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Transgender Navy commander to accompany Sen. Gillibrand to Trump's state of the union speech

WASHINGTON — When President Donald Trump delivers his delayed State of the Union address this week, looking back at him from the audience will be the first openly transgender officer to get promoted in the military.

Decorated Navy Lt. Cmdr. Blake Dremann will attend the speech as a guest of Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, in hopes of sending a message to Trump that his ban on transgender people serving in the military will not stand.

“Lt. Cmdr. Dremann is a proud member of the U.S. Navy, he is a loyal patriot who has devoted his career to serving and protecting our country, and he is also one of the thousands of transgender service members serving in our military with honor and distinction," Gillibrand said.

Trump infamously rolled out his ban on Twitter in July of 2017, catching his then-secretary of defense, Jim Mattis, by surprise.

Since then, Mattis instituted a policy that wouldn't throw out current service members who are transgender, but would ban new ones from signing up and bar service members from beginning gender transition.

For Dremann’s part, he hopes the president — and the rest of the country — sees in him a human face, and realizes that he and people like him fully intend to keep doing their jobs, and rise above whatever walls are placed in the way.

"My intention is to simply bring a personal face to being transgender in the military,” Dremann said. "We are serving with honor, courage, and commitment to a cause greater than ourselves. And we will continue to do so."

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The other candidates must be SO pissed they didn't think of that.

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by Anonymousreply 92February 9, 2019 9:18 PM

Too bad Lt. Cmdr. Dremann is hitching her wagon to such an unmitigated cunt like Gillibrand.

by Anonymousreply 1February 4, 2019 10:03 PM

AOC's guest is her constituent Ana Maria Archila, who was one of the women to confront Flake in the elevator during the Kavanaugh hearings. Also a smart move.

These women know what they are doing.

by Anonymousreply 2February 4, 2019 10:07 PM

Still wouldn't vote for either.

by Anonymousreply 3February 4, 2019 10:12 PM

[quote]These women know what they are doing.

Yes, inviting a self loathing dyke to the party is always a headline getter. Actual lesbians are so passé.

by Anonymousreply 4February 4, 2019 10:15 PM

Woof!!!

by Anonymousreply 5February 4, 2019 10:16 PM

Chuck "Charlotte" Clymer fan Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is just a dingbat but Gillibrand show all signs that her time at douche bro-central, Dartmouth, internalized her misogyny and now she's more than willing to swallow when a Girl Dick tells her too.

by Anonymousreply 6February 4, 2019 10:16 PM

R4 can't seem to be happy for someone else.

Some self loathing & fear mongering going on there.

Pity.

by Anonymousreply 7February 4, 2019 10:27 PM

Between this and the Democrat who is bringing the 2 "undocumented" aliens who submitted fraudulent documents to work at a Trump golf course, the Dems are doomed in 2020. They insist on hitching their wagon to a lame horse. I give up. I'm moving to Europe. Thanks Scandinavian grandparents!

by Anonymousreply 8February 4, 2019 10:29 PM

Even Helen Keller knows that's a woman.

by Anonymousreply 9February 4, 2019 10:32 PM

What is it, though?

by Anonymousreply 10February 4, 2019 10:35 PM

On its homepage, HRC has a tab for Transgender, but no special tabs for anyone else.

Searching the HRC website, it seems lesbians don't exist, except to front the Alphabet Soup.

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by Anonymousreply 11February 4, 2019 10:38 PM

Will Ohio Congressman, Jim Jordan, again be giving ex-County Clerk, Kim Davis, a ticket this year?

by Anonymousreply 12February 4, 2019 10:42 PM

[quote]R4] can't seem to be happy for someone else. Some self loathing & fear mongering going on there. Pity.

When you have no argument, resort to ad hominem and lies. Works every time.

There’s no “fear mongering” here dear. No one is afraid of a chipmunk cheeked lez standing all of 5’4 in her dress blues.

