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I miss fag hags

For queers of a certain age, fag hags were often the only straights who we could rely on to be friends and not beat us up or gossip bitchily about us behind our backs.

I wonder where they all went.

by Anonymousreply 59March 30, 2019 5:54 AM

Oh go blow it out of your ass, op!

by Anonymousreply 1February 4, 2019 10:55 PM

Yes. My father was an alcoholic, his poison of choice? Wine. So now I leave glasses of wine around the house for days at a time to ferment so that my house smells like wine for weeks.

by Anonymousreply 2February 4, 2019 10:55 PM

Wtf R2

by Anonymousreply 3February 4, 2019 10:56 PM

They became Fat TRUMP FRAUS.

by Anonymousreply 4February 4, 2019 10:57 PM

We still have Kathy Griffin - America’s First Hag

by Anonymousreply 5February 4, 2019 10:58 PM

My theory is that the real fag hags were in love with us and thought eventually we'd come round to them in the end.

The really serious fag hags often DID marry gay men.

by Anonymousreply 6February 4, 2019 11:02 PM

I wanted to grow up and become a FagHag.

by Anonymousreply 7February 4, 2019 11:03 PM

I miss witty gays like R7 - they're getting rarer and rarer.

by Anonymousreply 8February 4, 2019 11:04 PM

They aren't gone. I'm 27 and my gay friend group includes one. I love that bitch

by Anonymousreply 9February 4, 2019 11:06 PM

I have quite a few Hags and Stag Hags as well…..60 y.o. NYC homo reporting in…..always overweight redheads for some reason……..

by Anonymousreply 10February 4, 2019 11:07 PM

I am literally right here. but, i got fat and you all ignore me now.

by Anonymousreply 11February 4, 2019 11:11 PM

R10 knows of what he speaks!

by Anonymousreply 12February 4, 2019 11:12 PM

What world does OP live in?

A lot of gay guys still have close female friends.

by Anonymousreply 13February 4, 2019 11:12 PM

So does R11!

by Anonymousreply 14February 4, 2019 11:12 PM

Is there a difference between having a female friend and a fag hag? I've had female friends, but somehow I don't think they actually fit the "fag hag" title.

by Anonymousreply 15February 4, 2019 11:13 PM

I think it might be the energy level changes as we get older, and the things we get together and do change. Going to bars, dancing at Roscoes in Boystown in Chicago got replaced by phone calls and detailed conversations about careers and pets. The same kind of thing that happens to a lot of people as they get older.

by Anonymousreply 16February 4, 2019 11:15 PM

I consider it a woman who hangs out mostly with gay men R15

by Anonymousreply 17February 4, 2019 11:15 PM

I've also heard the expression "Fruit Fly."

by Anonymousreply 18February 4, 2019 11:15 PM

We see them all the time with their “husbands” on HGTV.

by Anonymousreply 19February 4, 2019 11:16 PM

You’re like a gay Uncle Tom, OP.

by Anonymousreply 20February 4, 2019 11:18 PM

They've all started hanging out with Shawn Mendes.

by Anonymousreply 21February 4, 2019 11:18 PM

I wish I was a tape worm inside your colon.

by Anonymousreply 22February 4, 2019 11:19 PM

Gay men have/had them, not "queers". Stop trying to make that stupid word happen.

by Anonymousreply 23February 4, 2019 11:22 PM

[quote]Is there a difference between having a female friend and a fag hag?

I think a fag hag needed to demonstrate a certain "fuck you" to the conventions of society.

Now we are a convention of society (mostly), and it's simply friends.

by Anonymousreply 24February 4, 2019 11:27 PM

I am a woman. I had some wonderful gay male friends when I was young and running around in cities working in Restaurants. I miss them. I was in a museum last summer, a wonderful gay man in the gift shop drew maps and made recommendations for places to go and see and I really wished he and his partner would have joined me - I really enjoy art, antiques - just a wide variety of topics and I really wish I had a friendship I could enjoy talking about such things. Probably why I am here, I adore some of these threads. I am straight but had a career in the military so I lean a little more towards logical male kind of thinking. It was a good match. I hate to wax all poetic but I enjoyed the depth of conversations I had with these male friends with no sexual tension - it was such a honest connection soul to soul that is too rare - I especially miss during the Holidays when I wish I could cook for and gossip with and just enjoy the company of another soul and there are a lot of elder gays alone. Maybe its because I always sort of swam against the stream myself in my own way. I miss the kindred depth. Nobody else wants to talk about Andy Warhol you know?

