She was born on March 12, 1946. Any love for Liza as she turns 73 years old today?
She's fabulous, and we all love her.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | March 12, 2019 3:04 PM |
It'sh shtime to shcelebrate! Shend in the clownsh!
by Anonymous | reply 4 | March 12, 2019 3:09 PM |
Mother and daughter.
How could Liza not be great with a mother - Judy Garland - who was one of the greatest superstars of all time?
by Anonymous | reply 5 | March 12, 2019 3:11 PM |
She sure has lived longer than I would have imagined.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | March 12, 2019 3:15 PM |
Then and now. Give the girl a break - she's in her 70's now.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | March 12, 2019 3:19 PM |
I was molested.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | March 12, 2019 3:20 PM |
I like Blue....
by Anonymous | reply 9 | March 12, 2019 3:22 PM |
Liza got the coveted Oscar for her greatest on screen performance in Cabaret.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | March 12, 2019 3:23 PM |
Singing with Mom on her TV show back in the 1960's.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | March 12, 2019 3:26 PM |
I never had a famous mother who paved the way for me. I had to claw my way to the top.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | March 12, 2019 3:29 PM |
I went to one of her concerts a few years ago. She couldn't make it straight through any number without stopping and hacking. Plus she was either high, drunk or both. The other tacky gays in the audience cheered her on and were yelling that they loved her. I thought it was atrocious. She was a mess.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | March 12, 2019 3:37 PM |
When Dean Martin dropped out of the road show, She replaced him and I saw Liza perform with Sammy Davis Jr and Frank Sinatra!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes I did. I was a mere child of 16, but I was in heaven. Mama took me. She knew.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | March 12, 2019 4:40 PM |
I too saw her a few years ago in Rancho Mirage. Lorna was in the audience (not being molested) and it was a really good concert, all things being said. Of course the voice was nowhere near what it once was, but her sense of theatricality was totally on spot.
So give the old girl her due. All those surgeries and medical emergencies (and high drama) have taken her toll, but it was a good ride.
Happy Birthday, Liza May.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | March 12, 2019 5:17 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 19 | March 12, 2019 6:35 PM |
Liza's movie debut, with Mama and Van Johnson, in "In the Good Old Summertime."
by Anonymous | reply 21 | March 12, 2019 7:32 PM |
Who molested Lorna?
by Anonymous | reply 22 | March 12, 2019 8:28 PM |
Streisand was first offered the lead role in Cabaret. But I think Liza pulled off the definitive role of Sally Bowles.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | March 12, 2019 8:45 PM |
Liza will always be fabulous. She was really great as Lucille II in Arrested Development, and had a great sense of humor, especially about herself.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | March 12, 2019 8:57 PM |
R20 Yes! Oh fuck...can someone find the thread about when she was off her tits on QVC? I'm looking but no luck so far.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | March 12, 2019 9:22 PM |
Happy Birthday to the beautiful and delightful Liza. Her talent can never be compared to today’s, because she shines.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | March 12, 2019 9:41 PM |
Happy Birthday, Liza.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | March 12, 2019 9:42 PM |
She doesn't look a day over 87.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | March 12, 2019 9:48 PM |
Dear Miss Minnelli, I was pre-pubescent small town cub when I saw "Cabaret" and left the movie theater in a daze knowing there is a world out there completely different from the one I knew, but could never relate to. Sally Bowles made me feel like I had two mothers: one mental, different from the biological one - 10 years before I could actually come to terms with my sexual identity. Thank you so much for your presence and your talent, that like a star shine a little bright light into our lives. Very Happy Birthday!!!!!
by Anonymous | reply 30 | March 12, 2019 10:06 PM |
Love your post, R30.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | March 12, 2019 10:07 PM |
R30 your sweet post gave me goosebumps. Thank you for sharing!
by Anonymous | reply 32 | March 12, 2019 10:13 PM |
Thank you R31 and R32 ...
by Anonymous | reply 33 | March 12, 2019 10:22 PM |
All the best to Liza!
by Anonymous | reply 34 | March 12, 2019 10:35 PM |
Love you, Liza. Thanks for the music and the memories. Your magic will live forever in your recordings and films.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | March 12, 2019 10:54 PM |
She's the best.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | March 12, 2019 11:06 PM |
Liza, you're fabulous.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | March 12, 2019 11:09 PM |
I love her. Happy birthday, Liza.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | March 12, 2019 11:15 PM |
Today belongs to her.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | March 12, 2019 11:17 PM |
F&F for R4.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | March 12, 2019 11:22 PM |
Have they issued a stamp?
