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"Fragrance-free spaces" -- is this a new thing?

I recently walked into a doctor's office and a sign on the door read something like "Because some people are allergic to strong scents, you are entering a fragrance-free space." This isn't the first time I've seen something like this.

Were people always this sensitive to cologne and perfume? I don't remember these types of signs say 20 years ago.

by Anonymousreply 10305/07/2019

Really? We were forbidden to use colognes or scented sprays in the brokerage I was hired at in late 2000.

by Anonymousreply 103/11/2019


by Anonymousreply 203/11/2019

Like everything that makes life worth living, there's always some jerk who abuses something to the point where it impacts others people in a negative way and they start protesting.

As for me, I'll go nowhere my "Lustray Blue Spice" isn't welcome!

by Anonymousreply 303/11/2019

Good. No one wants to smell you.

by Anonymousreply 403/11/2019

R4 Everyone wants to smell me. I have to keep spray bottle of water handy to ward off horny brutes.

by Anonymousreply 503/11/2019

DL demands a "Jean Nate" safe space!

by Anonymousreply 603/11/2019

They should make theaters a "no scent" zone. How many times have you had to sit next to a frau who drenches herself with perfume or cologne, because she thinks the scent makes her glamorous?

by Anonymousreply 703/11/2019

I got a medical accommodation to work from home due to intolerable scent allergy at office . Trust me its a real thing. I felt like the 'canary in the coal mine" particularly in regards to the latest ubiquitous bugaboo, phthalates( found in MANY personal use products)!

by Anonymousreply 803/11/2019

R7 But you're at The Movies! How can you turn your nose up at glamour at The Movies?

by Anonymousreply 903/11/2019

My mother has serious asthma issues. Perfume sets her off like you wouldn’t believe. She actually pulled a rib from hacking so hard and for hours after coming in contact with the person. She had to get a doctor’s note so she could moved to where she wouldn’t be around people wearing perfume. It was THAT bad. I can’t get over people who smell like they bathe in that crap. It seems to be a class issue. The lower the class, the more they feel the need to spray.

by Anonymousreply 1003/11/2019

Some people are too damn sensitive to live.

by Anonymousreply 1103/11/2019

I knew a woman who would go to work drenched in perfume. She always chose very heavy, musky perfumes with harsh scents. Whenever I was around her I would sneeze. All her clothes and her apartment were permeated with it. She rode the subway and in elevators it overwhelmed the small space.

She said she didn’t care if other people liked it or not, she liked it.

by Anonymousreply 1203/11/2019

I love it but my mom always has headaches from it. That's me with cigarettes, but I think it's more because of anxiety from them.

by Anonymousreply 1303/11/2019

[R12] - Reminds me of people with large, but portable radios, on the NY subway, back in the 70’s and 80’s, blasting away at high volumes, oblivious to bothering anyone around them.

by Anonymousreply 1403/11/2019

Most complainers are dirty hippy dippy au naturel stink bags who aren't allergic at all but object to your littering the air and assaulting their delicate senses with your chemically contrived fragrance. They think their garlicky BO, unwashed hair and halitosis is nature's work and would not be considered offensive in an accepting, natural green environment. Interestingly, for reasons not yet well understood by the modern medical establishment, this devastating scent sensitivity appears to have a particularly powerful affect on vegetarians and vegans, lesbians, Bay Area residents, Lilith Fair attendees, and feminist theory majors.

by Anonymousreply 1503/11/2019

How annoying.

by Anonymousreply 1603/11/2019

"Because some people are allergic to strong scents...."

