What do Masons and Shriners do at their meetings?

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I recently discovered that the men on my mother's side were Masons going back at least four generations. I had no inkling. They were businessmen, a surgeon, and a general in the British army.

Watch Lodge 49.

My dad was a Mason. He died when I was young, so I never talked to him about it, but in later years I was going through everything in the house, and found a few informational Masonic booklets. It was all pretty dry - I skimmed over the different levels. Serve your community, don't join if you don't want to do that, don't vouch for anyone who wants to join who might be a slacker. It's another organized way to help people and be around other guys who want to do that, too. No racial restrictions, and while there are no religious restrictions per se, I think you do have to believe in a higher power.

Here's a website for my local lodge

Occult activity. When the mark of the beast is implemented they will help each community get it to the people.

There is a pentagram light fixture on the ceiling.

They wear lambskin aprons.

[quote]What do Masons and Shriners do at their meetings?

Fail to keep any sentient being awake.

When Masons are in trouble, they cross their wrists above their heads and any Mason who sees this must help.

When Oscar Wilde was in prison, another prisoner saw him and made the sign, which so upset the helpless Oscar that he asked not to be exercised in view of the other prisoners.

I got aggressively recruited for the Masons - until they found out I didn't believe in God. That was the deal breaker.

Liar

Play cards.

Compare cocks

Your everyday Mason is blind to the light ... your basic lodge going bloke who thinks it's merely about men being men together and "making men better men" .... they don't know or have any involvement with what masonry is REALLY about.

Those at the top know the god of Masonry is LUCIFER.

As Albert Pike, the most celebrated mason of American masonic history wrote, "Lucifer is God ..."

That's all you really need to know. They're losers basically. People who can't achieve or be Gods without sucking and getting sucked and basically lowering themselves to the "group."

What do they do? Nothing of any importance. Occasional prayer to an owl. They run the world and America in particular and take a look at the country. No order, when it's never been more needed. They're dummies.

In American popular culture sadly masonry these days is represented by gay black rappers (freehall masonry, which is a joke considering Pike would have hung those blacks) and dumb hollywood people. Harvey Weinstein and Ashton Kutcher, talk about morals and idiots. They're pathetic. Now in England, for example, or Italy, it's a WHOLE other scene and scenario imo.

But as for America, the masonic lodge was infiltrated by the illuminati I've heard, which makes sense, because they're fucking idiots as well.

Why R9? Because he couldn't help him? Or he didn't like masons?

Because he couldn't help him, r16. Wilde was a Mason.

Ok, thanks, R17.

I have no idea, OP, but I was treated for scoliosis as a kid at the local Shriners Hospital. I remember seeing so many little kids in wheelchairs and with all sorts of health and orthopedic issues, and they were all treated for free. Does anyone know if the doctors and staff volunteer their services at the Shriners Hospitals? Regardless, the Shriners helped me out, and even though my condition was relatively minor, I'm very grateful for the treatment I received there.

Nat King Cole:

The famous singer was one of many black musicians who joined Thomas Waller Lodge No. 49, Los Angeles. He joined in 1938, alongside his drummer Lee Young, and stuck by his masonic principles throughout his life. Other prominent musicians of the time that were also masons included the Jazz legend Louis Armstrong, which led one mason to make a speech about the connections between Jazz and Freemasonry. In fact, even the Lodge Nat King Cole attended was named after a jazz musician – Fats Waller – who died around the same time that Cole joined. Cole himself died in 1965, a loyal mason to the end.

FUCK!!!

Most of the founding fathers were masons.

Men’s social groups were all the rage, in particular, until the 20th century.

My grandfather was a 32nd Degree (Scottish Rite) Mason but my father didn't join.

The Shriners are what Dad called "the good time boys" in their fez hats and riding mini-bikes. Their hospitals are a great gift.

Mostly ass-to-mouth, but sometimes just mutual JO.

I would tell you OP, but then I'd have to kill you

[quote] I was treated for scoliosis as a kid at the local Shriners Hospital.

