Why couldn't she dance?
|by Anonymous||reply 89||10 hours ago|
You either get the voice or the moves, not both. Beyonce is choreographed to hell, but she can't dance. Jennifer Lopez, Paula Abdul, they could dance, but shit for vocals.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||Last Wednesday at 2:21 PM|
Lesbian. Works best with cane.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||Last Wednesday at 2:22 PM|
A lot of people can't. Just because you can sing your tits off doesn't mean you can dance. This is the problem I have with Broadway these days - everyone's expected to be a good dancer on top of a great singer (although, it kinda seems like they put acting off to the side sometimes). Was Ethel Merman a great dancer? Or Patti LuPone? They could belt it out with the best of them, but they weren't great dancers either. Sometimes, just being able to sing as beautifully as Whitney is enough.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||Last Wednesday at 2:22 PM|
Someone deserves to burn in Hell for that hair, OP.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||Last Wednesday at 2:41 PM|
Whitney Houston was just a dumb woman.
A flat out, dumb woman.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||Last Wednesday at 2:43 PM|
Her biggest flaw was her skinny legs. Same with Meghan Markle...
|by Anonymous||reply 6||Last Wednesday at 2:44 PM|
You can be dumb and have rhythm.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||Last Wednesday at 2:44 PM|
Too much white DNA.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||Last Wednesday at 2:51 PM|
That’s what made Josephine, Judy, Sammy, David Ruffin, Michael and Liza, Stephanie Mills and Prince to some extent so amazing. They could do it both at the same time.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||Last Wednesday at 3:15 PM|
Neither could Simon, maybe it’s the song?
|by Anonymous||reply 10||Last Wednesday at 3:17 PM|
why couldn't she choose a good wig?
|by Anonymous||reply 11||Last Wednesday at 3:20 PM|
Why couldn't she find somebody who loves her?
|by Anonymous||reply 12||Last Wednesday at 3:28 PM|
Why did someone think her name was Susan?
|by Anonymous||reply 13||Last Wednesday at 3:29 PM|
Why did she have to take a bath that day?
|by Anonymous||reply 14||Last Wednesday at 3:48 PM|
Why hasn't Mr. Bubbles been charged with homicide?
|by Anonymous||reply 15||Last Wednesday at 3:53 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 16||Last Wednesday at 3:56 PM|
Because she didn't feel comfortable in who she was. Anyone can dance, but you must be rested in your body. FEEL the rhythm.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||Last Wednesday at 3:57 PM|
If you watch some early videos of her live performances she would move a little bit and you could tell she can dance a little. I think she didn't feel comfortable dancing because she didn't want her body and her moves to be what people focused on, I think it made her feel too exposed. She just wanted to sing.
Now we have the opposite. Female singers dropping it like hoes but with no real singing ability. I rather listen to a great voice.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||Last Wednesday at 5:06 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 19||Last Wednesday at 5:12 PM|
oh stop! The girl couldn't move even a little bit
|by Anonymous||reply 20||Last Thursday at 1:46 PM|
Mariah Carey can’t dance, either. If I had a choice, I’d rather be able to sing.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||Last Thursday at 4:34 PM|
The girl had real scrawny legs. Not thin and muscular, but just brown painted bone. Feh!
|by Anonymous||reply 22||Last Thursday at 4:48 PM|
Bone? Come on...
|by Anonymous||reply 23||Last Thursday at 5:10 PM|
Didn’t she almost have it all?
|by Anonymous||reply 24||Last Thursday at 5:12 PM|
I don’t know about that, but she believed that children are our future- she was wrong about that though, RIP Bobbi Kristina.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||Last Friday at 8:00 AM|
She was a big ballad singer. Being 'dancy' wasn't really her thing.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||Last Friday at 8:08 AM|
Simply one of the loveliest creatures I’ve ever laid eyes on...she didn’t have to dance because she could sing! Some of y’all are too dense to understand that.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||Last Friday at 8:11 AM|
She was gorgeous with an amazing voice, and not a half-bad actress, either. Dance ability would have been one talent too far.
I mean, Judy could dance and act and sing, but a looker with a great body she was not. Nobody gets everything.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||Last Friday at 1:58 PM|
I never noticed because I was distracted by the voice of a generation
|by Anonymous||reply 29||Last Friday at 2:01 PM|
Whitney was gorgeous and had one of the last century’s greatest voices.