Take a Zyrtec or whatever doctor prescribed medicine you have and STFU!

by Anonymousreply 1703/11/2019

This is news to me. What if you go to see a GP, see such a sign, but it's too late? You're already wearing scent. You can't just not go to the Doctor; you're there for a reason. People with such an extreme allergy need to take an anti-histamine or wait outside. Oh, wait, they can't... pollution!

by Anonymousreply 1803/11/2019

The antihistamines r18 and r17 so blithely recommend, as if they had even a hint of a clue, DO NOTHING against the migraines your stenches create for me. IOW, yes, go the fuck home. Come again another day.

by Anonymousreply 1903/11/2019

R9 That picture is terrifying!

by Anonymousreply 2003/11/2019

Well, now we know which DLers never step out the front door without first marinating,themselves in Drakkar Noir.

by Anonymousreply 2103/11/2019

R21 It's amazing I can even walk out the door without being mobbed by men begging to be marinated in my essence.

by Anonymousreply 2203/11/2019

Most people who wear perfume or cologne use too much, IMO. No need to bathe in it. Clean skin, clothes and hair usually smell better.

by Anonymousreply 2303/11/2019

I really feel Febreeze could kill me. If I ever get a terminal diagnosis at doctor' office I'll just stop at store on the way home, get some Febreeze and go home and end it all. That's how badly it effects me.

by Anonymousreply 2403/11/2019

Same here, r24. And it is an epidemic in Uber cars. Every time I get one, I get a headache. Then I call and complain, and give the driver one star. Uber usually refunds me $7.00.

by Anonymousreply 2503/11/2019

I love scents. But there are some pretty bad ones out there and they do make a big stink when those wearing them are around in public. One women I knew would use bath oils as a perfume, and she just reeked so bad, no one wanted to be around her.

Understated scents is the way to go. You don't want your scent to precede you. Acqua Di Parma's Colonia Club was one of the best selections I made. I love it. It smells clean and very understated. I wear it for me, not those around me.

by Anonymousreply 2603/11/2019

Febreeze is ground zero for this pandemic!

by Anonymousreply 2703/11/2019

I'm amazed that the fragrance industry is still alive. I think the only place you can safely wear cologne is at home and that is if you live alone with no pets.

by Anonymousreply 2803/11/2019

I miss the days of women wearing heels, having big hair, being drenched in Estée Lauder Beautiful, and also smoking. The 80s are such a sensory fetish for me.

by Anonymousreply 2903/11/2019

Is this a big city Northeastern/California thing? I've never seen this in the South.

by Anonymousreply 3003/11/2019

What kind of idiot would wear a scent when they go to a doctor or dentist or any situation that involves close contact?

by Anonymousreply 3103/11/2019

The signs usually mean that one of the employees has obtained a doctor's note saying that they can't be exposed to fragrances. The workplace then has to put the sign up as a reasonable accommodation to the employee.

by Anonymousreply 3203/11/2019

Some of the bars in New Orleans have no cologne signs up. So it is is not just a coastal thing.

by Anonymousreply 3303/11/2019

R29 Your post reminded me of an Elementary teacher I had at a strict Christian school. She wore Opium and always had a Hall's drop in her mouth, but when she would lean over my desk, I could smell the underlying cigarette smell and I loved it. (It reminded me of my grandmother.)

by Anonymousreply 3403/11/2019

perfumes of yesteryear were not made up of these toxic base compounds of today.

by Anonymousreply 3503/11/2019

Fendi was the first one I noticed that made me sick.

by Anonymousreply 3603/11/2019

Fragrance is bad for your skin but manufacturers put it in everything because it moves product. Think about all of the different fragrances you subject your body to...soap, shampoo, conditioner, lotions, moisturizers, hair products, lip balm, fabric softener, etc. Everyone of them is an irritant and the average person is subjecting their skin to them everyday.

by Anonymousreply 3703/11/2019

There's women at the gym who are careful and dab lightly. But then there's the type that drenches themselves with some stanky granny scent, the type of scent that smells like lilac dusting powder on the back of a 90 year old's toilet. So many women's fragrances are horrible.

by Anonymousreply 3803/11/2019

I wish this was a thing when I worked for Veterans Affairs. A part-time frau had her phone removed from her desk because otherwise she was on it more times than not. Did she get the hint? Of course not. She borrowed the phone of the woman seated in the cubicle in front of her. Or mine. And every time she did use my phone (multiple times a day) she left the strongest perfume stank on it that never did go away.