I despise the Shriners for inflicting that creepy, weird-voiced Alec kid on us in their commercials. Other similarly-speeched kids are also in those commercials. I can’t switch to another channel fast enough when I see their commercials.

r4 One religious distinction: Catholics shouldn’t be Masons, as part of the Masonic initiation threatens physical death should a Master Mason reveal any of the secrets of Masonry, and Catholics take an oath not to keep any secrets from the Pope.

The only Mason I care about.

No one's mentioned this?

[quote]Most of the founding fathers were masons. Men’s social groups were all the rage, in particular, until the 20th century.

I live in Sacramento and this was the case for local and California state politicians as well as prominent businessmen of the late 19th to mid 20th century. If you take a tour of the turn of the century Old City cemetery, the docent always points out how many gravestones and markers have Masonic symbols on them. It seemed like any other social institution of the era, except for the secrecy. I wonder how many deals they brokered among themselves that others were not privy to.

I'm not sure what they do at typical meetings but Ray Stevens showed us what happens at the Shriners Convention.

Frottage.

Do they allow gays to join?

They hold back the electric car. And they make Steve Gutenberg a star.

Mozart's "The Magic Flute" is filled with Masonic symbolism. Interesting story at the link.

I don't know what they do these days, but as a kid, they used to do a lot of fundraising (in their hats) for children's hospitals. (I remember seeing them all over Miami at certain times of the year.)

^^ I'm sorry. This was supposed to be, "as a kid, I remember..."

Yes, the Shriners still run a major series of Children's hospitals around the country, that does not charge the families, for this alone they are fine in my book.

r35 yes.

The Freemasons seem harmless and benevolent and a bit daft with their aprons and their rituals and their altars and their arcane secrets about the ways of the universe. And then they seem like a mens' club, raising money for charities.

A couple of people on this thread have mentioned that "higher up" as a member goes further in the Masons things may be more occult, with a tone and content which Christians recognise and call out as Luciferian: satanic - bordering on magic, control and with an agenda which is far less charitable. I suspect there's some truth to that.

But no-one on this thread has mentioned the key effect of belonging to the secret and unaccountable society that is the Freemasons: they help each other out secretly and look out for each other. Not like some sports club or drinking club. These are judges, generals, police, business owners, researchers, politicians, bankers, virtually all of America's first astronauts, royalty... in short people whose decisions affect the lives of thousands, if not millions of people. They protect and advance their own. In the UK they are firmly part of the Establishment - and yet are never called to account - and EVERY key school Eton, Harrow, Westminster etc, producing the Elite, has their Masonic Lodge for old members. A whole network of influence and protectionism that has NEVER been called to account nor properly exposed.

In France and Italy, Masonry is aggressively secular and militant and is implaccably opposed to the Catholic Church which, ever since Masonry appeared, gave as good as it got in return. The response of Masonry was to inflitrate the Catholic Church and subvert it and, in large part, it has been very successful. The Catholic Church of 2019 bears little resemblance to the Catholic Church of 1919.

On the whole my major criticism of Masonry is the unaccountable secrecy of its membership and the fact that it wields huge influence looking after its own without ever being obliged to explain itself.

They are very occult in practice and ritual the higher up you go within the organization.

My grandfather was a Master Mason as were both of his sons, until one son was kicked out for philandering, which was a great shame to my grandfather for the remainder of his life. I have all his memorabilia, ring, pins, insignias, documents, awards. The only instance of Masonic pomp & circumstance I ever witnessed was my grandfather's second funeral. There was the regular funeral in church, and then a Masonic funeral at the cemetery. There were 2 Masons dressed up with sashes and other finery who stood over the coffin with palm fronds in their hands reciting some mumbo jumbo while waving the palms. As the coffin was moved into the crypt they bowed and recited something no one was able to hear. It was all interesting to watch, but just for show. After it was over, the immediate family formed a reception line and all the assembled Masons filed by to give their condolences to each of my grandfather's children, making a big production out of extended conversations with each, until they reached the uncle who had been ejected decades before and was placed at the end of the line. They did nothing more than give him a cursory hand shake and moved on, saying not a word to him. He was an apostate to them and treated as such.

[quote]Do they allow gays to join?

