Italian Americans

The same racist / prejudiced pieces of shit who are racist / prejudiced against others might also be the same toward Italian Americans. What's the surprise?

Op, what country are you from? Have you never read about Italian immigration to America and how it played out?

DL is filled with self loathing racist bitter gay white men. Mostly Wasps who surely work on Wall Street and are likely closeted.

R2 That was in the past, no one outside of DL treats Italian Americans as different anymore, just as no one treats Irish, German, or Scandinavian Americans different in the modern age.

[italic]"I didn’t know they were looked down/discriminated against"[/italic]

They aren't.

The same men who find vile ugly GOP trolls like Paul Ryan and Tom Cotton "hot" are the same idiots posting negative shit about attractive sexy actors who happen to be Muslim They are constantly calling Italian-Americans and other nationalities "racist". They have no self-awareness whatsoever.

They’re largely deplorable vermin.

What about us?

I mean, yes of course they were discriminated in the past.

Do people consider them white-white ??? Well, that depends on who you talk to.

Wait! Is it that time of the year when we make a poll asking if Italians are real whites or not ??

[quote]What about us?

[quote]—The Irish

What about them indeed — numerous IAs have been president (including Barack Obama by the way).

Italians? Not so much.

Only if they called gravy red sauce.Animals.

I’m from ny actually

How come so many threads about different races or ethnic groups? I'll just keep blocking them.

I thought most were democrats @R7

Agree w r7. The worst.

OP: Many of the people posting here are over 65 and their view of the world was shaped in the 1950s when yes, an Italian-American businessman might not have been invited to the local WASP country club.

But in 2019 that's not really an issue any more.

R5 a lot of them have looked down on me.

It's just that Italians are not white...according to my father, and we're Greek!

WHO.GIVES.A.SHIT.!!!!!

Makes sense. I didn’t know dL’ers were so old @R16

What r2 said. OP seems like he is clueless about about how bigoted society used to be against Italians and Irish immigrants.

Same song different tune, now people make the same comments about brown immigrants. Nothing is new.

It’s not just that Italian-American businessmen weren’t invited to become members of clubs, they were redlined and excluded from certain neighborhoods and towns. Even those they could afford to live in.

R17 I see what you did.

They started the Mafia. Movies/Series like Casino and The Sopranos don't exactly paint them in the best light.

OP, do a fuckin search before posting, we've already discussed this recently in long threads, whore.

I love me a mook.

Me too.

OP is a big ol' FINOOK! Capisce?

[quote] Mostly Wasps who surely work on Wall Street

On Wall Street, as janitors.

Italian and Irish Americans weren't considered white and couldn't put white down in the census

I love Italian Americans but I remember when people called them wops. Not nice

As someone of Italian descent on both sides, but from the west coast, I find the threads and stereotypes both baffling and fascinating at the same time -- certainly seems to be a regional thing.

Only the ones who drain their pasta.

[quote]Are people really prejudiced against them in the real world?

No.

While growing up in New York, they were known as wops, grease balls, and guineas. In fact, the Verrazano Bridge was known as the "guinea gangplank." But nowadays, I think those words are rarely used.

I remember when people called an Italian a "guinea." Maybe it was an East Coast insult. I don't hear it nowadays.

Italians are not ashamed to tell anyone they're Italian.

Why is the word "Guinea" so offensive to Italian-Americans?

Ginney/Guinea Italians pronounced "gi-nee." Came from "Guinea Negro" and originally referred to any Black or any person of mixed ancestry. This dates back to the 1740's. By the 1890s it was being applied to Southern Italians and Sicilians, because they tend to have a slightly darker skin than Northern Italians, Anglo-Saxons, Germans etc.

Guinea

The most vile racial slur that can be used against an Italian-American. Refers to the Guinea Coast of Africa; using this slur is a very offensive way of implying that Italian-Americans are non-whites (something we tend to get very defensive about!!).

Unlike the "N-word", which African-Americans sometimes use to address each other, no Italian-American would ever address another Italian-American using this word. Nor would they use the word "wop" (also offensive, but not in a racial way). HOWEVER, it IS common for Italian-Americans to refer to each other as "dago"; this is used the same way that blacks use the N-word with each other.

I don't think it's an issue today, but father had dago and wop in his vocab until he died a few years ago.

And my grandparents' generation... oh, dear.

R32, do you have a veiny, rock-hard, uncut 10-inch salami?

I own this thread.

No, R41, I have a veiny, rock-hard, uncut 11-inch salami.

R32

R41, I'll just say I've never had any complaints.

Well haul your ass out of the basement and give folks a chance to judge for themselves!

Bump

To look at me and to hear my last name which is a morph of the original well there's no doubt I'm Italian-American. However this has caused some debates between spouse and I. He says Italians and Greeks are Mediterranean but my ancestry includes half Italian/Sardinian and the other half has Irish, Native American and a little but of Ashkenazi Jewish.

So I keep telling him I have both European and Mediterranean with some Native American and Jewish thrown in.

A friend grew in the western suburbs of Chicago in the '50s and '60s where the Italian mob had moved from from the south side of the city during the "white flight." The "Outfit," as it's known regionally, had deep roots on some areas back then. My friend's mother forbade her from dating Italian guys (they were Irish) because their families might be associated with the Outfit. I suppose there isn't much of this form of discrimination any more because the numbers in organized crime have dwindled, but they're still around. In the '90s, there was a woman in another department at work whose father had been a driver for the mob. I guess this came out when someone brought a newspaper into work with an article about his arrest. Even as late as the early 2000s, you could go to Sunday buffet at the Drury Lane dinner theater in Oakbrook Terrace and some of the families literally looked like extras or cast members of "Married to the Mob."

Some of them are tolerable. Most are like the RHONJ.

They're better than actual Italians.

The DL is obsessed with Italian-Americans.