UK: Labour loses 7 MPs

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Kiss Netanyahu's ass or we leave Labour.

Big changes coming to British political life as the British people have seen how elected representatives have ignored the will of the people and have tried to ruin Brexit. They have seen how MPs despise the people and follow their own agendas and not what they were elected to do. Lots of local elections coming up in March so the panic is starting to spread in Westminster.

BBC had some couple on who were shrieking about the antisemitism they experienced, they couldn't actually mention concrete examples and it turns out they're with some far-right Zionist group. You'd think the BBC would mention that, but no.

It's a concerted effort to turn Labour into yet another Likud mouthpiece and that's why they're leaving. The Tories are rife with bigotry and racism and yet the BBC is obsessed with Labour.

It's the same thing as you see here where the Republicans get away with the most repulsive behavior, but the Democrats get the most shit for anything and everything.

[quote]British people have seen how elected representatives have ignored the will of the people and have tried to ruin Brexit.

Excuse me, hon, but politicians had nothing to do with what Brexit actually meant once it actually happened. The right-wing fear-mongering is why Brexit went through. If anything, the mistake made was having the referendum in the first place because Cameron gave too much credit to complete idiots.

People who didn't understand what it even was, voted to LEAVE and now, the realization of what Brexit means is starting to set in. They're now doing this:

All pretty much nonentities, so no great loss.

The "Independent Group" has barely been born and it's ALREADY embroiled in a racist scandal.

A couple of big names there but the rest I hadn't heard of. It's no surprise Luciana Berger left; she was treated like shit by her own party who didn't take her anti-Semitic abuse very seriously.

The UK labor Government allowed many Muslim migrants to enter Britain when they were in power. Muslims have large families whilst Jewish families are small. Labour focused on this and encouraged them to join the party. Many Muslims joined the Labour party and they now have a very large voice. Whilst the Jewish lobby has got smaller and smaller. Also, Labour supports Palestine and has a Pro Muslim agenda.

You see what R9 is allowed to type and then scream "antisemitism" in the same breath? That's how it works with Zionists. You're allowed to be as anti-Muslim as you like and they get to pretend that criticism of Israel is the same as the virulent bigotry coming from Zionists. Just replace Muslim with "Jew" in what R8 said and show me a Labour member allowed to get away with that language.

mistake made was having the referendum in the first place because Cameron gave too much credit to complete idiots.

The above comment is why ordinary British people want a complete change in our supposedly democratic system as the elite openly say we are too stupid to vote!

r9 is an excellent example of the bigoted scum pretending to care about racism in order to attack Corbyn and Labour; they're all Islamophobes and anti-Arabs using the rhetoric and pantomime of anti-antisemitism as a disguise for their hatred against the Brown nations of the Islamic world.

These people love Israel, not because it's a Jewish country, but because of what it makes Palestinians go through.

Confused American here. So labour thinks Jews hate Muslims. So in response, Labour hates Jews?

Labour doesn't hate Jews and polls have shown that Labour members are less antisemitic than the Tories (the preferred party of British Jews), to say nothing of UKIP.

British Jews are by and large right-wing voters and this situation has preceded Corbyn's election. They thus have a biased perception of Labour, especially Labour as it is now, under the leadership of an anti-war, pro-Palestinian activist.

As anyone who pays any attention knows, Muslim countries almost without exception have horrible human rights records. I've never understood though, why that should make it OK to support Zionism. Europe was responsible for the Holocaust, and Europe should have made amends, without allowing hundreds of thousands of people whose ancestors had lived there since Bible times to be cleared out to make room for a state founded by Zionists, a large proportion of whom were secular or outright atheist, and didn't actually believe in the Bible in the first place. Antisemitism is wrong, but it's not the same as anti-Zionism, and Israelis do themselves no favours by pretending otherwise.

In case it's not clear, the reason I mention that many of the founders of modern Israel were secular or atheist, is not because I think there's anything wrong with that at all, but only to point out their hypocrisy in using the Bible - which they did not believe in - to justify their claim to the "Promised Land."

As long as Corbyn's the leader, Labour'll not get into power. And don't give me that shite about how they very-nearly won in 2017 - the fact that the Tories were at their weakest, led by a fucking sentient mop and even then she's being stabbed repeatedly in the back - Corbyn still couldn't get into Downing Street. I'm of the firm opinion that he's nothing more than a stooge to help make Theresa May look palatable. The man's a political dinosaur. Kill him now.

And as for the anti-Jew crap that's been flying? Yeah, Corbyn's not exactly cracked the whip there to bring that under control, thus further damaging the Labour Party's image. I used to vote Labour. My part of the UK - Scotland - was once considered a whole swathe of Labour safe-seats. Not any more. Not until that scrotum-faced bastard is *gone*.

[quote]Confused American here. So labour thinks Jews hate Muslims. So in response, Labour hates Jews

That's what you took from this? Seriously? You're not confused. You choose to be ignorant of the situation. They want to conflate criticism of Israel with antisemitism. They want to pretend that Labour is screaming "throw Jews in ovens." They'll point to *a* tweet from someone who claims to support Labour and say "You see???" Meanwhile, the Tories do in fact harbor views that are bigoted and racist, but that doesn't concern them. They have a Muslim member who has been attacked specifically for being Muslim. Some woman in the House of Lords. Tory MPs have participated on bigoted FB pages. These people screaming about Labour being antisemitic want fealty to the far-right govt of Israel. Period. The woman mentioned above was the friggin Director of "Labor Friends of Israel" - which sounds like sunshine and rainbows, but is essentially a Netanyahu mouthpiece.