Give god a break
|by Anonymous||reply 30||Last Friday at 2:15 PM|
I used to love the MadTV skits about Whitney but now I view them through the lens of her addiction and the closet. Just sad.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||Last Friday at 2:18 PM|
She could cut up and do a little dance if she wanted to.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||Last Friday at 2:32 PM|
Her lack of dancing skill reminds me of the "Blacks Without Soul" segment from Amazon Women on the Moon
|by Anonymous||reply 33||Last Friday at 2:37 PM|
I'd rather sing like Whitney Houston than dance like Janet Jackson
|by Anonymous||reply 34||Last Friday at 2:47 PM|
Can lesbians dance?
|by Anonymous||reply 35||Last Friday at 2:52 PM|
We smoked the baby!
|by Anonymous||reply 36||Last Friday at 6:46 PM|
Whitney was a puppet for Clive Davis, molded completely in his image. She was told what songs to sing, how to dress, how to wear her hair. If you’ve ever watched a Whitney interview, especially in her earlier years, she’s unusually cold and combative. Something I also noticed about Whitney recently while watching the “I Wanna Dance With Somebody” video while slightly stoned is how desexualized her image was crafted. That song in particular is about the desire, the longing to be with someone in a romantic way. And yet the Whitney in the video is anything but sexy (purple eyeshadow aside). Looking back knowing what we know now, the idea that she could be gay makes total sense. Uncomfortable with herself, the image created with her that she was forced to confine to. When Whitney was booed at the Soul Train awards for being “too white”, she took it very personal. Suddenly, she’s dating Bobby Brown and begging Clive to let her be more “urban”, the result of which is the subpar “I’m Your Baby Tonight” album which featured album art of Whitney in the back of a motorcycle with a license plate that says “Nippy”. She really couldn’t win. It’s no surprise if you look back at Whitney at the peak of her career the dark clouds on the horizon way before she became a crackhead.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||Last Friday at 9:49 PM|
Because it takes years of practice it wasn’t a skill she was interested in developing
|by Anonymous||reply 38||Last Friday at 10:02 PM|
She just became so ghetto towards the end. As if she had something to prove. Hey folks I am black. See I speak ghetto with the best of them.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||Last Friday at 10:39 PM|
[quote]She just became so ghetto towards the end. As if she had something to prove. Hey folks I am black. See I speak ghetto with the best of them.
That almost seemed like an affectation. Because -- at least in interviews -- in her earlier years she never spoke like that. Unless that persona was fake.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||Last Saturday at 2:14 AM|
[quote]I'd rather sing like Whitney Houston than dance like Janet Jackson
In retrospect, I don't think Janet was actually that amazing a dancer: She relied a lot on that choppy style, an army of backup dancers and the same few militaryesque moves. Paula Abdul was better.
She was good, but not otherworldly. Not as good a dancer as Whitney was a singer.
I know I have incurred the wrath of Janbot.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||Last Saturday at 2:18 AM|
I love listening to Whitney's voice in her prime even as she sang some awful material. It was so rich and sumptuous. I don't think any other pop singer could take I Will Always Love You and sing it in that slow arrangement and be so totally captivating.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||Last Saturday at 2:19 AM|
I'm not totally sold on her lesbianism, though it might be true and would explain a lot. She does look like a Subaru driver in the white outfit in this video.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||Last Saturday at 2:28 AM|
^^^Oh my gosh, Whitney is wearing the earring that all the stupid trendy boys are wearing now. R42 I agree. Her voice on her first two albums but most of her songs do suck. Why? I hear other songs from the time period and I'm like, why didn't Whitney sing this? Most of her albums are fillers. On Bodyguard she sounds good but her voice was already starting to deepen there. Not much good material in her catalogue at all. Such a waste. Her voice in the beginning was soooo BEAUTIFUL.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||Last Saturday at 7:55 AM|
MY LOVE IS YOUR LOVE is a great album (that only one of hers that could be described that way). Beyond that she had some good songs and some dreck filler.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||Last Saturday at 8:03 AM|
[quote]And yet the Whitney in the video is anything but sexy (purple eyeshadow aside).
All the colors were so childlike. That seems like active desexualization to me. I think circa MLIYL is the only time she ever came close to seeming sexy. That album was her career's best.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||Last Saturday at 8:06 AM|
I liked her later stuff MUCH better. Her bad wig era was much more interesting. Million Dollar Bill is by far my favorite song she sings. Even with the early onset of old lady voice.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||Last Saturday at 8:06 AM|
[quote]I know I have incurred the wrath of Janbot.
Yes, and your punishment for being so incredibly stupid and tasteless will be coming swiftly and succinctly.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||Last Saturday at 8:23 AM|
Whitney may not have been a great dancer, but she was Janet Jackson compared to the incredibly rhythmless Mariah Carey, who can’t even strut across a stage correctly.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||Last Saturday at 8:25 AM|
Janet has danced 40 million dance moves...
*cue copy and paste of her dancing achievements*
|by Anonymous||reply 50||Last Saturday at 8:27 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 51||Last Saturday at 8:27 AM|
For the same reason that her signature sound was a shrill caterwaul.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||Last Saturday at 8:33 AM|
[quote]Doncha wanna dance with someone who loves me?