Why should the gay community be happy that our representation is no longer out gay and lesbian service members or vets- you know the ones that actually had to struggle to get nondiscriminatory practices shut down in the military- but self hating women like this one who’d rather be a straight man than a gay woman?

by Anonymousreply 13February 4, 2019 10:47 PM

I noticed that in the HRC site as well there was transgender and bi but no gay or lesbian. Interesting

by Anonymousreply 14February 4, 2019 10:50 PM

The apple fell close to the tree.

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by Anonymousreply 15February 4, 2019 11:07 PM

63% of Transgender "women" are attracted to women, according to the National Center for Transgender Equality, so they're not even gay men.

89% of transgender "women" keep their dicks, according to the same source, so the people "gay" organizations are now centering in their activism are intact, heterosexual males.

by Anonymousreply 16February 4, 2019 11:13 PM

They are handing the next election to Trump. The average person can see straight through this woke bullshit. They would be better off bringing an unemployed person or someone who is suffering because they can’t afford health care. These issues are relatable. A lesbian with issues and a screeching chick is not going to do it.

by Anonymousreply 17February 4, 2019 11:34 PM

How quickly R16 forgets the spelling ability of Dan Quayle & the messed up straight men on Q. Eye For The Straight Guy.

by Anonymousreply 18February 4, 2019 11:35 PM

R17 forgets or isn't aware that the majority of Americans support all of the trans agenda = serving in the military, changing id photos, job protection, housing protection, adoption rights, etc.

The fear mongering from the DL is just shocking on trans issues.

by Anonymousreply 19February 4, 2019 11:37 PM

Too bad she didn't invite any of the many gay and lesbians struggling to maintain small businesses in the state of New York.

It would be good politics and speak to issues that all Americans can deal with: small business health care plans, providing minimum wages while remaining profitable, etc.

There are literally dozens of critical demographics Dems could appeal to and they choose the fringe of the fringe.

by Anonymousreply 20February 4, 2019 11:44 PM

So each member of Congress gets to bring a guest? Is this like Dogfight, each trying to outdo the other with the most extreme example?

by Anonymousreply 21February 4, 2019 11:44 PM

R19 No, most Americans don’t agree with the entitled TIM agenda. People are completely willing to accept another person’s style of dress, name preference, even pronouns, but most draw the line at tax-payers paying for surgery, hair removal, and Rxs.

by Anonymousreply 22February 4, 2019 11:45 PM

[quote]the majority of Americans support all of the trans agenda = serving in the military, changing id photos, job protection, housing protection, adoption rights, etc.

Receipts please.

by Anonymousreply 23February 4, 2019 11:46 PM

[quote]The fear mongering from the DL is just shocking on trans issues.

What do you expect from Republicans? Intelligence?

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by Anonymousreply 24February 4, 2019 11:47 PM

But most Americans do oppose Trump's transgender ban, so this is smart politics on Gillibrand's part.

by Anonymousreply 25February 4, 2019 11:47 PM

They will not invite someone struggling because of lack of healthcare or a job because they are not going to fight Pharma and Insurance companies, their donors, for healthcare, nor their Wall Street donors re the economy/unemployment/taxes so it bs gender identity stuff which will also get them money from donors HRC, GLAAD, Pharma, etc.

by Anonymousreply 26February 4, 2019 11:47 PM

Gillibrand is tone deaf on what people care about

by Anonymousreply 27February 4, 2019 11:48 PM

R16’s stats are not common knowledge amongst the public. “Trans” will be over as a movement once they are. It’s best to publicise them whenever possible and to explain to trans-ignorant straight people that there is a drive for intact males to be allowed in women’s-only spaces.