by Anonymous | reply 41 | March 12, 2019 11:24 PM |
Happy Birthday, Liza! There aren't too many people who can command a stadium like she does.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | March 12, 2019 11:32 PM |
You've got to hand it to her -- she kept topping herself decade after decade -- exhilarating performances. I saw her many times and, good as she was in Cabaret and in Liza with a Z, Liza's greatest strength is live performance. She brings the house down again and again. I first saw her live in 1976, just before New York, New York came out, full of raw energy. She was astounding in The Act -- lighting fast costume changes, powerhouse songs. Her 1980 concerts at Carnegie Hall was a new Liza -- more focused, channelling her talents more precisely. The Rink was haunting, and Liza playing a burnt out ex-hippy was different. She had one dazzling number the seared into your heard -- "All the Children in a Row" -- that anyone who came of age in that era was moved by. Carnegie Hall in 1987 was like a lightning bolt -- spot on. Radio City in 1990 and 1991 was a fun frolic, with all of Liza's Demon Divas. She and Aznavour together in 1992 -- they loved performing together, even though the were both better solo. Minnelli on Minnelli -- Liza was struggling with a cold, but great production values won the day. Liza's Back -- a departure, but some great moments. Liza's at the Palace -- another fun romp. There were other concerts, too, but each one of those live performances was a thrill.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | March 12, 2019 11:35 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 44 | March 12, 2019 11:36 PM |
Let's shout birthday wishes to the rooftops, just like her singing.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | March 12, 2019 11:38 PM |
Between the release of CABARET and the Oscar ceremony the following spring, I saw a young and nearly perfect Liza Minnelli perform in concert. At the Indiana State Fair.
The Oscar got her out of venues like that for decades. 10 years ago, more or less, I saw her perform a summer concert in Asser Levy Park in Brighton Beach, Brooklyn. The neighborhood is heavily Russian. The Russian ladies turned out in force to see Liza. They were all black eyeliner, cigarettes, and huge smiles. "Ya, yah.... She is good. Good as mother." They all sang along to "New York, New York." I didn't know who to watch.
In some ways, the moment linked below is her best. NO ONE could have done what she does here.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | March 12, 2019 11:41 PM |
Is Lorna doing OK after collapsing while performing at Domino's Pizza in London?
by Anonymous | reply 47 | March 12, 2019 11:45 PM |
Did the Domino’s Pizza have a breakfast nook for Lorna to collapse into?
by Anonymous | reply 48 | March 12, 2019 11:48 PM |
19 more years and she'll outlive Deanna Durbin! Happy birthday, Liza!
by Anonymous | reply 50 | March 12, 2019 11:53 PM |
Liza gave a sang at a prison yard in Illinois in June or July of1972. Joliet prison or maybe it was just the Cook County jail. I remember an article with photos in the Chicago Today newspaper the day it happened. Sounds very WTF but there's a slice of 1972 life for you.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | March 13, 2019 12:30 AM |
Thanks boysch!
by Anonymous | reply 52 | March 13, 2019 12:31 AM |
Cabaret was a central experience in my coming out. Both her performance and Michael York's performance out me - Mary yes! - on the road to comment my out. A month after the Oscar I saw her live in Chicago and I was "I guess I'm really gay now!" For those reasons she is beyond age to me, yes another "Mary!!" (It was also Liza With a Z" time as well.)
The movie New York New York was supposed to move her career forward but her film career never recovered.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | March 13, 2019 12:35 AM |
When I saw her live in concert in 1981 for the first time I was 17. It was then that I knew I was gay.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | March 13, 2019 12:47 AM |
What room you so long, R54
by Anonymous | reply 55 | March 13, 2019 12:49 AM |
R51 that was at the time she sang at the Arie Crown Theater aka Cavern in Chicago. See R53
by Anonymous | reply 56 | March 13, 2019 12:51 AM |
What took you so long, R54?
by Anonymous | reply 57 | March 13, 2019 12:53 AM |
"Stepping Out" (1991) was the nadir of Liza's film career. She was on every talk-show possible flogging it with the same old, bad clip from the movie.
It was supposed to be her comeback movie featuring dancing and singing with a group of misfits. It was rightly billed as "The comedy with two left feet".
When released it crashed at the box office and only took in a little over a quarter of a million dollars then went straight to video.
She never again had a starring role in a big screen movie.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | March 13, 2019 1:26 AM |
Two of my favorite albums are "Liza Minnelli" (1968) and "Come Saturday Morning" (1969).
It's Liza in her pre-Cabaret kooky waif persona.
She sings Randy Newman and Harry Nilsson before they were well known. The selection of songs is eccentric and fits her personality.
She's not a great voice here but she gives a delight interpretation to the material.
If you're a Liza fan and don't know those discs, take a listen. Really enjoyable.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | March 13, 2019 1:45 AM |
*delightful
by Anonymous | reply 62 | March 13, 2019 1:46 AM |
I had the Liza Minnelli “Foursider” album which had all that material, R61. Loved it!
by Anonymous | reply 63 | March 13, 2019 2:02 AM |
Happy Birthday Liza! I had never seen that Bad Girls video before, that was amazing! Liza sure could dance!!
by Anonymous | reply 64 | March 13, 2019 2:03 AM |
Tragic creature.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | March 13, 2019 2:13 AM |
She's an EGOT - even though her Grammy was not a competitive one - it was a "Grammy legend" award. So in a way that's better.