We don't need them. We have the Odd Fellows.

The Electric Slide...

What do they do? Why, they mase and shrine. What else.

Rainbow Girls rocked, Eastern Star not so much.

How about Job's Daughters?

Famous Job's Daughters

Notable former Job's Daughters include Kim Cattrall,

Jacquelynne Fontaine,

Nancy Fleming,

Jenilee Harrison,

Nannette Hegerty,

Vicki Lawrence,

Heather Moore,

Jean Rabe,

Debbie Reynolds,

Aimee Teegarden

Famous Rainbow Girls:

Sandra Day O'Connor, First Female Supreme Court Justice

Dorothy Metcalf-Lindenburger, NASA Astronaut

Jill Kinmount, Olympic skier

Lee Merriwhether, former Miss America

Pam Hardy, Communications Director

Shauna McLean Tompkins, Actress

Anna Davlantes, Television Newscaster for NBC

My dad was a 32nd. Degree Scottish Rite and Shriner. Quite aside from his interest in the occult, he was completely insane. He kept me, a young proto-queer, away from Demolay, but a straight sibling was pretty into that. It's an old boy's network, an enormous time-waster, and mostly bunk.

The Shrine was created to be a silly and fun take on Freemasonry, hence the fezzes and mini cars.

I heard they’re into Indian leg wrestling.

Sounds like cultural appropriation to me.

Do Knights Templar still exist?

Make jars?

In 1933, Clark Gable was initiated into Freemasonry at the Beverly Hills Lodge No.528 CA.

Laura Ingalls Wilder belonged to The Order of the Eastern Star.

R56 yes, the Masonic Knights Templar exist in the USA and many other countries. It had a substantial membership in the 19th Century in the USA, where it is a part of what is typically called the York Rite of Freemasonry. It has no connection with the historical Knights Templar.

A movie theater near me shows slides with ads for local businesses before the film starts. For awhile they had Freemason recruitment ads, including a “fast track” option for becoming a master. It made me think that they’re dying out if they have to resort to ads and gimmicks.

The Marciano Art Foundation museum in LA is in an old Masonic temple, and the most interesting part of it the room filled with Masonic relics and photos. A lot of it was about stage performance. They had lots of wigs, props and costumes, and the large installation room used to be the theater. I think the performances were mostly based on biblical stories. You can stroll around the building and check out the iconography (see the link). It’s a fun afternoon.

For all the Illuminati nonsense, the Masons seemed like a men’s social club with some secret handshakes and rules that made them feel special. Men don’t have anything like that anymore, do they? Promise Keepers is a crude and much less fun version, it seems.

In the mid-20th Century, fraternal organizations were popular with small business owners for the social aspects, but also for the benefits these clubs often provided -- health insurance was a big one.

Here you go, OP

About fraternal orders, in general:

A Ritual Gone Fatally Wrong Puts Light on Masonic Secrecy

By PATRICK HEALY

MARCH 10, 2004

The initiation rituals at the Masonic lodge here had been bathed in secrecy over the years. The climax of Monday night's ceremony was to be a simple prank. A new member of the Fellow Craft Club, a select group within the lodge, would sit in a chair while an older member stood 20 feet away and fired a handgun loaded with blanks.

That ritual went terribly wrong inside Southside Masonic Lodge No. 493, in a basement littered with rat traps, tin cans, a 9-foot-tall guillotine, and a setup designed to mimic walking a plank.

The shooter, a 76-year-old Mason, Albert Eid, was carrying two guns, a .22-caliber handgun with blanks in his left pocket, and a .32-caliber gun with live rounds in his right pocket.

He reached into his right pants pocket, pulled out the wrong gun and shot William James, a 47-year-old fellow Mason, in the face, killing him, the authorities said.

Mr. Eid, a World War II veteran who had a license to carry his own pistol and often did, pleaded not guilty Tuesday afternoon to second-degree manslaughter and released on $2,500 bail. He was wearing his blue Masonic jacket during his arraignment in Central Islip.

R63: The gay ones dance with Chita Rivera--only the straight ones settle for Janet Leigh.