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British Royal Family Gossip: Part 22

Keep calm and carry on!

by Anonymousreply 603February 22, 2019 2:31 AM

Previous thread.

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by Anonymousreply 1February 18, 2019 8:38 PM

ME!’s baby might have a chance to be attractive but I have a feeling she’s going to let that kid be all nappy, like Mariah Carey did with hers. She should keep the hair Obama short (if it’s a boy) or tightly ironed and in pigtails if it’s a girl.

by Anonymousreply 2February 18, 2019 8:54 PM

Ironing a little girl's hair is tantamount to parental abuse, in my opinion.

by Anonymousreply 3February 18, 2019 8:57 PM

Yes, ironing a child’s hair is telling them they aren’t good enough just as they are. I love seeing little black or mixed race kids with a big fluffy afro. There’s a kid in my street who looks adorable with her natural hair.

by Anonymousreply 4February 18, 2019 9:08 PM

I’ll bet the child will have free-flowing hair. Besides being cute, it is very much on trend, just look at any TV commercial. (And let’s face it, being on trend is something Meg and Harry certainly wouldn’t mind, especially in terms of a new look for the BRF.)

by Anonymousreply 5February 18, 2019 9:22 PM

It’s sloppy looking and not proper for a royal

by Anonymousreply 6February 18, 2019 9:24 PM

Hair loss is NOT only due to maternal genes, it's an over-simplification of the genetics of hair loss in both men and women. Both Harry and William inherited genes predisposing them to baldness from both sides of family. Both brothers have same typical, balding pattern as Charles, temple, hairline, then crown. Meghan and Harry's baby will have more than hair issues though, likely to inherit Meghan's slightly cross-eyes and Harry's close-set eyes. During younger years, William definitely the more attractive brother because his eyes weren't as close-set as Harry's.

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by Anonymousreply 7February 18, 2019 9:24 PM

If you're a pillow baby theorist then this NY trip would be the ideal opportunity to pick up the newborn from the surrogate.

by Anonymousreply 8February 18, 2019 9:28 PM

Thought DL might appreciate these clips of a community theater musical about Diana.

WHY DON'T YOU BLOODY GO HOME

BLOODY GO HOME

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by Anonymousreply 9February 18, 2019 9:37 PM

Since the past couple of year Harry is morphing into Charles at a faster rate than William because he looks more like Charles and the Windsor side.

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by Anonymousreply 10February 18, 2019 9:45 PM

Wow. Never seen this one before.

Kate wearing the same dress she wore whilst giving a guy a lap dance lol lap dance pic included in link

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by Anonymousreply 11February 18, 2019 9:53 PM

LOL at that Diana musical. I have fantasized about an Evita-style musical about Diana, written by Andrew Lloyd Webber, full of “high flying adored” and “Santa Evita” type songs. Probably too soon.

by Anonymousreply 12February 18, 2019 10:01 PM

Anyone see that “King Charles” play? I did, and didn’t think it was all that good, although it was eerily prescient depicting Harry as a dimwit who falls in love with a hip mixed-race chick. At the time I thought that was a rather unfair portrayal and far-fetched plot twist.

by Anonymousreply 13February 18, 2019 10:04 PM

It’s not about the amount of genetic variation that makes the difference, it’s the effect of the variants that do make the difference. It’s like saying that some ethnic groups being more predisposed to being lactose intolerant is a social construct not supported by genetics, because all individuals in those groups are 99.9% genetically identical, while all human genomes are 99.9% identical, but there is variation in one gene that makes 90% people in some populations lactose intolerant when in other there may be only 5%.

by Anonymousreply 14February 18, 2019 10:09 PM

You are going to get this thread deleted with your race obsession.

by Anonymousreply 15February 18, 2019 10:16 PM

Murrrrriaaal

by Anonymousreply 16February 18, 2019 10:21 PM

Enough with the genomes already!

How much fun is a super preggo going to have for 5 nights in NYC?

by Anonymousreply 17February 18, 2019 10:25 PM

I did 23andme and it said I have a 23% chance of baldness.

Guess what my head looks like...

by Anonymousreply 18February 18, 2019 10:33 PM

I wouldn’t be surprised if ME had male strippers at her shower

by Anonymousreply 19February 18, 2019 10:48 PM

Why is the baby shower in NYC?Isn't she more of a LA person,aka fake and shallow AF?

by Anonymousreply 20February 18, 2019 10:49 PM

NY due to shorter flight and more NY/ major media press coverage. L.A is getting ready for Oscars so she wouldn't have gotten as much press there anyways.

by Anonymousreply 21February 18, 2019 10:58 PM

I saw Charles III and thought they did a bad job deciding to make Kate a young Lady MacBeth sort, although they did keep her and Will on the same page. I thought their portrayal of Camilla as a perpetual afterthought was all wrong. She wasn't an afterthought - she was the woman he'd loved all his life. The Harry stuff I thought was reasonably spot on in having him pretend to be a rebel but run back to the safe haven and entitlements of being royal.

by Anonymousreply 22February 18, 2019 11:23 PM

R21 - And that's where Jessica Mulroney is, doing a fashion-shoot . . .

by Anonymousreply 23February 18, 2019 11:26 PM

If there are no pics she's not there. Typical of her to pretend she did something (spend a weekend with the Clooneys) but not.

by Anonymousreply 24February 18, 2019 11:27 PM

R24 - I'm fairly familiar with Manhattan, I lived there for awhile. The Upper East Side (which I believe means everything above E. 59th Street is where the rich live (up to a certain point) and the Plaza Athenee, the Lowell, and of course The Carlyle are some obvious possibilities. My guess would be The Carlyle, but there are others. I can't believe that the intrepid British tabs couldn't fan out and get a photo. We may yet get pix.

She heads to Morocco end of this week, so one may assume she'll be heading home at least by Wed.-Thurs.

by Anonymousreply 25February 18, 2019 11:45 PM

Good critique R22. None of the characters behaved as I imagined them. The Diana ghost, which could’ve been interesting, mostly just fluttered across the stage. It was not a serious consideration of the characters at all. I think the playwright is too young to have appreciated them in any depth.

by Anonymousreply 26February 18, 2019 11:49 PM

I was born in NYC and have lived here my entire adult life (in Brooklyn now). The rich live all over Manhattan. Much of the upper east side is like a dorm for young corporate professionals. A lot of bankers and rich kids head to Williamsburg now (Brooklyn). Soho and Tribecca are full of rich people. So is the LES. The UES has a lot of housing stock, which is why many young corporate professionals live there while they're getting a foothold, and so do people with lots of roommates (like young people in PR starting out at 45k or so).

In the 1980s there was the old fashioned idea that the rich lived about 59th and below 86th if they were on the UES. That is long gone.

I wouldn't expect her on the UES. I'd expect her, if she's trying to be hip, to be in the LES, Chelsea, Greenwich Village, particularly far west GV. In Brooklyn I'd expect Williamsburg and DUMBO.

If she's still trying to pretend she's an influencer I'd expect LES (but that Real Housewives look with ripped jeans and heels doesn't fly there) or Chelsea, but think Soho is most likely since it's like Disneyland or a theme part for a certain kind of poseur with money.

by Anonymousreply 27February 19, 2019 12:04 AM

More from R27. I forgot Meatpacking. In fact, Meatpacking is Echt Meghan.

In terms of hotels there are so many boutique hotels that have a transitory eclat and status I couldn't even begin to imagine where she'd stay. I'd expect there would be the implication she's staying in a private home as the guest of someone rich, influential and irreproachably cool. The Carlyle is currently being renovated (a friend is on the design team, the design company in charge is in chaor so i'm not expecting that to be complete any time soon. The hotel does still book guests, though).

Anything in midtown or near tourist districts, no matter how well known or how once-prestigious, is doing deals with travel companies.

Who are we kidding though. If she's in NYC (and I suspect she certainly is not), she's at Soho House, end of.

by Anonymousreply 28February 19, 2019 12:10 AM

^chaos, not chaor.

by Anonymousreply 29February 19, 2019 12:12 AM

I find it odd that any doctor would give the OK for an older mother to be so far on in pregnancy to fly first to New York for 5 days then back to London and 2 days later fly to Morocco.

by Anonymousreply 30February 19, 2019 12:27 AM

I hope she packed her best February-in-NY outfits.

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by Anonymousreply 31February 19, 2019 12:28 AM

She will be picking up the surrogate in New York, who will be under cover as a pregnant lady at the shower. The surrogate will be ensconced at the SoHo House Birthing Center awaiting lifelong pain and suffering.

by Anonymousreply 32February 19, 2019 12:32 AM

Thanks for all that info, R27. All the press announcements said UES, but of course they could be trying to throw paps off the scent.

by Anonymousreply 33February 19, 2019 12:36 AM

Someone on another thread said she was at the Carlyle but I was not them so cannot verify.

by Anonymousreply 34February 19, 2019 12:38 AM

You forgot to add r32 that Amal will be there to make sure all necessary legal documents are properly executed.

by Anonymousreply 35February 19, 2019 12:51 AM

Marriott Courtyard on East 92nd, across from the NYCHA ‘Isaacs Houses’ projects. Mark my words! They’ll be lots of flava in da house!

by Anonymousreply 36February 19, 2019 12:51 AM

If the NYC trip rumor is to be believed, I doubt Meghan would risk going if it weren't safe. She needs a safe, healthy, live birth more than she needs her next breath.

The woman is 7 months pregnant. She's not incapacitated. Women around the world with similar pregnancies hold down full-time jobs including travel. The DoC had a difficult first trimester for her pregnancies, but after that nothing prevented her from traveling. Kate did the Scandinavian trip last February at a similar point in her pregnancy. If the DoS is having an uncomplicated pregnancy then it would be generally medically safe for her to do a NYC trip followed by the Moroccan one. It will be interesting to see the itinerary for the Morocco trip to see if they're doing 2 full days of events. Given the cost to taxpayers, they should be busy for the entire trip.

by Anonymousreply 37February 19, 2019 1:00 AM

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by Anonymousreply 38February 19, 2019 1:15 AM

I thought for British royals with holidays abroad they relied on the beneficence of the ultra-rich in their circles who can provide them things like private transportation, luxurious accommodations--all the expensive accoutrement for which they are accustomed. So my question is, who paid for MEghan's gratuitous leisure flight to New York?

by Anonymousreply 39February 19, 2019 1:28 AM

Waiting for the DM to put up the price of all her clothes and the obligatory shopping section telling us we can get a knock off at Asos for £39.99.

by Anonymousreply 40February 19, 2019 1:33 AM

So Harry spent Valentine’s afternoon in the arctic circle, and Megan flew to NYC the very next day? Hardly a romantic Valentines for these two.

by Anonymousreply 41February 19, 2019 1:44 AM

Let’s watch ME!s curtsy to The King of Morocco and see if she fucks it up like she did The Queen of Tonga.

by Anonymousreply 42February 19, 2019 1:46 AM

Hmmm. So odd, even for Megs.

1) She was in NYC since Friday, but not until Monday did US Weekly reveal that she was there, because they had reports that someone spotted her out lunching . . . then within hours, Omid Scoobie confirmed, and the daily mail has pics . . . meaning that either the mail went on super high alert once they knew she was out and about in NYC to find pics of her, or this was all arranged to be released previously, and she did a pap-walk . . .

2) I am all for knocked-up ladies living their best lives as far into their pregnancy as they can, but for someone whose future security more-or-less depends on a healthy delivery, a transatlantic flight for a very frivolous reason (one indeed that is rather shunned by the institution she married into) is unusual, to say the least . . .

2) Somewhat possible this is not her . . . the hair is really straight for someone who is supposed to be avoiding treatments

by Anonymousreply 43February 19, 2019 1:51 AM

Question is, what hotel is it?

R43 - Any Rowenta will do the trick.

by Anonymousreply 44February 19, 2019 1:59 AM

The DM seems to have commissioned the photos. Usually the DM's photos come from the same image services that all the tabloids use and the tags say the name of service. These photos say "Shutter Up & Probe-Media for Dailymail.com." I suspect Meghan's team would rather walk across a lake of fire than collab with the DM on a pap stroll.

by Anonymousreply 45February 19, 2019 2:00 AM

The leaking of the original story to Harper Bazaar does sound like something out of Meghan's playbook.

by Anonymousreply 46February 19, 2019 2:07 AM

International travel is not recommended for women past 28 weeks. For a woman who is in her first pregnancy and a geriatric one at that, such a trip would be even less advised. What gives? As others have said, this is her meal ticket. Also, ever met a first-time pregnant woman? They're beyond cautious. Her 'friends' couldn't come to London? This is all bullshit and hopefully someday we get the whole story.

by Anonymousreply 47February 19, 2019 2:11 AM

I don't get what she's thinking. WHY?? -If she's getting baby stuff to merch, Mulroney could bring it to London -There is no fudging reason this woman needs a baby shower. None. She has all the stuff she could possibly want for sohobebe, including a 60 million dollar eco-friendly boiler or whatever. -I've never been pregnant, but from what I've heard from people I know who have, spending 5+ hrs immobile in a small seat twice in 5 days is not a fun thing to do (and then to repeat that in less than week for her Morocco trip) -What kind of "last hurrah" before parenthood can a hugely pregnant woman even have in NYC with only her girlfriends?

What could possibly be the motivation behind this trip?

by Anonymousreply 48February 19, 2019 2:21 AM

In the photo, it doesn’t look like her nose. The “ski jump” is missing.

Also, the hair looks like a VERY cheap (synthetic) wig.

by Anonymousreply 49February 19, 2019 2:22 AM

Also, to the person who compared this trip to Kate's to Norway: 1. it was her third pregnancy; 2. it was official business; and 3. the flightime from London to Oslo is 2 hours. It is not remotely the same situation.

by Anonymousreply 50February 19, 2019 2:22 AM

Agreed. Not her nose.

Real nose below.

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by Anonymousreply 52February 19, 2019 2:25 AM

R26, not to disagree, but I found the Diana scene to be rather moving. Of course, I never saw the whole play (or film).

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by Anonymousreply 53February 19, 2019 2:32 AM

Could someone pls catch me up on the curriculum issue? TIA.

by Anonymousreply 54February 19, 2019 2:39 AM

R50 before you clap back at something read the post in context. The reference to Kate was about gestational age not about the purpose of the trip.

For the average woman with an uncomplicated pregnancy, there is no undue concern for travel even after 28 weeks. Commercial airlines don't want to take women past 28 weeks because they don't want the risk of the woman going into labor. It's not about the flight being risky to mother and baby. It's that a birth on board would be disruptive. I doubt Meghan's doctor is posting on DL so it's unlikely that anyone here can say if she has particular complications in her pregnancy for certain. This is just my speculation based on pregnant women in general.

The point of the post was that pregnant women aren't somehow incapable of flying or working and that women of Meghan's age around the world with much more difficult circumstances do way more work and travel than she does without incident.

by Anonymousreply 55February 19, 2019 2:54 AM

Thanks R53, It definitely looks better on film and the Diana here is pretty good. I saw it on stage in LA, and it was ridiculous to me, a too-old blond woman flirting across the stage in what looked like a negligee. Didn’t evoke Diana at all.

by Anonymousreply 56February 19, 2019 2:59 AM

👆🏼Flitting not flirting. It was truly silly.

by Anonymousreply 57February 19, 2019 3:00 AM

You might be completely right R55 but when my sister was around 7 months, she was asked to fly for work and her doctor did not give her clearance. She had a very healthy pregnancy, no complications. So obviously there is some kind of risk involved, though I don't know enough to say what that might be.

by Anonymousreply 58February 19, 2019 3:35 AM

R58. Noted. Correction. No flight is risk free for mother and baby. R55 should say it is less about maternal health and more to do with "Which airline wants the fucking disruption of a birth on board? That plane is scheduled for a turnaround in 90 minutes. Who is going to clean up the amniotic fluid in the aisle? Eeew"

by Anonymousreply 59February 19, 2019 3:47 AM

R51 et al., I noticed right away that the nose was different. However, is it possible that Meghan has had a nose job within the past year to reduce the tip and bump, and we just hadn't noticed until now?

by Anonymousreply 60February 19, 2019 3:57 AM

Maybe it’s a body double or something, which explains the super straight hair?

by Anonymousreply 61February 19, 2019 4:01 AM

👆🏼Employed to distract from the real Meghan’s entrance through another door, something like that, I meant to add.

by Anonymousreply 62February 19, 2019 4:02 AM

Re Nosegate: Here is an ACU visit, which was relatively recent. Still looks kind of bumpy to me. I'm putting my crazy-frau-tin-hat-conspiracy-theory money on she's not there.

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by Anonymousreply 63February 19, 2019 4:15 AM

If that's a recent pic, R63, then I agree, there has been no nose job. That NYC photo wasn't of her. However, isn't the most reasonable explanation that, as R61 says, they used a body double to sneak her into the building unnoticed?

by Anonymousreply 64February 19, 2019 4:20 AM

[quote]International travel is not recommended for women past 28 weeks. For a woman who is in her first pregnancy and a geriatric one at that, such a trip would be even less advised. What gives?

Meghan is a narcissist who believes that she is special both in her constitution and abilities and is impervious to the complications that mere average human females of her age have with birth. Her personality disordered soul gives rise to the risky situation she thrust herself into. In her febrile mind, bad things don't happen to such specials as herself. They only happen to the "others."

by Anonymousreply 65February 19, 2019 4:24 AM

But which is more occams razory? Body double for someone who has seemingly just alerted the media that she was in NYC for no good reason (why does she need to have a baby shower in NYC with 15 randos? I mean 5 friends was a stretch to begin with. She had one friend at her wedding) and has never seemed to shun the limelight before OR Not in NYC to begin with but planted story to divert attention from "male pale and stale" story? (why that story is getting traction now of all times and with such an incendiary headline in the Times is another question)

by Anonymousreply 66February 19, 2019 4:26 AM

Oooh, okay, here I am going into real tumblerverse crazy territory . . . what if the plant is jessica mulroney? Some of the pics of the bodyguard show him carry a lululemon bag and an inexplicable tan coat . . . and we know RPOs don't tote luggage around . . .

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by Anonymousreply 67February 19, 2019 4:31 AM

As a reminder to those not so well versed about Meghan's incurable disorder and base needs that give rise to her inherent view that she is superior and therefore deserving of what she wants, needs, and desires. She's the dictionary definition of classic NPD. The MDs simply cannot tell her what to do because her special knowledge and abilities confer knowledge on her unavailable to the best versed and vaunted obstetricians

The DSM-5 indicates that persons with NPD usually display some or all of the following symptoms, typically without the commensurate qualities or accomplishments:[6][9]

-Grandiosity with expectations of superior treatment from other people

-Fixation on fantasies of power, success, intelligence, attractiveness, etc.

-Self-perception of being unique, superior, and associated with high-status people and institutions

-Need for continual admiration from others

-Sense of entitlement to special treatment and to obedience from others

-Exploitation of others to achieve personal gain

-Unwillingness to empathize with the feelings, wishes, and needs of other people

-Intense envy of others, and the belief that others are equally envious of them

-Pompous and arrogant demeanor

by Anonymousreply 68February 19, 2019 4:34 AM

I would bet everything I own that nanny Maria would never leave the Cambridges to work for the Sussexes and MM would be truly delusional if she tried to entice her. Apparently the Spanish nanny was very offended when MM berated her for Charlotte's behaviour at the bridesmaid dress fitting.

by Anonymousreply 69February 19, 2019 5:45 AM

Definitely not the same nose.

by Anonymousreply 70February 19, 2019 5:53 AM

R56. Thank you for your comment. I only learned about 'Charles III" from DL and have seen some scenes on YouTube. I really do think things will become very strange when HM is finally raptured. Every living person I've ever met has only experienced the same Queen. It's a shared experience, all over the world. The idea of someone taking her place makes me squirm. I always get 'Mary'ed when I mention on DL how devoted I am to her, but she's been the only source of continuity in my life. An example of dignity, and respect. The thought of that loss makes my head reel. I'm an American gay guy, BTW, so please stop with all the stupid frau comments. If I screw up something about how the Brits do things, I don't mind being corrected: I will try to learn from any corrections.

by Anonymousreply 71February 19, 2019 6:29 AM

I think Louis is going to grow up to be a handsome rapscallion along the lines of Jack Black Bouvier. He has a bit of far-off mischief in his dark eyes.

by Anonymousreply 72February 19, 2019 9:28 AM

I can see why her head of security quit. This chick papwalked for the DM, again. Her PR has gone of their way to say where she is staying, so even more press will come looking for her... she hopes.

by Anonymousreply 73February 19, 2019 9:30 AM

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by Anonymousreply 74February 19, 2019 9:35 AM

Sadly, Louis is likely to be the next Andy or Harry and Charlotte is likely to be the next Margaret. That is if the BRF survives....

by Anonymousreply 75February 19, 2019 9:46 AM

R74 A link to "The Conservative Woman" on DL? Really? Keep that out of here.

by Anonymousreply 76February 19, 2019 10:09 AM

That’s all you’ve got to rebut the article r76? Regardless of where the article was linked from you cannot deny the credentials of the author:

“Chris McGovern is the Chairman of the Campaign for Real Education. A retired head teacher with 35 years’ teaching experience, Chris is a former advisor to the Policy Unit at 10 Downing Street under two Prime Ministers.”

by Anonymousreply 77February 19, 2019 10:32 AM

R77 I refuse to read shit from far-right mags. If I were into the alt-right and pro-Trump I wouldn't be on the DL. If Chris McGovern has something useful to say, he shouldn't align himself with an alt-right pro-Trump site. That is one tainted well.

There's enough shit in the world. I don't need to willingly engage with the alt-right when I'm looking for gossip and bitchery on the BRF. Hard pass.

by Anonymousreply 78February 19, 2019 10:41 AM

UK Conservatives are about as right wing as the US Democratic party. The UK Tory party has been shown to be for a while even more left wing on some things than the Dems.

by Anonymousreply 79February 19, 2019 10:50 AM

BTW, at some point in the future Stephen Miller will be able to say he was policy advisor to a US president. That doesn't make him any less of a scumbag.

"The Conservative Woman is against the UK Conservative Party because it isn't conservative enough by TCW's estimation. That is a UK pro-Trump site.

by Anonymousreply 80February 19, 2019 10:53 AM

The get up in New York is the end of it. She's nothing but an attention whore who thinks she's a movie star. She's Duchess of Sussex and a member of the royal family. People want to take her picture. So she walks gracefully from a building to a vehicle and gets in. She doesn't need to try to cover up, slink about, try not to be noticed. She fully wants to be noticed. What a showboater. She's a disgrace.

by Anonymousreply 81February 19, 2019 11:26 AM

Exactly, R81. I’m so curious as to why Harry isn’t turned off by this behavior. I mean, he grew up in the BRF, where are his snobbish sensibilities?

by Anonymousreply 82February 19, 2019 11:29 AM

Does Harry not realize he's being used or does he just not care so long as he can stick it to his family?

by Anonymousreply 83February 19, 2019 11:41 AM

I think Harry's pride is stung. He thought he'd be so cool and clever marrying a hot Af-Am actress. Now he's the village idiot, viewed with pity and contempt.

by Anonymousreply 84February 19, 2019 12:13 PM

A hot Af-Am actress ? Not this one . That’s a bit overripe If your asking me !

by Anonymousreply 85February 19, 2019 12:38 PM

It will be interesting to see what additional pics come out of NY.