Streisand's Tony is also non competitive; she was given the "Star of the Decade" award in 1970.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | March 13, 2019 2:18 AM |
That isn't better. A true EGOT wins in all categories.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | March 13, 2019 2:21 AM |
R68 = Philip Michael Thomas
by Anonymous | reply 69 | March 13, 2019 2:34 AM |
And how many awards a true IDIOT like R68 has ever won or ever will?
by Anonymous | reply 70 | March 13, 2019 2:49 AM |
Liza Minnelli is the only legend left alive ... if you can think of another just mention it ... just don't bring Olivia or Madonna, if you don't want to be laughed at .... Happy Birthday!!!
by Anonymous | reply 71 | March 13, 2019 2:55 AM |
I get sad when I see those glamorous pictures of nights long ago. Life is kind of a cosmic joke, isn't it?
Happy Birthday, Liza. Thanks for all the years of pure entertainment.
by Anonymous | reply 72 | March 13, 2019 2:56 AM |
She was incredible at her peak. I wonder if she misses the 70s.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | March 13, 2019 3:05 AM |
Liza Minnelli is the only person in the whole wide world that made me enjoy a Stephen Sondheim song. For that alone she deserves not only the Grammy but the fucking Nobel Prize!
by Anonymous | reply 74 | March 13, 2019 3:10 AM |
I have had no idea Studio 54 held AA meetings ...
by Anonymous | reply 76 | March 13, 2019 3:16 AM |
That's how they were able to get around that liquor license problem, r76.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | March 13, 2019 3:30 AM |
Don't forget Kirk Douglas, R71.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | March 13, 2019 3:32 AM |
Oh! And Baby Peggy is still around. She turned 100 last October.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | March 13, 2019 3:33 AM |
Fabulous, R65. Kids, THAT’S how we dressed to dance, not the polyester stereotype.
It was the shoes that were important.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | March 13, 2019 3:42 AM |
Also, Kirk Douglas is a big old movie star, not a legend.
by Anonymous | reply 81 | March 13, 2019 3:45 AM |
Liza only made 12 big screen movies. Despite her Oscar win for Cabaret, musicals were on the way out and even with her terrific energy and musical talent her eccentric looks (she was not a beautiful woman or a sex symbol) worked against her as a romantic leading lady. Hollywood didn't quite know what do to with her and she fared out much better in live concert performances and Broadway than movies.
by Anonymous | reply 82 | March 13, 2019 3:50 AM |
I've met her twice -- Once when I was a kid trying to get her autograph and then years later when I briefly worked with her. Both times she could not have been nicer.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | March 13, 2019 3:56 AM |
After her pivotal role of Cabaret which put Liza on the A List, she waited 3 years to make another movie. "Lucky Lady" was a piece of dreck and it didn't help that Gene Hackman got top billing and was given a much bigger salary for the movie than her. It harmed her movie career and she never again went back to her glory days of Cabaret.
by Anonymous | reply 84 | March 13, 2019 4:01 AM |
Liza is a national treasure. I have seen her a half a dozen times in concert. She was sensational. Electric! No one has the stage presence or can perform like Liza. There was no one like her. She's enormously talented. I got to meet her once when I worked with her. She was lovely, charming, chatty, funny and oh so gracious. Her mother raised a warm, kind and wonderful person. Liza is show business royalty. I love her.
Happy Birthday, Liza. You're a doll.
by Anonymous | reply 85 | March 13, 2019 4:02 AM |
Liza never had album sales like "Judy at Carnegie Hall."
But she has lived much longer than her mother. And that is what really counts.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | March 13, 2019 4:02 AM |
Hopefully she won't die on the shitter, but her taste in men is like Mamas.
by Anonymous | reply 87 | March 13, 2019 4:04 AM |
Liza is a dynamic performer on stage, one of the best. Here she is performing for the Queen of England.
by Anonymous | reply 88 | March 13, 2019 4:09 AM |
And later she meets the Queen who smiles radiantly at her.
by Anonymous | reply 89 | March 13, 2019 4:12 AM |
Rhetorical Question: If Lucille Ball would have approved of Desi Jr. dating Liza do you think Marriage would have been in the cards?
I liked Desi and Liza together.
I know this can be a difficult question, because one can not change the past. It’s the what if’s...
by Anonymous | reply 90 | March 13, 2019 4:16 AM |
I respectfully disegree R78, Kirk "raping dimples"Douglas just like Olivia de "so young" Havilland is/was a famous Hollwood actor. Neither have the iconic status that Liza Minnelli have achieved. Granted it is restricted to gay fraction of the population, but seriously the notions of straight and culture don't mix together very well.
by Anonymous | reply 91 | March 13, 2019 4:39 AM |
You've I do like your sense of reasoning R77
by Anonymous | reply 92 | March 13, 2019 4:51 AM |
I do like your sense of reasoning R77
by Anonymous | reply 93 | March 13, 2019 5:20 AM |
Speaking of Minnelli, I'm interested to see the Judy Garland movie being released in September. It's so refreshing to finally see a Hollywood biopic cover someone besides fucking Marilyn Monroe. Maybe one day Minnelli will get her own biopic.
by Anonymous | reply 94 | March 13, 2019 6:11 AM |
Yes, Chrissy Metz IS Liza. All Chrissy has to do is sit in a wheelchair, and talk/sing off key. Maybe Chalamet as Michael Feinstein.
by Anonymous | reply 95 | March 13, 2019 6:22 AM |
OP: Gorgeous photo of Liza. She deserves to be posted twice.
