It's not safe in Angel Square at night

This new thread continues the hard work, gossip and shit stirring of this earlier thread.....

Did Frankie V. Ever partake in the Ford brothers?

A rebooted OLTL could work, if it were more edgy, returned to social issues, with good acting and writing. Camp is fun, but it should be dished out selectively. Build it around Tina's kids, Sarah and CJ, which gives opportunities for the older generation to get involved.

[quote] Did Frankie V. Ever partake in the Ford brothers?

Did Erica Kane scream at a bear in the woods?

They should make the new OLTL like Passions, an all out supernatural camp fest with witches, zombies, oragatangs, mermaids, bull dyke hatchet murderers etc

It'll at least be entertaining

Someone summon the spirit of James E. Reilly aka JERk

Get real, peeps. This is NEVER going to happen. And also, it will end up being All MY CHILDREN anyway. With a sprinkling of OLTL characters.

No thanks.

Let sleeping dogs lie.

One Life to Live

Starting

Andy T

as

The Young Stud

The Ford Brothers, are they anything like the Jonas Brothers?

AMC really SUCKED at the end, they'd be better off reviving OLTL.

OLTL had better ratings too.

Did someone say "sucked off" and "OLTL?"

A rebooted OLTL could be great as long as Todd and Blair stayed away and didn't take over the show again.

Jadore the the new thread post...title, picture and introduction. Well done OP. I wish I was around Rodi's right now myself.

For your viewing pleasure...

Will Officer Oliver Fish be giving blowjobs to the Ford brothers behind Rodi's? Will Rex become Brody's buttboy?

I feel like that sauna scene was a direct birthday present to Frank from Ron.

R11 Blair is frontburner on DAYS, and will soon be joined by Robin Strasser on there. They would have to recast

I liked Todd with Rebecca and Tea better anyway.

Blair is on DOOL and Todd is on GH so hopefully if this ever happens (not likely but whatever) they will be gone and other characters can actually get storylines.

R13 Pretty guys, but this porno is lame.

So they're all gay right?

They did those sauna scenes all the time toward the end of OLTL. Cutter and NuJoey were in a few as well.

[quote] Jadore the the new thread post...title, picture and introduction.

I really wanted the shirtless photo from Roxy's dream episode, but it wasn't anywhere I could link from, sadly.

Those three were horrible actors

R21,I LOVED Cutter.

Cutter was a great character...a sexy grifter who, despite his grittiness, might fall for the right someone. I hoped it might have been Joey Buchanan. They would have made a great top-bottom (dare I say Dom-sub) combination.

HACKlivati could not create a good original character if his life depended on it.

I stopped believing in OLTL when Ron wrote it. It didn't feel like a story, it felt like a soap parody.

Viki's DID could return. Villains could return like Carlo Hesser and Alison Perkins. The young characters from the finals years of the show mostly sucked so they could be discarded with or bring a couple of them in as recasts.

Exactly, r27. Whatever happened to Ron after he originally started fucked with him, because everything became a camp mess.

Frank's horrible taste and Frons' interference didn't do Ron any favors, but I agree, his hype died out very quick. On DOOL, he ranges from nonsensical camp to outright tedium.

Ron's tenure was far from perfect. Nonetheless, it was infinitely better than what Dena was giving us.

Was true with OLTL back in 2007. Is also true with Days in 2019.

Dena was the worst! I’d take campy re Ron any day over that hack!

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I'd take Brody and Cutter DP style

That's a perfect description, R27.

The only hackery worse than Dena's was Jean Passanante's (ATWT). Of course, Frons's grimy thumbprints were all over that mess, too.

Don't forget Frank, r35. I never once believed he was just a bystander through 4 writing regimes, and the shit at GH proves he has no taste, vision, or direction.

I wish I could, R36; trust me.

I just can’t with the old witch Strassman. Her mother croaked at 93 and Strassman is lamenting that they never got along. It’s too late now, hun. Why didn’t the witch attempt to make things right when her mother was still alive? What has Strassman been doing these last several years while unemployed and knowing that her mother was in her final years? Its wayyyyyyy too late to start bitching now. That woman irritates me.

Brody and Cutter were cute but they never filled out their boxers in the same way Rex or Christian did.

Christian was in a class by himself. Rex -- not so much. Too fey!

Rex looked like the living embodiment of Bam Bam from the Flintstones.

R41 And, that is a bad thing? Remember when Pebbles and Bam-Bam became teenagers, he was quite cute.

Seriously, pebbles and bam bam? Can we get back to OLTL?

Did gays AND fraus both enjoy the Ford Brothers? Were they a big hit with all viewers?

I always thought daddy Ford was the hottest and then the one who did porn!

According to We Love Them There Soaps, March 6 was the day Karen Wolek lost her shit.

ALMOST as momentous as that sleepy, dusty Delta day when Billie Joe McAlister jumped off the Talahachee Bridge.

[quote] I always thought daddy Ford was the hottest and then the one who did porn!

Mmmm. And stuffed himself into tight Speedos back in the day!

You know damn well a resounding NO both queries r44. They aren't even worth mentioning.

But r46, that was the THIRD of June...

Which one of the Ford brothers is gay in real life ?

Daddy Ford gay and so was James. He’s married in real life.

I don’t think I pretty boy Robert Ford or Nate were gay

The whitewashing of that dumbass himbo was ridiculous after he raped someone who was mentally ill.

How anyone can argue that Carlivati isn't a certified hack is beyond me.

RC sucked. He could tell a Soap parody but not a layered complex drama!

He moments of greatness but that’s it. He seemed to like the characters which is more than most headwriters.

What were some of his biggest offenses?

Connecting both David and Rex to the Buchanans. Destroying the Marty character. Ruining the returns of Tina and Kelly. Not bringing back Max for the finale. Making Gigi a central character!

The Jessica DID nonsense I’d add to that list as well as The botched Tale of Two Todd’s!!!

Forget even the mess of Jessica's DID - that story mentioned where she thinks she's still a teen and in love with Cristian then gets infatuated with Ford was next level TRASH.

What they did to the Jessica character after BreeCheese took over was an absolute crime.

So many gays.

Jess with Antonio made no sense and it never really got touched on that she was with her true love’s older brother?!

What ever happened to Marcie? The actress who played her was with one of the Fords offscreen.

^^ She's married to someone named Jason Munt and has a kid.

R53 the treatment of The Marty character was blasphemous. Especially considering the amount of investment the audience was asked to commit to for all the years as a tortured heroine after enduring a horrific crime. She became one of the most beloved characters the show ever created and Ron went in a took a hatchet job to it. It was ugly, sad and so wrong.

The rumor was that Haskell was pissed. I would love to hear what really went down.

The idea that Marty went "insane" over that lesbian ostrich McBANE made my skin crawl.

