One Direction 1D Thread 6 - Putting as Much Effort into the Title as Harry Styles Puts into His Music

I wonder how hard his management tried to hide this article ? If they tried, and they should have, it didn't work. I'm still shaking my head at it.

Given how much they invested in the "he's such a real artist narrative" it really is a shock this made it through. It's hard to see this as anything other than Bhusker throwing shade, as he clearly knows the image Harry is trying to present, and this pisses all over it.

R2 But then he goes on to say "The way it came out, everyone's saying, “Oh it’s David Bowie, it’s like ’70s classic rock.” But it was more about him wanting to have that cool band. I thought, he can sing his ass off; he’s a phenomenal performer. If this is what he wants to do, this’ll be really, really special."

Laid the crap on kind of thick. It's just a very odd interview. As I mentioned before, I feel bad for Harry.

And I don't think what he ended up with is a rock band. JMO

The article seemed very positive to me, was the worry that he was ripping people off?

I thought that was Lemmy for a second

No R4. He didn't even have his own demos or his own ideas to present to the producer. He wanted to be taken seriously as an artist but he had nothing of his own to put forward. Usually a producer doesn't have to start from scratch with a singer that wanted so bad to be taken seriously.

[QUOTE]And I don't think what he ended up with is a rock band

Apart from when they're trying to scam their way into the Grammys. And fail.

R6 Ah, I see. So the whole thing was pre-canned for him. Fair point.

R8. It's just odd that Bhasker said all those things. Kind of pissy.

R9 Maybe he was just being candid. Surely he could have said things meaner if he'd wanted.

R10 I'm sure he is telling the truth but you know how smoke and mirrors are usually used with media.

Louis has a new able and for some reason is on the cover of a fashion magazine. House of Solo - can't say I've ever heard of it

My favourite comment from ONTD:

[QUOTE]I guess he thinks he can make it if he tries.

I have to admit, he cleans up well.

The stache is a no but he did clean up nicely on the cover.

Really hoping that Z pulls it together. The rest are fine and doing ok but his voice is special.

R14 You're right, no facial hair for Louis

Run Harry, run !

Fleetwood Mac and Stevie solo are clients of Irving Azoff. Spinning, spinning, Harry = rock. So the kids and now the olds are supposed to embrace one of the most vacant, created singers. I guess he does dress like a grandpa in the loud shirts and sizes too big, wrinkled chinos. Hilarious. They must be worried about album 2.

'He wanted to be taken seriously as an artist but he had nothing of his own to put forward. Usually a producer doesn't have to start from scratch with a singer that wanted so bad to be taken seriously'

What the fuck are you talking about? He was the lead singer for 1d and sang all the choruses and a lot of the verses. Their albums were written to showcase HIS voice, especially the last one. He didn't need demos because he has five albums worth of songs where he was the lead vocal. He also had songs he'd written alone, like the one he wrote for Ariana Grande, Just a Little Bit of Your Heart.

He played the White Stripes to give an idea of where he might want his sound to go but his album ended up sounding nothing like the White Stripes.

Complimentary article in UK Vogue about Harry today.

'In the past, Met Gala hosts have taken to the stage. With Harry and Gaga both billed as co-hosts, could we be due a duet from this polymath pairing? That could be quite marvellous, and also truly camp if both bring their stagey A-game.'

Polymath! Now let's see the anti Harry troll start frothing and weeping.

Ugly new picture of Louis. He looks as if he's in his 40s. Balding and miserable as sin, with elderly eyes that would really benefit from some cosmetic procedures.

Steroid queen Liam Payne today.

My favourite comment from ONTD:

'God. That transition from Zayn to Louis in the You and I video is both visually and sonically the worst and most jarring thing 1d has ever managed to do.'

They recognise the fug over there, while the Larrie queen here is still deep in denial and also thinks Niall is still good looking.

Harry's Japanese boyfriend.

Harry can do a lot better than that old guy. He's a film director so Harry might be in discussion to do some more acting. He'll show up canoodling with a 5 ft 8 blonde model soon enough, he always does.

He's pictured more with this guy than he is with women.

He isn't doing anything other than hang out with that guy. Get back to me when he's canoodling or making out like he did with Kendall and Camille.

Liam Payne's got roid rage.

Louis is tweeting about his band. Last time his guitarist had a much more powerful voice than him which was hilarious. Louis ended up being a backing singer yet again.

What is known about the guy?

Cute dogs.

Harry has an odd face, from some angles he looks elfin, with that pointy, upturned nose.

There are several posts I cannot see, has the spazz troll been triggered?

No clue who the guy is.

So much nicer with the spazz troll blocked.

Agree.

How shameful for the spaz troll to come to this thread, rather than stay in its "real thread". There's a lesson for it to learn, about just how odious a person you have to be that people won't even post in a thread you created.

The funniest thing about this whole thread business is how it's still about all five guys. Even the Harry stan seemingly knows a Harry solo thread would die a death.

The troll is mostly likely a shill. He has been around for years and is likely part of a SM team, with his talking points posts filled with facts no one cares about.

I Googled Harry Styles dog and there are a lot of pics of Harry with the Asian guy and/or the dogs belonging to the Asian guy. Wonder where all of that will lead, guess we will see.

If Z is posting that he is looking forward to performing again, maybe that will be teed up sooner rather than later. Maybe short festival slots or small clubs would be a good idea. His performances after Pillow Talk was released went fine, such a shame that he pulled the plug. Even addicts who think they need to use to perform and deal with life on the road can turn it around. The road and mech is where all the money is these days. Hopefully he has gone to rehab and has learned a few coping skills.

R33 I'm not sure the troll is on a SM team. To rude, aggressive and his facts aren't always correct.

It would be nice if Zayn could get himself together. But, you know what, I'm having a hard time picturing him performing alone. Odd, I know.

Zayn and Gigi are back together again.

I doubt RCA will put up the money to get a Zayn tour insured. He isn't reliable at all and could easily cancel and lose them yet more money. They financed the six expensive music videos he released last year and saw barely any return from the sales of Icarus Falls.

Pictures of Louis out clubbing with his long term girlfriend, who he's been with since he was 19. This thread's resident Larrie will be crying.

He seems to clear his cookies a lot. His obsession with Larries - dude, time moves on. Given his persistence over years and the vehemence with which he denies SM teams are a thing - pretty likely to be on one.

Z singing alone at link. His all female band was a cool idea. Hope he is ready now.

Certainly not on any professional social media team. However, could well be one of those pathetic volunteer fan squad type things which the saddest of the sad do in the hope they'll be noticed by their fav. Like the ones who'd organise listening parties to artificially boost streaming figures, etc.

Plenty of professional teams organize listening parties

Trying to derail and control threads on here over years, cannot rule out getting paid.

Anyone think Z might show up as a surprise guest at Coachella? Would be a great audience for him.

I don't mean actual parties. I mean arranging groups of stans who leave the newest album on replay at home whilst they're out at school or work or even whilst they're asleep, etc.

For example, Z has a professional team from his record company organizing streaming parties. I am sure fans do it too, but often with support from professional teams who run the SM of the artist.

There was a lot of press late last spring that he was hitting the road, guess they did a lot of recording/re-recording instead. Has anyone seen news besides his tweet?

'Trying to derail and control threads on here over years, cannot rule out getting paid. '

You have been here since 2013, always recognisable by your slightly stilted English, incessant allusions to PR shilling and you elliptical style of writing. You used to be a regular on the Ass of Louis threads and constantly made the case for him being gay and closeted.

I was on the threads too, derailing your ridiculous theories. You are a Larrie, although you'll never admit it these days.

All the 1d stans stream manically on as many devices as possible. Louis' new single is out on March 7th and his fans have already worked out how many streams his single needs to break into the Spotify Top 10 in the UK. Something like 210k.

Zayn is not about to tour, ever. RCA won't fund it. If he had proved he could manage a prerecorded performance for a TV show to promote his 2018 singles, it might have been different. But there is zero evidence that quailing Zayn can stand on a stage and sing. He last did this nearly three years ago.

No, just his tweet.

Oh Liam, smh

Liam is desperate for publicity. He'll talk out about the slightest thing in order to jump on a trend, just as he does with his music

The fans are seriously pushing Louis new song.

I do not think it is out yet?

R48 No, but they are filling up twitter reminding people .

Liam is in a twitter feud with Piers Morgan. Poor kid's not going to win this one.

Liam must be the most illiterate celebrity on Twitter. No punctuation at all in his rants.

Louis has a single out tomorrow. Should be fun watching it do really badly.

Yikes, R50. Piers will likely mop the floor with him. Boosts his name recognition though, I imagine. That song with Rita Ora got a good bit of play and was up for a Grammy, he is doing fine but never was the brightest bulb. Is he still managed by Simon?

R52, you are full of wrong info. The song with Rita was up for a fan voted Brit, not a Grammy. You know. the one you disparaged when Harry won it last year.

Liam has no ties to Simon. He is with Capitol which is a UMG label and his manager isn't affiliated with Sony either.

R52 A Grammy?

Liam was trying to support Kylie Jenner and of course, Piers was not having it !

Kim's sex tape led to the Kardashians having their reality show and to Kylie growing a huge social medial following, so she is hardly self made, but of course Lame Payne sympathises with her. He got rich off the talent of others too, off Harry and Zayn.

Now as a soloist his label will only allow him to collab with others for singles and his EP only sold 5k copies worldwide.

Was a Brit nomination Liam got for the song with Rita Ora.

I am Larry Shipper, a Larry believer if you will.

Louis' single came out today and he first sang it live on his youtube channel, something of a come down for a 1d guy. 54k people watched, a good indication of his fan numbers.

I think your time has come and gone, R57.

R59 I think you're right !

Wow, didn't Louis video to get over a million views.

Off to look, R61. What did you think?

Two of Us video

R62 I think it's fine. I'm hoping he wrote most of it since it's about his mom. The live version is actually more enjoyable than the official video. I got very tired of watching him write words.

What did you think?

His voice is strained and he's over reliant on his backing band for vocals but at least he doesn't look like a Valium dealer this time.

I thought the live version was ok.

He has really had a tough few years. If he wants to try solo music, I hope he can make a go of it.

R66 I'm guessing he can. He has rabid fans, that will make it happen. I'm shocked at how many twitter and instagram followers he has. And he's pretty PR savvy and that helps.

He has 32m twitter followers but only 54k turned up for his youtube live performance of Two of Us. That isn't enough for a high chart position or a tour.

Louis is at over 1.2 million views, not bad !

Twitter calls him Louis Ratlinson or Louis Floplinson. In his interview with Dan Wootton of The Sun, he said he fell out with Zayn after Zayn failed to turn up for his performance of his other PIty Me song on the X Factor in 2016. He really is squeezing every last drop of sympathy cash he can out of his mother's death.

He denied Larry Stylinson again in this video and talked about his love for his girlfriend and son.

It really is no surprise to see that Louis new flop single is taking a tumble down the charts. He pissed enough people off when he decided to run his mouth in the few interviews he did on radio for promo. He pissed the Harries by dragging Harry, Beliebers by shading Justin, Urban artists and black people by being a racist and a know it all, Larries by talking about his gf and son and his own rodents by spending time shading others than promotng his music more. It is funny to see him flop.

Louis had many on Black Twitter riled up last night because he said there was too much urban music on the radio. They still remember him saying the n word in 2014. He needs to be more careful.

I think Louis has had enough of this solo crap. In an interview the other day he said he would be the first one on the sign up sheet for the band to get back together. He's never really said that before, Niall has, but Louis has never mentioned it like that. He probably would be happier if he had never started the solo thing and just judged the Xfactor.

Louis has zero US promo lined up, not even on the radio. They seem to be marketing him at the domestic market only.

What if the group never gets back together though? I think he had to give it a try. It has gone ok.

R75 True, he is doing ok.

His mother died and he has all those young siblings, including preschooler twins, he/they have had a rough go of it.

This is his 4th solo single since 2016 and he again hasn't managed to crack the Hot 100 or the UK Top 40. Shame.

He has no responsibility for the 3 year old twins. they are cared for by their doctor father, a guy called Dan Deakin.

All the older siblings already have between 600k-3m instagram followers and earn plenty of money through that.

It is tragic that his siblings lost their mother but they are doing well regardless. The eldest Lottie has a successful make up business. The two youngest live with their father who is a surgeon and his new partner.

There were at least 2 more girls in between, no? I would imagine that having been gone for so long, and the mother dying so young, that family was a focus for Louis. Glad to hear the little ones are doing well, they were very young when she died and tiny when she became ill. I think I read she was hospitalized for a very long time, like a year? Very sad story.

He has had a few songs out, and the tv gig, plus all the personal stuff, so good on him. The songs were pleasant enough and it kept him in the game a bit.

Re: Liam, so much PR about him and Naomi. I thought he pinged and she beards but could be wrong. What thinks DL? Is it all breathless PR reports or is there video of them all over each other? If true, is a bit funny, thought the baby mama was an avowed racist who assaulted a black woman once? So from that to a black supermodel - eh, if real, get some, Liam!

Not sure it is not just PR, time will tell.

R80 I don't think Louis moms last husband was a surgeon.

I commented on whether or not Louis wants the work involved with a solo career. He got paid very well for the XFactor , probably near what he would make if he went on tour. And as others have noted, he has a large family he cares for. But, in his latest interviews he said he doesn't know if he will go back to Xfactor. Rumors suggest Simon is doing an overhaul of the show and no one wants any part of it.

R78 But he did manage to sell a half million of one and 1 million of another, just in the US. Good enough for me.

I'm sure the Azoffs had nothing to do with this.

Lmao Irving got the Rock Hall of Fame to kneel too! Is there anything he can't do for his faves Harry and Travis Scott?

We will see Harry inducted there one day.

The artist picks who they want to induct them. Interesting that both Stevie and Harry are clients of Irvs. Oh, don't let me forget little Jeffrey.

Harry and Stevie have been having a mutual love in for years. Harry has that magnetism that just draws people to him.