Liza is the greatest. Happy Birthday, sweetheart.
by Anonymous | reply 96 | March 13, 2019 9:04 AM |
For somebody who had such an insanely fucked-up childhood, Liza is remarkably down-to-earth and a good person. Lots of people would've been total nutjobs if they'd gone through what she did.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | March 13, 2019 1:56 PM |
It's too bad that she's in such poor health though. She's a poster hold for drugs and drink.
by Anonymous | reply 98 | March 13, 2019 2:32 PM |
What's wrong with her, health-wise?
by Anonymous | reply 99 | March 13, 2019 5:26 PM |
Two hips, three replacements. Knee replacements. Scoliosis. Arthritis. Encephalitis. Jazz Hands. Whim Whams and Scurvy.
by Anonymous | reply 100 | March 13, 2019 5:38 PM |
Jazz Hands, lol. But I feel bad about Liza -- a friend knows her and says that she is a really sweet person. Hope she is feeling better nowadays.
by Anonymous | reply 101 | March 13, 2019 5:47 PM |
Just a reminder of her onstage charm. This was cut from "Liza With a Z" because it was too raunchy. How quaint.
I wish the girl playing her in the Fosse thing weren't so... puny.
Liza was ZAFTIG!
by Anonymous | reply 102 | March 13, 2019 5:54 PM |
Liza really is someone who must be seen live on stage. Her energy was just out of this world and she was a true storyteller. She's a way better actress than people give her credit for. I remember her on some British talent show giving these actresses/singers advice on singing Maybe This Time and she was so smart and so articulate and so in tune with what the song was trying to say. She did something similar on Kathy Griffin's old reality show where she coached her for a role on SVU and she was terrific. She really knows what she's doing. Her voice was a powerhouse of the Merman variety - not pretty, but powerful. Merman didn't really translate well on recordings either. A true Broadway singing actress, which we don't have many of today.
by Anonymous | reply 103 | March 13, 2019 5:59 PM |
She did my favorite "Rose's Turn" form Gypsy. A shame she never played Rose on stage or on film/TV. She would have nailed it. I believe she was offered the Tyne Daly revival, but didn't want to play the role 8 shows a week because she thought it would be exhausted. With as much as Liza puts into every performance, I could understand and respect that.
by Anonymous | reply 104 | March 13, 2019 6:01 PM |
A "What if..?/"How would it have worked? "
Liza in "What's Up, Doc? "
by Anonymous | reply 105 | March 13, 2019 6:23 PM |
How very dare you R105
by Anonymous | reply 106 | March 13, 2019 6:24 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 108 | March 13, 2019 9:31 PM |
Drop-dead gorgeous Broadway star Kelli Barrett is playing Liza in the FOSSE/VERDON series... she's insanely talented but very thin/fit and arguably much better voice than Liza at her peak, so as long as they play up the fabulosity I think she will be fine. BTW she is married to THE CHER SHOW star Jarrod Spector (Sonny Bono) who is similarly way too sexy/talented for the role he is currently playing. Did Sonny even know what abs were?
by Anonymous | reply 109 | March 13, 2019 9:58 PM |
Liza Minnelli doing a cameo appearance in Mel Brooks hit film, Silent Movie.
by Anonymous | reply 110 | March 14, 2019 4:19 AM |
Liza’s beauty is flawless, IMHO.
by Anonymous | reply 112 | March 14, 2019 4:30 AM |
R46 That really is a remarkable piece of video. And you're right. No one else in the world could do what she does there, or ever could. *Maybe* her mother. But, if nothing else Liza has a unique talent.
by Anonymous | reply 114 | March 14, 2019 5:29 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 116 | March 14, 2019 5:35 AM |
R116 and thus began Liza's love of gay men at 1:23
by Anonymous | reply 117 | March 14, 2019 5:39 AM |
R46 is delusional. Or maybe Liza. No one could've sung it better? That's hilarious.
The poor thing was doomed from the start. No one could possibly compare to her mother, but growing up in that family she had no choice. The Oscar for Cabaret was a condolence 'gift', just a few years after Garland's death. And even Liza herself knew she could never compare, never ever be anywhere near as good, hence the close to 50 year heavy drug habit.
I will give her this though: When she was very young, as in the clip that R115 posted, she had a decent voice and clearly showed talent. The pressure was just too great for it to last very long...
by Anonymous | reply 118 | March 14, 2019 5:42 AM |
I agree that at her best, Judy was better than all but a very few performer, especially in person..
by Anonymous | reply 119 | March 14, 2019 5:48 AM |
A condolence Oscar? Have you even seen "Cabaret"?
by Anonymous | reply 120 | March 14, 2019 5:50 AM |
Yup. She was okay, but her screeching was over the top.
by Anonymous | reply 121 | March 14, 2019 5:52 AM |
R118 I didn't say no one could've sung it better at all. I don't think that.