Marty was always a bore to me. Even when they put her damsel ass life in hopeless turmoil.

r60, and they did it all so they could put McBAIN back with Natalie.

Although I secretly love that even after having a kid together, they remained apart in the end.

Crazy Marty was entertaining as all hell bravo Susan Haskell but it was crAp! We didn’t even get a Marty And RH Todd scene. Not cool.

I was so over Marty and Todd scenes at that point.

[quote]oragatangs

What the fuck are these?

I was never over real Marty and real Todd scenes. They were magic together.

real Todd didn't even try after awhile. He sucked.

And he's still sucking on GH.

Crazy Marty was a complete desecration of the character, but at least we got to see her throw Natalie off the roof.

This fucking thread should have had a shout out to OLTL's heyday, not fucking boring Angel Square. It is BOMBING, Chile!!!!!

Shut your snatch, R70.

Then thread is BOMBING, Chile!!!!!

You anti-gay bitch, CAR-LOTTA!!!

God, how In fucking hated OLTL from 1997-2006!!!!

Angel Square SUCKS DICKS!!!!!

FUCK! I AM WRONG! I DID ENJOY SOME OF JFP'S OLTL , MINUS THE CHARACTER ASS-ASSINATION OF NORA!!!

OLTL SUCKED FROM 2000-2006, MINUS THE TRADING PLACES EPISODE AND LIVE WEEK!

R73 Yet somehow, 2002 was the only year OLTL won the Outstanding Drama Emmy.

R74, read my post, bitch.

Guess which episode won OLTL the Emmy?? Trading Places.

Checkmate, Bitch.

Gary Tomlin sucked balls, otherwise. And the show looked like SHIT.

Sleestack used to leave turds on the couch in her dressing room. The studio custodians were discreet.

R74 My point was that there were other years that they deserved to win more than during that era. And if it was the Trading Places episode that they won for in 2002, that makes it even worse because that was just a gimmicky episode.

Gotcha R77. It was the balance of a highly dramatic episode and the comedy of Trading Places that won OLTL the Emmy, The shows submitted 2 episodes. I cannot recall what the other episode was (I believe that it heavily involved Nora)

It was very much in JFP's playbook, actually. "The Very Special Emmy Episode"..

And I agree. OLTL sure as fuck should have won in 1994 for 1993. The show was not even nominated. It was a JOKE. I think AMC won.

I love the Trading Spaces episode. I've watched it on YT a couple of times and I'll probably watch again as long as it's there to see.

Remember when Frank used to submit the HS musicals for Best Drama? LMFAO.

Trading Spaces?

What does Frank submit these days, the Nurse' Ball performances?

God he sucks.

I am sure Uncle Frank will submit the Stumpy tribute episode.

The Trading Places episode

I don't like this thread atall.

[quote]Which one of the Ford brothers is gay in real life ?

Nic Robuck. He played James.

Their dad John Wesley Shipp is a huge nelly bottom homo. Bottoms for anyone. Ask JWS about Doug Marland’s toes.

Didn't Dr. Seuss write about a Slee?

Thanks for that R84, loved it. No other show could have pulled off humor so broad and seamlessly as OLTL. About Dano's character: When Rae Cummings came back to Llanview she had apparently become a psychologist of some renown during her long absence from the show, and was later exposed as practicing illegally as she had never even finished a degree. Was Rae ever jailed for her crime, is that how she was written off the show?

Didn't she become an advice columnist because she couldn't practice? It's a little hazy.

Didn't she become an advice columnist because she couldn't practice? It's a little hazy.

She became a town nuisance

Todd never finished college either and he became a media mogul AFTER being sentenced to jail for the gang rape.

It's a soap.

I liked Todd and Rae's therapy sessions:

After they stopped hating each, other Skye and Rae formed a close bond. Both actresses have previously played mother and daughter Felicia and Lorna in Another World. They were great in scenes when they were at each others throats. Here all is forgiven again.

Rae was a waste of contract! So many other characters belonged in her place.

R93 It helps when you inherit millions of dollars.

Fuck busybody Rae!

Rae was fun.

Renee should have gotten more to do. Screw Rae and Echo - all the Soap “names” they brought back to this show even though their characters sucked the first go around.

I still get a kick out this scene between Slee and Dano, going from the sublime to the ridiculous. Trying to out do each other using different acting techniques.

I'd like to see the gay pron film "Three Brothers" remade with the Ford brothers stepping in for the Rockland brothers. Isn't it about time for a remake?

Frank will produce it, R102.

r100, the one who featured Patty Elliot the most was JFP.

Hold the pepperoni

Of course, the real hunks were David Fumero and Mark Lawson.

Yes, r106, they were actually MEN. Not metrosexual himbos.

They truly were. Kamar de los Reyes also turned me on, but not to the level of David Fumero. There was always something annoying about Kamar.

KdlR always tried way too hard to be "intense". I grew to hate Antonio.

OLTL delivered on hunky men over the years. Do you remember Suede Pruitt? How about Christopher Douglas? Way, way back there was Mark Toland and Tom Berenger (I cried when his character died). A couple of the Kevins and Joeys and Tim Woleks were hot, but they hit pay dirt when they hired Josh Kelly. Alas, his time there was too short.

Dan Gauthier was such a good Kevin and an excellent actor. Sexy as hell, too, but they ended up not writing for the character eventually.

Very faceable, I'd say.

I wanted Gaulthier to sit on my face

Yeah I wanted some Dan G up in me. Hottest Kevin what a waste!!!

Dan G was indeed the best.....and hottest.

Though Tim Gibbs could get it, too.

Loved the song choice, it fit OLTL perfectly.

I'm R112. I meant to say "very fuckable" but, you know, damned autocorrect.

LOL r117, I was wondering what "very faceable" meant.

Dan Gautier was fantastic. A tragedy the show jettisoned him so we could have more of Michael Easton.

Memories...

I like faceable R112. Have you coined a new DL term?

I thought faceable meant either handsome or someone you were going to give a cum facial to, or get one from! LOL

You guys are teasing me because of autocorrect! Anyway, I miss my OLTL.

I miss my daily dose of Slee and Strassman.

Slee ate all those prunes to clean out her pipes before Clint pounded her ass.

Fetch is never going to happen.....and neither is "Strassman."

They say that Strassman was a miserable old cunt on the Days set. She screamed at a camerman. Per usual.

Put Strasser out of her misery!

The OLTL reboot should focus on Kevin Buchanan, Blair, Todd, Marty...Joey, Kelly, and possibly Cassie.

Or better yet be more about the Lord siblings Viki, Tina, and Todd...and their respected families.

Because I love you, Pt 1

I know it's RH on a OLTL thread, but you get Roscoe Born's ass in a speedo at the 58:20 mark.