What if an American surrogate, contract executed in the US, just happens to give birth in the UK? Asking for a friend.

by Anonymousreply 86February 19, 2019 12:44 PM

R62 - I wondered the same thing - a decoy?

The DM has put up the cost of the Victoria Beckham coat, £2,230.

Meanwhile, during the Moroccan trip according to the DM Meghan will join a Moroccan cooking class and visit children having equine therapy, they will be met by the British Ambassador upon arrival, they will visit several schools, and on "Monday, the third and final day of their tour, will be spent meeting children with special need, before visiting a cooking demonstration, a traditional Moroccan arts and crafts display, and attending a horse grooming session at an equestrian facility."

This three-day schedule is so stuffed with low-profile "filler" events that it makes it obvious they are being gotten out of the way to stop Meghan going to to the Oscars. I'm sure there will be a reception of sorts where Meghan can dress up, but let us face it, the idea that all that taxpayer money for travel, security, and "clothing allowance" for the Duchess, for three days of minor tinsel events that no one will ever remember, that are attached to no major trade deal or coronation or treaty, and that moreover was drummed up quite suddenly, persuades me that the idea I at first pooh-poohed, has legs.

She probably took the trip to NYC as an antidote to being forced to smile and wave in a minor ME country bending down at 7 months pregnant to talk to kids when she could have been flying to L.A. to "visit her Mum" and making an unscheduled stop on the red carpet, for which she would undoubtedly have obtained a ticket.

by Anonymousreply 87February 19, 2019 12:49 PM

How do we know she's actually in NYC? To wear my tinhat for a moment, those pictures could be from almost any western city in the world.

by Anonymousreply 88February 19, 2019 12:58 PM

I doubt she’s over been to the Oscars before, why would she want to go now? How stupid is she? A European royal is supposed to be superior to Hollywood stars and their events.

by Anonymousreply 89February 19, 2019 1:09 PM

R89 - Of course she's never been to the Oscars before - she was a c-list nobody. Why would she want to go now? Really? You need to ask? It's the highest profile entertainment industry on the planet. She spent most of her adult life dreaming about going.

And everyone on that planet EXCEPT Meghan Markle understands that royalty should be above celebrity. She's an L.A. famewhore. She'd kill to be seen as a "special guest" on that red carpet. She had to be gnashing her teeth at those photos of her sister in law in a stunning elegant gown in the front row of the BAFTAS.

Sure, why in the world would Meghan Markle love to make a surprise appearance on the red carpet as a guest at the Oscars?

by Anonymousreply 90February 19, 2019 1:20 PM

Exactly R90. Even Oscar winner Grace Kelly pulled back from Hollywood, half of her own desire but also on command of the princely court when she started getting itchy to work again. The two roles just aren’t compatible and Meghan must think she’s going to bridge the gap somehow. Foolish foolish foolish.

by Anonymousreply 91February 19, 2019 1:23 PM

R84, I agree, Meghan was a cool package. I think her being a California girl, from hip showbiz LA, must also have been intriguing to Harry, in the same way an English accent is appealing to Americans. Has he ever even been there?

by Anonymousreply 92February 19, 2019 1:36 PM

This New York fun trip/baby shower was probably planned in conjunction with a follow-on to L.A. for the Oscars, that is until BP got wind of it and pencil-whipped a sudden Morocco trip onto the schedule.

by Anonymousreply 93February 19, 2019 1:50 PM

If Oscars are too trashy for a royal,why are the Cambridges involved with the Baftas?Sure Baftas are much more prestigious but it's still about awarding the entertainment business.How is that any different if the royals are supposed to be above the entertainers?Also why did the Queen meet Angelina Jolie?Or why did Diana dance with Travolta?Why did they invite celebs to royal weddings?

PS This is about "defending Meghan".I'm just curious.

by Anonymousreply 94February 19, 2019 1:53 PM

I meant this is NOT about defending Meghan,obviously.

by Anonymousreply 95February 19, 2019 1:58 PM

R94 - William is patron of the BAFTA's so he and Kate attend the ceremony.

The British royals have always "socialized" with people from the entertainment field to a degree.

by Anonymousreply 96February 19, 2019 2:04 PM

r94 BAFTA stands for British Academy of Film and Television Arts. William is promoting British Film & Television (and video games) in his role as Patron. He's promoting British talent, creativity and jobs. He is not promoting himself.

by Anonymousreply 97February 19, 2019 2:11 PM

Why would she go to the Oscars? She has never appeared in a movie of note, and she most likely never will. Does she think that suddenly all those people will be impressed with her?

by Anonymousreply 98February 19, 2019 2:18 PM

Also r94, The Queen met Angelina Jolie because Angelina received an honary honor (only Brits / Commonwealth citizens can get actual honors) for her humanitarian work including preventing sexual violence in war zones. In short the Queen met Jolie as part of doing her job. Diana danced with Travolta because the Regan's suggested it. She was at the Whitehouse on a visit to the US. promoting the UK and UK interests. It would have been churlish to refuse in front of the cameras. In short she was doing her job.

Moving to royal weddings, royals with the exception Meghan invite celebrities because they know them either through their job as working royals or because they are friends and move in the same circles. Meghan was the famewhore who invited a bunch of Alisters she had never met.

In the UK the royals have a constitutional role. Their job in the case of working royals is to support the monarch and promote UKplc. They receive taxpayer funding and are concious of fact the public does not like to seem them seeking fame, or spending extravagantly. The more they seek celebrity the more likely it is that a significantly section of the public will question why we have royals anyway and that will be the end of them.

by Anonymousreply 99February 19, 2019 2:25 PM

R98 - She's an attention whore. That's right, Meghan never appeared in any acting project of any substance. Yes, she thinks she's God's gift to the BRF and the world. I think I've answered all of your questions.

by Anonymousreply 100February 19, 2019 2:26 PM

“In the UK the royals have a constitutional role. Their job in the case of working royals is to support the monarch and promote UKplc. They receive taxpayer funding and are concious of fact the public does not like to seem them seeking fame, or spending extravagantly. The more they seek celebrity the more likely it is that a significantly section of the public will question why we have royals anyway and that will be the end of them.” Well said, and that last line is what I, as a lifelong fan of the Queen and the royal family, worry about. Yes I know they survived the Abdication and Diana etc, but I fear this social-media world is different, new territory.

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by Anonymousreply 105February 19, 2019 2:49 PM

MM's pet reporter Omid Scobie is reporting that not content with one "baby shower" Meghan is having two. One on each side of the atlantic.

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by Anonymousreply 106February 19, 2019 3:13 PM

Sarah will rise the Andrew connection until the day she dies

by Anonymousreply 107February 19, 2019 3:15 PM

*ride, not rise

by Anonymousreply 108February 19, 2019 3:15 PM

When I was in my second trimester my doctor told me to wear compression stockings for a flight from Europe to the US. I was not geriatric. There definitely is a risk involved.

by Anonymousreply 109February 19, 2019 3:18 PM

Does Omg Scabies give anyone else the creeps? I bet he dreams about breaking into her knicker drawer for a good sniff.

In the UK, women after 28 weeks need a signed doctor’s letter to say they’re safe to fly. That’s the requirement of the airlines...unless she flew privately, of course.

I bet she’s staying at Soho NY.

by Anonymousreply 110February 19, 2019 3:22 PM

Thomas Jnr is such a fucking arse-kisser.

by Anonymousreply 111February 19, 2019 3:24 PM

If Philip was going to be involved in a rollover incident, today would have been preferable if not to alleviate the headlines from all these MEghan "leaks" she is dropping.

And per Omid Scobie she is getting a second shower in London so Kate must have had to relent according to the blind from the pressure by family members (i.e. the village idiot and his tampon padre).

by Anonymousreply 112February 19, 2019 3:53 PM

Even Samantha's own mother said sam was always jealous of Meghan.

by Anonymousreply 113February 19, 2019 4:04 PM

The Markle clan constantly talking shit about each other is fascinating.

Pretty much all my family members despise each other, but I can’t imagine flapping my gums about them to the press. I don’t think any of us would.

Well, maybe my father’s second wife. She’s on her fourth marriage, hates my fathers family, batshit crazy, and a deplorable. Yeah, she might be Markle-ish.

by Anonymousreply 114February 19, 2019 4:24 PM

Princess Eugenie wishes her dad a Happy Birthday! The second photo of a young Andrew is stunning.

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by Anonymousreply 115February 19, 2019 5:01 PM

If the bit about the second baby shower is true, my guess is that it won't be Kate, but Amal Clooney who throws it. The custom just isn't done here, and as usual, blissfully impervious to "optics", the now-rich Meghan won't hesitate to increase the public's perception of her as a greedy famewhore if she can take home a pile of expensive presents from the Soho Farmhouse set.

She is so fundamentally dislikable.

by Anonymousreply 116February 19, 2019 5:02 PM

So it's The Mark Hotel and there are already photos of bags of goodies arriving - including a crib.

Man, she hasn't a clue about optics, does she? Kate bore the next heir to the throne without this kind public greed showing.

by Anonymousreply 117February 19, 2019 5:19 PM

R110 - Jesus, they're delivering an fucking orange tree to the shower at The Mark.

The DM, in its usual malicious fashion, is doing a slurpy gushing piece whose real outcome will be to show the British public just how pretentious, celebrity oriented, greedy, and shallow is their new Duchess - as Britain goes through one of the most uncertain economic periods in recent years.

You couldn't make it up.

by Anonymousreply 118February 19, 2019 5:22 PM

Prince Andrew squandered any potential he once had.

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by Anonymousreply 119February 19, 2019 5:22 PM

Happy Birthday to Prince Andrew.

by Anonymousreply 120February 19, 2019 5:24 PM

R120 - this is for YOU!

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by Anonymousreply 121February 19, 2019 5:25 PM

From CDAN "As I told you before, this alliterate former actress turned A+ list celebrity was going to have a baby shower no matter what. She couldn't have one in the country where she lives no matter how much she fought for it because they are frowned upon for her status in life, so she traveled thousands of miles for one. I'm sure part of the gifts will be all kinds of drugs for when she can take them after the birth."

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by Anonymousreply 122February 19, 2019 5:26 PM

Ugh, maybe her idol is Marie Antoinette? Does she not realize how the UK is suffering (admittedly brought upon themselves) from Brexit now and how much worse it will be in a few short weeks?

by Anonymousreply 123February 19, 2019 5:27 PM

The Morocco trip itinerary.

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by Anonymousreply 124February 19, 2019 5:29 PM

And of course she is in black. Of course.

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by Anonymousreply 125February 19, 2019 5:33 PM

Hello Magazine has got a live blog going. We see pictures of the crib she's been gifted.

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by Anonymousreply 126February 19, 2019 5:35 PM

The Duchess of Conspicuous Consumption. Her Majest will NOT be amused.

by Anonymousreply 127February 19, 2019 5:37 PM

^ Majesty

by Anonymousreply 128February 19, 2019 5:37 PM

The Kate Stans are the royal version of Janbots...so pitiful, yet so funny. Kate was pretty much a drunken whore for most of her university time, yet they stay silent about it, or in ways that would even impress Sarah Huckabee Sanders, find a way to justify her trollop years. Despite them being well documented. Kate was a whore, now she has a wedding ring. Her career was being a bedwarmer for a prince. But Meghan is the bad one....the mind boggles.

by Anonymousreply 129February 19, 2019 5:43 PM

Her Majesty is still working!

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by Anonymousreply 130February 19, 2019 5:45 PM

Um, isn't everyone a drunken whore during university? Besides, who has she ever been with besides her husband? What's left to say?

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by Anonymousreply 132February 19, 2019 5:46 PM

Nutmeg just can't seem to dress herself.

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by Anonymousreply 133February 19, 2019 5:47 PM

If she hates being hounded by the press, then why did she make it so obvious where she was? You're telling me that she couldn't have had this out in the Hamptons or some other private location? Bullshit, pure bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 134February 19, 2019 5:48 PM

Gosh, I would think that the Queen would have all sorts of great baby stuff like cribs, prams etc...in storage for Meghan. But of course, the trollop wants the latest and trendiest in all baby things so the old stuff wouldn't be good enough for her.

by Anonymousreply 135February 19, 2019 5:50 PM

It‘s probably more expensive shipping the gifts back than just buying them in England 🙄

by Anonymousreply 136February 19, 2019 5:52 PM

Has anyone seen Jessica Mulroney yet?

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by Anonymousreply 137February 19, 2019 5:53 PM

R131 but not Kate...she farted rainbows as far as you idiots are concerned.

by Anonymousreply 138February 19, 2019 5:54 PM

#SoShySoRegal

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by Anonymousreply 139February 19, 2019 5:55 PM

The party's begun!

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by Anonymousreply 140February 19, 2019 5:56 PM

The Tig's all here!

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by Anonymousreply 141February 19, 2019 5:56 PM

R136 - I'm sure all of the new stuff will all fit on her private plane.

by Anonymousreply 142February 19, 2019 5:58 PM

Papwalking like a Pro!

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by Anonymousreply 143February 19, 2019 5:59 PM

You want to have a laugh? Google articles from two years ago on Keen K and read the comments.

On the fail, I clicked on one profile that said something nice about the keen one and her archive from less than 2 years ago on kate was hilarious. Complaining about Kate's dusty wiglet, and how her short legs were photoshopped longer on the fail, how her wrinkles and droopy face were disgusting hence her smiling like the mad grinch to lift her face because it was falling apart according to the revisionist...how she was lazy doolittle, how manly her body was, how her lower legs and calves were thicker than her thighs, that she used a surrogate, that she had to starve herself to get a skinny body, how her family were low class grifters and an embarrassment, how she used blush to mimic Diana's natural rosey skin, how sallow her skin was and implication it was because her jewish ancestry (goldsmith), how she was a flasher and exhibitionist ..I mean awful stuff. So funny how the tone changed so quickly. She was never called an english rose or regal lol

by Anonymousreply 144February 19, 2019 6:05 PM

A legitimate humanitarian at her income level would have released something about how fortunate she and this baby are and requested donations to the women organizations she cares so much about in lieu of anything for her.

Even if she wanted the “shower” experience, she could have had a party where she made it clear they’re mostly just gathering for friendship and games and all guests have been asked to bring gifts which will then be donated to “x” women’s shelter.

by Anonymousreply 145February 19, 2019 6:06 PM

So, we've got this, Morocco, the Lindo Wing, the christening... then MM's done and gone. Some folks on here think she'll be around for at least 5 years. I think she's not going to be able to handle the attention naturally fading from. A second pregnancy just doesn't garner the same attention. What else is left? Maybe a messy divorce, but otherwise she is running out of cards to play.

by Anonymousreply 146February 19, 2019 6:08 PM

And the BRF is tolerating this ? Its mindboggling the things she can get away with . So she knows some secrets regarding PH .

by Anonymousreply 147February 19, 2019 6:16 PM

What can they do though? They've sidelined her and handbag, moved them out to the country and given her enough rope to hang herself with in the court of public opinion.

by Anonymousreply 148February 19, 2019 6:23 PM

Stunts like this really make me believe that Meghan's not in it for the long-haul. She doesn't give a shit what the BRF or the British Public thinks because she doesn't plan to stick around long enough to see real fallout from her actions. She's gone within 2 years, with a Royal baby and global name recognition that she can parlay into a successful lifestyle brand and perhaps an incredibly rich third marriage. I'm not even sure a second Royal baby is a guarantee. Why risk her figure when one baby is plenty good enough as a hostage to fortune? She'd only need the second one if she was planning to stay in the BRF, and she's clearly not.

by Anonymousreply 149February 19, 2019 6:23 PM

Oh, Meghan. Gurl, no. Who does this?

by Anonymousreply 150February 19, 2019 6:39 PM

She really has no concern for her safety does she? So keen to be at the centre of a media storm, with global fame. That she is giving the media a minute by minute update on her activities. She should be very careful what she wishes for. I think ultimately she will turn into what Diana would have done if she lived - a desperately unhappy person, never satisfied with what they have and used by the press as a whipping boy. Many forget that the press had turned before Diana's death, she had her stans but most were tired of her antics.

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by Anonymousreply 151February 19, 2019 6:39 PM

R131 - Save your breath. The Kate Haters will never admit that Kate was pretty much typical of a girl of her class at uni, and that the "drunken whore" got a respectable degree, and they can't come up with anyone but William that she was whoring with.

Meghan Markle and her celebrity conspicuous consumption party in Manhattan will do absolutely nothing for what is left of her image in the UK.

One thing you can say about Kate: she knows how to adapt to changed circumstances. She kept her legs open for William, kept her mouth shut to the press, and once inside the gates, learned fast.

Meghan Markle opened her legs for anyone who could get her somewhere, opened her mouth to the press, and hasn't evidenced the slightest ability to adapt.

by Anonymousreply 152February 19, 2019 6:53 PM

Assuming it’s a girl, will Meghan be a Kris Jenner type mother? Always pointing out flaws, encouraging plastic surgery, your worth is how hot you are. Or will she be the Angelina type who makes every attempt to downplay her daughter’s beauty, never wanting the competition.

by Anonymousreply 153February 19, 2019 6:53 PM

R13 8 - Oh get over it. Kate's handled her royal role quite well. And if she looks like she's farting rainbows now, you can thank Meghan Markle for it.

by Anonymousreply 154February 19, 2019 6:55 PM

Yes, but Meghan is taken to task for her own allegedly shady past. But Kate’s behavior is justified. I can see this shit for what it is...double standards.

Kate engaged in behavior that should not be in the past of the future Queen consort of Great Britain.

by Anonymousreply 155February 19, 2019 6:57 PM

I actually respect Kate more to think she partied like one would at university. Makes her more relatable. Was not a Kate fan before but she has proven herself worthy of her role.

by Anonymousreply 156February 19, 2019 6:57 PM

Kate did normal college partying. Her only serious boyfriend was William, and if she was photographed coming tipsy out of a few nightclubs, so what?

I'm not saying Meghan was a streetwalker, but to say that Kate has a shady past is silly.

by Anonymousreply 157February 19, 2019 6:59 PM

Hypocrite r156

by Anonymousreply 158February 19, 2019 6:59 PM

Whereas just when you think this common skank Harry married could not get more greedy with the gimme gimme gimme, she's gonna lower herself further yet with a 'hold my beer.'

by Anonymousreply 159February 19, 2019 7:00 PM

Bless your heart R158

[italic]Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something.[/italic]

by Anonymousreply 160February 19, 2019 7:01 PM

I imagine Dimwit has shared a lot of family secrets with her that he and BRF will pay quite a ransom for when the divorce hits.

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by Anonymousreply 162February 19, 2019 7:08 PM

The two most visible, gaudy baby showers ever held--Andy Cohen and Meghan. Doesn't The Mark have a delivery door for all of that stuff? It appears it is being delivered directly to the front of the hotel. The Darfur Orphan must be beside himself--understandably.

by Anonymousreply 163February 19, 2019 7:09 PM

If Meghan's planning to exit in the next 18-24 months, then all this bad publicity is part of the narrative. She can leave Harry, citing irreconcilable differences brought about by the global feeding frenzy and massive unfair disapproval of her, when she was just trying to live her truth, be her best self, etc. She'll leave as fast as Queenie signs the check, but she'll always play the martyr game, swearing she was pushed out.

by Anonymousreply 164February 19, 2019 7:12 PM

"Astonishing that the Duchess of Sussex seems to be organising her own PR in New York with a fixed point for media and nobody from the palace there. This is how Charles and others used to organise things on ski trips in the dim and distant past before armies of press officers." Seems like she has no palace PR with her, which would fit a private visit. I wonder who is picking up the tab for all of this.

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by Anonymousreply 165February 19, 2019 7:16 PM

When I see European teeth I dont feel so bad about my own.

by Anonymousreply 166February 19, 2019 7:32 PM

I dislike both Kate and Meghan, but this shower is even tackier than the Middletons...so bougie. I saw a picture of Abigail Spencer arriving with a giant cardboard box containing a crib. I understand small, personal gifts from a few select friends but a mass produced crib, does Meghan have a Babies r Us registry?

by Anonymousreply 167February 19, 2019 7:48 PM

R163 Hotels and such always have a "service entrance"

R155 Was William supposed to find a quiet aristocratic virgin? That didn't work out well for Dad.

by Anonymousreply 168February 19, 2019 7:50 PM

William did one better--he found a quiet Home Counties girl with rich parents and deflowered her almost a decade before the wedding.

by Anonymousreply 169February 19, 2019 7:52 PM

R155 If Meghan was doing it right, you’d not be hearing how saintly Kate is. They’d be equally put in the mud. Memories are short though and right now, Kate finally being in a comfortable place magnifies how poorly MM is adjusting.

by Anonymousreply 170February 19, 2019 7:54 PM

The BRF wants Meghan to do well. They have everything to gain by her coming on board as a polished representative of the family in the 21st century and everything to lose if it fails. If she doesn’t work out, worst case for her - she lives a real housewives style existence. The BRF on the other hand, risks a lot - not welcoming, old racists, they “Diana-Ed” her, dampening her feminist spirit, etc. MM really has the upper hand in all this.

by Anonymousreply 171February 19, 2019 7:54 PM

R164, Dream on! Fat chance of that happening...she loves the attention too much!

by Anonymousreply 172February 19, 2019 7:55 PM

No one in this day and age in western culture expects a royal bride to be virginal, that’s ludicrous. (Now one could very well be a virgin upon betrothal. It’s just not the expectation.)

The fact of the matter is, so what if Kate *may* have partied to excess in university (although I have seen no evidence there was any such thing).

Here’s another queen consort-in-waiting to consider: Mette Marit, the Crown Princess of Norway. She was a notorious raver, probable drug user, had a child out of wedlock, a boyfriend who was a drug dealer… you get the jist. Then there is Sophie who married Prince Carl Philip of Sweden. Also of questionable background who had posed suggestively in mens magazines and appeared on reality tv (in one of her notable events she kissed Jenna Jameson for the cameras in Vegas).

The difference is, once they marry in, they comport themselves with dignity and modesty as befits their station. Kate has more than proved her moxie. Not a peep of scandal amidst a sea of reportedly blissful domesticity to the point of being called boring. Mette-Marit and Sophie both also surprisingly settled into their roles quietly.

HOWEVER, since the village idiot put the proverbial ring on it, MEga has only magnified her trash cred and tacky quotient. She creates chaos in her wake and damages once dear family relationships. She shamelessly goes after press attention at whatever expense which only serves to further her unrelenting thirst for celebrity and A-List prestige.

Are we for certain she isn’t a Kardashian by a different mother?

by Anonymousreply 173February 19, 2019 8:09 PM

No, r173, they are far too classy for her to be one of their clan. I wouldn't have believed it but Sparkles makes them look classy. It certainly shows that it takes brains and opportunity to build their billion dollar empire.

In other news her stans have been having a go at Meghan's Mirror, the website that always seems to know what she's wearing before anyone else, about posting the baby shower stuff. Their response is they've learned that the baby shower was planned to have a public photography element to it.

Wow. Just wow. I get calling the paps for your thing but planning your thing around paps? Wow. There are some issues right there.

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by Anonymousreply 174February 19, 2019 8:28 PM

R174 go wash your mouth out.

[quote] No, they are far too classy for her to be one of their clan. I wouldn't have believed it but Sparkles makes them look classy. It certainly shows that it takes brains and opportunity to build their billion dollar empire.

by Anonymousreply 175February 19, 2019 8:31 PM

MM is gadding about in NY and getting lots of presents which will be shipped back to London with the most cursory checks at customs. And you think anyone will check her purse, her carry on? She's carrying drugs or cash. Plain as the nose on her face.