The fact is that the media has endlessly covered this as if it weren't a manufactured crisis just like they did with the Iraq war. At some point, maybe comprehend that the media is in the business of selling bullshit.

Exactly, R15. They want to pretend it's about some bullshit defense of "extremist Islamics." I mean really, just pipe down when you're that simplistic and spare me your hyperbolic horseshit. When you see who the loudest voices are on this one, you know what their agenda has always been.

The Gang of 7 should call for a by-election. Wouldn't that be the proper thing to do since they were elected as Labour MPs? But, I'm sure they won't do that.

Left wing atheist socialist radicals must be defeated. Handing Britain over to foreign races and religions is insane. Bring back David Cameron and restore sanity!!!

R12 I am not anti-Muslim and I don't hate brown people! You are a typical Muslim who can not debate or take any criticism of your people who have flooded the West and yet refuse to integrate with other races in the West.

Are all the Jew hate posts from the same guy?

Antizionism IS antisemitism IS racism IS a capital crime. Gentiles don’t get a say in what is and isn’t antisemitism.

We have an incompetent government and an ineffective opposition.

We have hapless Theresa May versus bungling Jeremy Corbyn.

We have a country completely divided down the middle, between those who see no issue with us crashing out of the EU without a deal, and those who are terrified by the prospect.

Parliament and nation is gridlocked.

The only thing happening is the tick tick tick of the clock, ticking away like a bomb about to go off.

[quote]Are all the Jew hate posts from the same guy?

There it is, ladies and gentlemen. The usual asshole who will overlook the attacks on other groups and pretend Jews are being attacked in this thread.

Show me where someone wrote: "You are a typical Jew who can not debate or take any criticism of your people who have flooded the West and yet refuse to integrate with other races in the West." and I'll show you someone like you who did write that...just not with "Jew."

You're an arrogant, hypocritical selfish low-life who lacks empathy for others and you can't even see it. You engage in stereotypes of other people and you no doubt pull that shit where you say "Islam is not a race" yet your attacks resemble what a racist would say because you think some Pakistani extremist living in Bradford is the same as Lebanese doctor living in Newark

You're a racist and a bigot who is so far up your own ass that you project that hate onto people who haven't said a fucking thing that is anti-Jewish. Put me on ignore and point to me attacking someone for their Judaism. You want your cake and eat it, too. You want to be a hateful racist and bigot in the same breath as being those things.

Correction: You want to accuse another of being a hateful racist and bigot in the same breath as being one

How many times has R25 posted in this thread?

He has some serious anger issues

R27, you can deflect as much as you like and ignore the actual hyperbole and hysterics coming from your side, but nothing I said is remotely racist or bigoted. You can't actually debate what I stated, it's fine.

Islam is a scourge. The Arab conquests were a global catastrophe. Israel is the Jewish homeland. Muslims should live in Muslim countries. They've already devoured many great civilizations. We should not help them devour ours.

#teampersia #teambyzantium

Eight times by my count r27. And yeah, he doesn’t seem well in the head.

People calling for a by-election don't realise MPs are voted for by name, not by political party. An MP can switch from one party to another if they wish, though it's pretty rare to do so while in active office.

I am so fucking disillusioned with politics right now. I'm starting to understand why people don't vote.

Like it or not the vote was to leave. Any denial of that is an outright attack on democracy. You can’t keep demanding reruns until you get what you want. The political elite seem to think they’re above such things as actually doing what the majority voted for.

For those accusing R25 of having anger issues or being deranged, if you're a UK citizen and you have even a superficial understanding of economics, business, history, or international relations (and assuming you're not one of the millionaires who's going to profit handsomely from Brexit), you can only be outraged at the state of the country just now, as well as the mind-blowing incompetence and shallowness of most Westminster politicians, especially those from the two main parties.

R31: Except people say in election survey after election survey, PARTY is the number one reason they vote for a candidate. So it is proper to ask if these 7 are now independents, would the voters vote for them again or wold they vote for new Labour candidates?

R33: Bitch, please. Early the night of the referendum, when it looked like Leave failed, Farage had given a press conference that said outright he was going to try again. The Leavers were going to keep fucking the country over this stupid issue until they got what they wanted. ANYONE whining about democracy here can frankly shut the fuck up.

It's fascinating Israels become an issue in British politics. Because outside those weirdo student activists, Muslims with some sort of pan nationalist identity and Zionists (roughly 8% of the entire population all together) no no one else could five a flying fuck. Clearly Massive vote winner Labour is choosing to tear itself to pieces over.

R33 is wrong of course.

No one parliament can tie the hands of future parliaments.

In the same way, people can vote as many times as they like about a subject, Brexit, the death penalty, abortion. People have a right to change their minds. That's democracy.

Don't think R33 is actually British. If they did, they'd know how Parliament works.

Just to clarify for people outside of the UK. The British people voted for Brexit in the largest turnout ever recorded. Our elected politicians then decided we were stupid and didn't know what we voted for and have launched a tirade of abuse on us daily and are now demanding a second vote as WE didn't know what we voted for!!! We did know what we voted for and that was to leave the EEC. What we are now demanding is respect for democracy and a dignified exit.

R39 Oh great here's the Brexit troll again.

If the Anglosphere doesn't defend itself, it's game over for civilization.

R40 And here is the Democracy denier again....

Here's the thing, R39 - in ten years time the generation that voted for Brexit will be mostly - thankfully - dead. The generation that's being fucked over by it will be voting. What makes you think that if there was a second referendum, that rejoining the EU *wouldn't* be voted for massively?

Yeah. Fuck off now, you rancid anal fluff.

R20 - fucking Saint David Cameron was the asshole who got us in this mess in the first place. Yeah, bring him back.