Because I love you, Part 2

More Roscoe in a speedo, both bulge and butt shots. The good stuff starts around minute 14, continues throughout.

Roscoe was a beautiful, beautiful man.

He worked well with Slee

Roscoe had mental issues.

I think Roscoe and Robin Mattson are the two actors who've been on the most soaps

Roscoe was on Ryan's Hope,One Life to Live, Paper Dolls, Santa Barbara, All My Children, As The World Turns, Guiding Light, The City, Days of Our Lives, Passions and The Young and the Restless

Robin was on General Hospital, As The World Turns, Guiding Light, All My Children, Santa Barbara, The Bold and the Beautiful and Days of Our Lives

R135 here, Robin Strasser could also give Borne and Mattson ba run for their money, she was on The Secret Storm, Somerset, Another World, All My Children, One Life to Live, Knots Landing, 2000 Malibu Road, Passions and her upcoming contract role on Days of Our Lives.

That's 9 soaps for LaStrasser

I need Roscoe in me quite deeply

That was Ann Gillespie as Siobhan.

I'd forgotten how beautiful Michael Corbett was back when he was on RH.

Kin Shriner has eight soaps under his belt -- General Hospital and Port Charles, plus Texas, Rituals, Bold & Beautiful, As the World Turns and Young & Restless, and even an episode of Melrose Place.

Say what you will about people like JFP, or Rauch, or even Gottlieb, but they all had a specific vision and implemented a strong value over production. Compare any of them to Frank, and it's night and day. Frank has produced the same generic slop for 16 years.

R136 Strasser delivered on of my favorite lines in 2000 Malibu Road - "Ooooooh, this whore's been to collage!!" in the video @1:02:00

Wow, Strasser was an old whore even then!

Nora will be appearing on GH again.

Looks like she'll be on Monday. The preview shots at the end of Friday GH showed HBS.

SLEE!

SLEE GRACES our SCREENS AGAIN!

Could that picture of Slee be more photoshopped? Here's what she really looks like now.

R147 I think SOD is still using her picture from either the last ABC season or TOLN season.

Slee has the face and neck wrinkles.

BLUE BLOODS

Starring

SLEE

Happy for Erika!!

I'm happy for ES and very proud of her for not joining the hideous plastic surgery group. We all age, deal with it.

I'm already written CBS and given them my ad campaign for free:

Friday Night

Is

Slee

TV!

Where is Andrea Evans' triumphant return to TV, I ask?

So is Robin playing Vivian on DOOL? Has she said anything about Carlivati because I remember her being very critical of the writing on OLTL when she left.

I just saw an ad on ABC for 20/20 next week, which is about the murder of young actress Rebecca Scaeffer by her stalker. I swear they showed Slee as one of the "celebrities" who they interviewed for the story. Anyone know the connection?

Rebecca was on OLTL for a while and I think maybe her character's father was somehow involved with Viki. If memory serves she was very good on OLTL, very likeable.

They could possibly be talking about Andrea Evans being stalked?

You've all missed me, I know.

Did Seponski ever blow Ronnie Carvilati?

Clearly not, r160. Or he would have been back on DOOL.

Carlivati is a perv. He’s greasy. He said to call me “Uncle Ron”. Yeahright.

Nicholas Bechdel IN as nu-Cole.

Toss me down a prune, you old cunt!

Valentini was a huge mess of a producer but never got called out. And it hasn't changed since.

Frank gets the show in the can and does it cheap. It's the only reason he's still there.

[quote]Frank gets it in the can and does it cheap

A multi-tasker!

I wish Frankie would get ME in the can.

Did anyone know that Jensen Buchanan's son is an actor and was in Rise?

What's your favorite Angel Square scene? Mine are the riots and when Natalie and Jess had the cat fight to end all cat fights that had been building up for years.

R109

Is this show going to be brought back? Any news?

This was posted on facebook by the group True Soap Fans Want AMC and OLTL Back On ABC Daytime, @wewantsoaps

An ABC insider said that there was a meeting with Karey Burke (New ABC Entertainment President) and other ABC executives to discuss AMC and OLTL coming back, Frank Valentini ( General Hospital Executive Producer) also sat down at the meeting to discuss possible reboots. Nothing is official, but were getting closer of possibly getting our shows back. We do know there are multiple soap stars who want the shows back as well, were not sure who they all are but its a plus that the stars are with us in this fight. There has been all sorts of different talks about possibly rebooting or retooling both soaps with the same characters but different actors playing the roles ( we will call it rumors for now) Many of us would rather they continue off from 2011 instead of off the online versions, while there are a few who have suggested rebooting both shows for the newer generations, which would mean different actors/actresses playing the roles such as a new Erica Kane or new Nora Buchanan, but we don't think that will happen (it wouldn't be the same nor would it work) Like we said its all talks for now, nothing is official of yet. Now we just patiently wait, who knows a few months from now, we could be turning our TVs on at 1 PM (Eastern Time) and watching Erica Kane going after Jackson Montgomery.

I am not vouching for the reliability of the post.

R173. never going to happen.

According to Nora, during her appearance on GH today, Matthew and Destiny are finally getting married.

Tune in to 20/20 tonight on ABC. Slee will discuss Rebecca Schaeffer.

So far 20/20 is featuring Rebecca Schaeffer endlessly and hardly any Slee. She has been very eloquent so far. She hasn't aged at all, she looks fantastic.

R177. LOL. Its not about Slee- I loved those clear clips of the show from the 80's though! The show looked far prettier than I remembered!

I haven't watched it yet, but I'm kind of surprised they didn't interview Andrea Evans considering her own stalker problems, or did their time on OLTL not overlap?

Not that I believe another reboot is happening but having Valenshiti anywhere near it would guarantee another failure.

It made me incredibly nostalgic for the glory days of ABC soaps...

Is Slee a smoker?

No, r182.

Fumero was the most notorious smoker outside the OLTL studio.

I would never watch with new actors in the classic roles. If the actor has died or can't do it then write out that character. Actually it's only OLTL I would watch again. I stopped watching AMC years before it went off the air and I could never stand SL. I would hope RH would go back to being Todd on OLTL and ES as Viki. That would be heaven. I was never a Blair fan so I could live without KdP coming back. I wasn't that fond of Tea either but I could tolerate her but I think they should hire the actress who once played Rebecca Lewis. I liked Charlie for Viki and Nora and Bo I could take or leave. If any are still alive I'd like to see Larry and his family and please don't let them bring 180 year old Victor Lord for a third or forth time.

The problem with ABC and any type of OLTL reboot would be that it would likely be overseen or at least influenced by Uncle Frank.

The main reason why I liked the PP reboot was that it did not have the stench of the last years on ABC and that was because Frank and Ron were not involved.

The shows would never make enough money for ABC to consider this. This is a blatant lie. Give it up folks.