Thank God I got promoted and moved to the other side of the building so I didn't have to listen to her inane phone calls or smell her cheap perfume.

by Anonymousreply 3903/11/2019

Fragrance-free skincare and shampoo is much better for you but it's expensive. You have to shop around for deodorants as some aren't very effective. It's certainly worth it if you can afford it, though you can also make your own if you have the patience.

by Anonymousreply 4003/11/2019

Noticed it first in mid-1980s San Francisco at 12 step meetings. Heavily promoted by humorless lesbetarians claiming to have “environmental illnesses.” Hard to disagree with anything [15] wrote…lol. My eyes cannot roll any further back in my head when I encounter this tribe. Ugh.

by Anonymousreply 4103/11/2019

I love scents and fragrances in and on everything! Draperies, carpets, furniture, linens, laundry, cleaning products, cars, pets, people, EVERYTHING! I love it. It's like aromatherapy. With that said, if you're hot, hairy and buff with an uncut cock feel free to skip the deodorant and the shower before we hook up. Like I said, I love scents.

by Anonymousreply 4203/11/2019

Use soap, water, and underarm deodorant. People who use cologne or perfume are common trash.

by Anonymousreply 4303/11/2019

Please be “Scent-sitive”.

by Anonymousreply 4403/11/2019

Since when is it only women who wear too much scent? Yeah sure. Walk into any gay bar in any city and you'll have a different response.

by Anonymousreply 4503/11/2019

I am now in a situation where I can control my environment and exposure. Women tend to be the worst offenders(mostly the deodorants), and blacks too, as they require SO much product for skin and hair. Guys aren't too bad in general unless they are young punks who use AXE instead of bathe! I am downwind from a laundromat and drier sheets and Downy Soft are troublesome !

by Anonymousreply 4603/11/2019

Years ago as a prosecutor, I was reviewing a case with an extremely intelligent and well-liked individual, who was head of the hard core gang unit. I still cringe remembering when he looked up at me and said , “Is that Poison you’re wearing?” Never again.

by Anonymousreply 4703/11/2019

Maybe they're depressed?

by Anonymousreply 4803/11/2019

Cat ladies tend to pour on the cheap perfume in the misguided hope that it'll cover up the stink of their 50 indoor cats.

by Anonymousreply 4903/11/2019

What about cat gays? You know who you are.

by Anonymousreply 5003/11/2019

R48 I'm going to comment before I read your linked article so I don't bias my thoughts but I wholeheartedly believe there's a lot of truth that overly perfumed people may be depressed. When I was hospitalized for severe anxiety and crippling depression, we had classes twice per week focused on aromatherapy and its recuperative properties. Certain scents for different people will trigger a mild euphoria. Repeated exposure to aromatherapy' s triggered feelings of well being may serve to chip away at the enveloping depressive cloud and be useful as part of a holistic approach to depression management. Therefore, objecting to personal fragrances may be seen as an attack on those affected by mental illness. So not only do you stink like BO but you hate disabled people. Complain about my Guerlain Vetiver and I go straight to HR.

by Anonymousreply 5103/11/2019

For all of you PC, SJW, MeToo-ites out there. You'll love this one

by Anonymousreply 5203/11/2019

But if I don't heavily douse myself with Forever Krystle, who will know that it's my Signature Scent?

by Anonymousreply 5303/11/2019

[quote]What kind of idiot would wear a scent when they go to a doctor or dentist or any situation that involves close contact?

All kinds of idiot. Knuckle-draggers are always drenched in the stuff.

by Anonymousreply 5403/11/2019

I live in NY..I only wish the stinking Korean Pakistan and Chinese wore cologne.

by Anonymousreply 5503/11/2019

Multiple Chemical Sensitivity is the new trans.

It's soon to be all the rage!

by Anonymousreply 5603/11/2019

Oh, honey, I've had MCS since 1992.

by Anonymousreply 5703/11/2019

Some people just overdo the amount of fragrance placed on their bodies/clothing. Olfactory overload is not a pleasant experience.