Louis' single Two of Us isn't predicted to chart on the Billboard 100 or the UK Top 40. The XF is over in 2020 so that won't be a long term option. He needs to invest wisely and start a family with his partner of six years, Eleanor Calder.

Eternal wigga Liam has been hanging round with B List black celebs for months now: Idris Elba, Naomi Campbell, and the editor of British Vogue, Edward Enninful. He seems to be hoping that his desperate sycophancy will land him a Vogue feature, but it hasn't happened so far.

Trust the frau Larrie on the thread, R81, to mention her fave words, PR and bearding. Liam has never remotely 'pinged' - please go back to Tumblr.

Fat Niall's latest single with Julia Michaels has flopped, predictably.

Wow,, Louis 18 years old sister passed away. So very sad.

Link?

Very very sad. She had lost about 60 pounds very quickly after years of being bigger so her death was possibly due to stimulant type drugs.

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I think the tox screens may indicate what caused a heart attack at 18. She has posted about addition and mental health issues and another person was present who may have cleaned the scene.

Sometimes things work out a certain way for a reason. Louis will be glad he was not touring and got to spend a lot of time with her.

Was she the one who had gone to boarding school? It is hard to keep track of which story goes with which girl, so many sibs.

Really tragic to die so young.

Louis has a rough few years. I hope things are better for him in the coming years.

Agree and for the rest of his many sibs who are so young.

People are also saying her heart attack was triggered by anorexia, which is a possibility.

Louis now has five siblings: the younger twins, Ernest and Doris, who live with their father; the 15 yr old twins who live with their grandparents, and the 20 yr old Lottie who is an IG influencer with 3m followers.

Fizzy was living alone in a central London flat Louis was renting for her. She was only 18 and too young for that set up, considering she'd been at boarding school from age 11-18.

Fizzy's boyfriend Luke gave an interview to the Mirror and said they 'battled the same demons', then talked about his own drug addiction..So sad, she was only 1.8.

The whole London instagram scene is fuelled by coke as they all try to keep thin for the Gram, then get addicted to pain pills after their surgeries.

So tragic..

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Rare huh??? Sorry, it's crap video

He does have nice legs.

R98 I think they mean rare pap pics because HS appears all the time in fan photos and videos. Liam is also papped quite a bit at events.

Poor Louis. The article in the UK tabloids about Felicite's boyfriend's IG post is very troubling. He says that her death 'could have happened to me or any one of our crowd of maniacs' which to me indicates it was drug related. He talks about his own battles with addiction in the same post.

I think 18 is a bit too young to be living alone in Earls Court, surrounded by clubs, bars and dealers. I wonder if their father has any say or if he just lets Louis give them all allowances.

The guy married to the mom is an osteopath, I think? He is the dad of the baby twins. The young twins, Fiz and Lottie have a different dad, and Louis was adopted by that guy. Wonder how much either guy had to do with parenting her or if she kinda fell between the cracks except when helping to raise the rest. My impression was that Lottie and her boyfriend really stepped up re: the toddlers when the mom was dying and just after. Now she seems to be living abroad? Fiz would have been what, 15 when her mother died, 14 when she got sick. Probably more or less raised herself. Very, very sad.

The boyfriend seems like a real prize.

Probably seemed safer than her living in Hackney or Camden. I always blew off my parents talking about bad crowds, having lived to adulthood, I see they had a point.

Hope they all get through this. Really worry about the youngest 4.

Lottie isn't with her boyfriend Tommy Napolitano anymore. They split about a year ago and she's dating a guy called Sam Prince from the reality show Made in Chelsea. She and Sam were on a vacation in Bali when Fizzy died (from her instagram). Lottie still lives in London.

The little twins live with their father and his new partner and the 14 yr olds with Jay's parents. They are already Instagram influencers with 600k followers each. Very concerning as self destructive behaviour patterns run in families and even Louis has written a song about drug taking, although he seems steady now. He will be leaning heavily on Eleanor, his partner of 6 years.

Which girl is/was in boarding school, R103?

Where is the 2nd husband? I would think he would be raising his kids?

Has the oldest sister gone into porn? Her insta is, erm, well, see for yourself

R104, Felicite was in boarding school until just last year. She seemed intelligent and I thought she'd go to university, but she came to London and really ramped up her Instagram. She dropped maybe 40 lbs and started working for the clothing line Revolve and doing other sponsorships.

I thought it was her who had gone away. Thought it was due to home seeming chaotic. So sad.

Who is the woman Lottie is photographed with constantly? Lottie looks pretty emaciated herself.

Lol R105. All the influencers pose in bikinis in exotic locations. Lottie has 3m followers so gets paid handsomely to advertise hotels, swimwear, clothing lines, watches, make up, weight loss shakes etc. They get at least 2k per post or a free hotel stay. She is pretty and really didn't need that lumpy lip filler.

The father of the four older sisters, Keith Tomlinson, needs to be stricter with the 14 year olds Phoebe and Daisy as they're already posing in scanty outfits and doing sponsored posts. He doesn't seem very effectual. I think the younger twins will be fine. They are being brought up out of the public eye by the doctor dad.

How can he be stricter if they do not even live with him?

When Fiz apologized for a gap in her insta, wonder if she had been in some type of rehab or in patient program, or perhaps was depressed?

What kind of career do influencers have as they age? It seems bizarre. The photos Lottie posts look like soft core porn. esp with the deliberate lez vibe.

Dan Wootton should do an exclusive: Inside the Dark World of the Instagram Influencers. Fizzy clearly had an eating disorder and was using probably cocaine to keep her weight down s that she looked cute and skinny and would get more sponsored posts. She might even have taken that deadly fat burning drug Clembutanyl (or similar spelling) which has killed plenty of people who wanted to lose weight quickly.

R110, it must be hard for their dad. They should be living with him not their grandparents ideally.

Can someone post a link where it states what Dan Deakin does for a living ? I thought I remember reading DataLounge years and years ago and everyone arguing about what his job was and it wasn't a doctor. Just curious.

Such a sad time for Louis.

The police were asking neighbors if they had heard crying. Wonder what the boyfriend said to her? Such an odd probably ill considered post.

Had no idea these products were killing so many. Some have used them to self harm. If he said something upsetting and she was distraught, it could still have been an accidental death. Wonder who was with her?

Dan, to my recollection was something like an osteopath. Definitely NOT a surgeon.

R115, I thought he was a nurse? I can't remember.

No, not in medicine. Jay was a midwife.

The stepfather is NOT a doctor, I think it was a joke in his twitter name. It even says something like I am not a real doctor. He works in finance according to this and Linkedin.

Former shop assistant and bank adviser Daniel met Elaine when they worked together at Virgin Media, and they married four years later.

Very sad situation re: Fizzy.

Dan saw rich Jay, who Louis gave millions to, and made his move. He was younger than her and cuter so she ditched the twins' dad and had another set of twins. Leukaemia is genetic so there could be more tragedies to come for the poor Tomlinsons.

Fizzy's death is definitely an OD situation. Wonder if Louis has the clout to cover it up and keep the tox report quiet. Probably not tbh as she was a public figure with over 1m followers on instagram.

People are speculating on Reddit that it was a heart attack brought on by Clenbuterol. It speeds up the heart to such an extent that the user goes into cardiac arrest. It's used to bring about fat loss in those who find it hard to lose weight through conventional means.

I haven't seen anyone talk about Clenbutanyl. Don't users overheat and sweat before they collapse? I'm sure it will all come out in the tox report which the UK tabloids will get hold of.

R100 You're right 18 seems a bit young to be living alone. But then I remembered Louis was on his own at 18 after joining the band. All they guys were quite young.

R122, Louis was 19 when he moved into a complex owned by the record label and all the other boys were on the same block. He had handlers monitoring him and was busy every day with 1d work. Very different from the erratic life of an influencer. She didn't work regularly and seemed to have fallen in with a wild crowd.

Below is her boyfriend Luke's IG post, now deleted. Evidence that her death was drug related.

Damn, that long Instagram post by Felicite's boyfriend at R123 is upsetting. He sounds manipulative: 'what I asked of you the next day will haunt me to the grave.' Louis must be furious as the post gives away that she was an addict. Heartbreaking.

The guy seems all round dodgy, like a Lil Peep or Pete Doherty figure. Here's his Instagram. I wouldn't want my 18 yr old sis hanging out with him.

For people who have the Spazz Troll blocked. This is Fizzy's boyfriend, a rapper and model well into his 20s. I agree that he does look bad news with a Lil Peep vibe. In his post at R123 he describes himself and Fiz as 'pain twins' who were 'never sober'.

Very, very sad.

R126 I thought everyone had the Spazz Troll blocked ? lol

My heart breaks for Louis and his family.

What do you guys think he could have meant by

what I asked of you

Had she been to rehab? Did he ask her to start using again? ??????

Do you have a link, R120?

R126 He's a model ??!

He is something

Like Lil Peep with an accident

Model

Such a weird, trashy, self important, self referential subculture.

Dude is 33, bit old for an 18 year old.

What do you guys think he asked her that he will take to his grave?

The drama would be funny but a young girl is dead.

Like Lil Peep with an ACCENT

autocorrect

R134 Hmm, what did he ask her ? "Hey can your brother help me with my music and can you get me famous? I'll just hang on your coattails and be a poser."

33 with an 18 year old. What a piece of shit.

R136, his 'tribute' to her is so disturbing. He makes them sound like battle scarred veterans who had done drugs together for years when Fizzy had only left boarding school the year before.

Wtf was a 33 year old doing having a 'relapse' alone with a teenager? Plus he was being interviewed on a radio station about his music the day after she died, what a heartless fucker.

Did he say something like...

Why dont you kill yourself?

People have, and are finally starting to go to jail for it.

He is trashing her for maximum clicks/publicity, it is absolutely disgusting. If the cops asked if neighbors heard crying, perhaps he had treated her as cruelly when alive as he did after death?

Lil Peep was a teen, as was Fiz, this waste of oxygen is headed toward middle age.

He is absolutely vile. A lot of the young girls in the 1d fandom seem to think he is only 21 or so and they're on his Insta leaving messages of sympathy for him.

One of F's last IGs says 'don't tell me you're writing songs about me, come see me' which was prob a reference to him neglecting her and might have been why she was crying?

Another young and very good looking 26 yr old London influencer from the same scene was found dead yesterday, a reality star called 'Muggy' Mike Thalassitos. Maybe there is a bad batch of pills or heroin out there.

Maybe so...

Too bad she was mixed up with trash almost twice her age.

The way Jay acted with Dan, calling him like Brad Pitt, etc, was probably embarrassing for her kids and set an example they seem to have followed to social media. Fiz wanted out of the chaos and asked to go to boarding school. It can be hard in such a big family with multiple divorces for kids to get enough stability and nurturing. Sad and way too short life.

The radio station interviewing him should be ashamed and called out. Fucking vultures allowing him to try to profit from her death.

That one seem to be a suicide. Sad.

I wonder why she wasn't living with Louis in his north London mansion or with Lottie (who was pictured snorting cocaine in a story sold to The Sun last year). Maybe she already had enough money of her own from IG work to afford a central London flat.

This Lukey guy is an ugly parasite type. I wonder if the favor he asked was related to asking for a loan or for Louis to give a shout out to his music?

Any media outlet that interviews him or gives him any kind of attention is shit. Hopefully someone will put a stop to it.

The piece of shit only has 46,000 instagram followers. Why would anyone want to interview him about music , or anything else ?

Because of his insta post about her death, apparently, R144.

He has an EP out and was being interviewed about it on some minor station. No doubt he was hoping Fizzy would advertise it to her 1.3m followers. Such a shady character.

Dude is closer to middle age than being a teenager. What a loser. Is he a dealer? Doubt modeling or rapping pays his bills.

The family has diminished his role in her life, claiming he was just a friend, but he has trashed her name regardless. Of course, if tox screens come back positive, it will not matter.

Really far for the youngest 4, esp with 2 already all over social media and the younger 2 being raised by someone with poor character who seems to be a fame whore. It is a lot of loss for kids to cope with. Very sad, RIP.

Ugh, really FEAR

Question for all of you. Would the average music fan know who Rob Stringer, CEO of Sony is ?

No, why, R149?

I do think the Spazz troll has gone on about him though.

R150 A fan posted a photo on twitter of Harry this weekend dining with Rob Stringer. Just wondering how many Harry fans would actually know who the guy is. They had it labeled with Rob's name. Just wondering if it was really a PR thing.

The Spazz troll always goes on about his Twitter blog and I am pretty sure the name was part of his talking point posts on earlier threads. That is where I knew it from, at least.

I am sure that Sony, who just spent/wasted a fortune on MJ music rights, hopes to make more $ on HS 2.0. Or maybe Rob just wanted to chat about where he got pretty pink manicure? I think your sense it was a PR thing posing as a fan post was probably on point.

No desire to hear Harry croak another note but I do hope RCA can get Z out on the road.

I cannot imagine Louis singing another song about his dead mom any time soon. Just tragic for his family. Glad he has money besides what was riding on this round. That is one pressure off at least.

The whole fandom does know who Rob Stringer the Sony CEO is and recognise him from the many pictures online. It's great that he considers Harry Styles important enough to have lunch with him in London, on their own in a famous Elizabethan Highgate pub called The Flask. Larries are angry because Rob is 'responsible for closeting Louis' and those mentally ill hoes think Harry should steer clear of him.

RCA signed spazzy Zayn up four years ago this July, so will no doubt be working out how to extricate themselves, given that he did ONE listening party as promo for his last album, which only sold a few thousand copies. He's also been promising to tour for a year now but nothing has materialised, not even a prerecorded TV show appearance.

Ah, the Spazz troll in all his sweeping, grandiose pronouncements about the fandom.

Blocked.

Above, I see that Tumblr autocorrected to Twitter.

The Spazz troll has often gone on about his Tumblr blog, so I imagine fans may have read his posts about Stringer there? Or here.

He often seems to be on this later Sunday shift.