And IF this ever happened, it would be AMC rebooted or a AMC OLTL mashup that heavily favors AMC- and I think it would be called All My Children.

OLTL got no credit for its good ratings in its last year, beating GH and AMC, and the fact that OLTL's finale numbers were higher than AMC's- when AMC was basically the crown jewel soap of ABC. I thought that said a lot about the "red headed stepchild" show.

Loved OLTL, but it's over.

I have no clue why any real fans would want ABC's hands on these shows again, even in theory. Forget the fact that they were basically dismantled piece by piece over the 2000s. Just look at GH right now. It's miserable, generic, and quite dull.

Is the Jeff Giles book worth purchasing?

I was shocked to discover the guy who played James Ford is gay IRL

Really? James Ford screamed gay. His “romance” with Starr was laughable. Eddie Ford pimped his teenage sons out would have been a more interesting and realistic storyline. Could have explained more.

LMFAO @ r189 who is either trolling or the dumbest frau alive.

Is Jason Tam (Markko) gay IRL?

Jason Tam likes the peen, yes.

Some characters should just be permanently retired such as Dorian, Clint, Gigi, Bo, Blair, David Vickers (sorry Tuc), Victor Lord, Star and Mitch Lawrence. Keep or bring back Vickie if she doesn't look too old, Jess, Natalie, Danni, Carlotta and the Vega Boys (different actors), the younger Buchanan Boys, and Allison from the Cult. And Tina new actress. Actually a lot of the characters should be recast.

If you are getting rid of characters get rid of Carlotta and the Vega Boys.

Thanks, R194. I always thought Dan Gautier was hot, but now I'm seriously in love. (The face! The abs! The BULGE!)

Is Tuc Watkins gay? I only recently saw it confirmed that Tony Geary is gay.

Tuc Watkins is married to a man and they have children, so yeah I'd say he is gay.

I always had a crush on Trevor St John

r198

where?

R200 Did you see his and Tea's sex scene in the PP revival? I jerked off to it a few times.

Tuc is not married. He’s single and raising twins - a boy and a girl.

R203 Sorry I thought I read he got married, maybe I'm mixing him up with the character he played on Desperate Housewives, but HE is gay. And, even though I usually don't care for older guys, he could still get it.

Tony Geary dates both men and women.

[quote]Is Tuc Watkins gay? I only recently saw it confirmed that Tony Geary is gay.

Wow. Welcome out from under that rock you've been hiding under for the past six years.

Tuc Watkins officially came out in April 2013 with the launch of the online version of OLTL

As for Tony Geary, he has never officially come out, never done an interview with the press where he said "Yep, I'm gay."

He essentially lives in a glass closet, but every now and then, puts on a charade such as claiming that he and Elizabeth Taylor were sleeping together in the early 1980s.

Tony Geary reminds me a lot of Phil Spector. Were they ever chummy?

Bump for the Ford brother that did porn. Any chance the actor followed in the character's footsteps?

When is Slee on Blue Bloods? This week?

I’d watch a OLTL reboot with the younger generation like Kevin, Joey, Jessica...with minimum Viki, Bo, Tina

[quote] Is the Jeff Giles book worth purchasing?

Yes. It's not so much him writing as him collecting the comments of stars and backstage folks. It's very well done. I wish other shows would do the same.

It will only work for ABC to do a reboot if they can produce AMC and OLTL in the same studio, negotiate contracts way lower, and focus on a younger generation.

Prospect Park actually showed them the way to do it, but didn't have the ability to sustain it.

Whether the economics would work is very questionable. And that's probably what they are trying to figure out. Also, after both shows being off the air for almost a decade now (PP reboots aside) local affiliates have filled those slots with cheap local programming. They would be unlikely to give up those time slots.

[quote] Tony Geary dates both men and women.

Lady Geary may have escorted a woman or two to an event, but he's strictly dickly.

Did the Ford brothers ever run a train on Officer Oliver Fish?

[quote] Some characters should just be permanently retired such as Dorian, Clint, Gigi, Bo, Blair, David Vickers (sorry Tuc), Victor Lord, Star and Mitch Lawrence. Keep or bring back Vickie if she doesn't look too old, Jess, Natalie, Danni, Carlotta and the Vega Boys (different actors), the younger Buchanan Boys, and Allison from the Cult. And Tina new actress. Actually a lot of the characters should be recast.

Clint, Bo and Dorian should be recurring if used at all. Nora, same. Rotate them in if stuff is happening.

Blair is now at DAYS so that may be a moot point. Starr is dead and Victor and Mitch are unlikely to return.

No one wants Carlotta back, and her sons can stay gone.

Viki should have Kevin (Dan Gauthier) return with a new wife and adopted stepson. We find out the wife, instead of being sweet and kind as initially thought, is a money grubbing bitch. Jess or Natalie can catch on to her, or Dani, maybe. Then we have a Dorian vs Viki Next Generation. The stepson becomes close to Viki and becomes one of the family.

Tea and Dani are welcome back. Matthew can come back too.

Star is dead! Holy cow! When? Where? How? GH?

R212 The local affiliates would not have to give any time slot back. AMC and OLTL as a half hour each, could fill the Strahan and Sara slot.

R215 Starr has never been killed off, and would most certainly be part of any continuation.

Todd needs to stay gone right along with Blair.

and Tea too.

I wouldn't mind Roger's Todd if they could get Susan Haskell back and they acted as though Cartooni's hatchet job to poor Marty never happened.

Shit, sorry, I mixed that up. It was Starr's BF and kid that died.

R215 Dorian is at DAYS too now

Just dropping in to say Remember Me!

And MOO!

R221 She won't be there for long, DAYS is doing this thing where they bring a character and actor on for around six months then they leave.

As long as we're speaking in the hypothetical, any reboot needs to keep Frank and Ron FAR, FAR away

R223 I'm sure they'll leave it open for her to come and go

Slee was looking quite svelte on Blue Bloods the other night. Is she on the keto?

Could you see her bones?

[quote]Slee was looking quite svelte on Blue Bloods the other night. Is she on the keto?

I hope she and Grandpa Reagan have a thing. It could be interpreted that they're writing it that way. She could at least be his date for Jamie's wedding. Lucky Eddie.

I want to see more Slee on The Tom Selleck Programme

The Tom Selleck Programme is, to me, the Will Estes Programme. I would not watch it so eagerly without Jamie.

r230, you are daft. That's like saying The Sally Field Programme was The Matthew Rhys Programme. It's just not right.

I said "to me," r231.

I never watched Blue Bloods in the first place because of Tom Selleck and his right wing Republican leanings. Ruined Magnum too after I found that out.

Reagan? Really? Blech.

Miss Sleestack looked good. Yeah, she looks 72, but she hasn’t butchered her face like others.