R43 I'm not sure they'd want us back.

R43 Honey put the dildo back in your ass and go back to sleep!

r43 Bold of you to assume the EU want us back anytime soon.

Your daddy said I could have it until lunchtime tomorrow, R46.

Praise God!!

R39, good riddance! Just leave already.

R39: Listen up, you didn't know what you were voting for. You were lied to. About spending, about immigration, EVERYTHING! Leaving is awful, leaving with no deal in place concerning customs, borders, trade and the marketplace is SUICIDE! No one voted for that. Except apparent retards like yourself. Now sit down, shut up and stop wasting this thread's time.

R51 No, YOU are being lied to!

What R43 said. The young voted overwhelmingly against Brexit.

R43 What is it about the word DEMOCRACY you don't understand?

R52: NO, YOU! YOU! YOU! That's all ya got, isn't it, you pretentious twat? We accept your surrender gracefully and will require no reparations at this time. In future, you might want to educate yourself on the issues you are talking about as well learn the finer points of debate. Good day.

I'd love to see R39's face when the Irish terrorists start blowing up shit again.

What's that? You didn't know about this?

This is what this impasse is all about. Northern Ireland overwhelmingly voted to Remain. The DUP - the racist troglodytes who run that shitty province - want to Leave. But the one thing both sides of the argument in Northern Ireland can agree on: there cannot be a hard border separating Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland again. What, did you think the past twenty years or so of peace happened purely because of the Good Friday Agreement? Bitch, please. But because of Theresa Fuckmuppet May and Jeremy "Paedo-Grandpa" Corbyn, this is all being fucked up in the air because neither - NEITHER - can bring themselves to admit that there are grave concerns regarding the actual validity of the Referendum. We *cannot* risk a return to the days of the Troubles just to appease a few cunts in England and a few tax-dodging millionaires. We *cannot*.

R54 - the beauty of democracy is that the public are allowed to change their minds. That's how we get new governments, sugar-tits. And, given that we *didn't* know what we would be voting for back in 2016 (the misinformation and actual lack of real information was startling), it would be prudent *and* fully democratic to hold a second referendum.

What are you so scared of?

I had R39 blocked but can see his reply via other posters. It seems he's the one who was repeating the same mistaken point in other Brexit threads.

He might be technically correct that the actual number of people who took part in the Brexit referendum was higher than in any previous vote - I haven't bothered checking, so I don't know. The simple fact is though, that the UK population today is over 63 million, whereas in 1971, for example, it was 56 million. More people voted in the Brexit Referendum SIMPLY BECAUSE THERE WERE MORE PEOPLE WHO COULD VOTE.

Where he's certainly wrong (and possibly being deliberately deceitful) is in his implication that this means UK citizens were more engaged in the Brexit Referendum than in any previous vote. Here's the relevant section of my reply to him from another thread:

"Some statistics:

Brexit referendum turnout - 72.21%

UK General election turnouts in the following years -

1992 - 77.7%

1987 - 75.3%

1983 - 72.7%

1979 - 76%

I could go on. Every UK General Election before 1979 back to the end of the Second War (I haven't checked any further) had turnouts higher than the Brexit Referendum, apart from the 1970 election at 72%.

But then, facts have never had very much to do with the whole Brexit process, have they?"

R55 I don't know what sort of education you had but I can tell by your rantings it wasn't a very good one! Do you know the meaning of debate?

I wonder how many more Labour and Torries are pondering leaving to create a untied cooperative centrist party.

R58 What is it about the British democratic system that upsets you?

R59: Sigh. The hard way it is, then. Remember, twat, you brought this on yourself. Learn your lesson or you'll get the belt next time.

It gets funnier with R39 and our other wee Brexitrolls, R58 when you realise that the turnout wasn't as high as they claim, not when you look at the number of eligible voters in 2016 as opposed to how many voters actually voted for Brexit. I don't have the stats right now...but its less than 40%.

That's not a decisive win. That's a lot of idiots believing lies printed on the side of a fucking bus, too dumb or retarded to look up these "Facts" for themselves...

And let's not forget that a good number of Brexit voters were elderly. And they're thankfully dead now. Huzzah!

r2 is a great example for the kind of toxic bigoted cunt that has ruined the Labour Party and made this move necessary.

Retards and Twats and soon too be dead is what we are called every day even by our dear elected politicians. And Britain was once the home of parliamentary democracy and respect for others and decency. God Help Us!

Labour supporters are 10000% antisemetic. I can’t believe what comes out of their mouths. It’s Protocols of the Elders of Zion shit. They hide behind, “I’m just anti-Israel” or “I’m anti-Zionism.” Let’s not forget that Corbyn praised Hamas. It’s fucking frightening.

I would vote for David Lammy to be prime minister.

R67 Don't be ridiculous. Don't tar every Labour supporter with the same brush. It IS possible to not support Zionism or the actions of Israel and also not be anti-Semitic. Not approving of some of the things Israel has done is not the same as being anti-Jewish and that is the ridiculous argument that's causing so much trouble.

I would move to London but I don't speak Arabic.

You're fluent in stupid cunt tho' R70

I'll have some of whatever R67's been snorting.

London is now a shithole

R73 You failed there didn't you hun?

London is murder capital with black on black killings daily, although we are not allowed to say this as its politically incorrect to do so.

Aren't you embarrassed to keep attacking that ridiculous tired old strawman, r69? We're not talking about "not approving of some of the things Israel has done", for fuck's sake, we're talking about supporting antisemitic death cults like Hamas and Hezbollah.

R76 You actually believe all Labour supporters are '10000% anti-Semitic'? Or, more like me, do you believe there are probably some who are and some who aren't. I don't even think the majority of Labour supporters outside of London have even ever met a Jew, let alone have enough knowledge of them to hate their existence.