Wtf are you going on about? Look on Twitter and they all know who Rob Stringer is, they don't need anybody's Tumblr blog to tell them. They see the names online and their photographs and they even stalk their profiles on Linked In. Nothing is secret from the fans these days.

Spazz shill, begone. You know to stick to your own thread. Off with you!

R152 I'm not sure what Zayn really wants to do. He's a very confused guy.

I hope Louis takes a long break from all of this. He really deserves it.

I truly enjoy Harry, well the old Harry. Up until his tour ended. What the hell his long range plan is has me baffled. Harry wants new fans but he needs to keep the old ones or he's screwed.

Harry

14 yr old Phoebe wrote a moving tribute, as did Daisy, but pedos must love their IGs with pictures like this one.

It is a shame Harry lost his looks so young.

I do not thing Z is confused, kinda set in his ways maybe? There is a disconnect between what he claims to want and what he does to get it. When there is a difference, behavior is much more telling.

Let's be honest. Zayn is lazy and it was a very bad idea for him to leave the band. He performed fine with them, without a group behind him, he's lost.

Any services planned for Louis sister ?

It's ironic that Z needed the band to perform but all of them were okay solo. Even Niall who doesn't have much of a voice managed a tour.

I hope they manage to keep the funeral private like they did Jay's.

Niall Hogran went from fit to dad bod in the space of four years.

He forgot to thank the fans who voted for him.

Thanks to the genius Simon Cowell for putting the group together from a bunch of rejected solo singers.

Zayn has returned to twitter.

Zayn is looking pretty desperate, tweeting out 'I love you' and 'I'm crying' to Gigi.

Is he doing promo for his new album?

R170 Well no. He tweeted "Sometimes I Cry"

Lol, another Lil Peep.

If Z did not have so much $ he might be more motivated?

Zayn is just flopping and doing nothing to rescue himself, it's really strange.

Any Louis sightings ?

The DM confirmed Dan is a businessman. The doctor thing was a joke. He just sold the house that he lived in with the mom, that is a LOT of change for those preschoolers. There were lots of photos on DM. There are books to help kids adjust to moving, never mind losing mommy, now an older sister who was a frequent carer. Fear for them. Very sad. Tox results should be out in a few weeks. I am guessing OD or heart issues caused by a supplement.

I cannot really imagine Louis coming forward now to sing/promo that song. Plus, given the timing and the timing of the first single, it starts to seem kinda schticky, unfair as that is. That family needs some better luck. So sad.

Niall was back in London and Harry is back there also. I hope they were together to support Louis as they did with his mom.

It was the older twins' 15th birthday today and Louis appeared on their Snapchat video, throwing up the V sign and drinking champagne, so he seems okay for now.

Are you a Larrie, R177? Harry and Louis haven't seen each other since 2016.

That would be nice. Liam supposedly flew out of the country on the birthday of his kid making it 2/2 years in a row so guess he was not around.

Yeah, Liam is getting a LOT of negative articles today for being in Dubai on his son's second birthday. It's a free concert for teachers and Liam isn't even headlining. He's third on the bill after Little Mix and Rita Ora. Harry can't relate.

R179 Lets hope at some point all three of the other guys supported Louis in some way.

So when is Louis doing a song about his sister?

R182 When someone writes it for him.

R183 Nice slice.

Still likes old Asian men.

A fan ?

Is Harry dating that 44 year old Japanese guy? They seem to be following each other round the world and sharing the same beige cardigan.

Louis was on the twins' igs looking happy at their birthday party. Glad he is making the best of things.

Two Of Us charted at 64 on the UK charts and didn't chart on the BB 100 but it is being streamed and ballads often don't do that well, unless Ed or Adele are singing them.

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R187 Your cardigan comment had me laughing all morning. But, sadly it's true. My question about that photo is, what fan would want that other dude in the picture? If that's a fan pic, I would make sure the old guy wasn't in it.

Harry didn't really lose his looks, he let them go. He's trying anything to be taken seriously and I guess looking like a homeless person is part of that??? That makes me sad.

I hope for the best for Louis family, they've been through a lot.

Zayn is back to posting selfies of himself.

Liam takes a lot of heat for dating much older women but Harry is constantly with old men and no one seems to notice? Odd. (Creepy old men)

He is trying for the Kurt vibe with the cover, sunglasses and cardigan. Uh, no.

Aren't they cute !

This shit is getting creepy.

The older guy has an interesting career.

Guess he fancies receding hairlines? Harry needs to fix that shit.

Matchy matchy, but he will beard with yet another VS model or Azoff client come promo time is my prediction.

So they do not even share the cardigan anymore? Is Azoff bereft or is his gfriend relieved? Shades of him 3rd wheeling with Ben Winston and wife. Our Harry, finally branching out. That the dude is twice his age is a given.

Seems like Mark Ronson might be better company?

Harry has a dad bod already.

He dresses like a grandpa.

R193 The old guy doesn't have an interesting career, he has no career. If someone can be lower than Z list, he is.

You're right, no more sharing the cardigan.

What is the purpose of the hands picture? They obviously took it themselves. Cuz who the hell else would want it ?

I volunteer to fuck this druggie ho to take his mind off his middling career.

I thought that was in response to Louis saying that Z promised to turn up with his mom died but did not, in an interview?

It was a shitty thing to do. Hope he apologized to Louis and did not just use victiimhood and SM for his own PR.

Daisy and Phoebe, the 15 yr old twins, look like models already and have 600k followers each.

Harry, in contrast, looks more and more scruffy and greasy with every picture. I assume he will scrub up okay for the Met Gala?

The Japanese dad type he seems to be dating is some kind of film director. Jeff never seems to be around these days, so maybe they have fallen out?

Worrying tweets from Zayn, saying 'sorry I'm a shit person'. Hope he isn't having a meltdown.

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Louis is so bitchy and demanding. Zayn barely ever flies long haul so why would he do that just because bossy Floplinson demanded it?

It's styling product in Harry's hair, not grease ffs. He still looks incredible.

Harry has the luxury of not giving two shits how he looks, and the others are at a point where it doesn't matter if they do care.

Sorry boys, your freshness has long since expired.

I thought that Louis' tragic recent loss would prompt the British public to pity purchase Two Of Us, but it didn't happen and the song went down from 64 to 69. It hasn't troubled the Hot 100.

Looks like Louis Walsh was right when he said that only Harry would have a long lasting solo career. He's inducting Stevie Nicks into the Rock Hall of Fame soon, with the whole ceremony televised on HBO. After that comes the Met Gala and then the HS2 era will be upon us.

The Sunday Times Rich List will be out soon and it will be interesting to see how much each one's personal wealth has gone up.

Harry's wealth went up by £10m last year, Niall's by £6m and Louis and Liam's by £2m only. Harry will probably make about £30m from 2018 at least.

Zayn's sophomore album did not sell well, and it could be the same story for Niall and Harry. People are losing interest in these guys.

Boy band fans don't really lose interest. The Jonas Brothers dropped a number 1 single, the Backstreet Boys had a grammy nomination (number 8, who knew) and they are going on a huge tour, and NKOTB are playing some pretty big venues this year. One Direction would do just fine. Separately, who knows.

There is a point that not being as successfully separately doesn't mean that they aren't successful. Hopefully they've had some sense with their money.

R207 You're right ! I would have retired after the band went on break.

They worked hard and earned a ton of money. They are all successful. I just don't know what the future will bring for them. And, each is taking a different path to stay in the business.

Louis' career is just about over and so is Zayn's. Liam and Niall will eke out a living for a bit longer and hopefully invest wisely. In ten years, only Harry will be left standing.

If Harry's property portfolio is anything to go by then he is the one who needs to learn how to invest. Hopefully his other investments have gone better.

Harry is worth £50m, £6m more than the next richest 1d boy, so I doubt he is bothered that his LA house isn't selling. He made £10m in the year 2017-18 and will make much more in 2018-2019, with the arena tour factored in. He broke merch sales records in 50 venues. We'll see when the Sunday Times Rich List is published in early May. He made £8m a year in 1d, so it was definitely the right decision to ditch the losers from 1d and go solo.

Liam is also finding it difficult to shift his LA mansion. Louis is keeping his so he has a base for visiting his son.

Harry strikes me as someone who is easily led. A fool and his money are soon parted.

Old man pants again.

Correction

Harry appears to be eminently sensible with money, investing in art and buying a London house in Hampstead where property prices are always rising, rather than further out like his bandmates.

It's odd that not a breath of real scandal has come near any of these 1d men, when compared to other stars of a similar age like Bieber and Chris Brown. They are all five squeaky clean. Sure, Zayn has drug rumors but no ODs or arrests. The other four are angelic.

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Most of the photos you've seen were taken by fans, R216. Liam has 28 sets of HQs for 2019 (most at events and parties), Niall has 20. Harry has about three.

Just saw the trailer for "After". I have to wonder if Harry is creeped out at all.

R218 He should be.

On a long ago thread, someone posted that Harry was becoming odd and eccentric like Michael Jackson. It was when he was newly under the sway of the Azoff clan. I thought it seemed dramatic, but I can totally see it now. Hopefully without the pervy aspect. He just does not seem like other young guys, he pretty much hangs around with old dudes, old enough to be his dad.

R220, YOU are the only Harry hater who compares him to that pedo junkie. You should be ashamed of yourself. He's had no surgery, no drug rumors (unlike your favourite, Zayn), and dates older women and guys, not little boys.

R220 I'm hoping he's moving away from the serious, mysterious musician image he's trying project. Or should I say, that his management wants him to project.

All the fan photos of him in very public places and he even face timed a fan last night. Go Harry! Break away from the evil people and get your personality back. We like to see those dimples.

I laughed when Stevie Nicks mentioned that Harry is her and Micks love child,,,um no Stevie, that would be grandchild.

Harry inducting Stevie Nicks into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame tonight.

Yes, plenty of articles about how eloquent Harry's speech was. He has shaken the boyband stigma and is loved by the music industry.

Any word on what happened to Felicite?

RRHOF

Harry is no longer attractive

Stevie is addled

Harry's teeth are yellowish and his hair does not suit him swept back from his giant forehead like that. As usual, his weird blue velvet suit was too big for him. Liam Payne sure has him beat in the tailored suit stakes.

Harry also refered to 70 year old Stevie Nicks as a 'lover'. Have they done the deed? 🤢

No news yet about Fizzy's tox report.

Given that she has no dick, think the chances of fucking are low. He is with the Asian guy old enough to be his dad, not some woman old enough to be his grandmother.

He lost his looks astonishingly fast, even for a Brit.

R229, he has fucked plenty of women, though. He is bisexual, not gay.

Whatever you say, R230.

Would be $ his cock has never been in Stevie Nicks.

The Asian guy old enough to be his dad seems to be a constant companion. Wonder if Jeff A is jealous or quite relieved?

What is all this trash talk about Harry losing his looks? He's barely altered since 2014. It's Niall who looks like ruined deli meat and Louis who has morphed into a 47 year old.

Louis Thuglinson

Hefty Niall with his alcoholic's complexion.

Liam Payne has gone full Kylie Jenner and doubled the size of his lips with lip filler.

R227 Pfft, Stevie's been around. She could make Harry cum himself into a coma, even if it meant pegging his ass until he cried and called her mommy.

R232 Harry's puffed out a bit, but he's certainly holding up better than the others.

Harry has a high forehead and would look better with hair partially disguising it. The gap between his nose and mouth is wide and his strugglestache just highlights it. A touch of lip filler in his upper lip would correct this. He definitely had some when he was younger. He's had some work on.his eye bags already.

Niall needs to stop drinking so much.

R229 I'm not so sure that he has lost his looks or just doesn't try anymore. Doesn't give a damn. I'm sure his wonderful management told he him he needs to be a serious artist and he is playing the part the best he can. And the result of that is looking like Bob Dylan (now).

And his induction speech was a bit cringe worthy.

" Whenever you hear her voice, life gets a little bit better. When she sings, the world is hers, and it is yours. She is everything you’ve ever wanted in a lady, in a lover, in a friend,” Styles said. "

That's damn creepy and just a publicity grab. Who in the hell would want that in their speech especially since Stevie is known to be kind of slutty?

Stevie wants it known that at 70 she is still a sexual being. Maybe she was tapped Styles, who knows. He has taken care of his looks. He's managed to eradicate all the spots he had when he was younger and the shadows and eye bags that plagued him as a teen. His skin looks flawless, eyes clear and a great colour. His hair is glossy, thick and well cut so what has he 'let go'?

Maybe R239 could explain in more detail just how he has destroyed his looks? Niall and Louis definitely did a good job of that and look in their 40s already.

Niall put on 40 pounds, Louis looks like a homeless person, Zayn like a Souncloud rapper but it's Harry who has 'let himself go', despite being the same weight he was in 2015 with a better haircut and clearer skin?

Niall's fat, greasy face.

Harry's current hairstyle doesn't suit him at all. Makes him look like the creepy Jonathan from Stranger Things

Niall morphing into a lardtard was so unexpected. We thought his famously fast metabolism would go on forever.

R243 I'm guessing he is growing out to shoulder length again. You know, like a real rock star. But, his in between phase isn't good.

Oh, we must not forget the best part. Stevie mistakenly identifying Harry a member of N'Sync.

That was deliberate, as a way to show the other One Direction guys how irrelevant they all are. Nicely planned.

Yes, Harry is the new Timberfuck.

Harry has insane industry push. They always select a few people to promote aggressively. I also think his future rests a lot on how the second album performs. Columbia didn't make as much as it had hoped to through album sales for the 1st one. Expect a bigger push for the second one. It has started already with sudden insurgence of more and more tabloid columns about him, the Stevie nicks thing and the upcoming MET. I expect a new girlfriend rumour as MET gala approaches ;)

Also the Jeff Bhasker interview made me laugh. I mean if you are going to lie about being an "artist" atleast cover your tracks so people don't blatantly expose you - especially your producer!

His issue is not hair length it is his hairline.

His face is no longer all that attractive, he has potato face.

The odd and unattractive Gucci clothes, including the leather slippers and yellow loafers are hideous. Their price tags do not make up for it.