That's such a stupid lyric.
No, I want to dance with someone who love ME.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||Last Saturday at 8:57 AM|
I saw her live in concert and it was amusing how stiff she was on stage. She danced like a white person.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||Last Saturday at 8:57 AM|
You don't have to be a great Paula Abdul type dancer if you have some rhythm and can command the stage like Cher and Diana Ross. For someone like Whitney or Streisand voice alone will always be front and center. If you're Helen Reddy however...
|by Anonymous||reply 55||Last Saturday at 9:11 AM|
She was molded for a white audience and it stuck, somewhat. Specifically, a white preteen girl audience in the 80s. The LAST thing on that agenda is "good dancing". It was mostly about how big you could get your hair and how many colors of eyeshadow you could fit onto your lidspace.
The I Wanna Dance W Somebody video to me, as a little white girl, was like opening up a beautiful Barbie doll on Christmas. She was made to look like Barbie on purpose in that video. And w her figure and height it was probably easy for them to make that decision.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||Last Saturday at 9:28 AM|
Other black folk had mainstream appeal without seeming so stiff -- like Diana Ross.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||Last Saturday at 9:34 AM|
Diana Ross is still criticized in the black community for acting white/aloof/etc. What the black community gets wrong about this is that these are women who've been immersed in "White" culture for their entire careers, their bosses and colleagues that are overwhelmingly white, touring white European countries, and not having a strong connection to their impoverished roots(naturally). Put acting posh for your public persona on top of that, not wanting to scare away your "audience", and you become an almost 100% "fake" character.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||Last Saturday at 9:39 AM|
I get the feeling that Diana Ross was born naturally snobby and reserved and benign, which she is.
Tina Turner is interesting. Much less 'white' stage persona, but offstage she's said things like Africans are lazy and ugly and is now married to a white man and lives in Switzerland.
Dionne Warwick, despite her Burt Bacharach sound, has sometimes seemed to fulfill the worst black stereotypes.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||Last Saturday at 9:47 AM|
I think Tina was just won over by Europe. She hated America and her memories there, she wanted to break up permanently. Who knows why she made those idiotic remarks about Africa. Maybe she thought it fit, to her new Euro audience? She is a good example of "not going Black" though.
I think when there's abuse and tragedy involved we really can't judge how a public figure chooses to present themselves. Whitney included. With her church-heirarchy background I wouldn't be surprised if there was some abuse in her childhood as well, a la Aretha Franklin.
Fans forget that stardom is a job until the day you die.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||Last Saturday at 9:55 AM|
[quote] Whitney Houston was just a dumb woman. A flat out, dumb woman.
But she was LOUD, Whitney was very, very LOUD. Which made her a great singer in the minds of dullards, anyway.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||Last Saturday at 9:58 AM|
[quote]Why couldn't she dance?
She just couldn't. She didn't have it in her.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||Last Saturday at 9:59 AM|
I don't think any pop singer had a more beautiful voice than hers.
And I don't think anyone threw away their talent to the same extent either.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||Last Saturday at 10:17 AM|
R4. That was a popular 80s look. Chill, child.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||Last Saturday at 10:32 AM|
[quote]Most of her albums are fillers.
I disagree. This is my fave song from her second album. If this is what is called filler, then I’m happily a fan.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||Last Saturday at 10:38 AM|
Whitney had a great voice, but man, "I Wanna Dance with Somebody" seems to be one of her most played songs since she passed away, and it's just an ok song. Clive Davis really was good at promoting her, but had rather crummy taste in songs for her to sing. Her cousin Dionne Warwick's songs, mostly by Burt Bacharach and Hal David, are so much better as songs. I'd rather they played "The Greatest Love of All" or Whitney's version of Dolly Parton's "I Will Always Love You" over "I Wanna Dance", because the latter really isn't that good of a song.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||Last Saturday at 10:46 AM|
WTF do you mean that I can’t dance?
|by Anonymous||reply 67||Last Saturday at 10:48 AM|
Lesbians and Gays Unite!
|by Anonymous||reply 68||Last Saturday at 10:58 AM|
Whitney’s sexiest song was another underrated album track from 1998’s My Love is Your Love. By then she’d become too big for Clive to control so I don’t think that album was his vision.
I love the way her voice dips at 1:05 when she says “masculine”
|by Anonymous||reply 69||Last Saturday at 11:05 AM|
Lots of closeups - that will do the trick:
|by Anonymous||reply 70||Last Saturday at 11:04 AM|
Whitney may not have been a dancer, but she had rhythm. You can hear in her old R&B up-tempos. It’s something only black people appear to have. No white person on earth can sing this song, without messing up the tempo (try it), but it came so naturally and effortlessly to Whitney.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||Last Saturday at 11:24 AM|
Op, you can’t dance either.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||Last Saturday at 11:30 AM|
[quote]Whitney's version of Dolly Parton's "I Will Always Love You"
LOL It’s Whitney’s song, child. No one thinks of it as a Dolly Parton song. Even Dolly says so and she’s okay with it. It happened quite a lot.