Sounds crazy but its an old school trick to have drugs and cash carried by celebs that just get waved through the lines.

by Anonymousreply 176February 19, 2019 8:37 PM

I was watching some season 7 “Suits” episodes, and in some of the scenes MM looks positively wasted on something. Disheveled, makeup smeared under her eyes, dark circles. This would have been during the time she and Dim were “courting.” Would hate to think she uses drugs during pregnancy. That turns good gossip to sad.

by Anonymousreply 177February 19, 2019 8:45 PM

At this rate I'm of the mind the BRF is purposely handing MEga as much rope as it takes for there to be no doubt in the end.

by Anonymousreply 178February 19, 2019 8:52 PM

These pap shots remind me of those Britney Spears photos back when she was losing her mind. Both are so aggressively trashy and clueless, plus they both had cheap synthetic wigs! Sure, Britney’s was pink, but you get me.

by Anonymousreply 179February 19, 2019 9:03 PM

Of course this also reminds me of Trump, with all the “THIS TIME she’s gone too far! What will happen next?!?!”

by Anonymousreply 180February 19, 2019 9:04 PM

[quote]And the BRF is tolerating this ? Its mindboggling the things she can get away with . So she knows some secrets regarding PH .

[quote]What can they do though? They've sidelined her and handbag, moved them out to the country and given her enough rope to hang herself with in the court of public opinion.

Did anyone watch [italic]Margaret: The Rebel Princess[/italic] which was shown on PBS over the last two weeks? The parallels between her and Harry and the palace's reactions to their shenanigans are pretty striking.

The '65 trip to the U.S. was regarded by many to be a long, taxpayer funded, booze-soaked party that gave her the opportunity to rub elbows with VIPS and celebrities. It simply wasn't apparent how the Snowdens were promoting British interests. The junket ushered in the first questions about taxpayers financing lavish lifestyles for royals. But she still had goodwill from the public lingering from her broken relationship with the divorced Peter Townsend as she "gave up" the "man she loved" and, while it's unclear if they knew Snowden was such a lothario, they did feel sorry for her because she was increasingly unaccompanied by him at public engagements. Then came Mustique, Roddy Llewellyn and the island party lifestyle that precluded performing her royal duties. Then poof, they sympathy was gone. Her 55k yearly allowance (1.1M in today's pounds) was publicly questioned much to her "poor me" distress.

Yet, the palace didn't do anything to attempt to curb her behavior and restrain her worst impulses. The '60s and '70s journos who commented on the show said that it was plainly evident there was nothing that could be done. What could HM do? Lock her sister in the tower? Revoke her passport? They just had to let her reach the end of her rope with all of it.

by Anonymousreply 181February 19, 2019 9:08 PM

Isn't today a culmination of sorts for MM, sizeable pap attention in a major pap market, an Angie like mayhem outside a chic hotel with security clearing the way for the demure bump-cradling royal celeb?

The sunglasses are a bonus. The royal wedding was nice, but this is NYC y'all.

I am disappointed though with her bag, Kim would not be impressed.

by Anonymousreply 182February 19, 2019 9:08 PM

LOL R180 as much of a mess Meghan is, the consequences of her actions are nothing compared to The Orange Asshat

by Anonymousreply 183February 19, 2019 9:13 PM

R155 - You know, they already did the Virgin English Rose. Didn't work out so well. Perhaps a more realistic future Queen Consort (whose whoring mostly consisted of sleeping with her future husband) who was actually representative of real life in the 21st century was a better bet. And you know - she HAS turned out to be the better bet. Diana started ruining Charles's life the moment the ring was on her finger. Kate, however, has matured into a proper wife mother and duchess.

You didn't see her coming in and out of a baby shower at a luxury hotel lapping up the photogs and attention, did you, when she gave birth to the next Heir?

Meghan Markle, on the other hand, had been and still is several kinds of whore - starting with fame and limelight.

by Anonymousreply 184February 19, 2019 9:15 PM

Oh, The Mark is a hotel! When I saw 'The Mark' I genuinely thought it referred to Prince Harry.

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by Anonymousreply 186February 19, 2019 9:30 PM

Doria was only needed to look dignified at the wedding and give Meghan some semblance of family there. She might be trotted out at Baby Sussex's christening, but I wouldn't even count on that. Bye Bye, Doria.

by Anonymousreply 187February 19, 2019 9:31 PM

[quote]Kate engaged in behavior that should not be in the past of the future Queen consort of Great Britain.

What behavior on Kate's part was so objectionable as to preclude marriage into a family that includes or included:

Prince Andrew (Jeffrey Epstein's provision underage tail);

Prince Charles ("I wanna be your tampon");

Princess Diana (multiple carnal liaisons with married men and telephone harassment of their families);

Prince Philip (casual racism);

Princess Margaret (booze hound ways, swinging '60s & '70s adultery);

Queen Victoria (gluttony),

George IV (lust, dipsomania, drug abuse)?

by Anonymousreply 188February 19, 2019 9:34 PM

R188 - You forgot Edward VII's many mistresses - including Camilla's great-grandmother, Alice Keppel, who sniffed as the Abdication Crisis unfolded, "Things were done better in my day!"

by Anonymousreply 189February 19, 2019 9:57 PM

Fergie got to fuck Andrew in his prime. Lucky bitch.

by Anonymousreply 190February 19, 2019 10:07 PM

Hmm, going by this Meghan seems to have had only two "friends" arrive so far.

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by Anonymousreply 191February 19, 2019 10:25 PM

[quote]The Mark have a delivery door for all of that stuff? It appears it is being delivered directly to the front of the hotel.

More importantly and to the point, directly in front of the cameras.

by Anonymousreply 192February 19, 2019 10:34 PM

R189 - Totally forgot about Edward VII. He was so obese that he needed specialized furniture to facilitate his liaisons:

The Love chair (French Siege d'amour) was a device created by a French furniture manufacturer in the early 20th century to allow the corpulent British King Edward VII to have sex with two or more women simultaneously.[1][2]

The chair was first created by the Soubrier furniture manufacturer, which has now (as of 2018) become the current owner of the device. The King's waist measured 48 inches (122 cm) shortly before his coronation[3] at which point the practice of visiting brothels may have stopped.[4] Prior to this, however, the King was a regular visitor at Le Chabanais in Paris, a French brothel, and the chair was designed specifically for the King's visits there. The chair allowed him to indulge his sexual fantasies without crushing his female partners.

by Anonymousreply 193February 19, 2019 10:36 PM

Did anyone read the Daily Mail's first article yesterday about the shower? Buried in it was a list of MeAgain's favorite spots in New York. Among them were Fedora's and Marie's Crisis.

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by Anonymousreply 195February 19, 2019 10:43 PM

R193 - LOL - I thought it was something more along the lines of a gynecological exam table. And also add to the list of royals who behaved unroyally: Edward's heir, Edward, Duke of Clarence, whose early death put the far more well behaved George V and Queen Mary on the throne. Eddie's peccadilloes included drugs, houses of ill repute, and he was at one time I believe considered one of the possibles for Jack the Ripper.

Then there was George, Duke of Kent, the Duke of Windsor's youngest brother, who was alleged to be bisexual and got into drug addition, which his oldest brother allegedly pulled him out of.

A bit of high living by a middle-class girl at uni seems quite pale by comparison.

by Anonymousreply 196February 19, 2019 10:46 PM

I know there are drugs everywhere, especially with the wealthy, but if all these women are such junkies, how are they having healthy babies?

The average Jane addict doesn’t usually stop for her pregnancy and then start back, you usually have babies born with addiction, etc.

Is it that rich people’s drugs, like coke, are less damaging in utero? Less likely to show up?

It seems unlikely that some special celebrity talent makes it easy for them to spend nine months sober when most addicts cannot.

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by Anonymousreply 199February 19, 2019 11:19 PM

[quote]"As I told you before, this alliterate former actress turned A+ list celebrity

Best.irony.ever.

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by Anonymousreply 201February 19, 2019 11:40 PM

The clip makes the Diana stuff look more haunting and sensitive than it is. As with Camilla in this play, she's played cynically. She's a divisive person/ghost who tells Charles and William, separately, that they'll be the greatest king England has ever seen. I never got the impression either believed her, just that the main message of Diana was having her around could be torture and having her as a ghost could be torture, because she never stopped being dramatic. I think the audience is cued not to believe anything she says, that her default is to stir the shit, and both William and Charles know this, and it's eternally (literally) exhausting. The ghost gimmick does her no favors. It even gets laughs when her ghostly voice rings out with yet another remark meant to stick a prong into whomever she's aiming it towards - William or Charles. And basically in the play she's there just to help muddle things up when Charles is already muddled.

William and Kate are portrayed as sort of cynical corporate types, definitely. They're media savvy, believe getting "column inches" is how the game is played and what keeps the royals relevant and it's what gives them whatever soft power the BRF possesses. All of Charles' agonizing seems out of date to them. Finally he crosses a line. A bill has been passed censoring the press even more stringently and Charles decides to "veto" it, which, cosmetically, he can, but the reality is, he can't because it's well known that no matter what's in some historic document, the monarch's power is symbolic and cosmetic only. This situation causes William and Kate to pressure his resignation. You get the idea that during THEIR reign things like social media will be on point, Kate will know exactly when to get out there and fling her hair, and in the game of survival, Kate and William totally are not pushing against the tide. The problem is I think it got every major BRF personality wrong except for parts of Charles.

by Anonymousreply 202February 20, 2019 12:23 AM

I’ll admit I envy Meghan. Imagine leaving your home country a relative nobody and returning in triumph, with a royal title and money to spend. I would want to lord it up in front of my friends too.

by Anonymousreply 203February 20, 2019 12:26 AM

The DM has huge photos up of Meghan and Serena and Jessica heading out to a "Swanky" New York restaurant for dinner after the shower, surrounded by the paps. At every possible turn the DM has trumpted the words "luxury" "swanky", etc., and the photos in an interesting way show us the Real Meghan: luxury loving, surrounded by celebrity pals, camera lights flashing as she clutches her $1200 handbag - the photos show how much more in her element Meghan looks as a NY socialite than a British royal. It's too bad it took the dreary task of pretending to be a British royal to turn Meghan into who she really wants to be underneath it all.

I wonder if the subliminal message is getting across in Britain and to the BRF?

by Anonymousreply 204February 20, 2019 12:26 AM

She is TOTALLY in her element, glammed up, relaxed, beaming, hair looks great (she probably “saved it up” just for this night). Now she just needs to get to LA.

by Anonymousreply 205February 20, 2019 12:39 AM

R202 I agree they did not capture the personalities other than maybe Charles. I saw the play before this whole Harry matter caused me to revisit the royal family and reassess its members today. I’d like to see it again, I feel like I might look at it differently. At the time I left annoyed, feeling it made the characters look cheap, no dignity or polish at all.

by Anonymousreply 206February 20, 2019 12:44 AM

Where's this guy when you need him?

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by Anonymousreply 207February 20, 2019 12:50 AM

Anyone else notice the total absence of Doria Ragland at her only daughter's first baby shower?

And that Meghan, although in the US, is going to head back to the UK at the end of the week without so much as visiting her mother?

This bitch really does take the cake. I hope the posters claiming she doesn't give a fuck because she's planning to exit as soon as she can are right. Because the BRF taking it up the arse from this grinning golddigger for the foreseeable lends an End of Days aura to the whole thing.

They should be playing Ravel's "La Valse" with its undertow of voluptuous corruption.

by Anonymousreply 208February 20, 2019 1:06 AM

It's just so strange. They could have found a place just outside of the city, out in the Hamptons or in southern CT or up near Bedford - all perfectly nice places, luxurious yet providing total privacy like this pap trap event in Manhattan. They could have rented out a private home or something, or used someone's, had their gathering party and no one would know better. This was so conspicuous you could see it from space. She and her group wanted the attention.

The absence of her mother from this circus kind of confirms what its supposed to be. A circus, not a private fun baby shower with friends.

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by Anonymousreply 210February 20, 2019 1:20 AM

I feel bad for Meghan. Everybody hates her gor wanting a baby shower. She would have one if she stayed with her first husband, why should she miss it for marrying Harry? Good thing he clearly loves her and stands up for her. Say what you will, I think he knew what he was doing when he married Meghan. He wanted as much of a departure from the royal life as possible while staying royal. Admit it, Meghan and Harry live the life everybody dreams of living. Would you rather vacation with the glamorous Clooneys in Italy or dreary old Liz in Balmoral? Nobody wants to be Will and Kate. Even Will and Kate don’t want to do it, that’s why they are such a sourpisses all the time. I bet even if it’s true that Meghan and Kate had a falling out early on, it was probably frustrated Kate throwing a fit over Meghan getting to do whatever the fuck she wanted. “You think *I* didn’t want to say: ‘To hell with everything?’ Suck it up, you bitch” And Meghan cool as a cucumber: “Don’t wanna.”

by Anonymousreply 211February 20, 2019 1:23 AM

If that’s the life they want then they should give up the taxpayer funded perks. You can’t have both.

by Anonymousreply 212February 20, 2019 1:35 AM

Show me anyone who ever said “I barely do any work, I don’t deserve such a big paycheck”, R212.

by Anonymousreply 213February 20, 2019 1:37 AM

As I recall, MEghan most certainly did not get a particular tiara she demanded.

by Anonymousreply 214February 20, 2019 1:40 AM

R193's Siege d'amour (I had to Google it to try to understand it, since I don't know much about heterosexual sex). Even when I first saw the chair, I couldn't imagine how it was used, until I came across this sketch.

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by Anonymousreply 215February 20, 2019 1:42 AM

It’s kind of sad that the sex chair is languishing in a warehouse.

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by Anonymousreply 216February 20, 2019 2:49 AM

R216, Thanks, that was fabulous?

by Anonymousreply 217February 20, 2019 2:59 AM

That was meant as an exclamation mark, not a question mark.

by Anonymousreply 218February 20, 2019 3:00 AM

[QUOTE] Here’s another queen consort-in-waiting to consider: Mette Marit, the Crown Princess of Norway.

Unfortunately CP Mette Marit will be dead of her tragic uncureable lung disease by the time her husband succeeds the throne. But yes, she and Sophie of Sweden put their wild pasts behind them and almost immediately snapped into formation with the other royal ladies of their courts. ME will never ever get it.

by Anonymousreply 219February 20, 2019 3:07 AM

R219 i've had patients with her lung disease, its an AWFUL way to die. just horrible.

by Anonymousreply 220February 20, 2019 3:09 AM

[QUOTE] or dreary old Liz in Balmoral?

I’d much rather the fresh cool air, and the Germanic schloss style, and gin and tonics at 3pm

by Anonymousreply 221February 20, 2019 3:10 AM

Yes m R220, it sounds awful. The lungs will die and the heart will fail and while it’s happening the victim will fill up with fluid and drown and suffocate.

by Anonymousreply 222February 20, 2019 3:14 AM

Harry is busy with whores and ex gfs while the wifey is away...

by Anonymousreply 223February 20, 2019 3:55 AM

Markus returns!

Serena and MeAgain share a PR firm, making their friendship possibly less than organic.

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by Anonymousreply 224February 20, 2019 4:05 AM

The weirdo was clawing at her abdomen again, I thought she gave that up at her previous appearance (in the white coat). She looks like an insane person.

by Anonymousreply 225February 20, 2019 4:50 AM

How wise is it to be seen as close friend of Serena? The British people were some of the most vehement critics of Serena when her tacky, abusive, and race-baiting outburst at the U.S. Open went viral. Almost all the comments on British newspaper websites were against Serena. Serena herself is also a fame whore user of social media, especially Instagram where she posts photos of her daughter ad nauseam. She also says patronizing shit like how hard it is to be a working mom. Remember this is the same Serena who said Kate was the world' most badass woman for being the mom of 3 kids. But now I guess she'll have to alter that for her new bestie who happens to share same PR firm, and who happens to not get along with Kate.

by Anonymousreply 226February 20, 2019 5:19 AM

If I were Meghan's Kensington Palace PR I would quit after she gets back from this taxpayer-funded jaunt for an event that the Royal family women aren't supposed to take part in anyway (gifting parties). It's really not a good look, after a long series of Really Not Good Looks. Even if she were the best client in the world (word is she is very much not that), I'd be looking at my options if I worked in her PR office. She is the protocol car crash that never seems to end.

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by Anonymousreply 228February 20, 2019 6:53 AM

I think she’s gone rogue. It started with the stupid avocado toast pics, followed by the “friends” talking to People now the paps know which restaurants she’s going to on her “secret” NYC trip.

She didn’t marry Harry to hide in the Cotswolds and pretend to be humble. She wanted glamour & attention so she’s clearly ignoring all and any advice and doing whatever the fuck she likes.

The best thing about all this is the certain knowledge the HM & the rest of the family will be seriously appalled & Harry will be feeling embarrassed. People keep saying that he wanted to be a celeb all along but I think that’s only partly true. He had 33 years pre-Meghan trying to keep his private life underwraps, why would he suddenly do an about face now?

He’s also not quite so stupid as to think you can complain about press intrusion then invite the paps to follow you around New York.

I give this marriage another year. She doesn’t need Harry anymore...she’s got the wedding, baby and worldwide fame, which is all she actually wanted. She clearly doesn’t give a flying fuck about the royal family, so why should she hang around pretending to care about poor people?

She really is a monumental cunt, isn’t she?! Far worse than I ever imagined.

by Anonymousreply 229February 20, 2019 7:51 AM

This spectacle really is tacky and bizarre. Worst of all it highlights that’s she still very Z list without Harry. She really should have postponed her return until it was on a royal visit with all the pageantry. This chick is going to get frozen out of the Firm ASAP. The air of desperation suggests she already knows her days are numbered.

by Anonymousreply 230February 20, 2019 8:23 AM

The royals are not supposed to accept gifts,OK but what happens at birthday parties and Chritmas?For instance,Kate's friends can't give her a present for her birthday,right?What about Carole or Pippa,they can't give a birthday gift to the kids?

by Anonymousreply 231February 20, 2019 8:47 AM

Royals can accept gifts. However there is a gifting policy in place I believe. It is likely to be similar to the one for Civil Servants which basically says "The Code states that: civil servants must not accept gifts or hospitality or receive other benefits from anyone which might reasonably be seen to compromise their personal judgement or integrity." So family gifts are fine, gifts from KimK of her new clothing line not so much.

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by Anonymousreply 232February 20, 2019 8:59 AM

Interesting how MM managed to not look 18 months pregnant for her “chic” evening on the town.

She’s been tottering around looking like a parade float for the past several months, now she manages to look pretty normal when she wants to.

But why oh why is she wearing that cheap plastic wig?! It hurts me.

by Anonymousreply 233February 20, 2019 9:40 AM

I would rather walk a dog than be present at that shitstorm in New York .

by Anonymousreply 234February 20, 2019 10:15 AM

Her belly is not that protudant as in other pics a while ago .Maybe she is pregnant herself but I don’t think that she is . She has chosen a smaller bump for thonight s outing .and her good friend Markus is there also .

by Anonymousreply 235February 20, 2019 10:23 AM

Yes, R229, I’m sure Harry will be embarrassed by his wife having dinner with friends in New York.

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by Anonymousreply 236February 20, 2019 10:31 AM

His wife is not just having “dinner with friends in New York”. She has invited the paps along. Harry has never invited photographers along to witness his private life.

Ffs...sugar off, will you?!

by Anonymousreply 237February 20, 2019 11:18 AM

They.re all from the same PR firm her “friends”

by Anonymousreply 238February 20, 2019 11:22 AM

Maybe she’s giving the gifts to charity? Why would a princess from a wealthy monarchy need a baby crib? Now that shit has to be packed and sent overseas on the taxpayers dime. What. A. Disaster.

by Anonymousreply 239February 20, 2019 11:49 AM

If this was a normal outing with friends to catch up,have a good time and celebrate the baby,nobody would care.What's more normal than celebrating with loved ones?She's not a prisoner and she's allowed to have a life.But we all know that her agenda is quite different.

by Anonymousreply 240February 20, 2019 11:50 AM

Merching the gifts. I think there will be a big ostentatious show of giving stuff to the poors but with a side of flashy labels to be pap strolled.

by Anonymousreply 241February 20, 2019 11:59 AM

What the Frau has happened to the thread. Surrogacy tin hatters out in force.

As crazy as Mega's "baby shower" is, it's hardly embarrassing. The BRF must have expected a pap storm for her first trip back to the USA. Whether it was initiated by the tabloids or a phone head pap stroll, this was always going to be the outcome. Now it's over. This does not rank in the top 100 most embarrassing royal moments.

I'm disappointed in all the boring clothing involved. The updated Jackie-O coat and sunglasses were meh. A bit too on the nose. Abigail Spencer's dress was tragic. Serena's evening outfit had clean lines then she threw in that handbag and landed herself in the discard pile. Misha Nonoo's look (minus the sleeves) may be my favourite of the underwhelming lot.

by Anonymousreply 242February 20, 2019 12:11 PM

When does she fly back? Is the Morocco trip THIS weekend?

That is a lot of airtime, makes me think the surrogate rumors have some legs, along with the shrinking bump.

by Anonymousreply 243February 20, 2019 12:11 PM

People really can’t see that Harry is probably embarrassed at this stage?

There is an immense difference between being CAUGHT by the paps, and COURTING the paps.

As far as I can tell, Harry has never once been out there using his private life for self-promotion. Except possibly that SoHo pap walk which I suspect Meghan wanted & he did to shut her up.

No member of the BRF behaves that way...for a reason. His wife is out there playing superstar with photographers tipped in advance to be at the right restaurant with their flash bulbs.

I think he’s probably cringing in the certain knowledge that the rest of his family are rolling their eyeballs and sniggering.

You cannot demand privacy on the one hand and then invite attention on the other. Rule No.1 for the BRF. This is the point every royal correspondant was making with the Vanity Fair “holy bread” stuff. Harry may not know much, but he knows this much at least.

by Anonymousreply 244February 20, 2019 12:20 PM

It’s extremely noticeable to me that every time Harry is involved the press complain about the lack of access, being kept away and behind barriers etc.

When it’s just Markle all such demands for privacy are absent...pics of the tea I made you? Post to IG by all means. Want to sing my praises to People, “friends”. Be my guest. “Private” trip to NYC....hello, Harpers Bazaar.

by Anonymousreply 245February 20, 2019 12:26 PM

R215 - Thanks! Fascinating, really.

R193

by Anonymousreply 246February 20, 2019 12:29 PM

It’s not her first trip back to the US, R242. Weird that she’s managed to get to Toronto & back, Boston & back...not to mention all the trips to London during the LDR, with no one knowing a thing.

The point is, she has engineered the attention she’s getting. That WILL be embarrassing because it’s the polar opposite of what every other member of the RF strives to do.

by Anonymousreply 247February 20, 2019 12:31 PM

The media weren't just tipped in advance they were given an itinerary that contained so much information that one of her fansites felt uncomfortable posting it. Her security must have been going crazy, no wonder those guys look stressed in photographs.

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by Anonymousreply 248February 20, 2019 12:32 PM

R237 - The sugar feels bad for poor Meghan getting a baby shower in a $75,000 per night penthouse in Manhattan thrown by Amal Clooney, wife of a billionare actor, neither of whom also never met a camera they didn't like.