His oversized grandpa pants over his flat ass make him look like the old geezers that he prefers to socialize with. Doubt their demo will be buying his album or concert tix.

Niall is the one with a lumpy red potato face. Harry face is angular with a sharp jawline and high cheekbones.

R250, he already was an artist who'd fronted the most successful boyband of all time for 5 years. We've seen the other 4 guys try and fail to sustain a solo career. Harry is the only one with longevity who is respected in the industry.

He was lead vocals on dozens of 1d tracks so why would he need a demo? He played The White Stripes to signify the kind of direction he wanted his sound to go in.

R250 That article made me sad. Harry wants to be taken seriously but his solo career was put together almost like One Direction was put together, but without the XFactor. Someone else put a band together, and others were thrown in to help him write songs etc. Everything was done for him. All manufactured.

R251 He seems to have lost his looks since his tour ended last year. He looked good right after Dunkirk. He looked good in his video and he looked good while he was on tour. Something happened,,,quickly.

That picture of Jeff Bhasker scares the shit out of me. Creepy

[R253] Just like [R254] said - his management made it seem like he is this genius artist who was being held back by 1D and Simon Cowell and is on his own now doing his thing. Cut to bhasker's interview and you realize - he is still as manufactured as he was, the only thing that changed is marketing strategy. Also artists tend to have their own demos to show their ideas and the direction they want to take. Harry probably wanted to sound like the white stripes or bowie but had no idea how to go about it and it was ultimately all handed to him. Does anyone else feel like Jeff Bhasker was not supposed to say these things? Why did he? He made money anyway right.

[R254] The first time I heard his album I was very surprised at how much better it was than what 1D used to put out. He actually had me convinced that they were holding him back until I saw some of his interviews - the guy couldn't even explain the meaning of his own songs! Jeff Bhasker's interview was kind of the final nail in the coffin.

R256 I seriously think that's still a throwback from the 1D days. Never really admitting what songs are about so you don't upset the fans. And sometimes they aren't about anything, just words that go together. Some of the songs probably don't have any real meaning to Harry since 7 people wrote the darn things.

Do not try to blame Jeff, who was merely a hired hand, for the product that is Frankenpopsinger being what it is. Credit for that goes to Cowell, Azzoff, SONY and the patsy himself, our own limp Harold.

Implying you are the cough, lover, of an aging poptart, older than your nan, for a bit of pr and misdirection re: the asian old enough to be your dad dude you swan around with, is cringeworthy.

He has not gained a lot of weight, but yet his looks are so different. He looks more and more like all slack middle aged folks he surrounds himself with. Unless the same little girl stans are buying Gucci menswear, I cannot imagine their sales have gotten any higher. No one takes Harro seriously, he is a limp puppet.

Imagine Harry on the Pyramid Stage at Glasto and try not to disturb the neighbors with your gales of laughter.

So much bitterness here from fans of the other boys. Harry wrote all the HS1 lyrics. The other guys were in the room to compose and produce the song, they didn't contribute their own narratives ffs. That's something the tinhats used to say to explain away female pronouns. The lyrics /stories in the songs are all H, and some are cliched like 'devil between the sheets'.

R259, he's already played MSG and sold it out so could easily play Glastonbury as well. Sad that you are a Larrie who believes Harry is gay when it's clear he mainly fucks female models and pretends to be bi because he saw Jagger and Bowie doing it and thinks it's cool. You also think Louis Tomlinson is gay and have spent seven years on here, posting like a demented person about Larry.

R259, Gucci is the number one luxury brand and they credit the Harry campaigns with increasing sales amongst the 18-30 demographic.

You have been on here saying Harry is balding and losing his looks for years. Don't pretend you thought he looked okay in 2018 and 2017, because you were dragging him then too.

So sad when fans' celebrity obsessions don't do what they want. We do love to elevate them and then spike them viciously into the ground when they "fail" us.

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R264, we established that about the stepfather about 200 posts ago.

Harry needs a good lead single for HS2, something rocky but still very popular, like Youngblood by 5sos, which was one of the best selling songs of last year.

Louis' career is over.

I can't work out why Harry looks different. He often has an insufferably smug expression but his face seems fuller and his eyebrows are arched when they used to be straight. Maybe a brow lift or Botox?

LIam Payne seems to be of great interest to the tabloids at the moment. So many headlines about his personal life.

NIALL HOGRAN TODAY. WIDE LOAD COMING THROUGH.

Ah, R267, interesting. But he is e awfully young for those types of procedures. He does look quite different though. Harry used to be appealing, but your are right, he now has a very punchable face. Perhaps fillers of some sort? Or a small weight gain all in his face? Bloat from drinking could do it, but would not explain the brows. He could have gained elsewhere, with the grandpa pants it is hard to tell. Asian dude is quite slim.

The PR romance Liam is supposedly having with Naomi Campbell is curious. Why would she want to raise her profile with younger people right now?

R269 Probably because she's old. I'm sure it's hard to be 48 and watch the world go by. I mean, this is the bitch who throws phones at people for publicity.

She still looks good though.

She has dated Russian oligarchs. Now, no offense, Liam?

.................

She has an interesting dating life, that's for sure. Well, if Harry can pretend to date a 71 year old, Liam can pretend to date a 48 year old . Go get 'em guys.

He looked darn good in 2017 around Dunkirk time.

Welp, Liam has millions too, and he is way better looking than some of what Naomi has kept company with in the past.

Wonder if she was bearding for some of those guys, rumors about a few of them.

She is still stunning. Hope she is never around his tot, given her notorious temper.

Some of the stunty details read more as PR than fucking but time will tell.

He looked great in 2018 on tour...

Big NOPE, R276. Are you a 13 year old girl?

Even in R274 his brows look quite different. His nose looks like it grew a bit and seems out of proportion with his face in that snap.

He looks better there than nowadays but he peaked around 19 looks wise. Hope he saved his money. His real estate has not done well. Just do not see him having any kind of breakout career. It is almost all Azzoff puffery. Irv will not live forever and Jeff is not his father. Harry is a puppet and he could not seem more manufactured or market tested.

If Z can do at least a few festivals he may turn things around. He is seen as cool by same age peers and those in the music industry. Even Stevie can only spout the same canned script about hairloss Harold. Surely he has the $ to do something about his hairline? He is a cross between Liberace and a slob. Such a shame, at one time he was hot. He had an ok voice.

No R277, I' not a 13 year old girl. But I am guessing you get turned by 17 year old boys.

R279 has poor taste and reading comprehension issues.

'Just do not see him having any kind of breakout career.'

Harry has already had a very successful breakout career, for two years. Last year his wealth grew by $10m, more than he earned per year in 1d.

Zayn won't do festivals, the big crowds would terrify him. His last album's very poor sales showed that there's no much interest in him.

I wouldn't write Zayn off yet. His album has really good streaming numbers - both MOM and Icarus falls - and he is the most talented out of all 1D boys. Everybody loves a good comeback story. He needs to go to rehab though asap!

[R265] is correct - H needs a HUGE first single and an album better than the first one otherwise say hello to sophomore slump! I think he will release soon after MET.

Btw there is a clip of Harry taking Stevie's award from her at hall of fame and showing it off for pictures while Stevie stands besides him confused LMAO. It is quite funny! :D

[R282] Harry made a lot of money touring but his label erskine- of which he is the sole owner- has been losing money. It lost over £800,000 in 2017-2018. I don't even know how! Because that was the year of his album release and the label should have gained money. I don't know about this year(2018-19)

Eeks I have been posting a lot but I have to ask - Is anyone else surprised and even a bit happy at how well niall is doing? People were writing him off as soon as the band split but his album did really well,the singles leading up to it charted,he has established his own sound and while his tour made 20 mil, he travelled in a bus and had less expensive production so the net profit must be huge!! Although his latest single with Julia Michaels didn't do well,I am actually rooting for him atm. The guy is a hustler!! Good for him.

Niall had 200k unsold tickets and was playing to venues which were at 28% and 33% capacity in the US. Harry sold out his entire US leg, despite playing 20k arenas. He sold out MSG, the LA Forum and the O2 Arena in London for two nights each and grossed $62m. His tour was also simple in terms of the set and he broke merch records in 50 venues, so his profits will be astronomical.

Harry gets three times as many likes on his tweets than Niall does and Niall's Twitter engagement has gone down by a third since Flicker was released, so NH2 won't sell as well.

Niall has also failed to garner critical acclaim. His album only had five reviews which qualified for Metacritic and two of those were 2* reviews. Harry has over 20 reviews there and received dozens of rave reviews of his tour, whilst the few journos who wrote about Niall said he sounded bland and derivative.

Niall and Harry have fandoms of young women who originally stanned because they found these guys attractive. Excessive alcohol and junk food (which he freely admits to) have altered Niall's appearance beyond recognition, and a lot of his fans who bought Flicker in 2017 have moved and now stan the handsome 20 yr old Shawn Mendes.

[R285] While I would love to think people are not that shallow,you are probably right about the stanning Shawn mendes point.Shawn has taken over a large part of 1D fandom. He is younger and has a lot of industry push atm. His high profile friendships help too.

What really gets me though is there are people -far more talented than any of these guys- who don't get half the attention. They could use some stanning.

Shawn seems sweet and genuine and like he loves his job but he is PAINFULLY MEDIOCRE :|

Do you people think a new musician(?) now would become as popular as the likes of gaga, Rihanna, JT etc ?

[R285] The venues Niall played were cheap to book. In smaller venues with medium production budget you need to fill a third to break even, in concerts like gaga and Taylor 's about 60-70% to break even. So he didnt play at a loss in US and he did really well in europe. Also he is doing better than what was expected of him.

Harry was treated like the STAR of 1D while niall was the underdog. For him to do as well as he is doing is a great thing. This is what makes me root for him even more.

Harry is underperforming. Seriously. He should be doing a lot better than Shawn considering the push he has always had but he isn't.

Shawn's music is pure pop so sells much better. He's had some really good singles. Harry is refusing to make chart friendly records in his bid to be taken seriously but HS1 still sold 1.7m and he had no trouble selling out big places. Niall's 20k amphitheatres will have been costly to book; he should have stuck to venues of under 10k capacity.

Harry's looks haven't altered much so he still has all the 1d fangirls whereas Niall has aged differently and looks heavier and older, much fatter in the face.

BTS is another band which has taken a lot of 1d's fans. The Korean boys have no problem maintaining a skinny build.

Shadow Mendes copies Harry. Waving flags, having flowers on his album, naming his tour after himself, wearing Harry type suits.

Also happy for Niall and have my fingers crossed for Z.

Harry is a disappointment, really did not expect that. He seems both overly packaged and pushed and quite disinterested and smarmy. Also like an old man in the body of a socially inept young guy. The album was limp. Hops he he or someone has better instincts on the next one.

Re: his appearing to lose $, does anyone know how many of his tickets sold at full value? The fees for the Azzoffs alone must be steep, Jeff was literally his 24/7 minder for YEARS. All the pr for the album was not cheap, was that all Sony or did he kick in? Do they still have to pay off Cowell?

Still trying to suss out what he has done to his face. Could he have had a lift at the hairline that impacted his brows? Why would he get fillers at his age? He just looks different, without a significant weight change. His nose looks longer but that was probably just finishing growing.

Harry hasn't 'lost $', delusional R290. You seem to be living in an alternative universe where junkie Zayn and dough boy Niall are making more money than Harry.

The majority of Harry's tickets sold at full price. Some were resold more cheaply, as with most concerts. Jeff Azoff will take the usual 10%. Cowell's contract with the band ended in 2015 so why the fuck would H still be paying him? Your Larrie really is showing, making comments like that.

Harry's personal wealth increased by £10m last year to £50m, without the massive arena tour factored in, so this year it will probably increase by over £20m, considering the tour grossed $62m. Niall's tour was supposed to make similar numbers but ppl failed to turn out and he only grossed $20m, most of which will go on costs.

As for Zayn, he seems to be in retirement. The sales and streams for IF are very disappointing. He is worth $35m and has barely made any money since 2016. Let's hope he invests wisely. RCA will probably drop him in July when his contract is up.

If Harry had this kind of surgery, it would explain how different his brows are now. His hairline is still pretty jacked though. Guess it could have progressed regardless.

R290, Harry's 80m record deal obviously had a big budget for advertising but he didn't really have any extravagant, costly PR ? He had TV performances but they don't cost money. The musical guest doesn't pay for their slot.

Are you one of those antisemites who think the Azoff family bribe the world's press to write complimentary articles about Harry? If so, check your prejudice, bitch. The media adore solo Harry. Every time he attends an event he gets an article in Vogue, GQ, NME, Rolling Stone, Esquire, the UK broadsheets.

The fashion press have always been obsessed with Harry and Zayn, so the articles about his RRHOF appearance are no surprise.

I know Niall was signed by a top model agency - any recent campaigns? He has striking big blue eyes and a cute face.

I hope Harry goes in a more 80s/indie direction for his soph album. The MOR 70s rock stuff was deadly dull. Sign of the Times I liked but Carolina and Only Angel were incredibly old fashioned and irritating with the girls' voices harmonizing and all the whoops and yells. His 2018 coming out song Medicine is a step in the right direction.

Matty Healey of the 1975 offered to produce some tracks for HS2 but Harry turned them down in favor of Jeff Bhasker yet again, a big mistake. The 1975 actually sound like 2019 with some captivating, catchy songs and so much critical acclaim, whereas Harry's album drones on like the actual year 1975.

More on hairline lowering surgery. It could impact the appearance of the brows. Hmmm. If he did it after Dunkirk it would explain the change in his appearance.

For all the outrage here about Bhasker and his comments, Harry must not have minded much if he continues to work with him.

I really do not see Harry breaking out of the teeny bopper niche. He kind of missed his moment.

Harry's hairline has been the same since 2013. For Dunkirk, they filled it in with fake oil to make him look younger. He is pictured with fans every few days and never has the telltale forehead scabs, so it's clear no operation has taken place.