R75 No wonder you get called Retard and Twat , still, you'll soon be dead

r75, bless you my child!

r77

I'm not the poster who made that statement, but it's irrelevant; the relevant thing is that they support a party that's led by an antisemite.

And the fact that you think you need to have met a Jew or know lots about Jews in order to be hatefully obsessed with them just shows your naivety.

Fight for Britain! We need a Churchill to rise up and take our country back!

Churchill was a true saint!

The right wing complains about the control that "Jewish billionaires" have over the world.

The left wing complains about the control that "the Zionist lobby" has over the world.

Once you get past that initial distinction, their antisemitic rhetoric is identical.

And each pretends to be shocked! Just absolutely shocked! that people call them out on it.

Remember political belief isn't a straight line, it's a circle.

A racist saint.

I'm always curious as to what the Statute of Limitations is on these things.

I mean if the Israelis should turn Tel Aviv over to the Palestinians, shouldn't the Americans give Texas back to the Mexicans and New York to the Native Americans? Shouldn't the Australians give Sydney back to the Aborignes? New Zealand turn Aukland over the Maori?

What's the proper number of years before someone can claim ownership?

[quote]The right wing complains about the control that "Jewish billionaires" have over the world.

I've had Labour supporters hurl this at me.

[quote] You actually believe all Labour supporters are '10000% anti-Semitic'?

Oh, excuse me, they're just anti-Zionist. Happy now?

[quote] It IS possible to not support Zionism or the actions of Israel and also not be anti-Semitic.

Do you even know what Zionism is?

Tracey Ullman had Corbyn's number. She received so much backlash from his cult. They went after David Baddiel claiming he wrote the sketch - because he's a Jew. He doesn't even work on her show.

If you won’t let England leave the EU then the UK should just annex the whole bloody thing as payback for the Blitz.

We need another Churchill and a real-life Eglantine Price to remove the Nazis from England again.

I suspect many posting here couldn't give a shit about Jews but love the idea of Tories benefiting from Labour division.

Angela Smith is a racist there needs to be a full enquiry.

Theresa May is an incompetent hunchback, there needs to be a full enquiry.

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We wont leave.

The economy will crash over the next few weeks. Watch the Pound.

Angela Smiths and The Independent Party’s Racism controversy is not going away. There has to be a full enquiry immediately.

Brexitards won't care R96 they would gladly sit in smoking ruins eating rubble if it means freedom from the shackles of the Brussels liberal elite! Rule Britannia! Churchill/immigrants out/Thatcher/ better in the 70s/political correctness gone mad/DailyMail/ I'm not racist but.....

All the people on this thread who scream about your right to Brexit, why did Farage, Johnson and Gove run away when it passed? Why did no one have a realistic plan to implement Brexit? You all have shown a lot of incompetence.

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The Independent Party is institutionaly racist.

Stop citing the Daily Heil. Such a garbage rag.

R102....

The daily mail is an institutionaly racist publication.

Derek Hatton's been readmitted to the Labour Party. Labour will *not* be electable until they come to their senses. The reason Labour got into power back in 97 was that they dropped the militancy that Corbyn and his wee chums like, people like Corbyn were sidelined and Labour realised that their policies had to be palatable for everyone. It wasn't enough that the Tories were stinking of sleaze (they'd had that stench since the mid eighties).

Repeat: Labour, under Corbyn, is unelectable. Adding in the multi-millionaire former deputy leader of Liverpool council - who himself was investigated for corruption in the 90s - makes it doubly-so.

Corbyn and Labour are the symptoms of ancient Brit anti-Jewish bigotry and hatred. Getting rid of Corbyn is not enough to "cure" Labour of its Jew hatred. Getting rid of every Labour member who voted for Corbyn as Leader TWICE is a good start to rehabilitating a Party that is no different to UKIP or the BNP.

What are the examples of Labour's anti-Jewish bigotry ? It is now thrown around as a given but without any details, is it all about Corbyn? Miliband the previous leader was Jewish right?

R107

R107 Corbyn once said something pro-Palestine or attended a pro-Palestine rally and that has been extrapolated to every single member of the Labour party secretly wishing for a new Holocaust, British society being a hotbed of pogroms and synagogue desecrations and Jews being afraid to leave their houses.

*biggest eyeroll of all time*

I asked a question R108 hardly ostrich-like behavior, would you care to enlighten me as to what you think I'm avoiding, some details would be appreciated.

You gotta love Labour faithful like R107 R109 R110. Every major Brit newspaper containing headlines of Labour's entrenched Jew hatred, parliamentary/police enquiries into hate speech by Labour members, Labour members suspended for Jew hatred, Labour members begging Corbyn to tone it down and cut it out. Yet all R107 R109 R110 can do is deflect and pretend to be stupid to avoid having to look themselves in the mirror and admit they are bigoted scum. Just like Corbyn. Just like Farage. Just like Walker.

Every major British newspaper is right wing funded R111 and has a vested interest in smearing the opposition, I am asking for examples of this bigotry to you are so angry about, try not to stoop to cheap name calling.

Even The Guardian and The Independent, R112? They're both very left-wing media outlets and both have criticised Labour's poor responses to the anti-Semitism dramas.

And the details of these dramas are? R113

R112 R114 = Jeremy Corbyn

Here you go, R114. Auntie Beeb has helpfully summarised.

Summarised? Or rationalized? Always tough to know with the Beeb.