by Anonymousreply 25February 4, 2019 11:32 PM

R25 go on and get

by Anonymousreply 26February 4, 2019 11:35 PM

Fag hags belong to a distant era when gay men behaved like minstrels/uncle toms to straights. All in the past now.

by Anonymousreply 27February 4, 2019 11:37 PM

Fag hags are the best. They go with you to the clubs/bars. They laugh at your joke so the hot guy will think you're funny. They check out if a guy at the bar is gay or not (soooo many would not be surprisingly). They did tend to skew larger. I guess both of us are lonely so it is a good match. There is a legendary one in Houston. She knows all the porn stars, has huge parties at her house, buys rounds of drinks for all her gays, drinks all the time. Every night I have hung with her is legendary. I kid you not. Her initial are LJ if anyone is from there.

by Anonymousreply 28February 4, 2019 11:43 PM

I mean, I guess I could be called one? I have friends of all genders and persuasions, I'm generally considered sweet and easy to get along with--plus, while I love hanging out and talking with other women, I'm kind of unconventional. I'd rather talk beefcake than baking and worked for Playgirl for a while, also love indie/B movies and Andy Warhol-style art. I have a lot of fun here and have never had problems with anyone.

by Anonymousreply 29February 4, 2019 11:58 PM

What about our cool older female cousins who loved to spoiled and played with us little 'outgoing' little boys? I loved my teen cousins who would let me tag along at age 4 and 5.

by Anonymousreply 30February 5, 2019 12:09 AM

I always thought of Stanford Blatch as a Fag Hag.

by Anonymousreply 31February 5, 2019 12:14 AM

I guess the hags now have other stuff to do besides be super-hags, probably big into political activism or something. Gays can marry now and don't need hags as much for bearding purposes, unless they're from more conservative cultures. I think this is where hags still thrive, personally know hags (2 Asians, 1 Latina) who are beards for their gays.

by Anonymousreply 32February 5, 2019 12:30 AM

All of my female friends faded after they met their husbands and then were even worse after they had kids. Complete ghosts. I actually am better friends with one of the moms of one of them & the daughter (my former friend in HS in the 90s) couldn't be bothered to read a call or text from me if it said her house was on fire.

I never go to bars anymore & there never were that many girls in there, even in the early 2000s when I mostly went. Are you saying there are less now than... when? Also, straight girls are aware of the backlash / irritation they create with bachelorette parties and such. I think the Abbey specifically addressed this issue but I can't remember exactly what happened.

by Anonymousreply 33February 5, 2019 12:35 AM

That's really odd... I put the name of a certain bar & then it posted to look like [...] but it doesn't really matter what bar it was - it's just an issue that probably made straight girls even less interested in going to gay bars. Or maybe they still do. Most gay guys I know don't even go to gay bars anymore.

by Anonymousreply 34February 5, 2019 12:36 AM

The upside of millennials being so full of themselves is they're a lot less self-loathing.

by Anonymousreply 35February 5, 2019 12:37 AM

No no, not bachelorette parties in the gay bars. I mean being the one fag hag with a group of gay men who knows how to be there. Buy a fun drink everyone asks about like a Blue Hawaiian and make good conversation and chat men up with friends. A wing girl. The Abbey decision was correct. Here's an article linked.

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by Anonymousreply 36February 5, 2019 12:37 AM

I will say this, a goofy fag hag straight girl who goes out with her gay friends when she's in college and grad school makes a great "safe space" faculty member when she is a professor with tenure. They will help a lot of our younger family as they come out in college over the years because there was an older family member who under them under their wing and went out dancing with them at gay bars and dyke bars. Share the love.

by Anonymousreply 37February 5, 2019 12:41 AM

Two of my guys moved out of West Hollywood, two moved out of state. The two in CA got husbands, or serious boyfriends and live domesticated lives. I occasionally surf with one and have dinner with another. The third one I visited about 3 years ago and it was so nice reminiscing about our clubbing days in the 90’s. The fourth is having a high old time in Austin.

It seems to me that the gaylings really don’t like women, hence the lack of hags.

by Anonymousreply 38February 5, 2019 12:43 AM

A true fag hag isn't straight. Straight women do enjoy gays as do straight men to a lesser extent. Doesn't qualify them as fag hags though. That's all fine and well but it's a compartmentalized thing that gay liking straights can easily separate from. Fag hags effortlessly immerse and plug into whatever homo circle they fit in and thrive. They live for it.

by Anonymousreply 39February 5, 2019 1:37 AM

The new generation of fag hags are too busy fawning over transwomen to bother with the gays.

by Anonymousreply 40February 5, 2019 1:45 AM

My favorite fag hag story from ages ago: we were at a bar and a gay guy called our fag hag friend "second class trash".