The majority of HS fans are ex Larries, most of whom are 30 plus. Middle aged fraus were everywhere at his concerts. The actual teens have moved on to Shawn or the KPop bands.

Zayn had a major three tweet meltdown on Twitter last night, telling his fans/Gigi to go 'fuck yourselves'. The perils of not having a manager. RCA must be at their wit's end with him.

[R297] I just saw that. Is it true his contract with RCA ends in July? Will they drop him?

I really hope he gets it together.

This thread is so dead rn :|

[R296] His Dunkirk press tour was weird. He barely interacted with any of his castmates and one of his castmates even said - this is an ensemble movie not a Harry styles movie when press was only hyping Harry up. H only spoke to Nolan.

And yeah something definitely happened to his nose. I don't know what but it is a lot wider.

Harry styles' fans are accusing Shawn mendes of copying Harry because Shawn waved pride flag at one of his concerts and Harry does that too! Hahaha...What is wrong with people?

Zayn had another even more epic Twitter meltdown about an hour ago. 5 tweets telling someone to fuck off and also saying yet again how amazing Gigi is. He's probably all revved up on crack or meth.

Harry did interact with his Dunkirk castmates, remember that interview where he flirted with Fionn Whitehead and Fionn got pissed off and said 'why are you always like this in interviews, Harry'?

Shawn Mendes is known in the 1d fandom as Shadow Mendes for copying Harry. He made an obnoxious video saying he was straight a couple of years ago, whereas Harry said he was bi in the song Medicine.

[R301] Zayn is going to be a part of 27 club if he doesn't get help! A lot of people actually think it's all anxiety. They don't suspect drugs at all. Typical fraus!

I didn't. I watched some American interviews of the cast and fionn looked like he was so over it because Harry would take an hour to answer a simple question with 100s of ums and ehs inbetween. He was quite slow, i thought he would be used to interviews but no. H also didn't seem to interact with Tom or anybody else.

Shawn mendes made a video?! What? I had no idea. But calling him a copycat for waving pride flag is ridiculous :D

So many days and just 300 comments. Is Datalounge over 1D boys?

I am going to find shawn's video and watch it. It's weird for anyone to make such a video let alone an international pop Star.

Yes, maybe Shawn protests too much and is actually now bi. He was 18 when he made the video.

I agree that Zayn unfortunately does seem an increasingly likely candidate for the 27 Club. His fan fraus naively think he only smokes weed, but even that can cause psychosis and he is probably on every drug going.

New pics of Harry jogging in London, wearing lipstick and red and black nail polish.

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I hope Louis' vocal stamina has improved since the last (and only) time he played a short set at Key 103, when he was out of breath after two songs and his band sang louder than he did.

Niall was begging for an invite to the Met Gala on Instagram today, tagging his modelling agency boss in the hope of snagging a ticket. I doubt Harry wants any of his old bandmates there, making the UK headlines all about a 1d reunion.

[R306] Niall might as well go,it will increase his profile in the US. That is what parties like met gala are for.

Louis is doing himself no favours by 40 a day. Adele used to smoke furiously too and actually had to give it up because her vocal range decreased by many notes. She is back to normal(ish) now. He needs to give up smoking,hire a vocal coach and get some good songwriters and producers with him in the studio. He has enough money to pay them to work with him.

Btw is there a thread about adele's upcoming music ? She is releasing this year.

The Met Gala is only a month away and I'm pretty sure invites were issed long ago, so it's unlikely Niall will be going. It'll be interesting to see how camp Harry goes.

Harry looks ridiculous with the multi-color nail polish

A lot of Harry's fans are either naive or plain stupid! They are STILL talking on Twitter about how he changed the game by releasing his 1st album and is already an icon so he was the best person to induct Stevie in HOF. At first I thought it was a sarcastic tweet until i realized it wasnt.

[R308] Does he endorse any brand?niall? Because that's how a lot of people get invited when their brands buy tables.

[R309] I think what's sad is that was a news in the first place :D

Niall did an ad for Bose in early 2018 but no fashion campaigns. He signed with Wilhelmina in 2017 but hasn't worked much for them, because the majority of fashion brands want tall, slim but muscular guys like Harry and Liam.

Z is not tall and gets fashion work, R311.

Is Liam actually tall?

Is Harry even 6 feet?

Any endorsement work any of them get is due to celebrity, no?

Gucci would never have chosen H for their campaign if he looked anything like Niall, or had a generic look like Liam. Gucci wanted the style icon with the big green eyes, the long legs, the thick curly dark hair and the glass cut jawline.

Zayn gets less prestigious brands like Penshoppe (who?) and Kooples.

Welp, they got someone who looks slovenly and dresses like grandpa at the early buffet. But, their clothes are ugly. He looked much better in SL.

Z would get better deals if he went to rehab and re-started his career. Has anyone sussed out what he was ranting about if it was not GH? Surely it was not Louis, with the recently deceased sister? Any word on her tox screens btw?

Liam seems to be doing just fine

Liam only made 2m last year. Harry made 10m.

Crazy R314 talking about Harry and Louis on a 1d thread in 2015. She pretends Harry's looks have only just changed, but this says otherwise:

Striking that all but Niall look older than they are. Other 3 have real widows peaks, although generally look better when hair and clothes not done by "team." After album promo, done, hopefully Harry can have some fun and stop the slide toward Michael Jacksonish image. Louis needs to clear up babygate one way or another. They are supposed to be on Ellen, doesn't she do gifts for expecting parents? Could be awkward.

[R311] Niall is good looking but fashion brands these days hire celebrities - the kind who generate headlines like cara,Kendall,Harry etc - which lets be honest niall doesn't. Nobody cares about unique look anymore. It's not the age of paulina porizkova !!

Now who is the person who thinks Harry styles doesn't look generic? All the 1D boys - even though they are all good looking - SCREAM GENERIC except Zayn.

Why do some people compare how much money they make? They are all filthy rich! I have noticed when they broke up Harry fans were poised for him to be the next big thing like bieber or ed. Then he underperformed severely and now they compare him to other 1D boys - whom they dismissed earlier - to make themselves feel good. You know what Harry did okay,some people just had big expectations. Get over it.

Strip that Down still gets played on the radio in my large city.

Liam and Niall are richer than anyone posting on these threads is likely to ever be, but if slagging them off makes your dick feel bigger, have at it.

Z never has to work again if he does not want to. Bet that kills some of you.

Zayn doesn't want to work again and that is killing you, R319. He will never step on a stage and sing ever again. His career is over but #StreamIcarusFalls

So I didn't know this earlier but did Harry and his manager gift a lot of grammy members Gucci bags along with a behind the scenes CD of the making of his album ?

I have only heard this so asking to confirm.

R321 Very interesting.

R319 I still hear Slow Hands played a lot on the radio and Pillow Talk and Strip that Down a bit less. I never hear Sign of The Times anymore, and I think that's unusual. Thought I would hear it more.

Harry had one chance to establish himself as a solo artist and he blew it. His album underperformed expectations and he didn't get any big hits from it. His debut era came and went in an instant. No buzz and no longevity. He won't get a second chance in the US.

I thought Harry would do better. Niall has surprised me positively.

Interesting that Harry has 33% more Twitter engagement (likes) now than he had when HS1 was announced, and tragic Niall has 33% less.

Harry's recent tweet about SOTT has received 470k likes already, EIGHT times as many as Niall's announcement of his Flicker Orchestral album, which only got 65k. Niall also had over 200k unsold tickets for the US leg of his tour and was ridiculed by reviewers for being yawn inducing and derivative. Harry sold all his US tickets because he is so popular there.

That fake OTT Irish accent Niall puts on these days is horrible, like a horse neighing.

America cannot wait for HS2. Harry has so many new fans who didn't even like One Direction.

America can't wait for HS2? That's a pretty big exaggeration. Harry has bored a lot of people into not caring. His album wasn't good--that was his first mistake, and his biggest.

Yep. It sucked.

R327 The public is still giving Zayn chance after chance, they will probably give Harry a few more also.

Yeah, they'll give him a few more chances. Harry really needs to work on things though. He's boring as fuck, and a drag in interviews. He comes across as so dumb and with nothing to say. Needs better music as well. For album two, he's working with the same people he worked with on album one, so not promising on the music front. He walks around looking smelly and homeless. It's like he's not fully invested in his career, and just doing music because it's a lucrative. It doesn't seem like music is his passion, and it shows.

As for Zayn, I don't even know what he needs to do, but I never liked him, so I don't even care.

R330 He needs leave behind the "I'm a serious artist" persona.

[quote]. Harry sold all his US tickets because he is so popular there.

Because he played smaller venues. It's easy to sell out when you play halls with a 1200 capacity.

Harry seems completely manufactured, as much or more so, if that is possible, than a Cowell group. It is not appealing. Plus, the music was not good. He also comes across as smug/smarmy and as like an old dude in the body of a young guy. It was a huge disappointment.

I still listen to Z, his first music was good, it is just his lack of performing that is a bummer.

R331 True. He's not a very good singwriter, just learned how to barely play an instrument, and relies heavily on others for help with writing, producing, concepts, etc. Anyone (except his stans) can see that he's no serious artist, so he needs to drop that act right now. The silly suits and posh act is so unrelatable. His whole persona is just weird, and not in a good way.

Agree.

He's wasting a lot of his youth and that's sad. The mysterious act is creepy.

It is weird and fake.

I do not see Harry expanding his audience beyond young girls. I think that ship has sailed.

He likes to socialize with people old enough to be his parents. When he was first in 1D and socializing with and travelling with the others, he seemed the most age appropriate. Now, he just seems freaky and very uncool.

I wonder who the real Harry is?

'Because he played smaller venues. It's easy to sell out when you play halls with a 1200 capacity.'

R332, I don't like smug, bratty Harry, but it's common knowledge that he played all arenas in the US and sold out. He sold out Madison Square Gardens and the LA forum two nights running each. Clearly he has held on to the screechy 1d stans.

Niall was never as popular but he is still making a great go of a solo career and seems very popular with his peers.

Zayn is worrying. He'll be 27 in February and his current behaviour seems a bit chaotic.

R338 He's too afraid to show the real Harry. He seems like the type who needs everyone to like him. He never wants to offend, so instead of showing his true personality, he hides and says nothing. He's too obsessed with being overly nice, and it's so damn boring!

R332 is a crazed liar. Styles played 20k arenas on the US leg of his tour and sold every single seat. Meanwhile, Niall booked himself into 20k venues and ended up with boxscores of just 7k, 6k.

Zayn and Louis' careers are over and Liam is no closer to releasing an album. Niall is going to need that alternative career as a golf manager!

Mission accomplished.

I thought niall had a sports gear company not that he was a golf manager.

I think Liam has so much talent but he keeps trying to be a rapper and it's embarrassing. Also a baby with Cheryl?! What was he thinking?! Anyway he needs to drop the rapper act, get into a studio and make an ep with atleast 2 amazing singles so he can gain some momentum back.

Louis should really think of other things in case his solo career doesn't work out. I want him to do Well but 40 a day, release of some very forgettable music and bad attitude has held his career back and will likely do. I also think his army of siblings are too dependent on him now that his mom passed away - for money and support and thats gonna drain anybody! He financially supports all 4 of them and maybe the step dad too!!Just bad luck all in all.

Liam has dropped the rapper act. But he is struggling to get himself out of the hole he dug.

Zayn is not going to tour. Ever. He also doesn't do prerecorded performances on late night shows! Only thing keeping him in news is his gigi drama and even that is losing any element of surprise since they have it every year now.

Harry is being ruined by his management and he isn't particularly smart to see that. He only had one moderately hit single which was soon dropped by the radio in 2017 summer! HS2 won't have the hype of HS1.

Now,does anyone know about the whole Gucci bags thing?

R343 Niall has a golf management company.

I think Niall will have the longest lasting solo career. He's going about it the right way.

R345 Haven't heard a word about it.

Niall's fanbase, never that big, is shrinking rapidly as his fans move over to Shawn, who is young and hot. Niall isn't helping matters by lumbering around looking flabby and red faced.

Niall has done well. He may want to raise his profile a bit because those things help more people check out your work. I hope NH2 is an amazing album and helps him expand his fan base.

[R348] Shawn is a high profile person, i wouldn't be surprised if fans are abandoning ships that's why I said niall needs to raise his profile. Maybe one or two high profile collabs.At one point I thought a collab with hailee was inevitable but now not so much.

Critics panned Flicker for being bland and soporific.

R350 Shawn and Niall have different fans. Niall's fans aren't abandoning him. And, he has done a few collabs and broadened his profile. One with grammy winner Maren Morris, one with Julia Michaels and also wrote a song for a movie.

[R351] Well some critics(RS) also placed Harry's SOTT #1 on their year end list so I wouldn't worry much about their opinion ;)

[R352] Both of them have fans in the same demographic. By high profile collab I mean with bigger artists. Let me give you an example - I live in India and when Zayn collabed with Taylor we all heard about it and checked out the song plus some of my friends checked zayn's solo work out for the first time. Same when troye collabed with Ariana - even though it wasn't that big a hit, it still made the news. So what I mean is collabs that make a splash outside of western countries.

Niall talked a recent IG live about wanting to.collab with Taylor and with Ed, and tagged them. But Niall really isn't playing in the big leagues anymore so I doubt a collab with a major star will happen. Troye's album got numerous 5* reviews and sold/charted much better than Flicker. He's playing arenas already.

It sounds like Liam is putting his plans for an album on hold.

From the Daily Star:

"Everyday we are struggling to find a place a lot in the new world in the internet.

"Is there a place for an album? I don't really know."

The former X Factor star continued: "I have had this conversation with so many people.

"I don't know where I am at with it yet

"I am having a good time doing what I am doing and I like releasing different singles and touching on different subjects and sounds.

Liam's EP only sold a few thousand copies so I don't think the world wants an EP from him. Odd that of the five, only two managed the holy grail of album and world tour.

*wants an album

Harry Styles fans were expecting him to be on the cover of May's Vogue but it's Kim Kartrashian instead.

Liam is doing well. He's focusing on the UK and has had several top 20 singles there.