I find patchouli especially offensive, even in small amounts. It just stinks. Also irritates my nose and throat.

by Anonymousreply 5803/11/2019

[quote]I find patchouli especially offensive, even in small amounts. It just stinks.

Hippie piss.

by Anonymousreply 5903/11/2019

Not one but two fraus at my office had to be counseled to be cut back on the scent because it was overpowering. One of them was a new hire in HR! The other one wore some sort of cheap-ass rose scent that would permeate the hallways. You could still smell it half an hour after she'd be through the area. People would always grimace when they smelled it. She finally stopped when they told her she could choose the perfume or her job.

I no longer wear fragrances if I can help it. I used to wear cologne before it became so passe, but, early on, I was taught to spray the air and walk through the mist so as not to be heavily doused. An older gay gentleman taught me that, and it was great advice. Now I use fragrance-free detergent and scent-free deodorant. One or two scents are ok from time-to-time, but, as someone already pointed out, EVERYTHING these days has the potential to smell of some sort of fragrance, and the combination of scents can give me a headache (or make me gag) after awhile. Once you get used to a fragrance-free environment, you really start to notice it more and more.

by Anonymousreply 6003/11/2019

I want r60 to be my new best friend.

by Anonymousreply 6103/11/2019

Cheap perfume is pretty bad. Especially that baby prostitute crap that teenage girls buy from victoria’s secret which smells like rotten fruit.

by Anonymousreply 6203/11/2019

Spray , Delay and Walk away (from me)

by Anonymousreply 6303/11/2019

R15 I'm not a "hippy dippy". I'm a military veteran with brain trauma, which means I have seizures and migraines. Like a lot of people who have brain bruises and trauma - extreme scents can trigger seizures. Most people do not spray perfume up their ass with a fire house until it squirts out their ears. Really. Some people, however, have to turn themselves in the human lawnsprinklers. Then it can trigger a hell of a response in me and people like me.

And, before you ask - yes, I do take meds. Shit loads of meds to control my seizures. I have lots of pills each days and I get more than 30 injections every couple of weeks. So, I'm not exactly slacking in my own efforts. I don't go out much, I don't go to bars or to most shopping centers because it's higher risk than I can take to go through a department store.

This is one of the reasons companies have asked people to lay off on the excessive perfumes and colognes. So people like me don't have seizures, and I appreciate how many people really have helped. It's allowing me to work full time and not be a burden on your taxes.

by Anonymousreply 6403/11/2019

" this devastating scent sensitivity appears to have a particularly powerful affect on vegetarians and vegans, lesbians, Bay Area residents, Lilith Fair attendees, and feminist theory majors."

The tiny-dicked Republican incel has spoken!

by Anonymousreply 6503/11/2019

R65 I am not tiny dicked, not Republican and will google INCEL to see what it means before I can say whether or not I am one. You kids now a days with your crazy talk. Anyway, I may or may not follow up with the results of my research depending on my desire or lack thereof to entertain you further.

Cheers bitch and go fuck yourself!

by Anonymousreply 6603/11/2019

R66 here. Looked up this Reddit incel shit. Nope, I can proudly say I am not an incel. Being in shape, good looking with a fat uncut cock gets me plenty of trade but nice try, cunt. Move on.

by Anonymousreply 6703/11/2019

r55 I've never met a Korean in the US who smells in the way Chinese or Indians do.

by Anonymousreply 6803/12/2019

Here in Miami, Cubans put scent on their children!

It is always violet scent. It comes in two formulas: one for fair children and one for dark children.

And no, I am not making this up.

by Anonymousreply 6903/12/2019

Then you've never been exposed to Eau de Kimchi " cologne."

by Anonymousreply 7003/12/2019

It is mainly Latinos and old people who wear cologne these days. Not a value judgment. It's just the way it is.

by Anonymousreply 7103/12/2019

And blacks, r71. Men and women both.

by Anonymousreply 7203/12/2019

People with "aerosolized allergies" should lock themselves in their own homes & never go outside.