I said no one could do what she does in that clip, which is holding the ENTIRE audience of Giants Stadium in the palm of her hand. And that utterly incredible 3rd fucking finale she does- no one would have the balls to do that. I find that piece of tape to be electric. Absolutely astounding.
Judy, at her best, was a better singer. But Liza had her mom's ability to sell a song and knock it across the footlights.
by Anonymous | reply 122 | March 14, 2019 5:53 AM |
Thanks R122, that helps clarify your views. I agree Liza COULD sell a song from time to time, but that faded WAY too quickly.
And I would counter that Whitney Houston did just as well, if not better, during her 1991 performance of the Star Spangled Banner at the Super Bowl. Certainly had a better overall voice. But she too ruined it all with her drug use. Very sad for both...
by Anonymous | reply 123 | March 14, 2019 6:02 AM |
I was mosleted!
by Anonymous | reply 125 | March 14, 2019 6:18 AM |
MOSLETED!
by Anonymous | reply 126 | March 14, 2019 6:25 AM |
Liza's performance in Cabaret is terrific and has stood the test of time. Her Oscar was well-earned, especially considering it was a tough year. Diana Ross and Cicely Tyson were also deserving. But so was Liza.
And I'll always prefer her version of New York, New York to Frank's.
by Anonymous | reply 127 | March 14, 2019 6:36 AM |
R123 Whitney is great there, sure.
I was never a Liza fan until later adulthood. This is much a MARY! thing but I can remember being down over a guy, and crying watching Judy sing The Man That Got Away from her TV show. I never believed Liza capable of doing anything like it.
Then, I saw performances like this. Liza feels every word, every NOTE of this song. Her buildup is like her mother's doing Rock-a-Bye-Your-Baby. This is a pretty brilliant performance of The World Goes 'Round.
And then, I was finally old enough to appreciate how utterly perfect she was in Cabaret. It's a flawless performance.
So yeah, when I got older, I came to appreciate her. Only my wisdom made me take a second look. I was wrong about her for years.
by Anonymous | reply 128 | March 14, 2019 6:49 AM |
What a magnificent performance... thanks for the story, R128. I'd never seen this clip before. Nobody else can touch Liza. Plus, knowing her BFF Fred Ebb and John Kander tailor-made this song and so many more just to her, it's not unlike Harold Arlen writing for Judy. Haters will hate, but Liza on K&E tunes is the definition of spectacular. "And The World Goes Round", "Maybe This Time" and "New York, New York" are as good as it gets.
by Anonymous | reply 129 | March 14, 2019 9:19 AM |
Happy Birthday, Liza. Thank you for your enormous talent, unique and beautiful presence and will to go on. xo
by Anonymous | reply 130 | March 14, 2019 10:59 AM |
You were late. Her birthday is over.
by Anonymous | reply 131 | March 14, 2019 1:13 PM |
[quote]Have they issued a stamp?
You have to be dead before they honor you with a stamp. And who uses stamps anymore?
by Anonymous | reply 132 | March 14, 2019 3:04 PM |
I once read in Billboard circa realy 90s that she was in the studio with Shep Pettibone, perhaps for a Results follow-up. What I wouldn't give to hear those tracks. Love Liza.
by Anonymous | reply 134 | March 14, 2019 3:28 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 135 | March 14, 2019 4:12 PM |
Sorry, R118, but the no reference to singing appears anywhere in my post.
Kiss!
by Anonymous | reply 136 | March 14, 2019 5:47 PM |
According to Stevie Phillips, Liza's former manager, she had a big production deal set up for Liza in the early 70s--Liza would have helped produce her own pictures, which would have made her a player and also allowed them to find her roles that suited her quirky talents. The deal fell apart when Liza fired Stevie in favor of her boyfriend Desi Arnaz Jr.'s marriage, supposedly to try to impress Lucille Ball, who disapproved of Liza. The new manager sent her out on tour after tour, which paid her well and let her party her ass off, but allowed her movie career to wither on the vine. She never revived it again.
Phillips' book is worth reading: It's a fast, fun, juicy read.
by Anonymous | reply 137 | March 14, 2019 6:21 PM |
Desi Arnaz Jr.'s MANAGER--don't know why it came out 'marriage' in the above post.
by Anonymous | reply 138 | March 14, 2019 6:22 PM |
It is a shame she didn't do more movies. She is a good actress.
by Anonymous | reply 139 | March 15, 2019 1:59 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 140 | March 15, 2019 10:44 PM |
"When I schould have schouted and schcremed inschead, Scho Schorry I Schaid"
Did The Pet Shop Boys purposely put that many s's in the lyrics so Liza would have to schay them?
by Anonymous | reply 141 | March 18, 2019 9:12 PM |
Minnelli is an overrated bore.
by Anonymous | reply 142 | March 18, 2019 9:32 PM |
I suspect you never saw her live, at her peak.
by Anonymous | reply 143 | March 18, 2019 10:01 PM |
@R142 . And no doubt "bore" is something you know quite well.
by Anonymous | reply 144 | March 18, 2019 11:18 PM |
Face it R144, she's a tired old has-been and her schtick is tedious.
by Anonymous | reply 145 | March 18, 2019 11:21 PM |
@R145 . "Tired, old, has-been, schtick, tedious". That's quite a toolbox that you have there !
by Anonymous | reply 146 | March 18, 2019 11:27 PM |
R146 - she's so fresh and ground-breaking!
by Anonymous | reply 147 | March 18, 2019 11:30 PM |
She's been through much diversity!
by Anonymous | reply 148 | March 18, 2019 11:33 PM |
[quote] How could Liza not be great with a mother - Judy Garland - who was one of the greatest superstars of all time?