Liam likes to perform so it might be good to do an album and a small tour. I think he would do fine. Just not hip hop/rap crap.

Good looking guy.

Aside from Zayn who has a very good shot at joining the 27 club, none of these guys care what people think of their post 1D careers.

They are each worth millions and can afford to take the risk in pursuing their interests.

They are still young and the kind of lifestyle they lead will swallow up even 30m quickly. Zayn maintains three properties and has made no money since 2016, despite his modelling.

[R358] Harry's fans believed he would be the first male to have a solo US Vogue cover because he is hosting MET and according to them he is a fashion icon (I am not kidding,seriously!)

As far as Liam is concerned - he is not doing fine imo. He sold like 5k copies in first week which is abysmal. There was no Quavo or Rita Ora with him this time and he did this! He needs to get it together and he should start playing small venues(1k capacity or less) and festivals in UK instead of playing random hotels in bali or dubai!

Dubai pays really well though.

Agree about playing festivals.

[R362] makes a good point. The guys have very lavish lifestyles and since none of them were rich before 1D - they have their families to support too! And probably a few cousins( you know how free loaders are). I think all of them support their families except niall - whose parents apparently refused a new house and car.

Harry's not supporting his family. I'm sure he gifts his mom and sister money, but he never had to buy his family a house because they didn't need one. His sister has a degree and works.

Zayn did buy his family a house and sends them money so his mum doesn't have to work (she worked in a school refectory before 1d). Louis definitey supports his 15 yr old sisters and pays their private school fees.

I think the majority of their expemses will be maintainimg their mansions/staff/air fares etc, and they all seem to still pay 40% tax.

R361, agree that Liam isn't doing that well. The performance in a school was an unexpected low and the one in the big shopping mall in Dubai...oh, and the racecourse.

He and Louis should have released albums in 2017,, before the mass exodus of 1d fans to BTS and Shawn Mendes. They could then have done small tours to.support that.

R368, 1d fans are too old for BTS and their crappy music. Shawn Mendes hasn't stolen anyone's fans judging by his chart numbers.

Shawn's first three albums were all number one on the BB charts, but he has only just made an impact in the UK, and has stolen a lot of the UK 1d fans in the past 18 months or so.

Liam, Harry and Zayn still look cute and boyish, but the same cannot be said for Niall and Louis. Louis has lost a heap of fans and loses more every time he talks about his son and girlfriend. The fans couldn't get his last single Two of Us onto the Billboard 100 or the UK Top 50.

Louis' voice is just awful.

True, R371. It's thin and tinny and tuneless. The voice of a basic backing singer. His rabid Larrie fans need to accept that he isn't a credible soloist and let it go.

Louis has really fugged out.

R366 We have no idea who Harry is supporting. In fact, we have no clue who any of the guys support or how they spend their money. Invested well, they cam make it last a very long time.

Hmm, Liam is all excited over going to Coachella, even though he's only in the audience, not performing.

Whoooa this has to be the most savage article every written about a 1d boy. All the shade.

Niall looks great!

Damn, the Niall is A Beautiful Man troll has found the thread.

Lardfug Niall isn't ageing well, is he? He looks 45, not 25. All that soft tissue in his face has turned to LARD and he needs facial lipo.

Niall is adorable. I really wanna give him a smooch right now.

Niall is a cutie !

Niall has the flushed, fatty complexion of an alcoholic.

Liam is at Coachella. Seems like it would be something Z would be into as well.

Niall's cheeks look so kissable!

Niall is a terminal lardfug, sadly.

Some moron is trying to say BTS have surpassed 1d's achievements.

What a vicious, pointless article about Liam Payne. The Guardian newspaper is usually above these sorts of things. Wonder what prompted it.

Where is the soft tissue troll btw?

The soft tissue troll and Harry styles' - not so subtle - stan on this board haven't had a heart to heart in a while.

And yes, it's a vicious article that you don't usually expect from the guardian - Maybe someone over there got tired of Liam's shit?

Does anyone else think Liam should be playing coachella? U know instead of just being there and fawning over Naomi?

Niall is not ugly, not by a stretch! And Harry styles and Louis Tomlinson are aging worse than Niall! Both look 40. Niall looks like your typical frat boy, not old.

Niall has been hitting the alcohol and junk food hard for a decade and his soft tissue has expanded into LARD. The soft tissue troll will no doubt come on and correct me.

The Guardian and other UK papers have attacked Liam before. He's just too desperate, attending every celeb event he can find and Instagramming his life like a reality star. Obviously his romance with 49 year old Naomi was always going to be mocked. The Sun had an article yesterday saying Naomi dumped Liam for being 'boring', so the attacks continue.

Harry has cut and coloured his hair, giving rise to rumors that he might be playing the part of Feyd in the new remake of Dune. All the parts have been announced except that one. Sting played the role in the original and an industry magazine picked Harry for it as part of their dream cast. They also picked Timothee to play Paul, and that is happening. It's the kind of high profile project that Styles would hop on.

R388, Liam probably did expect to play Coachella. as both Zedd and J Balvin are playing and he did recent collabs with them, so he probably thought he could jump up on stage for a bit part in their sets. Alas, this didn't happen. Liam remains terminally uncool.

I thought Liam might do that one song with J. Balvin, but nope.

Gigi is at Coachella, are we at the outs part of the PR cycle yet again? Seems like it would be his jam.

I must have them blocked, but what/who is the soft tissue troll? The HS spazz troll is someone different, yes? He probably posted 100+ of the posts on this thread, lol.

What does Niall have coming up? I assumed he was at the Masters again?

Zedd is performing at Coachella tonight, he and Liam did that song and vid together, perhaps he will bring him out? He is on at 7:45 PDT according to the stream.

Liam will be one of Zedd's special guests tonight. You can catch it on the livestream.

Liam has got himself a nice six pack there and seems very happy.

The Soft Tissue Troll is a cosmetic surgeon who comes on from time to time to rave about Niall's face and how much 'soft tissue' he has. Weird.

Niall is boringly at the Masters. He doesn't do cool things.

How do you know that, R394? He has been at Coachella all weekend, does not mean he is performing.

J. Balvin put on a really strong set, too bad he did not bring Liam out.

Zedd and Liam seemed to really have fun together tho. And it would be nice for Liam to have the visibility.

Zedd just brought out Katy Perry.

Yes, Niall was at the Masters having a hell of a good time.

Glad to hear it.

Despite the efforts of the Harry Styles troll to convince us otherwise, Naill seems to be living his best life.

I dunno about Liam and Zedd. Do not think it is gonna happen given how his set is going. If he does bring him out, would be hard not to do better than Katy who was a bit of a dud. What has happened to her career?!

This pic of Liam is cringey, he needs a better stylist.

Liam looks like he is having a great time ! Harry has no clue how to have a good time anymore.

Glad Liam and Niall are both having really fun weekends.

It is good visibility for Liam to be out and about with his peers. He has been doing lots of Insta stories and has been out and about at parties and different sets. No performing but still good for his career.

[R390] No. Just no. Its one thing to splash around in water and do a barely passable job,its another thing to do a walking talking less splashing role and do good by it!

In all honesty he might be campaigning for that part hence the hair. Some people ship him with timothee and this role could get him a lot of publicity. Hell even the speculation is getting him publicity and I wouldn't put it past him that his team is putting out these rumours and he is actually not even in the neighbourhood of being considered.

Bottom line is he CAN'T ACT. I think we expect very little acting from popstars when they dabble into it and praise them for below avg performances in movies. A seasonal actor would always do a better job than them except Jared leto and Barbra Streisand :D

Remember when there were reports that "Leonardo DiCaprio had invited Harry styles to his home to discuss scripts with him " ? Yeah!! That happened. His team is incredibly delusional.

Having said that I sincerely hope I don't have to see that painful mediocrity among actual good actors like Javier bardem and timmy.

Feyd is a small part so Harry might be able to carry it off. His acting was praised in Dunkirk. Critics were primed to drag him, but it didn't happen.

The cast is already filming Dune and all roles except Feyd have been announced. If he is Feyd, they are probably intentionally keeping it quiet because they don't want the paps photographing the set, as they did a LOT during the Dunkirk filming, just to post pics of Harry.

Harry cut his hair very short last week and he has colored it.

Limelight loving Liam is hilarious. I saw on Twit that he has posed for 32 sets of HQs just this year, 2019. He can't resist a red carpet. He found two at Coachella, despite not performing.

Zedd and Balvin now understand that he isn't cool and so decided not to bring him on stage. I think he will struggle to find other collab partners from now on.

Touring and merch is where the big money is, as Harry knows.

[R404] Every time he appeared on screen in Dunkirk he took me out of the movie so I would rather not watch him in anything else. As far as critics are concerned GQ and variety are always fawning over him for everything, so I wouldn't trust them blindly.

I am genuinely excited for this movie so I have my fingers crossed.

[R405] I thought it was weird he didn't go up with them. He needs to seize these opportunities.

Oh niall! why can't he do something a 70 year old WOULDN'T do for ONE WEEKEND!? I feel like he is deliberately trying to be blalnder than ed Sheeran!

Blander*

Who saw Katy Perry's part? Was it bad? I am really rooting for her to have a comeback! Kinda have a soft spot for her.

My guess is that Liam was not asked to guest with them at Coachella, not that he was and turned it down. I do not think it will have anything to do with collabs in the future, past collabs have done welll. I do not thing J. Balvin brought on anyone and Zedd had lined up Katy. Think they are on the same label?

Katy was not great. You can re-wind the live stream on Youtube from yesterday, pull it to the left.

Her career seemed to tank with the bleached, super short Pink type hair, she should grow it back out. She talked about coming to Coachella for 17 years which did not help in making her seem young and relevant. He is not a great dancer, either. I have a soft spot for her too and do not think this helped her. Ari kind of took her young kid audience.

The Zedd/Katy collab has been out less than 2 months so having her was to give it a push. The collabs Liam did with both were a while ago in the sales cycle. No diss to Liam, it is a business.

People do not just jump up on stage at these festivals. We are not talking The Dead in 1975, these shows are super high tech and timed in length and with effects. The set times are very tight and the headliners have to finish at a certain point due to zoning. It is not some free form jam kinda thing.

Happy for Liam and Niall that they had great weekends!

Liam got it all wrong. STd did very well and he should have released an album and toured in 2017, before interest waned and vast numbers of 1dead stans jumped ship to bts and Shawn.

[R409] I am sorry I didn't explain myself very well. I didn't mean he should have jumped on stage. I meant it was weird he wasn't included by them in spite of being there but it makes sense now - calling Katy. They released 365 and he wanted to hype it up.

R411, these rappers and djs often bring out multiple guests to sing with them so that isn't the reason Liam was left out.

[R412] Well their songs came out long back. They probably just wanted to do their own thing and only called katy because the song was so recent.

Anyway it's all a neverending speculation.

Is R412 the Harry Styles troll?

Doubt Hairloss Harold will ever perform at Coachella. Guess time will tell.

Please don't feed the trolls.

On twitter some people are saying Harry styles is playing not only freyd but also Elvis Presley in his biopic. According to them he is also dating an academy award winning actress. Lol.

Harry seems to be avoiding festivals altogether after that one appearance at ihearts. I'm sure he has some crazy ambition like headlining Glastonbury, but that's not going to happen. Rock/pop bands tend to steer clear of Coachella, don't they? It's more an urban/pop thing.

(Edit) spelling! Feyd*

If Harry plays Feyd, he'll be killed by Paul, Timothee Chalamet's character, so the fangirls are already hysterical.

I doubt they'd cast a Brit with green eyes who's smothered in tattoos as Elvis Presley.

[R417] They always have a few rock bands/performers though not as many as urban/pop ones for obvious reasons.

[R419] Exactly! It makes no sense to cast him as Elvis :D Fraus are hysterical.

Dune is currently filming at Wadi Rum, a desert location in Jordan which is also a tourist hot spot. If Harry is spotted there, or at Petra, or Cairo, on a side trip, it definitely means he's been cast.

You mean little girls, right R421?

R423, I saw the pics of the audience from his last tour and it is mainly 40 plus fraus. The little girls moved on to BTS and Shawn. The fraus stay for the gay.

Harry alienated the Top 40 crowd of tweens with his 70s Pink Floyd album. The 50 something Larries loved it though. Calculated.

Wait What?! Larries are 50 somethings??

Here's a thought, don't believe everything you read.

A lot of the Larries around now are older fraus who just move from fandom to fandom, tinhatting imaginary gay couples. They were in LOTR years ago. A lot of young ones do get drawn in but don't tend to stay as they become less impressionable and more realistic with age.

Zayn is singing the theme song or one of the songs for the new Aladdin musical. He was spotted with long hair, filming in Central Park.

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Per the Independent, Harry has kept the 1D young girl fan base. The bulk of middle aged women/men at shows are likely parents who drove the kids there. He has the same audience as BTS or Ariana Grande, a co-worker just took her 8 year old son to see her. If you want to blather about Larries in 2019, please see yourself out and head to the Harry Styles troll/spaz troll thread. Bless.

Z dropped a new video

R431, the 1d audience grew up. Any photos of his audience shows a majority of 20 something women who liked 1d as teenagers, and some older women. 8 year olds like catchy pop aka Ariana, BTS, not dull 70s tunes.

Sure R431, women in their 30s and 40s in the front rows, standing, with no children in sight. All the concert footage proves you wrong.

Women and gay men. No kids in sight.

R431, you are linking to an article that came out before his 70s album. The under tens heard that and moved on.

I think your comment was directed towards me [R431]. I am not trying to start a conversation about Larries,i LOATHE Larries! Was just surprised as I was a casual 1D listener and always assumed larries were teens, preteens.

The song is good [R432] however I don't think it'll chart well considering current music climate. But it's a step in right direction. I really hope Z is releasing the pop version of the theme song of Aladdin,it would get him a lot of exposure! He is filming the video with some girl called Zhavia. Daily mail and the sun are the only ones who have confirmed it's for Aladdin rest of the media outlets are still speculating. He looked good!!!