Suicide is the other alternative.

Theyre fucking up the gene pool.

by Anonymousreply 7303/12/2019

I had a temp job in the summer where I had a 15 minute walk to the office after leaving the train. I used deodorant but I am a naturally sweaty person and the staff at the office said I smelled of perspiration by the time I got there. So I invested in some cologne and trialled that. After a few days they said please go back to perspiring.

by Anonymousreply 7403/12/2019

Nothing worse than AXE body spray. I cannot believe adult men wear that crap

by Anonymousreply 7503/14/2019


by Anonymousreply 7605/06/2019

I never had a problem with cologne in my life. Until the day I did. One particular perfume a woman wore at work started giving me migraines.

by Anonymousreply 7705/06/2019

My earliest memory is ’womyn only, safe spaces,” that were fragrance free for “those with environmental illnesses.” Then certain 12 step meetings started being designated as such…that was the early 1980s.

by Anonymousreply 7805/06/2019

I had a bitchy, climber coworker who claimed she could only tolerate Creed colognes because everything else gave her a migraine (she grew up on a farm with no running water, so apparently cowshit and animal hair were all good). We went out for dinner (work event) and she told me beforehand not to wear any cologne. I had a bottle of crappy perfume that I more or less poured over myself before I went out with her. She sat next to me and said “thanks for not wearing perfume, I can really tell.” I smiled and nodded then told everyone how full of shit she was. Have never met a person in my life who has a genuine scent allergy. I’ve tried this experiment a number of times on different people with the same result. They all thank me for not wearing perfume.

by Anonymousreply 7905/06/2019

I wonder whether you'd fool me, r79, you cunt.

by Anonymousreply 8005/06/2019

A nasty, chainsmoking coworker of mine (who smells like a cross between dirty underwear and cat piss) recently complained to HR about people in the office using perfumes/body sprays, prompting a morning announcement about being sensitive to other people's health issues.

by Anonymousreply 8105/06/2019

There's a lot of toxic shit in products & it causes reactions in people that can be extremely severe, including anaphylaxis from Axe body spray.

The ingredient called "fragrance" in a product can be dozens of chemicals, and the manufacturer does not have to disclose any of them. Unilever refused to disclose what was in Axe despite it being responsible for causing the hospitalization of a few people due to anaphylaxis. They may eventually be forced to disclose in court.

The body reacts to them like second hand smoke, not really like pollen. It's a severe irritant. You aren't making antibodies like you would make to pollen or an allergen (so antihistamines aren't going to do anything). For all of you saying scent-sensitive people are being babies, do you enjoy secondhand smoke then? It's just as bad for them.

by Anonymousreply 8205/06/2019

My mother mentioned to me that one of my neighbors' got on and made some silly comment how she was very allergic to my mothers perfume. My mother is a very elegant lady who would have probably been wearing something like Rive Gauche and conservatively. I really wanted to know which neighbor because I would have loved to give her shit.

by Anonymousreply 8305/06/2019

Just park your ass on her porch, r83. You ARE a stinking piece of shit.

by Anonymousreply 8405/06/2019

Yet people are allowed to going around smelling of BO, bad breath and cigarettes.

by Anonymousreply 8505/06/2019

What porch ? It was an elevator in a building here in NY. R84 Who is stinking piece of shit ? What are you talking about ? So over the top your are.

by Anonymousreply 8605/06/2019

I can't imagine anyone objecting to my Charlie.

by Anonymousreply 8705/06/2019

I thought scent sensitivity was bullshit, especially when a patient where I used to work nearly fainted, supposedly because of either my scent-free deodorant or the natural lavender sachets we had for sale. In some cases, I think scent sensitivity is psychosomatic, akin to people who claim they're sensitive to electromagnetism.