No Republican here, but I'm not going to skip a Will Estes program (bitch @ r231, you can have "programme") because of Selleck's politics.

Is the Victoria Sleestack Programme ever returning to ABC Daytime? Strahan & Sara is tanking.

[quote]Is the Victoria Sleestack Programme ever returning to ABC Daytime?

No.

Does Slee still use Youthful Essence?

Slee never used Youthful Essence. She prefers a prune and vaseline concoction.

Doug Wert from OLTL - the bulging muscles, the washboard abs, and the treasure trail

See video

^ r240 = Scott Eldridge and Lila Roberts

r240 makes me want to hunt for treasure.

Doug Wert was ok but not all that

He had sufficient.

Is Doug Wert a homo?

I always thought Doug Wert was drool worthy.

There were so many characters in the Rauch era that never really registered with me. I was young but still only think about a handful of characters.

Wade was dumb guy hot and he had that sugar sweet blonde gf Marilyn

FACT: Robin Strasser is truly a very nice person. How do I know? Met her in February 2012 post-performance ("Love, Loss, and What I Wore") outside of The Westside Theatre in sub-zero temperatures and OMG she braved the fierce cold (in a gorgeous, glamorous full-length mahogany mink coat) and greeted every single freezing fan with genuine warmth and unmistakable sincerity. Throughout our conversation, her smile was real, not fake...she encouraged my questions about her craft + career...and then -- right when I started getting ferklempt about it all -- Robin Strasser reached over right away and gave me a big hug. Only a real mensch responds like this to a moment like that.

Hi Robin!

Ask the OLTL crew how ‘nice’ Robin is.

Why don't you tell us, r251? Instead of bringing up that tired line all the time?

Watching some old 1992 clips - I had forgotten how good Mia Korf was. A real talent in a unique character. Don't get me wrong, I like Kassie DeP and she became an OLTL fixture, rightfully so. But it really was like Malone was writing a different character. Much like he did with Tina when Tesreau took over.

Really hate that she wears tortured, murdered animals, but I have to say I used to tweet with her and she was very nice and very appreciative of anything nice I said about her acting. We tweeted back and forth for a couple of years. Then again used to tweet a lot and even talk on the phone (via a radio show she had) with Roseanne and she and her boyfriend Johnny were amazing to talk to. She loved Obama back then so she was still somewhat normal and look what happened there so I have no idea what Robin is like these days. At least she's not insane on Twitter and I doubt she's a Trumper.

OG Blair was a great actress. A tortured anti-heroine mysterious femme fatale temptress very different from the vampy bitch on wheels with a southern twang. Liked both but very different takes on character.

Hated what Malone did with KT. She was a ditz. Not clever or cunning. A soccer mom. I liked Karen Witter as Tina also Malone wrote for her making her more of a misunderstood heroine.

I don’t think ether versions of Malone’s Tina’s were accurate. AE was a vixen! A very Marilyn Monroe lovable badgirl who used her sexuality and played dumb to be underestimated. Cunning always looking to get ahead but made bad choices. A lot of times she showed her heart but was selfish!

AE bored the living fuck out of me. 70% of it was her wispy voice.

I really came to love Karen Witter as Tina.

Stephan Markle has passed away.

Always loved Mel & Dorian.

R259 So sad, like you I loved Mel and Dorian.

Markle’s passing...

Even though I was not a fan of the Labines entire tenure, I did appreciate what they with Dorian and Dorian/Mel. I really enjoyed them delving into her past and the focus on the Cramers.

The Labines did do a decent job with the Cramers. They gave Gina Tognoni her meatiest stuff and recognized she could handle it. There's two Younger Emmys at least that shoulda been hers if daytime had rethought its rules earlier. Tognoni failed to be nominated a number of years where Y&R was getting little girls and recurring characters that had half as much story as a chunk of young actors at the time.

So did Strassman not know that her great friend Markle died months ago? Some friend.

Cue r264 bringing up Strasser's mother, sons, and of course, the OLTL crew.

With the Labines, it was like watching two different shows. They had some pretty good stuff (Cramers/Dorian & Mel, Todd and Tea, the Gannons) but there were also monumental clunkers (Maggie in clown school, that damn parrot, more Irish bombing b/s)

The Labines wrote some real +hokey+ shit. That was their weakness. Heartfelt and humane writing with ALOT of hokey.

I want the Vega boys to sex me up in Angel Square one night.

Only Cristian, r268. Antonio = assholio.

Compared to the River Rat, Angel Square might as well be Llanfair.

That's because Angel Square has the spirit of Luna watching over it.

I’d pound the hell out of Rex

And Cutter would pound the hell out of cuckold Joey.

I don't remember Cutter. Was he post-JFP?

He was on during the very last year of the show. He and his girlfriend were snowing Joey Buchanan.

I'd love to pull a train with the last Kevin, the last Joey, Jon Russell, Cord, the youngest and oldest Ford brother, Cutter, the aptly named Brody Lovett, both Vega brothers, and you can throw in Tea's brother.

Luna had two hot brothers!

Cutter was cute but he never filled out his black boxer briefs the way I hoped. but Nash or Jared yes!

I could not stand Luna or anyone connected with that totally annoying character. She also was not easy to look at.

Lee Ann and Jason and Wanda. I miss the early 90s.

Wish they had done more with Lee ann and Yasmine Bleeth. She could have been a social climbing bitch not some heroine hick. loved Wanda.

Wanda Webb was a nosy buttinski old bitch.

Aw, I loved Luna. I thought she was a unique character.

I suppose YB should've headed back to daytime at some point. Maybe she tried to to no avail. She had good momentum in those motws that got her nowhere even though she was good in them.

They could have easily recast LeeAnn at that point. It would have had much more dramatic effect, and maybe then Duke would not have been such an afterthought in later years.

I really thought when Duke died they would bring her back to get revenge on Kevin. To me Lee Ann was basically the next gen Becky Lee. And Becky Lee was brought back multiple times over the years. Lee Ann could have been used in similar ways to give Kevin more story.

r285, the show never had any real interest in Kevin and killing off his son for absolutely no reason was proof of that.

Yes, Kevin became an afterthought once the show decided to make Todd a central character.

Even with Geiger, Kevin was not really a central character. They found the best "type" of Kevin with Kevin Stapleton who was not the greatest actor but played loveable smarm well. And I was a big Kevin/Cassie fan, but as with everything, JFPee fucked it up.

Even Viki and Jessica preferred Todd.

Todd really was a detrimental character to the overall fabric of the show, much like Stumpy on GH.

And then they made him Podd and let him ruin Oakdale.

r289, Well Todd never raped them.

Rafe Garrettson had a huge crank.

Lee Ann needed to come back and exacts revenge on Kevin and Kelly.