R116 None of that means Labour as a whole is anti-semitic, Corbyn is a liability unfortunately for many reasons, his political baggage makes him too easy a target for smears, he's the Daily Mail Trotsky poster boy, . No British political party is inspiring confidence presently , but it is obvious this issue has been weaponized for political gain. Seeing as the Jewish Mililband brothers were fighting each other for the leadership prior to Corbyn with Ed getting the job this entrenched anti-semitism must have had a break for their benefit.

R118 You might as well be speaking to a child. Anyone who actually believes the entirety of the Labour party hates Jews is by definition intellectually subnormal. I'd be willing to bet there's actually more anti-semitism in the Tories, but that wouldn't fit the right wing narrative.

[quote] Anyone who actually believes the entirety of the Labour party hates Jews is by definition intellectually subnormal.

You're right. It's not the entirety of the Labour Party. It's every single Labour Party member who is silent or worse - dismissive - in the face of years of on-going anti-Jewish bigotry and hatred spewed by Corbyn, Labour Party members and those who - like yourself - defend them. Which is 99% of Labour.

Carry on with your Labour is just fine wankfest.

You sound hysterical R120 if this was a movie you would have been slapped and shaken to bring you round .

R121 Spoken like the bigoted scum we both know you are. But then, that's part and parcel of being a Brit, innit.

You sound like a real charmer R122 Are you not a Brit yourself?

I'm always impressed by non-Brits who are able to know more about British politics and society by watching YouTube videos and reading the Daily Mail website than those of us who've lived here for 40 years.

R122 Could well be the demented Matt R124, they certainly share the same vocabulary and right wing obsessions.

Brexit has been the most wonderful thing to ever happen in the UK as is has shown the British people in absolute clarity that they are despised and ignored by Westminster politicians and that British democracy is an illusion. Big changes are coming to UK politics and its long overdue.

R125 is a homophobe and an antisemite who should be waterboarded in Guantanamo.

Zionism is not racism. It is an anti-racist movement. After everything the goyim have done to the Jews, the Jews have earned the inalienable right of national sovereignty. Jews are the indigenous peoples of Israel. That is not an opinion, that is a documented fact. There were Jews on that land before that convicted felon Jesus or that racist pedophile Muhammad were even born. Anti-zionism is antisemitism, antisemitism is racism, and racism is a capital crime.

R124 has done nothing to stop England from being infested with these homophobic antisemitic camel fucking scumbags.

If you won't believe the Daily Mail, then how about the Grauniad?

It's okay to hate those who hate Jews and gay people.

R127 Mary Poppins says Hi you crazed loon.

Not being Jewish is racism against God.

Not being gay is a perversion of the gay and lesbian norm.

God hates you R131 you are an embarrassment to Judaism and Angela Lansbury

Shut up R133 you Nazi-loving quisling toady of Islamofascism.

The biggest embarrassment to Angela Lansbury is co-starring with professional Disney hater M in an unnecessary sequel to a terrible movie she rightly turned down based on a book that never should have been written by a narcissistic self-hating Australian who never should have been born.

Muslims are the new Nazis and you want to welcome them with open arms. Are you that antisemitic and homophobic that you want to see our genocide that badly? If you tolerate Islam in any context, then the answer is yes.

The US's legacy of slavery is England's fault, by the way.

R135 and the nutcase is revealed, Matt you are so transparent , so easy to spot even with your cookie clearing you scream lunatic. Aren't you right wingers thrilled to have such a sensible voice in your corner? I can't wait for the Islamic version of Mary Poppins!

R138 just can't stop being homophobic, antisemitic, and ableist. Are you still disappointed that Nazi bitch Mrs. Simpson didn't get to be queen? I can't wait for the actual real life re-enactments of [italic]Bedknobs and Broomsticks[/italic] where we finally kick you Nazi scum out once and for fucking all. Treguna mekoides tracorum satis dee!

R140 Good grief , is there no medication to help you Matt?

R141 do you ever get tired of projecting your stupidity and bigotry onto your moral and genetic superiors?

I'm not the one who needs help. You hate Jews and gays so much you want to see white Christian heterosexual supremacist propaganda remade with Muslims in it. You might as fucking well since that movie is so homophobic even its name means "beat up gay men." If the left was really serious about social justice it would have gone after that movie and that movie alone and left [italic]Song of the South[/italic] alone. If I had kids, I'd rather they get life lessons from a kindly old black man than a nasty old white woman.

Mary Poppins Forever Matt!!!!!

When the Left says "T*RF"

They really mean "D y k e"

Just like when they say "Zionist"

They really mean "k i k e."

Shut up R144. You are a disgrace to the English people and an enabler of anti-gay and anti-Jewish violence.

R144: You're next you Nazi-loving mother fucker.

R144: You're next you Nazi-loving mother fucker.

[R144]: You're next you Nazi-loving mother fucker.

[R144]: You're next you Nazi-loving mother fucker.

[R144]: You're next you Nazi-loving mother fucker.

Kill R144

It's a step in the right direction.

It's a step in the right direction.

Kill R144

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It's a step in the right direction.

Kill R144

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It's a step in the right direction.

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Seven people resigning from the Labour party is going to protect the Jewish people from a Tory and UKIP sponsored uprising of rabid xenophobes how, exactly?

It's not xenophobia if they actually hate you and want you dead.

Another reason [italic]Bedknobs and Broomsticks[/italic] is the best movie ever is because it acknowledges the need to use force against the oppressor classes. The author of this article is a woman and apparently of Chinese extraction, so you're a racist and a sexist if you disagree.

Gay Jewish IDF soldiers who kill heterosexual gentile terrorists are doing God's work. The Jewish God's work. The God of Irwin Kostal, Richard M. Sherman, and Robert B. Sherman.