The few performances he did for the first album went fine. The all female band was a cool schtick. Wish he could have kept it at that level.

Gigi was at Coachella. Too bad he did not go with her. Just being there and interacting with peers in the industry is a good thing, Liam was hustling.

Agree that if it is for a film that would be a boost. Does he even have a manager at this point? If Scooter can manage Biebs, surely he could cope with Z? I get why the first one dumped him right after Peep died, esp with the murky backstory about people from the mgt co and drugs. If she had another young client OD, yadda, yadda.

He does look good, and that VOICE. Watching Blood Orange on the live stream I thought of Z. He could still have a solid career. Beta blockers, whatever gets him on the stage regularly until he is back in the groove a bit.

Z said he'd never spoken to a professional about his anxiety, but he has probably self medicated with benzos like Xanax, Valium, Ativan. These actually cause rebound anxiety which is worse than the original experience, which could be happening to Zayn. Copious weed consumption has the same effect. But it's good to see him looking handsome with longer hair, esp as Hoerry has cut his short, possibly for a film role.

[R439] I appreciate your enthusiasm but I think Zayn has done a lot more than just Benzos! He needs rehab.

Oh the things he could do with the right attitude!

I was suggesting them as a way for him to get back on stage, not as a sum total of his drug experiences, R440.

He's just lazy and would rather sit at home and smoke pot all day. The boy has zero work ethic. Gigi needs to kick his ass.

All he has to do is pop half a Xanax or Valium before a concert and he should be good to go.

Thought Z was said to be bipolar, as so many creative people are. Some of his drug use may be self medicating for that and other mental health issues. Travel exacerbates it but he coped, albeit poorly, in 1D. He clearly has anxiety too, but that is a big thing now, look at the career of Lil Peep. These millennials revel in oversharing about their various disorders and he seems to have no British reticence about his own.

He has no real incentive to tour or do live performances, given his wealth. Agree that smoking pot and selfies seem to be his preferred way to spend his time, with the occasional new tat.

Thought that latest round of PR had him and Gigi split? Who can keep up? Those PR cycles are the underpining of his career, what a waste.

Does Zayn have a good support system? Not talking about hadid. His family? He has a big family right? Wonder how much they have tried to help him.

He doesn't have a manager yet. I don't know why you guys like Scooter Braun - the guy lives for drama. Z would do better with a proper manager who only likes to work behind the scenes, not famewhores like scooter or jeff.

I think his support system consists of Gigi and a blunt. And Gigi is iffy and in and out.

Scooter has been very successful for his clients. Z has a career mainly based on drama, so it is a great fit in that sense. But for Gigi and social media Z has done very little since MoM came out 3 years ago. He is a drama hoe, although maybe if he was working his PR could be about, you know, his career.

[R445] The Shade is real!

This just made me wonder how many popstars today have a PR based on actual careers? Anyone else except adele?

Z had a manager, who, like Scooter, is very familiar with marketing to the age of his fan base. She did not seem to have as much success with getting druggy clients to work, with Z and Peep, may he RIP as examples of that.

Z has no real incentive to do anything he does not want to do. Not sure any manager will want to take him on without some inkling that he wants to work.

It is nothing new, look at the pr around classics like Bowie or the Stones. Pretty sure that they made movies promoting Elvis.

Adele ruined her voice, Z still has his. Beta blockers and a kick in the ass could be his best friends...

The appearances around MoM went well/fine. He could at least do recorded spots for late night.

Well said R431 ! Just because the trolls here spew pretend facts, that doesn't make them real.

Shaking my head at Zayn.

Zain is beautiful. He needs to take his career back from Miguel.

He did several performances when MoM was released. Beta blockers and a shove on stage and it will be like riding a bicycle, it will all come back. With his looks, voice and those eyes, he could make a fortune. Unusually for a boybander, his peers see Z as cool. He could have an amazing career, still.

R448, what makes you think Adele ruined her voice?

As for Zayn 'still having' his voice - well, we have no clue what he sounds like live anymore, sans production or autotune. His last live performance was with 1d in four years ago. Maybe he really did waste all his 'good years'.

It remains to be seen what RCA make of all this. Zayn's contract is most likely up in July. They funded his expensive, movie style videos complete with top actors and famous models, yet got pretty shabby returns in terms of sales. How much is an artist who refuses to promote (AT ALL) or sing outside the studio worth to them?

R450. Serious question. What peers think Zayn is cool ?

R452, young Muslim guys in the UK liked MoM but then the tactless fool went and alienated them all last year when he said he didn't identify as a Muslim in an interview with GQ.

Liam has skinny calf syndrome.

..........

That's from June 2018, R455.

Although Zayn thinks differently, he was perfect as a member of a boy band. He didn't need much talent and got to perform and gets screamed at for 5 years. He had all the PR he ever needed.

Agree, R457. He left all the crowd interaction, dancing etc to the other boys, usually Harry and Liam. He has no idea how to command a stage on his own and looks profoundly uncomfortable. Louis Tomlinson is the same, even worse because his voice is so much weaker.

At the end of the day, only two of them have a real career and have made it to the holy grail of best selling album and world tour.

Harry is on the loose again in LA. Lunch with Rande Gerber in Malibu and then at some concert at the Forum.

With Azoff's girlfriend.

wHarry was at his rumored girlfriend's concert - Jennie from Blackpink.

Harry and Kpop Jennie would make a cute couple.

Louis' single Two of Us did so badly. Didn't even crack the top 50 in the UK.

So just because Harry followed a music artist and went to her concert, they're dating? That's not even enough to spark a rumor.

Kpop idols have a No dating clause in their contracts which if breached leads to expulsion from the group. Bts and blackpink both must have it.

[R463] I think that's the angle his team is taking. Blackpink is doing really well and getting a lot of headlines these days. H is piggybacking for the publicity. His fraus are delusional enough to think they are dating! :D

Harry likes older women. Word is that he was seen escorting Mrs. Livingston around town.

'Kpop idols have a No dating clause in their contracts which if breached leads to expulsion from the group. Bts and blackpink both must have it. '

Once they become older and mega successful the clause is relaxed. EXO's Kai and Jennie were dating last year. There were articles about it.

I don't think he's dating Jennie. All his gfs have been over 5 ft 7 and she is only 5 ft 2.

Do not forget that also makes him the straightest straight who ever straighted, at least to young girls.

Larry alert at R468.

He fucked all these girls and is bi, not gay...and bi in the same way Bowie was, meaning he'll settle down and have kids with a woman.

Louis' 15 year old sisters are model pretty.

Hi Harry @ [R466] :D

[R470] They are definitely pretty but I hope you know those pictures are photoshopped within an inch of the frame. You know - Kendall and Kylie jenner level Photoshop.

It's interesting, some of the trolls here know exactly who Harry has slept with. Amazing.

R471, the twins look like that in candids taken on the XF set too. They are genetically blessed. If they make 5 ft 8 they could be fashion models.

2 years ago he looked 12. And could smile.

He looks puffy eyed there, R474. I remember when those pictures came out and posters here were saying he looked rough and ugly, same as they did in 2015 when he had his long hair. Some people fell out of love with Harry in 2014 and will never feel the same again.

He looks best with longer hair but not too long. Maybe curling just over the collar.

Louis' sisters are cute but for 15 they are already into size 6 US size 10 UK clothes, so will probably end up a bit chunky, like the poor sister who died. I see Eds in their future.

[R476] How do you know the size of their outfits?

Btw how many people here used to be fans of Harry but aren't anymore?

Lol, R477. Do not hold back.

I wanted to be a fan of Harry, I liked his voice before. His whole persona is so off putting and his music sucks. And the troll that has been here for years is a hilarious failure.

Well, since you asked, here goes. I was a Harry stan. But his horrible music, bad videos, and him turning into a hermit turned me off. He is the most boring pop star in the world. He acts like his heart isn't in it, like he's just doing music because it pays well, not hecause it's a passion. I don't think he's done any festivals because he doesn't give a fuck about music, in my opinion.

He doesn't seem to care too much for his fans either. He hasn't posted on Instagram since July or August. He won't even post a picture or two a month to keep fans placated. And his Tweets seem like they were written by a robot. If Harry's music was good, the rest wouldn't matter, but it's garbage. I'm over this weird dude.

He has pretty much lost his looks, too. Shame, all of it i a disappointment.

Preach, R479!

Exactly [R478] [R479] !!

Hope he has a better plan for second one and NO grandma curtains stitched into ill fitted suits please!

I'm hanging on as a Harry fan but I want the old personality to come back. I think his management is putting shit in his head that doesn't need to be there.

You mean you hope Bhasker has a better plan, right, R481?

Have he and Jeff distanced a bit? After years of being joined at the hip?

Wonder if the Azzoffs are positioning to cut him if he under performs again?

Harry's 80m deal predicted he would sell 5m over three albums, and he's on track, with the first one selling 1.7m. The Azoffs aren't about to cut him loose while they have a 10% cut of his tour earnings, which were 60m last year.

Niall looks 40, overweight and ugly. He grossed 20m from his tour and had about 200k unsold tickets. His second album is heading for an Icarus Falls type situation.

R483 Harry was just at the Blackpink concert with Jeff's wife. Photo above.

R483 But who else could get Jeffrey that much attention ?

[quote]Harry's 80m deal predicted he would sell 5m over three albums, and he's on track, with the first one selling 1.7m.

Record labels look at how many albums AND singles an artist sells. Ever since albums sales declined significantly, the album/singles metric is the most important number to them.

Harry's label was not pleased that Harry decided to release an album with no radio-friendly singles. That's lost revenue for them. Album artists, like Harry, Lorde and Frank Ocean are not as lucrative to labels as artists who can sell both albums and singles.

Unless the music gets a LOT better and he becomes more popular more broadly, he may have trouble hitting that 5. The 1st album had the most carryover of the huge 1D audience and had a novelty factor. Both of those things will attenuate.

The 5M number is just the break-even point for his 80M deal (according to Hits Daily Double). Good for him if he's on track to meet it but I'm sure his label wants bigger returns than that.

I'm not sure why they didn't try to release a few more singles. I found that odd.

R490 Singles two and three flopped, so maybe that's why not.

R491 Which were actually released as singles ?

Nevermind, I just saw that Kiwi and Two Ghosts were released,,,wow.

R492 Sign Of The Times, Two Ghosts, and Kiwi.

I guess I remembered Kiwi had a video, but didn't realize that Two Ghost was released and did so poorly.

He made up some of the lost revenue with the tour. Record labels get a percentage of tour profits, so he can keep them satisfied that way. Shawn Mendes is doing the same with his tour after his album and singles flopped.

Imagine how pissed-off RCA is with Zayn, who can't sell albums, singles and he won't even tour. They've lost so much money with him.

R496 But why do they keep him ?

How much is Shawn's tour expected to make?

[R483] Actually yeah! Lol! Bhasker is the one running things.

They will definitely not drop Harry. He is still making them a lot of money,he is also helping Jeff Azoff be the best famewhore he can be. Also they have Meghan trainor who has been constantly underperforming and they haven't dropped her so...

R499 How is Jeff Azoff a famewhore? He's barely ever seen and tries to stay out of the spotlight.

He was babysitting H the whole time during his BBC special. He is also frequently present in fan and pap pics and I can bet he will be by his side at the MET gala.

I was wondering what will happen first - hitting 600 comments on this thread or 28th April ,marking 2 months since this thread was started :D

R501 A manager being around his client doesn't make him a famewhore, in my opinion. Also, Harry and Jeff are best friends. But anyway, we're all entitled to our opinons.

You guys ready to see Ezra Miller outdo Harry with his MET Gala outfit? It's On May 6th, so it isn't long now.

Harry has had a lot of best friends thru the years. They come and go.

Jeff has been Harry's best friend since 2013 but he wasn't by his side on any of the red carpets and certainly won't be posing on the Met Gala red carpet with him. Harry will most likely turn up on his own or with Gucci's creative director, Alessandro Michele.

Harry makes plenty of money for Columbia. His tour broke merch records at 50 venues and they get their share of that too.

I don't know what will happen to Louis' career. His March single performed very badly.

Actually managers are always around their clients but they are never in the frame. I can't even tell the names of the managers of my favourite artists. He might actually be his best friend for all I care but tell me which other manager did you see sitting next to their client at a BBC special?

I am ROOTING for Ezra! I don't even care about anybody else' outfit at this point.

He won't obviously walk the red carpet as only the people with invitations are allowed to.

I figured Louis' fans would atleast get this single on the charts especially right after his sister died. I was wrong.

If the Harry Styles troll will not stick to its own thread, perhaps we could have a convention of only referring to ONE MEMBER of 1D per comment? His fawning coupled with slams are so tiresome.

No offense to you R506.

The relationship has always had a big element of building the brand of Azoff jr. R506. You are right, managers are usually out of the shot, not all over Insta and joined at the hip. Although that seems to have changed of late?

Harry has not had the breakout of the 1D lane that many, including here, expected. Album 2 is kinda his last shot. His current niche is lucrative, but people will eventually age out, no? Bhasker has some pretty strong credits, not sure how it all ended up so meh?

[R508] Bhasker is quite brilliant. I think SOTT could have been a great song had someone else had written it entirely without Harry's input(whatever it was). Remember when Bhasker worked with fun? Nate Ruess is an amazing songwriter and his song writing perfectly complemented Bhasker's production.

The way the album turned out made me believe Harry actually did have input.lol.

Lol, R509, you may well be correct. We Are Young is a banger.

His credits include working on My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, Run This Town and Uptown Funk.

From Wiki:

Jeff Bhasker (also known as Billy Kraven and U.G.L.Y.) is an American record producer, songwriter, keyboardist, vocalist, and multi-instrumentalist. He collaborated with rapper and producer Kanye West on the albums 808s & Heartbreak, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, and Watch the Throne. He has won Grammy Awards for the songs "Run This Town" by Jay-Z, "All of the Lights" by Kanye West, "We Are Young" by Fun., and "Uptown Funk" by Mark Ronson.[1][2] Bhasker received the 2016 Grammy Award for Producer of the Year, Non-Classical for co-producing Mark Ronson's album Uptown Special and producing Nate Ruess's album Grand Romantic among other records.