I no longer genuinely believe transgenderism, as originally sold, exists. It is essentially medicalised and commercialised misogyny and homophobia, with some good-old-fashioned male perviness from the autogynephiles. It is so acceptable and celebrated because homophobia, misogyny and male desires and demands are so celebrated.

by Anonymousreply 28February 4, 2019 11:48 PM

Jesus Christ.... when will it end?

by Anonymousreply 29February 4, 2019 11:50 PM

Seriously as a former Navy female - sorry - no. I'd like to know how in the world you work for and salute that? What are the PFT standards for that? Does it comply with male standards of fitness and weight or do they still perform female PFT? I could not even deal with it. Its hard enough serving in uniform - not to have to tip toe around this stuff. No. No transgenders in the military sorry - and the lesbians I served with were by and large problematic pains in the ass. Sorry, but its true. Worst sexual harassment I faced as well. NO I don't want to try it to see if I like it. What a mess - I am glad I am retired. Would not want to serve under or managed subordinates with all their special issues. Just no. Unfathomable deployment issues - where do they even house them? Can't even serve as a diabetic but they want special accommodations for this? No. Just no.

by Anonymousreply 30February 4, 2019 11:50 PM

Hmm, lots of uninformed Dem bashing in this thread. Gee I wonder why?

R26, actually a number of Dems have invitees who will be there specifically to represent workers for various reasons, as well as health care. In fact, if you read the article, you'd see a variety of issues on the Dem platform will be represented.

"Freshman Rep. Jennifer Wexton (D-Va.) has invited Linda ­McCray, who works at the Washington Air Route Traffic Control Center and was furloughed during the recent shutdown, Wexton’s office said. Sen. Robert P. Casey Jr. (D-Pa.) will bring a Transportation Security Administration agent from Pittsburgh International Airport, his office said.

Rep. Tim Ryan (D-Ohio) has invited Dave Green, president of UAW Local 1112, which represents workers at a General Motors plant in Lordstown, Ohio, that the company has said will close this year.

“Since GM’s announcement to close the Lordstown plant, [Green has] been working around-the-clock to support GM workers and advocate for a new product at the facility. Dave will be representing the hundreds of laid off GM Lordstown workers who deserve to be seen and heard,” Ryan said in a statement.

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This year, at least four Democrats will host guests whose personal stories intersect with debates about health-care policy.

Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) has invited Nicole Smith-Holt, an advocate for lower-priced insulin who is based in Richfield, Minn.

Smith-Holt’s son Alec had Type 1 diabetes and died at age 26 after losing health insurance coverage through her plan. She believes he was rationing insulin because of its high cost; the family’s story was covered by The Washington Post last month.

Sen. Maggie Hassan (D-N.H.) has invited Donna Beckman of Seabrook, N.H., who received a bill for $1,648 after visiting an emergency room that was in her network under her health insurance but seeing a doctor who was not, as she later learned. Hassan has introduced legislation to alleviate the problem of surprise out-of-network medical bills.

“Members of both parties — including President Trump — have expressed a desire to address this issue, and I’m optimistic that we can make progress to end this absurd practice in the year ahead,” Hassan said in a statement.

Rep. Colin Allred (D-Tex.), who is co-president of the freshman class, has invited Nathan Cortez of Dallas, whose late wife Natalie was an advocate for keeping the patient protections created by the Affordable Care Act, including its ban on lifetime coverage limits. Natalie Cortez died of cancer last year, Allred said last month on the House floor.

Rep. Sharice Davids (D-Kan.) has invited Laura Robeson, an advocate from Prairie Village, Kan., whose son Danny was born prematurely and has several severe medical conditions.

“Laura is passionate about making sure her son Danny, and other kids with medical conditions have access to the care they need,” Davids said in a statement. “Hosting her as my guest for the State of the Union is an opportunity to highlight the dangers of allowing insurance companies to discriminate against people based on their medical histories.”

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by Anonymousreply 31February 4, 2019 11:54 PM

Looks like a female WC Fields

by Anonymousreply 32February 4, 2019 11:55 PM

And there is no way that fat jolly little commander is to weight standards!!! You wanna be a man ok - meet male standards. Absolutely obvious this butter ball is over weight. Disgusting mess. The military is not a social experiment.

by Anonymousreply 33February 4, 2019 11:56 PM

I love that Gillibrand is getting a little bitch like R30 to jump like a trained seal with the "on time" outrage.