Brexiteers and right wingers please take note of the demented types you attract to your cause, see metal case Matt's endless drivel above

Every race that allied with Hitler has earned genocide.

Shut the motherfucking goddamn hell up, R160, before I call Scotland Yard to have you reported for hate speech against Jews and gay people.

Anyone who isn't right-wing at this point is the active enemy of both Jews and gay people.

I'm sure Scotland Yard has you on a list of undesirables Matt, phone away x

R164: The Left sold us out to a genocidal hate cult who hates us and want us dead, and your insults and hate speech and bullying in the defense of an indefensible movie that is anti-gay, anti-black, and anti-woman while pushing the vilest Christian propaganda this side of [italic]The 700 Club[/italic] make you culpable in that bigotry.

Long live Judaism, homosexuality, and [italic]Bedknobs and Broomsticks[/italic]

The genocide of the oppressor classes is imminent and there's nothing you can do about it. The more you attack me, the sooner your punishment will come.

Islam and Christianity blasphemy. Heterosexuality is perversion.

Keep ranting Matt, you're doing a wonderful job of representing the right wing view. Take a good look Brexiteers and Tories he is one of you!

You know, one of the biggest cocks I've ever had the pleasure of taking up my arse belonged to a guy called Samir. He rode me good, hard and proper. Couldn't walk right for two weeks.

R168 is proof leftism and Nazism are one and the fucking same.

And Matt proves right wing thinking rots the brain

Jeremy Corbyn is a racist Nazi Cracker worthy of the death penalty.

So, in an attempt to pull this thread out from where it's gone, a question for our British DLers:

This story is getting minimal play in the US press. It's getting covered, but at the same level as "floods hit French villages"

How big a deal is this in the UK right now? Are people waiting for anti-Brexit Tory MPs to join them?

This thread is proof that Brits are as fucked up as anyone.

R171 is why The US is right to waterboard terrorists.

Right wing thinking IS thinking.

Left-wing thinking is an oxymoron, keyword being MORON.

The Labour Party also sold women out to the cult of Jenn-durr.

R174, I hope you realise that most of the replies in the last half of this thread are from Matt, our resident maniac (who's American). He's been missing in action for a while, but anything to do with Zionism is one of his triggers. If he follows his usual modus operandi, you can expect him to span the rest of this thread with multiple copies of the same reply, until he fills it up and gets it closed. He uses many different IP addresses to make himself difficult to block.

Matt, you can repeat nonsense a million times if you like, but that still doesn't make it true. Go and take your medication.

R173 it's a huge deal here. Nothing else has been talked about in Parliament, on the news or on the streets for months.

That might sound like I'm being sarcastic but I'm not. When the reality hits the market and sterling free falls, you'll all hear about it then. Brexit will fuck the British market completely, the European market significantly and will have knock-on effects around the world. Still, at least some aged racists got their blue passports back.

R178 is a racist. Zionist is the new k i k e just like T*RF is the new d y k e. And the Left is 100% to blame for this state of affairs.

Churchill was a Tory. Hitler was a socialist.

Voting for Labour is like voting for another Blitzkrieg.

R173 Brexit is the UK's Trump , same followers, older, racist, dim-witted. It is a catastrophe in the same way Trump has been for the U.S. Both main parties have failed to lead the country through this quagmire and as a result are facing resignations. For Labour has already happened, the Tories are teetering towards but being the establishment fans that right-wingers are play the 'paper over the cracks and present a untied front' game better. But the whole thing is a shambles based on the rose tinted dreams of dullards.

R182 is why they need to bring back beheadings at the Tower of London.

R*c*st is nothing but an anti-white racial slur used to justify attacking gay white men and lesbians.

Le Pen and populist allies set to win big at European Parliament elections as 'grand coalition' of centrist parties loses its majority, poll suggests

And if you were consistent in your honky hatred, then you would hate the camel fuckers most of all because Islam is white supremacy on steroids.

I'm Scots and agree completely with R179. We can't avoid thinking about it. One example - I feel I need to stockpile one drug I take every day because its made somewhere else in the EU, but it's for a fairly low-priority health condition and I don't believe I can rely on the government to make sure it's imported if Brexit goes badly.

Thankfully my job shouldn't be affected. There are hundreds of thousands of people in the UK though, and possibly millions, whose job security relies totally on uninterrupted access to the European Single Market and the Customs Union. If that goes, it'll affect all of us. It'll be way worse than the 2008 recession. An example of this - the UK agriculture minister, who is a supporter of Brexit, today warned the farming industry that they might not be able to export *any* food to the EU for six months after Brexit Day. That would mean many farms and agricultural business would go bankrupt and thousands upon thousands of jobs would be lost. And that's only one section of society.

Giving a shit about Western Civilization makes you right wing at this point.

If not wanting to see gays and Jews erased by Christo-Islamic het scum makes me right wing, then the right wing is now the only logical place for gays and Jews to be. We ARE Western Civilization. Without us, you would still be living in mud huts and shit and dying at 30.

Shut up R187 you gentile blasphemer and suck-up to the heterosexual oppressor class.

England shares a common language and culture with no one in Europe. It has no place in the EU.

Chuka Umunna is so damned hot! He almost ran for Labour leadership - in that thing Corbyn won as a fluke nominee. But then, sort of last minute, he backed out, and I wondered if the press had some sort of scandalous secret about him.

R190 Except the english speaking EU nations of Ireland, Malta, Gibraltar and Cyprus of course.

Our common culture is shared with the Irish of course. Turn on RTE and you'll see Eastenders. Turn on the BBC and you'll see Mrs Brown's Boys.