That'sh jusht what I alwaysh tell Joey! How can he NOT be shenshational with shuch a shupershtar ash a mother?
by Anonymous | reply 149 | March 18, 2019 11:35 PM |
Boysch, Boysch!
by Anonymous | reply 151 | March 18, 2019 11:38 PM |
I was molested.
by Anonymous | reply 152 | March 19, 2019 12:44 AM |
I like sequins
by Anonymous | reply 153 | March 19, 2019 12:49 AM |
R142, loves thrilling performers like Laura Osnes and Kelli O'Hara
by Anonymous | reply 154 | March 19, 2019 1:24 AM |
Has anyone seen her out? Even wheeled into The Abbey ala Liz?
by Anonymous | reply 155 | March 19, 2019 1:34 AM |
Lascht time I schaw her (in this totally schpontaneous clip):
by Anonymous | reply 156 | March 19, 2019 1:39 AM |
Liza appears to be much nicer to her fans and people in general than many other celebrities. Gotta give her credit for being a sweetheart.
by Anonymous | reply 157 | March 19, 2019 2:14 AM |
[quote] NO ONE could do what she does here.
Or here!
by Anonymous | reply 158 | March 19, 2019 3:50 PM |
That TMZ video is 1 1/2 old.
by Anonymous | reply 159 | March 19, 2019 3:57 PM |
Agree R137. It's incomprehensible that Liza won the Oscar for Best Actress and didn't have a follow up film in theatres until three years later. If she'd followed the typical pattern, she'd have had 1-2 prestige studio films per year for the next few years. But she wanted to tour and party and then the moment was gone.
And she had done Liza with a Z on TV that year too!
by Anonymous | reply 160 | March 19, 2019 4:01 PM |
Touring seems much harder than making a movie. But Liza really needs to be seen in person, so she probably made the right choice.
by Anonymous | reply 161 | March 19, 2019 4:06 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 162 | March 19, 2019 4:10 PM |
Not so much R161. She can (and has) always tour. Film careers for women are only likely to take off and sustain within a short window of time in their youth. Being a bankable film star for a while opens the door to every other form of entertainment pretty much forever.
by Anonymous | reply 163 | March 19, 2019 4:17 PM |
I wonder if Desi Arnaz Jr. ever goes over to Sierra Towers and slips Liza the D, just for old time's sake.
by Anonymous | reply 165 | March 19, 2019 5:47 PM |
URGENT: Liza now has her own VEVO channel on YouTube
The video for "Losing My Mind" has been uploaded!
by Anonymous | reply 166 | March 19, 2019 6:54 PM |
I recently learned that she had her own rendition of "Rose's Turn". Fabulous! And then I listened to Liza With A Z for the first time. She really had something. It reminded me of Judy at Carnegie Hall. Anyway it's nice reading the memories here of older people who remember her from her prime. Wish I could've seen her then!
by Anonymous | reply 167 | March 19, 2019 7:30 PM |
Well, I hate to stick a pin in the balloon, but late last night, This Channel ran NEW YORK, NEW YORK and I decided to watch it. I had only seen in once, in a theater, when it first ran, and unfortunately I could only take about 45 minutes of it. WHAT a CLUNKER! They were BOTH awful in it. It must have been one coke fueled spectacular failure.
At least Liza got the song out of it, despite that asshole Sinatra hogging it for himself and doing a shitty rendition. It is Liza's voice that should be heard throughout Times Square every NYE. Sad!
by Anonymous | reply 168 | March 19, 2019 7:49 PM |
It's a movie that had no direction. Part old time musical, part romantic drama. DeNiro's character had no, and I mean no, redeeming or likable qualities. Liza's character appeared to be a doormat. You're right, Liza did get a good musical number out of it. In fact, all the music in it is first-rate. It's the plot, script, and direction that stunk.
by Anonymous | reply 169 | March 19, 2019 7:56 PM |
Liza has many talents, but I don't think improv is one of them. The script, as it is, of NYNY was largely improvised. Maybe if they'd handed out a toot of coke with the admission ticket, it would have been a hit. It was a "you had to be there" script and the audience wasn't in on the party.
