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Did You Know? - Roughly 200 people jumped from WTC on 9/11

Here's an interesting Reddit thread I found answering some of the questions I had, e.g.:

- How long it took the Falling Man to get to the bottom?

- What did the impacts look/sound like?

- How were the deaths classified?

I can't imagine the desperation of being driven to jump from such a height. I ate at Windows of the World once in the 90s and the most vivid think I recall is taking the elevator. That thing moved so damned fast that my stomach dropped on the way up and the way down. I totally believed the cable had snapped because it was moving so fast. Unnerving to say the least. I can't imagine a free fall. Poor people.

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by Anonymousreply 9March 3, 2019 3:26 PM

Yes. The "jumpers" are covered in a number of documentaries - not exclusively, though. I think a French filmmaker recorded at the WTC as the chaos unfolded, and you can hear the sound of bodies falling on parts of the building and the ground. There are also pictures of the remains of people who jumped. Some of the "jumpers" were actually trying to scale the building. Desperate times and desperate measures.

All very sad.

by Anonymousreply 1March 3, 2019 2:15 PM

Instead of jumping, I would've taken my chances trying to run through the fire and smoke.

by Anonymousreply 2March 3, 2019 2:18 PM

I saw a man jump to his death from a burning hotel room in Manhattan. Trust me, that guy held on as long as he could. He was screaming for help and the Fire Department was on the scene, even in the room above preparing to lower a man down to pull the guy out of that burning room. Everyone who was passing by was surely thinking, "Just hold on. They've almost got you."

But just before they could get him, the flames accelerated exponentially. I don't know what caused it. It doesn't matter. The heat increased, the guy screamed in agony and he went right out of the window. It really happened by reflex. He simply could not stay. The heat was so great.

A few people on top of the WTC may have made the bizarre choice to cut to the chase and simply jump. But based on what I saw in that hotel fire, it was the heat. It was just too much and reflex took over.

200 voluntary suicides? No. Just no.

by Anonymousreply 3March 3, 2019 2:25 PM

The jumpers were victims of terrorism. They were murdered.

by Anonymousreply 4March 3, 2019 2:41 PM

Speaking of elevators, here's another vivid anecdote for you, OP:

[bolc]An elevator engineer in the south tower reports:[/bold]

"As we got into the sky lobby area, there were shuttle cars that had come up from the first floor from the lobby. I started to shut those down at that 44th floor. People in the local elevators coming down from the floors above in the second zone, now there were more people in fact coming down out of those elevators than there were going up because usually it’s a very busy time of the morning when people are coming up into the building. A lot of people were coming down out of those local cars, some of them were trying to get into the shuttle cars. I shut them down.

The shuttle cars were those cars that would run from a lobby up to a zone. They had three zones in the building. They had the first zone which ran from one to 42, then the second zone started from 44 up to 76, and the third zone started from 78 up to 110."

As I turned around to go back toward the core of the building in the lobby, the second plane hit, and that shook the building.

We heard the explosion and within a matter of seconds after that impact, I heard – and as well as everybody else heard – this noise, this increasing sound of wind. And it was getting louder and louder. It was like a bomb, not quite the sound of a bomb coming down from a bomber. It was a sound of wind increasing, a whistling sound, increasing in sound.

I’m looking from the lobby up to a mezzanine area or the second floor where they lined up all the people to go up to the rooftop, and I’m looking up expecting something, building parts to be coming down, because I wasn’t quite sure what that noise was.

But I found out later, when the plane came through the building, it cut the hoist ropes, the governor ropes, of (the) 6 and 7 cars, which was the observation cars.

What we heard was 6 and 7 car free-falling from the 107th floor and they impacted the basement at B-2 Level. And that’s the explosion that filled the lobby within a matter of two or three seconds, engulfed the lobby in dust, smoke.

And apparently from what I talked to with other mechanics, they saw the doors, the hatch doors blow off in the lobby level of 6 and 7 car.

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by Anonymousreply 5March 3, 2019 2:59 PM

There were no 'terrorists'. You can't take a flight training class then aim a passenger plane into a narrow target in Manhattan. It's impossible. The planes were somehow remote control-crashed (except at the Pentagon where it was a bomb- no plane).

Dick Cheney masterminded it to get a lucrative contract for Haliburton in Iraq.

by Anonymousreply 6March 3, 2019 3:02 PM

r6, it's domestic vs. foreign terrorists. The former disguised as the latter.

by Anonymousreply 7March 3, 2019 3:10 PM

NOPE!

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by Anonymousreply 8March 3, 2019 3:22 PM

Everyone who died in the WTC, the Pentagon and in Shanksville were classified as homicides -- except for the terrorists.

by Anonymousreply 9March 3, 2019 3:26 PM
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