Has the sugar any idea how poor Meghan's penthouse "baby shower" carrying $1,200 handbags is playing back home in Britain where 3,500 people are facing the loss of jobs in Swindon? Has the sugar any idea how tone-dear Meghan looks to the folks back home who are shelling out three million quid to renovate her dumpy little cottage in Windsor?

If everyone hates her (and everyone doesn't - Kaiser and the fraus on Celebitchy are thrilled to see the poor dear having fun and getting some rest before she has to go home and to three days of "work: - it's because Meghan Markle doesn't have two fucks to give about the institution that put her where she is.

Because if Harry hadn't married her, she wouldn't be hangin' with Amal Clooney in a $75,000 a night penthouse.

The DM has the cost of the penthouse up there in huge headlines. I'm sure the voters in places like Swindon, Middlesborough, Bradford, and Sunderland up north are really being won over to her side by her disgraceful broadcasting of her A-List celerity status.

by Anonymousreply 249February 20, 2019 12:37 PM

*tone-deaf

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by Anonymousreply 250February 20, 2019 12:38 PM

R244, my thoughts exactly. Harry may be in love (whatever “in love” means) but we’ve seen him be quite irreverent and sardonic in the past, trading good-natured barbs with his brother, for example. Surely he’d have slagged the hell out of any other guy in his situation. Plus, he knows his family and how they think. Oh, Meghan.

by Anonymousreply 251February 20, 2019 12:40 PM

Ooh look MEga's security has words with a heckler calling her the Charlatan princess (or duchess perhaps).

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by Anonymousreply 253February 20, 2019 12:45 PM

That looks INCREDIBLY STAGED to me, R252. Fits her so hard done by narrative. People do not go about in the street in NY, faces covered, screaming at strangers. It is also very theatrical language.

by Anonymousreply 254February 20, 2019 12:47 PM

Christ, I used to look at her sardonically and as part of a historical curve that might possibly lead to the end of the monarchy as we know it.

But I'm really beginning to loathe her personally. She reallly is nothing but a jumped up celebrity whose marriage was nothing but a stepping-stone.

One can only wonder what the rest of the appalled BRF is making of this. How fucking incredilbly stupid could they have been?!

by Anonymousreply 255February 20, 2019 12:48 PM

R234 - Too right - hats off to Doria for exhibiting some sense of reality.

by Anonymousreply 256February 20, 2019 12:49 PM

I don’t think they were stupid r255, I think they could see the train wreck coming a mile off but were put into the position of being unable to rein Harry in without looking like they were closing rank to keep out the slightly tan mixed race American divorceé D list actress. She boxed him in with that cringeworthy Vanity Fair interview.

by Anonymousreply 257February 20, 2019 12:52 PM

Just saw the “America’s most expensive hotel room,” $75,000 a night “castle in the sky” DM article, holy shit. Amal Clooney and all. Mhm-hm. I thought I was being uncharitable with some of my early suspicions about Meghan’s motives, but she really is going for it.

by Anonymousreply 258February 20, 2019 12:55 PM

You have got to read the description of that penthouse. 10,000 square feet with every possible amenity.

by Anonymousreply 259February 20, 2019 1:00 PM

r254 Funny you should say that. Did you know you can hire demonstrators?

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by Anonymousreply 260February 20, 2019 1:10 PM

The TIMES has joined the party with a headline, "Meghan's glitzy baby shower is New York's worst-kept secret" - along with a photograph of a truckful of gifts being offloaded in front of the place.

This is, if possible, the worst PR Meghan could possily have engineered, second only to her Five Friends Speak Out article in PEOPLE. It's a "branding" exercise, plain and simple, and makes it clear that her real affiliation isn't with the British people, but with American and Eurotrash celebrity culture.

And Harrty looks like a helpless bystander.

by Anonymousreply 261February 20, 2019 1:12 PM

Harry got played. Dope probably wanted someone to love him.

by Anonymousreply 262February 20, 2019 1:23 PM

She really has surpassed all predictions of her narcissistic ways yet I don't think Dimwit will divorce her any time soon, he won't want to admit he was wrong and will stubbornly stand firm.

by Anonymousreply 263February 20, 2019 1:41 PM

I think it has become clear that she does not intend to stay for long, R263. Time will tell, but she is aggressively building HER brand and has not tried to become one of the family or to promote UK industry.

by Anonymousreply 264February 20, 2019 1:44 PM

I honestly think he was actively looking for a “celeb” to marry. I remember reading somewhere that he said as much, something along the lines of...”Whoever I marry really needs to be used to being in the public eye to cope with the press”.

Along comes Markle, laying it on thick with the whole “humanitarian” bullshit & reassuring him that she was an expert at coping with press attention..and he probably saw her demands for the notorious statement as strength rather than what it actually was (public validation for herself). The sex was goodnso he thought, “I could do worse” & that was that.

His body language has never, ever said “in love” to me. Not once. I didn’t even find the doe-eyed gazing at the wedding that convincing.

I am not “tinhatting”, I promise. He married her because he wanted to & obviously thought it was a good idea.

But he doesn’t live the same mind of life as the rest of us, so his priorities are likely to be markedly different. While the rest of us marry because we can’t imagine living without someone I don’t struggle to believe that Harry’s priority was more along the lines of “Can she cope with the life I lead?”

Biggest clues to this, for me, are...the speed at which it all happened & the fact that he largely talked about her being perfect “for the job” during the enagement interview.

But he underestimated the level of her narcisisism, I think. He didn’t understand that coping with relentless attention is a far cry from actively wanting it. Showing up in moderately priced clothing to shake hands with poor unfortunates but keeping the fabulousness of your new life private was never going to work with Markle.

I don’t know but I’d bet money Harry is deeply unhappy at this stage & wondering what the hell he’s done.

No, there’s nothing embarrassing about having dinner with friends in NY. There IS something embarrassing when a senior member of the royal family alerts the press in advance where they”ll be.

Best of luck to her & Harry next time they complain to IPSO for intrusion into their private lives. Having a history of courting publicity is a defence to that...which is why the BRF don’t do it.

by Anonymousreply 265February 20, 2019 1:49 PM

Oh to be a fly on the walls of Kensington and Buckingham Palaces.

by Anonymousreply 266February 20, 2019 1:57 PM

Completely agree, r265. I will add that he has probably realized how expendable he is to her at this point. She played the damsel in distress role to the hilt at the beginning of the relationship. He probably thought of himself as her white knight, as the leader of their relationship. Oh, how the tables have turned.

by Anonymousreply 267February 20, 2019 2:06 PM

He will be happier when she is gone.

Amazing that there are still months to go before someone gives birth to Sohobebe.

by Anonymousreply 268February 20, 2019 2:17 PM

I must confess, I think this is all wonderful.

She really, truly is digging her own grave.

by Anonymousreply 269February 20, 2019 2:22 PM

Can you imagine if she were to go into labor while here? She'd be in heaven. Aside from the obvious PR bonanza and intense circus atmosphere that would not subside for ages, what sorts of implications might there be for citizenship and possible future custody disputes?

Am I in same league as Tumblr crazies by entertaining the idea that there's a chance that a search of Meghan's devices would yield searches about labor induction?

by Anonymousreply 270February 20, 2019 2:24 PM

Could be totally wrong, but she’s still an American citizen so the baby could have dual-nationality anyway if she wanted it. A friend of mine is Brit/American...US mother, Brit father, born in London...same as Sohobebe. Friend has two passports.

by Anonymousreply 271February 20, 2019 2:30 PM

It'll be even better when she's on the downswing. I bet she's built herself up in her own head to believe that she's bigger than the BRF. Once she leaves, she will realize this isn't so. She will try to use the kid for press, but to diminishing returns. She will be like Jolie, doing obvious pap strolls with kids that only lower tier outlets bother to post.

by Anonymousreply 272February 20, 2019 2:30 PM

No one caring will eat her alive.

I thought custody vested in the Queen?

by Anonymousreply 273February 20, 2019 2:34 PM

It's all going swimmingly well!

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by Anonymousreply 274February 20, 2019 2:38 PM

Technically, custody vests with HM. But if they attempt such MM will play the victim card. (In normal circumstances, that would be expected. But she seems so soulless, that I doubt she even cares about this kid only in so much as what it does for her.) It will be interesting to see how they proceed.

by Anonymousreply 275February 20, 2019 2:53 PM

R271, I really do wonder, and I have no idea how it works. I just imagine that if a baby is born on US soil to an American citizen, that baby is automatically an American citizen first. If it’s born in London, it’s automatically a British citizen first. Then the steps are taken at the passport office or wherever, to be granted the dual citizenship.

by Anonymousreply 276February 20, 2019 3:06 PM

Serena can well afford it but that is an obscene amount of money to be spending on a baby shower.

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by Anonymousreply 277February 20, 2019 3:13 PM

When did Vanity Fair and the others become simply an outlet for daily placed PR by Sunshine Sachs?

by Anonymousreply 278February 20, 2019 3:16 PM

R276 Yes...when the baby is born in the UK, she will have to go to the US embassy with her passport and baby’s birth certificate and actively apply for American citizenship. That’s if she wants him/her to have dual-nationality. S/he will automatically have British for being born here. I think.

by Anonymousreply 279February 20, 2019 3:18 PM

The fact that her "friends" paid for it makes the optics worse, not better. It shows that all she wants is to use her marriage to cultivate rich and famous friends, some of whom (paging Amal Clooney) would have given her a second glance if she hadn't married the hapless, and virtually now invisible Harry.

No matter who paid for what, this looks bad. It shows where her real values and affinities are. And they aren't with British taxpayers.

by Anonymousreply 280February 20, 2019 3:22 PM

Meghan is BEAMING behind those Jackie O glasses. She is a Jackie Collins novel come to life, and I do sort of love it. Except it truly ain't good for the monarchy.

Let's do fan fiction. Her Majesty is shown the blaring headlines. Her eyebrows raise slightly. "Hem. Well then." She looks at her secretary and gives a helpless sigh.

Kate sees same headlines. Eyes widen. She silently passes her laptop or newspaper to Will with a tight little smile.

Will, with utter disgust: "Oh, GOD."

Harry sees the headlines, clears his throat a few times and.....what?

by Anonymousreply 281February 20, 2019 3:27 PM

Harry says " Oh God, she left the bloody pregnancy face prosthetic in the damned costume box". We are rumbled.

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by Anonymousreply 284February 20, 2019 3:44 PM

Two general Markle family questions:

1. Did Pa pay for Sam and Tom Jrs college, if they even attended?

2. Tom Jr says he and Sam only lived under the same roof as ME for about four years, so is Sam’s groundbreaking info on ME based on sources, and can they be trusted?

3. Has Sam ever held a regular job (prior to her Multiple Frauosis diagnosis)? Did she achieve anything?

4. Why would ME say she barely knows Sam? She must know her somewhat, via family gossip. In all the years, Pa never mentioned her to ME? That kind of lie is just wrong and so typical of ME.

5. Has Pa pulled away from Sam yet or is she his Svengali? He doesn’t seem too bright. Seems like a pothead actually.

by Anonymousreply 285February 20, 2019 3:46 PM

This victimhood chic is a specialty of Sunshine Sachs. They repped Jussie when the whole victim narrative was created and set in motion. It is why they have Pa and 1/2 sis on the PR team and there are fake demonstrators shouting at our poor Bean. So, acknowledging they are fake and acknowledging she actively dresses to spur criticism and acts deliberately not to fit in, whatever is left to talk about?

It is quite a time to be alive once you have peeked behind the curtain.

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by Anonymousreply 286February 20, 2019 3:47 PM

Just as Harry clears his throat his phone rings.

Harry: Yes?

Charles: Harry, it's Papa.

Harry: (to himself) "Oh, God, here it comes." Then, "Hi, Dad."

Charles: (Also clears throat) "Harry, your grandmother asked me to drop by this evening for drinks after supper. She suggested that I bring you with me."

Silence

Harry: "Is this some kind of meeting?"

Charles: "I'm afraid so."

Harry: "All right. I suppose I must."

Between around 8:00-8:15PM, two cars with darkened windows slide into Buck House. Harry gets slowly out of the later one and is shown quietly into the Queen's living quarters, where he finds not only HM and his father, but William, as well, looking sombre and sorrowful.

Harry looks around, lips tightening, brows darkening. He goes first to his grandmother, bows slightly and kisses her hand then her cheek, then greets his father and brother tersely.

The Queen: "Would you like a drink, Harry?"

Harry: "Yes."

Over and out to the next poster . . .

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by Anonymousreply 289February 20, 2019 3:54 PM

Well, it is bloody obvious why she is so clearly bored and disinterested in engaging with citizens of the UK, she considers them her inferiors and does not even try to hide it. If it was not for them she would be giving bjs at Soho House or winding down her job in Toronto.

Duchess of Conspicuous Consumption deserves to go viral.

by Anonymousreply 290February 20, 2019 3:55 PM

This two are just so unfortunate.

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by Anonymousreply 291February 20, 2019 3:56 PM

The vile creatures at the Daily Mail took close up photos of Anne. Very unfair.... Although, to be honest, I don't think it's possible to get far enough away and still see her.

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by Anonymousreply 293February 20, 2019 4:00 PM

Miss Jo-King, Traveling around the world, United Kingdom, 2 minutes ago

Maybe weird question.. but since her male friends were there... How come Prince Harry stayed behind. It is also his baby ?!

by Anonymousreply 294February 20, 2019 4:02 PM

Sarah needs her eyes done, that look like they are sagging shut.

Bravo to her for keeping her figure somewhat consistent the past two years or so.

by Anonymousreply 295February 20, 2019 4:03 PM

surprise guest, Toronto, Canada, 8 minutes ago

I just read an article in Cosmopolitan that asked why there were so many pictures of MM in NY considering she doesn't have any official functions planned and no one from the palace is with her. It said that paparazzi are placed in media pens and that the photos are staged and organized. It goes on to say that MM keeps hiding her bump, lol, and her face as though she is trying to avoid the cameras but then deliberately stands in the middle of the street waiting for her friends to catch up with her and walk into the venues with her. And her friends are deliberately walking slowly towards her which gives the paps more time to take pictures of her and the rest of them. She's staged the whole thing for the publicity. Why is the Queen allowing this? Everyone has such respect for the Queen. I don't understand why someone as disciplined as Elizabeth continues to allow these stunts to damage the RF's reputation. It's so frustrating.

by Anonymousreply 296February 20, 2019 4:03 PM

Grindle69, south yorkshire, United Kingdom, 2 hours ago

looks like her mother is not good enough now not inviting her to her baby shower shame on her

by Anonymousreply 297February 20, 2019 4:04 PM

Whatnextboo, London, United Kingdom, 2 hours ago

I think she's preparing for going back to her celebrity life , talk of The Tig resurfacing, friends posting social media and interviews by proxy and pap staged pics !!! I actually think her and Harry's days are numbered. I give them a year !! Tops !!

by Anonymousreply 298February 20, 2019 4:05 PM

The Queen had more audiences at the Palace today. She seems to stay home and do functions there a lot more due to her age.

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by Anonymousreply 299February 20, 2019 4:05 PM

Labella07, Southeast, United States, 1 hour ago

The reappearance of Markus Anderson is a dead giveaway that MM and Harry are finished.

by Anonymousreply 300February 20, 2019 4:05 PM

spot on r264, except what value does "her brand" have if she's no longer in the BRF or married to Harry? It plummets, doesn't it? How valuable was Sarah Ferguson's 'brand' after being divorced? Diana's was strong after years of service and due to her marriage to the Heir, but by all accounts waning at time of her death. I don't think MM is going to get the kind of mileage she thinks she'll be getting after her "Megxit".

[quote]I give this marriage another year. She doesn’t need Harry anymore...

She THINKS she doesn't need him or the BRF. But without them, where does she stand, status-wise?

by Anonymousreply 301February 20, 2019 4:06 PM

Is it just me or do her lips look much plumper than they used to?

Is this, ummm, person really getting her lips duckfaced up while being pregnant?

by Anonymousreply 302February 20, 2019 4:06 PM

expat2005, Zurich, Switzerland, 2 hours ago

Many who were until recently, royalists, now want the end of the monarchy. It all comes as a result of this type of ridiculous indulgence and absolute lack of sensitivity towards the billions of people in need around the world. To have to watch this "humanitarian" persistently burn money like she does, and parade around stating she cares about anything but herself, is an insult to everyone's intelligence. Your actions speak so much louder than your words MM.

by Anonymousreply 303February 20, 2019 4:07 PM

lol r185. So damn true.

by Anonymousreply 304February 20, 2019 4:07 PM

I went to see Sarah give a lecture a few years back, the subject was "Reinventing Yourself" or something. While not royal, she was self-deprecating and endearing.

by Anonymousreply 305February 20, 2019 4:10 PM

I think SS are trying to make her a celebrity with her own brand/image. Not sure how well it is working. Who is paying? The literal daily tsunami of placed PR is not cheap.

by Anonymousreply 306February 20, 2019 4:14 PM

Anne looks fine. Well dressed, businesslike. Beyond that, she's not going to engage in a lot of bother with makeup.

by Anonymousreply 307February 20, 2019 4:17 PM

R306 - I suspect that Andrew has bailed out Fergie many times.

by Anonymousreply 308February 20, 2019 4:20 PM

R306 - I suspect that Andrew has bailed out Fergie many times.

by Anonymousreply 309February 20, 2019 4:20 PM

^ Sorry for the double post.

by Anonymousreply 310February 20, 2019 4:21 PM

Well, he married his mom. I think we know that is how she ensnared him. Of course, this was the type of behavior (using the press then playing victim of the press) that Charles hated so it will be interesting to how Charles reacts to MM now.

Serena looks like a man.

by Anonymousreply 311February 20, 2019 4:22 PM

I've always liked Fergie, for all her many faults she feels genuine.

by Anonymousreply 312February 20, 2019 4:23 PM

Agreed r312. She’s a fool but she’s not a devious user. I really don’t think Fergie has the brain capacity to be Machiavellian.

by Anonymousreply 313February 20, 2019 4:24 PM

Anne is 68. Why the hell would she want to bother with filler & botox at her age? She looks her age. So what?

by Anonymousreply 314February 20, 2019 4:25 PM

Anne doesn't give a tinker's curse about her aging look. She never has cared. Anne in youth boasted the immaculate skin bestowed by the combined Windsor and Bowes-Lyon genes. But those complexions are gorgeous because they aren't oily. In later life, they wrinkle fast.

Well - you can't have it all ways.

by Anonymousreply 315February 20, 2019 4:25 PM

R289 Not disagreeing with you .. I would love to see Princess Anne with a new hairdo at least. Back in the day, ( ahh the 70's!) she looked fab with that mane of hair worn loose. I think she basically doesn't give a damn.

I met her once a few years ago and A) She was funny as hell... very dry, witty and sharp as a tack B) Her figure is amazing! You can see she keeps fit. She certainly was when she fought off that attempted kidnapper! I do get what you say tho'.

by Anonymousreply 316February 20, 2019 4:27 PM

Did Nutmeg only pack black clothes for her Fame Whore Tour of NYC? Why does she carry a hat when she's wearing a tweed cap?

by Anonymousreply 317February 20, 2019 4:28 PM

Probably to hide her stash in. She looked high as a kite in the resturant / club series of pictures.

by Anonymousreply 318February 20, 2019 4:34 PM

She just happens to sit in the best place at the museum restaurant so she can be papped. Is she being paid for this trip?

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by Anonymousreply 319February 20, 2019 4:34 PM

Lots of photos of Sparkle and Markus through the years here.

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by Anonymousreply 320February 20, 2019 4:36 PM

Her lips look definitely more plump than they used to. Particularly the upper lip has got the look of a typical duckface lip now.

by Anonymousreply 321February 20, 2019 4:37 PM

The Queen as an adorable child.

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by Anonymousreply 322February 20, 2019 4:38 PM

EVERYONE here interested in the Megs Baby Shower debacle needs to go back and review the twitter thread linked at r248. This is a back-and-forth between Meghan's Mirror (a pro-MM site w/connections to her PR and Jess M), a fan and Marlene Koenig. The latter is a longtime international royalty expert who's well-connected to that scene as much as anyone, and who - apparently up until recently - was very pro-Meg, supporting her marriage to Harry and defending her from some of the more slanted press.

She is onto the thirsty public nature of this NYC jaunt. She emphasizes how this was pre-planned to be publicized, with press notified in advance and barriers up at the Mark and other sites.

also: why were the US State Dept police swarming these spots? The RPOs were present - they weren't enough security?

by Anonymousreply 323February 20, 2019 4:39 PM

Difference between Fergie and Meghan: Fergie did tacky/ bad shit because opportunities presented themselves and she couldn't deal with fallout because she didn't scheme to set these plans in motion. Meghan OTOH, planned and orchestrated tacky/ bad shit AND has plans to deal with eventual fallout by playing more games. That's the big difference. One is an opportunist and the other one is a grifter.

by Anonymousreply 324February 20, 2019 4:42 PM

I like that Anne hasn't updated her hairstyle. I enjoy having some things reliably frozen in time. Change is overrated.

by Anonymousreply 325February 20, 2019 4:43 PM

Fergie also demonstrated hedonism and a certain recklessness. It was her impulsive nature, as opposed to calculation and scheming. I imagine at her best, she's a lot of fun, highly irreverent.

by Anonymousreply 326February 20, 2019 4:45 PM

Marlene turned on ME? Hmm, that’s interesting. She was very #teamsparkle for a while. But she’s sharp as a knife and knows Royals VERY well.

by Anonymousreply 327February 20, 2019 4:46 PM

Hmm Chris Ship (ITV royal reporter) seems somewhat upset. Markle Stans remain clueless. I almost pity them when they finally see their idol for what she is.

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by Anonymousreply 328February 20, 2019 4:46 PM

Baby shower guests were given free merchandise gifts for attending, customized carry ons from a NYC-based luggage company:

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by Anonymousreply 329February 20, 2019 4:46 PM

Oh and for those of you saying Meghan isn't playing the long game? Wrong. She IS playing the long game......for her American media/ fanbase/ future $$$ opportunities. Why pay for coverage (People Magazine etc...) here in the U.S.? She doesn't give a fuck about what British public thinks because she knows her angle for future extension of fame once she's out of BRF is here, in the U.S. She will portray herself as royal expert American princess bullshit, she'll be in demand on morning shows like GMA where she might even get a gig just like tacky Jessica. Remember this is a country where Kardashians rake in the $$$ for being fake, tacky, and ostentatious. This is Meghan's long game

by Anonymousreply 330February 20, 2019 4:48 PM

r327 I don't think she has turned, she seems to be retweeting Sparkle stan craziness. She just one of the saner sparkle stans.

by Anonymousreply 331February 20, 2019 4:50 PM

She (Marlene) tweeted today that she had to block many of the Megnuts (her phrase) in her feed because they were tweeting nonsense at her.

by Anonymousreply 332February 20, 2019 4:55 PM

How dare that famewhore Meghan walk outside, eat food or get pregnant! It’s not all about you!

by Anonymousreply 333February 20, 2019 4:57 PM

Spot on R330.

R333 Get with the fucking programme. It’s issuing her itinerary to the press in advance that people are stunned about. This is NOT about a woman meeting friends.

by Anonymousreply 334February 20, 2019 4:59 PM

I predict that she won’t get anymore patronages.