That said, I once had a coworker who absolutely reeked. She had to have doused her clothes and her body in scented detergent, fabric softener, shampoo, hairspray, body lotion, and on and on. I could smell her when I got off the elevator, 40 feet from my company's front door. And being in close proximity to her made me feel like my sinuses were on fire.

by Anonymousreply 8805/06/2019

It's real. It's just poorly understood. Most allergists are frustratingly lacking in the ability to think outside the box or look up the most recent research. Neurologists are a bit better in this regard, though they may dismiss patients just as easily depending on who you find.

Neuroimmunology is the only field that has properly studied this, along with MCS. The issue is largely located in the acetylcholine pathways. Specifically, the muscarinic receptors (M3 - the same one involved in Irritable Bowel Syndrome). The receptors overreact in the nose and lungs, just like they do when people who have IBS eat "triggering" foods or spices. People used to write off IBS as a psychological disease too, since it is very hard to nail down like MCS tends to be. But they're all the same neurological overreaction cascades.

IBS drugs can treat chemical sensitivity if you can find the rare (and I do mean rare) doctor who understands this (or bothers to read the latest research). Sometimes anti-psychotics can cure MCS, but they come with heavy side effects. They tend to block all the muscarinic, cholinergic, and histamine receptors. They don't work bc the patient is psychotic. They work because the two disorders share receptor malfunctions to some degree.

by Anonymousreply 8905/06/2019

Oh and M3 and other muscarinic receptors are targets for treating asthma patients & that's been an accepted thing for a long time. It's odd to me how it's ok to treat the same receptor in the lungs & intestines, but if it's in the nose, then you're crazy (and there are ton's of m3 receptors in the nose).

by Anonymousreply 9005/06/2019

I work in a fragrant free zone.

Sorry but some frau wear the most disgusting perfumes. So strong I can't breathe. I don't have a problem with most colognes. Maybe it's because it's not as strong or it's the masculinity.

by Anonymousreply 9105/06/2019

Honestly, I feel like some people use scents as an alternative to hygiene. I'm not as sensitive to fragrance as I am to tobacco on people's clothes (which makes me sick) but I'd still rather no pollutants in the air. Just shower and wash your hair daily, please.

by Anonymousreply 9205/06/2019

R89 and R90 Thank you for the interesting research. I'm always amazed when a DLer takes the time to inform us.

by Anonymousreply 9305/06/2019

I got my ass kicked (figuratively), by a bouncer for wearing cologne when I entered the Mineshaft back in the 70s. Top that (literally)

by Anonymousreply 9405/06/2019

Church Lady Perfume

by Anonymousreply 9505/06/2019

I got bounced, actually, r94, from the Mine Shaft, for wearing Eau Sauvage.

by Anonymousreply 9605/07/2019

"You Will Never Smell My World the Way I Do"

by Anonymousreply 9705/07/2019

R96 - “I got bounced, actually, [R94], from the Mine Shaft, for wearing Eau Sauvage.”

R94 here.... Yeah, I got passed the 1st bouncer who was posted at the street door, but when I made it to the top of the stairs, a 2nd bouncer leaned into me and read me the riot act for smelling what he called, “like a pussy“. I was young, 22 maybe, and with a group of friends who made the trek from Long Island.

by Anonymousreply 9805/07/2019


I should’ve said to the 2nd bouncer, “how would you know what a pussy smells like”, but I didn’t want to stir up any more shit, considering I was drenched in Paco Rabanne.

by Anonymousreply 9905/07/2019

That is why you weren't allowed in, r99. Paco Rabanne REEKED.

by Anonymousreply 10005/07/2019


I know. It was my favorite back then.

So my friends and I went to the Village, and partied.

by Anonymousreply 10105/07/2019

I can guarantee you we never went home together, r101 (I lived @ 10/B'way). I could be counted on to participate in a lot, sexually speaking, but Paco Rabanne, no. I could never dip that low.

by Anonymousreply 10205/07/2019

R102 , R102 .... Let me see R102.... Yes! Of course! I remember you R102! You’re the flamer who presented your hole to me in broad daylight near10 Broadway. Bold move, I must admit. And I might have taken advantage, except for the disturbing sight of your bejeweled anal beads protruding out your boy pussy.

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