Though I do quote the taxi scene in the birch forest as often as I can.
by Anonymous | reply 170 | March 19, 2019 8:12 PM |
And the World Goes Round is another great song in NYNY
by Anonymous | reply 171 | March 19, 2019 9:36 PM |
How come they got permission to exhume her?
by Anonymous | reply 172 | March 19, 2019 9:43 PM |
She's supposed to have Taurus rising. How do you see that in her?
by Anonymous | reply 173 | March 19, 2019 10:01 PM |
R173 The Taurus rising and its ruler Venus in Aries make her very confident and aggressive performer, but Venus is in the 12th house makes her a very hard worker behind the scenes. It makes sense that she grew up on movie sets watching movie magic get made and she truly appreciates the arts. Liza has Moon, Mars and Saturn conjunct in Cancer. Judy had Mercury, Pluto, Ascendant and Venus in Cancer. They are both sensitive and emotionally expressive. Liza has Sun in Pisces and Mercury in Aries which square her mother's Sun in Gemini and Mercury in Cancer respectively. The two definitely clashed but their Cancerian connection formed a very strong maternal bond between them.
by Anonymous | reply 174 | March 19, 2019 10:25 PM |
As well as the title song, Liza also got "The World Goes Round" out of NYNY. That's one of my personal favorites, love that song.
by Anonymous | reply 175 | March 19, 2019 11:47 PM |
I love the soundtrack to NYNY, but the movie is a dud.
by Anonymous | reply 176 | March 19, 2019 11:48 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 177 | March 19, 2019 11:49 PM |
R174 Also, Cancer is ruled by the moon and both represent the mother. So Liza has her moon in its home sign of Cancer, so she truly idolized her mother (with her many planets in Cancer) and thought Judy was the best at what she did and the same for her father Vincente, his Sun is in Pisces like Liza's and the Sun represents her father. She really did/does adore her parents.
by Anonymous | reply 178 | March 19, 2019 11:53 PM |
Happy Birthday gorgeous lady. Ps. I keep hoping you'll turn up in Arrested Development. Xxx
by Anonymous | reply 179 | March 19, 2019 11:54 PM |
I've seen the Victor/Victoria clip before - friends who saw her in the show thought she was fabulous. But she did that after the hip replacement, and when I watch the dance routines I can't help but look at her hips and think "ow. ouch. ow." Plus she ruined her vocal chords on that show as well.
by Anonymous | reply 180 | March 20, 2019 12:03 AM |
Lorna would've been better.
by Anonymous | reply 181 | March 20, 2019 12:30 AM |
I was molested!
by Anonymous | reply 182 | March 20, 2019 12:32 AM |
Elderly DL queens with a Liza obsession - almost as pathetic as the Madonna crazies.
by Anonymous | reply 183 | March 20, 2019 8:24 PM |
Yes, except Minnelli has talent.
by Anonymous | reply 184 | March 20, 2019 8:55 PM |
[quote]Plus she ruined her vocal chords on that show as well.
Oh, dear. Even C Sharp Major?
by Anonymous | reply 185 | March 21, 2019 1:08 AM |
No, Liza was not wonderful in Victor/Victoria. To me, she better in a less complex show like "Minnelli on Minnelli" at the Palace in New York.
by Anonymous | reply 186 | March 21, 2019 2:40 AM |
I don't know why people consider her ugly. Odd looking at times and unconventional, yeah, but not ugly.
by Anonymous | reply 187 | March 23, 2019 3:43 AM |
I was molested!
by Anonymous | reply 188 | March 23, 2019 4:42 AM |
Please R129. Yes, Liza is at her best in R128's clip, but to say that 'no one else could touch her is just absolute nonsense. Are you actually saying that Bernadette Peters or Streisand or Lena Horne (who was still sounding great) could not have sung it as well or even better?
My gawd, even Michelle Lee had a stronger and especially less strained singing voice. This clip cuts into her number halfway through and the sound quality isn't so great, but you can still hear she had a great voice.
by Anonymous | reply 189 | March 23, 2019 4:56 AM |
Why has she never had a hit?
by Anonymous | reply 190 | March 23, 2019 4:58 AM |
She wasn't a pop singer.
by Anonymous | reply 191 | March 23, 2019 5:09 AM |
'Results' is a great CD start-to-finish. Her version of "Tonight Is Forever" is transcendant.
by Anonymous | reply 192 | March 23, 2019 5:16 AM |
R189 Bernadette Peters with her kewpie doll shtick? Ice queen Lena Horne with her weirdo expressions? And Michelle Lee of all people? Michelle Lee ?? Shrill, zero stage presence. Not a clue...not a clue as to how to deliver a song.
Watch Liza. It's not just about voice. It's interpretation. It's honing down every little movement. It's knowing how to build the song, how to mine the lyrics for all they've got. How to weave a story and draw the audience in. Like her mother she knew how to tie every gesture, every nod of the head, every glance to the words she's singing.
And it's STYLE....Liza at her peak had that in spades. The eyes, the mouth, the signature hair cut...she was a Hirshfield caricature come to life.
by Anonymous | reply 193 | March 23, 2019 6:03 AM |
R192 I just don't think Liza's voice and persona works very well for pop. She's Kander & Ebb, she's B'way. The Standards.