She’s doing everything she can to prove that she doesn’t really want to be part of the BRF & I bet HM has taken note.

by Anonymousreply 335February 20, 2019 5:04 PM

"Celebrity" arrivals at the bash. Gayle King is a friend? Yeah, of Oprah's. WTF?

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by Anonymousreply 336February 20, 2019 5:12 PM

I wish that the Royal Family would announce that Harry will be flying solo to Morocco on the weekend. They need to punish this Merchandising Fame Whore Rogue. She's a very damaging loose cannon.

by Anonymousreply 337February 20, 2019 5:20 PM

R328 - "I almost pity them when they finally see their idol for what she is."

They'll never see her for what she is - when this goes south, they'll blame the racist UK press, blame racist UK people, they'll blame the BRF - they'll blame everyone BUT Meghan Markle - they excuse her love of the limelight, her extravagance, her naked celebrity craving, her overshadowing her husband so quickly you can't see Harry for dust, and her first and greatest mistake: threatening the British press a year before they were even engaged.

Which, as Meghan and Harry can both see now, not only didn't work, but backfired to the umpteenth degree.

I don't feel sorry for her stans at all. If she'd been all white instead of mixed race, they'd have been all over her like a bad rash for this crap.

They'll have earned every last drop of disappointment and dismay.

by Anonymousreply 338February 20, 2019 5:22 PM

I come here after several weeks away to find that the DoS still hasn't realised that she's a royal and not a C-list celeb.

by Anonymousreply 339February 20, 2019 5:24 PM

R336 - Patronages are the only way to make sure she works harder for her privileges.

by Anonymousreply 340February 20, 2019 5:24 PM

R340 I don’t think they want her to work harder...I think they will be planning for when she’s gone. Dropping patronages is much harder than hardly having any to begin with. I honestly believe that, given her behaviour, they will be drawing up secret divorce plans. They know it’s coming as well as the rest of us do.

by Anonymousreply 341February 20, 2019 5:39 PM

I’m now wondering whether the blind about her being refused a shower in the UK is actually true. This really feels like she’s sticking her two fingers up at people back home.

If it’s aimed at HM then she’s really fucked up.

by Anonymousreply 342February 20, 2019 5:42 PM

Is it possible she doesn’t know showers are considered tacky?

Is her lower class background that ingrained?

And why doesn’t anyone advise her? Or is she just ignoring all advice?

I can’t imagine being told by some royal protocol advisor, “showers are frowned upon” and then flouncing off to have the tackiest, most pap-covered baby shower ever.

UNLESS.... she’s already decided she’s OUTRO.

by Anonymousreply 343February 20, 2019 5:49 PM

R337 seemingly the ENTIRE purpose of the trip was to prevent her from going to LA to famewhore at the Oscars, so cutting her from the Morocco obligation would be counter-productive.

by Anonymousreply 344February 20, 2019 5:51 PM

R342 - I don't think it's aimed at HM personally, despite the Tiara Gate fracas. I think it's aimed at the institution and the BRF.

I think Meghan Markle really expected to become a Major Royal Star, like Diana - that she would turn into an idol, beloved and adored and Blowing Kate Middleton Out of the Water.

By now, Meghan's probably realised that that isn't going to happen, that all she's done is make Kate Middleton look better suited to being royal and more virtuous, and that the British press is permanently allied against her. She's not the next Diana, she's the next Princess Michael (irony of ironies).

I think she's just figured she may as well give it up and milk it for all it's worth and enjoy what it is she married Harry for: lavish lifestyle, status, fame, and celebrity. If it goes south, it goes south, she's had the time of her life, she takes the kid(s) and her Duchess label and a nice settlement with her, and she'd do it all again in a minute, because she'd never, ever have gotten a taste of this on her own.

I think she's sticking two fingers up to everything, and if that includes the Queen, hell, HM is nearly 93, it's only Charles and William she has to worry about, and by then, who knows?

I have great respect for HM, but this is partly her doing. She and Charles should have showed a bit of spine, and told Harry early in the game that if he thought about marrying her, he would do so outside the institution.

by Anonymousreply 345February 20, 2019 5:56 PM

Easier said than done r345. If they did put their collective feet down to stop the marriage they would have been accused of racism and turned Merching Meg into Martyr Meg. Damned if you do damned if you don’t.

by Anonymousreply 346February 20, 2019 6:00 PM

Wow, her fans are giving that Chris reporter hell. Most seem to be in the US and say the Brits and brit media are racist.

by Anonymousreply 347February 20, 2019 6:01 PM

R345 Agree with every word.

Except..if she is, at least in part, sticking two fingers up at the Queen, it’s not the Queen she needs to worry about particularly...it’s everyone else. The rest of the family & the grey suiters expect HM to be respected.

I remember with the story about GreenHatGate it was mentioned that HM was “surprised” while senior courtiers “took note of the lack of deference”. Something like that.

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by Anonymousreply 349February 20, 2019 6:10 PM

What is GreenHatGate?

by Anonymousreply 350February 20, 2019 6:14 PM

[Fan fiction, continued] The Queen begins, in a kindly but businesslike tone. "Harry. Have you spoken with Meghan in New York?"

"Yes, Granny. She's having a fine time with friends, good fun."

"It's not a good look," says Will, cutting to the point.

"Will," says Charles, making calming motions with his hands. "Please. Granny is simply concerned about....em, Meg's well-being." He turns to Harry. "These people she's with. Do you know them?"

"Course I know them, Papa. Well. I've met most of them," Harry says, beginning to redden. "Tell me, what is the point of this...this.... interrogation?"

"The point IS–" Will interjects.

"Will!" Charles says sharply.

"Now, now," interrupts the Queen. “Tisn’t an interrogration. Goodness. But you are aware some might think it unseemly to appear to flaunt one’s – well, one’s advantages in life.”

“Granny. Your Majesty. With all due respect,” says Harry, struggling to control his irritation. “It’s no secret our family has advantages.”

[OK, that’s all I got. I just can’t imagine what else they could say or do.]

by Anonymousreply 351February 20, 2019 6:19 PM

HM: “Harry, there is a very fine line to be trod between having advantages and flaunting unearned privilege. She seems ..... gauche.”

by Anonymousreply 352February 20, 2019 6:24 PM

R350 When she did the engagement with HM, she was told in advance that HM would be wearing a green hat out of respect for the Grenfell victims. This meant Markle was supposed to wear a hat too, but didn’t. HM “surprised”, grey suiters disapproving.

(NB: I don’t know if the “green” bit was actually relevant, but that’s how it was reported).

by Anonymousreply 353February 20, 2019 6:24 PM

The thing is R345 I don't even think she's living the level of celebrity you describe. I think she's faking the impression of it. What I'm reading on the internet is her itinerary was faxed everywhere, in minute detail, by HER people. Such detail even Meghan's Mirror wasn't comfortable republishing. She's trolling for coverage, but the fact is, everything we've seen is very tight shots of her because there are NO people interested, no real scrum of paps who weren't summoned. She doesn't have that A list celebrity. Serena isn't going to attract that here (I'm at my keyboard in midtown as I post this). I doubt Amal Clooney came in for this, despite George's recent statements, but even still, this crew isn't a "let's fall over ourselves getting the picture" because the occasion isn't interesting. She's using what appear to be doubles (you can grab one Meghan Markle double off the street in NYC out of about every less than 100 people passing by). She's having cars roll in stuffed with flowers, gifts arriving - she's putting on a show. Serena or Soho House may be footing the bill because NYC sure isn't and I"m certain the BRF isn't.

by Anonymousreply 354February 20, 2019 6:34 PM

R340 - if the Duchess of Conspicuous Consumption gets any more patronages, it will only encourage this type of behavior. It would be a reward for thumbing her nose at all of tradition. No, I think they need to cut her loose as soon as possible. She had a golden opportunity to do good and make a difference and she's squandered it big time.

by Anonymousreply 355February 20, 2019 6:36 PM

Years ago here (I'm R354) I saw an example of fake street interest in someone. A clutch of people hanging out the parking lot entrance of a midtown hotel. A photographer or two. All bored out of their freaking minds. At some signal that I didn't see or hear, they all screamed and rushed towards the entrance, while a few lights flashed. I didn't even see who the celeb was - possibly they shot the "crowd" first and the celeb earlier or later. It was a small clutch of people but enough if you shot close enough you'd assume it was a crowd.

by Anonymousreply 356February 20, 2019 6:37 PM

From r349's link"

[quote]Many of the guests came baring gifts

Keeping the quality writing going I see Daily Fail.

by Anonymousreply 357February 20, 2019 6:38 PM

the Grenfell victims group adopted green as their colour

by Anonymousreply 358February 20, 2019 6:39 PM

Thanks, R358. Didn’t know that. Makes sense.

by Anonymousreply 359February 20, 2019 6:43 PM

R330 she wants that US celebrity but won't get it. She has no mystique. She's not really considered royal because she never dressed like it or acted like it. If you're going to be a "royal rebel" you have to convince people you are royal in the first place, and she's never done that. She should have dressed and behaved extremely BRF standard the majority of the time and then on occasion broken out. Instead, she's pranced around like, "They ain't shit." and so nobody really associates her with any royal mystique. She'll have a flurry of gigs, will get no ratings or clicks, and that will be that.

by Anonymousreply 360February 20, 2019 6:51 PM

It hasn't hit Harry yet, and it's not going to for at least another year. When a person is in a relationship with a sociopathic narcissist, he's living in it day by day processing questionable things as they come and excusing them as they come. Until things pile up and one big transgression seals the deal and he finally realizes what a monster he's married to. Usually takes them about at least 2 years to figure things out and leave. That's my personal and professional experience. When Harry finally wakes up, he's going to be very psychologically damaged, more so than Diana's death had on him.

by Anonymousreply 361February 20, 2019 6:53 PM

Meghan's fans are in pure spite mode. You know they are disappointed. Prior to the wedding they would post their wish lists. None of it was "royal rebel". It was all out-Kating Kate, BUT, they also wanted her and Kate to be royal besties. They wanted her to be ROYAL. Not "What's wrong with this picture."

by Anonymousreply 362February 20, 2019 6:55 PM

If she went to NYC to see friends and be guest of honor at a baby shower, and attempted to do it "privately" everyone would accuse her of trying to be secretive and she gets busted, and there's a lot of drama about her & Harry etc. But she does a proper news release, and she has proper security, and some of you need to invest it with base motives.

Royals travel to the USA often, and do it with no notice. But Neither Harry, Kate, William, or Meghan have that luxury. And the State Department's involvement in security means the Palace was involved at the other end. The Palace has been known to punish the British tabloids when the tabloids behave reprehensibly as they have been lately. It seems the tabbies are pissed at not having advance notice of this trip. LOL! The Palace approves the release of public information about all members of the BRF, and that certainly includes the DoS. Anything else people are fantasizing about is invention.

And as some of you seem determined to clean up Fergie, may I remind you that she was having her toes sucked in public while she was still married, she has been busted for being a grifter, influence peddling, and hanging around with the seediest, sleaziest, nastiest Eurotrash this side of Monaco. Fergie was also so strung out or high or drunk or WTF ever she couldn't even navigate her daughter's wedding decently. I feel terribly sorry for Beatrice. She is saddled with looking after Mummy way too often.

by Anonymousreply 363February 20, 2019 6:57 PM

Why is she having her baby shower in the media capital of the western world? Jessica, Serena - none of these people are New Yorkers. SHE's not. Markus Anderson isn't.

She wouldn't be "busted" in New York. Nobody gives a flying fuck. Do you look at the margins of those images and see despite putting her itinerary on blast there is NOBODY THERE? There's a tiny few photogs and that is IT. Despite her using the same hotel that hosts guests attending the Met Gala.

It is entirely possible to be completely anon in New York. No paps know Meghan Markle, and she looks like every 1 in a hundred women on the street. Christ. She is NOT a celebrity, that's why she's hustling so hard to be one. Her husband is, and she's a side show. The end.

by Anonymousreply 364February 20, 2019 7:03 PM

[quote] “Granny. Your Majesty. With all due respect,” says Harry, struggling to control his irritation. “It’s no secret our family has advantages.”

"That may be the case, Hazza", Wills interrupted his younger brother impatiently, visibly growing angry, "Oh yes, our family has got A LOT of advantages. But guess what is a DISADVANTAGE? I'll tell you ... YOUR CHOICE OF SPOUSE!!! And guess what?!? It's not just a minor 'disadvantage' - IT'S A FUCKING DISASTER!!!"

by Anonymousreply 365February 20, 2019 7:08 PM

R363 “everyone would accuse her of trying to be secretive”. Eh?

That NY knew in advance she’d be there does not imply approval by KP nor that they were complicit in this. Anytime a royal travels into another country for whatever reason the authorities are informed.

This is not an offjcial visit. It’s not being treated as an official visit & palace staff are not there. So Markle has no business whatsoever using what ought to be a private event as obvious self-promotion.

Try as you may, this looks repulsive and she would have been told that.

by Anonymousreply 366February 20, 2019 7:12 PM

(1) I thought current trend was for co-ed baby showers? Why isn’t Harry there? Isn’t that the kind of shower a good feminist would have?

(2) So she went to a 3-hour dinner but didn’t have drinks?

(3) I can’t imagine doing all that flying as big as she pretends to be. I do think she’s pregnant, but also padding. Maybe for security reasons.

by Anonymousreply 367February 20, 2019 7:13 PM

It’s kinda sad her mom isn’t there. Granted, she might not WANT to be there, but still. I’m sure Doria finds MeMe’s friends tedious and/or pretentious.

by Anonymousreply 368February 20, 2019 7:19 PM

I find it a little alarming a husband in Harrys situation wouldn’t want to be close to his wife at this stage of the pregnancy. Those last 1.5-2 months, no one should be doing much traveling. First babies of older mothers often arrive early.

by Anonymousreply 369February 20, 2019 7:21 PM

Exactly r364. They could have easily had a wonderfully posh, luxurious party on the sly in Toronto, where many of the guests live. It could have been kept private like her other trips there in the past few years.

[quote]It is entirely possible to be completely anon in New York. No paps know Meghan Markle, and she looks like every 1 in a hundred women on the street. Christ. She is NOT a celebrity, that's why she's hustling so hard to be one. Her husband is, and she's a side show. The end.

SPOT ON.

by Anonymousreply 370February 20, 2019 7:25 PM

R365 - “I say, William! That’s rather enough!” shouted Charles, as the Queen looked on, distressed.

“Oh really,” seethed Harry, glaring at his brother. “Really. Well at least I didn’t marry a bloody LIMPET!”

by Anonymousreply 371February 20, 2019 7:25 PM

R368 - According to Omid Scobie, Doria is going to head to London to host a "smaller" shower for her daughter.

by Anonymousreply 372February 20, 2019 7:26 PM

Agree, R364, but she is a FREAK show.

by Anonymousreply 373February 20, 2019 7:27 PM

Omid Skobie isn't a reporter, despite his pretensions. Nor is he a royal expert. He's a Meghan flunky and whatever lies she tells, he'll broadcast. He even uses her hoped-for brand name. "Duchess Meghan".

by Anonymousreply 374February 20, 2019 7:33 PM

NYC is one of the few cities that has a minor pap industry. Toronto, for example, actually really doesn't, and Chicago's is limited (yet she was "papped" there when she arrived last year - WONDER HOW). BUT, she decides to have a "shower" in NYC. At one of the most ostentatiously "exclusive" hotels in the city, one that loves tabloid celebrities. Every single thing that happens happens at the front fucking door to be photographed, i.d.ing what it is, the cost, and who it is for. This is a tiny little circus orchestrated and paid for by Meghan or Meghan affiliates to try and communicate that she's on the level of a NYC A-list celeb. The rational that she would come over from London expressly to NYC to have a baby shower and have to manage her privacy when her friends are loaded and could host her at their (luxurious) homes far away from the press is just absurd. NYC is one of the few locations with enough of a pap presence that she could pay a few a few bucks and have them show up to take her picture. She's trolling and chumming and dredging, and still not coming up with much noise.

by Anonymousreply 375February 20, 2019 7:38 PM

"She's a minimally talented spoiled brat."

"She's a camp event and a celebrity and that's all."

See, Meghan is just like her idol Jolie

by Anonymousreply 376February 20, 2019 7:44 PM

Sunshine Sachs did a shit job establishing her purported activist credentials. She is like a Real Housewife already.

by Anonymousreply 377February 20, 2019 7:46 PM

[R312] Can confirm. Long ago, a friend was a weight-loss researcher at Johns Hopkins during the time that Fergie was their spokesperson. Friend received a large check to cover part of her research and Fergie flew to Baltimore to hand-deliver it. Anyway, friend was in large conference room talking to others, waiting for event to start when Fergie entered on her own. No entourage, no fuss. Very friendly and unassuming.

by Anonymousreply 378February 20, 2019 7:55 PM

I've never heard of a baby shower where both the mother of the pregnant woman and the sister in law don't get an invite. It's so weird. I guess we'll see if Doria really hosts one in London and Kate gets invited.

by Anonymousreply 379February 20, 2019 8:14 PM

R301 She doesn’t need them. Social media has changed celebrity forever. Think about the one hit wonders from the 80’s-90’s, they mostly don’t exist. Same for the actors with a tv series or limited film run.

It’s not like that anymore. Now if you have even a tiny moment of fame (the Dr. Phil teen), the social media following and ad potential mean you can keep it going forever. People don’t run their course anymore.

If you get out there and work to brand yourself, stage your photos, hit the right parties, you never go away. In the pre-reality show, pre social media, Jessica Simpson would have disappeared by now - like Martika or Pebbles.

Meghan only needed them to this point and now she’s good. The possibilities are limitless. She can go real housewives, she can go Angelina humanitarian, lifestyle brand Goop, or she can even try to say “her passion just kept calling her back” and get film roles she’d never have pulled before.

She could divorce Harry tomorrow and she’d still be famous and in the spotlight for the rest of her life. If her goals are bigger, every month she continues to waste with Harry is a month her potential is “wasted.”

by Anonymousreply 380February 20, 2019 8:18 PM

R380 - Interesting take. Well, not every month: she has to have the baby, the christening, and make sure she is established as the mother of Saint Diana's grandchild.

So if your take is correct, she still has at least 24 months to invest.

If Harry is lucky, she'll call it quits after that and release him from his humiliation. And she'll be able to point to the British tabloid racists having "hounded her out".

by Anonymousreply 381February 20, 2019 8:26 PM

All that can be accomplished by summer, R381. No way is this gonna last for 2 more years. She is moving on already and she is still up the duff and married less than a year. Markus is back on the scene for a reason and male/pale/stale could not have been clearer.

by Anonymousreply 382February 20, 2019 8:32 PM

This is so about celebrity. If this were something small with people she’s actually friends with, college buds, old colleagues, AND her mom and family (and done without flashing bulbs) you could say it really was just about the experience and fun and give her a pass.

This is 100% full of people she has no previous kinship with. No bond where they are so excited for their dear friend. This is celebrity bullshit at its most blatant and ridiculous level.

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by Anonymousreply 385February 20, 2019 8:50 PM

That DM shot of the gifted suitcases with the brand name front and center have turned me into a Markle hater. She's tacky, transparent, and clueless. Pathetic attention seeker all around.

by Anonymousreply 386February 20, 2019 8:53 PM

Amal always looks like a drag version of Anne Hathaway..

by Anonymousreply 387February 20, 2019 8:54 PM

Amal used to be a man, didn't it?

by Anonymousreply 388February 20, 2019 8:55 PM

WONT SOMEONE COMMENT ON MEME’S DREADFUL WIG!

It is killing me!!!!

Wonder why she doesn’t do wigs when she’s in London? She just does the scraggly buns.

by Anonymousreply 389February 20, 2019 8:56 PM

R382 - Well, we'll see, but my wager is on two years at the earliest. Remember, Harry probably wants more than one child. The UK taxpayer is funding the three million quid for renovations to their home.

No, I don't think even Meghan Markle has balls enough for that. She'll have to put in her time and give Harry two kids - remember, her "settlement" depends upon the length of the marriage and the children involved.

It would only happen earlier if Harry refused to breed with her again and he called it quits. Personally, I don't think he has balls for that, either.

Mind, the BRF would probably be glad to bribe her out after the first one to avoid just that. She gets the use of Frogmore Cottage when in the UK, the Queen waives custody so Harry and Meghan can do joint custody, stipulating that Meghan cannot take the child beyond America or the UK without written permission from the Sovereign; Meghan surrenders her HRH and all claims on the Sovereign Grant and UK security staff; she ceases to carry out engagements in the name of the BRf; she gets a lump sum payment plus a handsome monthly allowance while the bebe is under 18, a portion of which is set aside as the basis for a trust fund for the child.

They've probably got it written up now.

by Anonymousreply 390February 20, 2019 9:01 PM

Amal cracks me up. Her coat thrown wide open in a blizzard to show off her strapless red jumpsuit and stilettos. I understand she’s a lawyer who I gather has done some good work, but wow does she love the attention of being Mrs. George Clooney. I even love how she took his incongrous Irish name, just so for eternity there’s no forgetting who she married.

by Anonymousreply 391February 20, 2019 9:02 PM

👆🏼“Incongruous”

by Anonymousreply 392February 20, 2019 9:03 PM

Okay r389, her wig looks like something bought for a little girl to play dress up from the clearance toy end cap at the Dollar General. It is atrocious. It's so plastic it looks like it would melt if she stood too close to a hot lamp.

by Anonymousreply 393February 20, 2019 9:06 PM

Thank you, r393.

I feel much better.

by Anonymousreply 394February 20, 2019 9:07 PM

Currently the taxpayer is on the hook for £3m but if there is a big enough stink about MeMe's extravagence the government might tell them to dig into their own coffers. Sparkle forgets that the BRF has an ultimate employer in the form of the British State, represented by an unpopular government on the lookout for good publicity.

I see the Sun is taking aim "duchess diva Meghan Markle’s star-studded New York baby shower showed the REAL her – flashy, publicity-hungry but undeniably independent"

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by Anonymousreply 395February 20, 2019 9:08 PM

Every time I look at pictures of the shower spectacle, I hear carnival music. Really the only way this could have been better is if Beyoncé and Kim Kardashian had shown up.

by Anonymousreply 396February 20, 2019 9:11 PM

Did you see Katie Couric jokingly tweeted something about not being able to make it to the shower? Maybe she thought she’d actually get an invite out of it. In her heyday, she might have. She’s not important enough anymore.

by Anonymousreply 397February 20, 2019 9:14 PM

Speaking of Beyoncé, R396, she and Jay-Z just accepted a Brit Award while standing in front of a portrait of Meghan in a crown for some reason.

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by Anonymousreply 398February 20, 2019 9:14 PM

Funny you should mention beyonce r396

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by Anonymousreply 399February 20, 2019 9:14 PM

R395 - "Currently the taxpayer is on the hook for £3m but if there is a big enough stink about MeMe's extravagance the government might tell them to dig into their own coffers."

The reno is almost done so it's a bit late for that. The Sussexes, are allegedly, digging into their own coffers for non-structural stuff, furnishings, design, etc., but it's laughable to believe that Harry's regulation-taxed income is picking up all of that. The likelihood is that Charles is picking up the tab for a good deal of what the £3m didn't cover, and that the Sussexes haven't shied away from blurring the line between structural and furnishings here and there.