She slapped him and screamed "nothing about me is second class".

And that's the difference between female friends and fag hag friends.

by Anonymousreply 41March 30, 2019 12:58 AM

Every idiot fag who drags hags into gay bars should get punched in the nutsack until he bleeds. The hags take over the bars, they become breeder bars. Half of the gay bars in DC are gone. What was once a vibrant bar scene at Dupont Circle is filled with bitchy ass hags whining about .... gays. Nellies, which used to be a gay sports bar is been so overrun by straights because of stupid fags taking their hags there it no longer advertises as a gay bar. On weekends, it’s completely straight.

So, thanks you dickless cowards. You’re not man enough to go in a gay bar without a hag holding your dick. They take over the bars.

by Anonymousreply 42March 30, 2019 1:18 AM

Die lonely, R42

by Anonymousreply 43March 30, 2019 1:44 AM

That scene was before my time, but isn't the stereotypical trope that the FH gets married, has kids, moves to the burbs, her gay friend remains in the city, being Peter Pan and still doing all the bars-Pines-bars stuff and they drift apart and don't have much to say to each other, then he becomes a lonely who posts on some old school internet message board called Datalounge... and she posts on Facebook about which colleges her kids got into and where she's going on her next vacation....

by Anonymousreply 44March 30, 2019 1:50 AM

Wouldn't surprise me r40. I hope r42 is satire. I think the straight ladies who frequent popular gay bars aren't fag hags. Benign gay friendly interlopers perhaps at times though I only read about it's dire prevalence on DL every so often.

by Anonymousreply 45March 30, 2019 2:04 AM

I had one all throughout college and she was the worst. I did learn a lot and had some great times with her though. Definitely brought me out of my shell. Its been about five or six years since. Don't really want another at the moment.

by Anonymousreply 46March 30, 2019 2:06 AM

R44, no. The stereotypical faghag did not have boyfriend prospects. That was too bad, too. Because they were (and are) sweet, supportive ladies.

And, in my opinion, we treated them too often as disposable.

by Anonymousreply 47March 30, 2019 2:08 AM

I believe the definition of a fag hag was a woman who hung out “exclusively” with gay guys. There were women like that back in the bar days. Also, fag hags were known for sleeping with or having sex with gay guys (yes it happened before AIDS). AIDS changed all that and a lot of the fag hags became care takers as well as some of the only people we could count on during those times. Somebody needs to write a book about these women’s experiences. It won’t be long and all of that history will be gone too.

Okay you dirty fuckers, go ahead and fire away. I hate you too!

Okay

by Anonymousreply 48March 30, 2019 2:11 AM

Any bona fide self professed fag hags in the house?

by Anonymousreply 49March 30, 2019 2:12 AM

To clarify, the fag hag would hang out exclusively with the fags and sometimes have sex with them. Female friends don’t do that.

by Anonymousreply 50March 30, 2019 2:13 AM

They still exist.

by Anonymousreply 51March 30, 2019 2:25 AM

R42 You need a kielbasa in your ass hon.

by Anonymousreply 52March 30, 2019 2:27 AM

R52 I’m the Bringer of the Kielbasa. Need some?

by Anonymousreply 53March 30, 2019 3:43 AM

R48. They don’t move away anymore. They get married and stay in the city. They drag other Hagettes with them and wreck the bars.

Female privilege. Zero concept they’re intruding or unwanted. Nope.

by Anonymousreply 54March 30, 2019 3:45 AM

Yeah R48. I was just going to say, all of my gay friends died in the '80s. Horrible time.

by Anonymousreply 55March 30, 2019 4:09 AM

What would someone be called, say if they were a straight female whose every crush or love object always turned out to be a good-looking gay man? Not that this ever happened for real, but just supposing..lol

by Anonymousreply 56March 30, 2019 4:29 AM

Ditto, r11.

by Anonymousreply 57March 30, 2019 5:11 AM

Where have all the fag hags gone?

Long time passing

Where have all the fag hags gone?

Long time ago

Where have all the fag hags gone?

Gone to assisted living, every one

by Anonymousreply 58March 30, 2019 5:20 AM

The outdated fag hag concept was a stereotype where gay men were not able to have long lasting relationships with men, because gay men fuck relationships up with their urge to have sex with lots and lots of men and therefore their longest lasting relationships are with (ugly) women they don't want to have sex with.

by Anonymousreply 59March 30, 2019 5:54 AM
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