She was also great singing storytelling songs....Randy Newman, Harry Nilsson. But for me anyway she just sounds so out of place singing pop or rock.
by Anonymous | reply 194 | March 23, 2019 6:15 AM |
R189 I doubt any of the people you mentioned could hold the entirety of Giants stadium in the palm of their hand singing New York, New York. And remember, those people didn't specifically pay to see Liza. I think the talent she displays in that tape is unique. Could someone sing it technically better? Sure. My Aunt Jane could. But very few could captivate 82,000 people like she does there.
by Anonymous | reply 195 | March 23, 2019 6:27 AM |
I like blue.
by Anonymous | reply 196 | March 23, 2019 2:42 PM |
R190 she had some pop hits in the UK with "Results".
by Anonymous | reply 197 | March 23, 2019 11:09 PM |
This was set to launch a Top-40s career, but nobody played it. Seems like it could have been a middling hit for somebody like Helen Reddy back in the day.
by Anonymous | reply 198 | March 23, 2019 11:31 PM |
R195, Lena Horne captured similar crowds all across the country during her one-woman show in the early 80's, and she was 64 years old at the time.
by Anonymous | reply 199 | March 25, 2019 7:04 AM |
After the Carnegie Hall cd came out, thr record company EMI announced a set of cds to follow......but nothing happened. Liz Smith, Liza's biggest booster, mentioned it in her column.
by Anonymous | reply 200 | March 25, 2019 7:36 AM |
I've always loved her, but she really must be seen live or at least on video/film that was recorded live. She's not a studio singer at all. You have to see her act the songs. It's really something else. She was always so great at interpreting songs.
by Anonymous | reply 201 | March 25, 2019 5:33 PM |
I wash moleshted.
by Anonymous | reply 202 | April 6, 2019 1:25 AM |
I Iive in the Shierra Towersch!
by Anonymous | reply 203 | April 6, 2019 1:36 AM |
Minnelli is great.
by Anonymous | reply 204 | April 6, 2019 12:48 PM |
R199 Lena Horne did not play to such crowds or such venues with her one woman show. There were only 3 women that could do that back then: Barbra, Liza and Diana. Not even Cher. And certainly not Lena Horne.
by Anonymous | reply 205 | April 6, 2019 1:01 PM |
What about Donna Summer, r205? Wasn't she able to pull huge crowds at that time?
by Anonymous | reply 206 | April 6, 2019 2:24 PM |
Summer was more of an album performer. There was nothing electric about her stage performances.
by Anonymous | reply 207 | April 6, 2019 7:06 PM |
I was aborted.
by Anonymous | reply 208 | April 8, 2019 6:07 PM |
I love Liza. She's so fucking strong.
by Anonymous | reply 209 | April 8, 2019 6:08 PM |
Put that cow in the ground.
by Anonymous | reply 210 | April 8, 2019 6:18 PM |
Linda Ronstadt filled stadiums back in the day.
by Anonymous | reply 211 | April 8, 2019 6:34 PM |
Oh, come on -- Linda wasn't THAT fat.
by Anonymous | reply 212 | April 8, 2019 7:31 PM |
I kept a shlice of my shweet birthday cake in the freeshzer. I'm defroshting it now for a shnack.
by Anonymous | reply 213 | April 14, 2019 7:58 PM |
Lena Horne never filled stadiums or anything like the Arie Crown theater in Chicago, which is where I saw Liza the first time. I saw Lena in a medium-sized theater, which is where everyone else saw her that year.
Donna Summer came way after Liza.
Too bad the guy above is grayed out as a right wing propagandist, because I agree with his analysis. Weird. Here is Liza and her storytelling best.
by Anonymous | reply 214 | April 22, 2019 6:54 AM |
R214 that Arie Crown concert was amazing
by Anonymous | reply 215 | April 22, 2019 11:40 AM |
73 and she's still chain-smoking! Some people are able to get away with it.
by Anonymous | reply 216 | April 22, 2019 1:59 PM |
Have you heard her sing in the past 10 years? She's still alive, but her voice is completely gone. I don't know if I'd call that "getting away with it." Although, you're right - it probably won't be what kills her.
by Anonymous | reply 217 | April 22, 2019 6:44 PM |
I took the train from Rock Island with a friend and stayed at the Palmer House that weekend, R215. IIRC, it was the tour that featured this image, right after her CABARET/WITH A Z successes.
by Anonymous | reply 218 | April 22, 2019 7:17 PM |
I must have been about 16 or so. Bigtime!
by Anonymous | reply 219 | April 23, 2019 10:40 PM |
I wonder how she feels watching FOSSE/VERDON on TV. She did fuck Fosse, yes?
by Anonymous | reply 220 | April 23, 2019 10:49 PM |
Share an ishe cream cone with a friend for May Day, get shprinklesh if you want. Live a little, it'sh all jusht a cabaret.
by Anonymous | reply 221 | April 29, 2019 11:26 PM |
I thought the old hag died years ago.
by Anonymous | reply 222 | April 30, 2019 7:12 PM |
When did Liza shart scheaking in thish way?? Did she always or did it develop over time?
by Anonymous | reply 223 | May 1, 2019 4:27 AM |
Mama shang the One Horn One Eyed Flying Purple People Eater.
by Anonymous | reply 224 | May 1, 2019 11:24 PM |
dl hates lisa
by Anonymous | reply 225 | September 6, 2019 2:58 PM |
Datalounge LOVES Liza. Only boring people dislike her.
by Anonymous | reply 226 | September 14, 2019 6:24 PM |