The problem is, there isn't a big enough stink about her extravagance (although the SUN and the DM are being quite helpful here), any more than there was about the outrageous cost to the taxpayer of William's and Kate's place in KP. The Queen paid for the reno on Anmer Hall, as it's part of her personal Sandringham estate.

One reason they probably were forced to accept Frogmore Cottage was that they didn't want two more royal renos: one in London and one in the country. Of course, that could change in a few years if Harry whinges enough to Papa about how Meghan is tired of dragging the kids from Windsor to London all the time . . .

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by Anonymousreply 401February 20, 2019 10:03 PM

I usually avoid Royal Gossip Forum but dropped in to see how the baby shower carnival was being received - anyone interested in some truly choice observations might like to drop in, too.

by Anonymousreply 402February 20, 2019 10:06 PM

The recipients' monograms on the "party favor" suitcases at R329 are an especially telling detail: They're used by people who aspire to be upper-class, but haven't fully grasped the importance of discretion and privacy among true uppers. To quote the late American social critic Paul Fussell:

[quote]There are very few occasions when [italic]The Official Preppy Handbook[/italic] goes off the rails, but one is surely when it recommends initials and monograms as in any way classy... [bold]No matter what class exhibits them, monograms suggest some doubt about one's importance, some need to impress an audience.[/bold]

by Anonymousreply 403February 20, 2019 10:14 PM

(402) Have you a direct link? I've had a few vinos and RG is always a bit teeny tiny complicated for daily lens wearers, after wine, late at night. Get me in there!

by Anonymousreply 404February 20, 2019 10:17 PM

Why is Gayle King there?

I thought she wanted to be taken more seriously.

Not any more.

by Anonymousreply 405February 20, 2019 10:18 PM

R402 - I'm terrible at links.

by Anonymousreply 406February 20, 2019 10:27 PM

My mind is still boggling over that penthouse - 10,000 square feet. Ten thousand! That's like five good-sized ranch houses, or two stately homes. Unbelievable.

by Anonymousreply 407February 20, 2019 10:28 PM

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by Anonymousreply 408February 20, 2019 10:42 PM

Problem with social influencers like Jessica, Serena, and wannabes like Meghan, is that they confuse being consumers of trendy fashion with having genuine style. Dressing for attention and label whoring is not stylish, it's tacky. Even just 20 years ago someone like Jessica's aesthetics would never be shoved onto national stage as "stylist". Yet sadly there she is today.

Jessica and Meghan are worse than Kardashian family. At least Kardashians never pretend to have good taste or style, they own up to being trashier than the city dump. Meghan however, has the very same aesthetics but hides behind pretentious aspirations. This is why she has never and will never look stylish or even fashionable.

by Anonymousreply 409February 20, 2019 10:44 PM

I think Meghan Markle may have done the impossible: superseded Crown Princess Mary of Denmark in the Royal Dish Royal Gossip club's hate books.

by Anonymousreply 410February 20, 2019 10:56 PM

I dabbled a bit in Royal Gossip Forums just now, and there was a link to a blog which contrasts the nose on the possible decoy Meghan wearing the newsboy hat, and it shows that the ring she is wearing has a different shaped band. You have to scroll to almost the end to see it.

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by Anonymousreply 411February 20, 2019 11:02 PM

Who the hell is Torontopaper?

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by Anonymousreply 412February 20, 2019 11:03 PM

Torygraph has an article on the baby shower, not behind the paywall with comments

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by Anonymousreply 413February 20, 2019 11:16 PM

Make room for me on the Disapproval Bandwagon (as opposed to the Haters Bandwagon).

I closed my eyes. I asked myself, "Self, if this were about Kate would I think "Oh my! the life they lead" and enjoy the glamour of it all? Or, would I think to myself, "Wtf? A baby shower is, at bottom, a shakedown. The distasteful spectacle of ANY member of the Royal Family either hosting or being hosted for one is beyond sickening."

It's the latter. Ugh. Markle ( and I notice I didn't use my usual "DoS") is Fucking. Up.

If only she would realize that to hold back, to create mystery, to keep'em wondering is the ultimate in celebrity for her very particularized person and unique station.

That, however, takes depth, daring, a sense of substance and an awareness that in this age of ubiquitous social media presence their is a growing backlash to it, and soon the ultimate in status will be to NOT be all over the goddamn place.

Of course, all this is premised on my belief that she knows that, right now, SHE HAS IT ALL, WILL NOT FUCK UP, BEHAVE ACCORDINGLY and follow the goddamn rules. Now I'm beginning to wonder if my premise is wrong, and, as a lot you here are saying, this marraige is a way station for her, the destination is without Prince Harry.

I wrote in an earlier post that how she plays her cards in a divorce will determine whether she will become the wife of a hedge-fund ka-billionaire who would see his own status enhanced by taking the ex-wife of Prince Harry as a wife, or, whether she'll be an over -the -hill extra woman that nobody wants around.

And she certainly won't have Wendi Deng's dough-ray-mee to spare her the latter humiliation.

As for QE II having "a talk" with Harry, screw that. Far be it from me to tell HM how to approach this, but I'll do so anyway. She should plainly say to the DoS, "This is what I see. This is how you correct it. And if the Prince and your marriage mean something to you, I expect you to adjust accordingly. "

by Anonymousreply 414February 20, 2019 11:25 PM

Abigail Spencer isn't a bad actor but she's got those different tapes of herself splashed across the 'net fiddling her twat and breathily whispering, "Go down on me baby, go down on me..."

Yeppers, MEghan certainly surrounds herself with friends of the "klassy" kind.

by Anonymousreply 415February 20, 2019 11:42 PM

Right after the wedding, I was actually rooting for Meghan. I was hoping she and Harry would be happy, and she would start adapting to life as a Royal Duchess. But she didn't seem to modify her hair, wardrobe or behavior, and after some time, I've begun to believe it's not just a 'learning curve', but she simply doesn't care to fit in. Then someone posted some convincing evidence of merchandising, and that really disgusted me. This baby shower in NYC has really pushed my opinion completely over the edge. What an incredibly vulgar display, especially when the Brits are facing some real economic worries regarding Brexit. As much as I admire and respect the Queen, I'd be calling for a republic if Meghan is allowed to continue this behavior. As an American, I'm ashamed that you Brits on DL are on the hook for this kind of thing. I hope you're able to send her back where she belongs (which clearly isn't the UK).

by Anonymousreply 416February 20, 2019 11:44 PM

R412 TorontoPaper’s Twitter feed is VERY interesting. A few minutes ago they tweeted “high treason”. Could be a hoax but they seem to know a LOT about Sparkles.

by Anonymousreply 417February 20, 2019 11:47 PM

At this point, I think she's just poking the bear, hoping to accelerate the inevitable and leave brandishing a victim card.

by Anonymousreply 418February 20, 2019 11:53 PM

This bitch makes Fergie seem like Queen Victoria.

by Anonymousreply 419February 20, 2019 11:55 PM

I would have thought marrying into the BRF was her end game. Now, I’m totally convinced it’s a stepping stone.

by Anonymousreply 420February 20, 2019 11:56 PM

Beyonce proclaimed her a MELANATED MONA in a tribute for the Black History Month. More like golden puss. Tacky tacky tacky.

by Anonymousreply 421February 21, 2019 12:01 AM

ah, r420, you said a lot with "I would have thought marrying into the BRF was her end game."

Me too. When this thing happened my thoughts were, "Well, good for her. There are not many moves left for a 36 years old, divorced woman C-list actor. Now she'll have position, fame and still will be before the footlights."

I've concluded that she believes that the BRF will adjust to her, rather than she having to adjust to them. She's wrong.

And, after the divorce, the final punchline will be that when it comes time for Harry to remarry, it won't be to a white, blonde, young aristocratic woman. She will be darker, younger and more beautiful and exotic than Markle. Talk about inflicting the deepest blow.

by Anonymousreply 422February 21, 2019 12:16 AM

R420 R422 Can't believe I'm saying this but I think her endgame is US politics. Her team started floating the idea in the form of "was heard saying" right after the pale/male/stale gaffe.

by Anonymousreply 423February 21, 2019 12:18 AM

R416 you are not alone.

From DM

Jon.Net, Manchester, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago

This woman disgusts me.

by Anonymousreply 424February 21, 2019 12:19 AM

No, her endgame is something that will allow her to have wealth and fame, that's leaves politics out. Acting will not give her that, given she's past the age of hot ingenue. It would probably be something along the lines of morning show correspondent or host, she could do that part-time while still living life of idle rich with whoever dumb/ rich enough to marry her after Harry.

by Anonymousreply 425February 21, 2019 12:24 AM

This is one of the most appalling displays of privilege and cluelessness I have seen. And I recall Fergie and toe sucking.

by Anonymousreply 426February 21, 2019 12:36 AM

You'd think with all that money Amal Clooney would have her teeth fixed.

by Anonymousreply 427February 21, 2019 12:37 AM

Princess Anne is a dream come true for all women. She's 68. She's herself. No work done. Barely time for lipstick. Good for fucking her! I know she doesn't need my support because she's a honey badger, but don't you bitches pick on my honey badger's honest, natural, unrepentant face.

I think she's tremendous!

by Anonymousreply 428February 21, 2019 12:48 AM

From the Telegraph comments: How vulgar; even Simpson knew better than this. It is a sad period for our Head of State.

I don't know how she claws her way back from this.

by Anonymousreply 429February 21, 2019 1:01 AM

I am not sure she plans to or cares, R429. Markus is there, bring on Mark 4 or are we at 5? Girl is fixing to bounce.

by Anonymousreply 430February 21, 2019 1:02 AM

“...in this age of ubiquitous social media presence their is a growing backlash to it, and soon the ultimate in status will be to NOT be all over the goddamn place.”

That’s very insightful. Eventually mystery will be a valuable commodity, at least I hope so. This era just can’t go on forever, please God.

Personally, I can’t think of a better endgame than being a minor member of the British royal family. I would love it. I would behave myself and become a beloved figure in years to come. Part of history! All while enjoying a beautiful lifestyle, travel, and access to all the brilliant and creative people I could ever want to meet, plus supporting any cause dear to my heart. Sigh.

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by Anonymousreply 432February 21, 2019 1:49 AM

R421, preach. Of course, there's Harry. And having to fuck him (although if the Harry is gay rumors are true, then all bets are off. Each of us could have our SO of choice!)

BUT. Were I in Media Meg's position. I would cooperate my little ass off. First of all, nothing about the job is rocket science. Second, each day's engagement is, charitably, less than half a day's work for ordinary people, and one is chauffeured to and from. And nothing is expected but the talking points one has been fed and to be dressed properly. And what is considered a substantive bill of work for the younger royals? Four engagements a month? Perhaps, if they're really slave-driving themselves - TEN?? My stars!

Then, too, I love horses, so holidays in Balmoral would suit me down to the ground. The board games part of the festivities sound dire, but who the fuck cares. Measure that against the dullness people in regular jobs must tolerate, and it's nothing.

So, stay at home in comfort most of the month, dress up and get in the car or board the plane a few times the rest of the month, everybody throwing their cloaks across puddles and handling all of the stressful details. Then multiple times a month vacation somewhere warm or go skiing.

Why is she fucking this up?

by Anonymousreply 433February 21, 2019 2:35 AM

She's fucking it up because she's not as smart as she thinks she is. When this became a grift I don't know for sure, but this display in New York is either about post game or the week she jumped the shark. In any event, this won't last forever. What she doesn't realize is she isn't destined for great fame, she's destined for Dancing with the Stars. If she's lucky.

by Anonymousreply 434February 21, 2019 2:38 AM

Does the Duchess have any idea how quickly the Clooneys and they Winfrey-Kings are going to drop her ass when she is no longer in the Royal family? It will be so much fun to watch her turn into Fergie overnight.

by Anonymousreply 435February 21, 2019 2:48 AM

My bet: the soon-to-be divorced Duchess already has an NYC pad. I mean, like, she's going to shamelessly spend the UK tax payers' money to have the shower gifts flown to the UK; or her mother has an NYC pad for the soon-to-be divorced Duchess' landing pad?

by Anonymousreply 436February 21, 2019 3:04 AM

I hope she is booed in public. It may be the only way to get through to her. Or the royal family.

The country is close to political chaos, there could be an economic rupture that no one can really predict the extent of and Markle Antoinette is jetting off to America on a private plan to spend days in a mega dollar suite.

I can't believe she hasn't given up.

I can't wait for the next poll of rankings within the RF.

by Anonymousreply 437February 21, 2019 3:15 AM

Fan fiction time!

H: Ah, there's my darling, home again. Looked like you had quite a time with the girls. Come here, give us a kiss.

M: I'm, like, super tired. Can we talk in the morning?

by Anonymousreply 438February 21, 2019 3:30 AM

If she had any interest or desire to stick around, she’d be towing the line to the best of her ability.

If she were in love, she’d still be in that early stage where you’re trying for your partner. That place where his family comes over for dinner and when his mom comments that “I never knew Harry to like his meat well done,” she smiles and says, “ you’ll have to teach me your tricks, I’m famous for overlooking.” It should be at least two more years before the “that critical bitch is NOT coming in our house” sets in.

If she wanted the job long term, and joining the FIRM is a job, she’d be putting her best foot forward like any eager new hire. When you’re newly hired to your dream gig, you’re ten minutes early, last one to leave, dressing impeccably. It’s at least six months before you’re bitching about those assholes in marketing who barely work 30 hours a week or how Ginny in billing only got that promotion because she’s blowing one of the VPs.

If she cared about Harry or the job, she’d be absorbing some of the advice in that press we know she reads.

by Anonymousreply 439February 21, 2019 3:50 AM

J’adore and totally agree with r428!

by Anonymousreply 440February 21, 2019 5:02 AM

Still flummoxed as to how this thoroughly mediocre and plain Jane managed to cone this far.

Pussy control?

by Anonymousreply 441February 21, 2019 5:28 AM

(417) I would love to know more about those posts on TorontoPaper's Twitter. Creepily juicy.

by Anonymousreply 442February 21, 2019 5:41 AM

There are too many ordinary people in the UK who can barely afford a family day out. This trip has been a public flaunting of privilege from start to finish. She has crossed so many lines on this trip. It is unacceptable and disgusting.

by Anonymousreply 443February 21, 2019 6:18 AM

[quote]Still flummoxed as to how this thoroughly mediocre and plain Jane managed to come this far.

Ah, but she's not mediocre, R441. Although she was in the right place at the right time, that in itself wouldn't have been enough to close the deal with Harry. In her almost delusional arrogance and entitlement, she was, and remains, extraordinary.

by Anonymousreply 444February 21, 2019 6:21 AM

'This trip . . This trip' . Poor edit, argh. Too tired, too angry. Torontopaper Twitter Interesting, agree.

by Anonymousreply 445February 21, 2019 6:22 AM

TorontoPaper is clearly NYCRealRoyal. I recognise the extremely poor sentence construction.

No actual, credible insider woukd drop nonsense like that on Twitter any more than they would on Tumblr.

by Anonymousreply 446February 21, 2019 6:38 AM

R444 lIn her almost delusional arrogance and entitlement, she was, and remains, extraordinary”

Yes! That is what sums her up completely.

I remember around the time that the statement came out everyone was saying that it was proof that Harry loved Meghan more than anyone else. I disagreed, and still do.

Not to say that he didn’t love her more than anyone before - but that was not the motivation for it. She is the first person he’d ever been with who would have demanded it - and given the Americanisms contained within it, she almost certainly wrote it too.

She’s not just some ex-actress a bit full of herself, I genuinely think she has an active personality disorder. She cannot see beyond her own self-interest, and genuinely thinks she’s superior to everyone, including the Queen. And I am not joking.

I agree (with whoever said) that Harry will try and hang on to avoid looking foolish,,,but she doesn’t need him, or his family or the UK. She will be gone in a year, I would bet big money on it. She wants more than she already has and she won’t get that living at Toad Hall in Windsor.

by Anonymousreply 447February 21, 2019 6:51 AM

So, the DM has identified her private jet which, apparently, rents for $125K for each led of the transatlantic trip.

So has she sorely miscalculated how much the RF and the British public will tolerate, or is she really being provocative in order to cut the marriage short so she can further continue to grow her brand once Sohobebe has been weaned?

by Anonymousreply 448February 21, 2019 7:37 AM

WOW 250000 quid for the private jet for flying to NY and back . The stay in the hotel . The clothes . The penthouse I don’t now she has to pay for that where the babyshower was . The gifts for the guests . The security . A staggering 400000 quid all togheter . The British taxpayer will be thrilled to pay for that .

by Anonymousreply 449February 21, 2019 9:16 AM

She doesn't seem to care what the BRF or the British public think. It's not clear whether Harry agrees with her actions or not. She has her fanbase (ugh) who will defend her no matter what and that is who she plays to. Her base seems to be a mixture of low income middle aged (the kind who think the Kardashians, the Real Housewives and other label whores are 'classy') and some middle income middle aged women who weirdly feel defensive about this con artist.

by Anonymousreply 450February 21, 2019 9:50 AM

Wow. Why doesn’t she just borrow Millenia’s ‘I don’t care’ jacket and be done with it.

by Anonymousreply 451February 21, 2019 9:52 AM

R451 the self important bitch did wear a hat that said "RECTIFY", close enough.

by Anonymousreply 452February 21, 2019 10:03 AM

Most of her fans are tweens and teens of working-and-middle class background. Mostly white, btw, with a sprinkle of biracial, black and other (asian, pacific islander etc).

Similar fanbase that the kk's have, curiously.

We (british taxpayers) only pay for her security. Which we would pay regardless if she was stuck at home all day eating bon bons. They don't get paid based on how often they go outside. They have their monthly wage. Doubt we paid for the private jet. I think her baby shower was sponsored.

by Anonymousreply 453February 21, 2019 10:21 AM

So the rest of the money is paid for by who ? Dimwit and his ho ? They don.t have money for that . It will be Charles who’s gonna pick up the tab for that . And If Charles pays for it its gonna be taxpayers money . He is not gonna fork over 300000 quid out of his own money !

by Anonymousreply 454February 21, 2019 11:04 AM

She’s back home for two days and then off to Morocco with Harry. You know she is going to go in to labor “early” and come back with no hint of pregnancy weight and an appropriately light brown baby in tow.

by Anonymousreply 455February 21, 2019 11:20 AM

Three comments that I think summon up the risk she has created here:

Many more people are starting to wake up to these freeloaders.

The Royals have never flaunted their wealth or connections in this way.

Enough is enough, the palace need to explain the amount of money this woman is being allowed to spend. People are living in poverty in Britain, this is unacceptable!

Now we wait for the inevitable Piers Morgan column (I predict the Sunday Mail). But every publication will chase this. She's really stepped in it.

by Anonymousreply 456February 21, 2019 11:44 AM

R454 I doubt either she or Harry have paid for any of it, including the jet. Amal & Serena are stinking rich...either or both paid, is my guess.

All tax payers paid for was the security - Brits & Americans

Still a repulsively ostentatious display, no matter who is paying.

by Anonymousreply 457February 21, 2019 11:48 AM

Ok, I'll take a stab at QE II Fan Fiction:

QE II ( soliloquy): God, if you please, I'll remain alive. I'll remain alive until the divorce is complete. I'll die then. My State Funeral will be broadcast to my commonwealth and around the world; billions, I'm told, will watch.

At my written command, Ms. Markle is not invited. If I change my mind and decide she will be, she is relegated to a seat at the doors of the Abbey (fade to dark, a single light illuminating the Sovereign's face, then dark.)

The DoS better adjust her behavior because, as the wife of a grandson of the QE II seated in the 1st or 2nd row at QE II's State Funeral, she'll be alone in her tacky LA house, ignored.

And she ain't gonna like that.

by Anonymousreply 458February 21, 2019 11:57 AM

Maybe she was an agent put in place to bring down the monarchy, lol? Maybe Markus really is her handler. Hmmm...

by Anonymousreply 459February 21, 2019 11:57 AM

[quote] My State Funeral will be broadcast to my commonwealth and around the world; billions, I'm told, will watch.

In R458's fan fic the queen is as delusional as the Markles.

by Anonymousreply 460February 21, 2019 12:20 PM

The DM homepage is having a field day with maths at the Duchess's expense. The photos, the numbers, her Fuck You I'm Tired Of Pretending This Isn't What I Live For You Don't Like It Too Bad in your face baring of the real soul of Meghan Markle, the two fingers up to Britain, the Queen, the monarchy, the UK taxpayers . . . as she cradles that bump that she clearly does to remind the BRF that she's got them by the short hairs . . .

If the BRF aren't holding private meetings and Harry isn't sitting home waiting for the axe to fall now, then the monarchy deserves its damage.

She makes Diana look like the founder of a leper colony in Africa.

And that's because, in truth, Diana for all her narcissism, really did evidence her pedigree, however unconsciously, and Meghan Markle can't do anything but evidence her lack thereof.

As Malcolm Tucker would so succinctly have put it, this marriage was, "A mistake so big it can be seen from outer space."

It's staggering how bad the optics are here. Just simply staggering.

by Anonymousreply 461February 21, 2019 12:45 PM

She is like the trashiest of reality stars, oh wait, she is one!

by Anonymousreply 462February 21, 2019 12:51 PM

The "most expensive hotel room in America".......flying with Amal Clooney and the twins on a private jet......it reads like parody, or a Jackie Collins novel. To think that a few short years ago, this was a struggling actress. Imagine the chill in the room t at the next family gathering. But hey - she's got Diana's grandchild, deal with it.

by Anonymousreply 463February 21, 2019 12:53 PM

And when Amal Clooney is picking up the bill of this shitfest she will expect something back for it ! Godmother of the coming baby etc etc etc . Acces to the royal family and so on

by Anonymousreply 464February 21, 2019 12:54 PM

I don’t think she has Diana s grandchild in her belly . She does let us think she has a baby on board . The baby that’s gonna be presented at the Lindo wing will not be hers . It will be of PH and somebody else I think .

by Anonymousreply 465February 21, 2019 12:57 PM

R449 - The British taxpayer is likely not paying for all that. But that isn't the point: the British taxpayer IS paying for a good deal else for this crass grifter, starting with three million quid to renovate her fucking cottage. 3,500 soon to be unemployed auto workers in Swindon are amongst those taxpayers. What do you suppose they think as they open the DM and see the third rate actress divorced L.A. grifter turned duchess lapping up luxury like a thirsty lioness at the edge of the forest pool?

In John Galsworthy's "The Forsyte Saga", the author compares at one point a single gesture revealing the truth of a larger situation, like a candle passed behind a canvas with a little pinhole in it, and as it passes behind the little pinhole, it illuminates everything.

This jaunt is something like that pinole, passed behind the canvas of Meghan Markle's persona, and illuminating who she really is. It has made clear who she really is and her reasons for marrying Harry/

The question is, has this sublimely illuminating escapade illuminated the truth to Harry? Or is he still pathetically fighting off the truth?

by Anonymousreply 466February 21, 2019 12:58 PM

Fan fiction. Breakfast this morning at NottCott

Harry (hesitantly): Soooo......just you are aware. There's been a bit of pushback about the cost of everything.

Meghan: Pushback? From whom?

H: Well. Papa said something. And Will, actually. And the papers have been making a bit of a fuss.

M: That's bullshit. Serena and Amal were incredibly generous. What's the problem?

H: I understand, I understand. I'm just giving you a bit of a heads up.