R20 yes. Pagan anarcho-libertarians RISE

Thank you R179, R182 and R187

Drilling down--is the defection of these 7 MPs seen as a major deal or just some grumbly Labour members, e.g., is there an expectation that this is going to lead to the formation of a third, centrist party?

Not being Jewish is a hate crime against God.

R194 It's too early to say really. There are rumours there are more people from both sides wanting to join the seven but actually setting up a separate party takes time and paperwork and time isn't really something we have a lot of if the aim is to do anything about Brexit.

They could of course have put the wheels in motion of setting up their own party before actually leaving but that would have spoiled the surprise.

At present it would appear it's just a way for them to distance themselves from Corbyn without the threat of using their jobs (ie calling bye-elections) but it could be interesting if more people decide to join/support them. They'd need a lot of people to join them were they to wield considerable power in the Commons but with so much disillusionment with Corbyn and May it's an exciting possibility.

There's a huge anti-Brexit protest planned next month which could be big enough to force May's government in asking for an extension to the deadline but that's a long way off. Every day feels like a week at the moment. Everyone's had enough of it.

Thank you R196-- always good to hear from the people on the ground, as they say.

And this time we will not stop until all non-Jewish religion and all non-gay sexuality is purged from the entire world. The oppressor classes deserve everything bad they get and Islam is the absolute worst of the worst. [italic]Bedknobs and Broomsticks[/italic] is the greatest movie ever, but it was two Jewish American songwriters, a black choreographer, and a gay man playing a preacher who helped make it so.

The UK has no future unless Brexit goes through. And if they still won't, then they can always annex Europe to make them pay for the Blitz.

The Allies should have kept the Nazi death camps open long enough to gas the Axis powers into extinction.

Oh, and by the way, Robert B. Sherman was one of the American soldiers at the liberation of Dachau.

It's eight now - Joan Ryan just quit for the new party. Breaking news, so more details to become available as it happens. But she's resigned due to the anti-Jewish racism.

In both western Europe and the U.S., anti-Semitic views are becoming respectable.

it might be the ambien saying this but maybe we should not just have 2nd refferendum on remaining, but also a refferendum on our electoral system, on learch to the right capalist sysyem where so many at the bottom have nothing and so so much wealth at the top and frane the argument for remain as a way to break this system because thats where the true anger lies. vote eu , get wealth tax , vote eu get a fairer democratic system that can handle future prices. vote eu prove ur an open country for those eho are willing to live by are rules and pay back to society. but this country to the test are we right or are we left??

and the eu could budge on limit on eu nationals david cameron got 7 year freeze on movement why not double that 15 and add to new treaties newer standad of economic polictical cultural standards must be bet before entrance a new state to the eu and that the provisional status of new nations again gets doubled to 14 years

we could also see move to state aid muchmore and create exeternal migration targets with mid mederttrain migrant detection faccilatied to work out true assylums and economic migrants.

like actual proccessing centres for migrants in med

R203 you're not fooling anyone. We don't call it Ambien the UK so you can stop your "we" bullshit. Go to bed.

I honestly think this new party will be just become a huge failure unfortunately.

[quote] In both western Europe and the U.S., anti-Semitic views are becoming respectable.

Antisemitism never went away in Europe, it just became briefly unfashionable after the War.

Matt rocks you aspie TARD

R206 I live in uk in hertfordshire and in fact when to the now defunct francis bacoon school and currently live in wgc and reason i call it ambien instead of zopi is cause this is an amrican board and is easier to communicate my dream like sequence at the moment. test me if you like but since its 5 to 1 should be getting of to

I’m tired of this ‘ the people voted to leave ‘ crap. Some did and there was indeed a majority in favour of leave. Not a massive one but a majority nonetheless. But that is still not ‘ the people ‘. There are plenty of us who realised it would be a shitshow from the off, precisely because we were aware how fucking useless our political class, of either persuasion, is.

Did you really think they could negotiate a deal ? Do you really think anything good can come from crashing out without a deal ? Anyone who thinks that will not seriously damage business and the economy really has to have their head hidden way up their arse at this stage. But, undoubtedly, when the tsunami of shit hits the Blighty fan they will blame it on the EU rather than take responsibility for their own demented hubris. The EU owe us nothing. We are not special. It is our responsibility. We are doing this to ourselves.

We have punched above our weight because we were uniquely positioned. After we leave we no longer will be and anyone who believes the archaic crap fed them by old Etonians safely swaddled in a lifetime of privilege or the disingenuous man of the people claptrap hypocritically peddled by the likes of Farage and Banks deserves the misery to come. Sadly, you will have dragged the rest of us down with you.

Thanks.

3 new torries have joined go Anna you rock!

The majority who voted to leave should be disenfranchised then r211? You have your valid concerns but that that doesn’t mean your vote is more important than theirs. There was a majority vote, that’s all that is required. In any democracy there will always be a losing side and that’s just something you will have to cope with.

Why not, R213. A lot of them are dead now.

I have R213 blocked but, as with an earlier contributor, I can see their comment via R214. R213, you're probably the same person I've already made this point to - you have no right to use the word "democracy" when two out of the four countries in the United Kingdom voted by large margins to stay in the EU. Whatever the UK is at the moment, it's not a democracy.

Why don't you just own up that all along, what you really wanted was a right-wing dictatorship run by elderly colonels and their blue-rinsed memsahibs?

The anti-Brexiteers are now officially anti-English racists.

It's so sad because we actually used to believe in Democracy and now anyone who voted for Brexit is a Nazi Racist unintelligent oaf who is too old to understand what is happening. I am none of the above and still voted for Brexit

I live in a former British colony and I hope that the Mother Country can live through this crisis.

But I have to say the adversarial Westminster System needs to be gently put away to pasture.