Frank Sinatra stole ‘New York, New York’ from Liza Minnelli; Aretha Franklin stole ‘Respect’ from Otis Redding and even Sinhead O’Connor stole ‘Nothing Compares to You’ from Prince.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||Last Saturday at 11:34 AM|
Dolly wrote it and gets the residuals.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||Last Saturday at 11:44 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 75||Last Saturday at 11:46 AM|
[quote]But she was LOUD, Whitney was very, very LOUD. Which made her a great singer in the minds of dullards, anyway.
Whitney was not loud. Celine Dion is loud, Whitney was not. She was a greater singer with an extraordinarily beautiful voice. I like that people are linking her lesser known songs so you know her big hits weren’t necessarily her best stuff.
This is no frills Whitney at her purest.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||Last Saturday at 11:52 AM|
Whitney couldn't dance for shit but she had lots of stage presence and charisma when she was relaxed and enjoying herself. She got to let loose a little in the "So Emotional" video, wearing first jeans and a leather jacket in the "rehearsal" part of the video, and a fab power bitch suit in the "live performance" part. Out of a glamorous gown and with some room to move around the stage she looked like she was actually having fun and comfortable in her clothes.
Too bad she couldn't enjoy an image that was clearly more aligned with who she was as a person--a slightly butch glam.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||Last Saturday at 11:55 AM|
She was Crack Dancing.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||Last Saturday at 11:56 AM|
[quote]Dolly wrote it and gets the residuals.
That is true. And Dolly even says on stage that “Whitney sure made me a lot of money”. But that’s not what we’re talking about.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||Last Saturday at 12:04 PM|
If I Told You That is one of her best uptempo songs. She should've done more stuff like that. And like her MLIYL album, or even Aretha's A Rose Is Still A Rose or Natalie Cole's Snowfall on the Sahara albums.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||Last Saturday at 12:18 PM|
I will never forget her and Bobby dancing about the stage on "Divas Live Las Vegas."
They were both high AF. Just jittery and bouncing all over the place.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||Last Saturday at 12:37 PM|
R67 I love her in that video. You can tell she's having fun. I like that song too, however it's ironic she is singing it. Same with "Greatest Love". People saying "I Wanna Dance" is not good is straight up TRIPPIN. That fuckin song kills. I just heard it in the grocery store today and it took all my strength to not start dancing and singing slong. Every wedding I've been to gets the same reaction from EVERYONE. It's a pop CLASSIC. I also saw Tina Turner say in an interview that she thought black people listened to too many sad songs. That, that's what R&B was and she didn't like that. That's why she sang rock n roll.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||Last Saturday at 2:15 PM|
You're full of shit, R73.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||Last Saturday at 6:27 PM|
Is ‘Respect’ an Aretha Franklin song or an Otis Redding song? Is ‘My Way’ Frank Sinatra’s or Paul Anka’s? ‘Blue Suede Shoes’ Elvis Presley’s or Carl Perkins’? ‘That’s What Friends Are For’ Dionne Warwick’s or Rod Stewart’s? It’s not even a debate. The originators/songwriters lost out to bigger, better talent.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||Last Saturday at 8:10 PM|
She couldn't dance but she did have the ratio of beauty and talent than any other female pop star.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||Yesterday at 2:11 AM|
The episode about Nels being ashamed of his fat sister was great.
BUT, let me tell you what I saw on Oprah one time.
The episode featured housekeepers of the rich and famous and Oprah asked each one to name their biggest disappointment.
One of the women named Michael Landon and Oprah was just shocked. The woman said Landon constantly made insulting fat jokes about her.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||Yesterday at 8:24 AM|
Whitney was a dumb woman. Mariah is slightly smarter than her but still a dumb one. Janet is the dumbest one without a doubt.
Celine and Jennifer are very smart business women on the other hand.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||Yesterday at 8:33 AM|
Whitney seemed like she had some kind of deeper problems (family, I suspect) than the others.
Happy people don't become drug addicts.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||11 hours ago|
Her family was disgusting. Clearly shown in that horrible documentary "Whitney" they produced. Her gross brothers. The half brother. Her ugly ass mother. Her piece of shit father. She should have run into Kevin Costner's arms for real and cut them ALL off. She didn't have the courage and confidence, or the sexual attraction from what we hear. I heard she was bisexual when I was in middle school after she married Bobby. A girl groupie I knew went to Bobby's concert backstage and he told her Whitney was bisexual. I didn't believe it but always remembered that. And now....
|by Anonymous||reply 89||10 hours ago|