Working the rubes like they were toys.

by Anonymousreply 34February 5, 2019 12:00 AM

R33 granted , not attractive but does seem H/W proportionate.

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by Anonymousreply 35February 5, 2019 12:01 AM

That’s one ugly lesbian.

by Anonymousreply 36February 5, 2019 12:02 AM

Bless him. Glad he got out.

[quote] He graduated from Ozark Christian College in 2003 with a Bachelor of Biblical Literature.

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by Anonymousreply 37February 5, 2019 12:07 AM

Not with that gut below the belt line. And what PFT standards does it meet? The linked article with the airmen who has been on testosterone for a year and has a nice nose piercing and multiple tattoos all over their lower arms - I don't think they really understand what military service is all about. I do not support this at all. Hormone therapy is extensive correct? And yet you can't serve on insulin? I could go on and on - service to country is not a social experiment. I have a vast network of friends in Uniform still in all branches due to Veterans advocacy I have been involved with - absolutely hell no is this widely accepted and welcomed in service. I don't really care who is butt hurt about that either. Obviously their first priority is to their transition - and that alone is a distraction from duty. Its a narcissist storm of disaster - its is nothing but a festival of "look at me" - it has absolutely no place in military service. Oh you need to go to medical again for your bag of hormones? Oh you need to spend 6 hours a day dilating your front hole? Oh double mastectomies on tax payer dollar and military sick leave? Transitioning is a MEDICALLY ASSISTED PROCESS - there is just no time for this special medical personal process in uniform. Its not about YOU in uniform. Its about the needs of the Navy, or dedicated branch. Unreal this even has to be explained - oh the tranny has to to go to medical again . . . just no - get out and do your special dance of delusion at the VA. I will support the VA in providing assistance AFTER military service. It just has no place in uniform. So sorry, not sorry.

by Anonymousreply 38February 5, 2019 12:11 AM

And has a father who is a pastor too.

Incidentally, I note some families take the view that better a straight son than a gay daughter.

by Anonymousreply 39February 5, 2019 12:11 AM

[quote]graduated from Ozark Christian College in 2003 with a Bachelor of Biblical Literature.

Good Christ (no pun intended), that about says it all.

[quote]Does it comply with male standards of fitness and weight or do they still perform female PFT?

Yeah, I was wondering that too, but we all know the answer: she’s being held to female standards. If she was in basic, she’d be housed with other women.

by Anonymousreply 40February 5, 2019 12:12 AM

Yes, let's constantly make people think trannies are the face of the Democratic party.

That surely won't get Trump reelected.

by Anonymousreply 41February 5, 2019 12:13 AM

[quote]I love that Gillibrand is getting a little bitch like [R30] to jump like a trained seal with the "on time" outrage. Working the rubes like they were toys.

And guess who they will all vote for again in 2020, r34? And guess who else won't bother to vote at all if the tranny agenda is on the Dem's plate? Former Hillary voters like me, that's who r34. Gloat your way into a landslide for tRump in 2020.

by Anonymousreply 42February 5, 2019 12:21 AM

She has lovely rosy cheeks

by Anonymousreply 43February 5, 2019 12:21 AM

Most people support “trans rights” until it is explained to them what “trans” actually means these days and what trans rights’ activists are demanding.

That said, I initially thought banning Ts in the military was a little excessive. But I think the difficulty is that transgenderism just isn’t what it’s portrayed as being. It is clear to me that isn’t about being one’s authentic self etc, so much as hating oneself, and that causes all kinds of issues.

by Anonymousreply 44February 5, 2019 12:33 AM

Poor R33 has never seen/heard of Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf.

He was even portrayed on SNL by overweight actor Chris Farley =

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by Anonymousreply 45February 5, 2019 12:49 AM

The trans Navy Commander even resembles him =

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by Anonymousreply 46February 5, 2019 12:51 AM

Here are some receipts R23 =

70% of U.S. VOTERS support trans military service members = January 29, 2019

This is only a winning issue for repubs in their primaries.