M: It's fine. Don't worry about it.

by Anonymousreply 467February 21, 2019 1:03 PM

^ I forgot to add for Meghan, (whilst munching avocado toast)

by Anonymousreply 468February 21, 2019 1:05 PM

R460 - I'm not sure that at this point the fan fic isn't on point. The Queen has worked all her life to preserve the integrity of the institution to which she knows she and her family owe everything. She hasn't always been able to fend off damage, it is true, and she seems to be particularly hamstrung where her relatives are concerned. To a certain extent, her reluctance to use her position to strongarm relatives is understandable; but there comes a point when that stance becomes more costly than taking a stand would have been.

Asking taxpayers to fund any portion of this woman's lifestyle after this display is to hoist the "Them that has, gets" flag up the monarchy's mast, in place of the painstakingly achieved, "We are about duty to the nation and to tradition than wealth and privilege" banner.

Meghan Markle has stripped the illusion away. The Queen was delusional not to refuse permission for this marriage, probably aided and abetted by Charles. Only William had the balls for some straight talk with his brother. And we know how that went.

The word schadenfreude comes to mind.

by Anonymousreply 469February 21, 2019 1:08 PM

I can't help but wonder if Doria's absence is due to her maybe trying to gently counsel her little narcissist to conform a bit to her new role and Duchess of Narc reacted badly and is giving her the cold shoulder til she falls back into the adoration line. On the other hand, I'm probably stretching as it was her mother who told her not to bother with people who can't do anything for her....so probably doubtful her mother is trying to advise her to behave to keep the gig.

I actually do think she's in it for the long run and her delusions make her believe she can do as she pleases AND keep the gig...best of both worlds....have her cake and eat it too....rules don't apply to her.

by Anonymousreply 470February 21, 2019 1:10 PM

This coming on the heels of George Clooney's sanctimonious white-knighting (and Harry's own casual use of a private plane the other day), leaves a particularly sour taste. It's really something.

"Darling, a commercial flight? I won't hear of it. George and I insist we take the plane."

Poor Charles, in a way. He thought all this drama was behind him.

by Anonymousreply 471February 21, 2019 1:13 PM

R471 - "Poor Charles, in a way. He thought all this drama was behind him."

As it says in the Old Testament, ". . . visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the sons, unto the third and fourth generation."

by Anonymousreply 472February 21, 2019 1:19 PM

In other news...

The middleton-goldsmiths have a nazi in the family. James middleton, the brother of our keen kate.

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by Anonymousreply 473February 21, 2019 1:39 PM

R465 lol as if she'd allow anyone else's dna. She wants HER genes mixed with Harry's.

Otherwise, what is the point? One dna sample from hair/saliva would expose the truth and then she'd really be in trouble.

Nope, baby will definitely be 100% hers and Harry's.

by Anonymousreply 474February 21, 2019 2:02 PM

Can't wait for the lavish "welcome home" parties that will eventually be thrown in LA.

by Anonymousreply 475February 21, 2019 2:08 PM

R469 It is delusional for the queen to say "my commonwealth" or billions will watch her funeral. She doesn't rule the commonwealth and most of its residents couldn't give a rat's ass about the royals. Billions will see the funeral in the news or hear about it, but it's doubtful billions (plural) will actively watch it. That's all R460 meant.

The BRF has little integrity to preserve. Duty and service are brand words, they hardly represent the actual behaviour of the BRF. Meghan's gaudy display highlights the disparity between them and the public by translating their wealth into language the rest of society understands.

That aside, when I saw that girl took a private plane to haul her loot home I fell over laughing. 🤣💀

by Anonymousreply 476February 21, 2019 2:15 PM

[quote]the brother of our keen kate.

What is a "keen kate"?

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by Anonymousreply 478February 21, 2019 2:23 PM

R476 “Duty and service are brand words, they hardly represent the actual behaviour of the BRF” That may be true of some members but it most certainly isn’t of HM or Princess Anne, or even Charles.

And Meghan’s “gaudy display” says nothing whatsoever about anyone other than Meghan. Not even Andrew behaves like that.

by Anonymousreply 479February 21, 2019 2:30 PM

So the "mandarin tree" is an actual mandarin orange tree, a symbol of good luck. Okay, are you allowed to bring plants/fruits into the UK? The US customs form seems to frown upon such things.

by Anonymousreply 480February 21, 2019 2:46 PM

R476 - "The BRF has little integrity to preserve. Duty and service are brand words, they hardly represent the actual behaviour of the BRF. Meghan's gaudy display highlights the disparity between them and the public by translating their wealth into language the rest of society understands."

I think it has more than you give it credit for, given the (to me) still astonishing level of support every poll reveals the monarchy still has - the institution, that is. Just the same, point taken, and all the more reason to avoid displays like the one Meghan Markle just put on.

And the problem is, part of that "language the rest of society understands" includes members of society like the soon to be unemployed autoworkers in Swindon - whose taxes are included in the Sovereign Grant that is paying for Meghan's luxurious home.

Those who forget the lessons of history, etc., etc. There is still quite a bit of damage left to do, and Meghan Markle isn't helping. The Queen knows it, Charles knows it, the Cambridges - who will in reality take the hit to the damage to the institution as they take over, something I sometimes suspect Megan is maliciously well aware of, she knows it won't impact her little patch down the road - know it. Probably the rest of European monarchies are looking at it, appalled, too.

It was an out and out moment of major embarrassment for the BRF, no matter how you slice it, inflicted by someone who really believes that the ring on her finger and the bun in the oven make her invulnerable.

She's wrong - just the way Marie Antoinette and Louis XVI were wrong, the Hapsburgs were wrong, and Nicholas and Alexandra were wrong.

by Anonymousreply 481February 21, 2019 2:47 PM

R 478 - she must have been really really holding her breath when she was with Markus Anderson

by Anonymousreply 482February 21, 2019 2:47 PM

R477 - "Keen" is a word used by Kaiser and the Celebitchy crowd to mock Kate Middleton - they call her Katie Keen when KP releases information about her work, as in, "The Duchess of Cambridge is keen to work with and highlight . . ."

by Anonymousreply 483February 21, 2019 2:51 PM

Don't forget we showed Charles I how wrong he was in 1649.

by Anonymousreply 484February 21, 2019 2:52 PM

James Middleton is no more a Nazi than Kaiser herself is or the social media giants who had to be prodded to take down hate speech. I doubt Middleton has the passion for political affiliation or could name the Axis powers or the year of the start of WW if asked at a dinner party. It was about money. George Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany. I doubt Prescott Bush was a Nazi, either.

It's about money. It always is.

by Anonymousreply 485February 21, 2019 2:55 PM

R484 - LOL.

"He nothing common did or mean/Upon that memorable scene."

by Anonymousreply 486February 21, 2019 2:57 PM

R477 I don't know where it originated from but I remember first reading it in the comment section in the daily fail, you know, before the revisionists whitewashed The Keen One. They've now turned their ha....attention to megs.

Kate's PR always announces how "keen" she is to do this and that but her keenness is very rarely materialized in the seven years she's been duchess. All talk, no action....well, now she's sort of kicked into gear, gee wonder why.

by Anonymousreply 487February 21, 2019 2:59 PM

R487 - It isn't the revisionists who whitewashed Kate - it was Meghan Markle.

The plan was always, despite the tabs' mockery, to let Kate and William establish and spend time with a young family before stepping it up. Meghan Markle has nothing to do with it and frankly, her work ethic isn't any different from Kate's. The Cambridge family is now complete, William is being taught the management of the Duchy of Cornwall, the Queen is now in her nineties, and everyone knows it's time.

Reports of the wondrous effect of Meghan Markle over the BRF and Kate Middleton have been vastly exaggerated.

In fact, everything is going in the determined direction for the Cambridges. It's the Sussex bitch who's gone rogue.

by Anonymousreply 488February 21, 2019 3:07 PM

Kate stepping up seems like good, natural timing. She's had her kids, the Queen is winding down.....and conveniently, there's a new villainess on the scene, a stark contrast to play against.

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by Anonymousreply 491February 21, 2019 3:10 PM

I like Camilla. In my admittedly silly fantasies, she and I get along like a house on fire. All the others aren't bitchy enough, and Anne is too formidable, I'd be scared of her. Diana would have been fun to hang out with in moderation, but too draining. Camilla seems just right.

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by Anonymousreply 494February 21, 2019 3:17 PM

R491 - They are on holiday because the kids are off from school this week. It's, you know, not uncommon to do that in families? I'm sure it's quite expensive, but you will note that there isn't a lavish display of money and the holiday is quiet and private - unlike Meghan Markle's little jaunt to the Big Apple with her very rich celebrity friends.

by Anonymousreply 495February 21, 2019 3:24 PM

R493 - Pathetic. As if flower arrangements that are going to die in a couple of days put food in anyone's stomach, pay the gas bill, etc. She really is the most pretentious creature ever to set foot in Albion.

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by Anonymousreply 497February 21, 2019 3:31 PM

Princess Charlotte has a flower named after her too!

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by Anonymousreply 498February 21, 2019 3:33 PM

I like Charlotte's flower. Pink and green, very preppy.

by Anonymousreply 499February 21, 2019 3:34 PM

Darfur Orphan wept copiously. Oh wait--never mind. He's too dehydrated to even cry. Meghan would probably say that it good as it saves on diapers since he can barely urinate.

I am really surprised there were no demonstrations. This display was far more than vulgar. It was truly insensitive when you think of the good that could have been done with the amount of money spent to indulge her. This is Marie Antoinette kind of behavior.

I was a bit of a Meghan apologist, thinking that she just didn't "get it" yet. She not only gets it, she enjoys it.

by Anonymousreply 500February 21, 2019 3:40 PM

Someone as trash-tastic as MEga could not have been better imagined as contrast to a "perfect" Kate by comparison. I would be interested to see if ANYONE in the BRF is willing to appear in public with the Sussexes ever again one on one (especially Camilla), beyond the formal Trooping of the Colour, Remembrance Day, christenings and Christmas/Easter, etc. I suspect royals on the continent are just as appalled by her tacky conduct. HazBean are set to go to Morocco but no King of Morocco nor PM is scheduled to meet and greet them on the itinerary. The closest they get is Sharif Moulay Abdellah Alaoui , cousin of King Mohammed VI , and President of the Moroccan Royal Federation of Equestrian Sports. The Sussexes are simply attending an equestrian event where the Sharif is always presen anyway. Royalty aren't going to lay out their good carpet for these two trailer park celebrities.

by Anonymousreply 501February 21, 2019 3:43 PM

R501 - the Morocco trip is a complete waste of time, money and energy.

by Anonymousreply 502February 21, 2019 3:45 PM

OMG. Nutmeg looks like she's wearing a spandex onesie bodysuit underneath her coat.

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by Anonymousreply 503February 21, 2019 3:48 PM

You're very naive if you think Meghan is the only one who enjoys the finer things in life.

They all do it. But unlike Meg, they do it privately and without celebs.

That includes Keen, The rottweiler, Anne the snob (who wouldn't spit on you if you were on fire), and yes,even her majesty.

At least Meghan's friends paid for this one. And sponsors i bet.

by Anonymousreply 504February 21, 2019 3:52 PM

Baby Lady Louise receives a Christmas gift from the Queen.

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by Anonymousreply 505February 21, 2019 3:53 PM

But it keeps MEghan Antoinette from spending a further hundreds of pounds flying privately to L.A. to flaunt herself on the Oscar stage mugging couture gowns and jewels and attending the myriad A List parties she always dreamed of.

Maybe not the best solution to stop her in her tracks, but stop her in this case it did.

by Anonymousreply 506February 21, 2019 3:54 PM

R504 - the key word is DISCRETION. Meghan doesn't know the meaning of the word so she has none.

by Anonymousreply 507February 21, 2019 3:54 PM

Yes of course they all live it up. That’s why what Meghan is doing is problematic. She’s blowing it all up.

by Anonymousreply 508February 21, 2019 3:55 PM

Meghan doesn't care because GB is not where her game ends, it's always going to be NYC or LA that's big enough for that narcissist. BRF is a mean to the end, any children she has with Dim One will be souvenirs she trots out as reminders of her position in life. She is a certified, grade-A narcissist who is bringing to public attention just how hated and disposable the RF can be if they act like celebrities.

by Anonymousreply 509February 21, 2019 3:56 PM

I also don't want to hear about climate change the next time that bitch opens her mouth about it, that along with being animal lover and humanitarian.

by Anonymousreply 510February 21, 2019 3:57 PM

I don't care about "DISCRETION!!11".

I'm paying for it so you might as well show me what I bought.

by Anonymousreply 511February 21, 2019 3:59 PM

R511 - then I'm sure you and Nutmeg would get on like a house on fire.

by Anonymousreply 512February 21, 2019 4:02 PM

Her game now is to continue her celeb lifestyle, complete with extravagance and celeb friends mutually mooching off of each other. She knows the British public will hate her even more, thereby giving her more ammo to play victim privately to Harry and later on, when it's time to kick rocks, she'll play victim card at hands of British public. She'll be all over American media portraying herself as saintly second coming of Diana, albeit the one who lived to tell her story. Just you wait, this will happen.

by Anonymousreply 513February 21, 2019 4:02 PM

R511 I like to see what we bought at state banquets and such. Gowns, tiaras, pageantry etc. not tacky hen parties

by Anonymousreply 514February 21, 2019 4:08 PM

R514 - The tiaras are almost all old private property, historic jewels, gifts from other countries (like the Gulf State billionaires) so, no "we" didn't buy them. State banquets are, as the name trumpets, on behalf of the State and furthering relationships with other Heads of State and Government. That's the work the Sovereign is supposed to be doing. And yes, the pageantry, flowers, food, etc., are part of what is paid for by the State.

It's a bit different from personal indulgence. Kate doesn't "own" the Cambridge Lover's Knot tiara - she only gets to wear it. It's paid for long ago during the reign of George V.

If you want to howl at something, howl at that obscene tax deal the Windsors got during that same era, and that allowed them to hold onto more of their money, put it to work for them in the modern financial system, and end up close to billionaires themselves.

I don't have a problem with a Head of State wearing a 19th century tiara to welcome another Head of State.

I do have a problem with every miner in Wales being expected to pay what he's told to, whilst the Windsors got to make "voluntary contributions" - set by themselves.

by Anonymousreply 515February 21, 2019 4:21 PM

Kate is just as phony as MM. It is just much better hidden. She is a phony, bony cunt.

by Anonymousreply 516February 21, 2019 4:25 PM

Good grief Lainey and her ilk are going all in, they're crowing about the weird Beyonce acceptance video with MM's portrait in the background, how she and Jay Z are sending a 'message' to the Beygency followers to unequivocally support MM and 'swarm' her enemies ie. attack all the online accounts of UK royal reporters or others who criticize her fair or not.

Lainey thinks this is a "war" of some kind, one that the BRF, their courtiers, the UK government and anti-Beans can't win (!). I kid you not, read her posts today it's unreal. Does she not see the god-awful further harm this crap will cause Meghan in the UK, further damaging her image? I think she really believes the UK Home Office or KP/BP are afraid of Beyonce fans, and will bow to their craziness. I am speechless.

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by Anonymousreply 518February 21, 2019 4:28 PM

I’m not surprised there isn’t an audience planned for The King of Morocco and the two dimwits. They’re low on the royal pecking order. The audience with The King and Queen of Tonga was different, it was an official tour and they were representing The Queen. ME managed to fuck that up with her shitty curtsy.

In contrast, look at how former party monster, waitress, and unwed mother Crown Princess Mette Marit managed to learn it.

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by Anonymousreply 519February 21, 2019 4:31 PM

Wow that is a lovely curtsy, like ballet. I thought it was Goop at first.

by Anonymousreply 520February 21, 2019 4:35 PM

R513 spot on. I'm didn't go to lainey and don't intend to but I made the mistake of going on celebitchy. Good lord I feel sick. Theyre loving what Beyonce did and are relishing a war in which meghan and her Hollywood friends win and will and Kate and British people lose. And now it's like they want the beehive to ruin will and Kate. I really think meghan and her gang want her to be queen and will do whatever.

It's really leaving a bad taste is my mouth and making me uncomfortable. I wish the queen would do something. She's being disrespected also. Meghan and Harry are loving this. His wife as the spare is getting all the attention. The headlines are about her. The celebs give them attention, she doesn't care that it's negative. I feel bad for will and Kate because meghan is creating a bully will and Kate agenda on a international scale. Please tell me this nonsense will stop sson.

by Anonymousreply 521February 21, 2019 4:36 PM

R519 - the King and Queen of Spain were in Morocco last week for a two-day visit and they were seen with the King of Morocco and his family. Of course, they're the monarchs and I believe that Felipe's family have been friendly with the Moroccan royals for years.

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by Anonymousreply 522February 21, 2019 4:37 PM

It’s not hard to understand why Markle got this so wrong. She thinks all the gifts and free stuff shows how “loved” she is. She doesn’t understand it doesn’t mean anything to these celebs. For them, it’s just an excuse to have a party.

If you start thinking like a small child, it’s much easier to understand why she makes all these mistakes.

I’d give a lot to know the real story of her childhood. Being dragged around work sites by a lunkheaded father doesn’t sound like a great life for a kid. Of course, lots of us had shitty parents and managed to not be as pathological as Sparkle.

by Anonymousreply 523February 21, 2019 4:39 PM

Kate comes from a family of glorified travelers.

by Anonymousreply 524February 21, 2019 4:42 PM

Does anyone actually believe the Queen or KP or BP actually care what Beyonce fans say or think? Like they won't use that kind of crass behavior to further diminish Nutmeg in their estimation.

These idiots think the palaces or the UK tabs and their reporters are like Kid Rock or other celebs who've run afoul of Bey fans, who might bend to their will. But even Kid Rock didn't bend and take it.

by Anonymousreply 525February 21, 2019 4:43 PM

But these celebs and lainey and kaiser think the power is all with meghan now. I just wish the truth would come out and her Hollywood gang are humbled and put in their place. I wish her and Harry just become irrelevant. Not even bad press because she just loves any attention.

If I were william and as I gain more power I would use it for evil against meghans hollywood gang. I don't care about royalty as a royalist but I'm really rooting for will and Kate now. They are being treated badly and meghan is planning and manipulating Beyonce, Clooneys etc to bully them and destroy them. I hope that if these people ever meet will and Kate they will be nice to them and not nasty as meghan wants.

by Anonymousreply 526February 21, 2019 4:49 PM

First of all, George Clooney isn't all that powerful and he certainly doesn't have any toehold in UK power circles or with the BRF. I get that he feels Nutmeg is suffering from possibly unfair or slanted media coverage and he perhaps relates to this (he spoke about this in the wake of Diana's death yrs ago) - and he's entitled to his opinion but really that's all it is.

That MM is resorting to showing off her few, new celeb pals (can anyone tell me who Abigail Spencer is lol? also, Gayle King isn't A-list) in a public display in the media capital of the world shows you that she has little to know power and is fully feeling this. This isn't going to make a dent in the negative UK media coverage, and I guarantee will see them rachet up their work all the more.

And it will absolutely have a negative effect on Meg's standing in the BRF too, and this is what I can't fathom. Did she marry Harry for love and a family, or for the attention? It's a more than fair question now.

by Anonymousreply 527February 21, 2019 4:56 PM

Fuck Beyoncé anyway. I can’t stand her.

by Anonymousreply 528February 21, 2019 4:58 PM

Marlene isn’t covering the shower in her blog, weird. Usually she keeps up with events if she had an opinion on them, which she clearly does based on her Twitter.

by Anonymousreply 529February 21, 2019 5:01 PM

I understand that the BRF owns a great deal of property (both realty and personalty) on a private basis. However, I suspect I am correct is assuming that everything purchased and held privately was paid for by money they obtained, in one way or another, from working people. I don't think any of them ever went down to the local fish and chips shop to work for tiara money.

by Anonymousreply 530February 21, 2019 5:05 PM

R524 - Actually, on her mother's side it was coal miners, and on her father's respectable middle-class. They worked hard and did well. All royalty is phony - you think they all like smiling all day?

Meanwhile, Kate hasn't had to reinvent herself. She grew up a middle-class Home Counties girl, and that's pretty much who she still presents as. She has ten time the authenticity of Meghan Markle who has spent her life trying to be somebody else.

Nice try, though.

by Anonymousreply 531February 21, 2019 5:17 PM

Being called out by the environmentalists might actually get Harry's attention.

by Anonymousreply 532February 21, 2019 5:19 PM

[quote]I don't have a problem with a Head of State wearing a 19th century tiara to welcome another Head of State.

You do, however, have a problem with Random Capitalization.

by Anonymousreply 533February 21, 2019 5:20 PM

R533 - Yes, I'm a Free-Wheeling Random Capitalist. :)

by Anonymousreply 534February 21, 2019 5:34 PM

R521 - Yes, it's quite amazing reading CB and seeing how many of those fraus really think people like Beyonce and Jay-Z and George Clooney carry some weight with the British monarchy, and worse, that a cheap, sleazy PR frenzy is something that will do Meghan Markle any good, except in L.A.

That said, the British monarchy's PR machine and that of the Cambridges and the courtiers are probably right now circling the wagons to figure out a way to deal, not with Beyonce and Jay-Z and Clooney, but with Meghan herself. I find it difficult to believe they haven't called Harry in by now to "discuss" the issue of his wife obvious Fuck You attitude.

I'd give a good deal to be a fly on the wall for some of those discussions. If they aren't occurring, they should be - and if they're not, the BRF is in worse shape than I thought.

by Anonymousreply 535February 21, 2019 5:40 PM

No offence to any of the (very smart) Americans here....but Kaiser & Lainey do represent a fundamental lack of understanding that exists across the pond as to what the monarchy is actually supposed to be about. That goes for most of Markle’s rabid, immature fans too.

They can sit there and crow as much as they like about Markle getting more column inches than Kate but they are too fucking stupid to understand that, in the final reckoning, Kate will win. Actually, she’s already winning...hands down.

The BRF are not celebrities and we don’t want them to behave as if they are. We don’t want them in Givenchy except on very special occassions & we don’t want them rubbing our noses in all the expensive goodies they’ve got their hands on.

Kate may be “boring” but she’s doing everything right. She’s going to be Queen some day (presumably) and a history of showboating and greedy consumption would be completely at odds with what she’s supposed to represent.

Markle is nothing but a future ex-wife who’ll be looking as absurd as her balloon faced friend once she gets into face lifts in a year or so. She’s destined to be the most hated woman in the UK because no matter how much she screams “racism” post-divorce, Brits will come down on the side of Harry.

Kaiser & Lainey do nothing but embarrass with their igborance every time they post - and when it all starts to go pear shaped, they and their hysterical followers are going to look very stupid indeed.

by Anonymousreply 536February 21, 2019 5:58 PM

[quote]Markle is nothing but a future ex-wife who’ll be looking as absurd as her balloon faced friend once she gets into face lifts in a year or so.

She’s already putting crap in her lips, she’s one more injection away from full duck-face.

by Anonymousreply 537February 21, 2019 6:01 PM

Again, it's Charles' turn to attend a Buckingham Palace investiture.

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by Anonymousreply 538February 21, 2019 6:04 PM

Same look, different princess.

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by Anonymousreply 539February 21, 2019 6:12 PM

So do we think Meghan got in trouble when she rolled in this morning? After that spectacle was splashed everywhere.

by Anonymousreply 540February 21, 2019 6:24 PM

Only seven women have held the title of "Princess Royal".