They killed Duke. Ruined the potential of Kevin/Cassie and didn’t even care about the Todd/Kevin feud which could have driven story for years. They found great actors to play Kevin but they just didn’t care about the character.

[quote]They found great actors to play Kevin

They should have stuck with Kirk Geiger.

Kirk was too short.

Yes god forbid anyone ever challenge Todd. That mentality killed OLTL.

Kirk Geiger looks rough now, and I say that as a fan.

Kevin Stapleton was great! I liked KG but not much of a leading man. My favorite was Dan Gautier who had all the qualities that made him a great Kevin and Todd adversary as well as a hot leading man!

I thought Kirk Geiger was doing fine. It would not have occurred to me to replace him. He had such a cute face...kind of like the London twins. Kevin Stapleton did nothing for me. Neither did Dan Gauthier. Both too generic.

I hated when they killed off Duke

Kirk Geiger was too short.

Duke should never have been killed or aged. Horrible choices on TPTB but they stopped valuing Kevin and Joey and Cord and Tina and their kids!!! Same goes for killing Drew - bad choice! Don’t like that we lost Max, Al, and Gabrielle!!!

It was all about Todd Manning and his family. And the Buchanan Twins who ate the show!!!

I liked Drew, particularly as played by Victor Browne. Why did they replace him? He kept me watching.

I don't remember Duke. He was Kirk Geiger's son with Yasmeen Bleeth?

Who were the Buchanan Twins? Matthew and ???

Messica and Natalie.

After my time.

Elaine Princi looks fine! She sends her regards.

I disagree killing off Drew drove story for Bo and Nora for many years. I’m not completely against killing off legacy characters if there’s a meaning to it that will benefit the long story. But Duke was simply killed off for a sweeps stunt that had no long term implications for the characters. Thumbs down.

Both Drew’s were interesting especially as a shady character. Liked him with kelly. HAted they turned him into a cop then killed him!

Why did they get rid of Victor Browne? He was wonderful, and so believable as "Son of Bo."

surprised Max & Luna's twins never showed up

Or we never saw a grown CJ? Would have loved the Lord Buchanan heir to have been a scheming gay and plotting with his mother and impressing grandpa Asa.

OLTL will be back on Hulu now that Disney owns it. Sleestack is a go on the revival.

r312, surprised? really? Max was an afterthought for years.

OLTL squandered so many possibilities in building up side families, the Holdens, the Roberts, the Woleks. And it was even more ridiculous given Frank was with the show for 20+ years. All those fucktards - Frank/Frons/Ron has complete tunnel vision. It was always about finding ways to push the pets, regardless of anything else.

Yet TPTB wrote for Rex and worked so hard to tie him to the canvas. Or the bullshit Ford brothers. Same goes for a Natalie and Langston - did we need these characters to be core and eat up the show? Hated how hard they pushed John mcbain on us giving him family members and making the shows star when Kevin, Tina, Cord, Max, Joey...and so many others sidelined!!!

r316, exactly what I meant by going to any extreme to push pets. Rex was a prime example. As well as the god awful Easton. And Bree Williamson. And Alderson. And any incarnation of Todd.

[quote]OLTL will be back on Hulu now that Disney owns it. Sleestack is a go on the revival.

Rumor is that Kirsten Meadows and Cusi Cram have also inked their contacts.

Is Arlene Dahl back as Lucinda Schenk?

Bring back Kim the nanny!

[quote]Rumor is that Kirsten Meadows and Cusi Cram have also inked their contacts.

How about Margaret Klenck? Has she inked a new contract?

Kris Alderson and Ron Carliavati are trying to get FV on board with a Starr Manning centered reboot of OLTL. She'd be like a young Erica Kane, with Blair as her Mona. Of course, other characters would be back too.

That could work.

HAted Starr! Can anyone think of a RC or FV character creation that was actually not that bad?

I did not and could not hate Starr because she was like Jessica, and Robin on GH, a character that we saw grow up on screen in natural time. She also was NOT an RC or FV creation. I do blame RC and FV for pushing her to the front too much.

Starr didn’t stay the same character she was when she was a kid that ruined her for me. WHere did the clever schemer go? Instead she was this mopey mouthy heroine? Awful.

Starr was sexy jailbait with a sharp edge.

r325, "Tessica" was detestable by the end. Talk about the complete destruction of character.

They did everything ass backwards.

They were always determined to make Jessica "bad" with BreeCheese when she worked the best as a strong heroine.

And conversely, they were so determined to make Starr "good" and the generic "teen heroine" when she should have been a supremely interesting wild child.

Starr has money and therefore power thanks to being Todd's daughter.

Erica was poor and lusted after fame and the finer things in life.

Gonna take some major rewriting to put Starr into Erica's situation.Besides, Starr is about 30 now. Erica was 17 when we met her.

R330 Blair isn't the Mona type, either. Addie, yes, but not Blair. I'm guessing they just mean putting a mother/daughter relationship at the center of the show. Or, they could focus on Starr and her Aunt Vikki, they had the sort of Erica/Mona relationship. Maybe Blair, Todd and Dorian are no longer in Llanview, so Starr has to rely on her Aunt Vikki for support. Starr really should have been much more of a Tina like character. I could see her having gone a little wild after the deaths of her baby and boyfriend. However, when she left Port Charles it was implied that Cole and Hope were actually alive, so I don't know.

How about instead of trying to do an Erica/Mona redux, they go further back in soap history and do a Love of Life style show focusing on two sisters, Starr and Danielle. Since Starr had become the "good" heroine, she could be the Vanessa Dale and Danielle could be the bad Meg Dale style sister.

We need Nigel and Roxy running a B & B in the Poconos, with much hilarity ensuing.

I just need my Slee fix. Fuck everyone else.

Taina Elg IN as Olympia Buchanan.

There was no Andrea Evans types in daytime who could have replaced her and emulated her effect as Tina, so they went with actresses with completely different energies. It made no sense.

Maybe Lynn Herring from GH would have been an adequate Tina recast as she shared some of Andrea's traits but that's the only actress I can think of.

Lynn Herring is ugly and annoying as hell.

KA needs to never act again

R337 She has become annoying, starting towards the end of Port Charles, but she was electrifying on GH in the late 1980s/early 1990s, back when she married Tony and Alan Q, and her early relationship with Scott. She, however, has never been ugly.

Andrea Evans big comeback as Tina was horrible. She didn’t interact with any of the characters she should have and was written as this dumb over the top ingenue. It was awful. Would have been cool to see where Tina was as an adult. How she evolved.

r340, CarTOONi fucked up that initial return big time.

Tina did evolve some when Karen Witter in the playing the role. Then the character regressed when they hired Krista Tesrau (who was a bad casting choice). They clearly just picked her because she was popular on Guiding Light.