R500 Were you being serious ?

Jeff Azoff has been at Harry's side since 2013. Yes, I agree he is a bit of a famewhore. I don't know any managers that need to insert themselves so deeply in the life of the star. He is everywhere. If he spent a year touring with Harry, and he did, how does he have time for other clients?

Can you imagine the BILL, R512?! For all that 3rd wheeling with Jeff and his girlfriend, all on the clock.

My sense is that AZzoff the younger is around a lot less now, anyone have guesses as to why?

I think he's still around R513. Harry attended the BlackPink concert with his wife the other night.. He couldn't have been far away.

Sorry, girlfriend.

Eh, maybe he needed a night off, lol.

Hope the 2nd album is better and this whole odd persona they have created gets swapped out for a bit more authenticity. He does not seem to actually be into a musical or film career, and given how hungry most in the biz seem, that is a bit disconcerting.

Anyone posting here know Azzoff personally? Harry has kind of a chameleon/lack of core personality vibe, much like Brad Pitt changing his clothes and hair to match his girlfriends. Just wondered what Jeff was like before all this?

R516 I think it's all part of the PR plan to be taken seriously. And to do that, I guess he had to lose all of his personality.

So the ironic and unintended effect was to make him a bit of a joke, R517?

Good thing he does not need the money.

The Azzoff family sure has made bank though, huh? Does the Snapchat girlfriend bill for her time too?

R518. A joke ? No, no, he's an artist ! (lol)

The Azoff's dont do anything unless they make bank. Sad that Harry's "friend" is on the payroll.

Welp, he might seem like a friend, but when there is an invoice...sure kept a tight leash on how it would all go down by sticking so close all the time.

H was young and probably young for his age in many ways, touring since 16 does not really give you normal development. Kind of like shooting fish in a barrel for someone with the bona fides of Irv. Sonny boy is now set up, Irv is getting up there.

'The Azzoff family sure has made bank though, huh? Does the Snapchat girlfriend bill for her time too?'

Seven years here trying to make yourself sound young by using millennial type words such as 'welp' and 'eh', and you still can't spell 'Azoff'.

Jeff's girlfriend has been with him since 2010, so no billing of time. I'm shocked that you haven't labelled her a beard or said Jeff is closeted. Maybe you read the room and realised that nobody here is buying your 'everyone is gay and closeted' trash.

No, people will not 'stick to one boy per post'. Wtf is your favorite Zayn up to? He does no work at all. One listening party was his idea of promo for Icarus Falls.

'He does not seem to actually be into a musical or film career, and given how hungry most in the biz...'

Are you talking about Zayn here or the guy who grossed 62m last year (before merch sales) on an 88 date world tour?

Harry remains laser focused on music with the occasional high profile foray into fashion. He isn't an instahoe like Liam or Niall and the industry takes him a lot more seriously than they do the others.

Harry styles' troll is out in the open finally @ [R522] :D

R523 That happened long ago. The ignore button is your friend.

He/she is being more obvious now.

Nobody has reported about Louis' sister's tox screen . Anyone knows anything of it?

Louis buried the tox report, R525. You are a Niall troll and the Welp! poster is a Zayn troll.

Louis posted 500 words today about how he was starting over with his album, and forgetting about being commercial. The album will have taken him five years if he releases in 2020.

No info on Louis sister.

I heard the Sign of the Times (think that was the name?) song tonight in a chain grocery. It has not held up well. The bullets, the bullets? Please. It sounded vaguely like some 4 Non-Blondes B-side but not catchy. Took me a minute to place it but it goes on and on so there was plenty of time.

Bangers, that is what is needed. Not endless droning of meaningless, faux-deep word salad.

I had hoped Harry would do well, I had liked his voice. Maybe they can pull it out on Harry 2.0.

I saw a story about Louis today, has this been posted?

R528 Yeah, he needs better, catchier songs. He is not a good songwriter, so he needs to hire some good ones, and ditch the ones he used on his first album. It would have been so easy to make him into a great pop star, but him and his team seriosly fucked it up.

Harry's fans love to brag about his high tour sales, and while he did great on that front, the tickets were bought mostly by screaming 1D fangirls who yell so loud and don't even listen to the music. He needs songs that are gonna attract the general public. He is not indie and has no indie or rock cred, so he needs to stop pretending and embrace pop.

Songs that he is capable of singing live would also be a plus.

R530 You're right, he needs to embrace what he is good at,,pop music, or something close. He needs to be the charismatic guy he was for so long.

Almost all of Harry's songs were written by the same 6 people, Bhasker included. He needs to mix it up a bit. I certainly hope his next album will have new writers thrown in.

After he left One Direction he said he had 9 journals of song lyrics. There must be something in there that they could put a catchy tune to and make a hit. If not, that's sad.

[R526] I'm not niall troll. You can check my post history if it really matters to you.

[R528] They could have literally made it a 3 and a half minute song instead of droning on and on.

[R529] I like that note. Seems honest. Now if only Liam can realize this too! :D

[R531] The shade!

And yeah louis definitely buried that report.

R531 Yes, he always struggled to sing Sign Of The Times. He had one time where he nailed it (Graham Norton Show), but that was an effort for him. I don't know why he'd make his first single (or any single) a song that he can't sing live. His voice could sound great on a song, but sadly him and people around him don't know how to play to his strengths vocally. He has a nice, pleasant voice, but SOTT was all wrong for him.

I'd like Harry to.go more rock/indie. Ditch the annoying female backing singers and sing within his range. A song like Youngblood by 5SOS (one of the best selling of 2018) would have done wonders for him. He is still so young but some of his stage outfits were quite aging.

Matty Healey from The 1975 offered to produce HS2 but Harry again went with Bhasker, who seems to have an urban background.

I wonder what direction or the future holds for Liam and Louis?

R536 i really like Younblood. I wanted Harry to do something like that. 5SOS are adapting well to the current music climate.

Harry's suits are hideous, but my biggest issue with them is if an artist wears expensive formal suits all the time, i expect their talent to be immense. And Harry's talent is not immense. lol

R537 I don't know about Louis. But Liam has turned himself into a joke. His EP was cheap sounding. He has a decent voice (although I don't prefer his tone), but keeps putting out subpar material.

Poor Liam, he was always said to be the most ambitious one. But he went off course right from the beginning and can't make it back. His best bet would be to go back to writing with Julian Benetta , John Ryan and Jamie Scott and start over.

R540, it's hilarious the way the little 1d fans say that Liam and Louis wrote the 1d hits, when in reality it was Savan Kotecha, Julian Bunetta, Jamie Scott, John Ryan and Ruth Anne Cunningham, with the boys getting vanity credits.

Liam went the way of collabs and his label don't seem to want an album or a tour for him. Louis' last two singles failed to chart on the Hot100 or the UK 40 so I don't know where he'll go next.

Agree that a more rock sound would suit Harry. His current music is too folky and dated, with some embarrassing lyrics like 'she's a devil in between the sheets". Yes, lose the girl backing singers and the Pink Floyd guitar too. The suits need to go. Tight trousers and fancy sleeveless tops are the way forward. No fusty suit jackets.

R541 You're right about Harry. As I have mentioned a million times (sorry) his management has some crazy ideas they have put in his head about the path he should follow. He wants credibility so bad, but they went waaay too far with it.

I read Louis twitter and I'm not really sure how to take it. Is he going to scrap the whole album he was almost finished with? I think he mentioned it was 18 songs?

Harry's suits wouldn't be quite as bad if they weren't bell bottom. HUGE bell bottom.

Harry is a young guy who is loved by baby fraus for his looks. They don't want to see him trussed up in a suit jacket; they want to see his arms, torso, stomach, legs in tight jeans. He dresses like a 70 year old cruise ship singer with a huge wardrobe budget.

His career comes off like cosplay, it is off putting. Needs better music and maybe some hairline help.

Louis did a great job with this. I'm sure his PR people thought of it, but he did it, and I'm very proud of him. People that are kind to the elderly impress the hell out of me.

Louis' team placed an advert to find that guy so Louis could yet again play Lady Bountiful.

What is happening with Louis? I hope he isn't going to completely scrap his whole album and start again.

That video is really lovely. Wish the best for both Louis and Richard.

May Fizzy RIP.

Cheryl finally moved out of Liam's house so he can move back in. So, are we to believe she had no house of her own before she met Liam ? She's 35 years old ??

R550, she had a huge mansion called Hurtmore House which she shared with Ashley Cole. She's worth £30m so has no problems buying houses.

Two of us climbed 108 places and was sitting at 64 on UK iTunes last I checked.

Cheryl sounds exhausting!

Just because Louis says he had nearly a whole album completed, doesn’t make it true.

R553, Louis is lucky his label boss likes him. Who else would have the patience to let him procrastinate and change his mind for three years?

R553 He had to have at least some of it done.

It's quite possible R555, but sometimes I tell my manager that my report is almost finished when all I've done is open a word document.

BTS released three albums in the last year so Louis needs to get his act together. He always comes across as quite lazy.

R556. Totally understand, but I usually have my document at least labeled after 3 years, maybe not finished, but started.

Harry looked great in April 2017 and should aim for this look again.

This song, Dance to This by Troye Sivan, and Ariana Grande, is better than anything the 1Dead boys have put out. It reminds me of Dance Away the Heartache by Roxy Music.

When Harry goes on the road next time I hope he has a better band with him. His drummer is awkward to watch and guitarist Mitch Rowland isn't as good as he thinks. And when Harry dresses them all up in Gucci, they look silly.

R561, I hope he ditches all of the CHASM band and employs some hot guys in their 20s to flirt with. All his band members are in their 30s and it just contributes to the 'old before his time' vibe. Crazed Azoff is trying to recreate Fleetwood Mac.

Mitch just stands there and looks like he wants to be anywhere else. Not fun to watch.

Louis had a lovely and kind demeanor in that video. With his work on the Cowell show maybe he will find a niche that is not just about singing? Some sort of chat show, perhaps?

R563 You're right. Even when Harry tries to engage him he just stands there. It's creepy. Thank goodness he got a haircut, he looked like a caveman before.

R564 Louis has expressed he doesn't know if he is going back to the XFactor. He was very good on that show, I wonder if another show like that would be interested in him?

Louis should move into TV as his music isn't selling beyond his small group of fans. I can see him as a presenter of a show about making bucket list dreams come true for people who have been through heartache and pain.

I'm sure Louis will do fine, he will figure out.

Anyone going? I used to love me some Ellie Goulding.

Liam quite far down the bill, I see. He will never headline his own tour now.

Louis seems to be getting back to work and has contracted for more gigs.

Louis still has only five songs so he will have to pad out his set with 1d songs, many of which weren't written for his voice.

Harry is keeping all his hair hidden under a beanie, amidst speculation that he has colored it a crazy shade for the Met Gala on May 6.

Harry telling the gentleman they like the same style pants !

His hair looks fine. He's been wearing a hat for a long time.

Ha ha, that guy really is wearing the same kind of trousers Harry usually wears and looks silly in.

Harry could dye his pubic hair and show up at the Gala with no pants and I am not sure many would care at this point. His image is unappealing and his music a cross between a yawn and a turn off. Shame. Hope 2.0 is catchier.

Nearly 1m people showed up to see Harry play live just last year, R574. Meanwhile, your favourite Zayn only managed to sell 5k copies of his second album because all his fans have deserted his lazy, tour refusing ass. The British tabloids will all lead with Harry (as they did for the Rock Hall of Fame) because they know plenty will be interested.

Rumours are flying that Harry might be cast as Prince Charming in James Corden's remake of Cinderella or as Danny Zuko in the prequel to Grease.

So here we have Harry with typical Harry Styles fans, the ones who fill the arenas and can afford expensive merch. FRAUS, not tweens who all like Ariana Grande and BTS.

Harry looks so bad all the time.

The gurls at Niall's shows were WAY HOTTER!!!

LARDTARD NIALL LOOKS LIKE HE BELONGS IN A PIG STY!

Niall seems to have successfully aged up and expanded his fan base.

Harry has not. He has the dwindling 1D fans. He gets one more chance, really. Then it will be a 1D reunion at some point.

I can see Niall's sophomore album doing well. Harry's not so much.

R580, Niall's twitter likes show he has lost 25% of the fans who were around for the release of Flicker and his 2018 tour, unlike Harry's, had over 200k unsold tickets. His 2019 single with Julia Michaels didn't chart anywhere.

He will now play to smaller and smaller crowds until his career is confined to Ireland. He lost so many of his original fans when he gained 60lbs and fugged out.

Niall's second album will be another Icarus Falls. Niall's fans have moved on to Shawn.

Niall will do just fine.

I might actually be interested in the Met Gala if Harry showed up with no pants.

Niall will be kickin' ass and takin' names!

He can still smile !!

The poor kid must have posed with over 20 fans today.

R579 Too rude to call Niall a pig.

R579 Hey, it's Samwise from LoTR!

Harry should get Shawn Mendes laid, or better just fuck him.

Lardfug Niall tried to expand his fanbase but Americans weren't interested and he played to 33% capacity in 20k places.

Harry is neither poor nor a kid. He is clearly out for PR purposes, 2.0 must be coming along. Hope it is an improvement.

Lose the grandpa pants for starters, the Gucci slippers are quite affected too.

The only thing Niall has expanded is his girth.

H8erz gonna h8, h8, h8.

NIALL ROCKS!!!

Haters get blocked.

We need a new thread.

Harry is on the IG stories of an LA gay guy called Mike Rose, who works in casting at MTV. They're cuddling up on a transit tram going to a gay club called Flaming Saddles. H is drunk with his arms around this guy's neck.

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I wonder if Jeffrey knows about this ? lol

Larries were quick to add Mr Fug to the picture.

H looks quite stoned there.

The hairline is a disaster.

Gaying it up in WeHo with people his own age? Anyone see him out and about?

Rose does like a good Insta story, it seems.