The adversarial Westminster System is equally disastrous in Washington.

Brexit has been the best thing to ever happen in the UK as it has shown the people in absolute clarity that Westminster does not believe in Democracy and that they despise the people and actually work against their wishes. There are big changes coming to the UK as the cat is out of the bag and party politics are in for big changes as the trust for politicians has gone for ever.

Brexit has been the best thing to ever happen in the UK as it has shown the people in absolute clarity that Westminster does not believe in Democracy and that they despise the people and actually work against their wishes. There are big changes coming to the UK as the cat is out of the bag and party politics are in for big changes as the trust for politicians has gone for ever.

Well, Anna Soubry basically went for it on the news by simply implying that Theresa May's attitude towards Brexit - and namely, the Single Market - is motivated by racism. Not so much surgical, rather a sledgehammer. And I fucking love her for it.

Before our resident Right Wing Wanker Troll chimes in: Theresa May has a *history* of being vile towards non-Brits. *She* was the architect of the Hostile Environment policy at the Home Office - the net result of which was the catastrophe that's still unfolding re: Windrush. *She* constantly and consistently votes for or creates policies that are designed to make immigrants lives harder and tougher - and this isn't just people from places like India or Pakistan or Nigeria: this also extends to people from countries like Poland, Germany, Ireland.

In short - Theresa May is the crystallisation of the viewpoint that Brexit wasn't motivated by "exercising control" or "taking back control" - it was racism, pure and simple. The marketing from the Leave campaign was notoriously race-tinged. The rhetoric spewed by the right-wing papers was highly fucking racist. And Theresa May and her government are the pinnacle of that argument. She won't be happy until this country is isolated and broke on the world stage. History will *not* remember her fondly and that exact same goes for that cunt Corbyn.

The Westminster System was designed 200 years ago for rich, altruistic men who didn't have the media breathing down their necks 24/7.

It needs to be modified.

That was pretty damning, R221.

R215 That's irrelevant, the referendum was held under the rules as they stood at the time, not rules retroactively changed because Nicola Sturgeon saw a glimmer of hope that she could try and push for independence again despite Scotland voting the year before to be a part of the system whose rules the referendum was held under.

And let's not mention that for all the guff about how there's a huge gulf between opinion in the nations of the UK, the reality is that there was only 16% between the results in England and Scotland, and 9% between England and Northern Ireland.

[quote]there was only 16% between the results in England and Scotland

Which is the difference between Labour in 1983 (wiped out) and Labour in 1997 (landslide). Do improve your maths.

[quote] you lost. Get over it.

Such Trumpster talk.

R226 I was highlighting that the myth that there is a major gulf between England and Scotland is demonstrably false, not pontificating on the vagaries of first past the post.

Don't be obtuse, R228. The result was more than a complete polar opposite. Scotland had a near 2/3 remain mandate. Stop pretending otherwise.

R229 And England had a wafer thin, barely-more-than-half.

The point I'm making is that Scottish nationalists have gained a lot of traction by claiming that a new independence referendum is necessary because the results highlight that there is a gulf between England and Scotland that is so great as to be insurmountable and therefore Scotland needs to be independent.

The reality is that the figures only show a variation of 16% between the two, which is well within the normal range of regional variation in a functioning, developed state.

[quote]You can’t keep demanding reruns until you get what you want [in a democracy]

Hey, idiot @r33, of course you can, and you actually do. It’s the very essence of democracy, and it’s why we have general elections in regular cycles of three, four, or in some cases every five years. The referendum, what’s more, was not binding, and it was/has been irresponsible of May and the dangerously ambiguous Corbyn to bring the entire country to its knees because she and the Brexiteers are pretending a 5248 split is the unequivocal “will of the people” and Corbyn keeps sitting on the fence waiting to profit from May’s collapse without committing clearly to leaving or staying. The only right choice is to either go for another referendum.

For those outside the UK, something our resident British nationalist fails to mention is that one of the promises made by the British side in the Scottish Independence Referendum, held in September 2014, was that voting to remain in the UK would safeguard Scotland's membership in the EU. This was heavily publicised in the months leading up to that Referendum, and persuaded many to vote against Independence (as opinion polls at the time showed). Yet less than two years later, Scotland was being dragged out of the EU, against its clearly expressed will, because a slim majority in England and Wales decided that was what they wanted.

The UK is NOT a democracy; it's a semi-dictatorship in which, whenever there is any important disagreement, the largest country in the Union always decides how the other countries will live. I am not anti-English. I just don't happen to believe that they're the best people to run Scotland, or that they have the best interests of Scotland at heart. The jaw-dropping incompetence of English politicians over the past couple of years proves that to anyone who is not blinded by British nationalism.

The Twitter link is from the pro-UK side in the Independence Referendum.

I'm a Scot and I found the No campaign's propaganda during the 2014 Referendum fucking hysterical. Yes, I'm a Yes supporter. Why? It's because it's been clear for the past sixty years or so that Westminster doesn't give one shit about anything north of Carlisle - especially during the Thatcher years. But the advertising the No campaign came up with was beyond parody. This one managed to be simultaneously patronising, sexist and fucking ignorant.

Jeremy Corbyn took remain voters for granted and assumed they had nowhere else to go. The prospect of an alternative party is putting a big spoke in the works.

Corbyn's now saying that Shamima Begum has a lot of questions to answer but also needs "support" from the UK. It would be one thing if he said that the decision to revoke her citizenship was murky from a purely legal perspective, but saying that she needs support is going to alienate a lot of people.

R217 We've only your word that you are not an old reactionary prick, and from the tone of your other gammon-y posts I'd say that word counts for nothing.