war going on inside him: the masculine vs the feminine. Onstage he could be butch, grabbing his crotch, singing aggressively. But in private he just wanted to be a mommy with kids.

I don't think he ever had any sexual contact with those boys. And when he had his own children he lost all interest in other people's kids.

by Anonymousreply 61Last Friday at 11:00 PM

[quote]He was likely a straight pedi, many of whom prey on boys because of easier access

Like adult heterosexuals or homosexuals, most pedophiles have a clear preference for/inclination toward one gender. The fictional Humbert Humbert was exclusively interested in little girls. Jackson only liked little boys.

by Anonymousreply 62Last Friday at 11:37 PM
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