*when Karen Witter was the playing the role

Blame Malone for that. Not Krista. She would have been capable of playing a smarter, stronger Tina, but he was set on that David plot. Although KT and TW did have some great chemistry.

I agree the writing for Krista's Tina wasn't great but she is still my second favorite Tina. I wish they had kept her around, David and Dorian could be fun at times, but David and Krista's Tina was great.

I always wanted to see Karen Witter back in the role for a bit just to see how she matured.

LOVED KW in the role. Could have accepted a new well casted actress in the role as long as the writers did Tina Justice. Feels like AE outgrew the role like her version didn’t work as an adult Tina.

"Casted" - not a word. Try "cast." It's in irregular verb.

Which actress should have been casted as Tina? I was surprised they re-casted Andrea Evans. There are better actresses they could have casted, actresses who didn't have bags under their eyes.

r349, it's ironic how necessary Tina was in 1990 (absolutely needing a recast), but yet, she became an afterthought by the late 90s.

R350- She only became an afterthought due to Malone undermining the character with weak writing and Krista Tesreau's DOA "performance". My god that was horrible. After much review on Youtube I am really no longer a fan of the majority of the Malone era. What a snooze, ultimately.

I just cannot see KA/Star being at the center of a reboot unless they totally revamp her character or recast. Do any of the fans really want to see her back? How did the character end up leaving GH?

r352, there is no reboot. That is all just to get the last remaining fans in a tizzy.

Marilyn Chris signing on for the reboot, as long as Wanda gets some quality stories.

Lynn Benesch is all in on the reboot. Meredith Lord never died.

Katherine Glass: ALL IN as Jenny vernon on the reboot!

When does Robin appear on DOOL? It seems like forever since the announcement.

Honestly, I could see some sort of OLTL and AMC coming to Hulu, now that Disney has complete control of it. I could see them doing the two thirty minute episodes a week schedule that Prospect Park was using at the end. Having new content that will appear year round, on a set schedule, is a plus for a streaming service as it drives viewers to keep coming back and discovering other content.

They just need to keep the casts small and budget wise it should be fine. I would have no more than a dozen regular characters, with a focus on younger legacy characters, with a few veteran names, like Vikki on OLTL, or Erica on AMC, but the older veteran characters should only be played by the original actors. They can always bring other actors and characters back for short term guest roles. As long as they respect each show's history, while making it completely accessible to new viewers, it could work. They just need to make sure that they have fresh writing.

Ellen Holly IN as Carla Hall, with the stipulation that she not have any scenes with Sleestack.

Some are speculating that the cancellation of WWTBAM could lead to something, but ABC no longer even owns that timeslot, right?

Cameron Matheson might be an interesting addition to any reboot.

R360 If WWTBAM is Who Wants To Be A Millionaire, it would not have anything to do with a reboot, because it is a syndicated program, though produced by ABC/Disney, it is the same as Live with Kelly and Ryan. It doesn't even air on my ABC affiliate, it is on the CW affiliate. The only shows that are on ABC Daytime right now is The View, Strahan and Sara, and GH.

I have no interest in seeing a half-assed twice a week OLTL with nothing but young characters. When I was a teen I hated stories for young characters on the soaps. I was interested in long term adult characters and I still am. I'm also not interested in twice a week. Four days a week is the least I'd be interested in. Don't forget Hulu isn't free like PP online was. If I have to pay for it it better damn be what I want to see.

R363 Everyone, I knew watched the PP shows, on hulu or itunes. When, I said younger characters I didn't mean teens, per se, but characters in their 20s and 30s. Most of the long running characters, such as Vikki on OLTL and Erica on AMC, started out as teens, before growing into the characters they became.

Out of the PP shows I really enjoyed AMC, because they seemed to get the age balance right for storylines, better than OLTL did. Twice a week would be ideal, at least at the beginning, because you need to attract a generation or more of viewers who are not in the habit of watching everyday. If you really love these shows, you'd be happy to get even one episode a week, because one episode of a half-assed OLTL is better than no OLTL.

I wish they could stream old episodes somewhere.

the three Ford brothers, is it true the one who played the youngest was the oldest IRL and the one who played the oldest was the youngest? and the middle one is gay and married?

Who cares? They all sucked

[quote]Most of the long running characters, such as Vikki on OLTL and Erica on AMC, started out as teens,

Viki always seemed to be in her late 40s-50s. Even when pregnant.

My sons were all HOT!

I’d watch a Ford Brother Gang bang

Kathy Glass IN! Back as Jenny who was only suffering amnesia after the avalanche.

r364, Viki was in her early 20's, just past college age when the show began in 1968.

Meredith was a bit younger.

I think it's back.

Brynn Thayer was last on daytime as recently as 2011 as a Susan Banks recast on Days of Our Lives, when Eileen Davidson wasn't available

nobody ever cared about Brynn Thayer.

R372 My point was more that she was a young character, but you are right she wasn't a teenager. I stand corrected.

ABC should just run old episodes featuring Slee, Strassman, Tina Evans and Fiona Medina.

R377. LOL

Tina Evans and Fiona Medina. I fucking love that.

Could someone start a thread on tutorials on how to ride a dick?

Roxie should start a neighborhood watch.

Roxy and Nigel had hot sex

R381 That was one storyline I hated, even though I actually liked both characters. They should have just had Nigel come out, he seemed so obviously gay and it was clear he was in love with Asa, and that is why he put up with all his crap. Asa kept getting married to all these people, but the only ones that truly loved him was Nigel and Renee.

Roxy would've been much more effective had she been written less dumb and more troublemaker but soap writers have a hard time writing troublemakers who steer clear of the law unless you're a GH gangster. She's just one example but I've never understood why soap is adamantly against writing asshole characters who don't engage in breaking the law.

R383 I actually liked Roxy, the way she was. She was kind of OLTL's version of Opel. And, once Echo came back, she made Roxy look great. On paper they were similar, but Echo was horrible and a waste of Kim Zimmer.

Roxie as a dangerous grifter was a better character than the idiot bimbo with a kind heart she became. She was truly menacing at the start!!!!

40th and FINAL EPISODE of the OLTL reboot streamed in August 2013. Damn. This show had a lot going on.

I hated that the show ended just as Ron Raines started. I loved him on GL and I thought he could become the new Asa.

Aw, a 4 seconds cliffhanger of crazy Alison Perkins as OLTL unexpectedly bites the dust. Sad.

I read anal square and was briefly interested.

I think someone should start a new gay soap called "Anal Square." It should be a hit!

The OLTL reboot was lightyears better than any of the 4 remaining soaps.

Is there a thread that discusses actress Ellen Holly? Her tenure on the show sounds really fascinating...and hair raising.

In this clip, the "Martin" she refers to is actually actor Arthur Burghardt. Did their chemistry on the show together as Carla and Jack really appear uncomfortable, or did they come across as fine?