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by Anonymousreply 541February 21, 2019 6:25 PM

R540 - highly doubtful that Hapless Harry would say anything to his wife. He's pussy whipped.

The hardest working royal doesn't get much press coverage today but Anne was once an international cover girl.

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by Anonymousreply 542February 21, 2019 6:27 PM

Not from Harry but the Queen. As soon as Meghan got home she pushed Dimwit on the bed and blew him.

by Anonymousreply 543February 21, 2019 6:33 PM

I find it both interesting and telling that the Queen appointed a new communications secretary, yesterday.

by Anonymousreply 544February 21, 2019 6:47 PM

Yes r536

Brits don’t want royals filming an episode of MTV CRIBS any more than Americans want it from members of Congress or the Supreme Court.

Celebrity excess and wealth makes people roll their eyes or be disgusted but in all that disgust exists the fundamental truth that they earned it. Be it selling bogus tummy tea or shitty action films, they created that wealth.

The monarchy’s wealth sustains due to merely existing, to being born in a lucky spot. Just like Americans tracing politicians lifestyles right back to their pockets, Brits trace the monarchy back to theirs.

It feels icky. It looks bad. It’s very different than a celebrity doing it. Right or wrong, whatever personal wealth they have on their own, in the mind of the public, they’re citizens scraping by to fund this shit.

by Anonymousreply 545February 21, 2019 6:51 PM

R521 oh ffs THE CLOYING DRAMA from a sugar. You really do sound near tears on behalf of Saint MeMe, poor things .

by Anonymousreply 546February 21, 2019 6:55 PM

My strong suspicion is it is hands off rebuking Sparkle until *after* the birth and subsequent christening. In the meantime, courtiers are making copious notes.

In light of this recent New York shit show, I really have to wonder if MEga is planning to name Amal and Serena as godparents? Anglican church members please correct me, are not godparents required to be adherents themselves to the church? I was under the impression a christening is a holy sacrament wherein the child is baptized and formally admitted into bonds of the church, and not some ceremonial opportunity for a parent to reward prominent friends.

by Anonymousreply 547February 21, 2019 6:57 PM

R536 - Isn't Lainey a Canadian? Why the fuck is she sticking up for celebrity losers instead of Canada's Head of State and the Head of the Commonwealth (eg. The Queen)? Yeah, Markle is a "friend" (I put that word in quotations because I don't think Lainey has heard from Sparkle since she left Toronto) but Lainey sounds like an asshole who seems to have a chip on her shoulder.

by Anonymousreply 548February 21, 2019 7:00 PM

R547 - The Queen might have something to say about the godparents. Or then again she may stick in her head in the sand and let Meghan do what she wants.

by Anonymousreply 549February 21, 2019 7:01 PM

Anne is my favorite. Love her.

Who the FUCK gives luggage as a baby shower party favor? That made me LOL. I don’t understand that. It’s not something I’d mind receiving, but it’s so odd.

Most rich people aren’t buying each other cribs and nursery furniture. You buy a silver keepsake or a tiny cashmere hoodie, a spa day for mom. To assume that the new parents can’t provide a bed for their child to sleep in is... rude.

Merching Meg didn’t open her presents at the shower, because she wanted to open them with Harry, haha. That is also rude, because the people who bring the gifts want to see the mom’s reaction and coo over the tiny luxury items. It’s the whole POINT - to “shower” the mom with gifts.

Who wants to bet all those gifts are getting returned from whence they came, by some assistant?

by Anonymousreply 550February 21, 2019 7:02 PM

R547 As ever, the good old CofE is quite benign about the god parent thing. Strictly speaking, god parents should be baptised. But an individual parish probably wouldn’t stop a Muslim or atheist stepping up.

Thing is, you have to say the words about bringing the child up in the Christian faith (or something like that) sonit wou,d be hard for anyone not at least nominally Christian to do it without being accused of hypocrisy.

by Anonymousreply 551February 21, 2019 7:03 PM

Anne was so beautiful. Thinking about it...HM, Philip, Anne, Andrew and Edward were all lookers when young.

What the fuck happened to Charles?

by Anonymousreply 552February 21, 2019 7:04 PM

To reference Danny DeVito's character, Vincent from the film Twins, Charles was the "genetic garbage" dumped out all at once in anticipation of future births.

by Anonymousreply 553February 21, 2019 7:11 PM

A couple things. On some site they are speculating the private plane belongs to Oprah and she paid the cost of the flight. Gayle being there would make sense if she was stepping in for Oprah. Supposedly the athletic suit she had on when she left for the airport is part of Serena' s clothes line that Serena was texting, instragraming about most of the week, including from the suite. So MM was merching for a friend again. I find it ridiculous anyone thinks Doria stayed away because she disapproved because I find it ridiculous that she was even asked to attend. Poor Doria is not part of her brand, doesn't look the part, and is only there when MM needs her as a prop. More than likely Doria wishes she had been invited and not left out. If MM needs help with changing diapers she will call Doria. And Doria will run and do it to see her grandchild.

by Anonymousreply 554February 21, 2019 7:29 PM

The painting they had made for her - Meghan in a tiara - was just unreal. I guess her friends are trying to send a message on her behalf but that was just ridiculous. And certainly will not go over well. She will probably put it up in the new farmhouse.

by Anonymousreply 555February 21, 2019 7:39 PM

The painting was commissioned by Nutmeg's former sorority at Northwestern, KKG, to cover their member magazine after her wedding. Bey & Jay used it in their video (no artist permission, natch).

by Anonymousreply 556February 21, 2019 7:42 PM

Eugenie posted this cute portrait of herself and sister Beatrice.

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by Anonymousreply 557February 21, 2019 7:56 PM

I guess “merching” works, because I actually went to the site of that luggage and started looking around.

by Anonymousreply 558February 21, 2019 7:57 PM

I like how a Spanish tiara was used in that cheesy sorority rendering of Sparkle's image. Much like Queen Maxima wore the magnificent Stuart Tiara in its full splendour, Queen Letizia at their State Banquet with Queen Elizabeth wore her big guns in the form of [italic]La Buena[/italic] (formally known as Queen Ena's Fleur-de-Lis Tiara).

To use an altogether different sovereign nation's tiara on a mere sixth in line to the British throne's wife lampoon's its subject to the point of sheer absurdity. Probably warmed the cockles of many a Spaniard's heart to see their royal symbols thrown in with the trash.

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by Anonymousreply 559February 21, 2019 8:00 PM

Haha R543 I imagined a similar scenario, to immediately ward off any chastising about the trip.

by Anonymousreply 560February 21, 2019 8:00 PM

Well I for one hope that the IRS are taking very detailed notes. And also UK's HMRC (Customs) to whom MEga owes a lot of money for her gifts. I belive you can bring in something like £300 worth of clobber before taxes.

by Anonymousreply 561February 21, 2019 8:39 PM

R379 Kate doesn't want to come.

Who do we think is planting all the stories that the BRF is pressuring Kate to throw a shower? Of course they are not, but Meghan wants people to believe Kate is supposed to do it for her. It's not Kate's fucking fault Meghan has no friends.

by Anonymousreply 562February 21, 2019 8:53 PM

The private plane belongs to the clooneys. It is at the very least registered to his production companies. The fail already covered it.

by Anonymousreply 563February 21, 2019 9:00 PM

[quote]OMG. Nutmeg looks like she's wearing a spandex onesie bodysuit underneath her coat.

Some doctors recommend women that far along in pregnancy wear compression hose during the flight. I suppose this is Meghan's compromise and she can merch for her friend at the same time.

by Anonymousreply 564February 21, 2019 9:12 PM

R554 what is this some fantasy of Doria you've cooked up? Doria could barely muster enthusiasm at the actual wedding. She barely looks interested in her own kid, let alone a grandkid. It's clear she has her own life in L.A., likes it just fine, and only does the bare minimum. She doesn't seem as if she wants to hang out with a bunch of botoxed, injected, frantically merching inane celebs with fake teeth and hair. AND not all women want to rush to their kid's house and diaper the grandbaby. She strikes me as a woman who is not going to take that on. She didn't even raise her own kid.

by Anonymousreply 565February 21, 2019 9:19 PM

R558, I did, too.

by Anonymousreply 566February 21, 2019 9:19 PM

R565, that’s how I see it, too.

by Anonymousreply 567February 21, 2019 9:20 PM

Anne had no chin whatsoever. But she had other beautiful features, such as skin, eyes, lips and hair. And a great figure.

by Anonymousreply 568February 21, 2019 9:20 PM

When I was a kid, there was a copy of either Look or Life magazine in the house. The cover story was “Princess Anne at 21.” Inside were all of these fabulous pictures of her wearing romantic long dresses outside with beautiful hats and amazing hairdos. I don’t think it was Cecil Beaton who took them. I remember being transfixed.

by Anonymousreply 569February 21, 2019 9:38 PM

Harry: Welcome home, sweetie! Wow, look at that loot! How'd we do?

Meghan: Fear not, my love, we did great! We don't have to pay for a thing for the nursery! We can reallocate your pathetic disposable income for stuff like fine kilims, Savoir beds . . . the works! Say, you think your closeted coz, Lynley, would sell some of his handmade furniture to us at a discount? OK, OK, so maybe he's bi . . . (then, to herself, Sure, in your dreams, Dimwit).

by Anonymousreply 570February 21, 2019 9:41 PM

[quote] Isn't Lainey a Canadian? Why the fuck is she sticking up for celebrity losers instead of Canada's Head of State and the Head of the Commonwealth (eg. The Queen)?

Generally, people in the Commonwealth of Nations do not consider the queen of the United Kingdom their head of state in a substantive way. There is no loyalty to the queen per se.

by Anonymousreply 571February 21, 2019 9:46 PM

Yeah this was the magazine. I can’t find any of the photos that were inside. She and Streisand had a similar look at the time. I remember one of the gowns was pale green with stripes. I think.

Funny...the things you remember...and the things you don’t...

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by Anonymousreply 572February 21, 2019 9:48 PM

Someone up thread mentioned Jackie Collins, this might not be too far off the mark, I suspect a tell all book or mini series will be on Meghan’s to do list. The Popbitch cocaine story today makes me think she’s already got plenty of material.

by Anonymousreply 573February 21, 2019 9:51 PM

Is MM a plant by republicans hoping to end the monarchy? Discuss.

by Anonymousreply 574February 21, 2019 9:52 PM

My favourite DM story is the one were they first debuted the mandarin tree. They weren't sure of the details of the party yet. They still thought it was on Tuesday so they kept taking photos of random people entering the hotel and saying they might be guests of the shower. WTF? 🤣

My second favourite DM story is the rando tax angle

[quote] Meghan must also pay 2.5% duty on the £300 crib, around £7.50. She would need to pay £2.70 duty on her £110 mandarin tree, £4.25 on her £170 Away suitcase and £5 on her £155 candy floss machine.

I would so love to hear those editorial meetings.

"Gotta add in the £2.70 on the decorative tree that may not even have been for Meghan's shower. What are the odds she's taking the tree back to the UK? Doesn't matter. We're adding it in!"

by Anonymousreply 575February 21, 2019 10:01 PM

R574 isn’t gay. No gay man would ever say anything that fucking stupid.

by Anonymousreply 576February 21, 2019 10:12 PM

R576 is new to these woods. R574 is the Discuss Troll.

by Anonymousreply 577February 21, 2019 10:15 PM

I'm gay and not the discuss troll. Discuss. (it was a joke btw)

by Anonymousreply 578February 21, 2019 10:20 PM

I agree with poster upthread about godparents. Expect Jessica, Serena, the Clooneys - and a strong possibility is Benita Litt woman, to whose daughters Meghan, I believe, is godmother. Maybe Harry will strong-arm one of his von Straubenzee friends in, in order to lower the Celeb Glitz quotient, and make it look like the kid really is part of the British upper-crust, and not just as a future resident of Beverly Hills. William will have to attend, so will Kate - the Queen might beg off after the NY shit show. Doria will be there, I expect.

Let's say early April birth - they usually do it three months later, that would be a June christening - nice tie-in with the Queen's officially celebrated birthday and Trooping the Colour in the first week of June.

Oh, God - Meghan at the Trooping with the bebe in her arms on the balcony!!!!!!!!!

Something to look forward to.

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by Anonymousreply 580February 21, 2019 10:28 PM

[quote]Isn't Lainey a Canadian? Why the fuck is she sticking up for celebrity losers instead of Canada's Head of State and the Head of the Commonwealth (eg. The Queen)?

Because the Queen will never have a use for this Lainey creature, where as Meg Antoinette might well at some point in future. Which somehow seems to be something this Lainey thing would value.

by Anonymousreply 581February 21, 2019 10:37 PM

R580 In the article he also makes the point that it really doesn’t matter who is paying...and I agree.

Matkle is capitalising on her position. There is no way that anyone would be spending that money on her if she were not married to Harry.

Also, I wonder...where is her pride? She must know that few of those people would want anything to do with her if she was still a supporting cast member on Suits.

She really is an empty vessel -all image with no substance whatsoever.

The only good thing about this is that people like Markle are never, ever happy. That’s why they keep pushing so hard, to try and feel fulfilled, but it never works. For all her smug smirks, I bet she’s consumed and obsessed with what people are saying about her.

by Anonymousreply 582February 21, 2019 10:38 PM

Luggage as a party favor. Discuss.

by Anonymousreply 583February 21, 2019 10:47 PM

Hmm. What are the odds the Queen will bag out of Sohobébé™'s christening? She wasn't at Louis's after all, and was not in ill health that I can recall. Would HM want a portrait of her sitting next to the Duchess clutching the newly anointed bargaining chip?

by Anonymousreply 584February 21, 2019 10:57 PM

Pompous Piers makes a good point though... just days ago godly George Clooney was chastising, oh, the world, about stalking Meg Antoinette and a few days later she's standing in the middle of 5th Avenue look at me! Look at me!

by Anonymousreply 585February 21, 2019 10:58 PM

[quote]Hmm. What are the odds the Queen will bag out of Sohobébé™'s christening?

I have diarrhea that day.

by Anonymousreply 586February 21, 2019 10:59 PM

I'm surprised Meg Antoinette has Mother Markus as her poodle. He's not particularly handsome and he always looks like a slob.

by Anonymousreply 587February 21, 2019 11:00 PM

I’ve said it before & I’ll say it again...if Philip decides to shed his mortal coil this year, the day Ginger Jesus arrives would be a good one to pick.

by Anonymousreply 588February 21, 2019 11:01 PM

Just read another daily Mail article about Meghan’s ex, Trevor Engleson. Apparently he’s marrying a multibillionaire’s daughter and yet the two of them have a wedding registry with all kinds of expensive place settings and gadgets on it. Christ, what is it with these already rich people wanting more and more things? Your dad is a multibillionaire and you don’t already have a nice set of dishes? A good toaster? Seriously.

by Anonymousreply 589February 21, 2019 11:08 PM

R476, Ok, deride my fan fic at r458. It's my first and last try at it. I amend my "billions" to "millions". QE II's State Funeral will be watched by millions. I stand by, however, the "my commonwealth". Yes, she has no legal power, but, as QEII, she is "The Sovereign" which encompasses the countries of the commonwealth. For her to say "my commonwealth" in that context isn't incorrect, albeit, she's the only human being on Earth who can say those words.

Lol, r489

And what r536 said.

*sigh* where to begin? I read a report (didn't see a video) that this morning Gayle King (who I can't stand) is usually eager to name drop, but was, when asked by her co-hosts on CBS Morning Show about the shower, discreet.

Why? I'll tell you why. Her and Oprah have seen and heard about the reaction to that vulgar shower and now view it as a mistake, but they'd stick needles in their eyes before they'd say that publicly, at least, not yet.

Time for an intervention. In my daydream, QEII calls up her good buddy Michelle Obama. MO discreetly flies to London, joins with the Queen and they both convey some reality to the DoS.

As for the DoS, at a divorce, conveying or inferring she's out because of BRF bigotry, no can do, honey. Wisely, and perhaps with some anticipation of that possibility in the event of a divorce, QE II trumped that card by allowing the marriage to happen in the first place.

Well, after the Morocco thingy, it should be all quiet until the baby is born and then....I'll still tune in to see if she can turn this around.

by Anonymousreply 590February 21, 2019 11:08 PM

[quote] I’ve said it before & I’ll say it again...

That might as well be the tagline of every British Royal Family thread.

by Anonymousreply 591February 21, 2019 11:11 PM

Why read them then, R591?

by Anonymousreply 592February 21, 2019 11:17 PM

I agree about the hands off right now with MM while she's pregnant. But after, the BRF had no problem throwing Fergie and Diana under the bus when they were done with them and they had 2 kids each.

by Anonymousreply 593February 21, 2019 11:25 PM

You're right about Lainey, she's isn't misunderstanding what the point of the monarchy she is just deliberately misleading the readers she has left because since the start she's been on Meghan's side because she has a direct connection to her. Lainey is one of those people who was popular like 8 years ago because she used to post real gossip but over the years she's just become another pr shill and hardly ever posts anything negative or interesting about the people she has connections to.

by Anonymousreply 594February 21, 2019 11:43 PM

Harry already does look foolish. The key to the entire thing is Harry. Arrogant, delusional, breathtaking hubris though she may have, it hadn't gotten her terribly far, men-wise (just local dudes who did nicely for themselves), but she landed Harry BECAUSE Harry was reduced to fishing among the D list. This is Harry's story and boy do I want to know what they've shoved under the rug. It has to go a lot deeper than the shit we saw in Vegas. CDAN used a blind to suggest he had a coke problem (no duh). That he had a ritual where he'd unfold a bill note belonging to a friend, say, "Hi Granny" to the name on the money, then hoover it up. This "Hi Granny" habit was described as "once amusing, now grating." - a sentence fragment which IMO describes HARRY down to the ground. I think he's a year and a half behind everybody else recognizing what he's done. Prince Carl Phillip of Sweden also alarmed his family when he got with Sofia Helquist, but as it turned out. Sofia royal'ed herself up with a quickness. Her dress, comportant, hair, make-up, demeanor is indistinguishable from her sisters-in-law Crown Princess Victoria and Princess Madeleine. In fact when all three are in attendance they're frequently coordinated with one another. So Carl Phillip knew what he was about. Harry got someone he thought would impress but who was actually so basic as to be terrifying.

by Anonymousreply 595February 21, 2019 11:59 PM

Ooooh, great post, r595.

by Anonymousreply 596February 22, 2019 12:11 AM

Meghan has actually boxed herself into a corner with no way out, so I think as much as people expect her to bolt, she won't. She has no royal mystique. Because of how she dresses and how she carries on (greased on make-up, belly mauling and posing, constant leaks and self-aggrandizing items in the media) she has no royal currency. She obviously thinks marrying Harry was all that was necessary to acquire it, but she was wrong. No matter how hard she tries to brand herself as "Duchess Meghan", this is not a brand that she can trade on or "seriously" monetize as an exit strategy. Yes, she has rich trashy friends who will underwrite a weekend like her shower, or more likely get sponsored and comped and freebies and tons of shit they pretend they paid for, but they're using her for their own publicity and Meghan can't actually get her hands on all the money the Clooneys and Serena have, nor is "Duchess Meghan" a brand that can earn it for her. I guess by associating herself with these presumed fabulously wealthy celebs she wants to be paid the same, but she's not a movie star and she's not a tennis champion with a gazillion titles and sponsorship deals. The money is actually not smoke and mirrors and branding. Serena got hers via elite tennis talent and Amal Clooney got it by marrying an American movie star who takes out millions from every movie he acts in and produces, and has for years. The merching stuff is just vanity bullshit for Serena and Amal, but Meghan apparently thinks she can get rich that way, or somehow, somehow, make being "Duchess Meghan" an earning attribute on par with movies or tennis. It isn't.

She can't leave til she has the money. Despite displays like this one, she doesn't have the money. She seems to think investing in PR will produce a return, but it's really going down the drain. I just think she's going to be in this endless cycle of merched clothing, bad hair, blind items self-aggrandizing bullshit she plants in the press, but she has nothing to leverage. Not the sort of thing she's after. If she wants to get out of the BRF and get a few influencer gigs for a short period of time, she can do that. What's gonna happen is two years in she'll realize she still doesn't have her thirty or fifty million pay day from her fame and celebrity adjacent nonsense, and she'll try to hold up the BRF for the money, because that will be her final option. They'll say, "No. Stay married to Harry forever for all we care. And hey - how about doing a little work and heading off to Gurnsey next week - or if not, Algeria?

She'll go crazy cause she can't get out and they won't pay her to get out.

by Anonymousreply 597February 22, 2019 12:12 AM

Meghan has eased her fate...there is a speeding Mercedes with a drunk chauffeur in her future. The seatbelts will be removed just in case.

by Anonymousreply 598February 22, 2019 12:21 AM

Who'd have thought Albert of Monaco would marry an exponentially higher class of bride than the son of a future King of Great Britain and Ireland?

by Anonymousreply 599February 22, 2019 12:22 AM

I'd have had much more mad respect for Harry had he been able to land someone like Serena who built herself through athletic talent. Megs can't even act for shit. The apex of her craft was opening a damn briefcase.

by Anonymousreply 600February 22, 2019 12:28 AM

Meghan didn't do her research. I think she thought, "Diana got 20-28 million - I'll get 37 million!" But it's her father-in-law who has the money and he's not going to turn his entire bank account over to Harry's ex-wife. I think her only option is to enter into a co-grifting type of arrangement with Harry the same way Sarah Ferguson has with Andy, but I don't think cozy, low key, no-entourage, no-pap minor hustling is what she got into this to do for the rest of her life. But she ain't getting Diana money, and I think that's what she pinned everything upon. Other than Diana, NONE of the exes walked away with money from the BRF. Mark Philips settlement was tiny, however he's an expert equestrian and seems to have some family dough. Good luck getting trustees to dish out Harry's actual money. I think it's impossible per terms of the trust, but even if it were possible - take Harry's REAL money (not a portion of his trust income), the stuff that funds his income? Not going to happen. I can hear Harry scream from here.

Harry was such a dumb ass. Serious prior girlfriends all had family money, and plenty of it, more than Harry has got. Did he not do the math that he was dating a D-lister on her first contract role, low down on the call sheet, basic cable, no nest egg, no assets, no property, and aging out of her category? No safety net, no family? That THAT might have been a reason she, unlike the others, was keen to marry him? Not a bright one, Harry.

by Anonymousreply 601February 22, 2019 12:30 AM

Another great post at r597.

"She can't leave til she has the money." Yup. And as I pointed out in another post, if they divorce, the DoS isn't getting the scram dollars (several, SEVERAL millions of dollars, if not a billion) that Wendi Deng, the ex Mrs. Rupert Murdoch, received. That makes all the difference. Deng runs with a billionaire crowd even though she's a socially dreaded single "extra woman" BECAUSE all her dough-ray-mee spares her being excluded.

Certainly, upon a divorce the ex DoS won't have that kind of money. And tick-tock : her 40s are right around the corner.

I also thought your comment about her famous friends using her for their own publicity is right on.

by Anonymousreply 602February 22, 2019 12:33 AM

The concept of Meghan Markle is brilliant - complete immunity from criticism by Britain’s Left. Being biracial, she gets a 100% free pass, no matter what she does or how much she spends. Sick world we live in, Diversity trumps everything. Nevertheless the taxpayers had little to do with the baby shower, it was just a bit vulgar.

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