I watched a few of those Ellen Holly videos, and she seems a bit ... off her rocker. She had so much trouble with so many people, it’s hard not to believe the problem was her.

R393 She is a bit like Brenda Dickson and Victoria Rowell from Y&R, she has let resentment eat away at her so much that she has gone crazy. You can't tell the truth from the fiction, when any of them talks.

Holly is nuts. As someone said, SHE was the problem.

Ellen Holly was great at the beginning of OLTL. After that, she became less interesting. Her voice was peculiar and her dislike of one of her co-stars (Arthur Burkhardt?) was noticeable. I know she believes she was let go too early, but in fact she was let go too late.

The OLTL thread has truly died when all that is left to talk about is crazy Ellen Holly.

Then let's discuss the delicious David Fumero, the hottest actor among a set of very hot guys.

Lil no!

I just re-read Lil’s Autobiography. The Tercel Years: How I got fired in a parking garage. It’s a page turner.

Anyone who goes after Slee gets no respect from me.

I loved, loved, loved watching See for decades on OLTL. She was nothing short of great. (Strasser, too.)

Me too and together, Viki/Dorian scenes, they were magic you just don't see these days. I also loved both characters in scenes with Todd, especially ES and RH, but RS was great with him too. RH's Todd was wasted with Blair and Tea. They should have just kept him in stories with these powerhouse actresses and forgotten about trying to make him a love interest to anyone. Believe it or not I also like RH in scenes with Kale Brown. So much better than Sam and Nora or the totally horrid Sam and Blair. Actually I really only liked Blair in scenes with the Cramer "girls."

I really wanted a long term, creepy, incestuous affair between Todd and Niki

I liked Todd and Marty scenes as adversaries. Also later with AE as Tina I really enjoyed that sibling dynamic!

So ... what was the story with Anna Lee being fired?

I read in the attached blog post (which sounds like it was written by Liza at times) [italic] ("She was said to enjoysthe role greatly") [/italic] , that the producers wanted to do a big funeral for her on the show ... but why do that if thet already killed the character?

^^ oh dear me ... she's from GENERAL HOSPITAL (!)

I was thrown of by seeing "Lil" .... and knowing actress Anna Lee had been in a car crash in 1982.

Blair was written somewhat as a submissive punching bag to anyone she gave a little what for to and it wasn't like whoever it was didn't have it coming. I always wanted Blair to be a bona fide BOW (bitch on wheels) because that's what I thought we were getting when KdP was put into the role i.e., playing the new hire's strenghs. It would've been grand to let her have the upper hand more often than not a la Nellie Oleson re: TnT, Asa, Skye, etc. The Cramer women tagline mantra got old too. Kelly should've been bitchier too. Sweet, but prone to flying off the handle unexpectedly. Ya know? Like just a quirk.

Anna Lee was fired because she was so old, you couldn’t understand what she was saying and she couldn’t remember shit. It literally would take her 20-30 takes to get her lines right in a scene. They didn’t have time for that shit. Yes, she still wanted to act, but the fact was that she could no longer act. It happens when you get old. You lose abilities.

Blair got declawed for sure. Hated what an idiot and victim she became especially during the TSJ Todd days. She became a heroine and not the bitch she came on as when KDP took over. I think Spencer Truman romance ruined her. I did enjoy her dynamic with Tea in the end. And her TnB reunion was great.

"You are an evil, vicious monster sealed inside the shell of an aging whore!"

Oh, that was faaaaabulous!

When the hell does Strasser air on DOOL?

Obligatory montage at [bold]10:45[/bold] mark:

GREAT clip R411. One thing I can say about Gottlieb was that she made OLTL a very good looking/classy show.

ABC must have saved millions a year on the electric bill alone. Rauch's bright lighting sucked up half the wattage in NYC.

But overall after much review- it was generally a giant snooze fest, minus 3-4 excellent stories.

THAT was a great scene.

^^ [italic]"Butt out, Renee!"

You could slather on the rouge with a trowel and couldn’t hide the ugliness underneath!

Viki & Dorian forever and always

The guy that played Jeffrey in the reboot was on the Tonys last night. He was dancing as part of the Kiss Me Kate number, and pretty good at it, too.

R413 Late sumrmer.

Did Slee attend the Tony Awards?

She couldn't. She had to manage the prune sampling table at D'Ags.

R419, that's Corbin Bleu. He is incredible in "Kiss Me, Kate" on Broadway. He actually dances on the ceiling, not like Fred Astaire did through trick photography, but right there before your very eyes. He's a great dancer.

I can’t wait to see robin Strasser on days of our lives. I hope time has been kind to her..

Wasn't that announced like a while ago? I guess DOOL tapes that far in advance?

It will actually be nice to see Robin and Kassie share scenes again. I just hope it's not all high camp, but I know the writer so.....

R425 I think they are now six-eight months in advance. It can really wreck the suspense. For the last few weeks Will has been battling a tumor that was supposed to be deadly, yet a few months ago he had posted a pic to IG of him on set for this year's Halloween episodes, so you knew he was going to live.

Slee will be playing the part of Roxie Hart onstage in a Conneticut production of Chicago, if any DLers are in that neck of the woods this August.

r428

lol

Currently DAYS is taping seven months ahead. Robin should begin airing in late summer.

I have my tickets to see Miss Victoria Sleestack in the theater this summer.

7 months ahead??!! Dafuq?

Article's focus is self explanatory but sharing here because it briefly mentions La Strasser!

Luckinbill not bad looking at all when younger. Didn't he even resemble Tuc Watkins a little?

Wow, never noticed that before but yes, R434 - uncanny similarity!

I read the obit for Martin Charnin (Annie) and didn't realize Shelly Burch, aka Delilah, was his wife.

Deliliah was one of my favorite characters and Shelly Burch was so pretty

I wonder if they're still talking about bringing OLTL back?

How did they write Deliah out?

That summer of 1988 gave me LIFE chiles!!!!

This little gay boy found great comfort in Delilah, Bo, and Didi-

That summer was OLTL at its zenith. I cried like a metal case when Didi died.

I had never really watched a soap for 3 months straight, and I never expected her to die.

It was a first, to feel that way about someone!

I know, Mary!!!! But how I adored that show.

MARY!

How...how much more do you want, Mr. Callison?

Haven't I said what everyone wants to hear? What you want everyone to hear?

That I am a common hooker like Katrina Karr? That Marco Dane was my pimp! Is that what you want me to say? What do you want from me? You want blood? You want me to say that I'm lower than the lowest piece of scum? You want more filth? You want more slime? You want more names? I'll give you another name -- Talbot Huddleston! He was my first john! He was the first in a string of so many men, I don't even remember their names!

Now? NOW ARE YOU SATISFIED?????

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