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by Anonymousreply 47February 5, 2019 12:55 AM

R30? Chances are good that servicemen harassed you all the time, but that didn't count, because they were men and that was OK by you. I mean, you were prob'ly in the Navy looking for a husband anyway!

I served in the US Army when lesbians were not allowed to serve. I would NEVER have made a pass at a straight female; not only could they rat you out, but there were simply too many lesbians to chose from, since in my experience, literally half the women in the military when I was in were lesbians. As for the straight women, I never met a straight woman in the military that didn't have her pick of men no matter how ugly she was -- and many of them married a guy much better than anyone they could have had "back home."

I, OTOH, was raped as soon as I got out of basic training (yes, by a man), and another man (an E-7, no less) tried to rape me three weeks later -- but I escaped before he could do it. When I reported it to my 2nd LT., he simply told me it was my word against his, so you know that after that, I just didn't bother anymore.

So don't come to DL and whine about lesbians sexually harassing you. I'm sure you had a veritable gaggle of men you picked from who were more than happy to protect you from the evil lesbians. And if you wrote your comment to get a rise out of someone here, you accomplished your mission. I don't even give a fuck if you're a troll. Get the fuck off DL with your straight girl (or trollish) bullshit.

There's an old saying about women in the military that the women serving are either dykes or whores. And like any stereotype, there's a core of truth to that. I think R30 has made it clear which side she falls on.

by Anonymousreply 48February 5, 2019 1:01 AM

More receipts from 8-25-16 =

72% of Americans want job protections laws for LGB & T.

80% think it is already illegal to fire someone who is LGB or T at the federal level.

75% of democrats & 67% of repubs supported it in 2016.

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by Anonymousreply 49February 5, 2019 1:03 AM

R48 just handed R30 her ass on a platter.

Nothing else to post.....

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by Anonymousreply 50February 5, 2019 1:07 AM

Oh, a right wing tranny, how surprising, they are so rare,

by Anonymousreply 51February 5, 2019 1:10 AM

R49 ugh, that’s from The Atlantic which is a huge Transgenda pusher. As is Washington Blade at R47.

by Anonymousreply 52February 5, 2019 1:17 AM

It's really hard-fought support for LGB. The public doesn't know what T means yet. But they will.

by Anonymousreply 53February 5, 2019 1:18 AM

Not that I believe your figures, R49, but why don't you get back to us when Americans find out that the Democrats are pushing a bill, the Equality Act, that would change the definition of "sex" to include "gender identity"?

Because when Americans find out that any man can self-identify as a woman and force granny to share her nursing home room, or their 10-year-old daughter to be naked in a locker room with a naked stranger, your figures are going to change.

The Transgender lobby has huge bucks behind it, bucks raised by LBGT organizations like HRC that don't even bother to have a gay or lesbian page on their website, but they do have a TRANSGENDER page, with all sorts of actions they're taking on behalf of transgenders.

Go look at HRC's website for yourself. Gays and lesbians mean nothing, and it's all about pushing the Cocks in Frocks.

Follow the money: $524 million dollars raised for gay organizations via 511 foundations, 15 government agencies, and 12,964 grants

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by Anonymousreply 54February 5, 2019 1:19 AM

The polls at r49 are LGBT, not T alone. As r53 says, that’s the product of the hard-fought battles won by generations of gay men and lesbian women.

by Anonymousreply 55February 5, 2019 1:21 AM

[quote] Does it comply with male standards of fitness and weight or do they still perform female PFT?

If you look closely at the sleeve specialty patch above her rank stripes, she is a supply officer. They probably cut her slack as long as she keeps the Milky Way bars on the shelves.

by Anonymousreply 56February 5, 2019 2:12 AM

Once again. Polls showing broad support for trans rights either include LGB in the question, or fail to explain what many trans activists want including self-ID with its consequences for vulnerable women in hospitals and locker rooms as explained above.

The general public thinks “trans” means “trapped inside wrong body, desperately wants wang cut off to feel normal etc or they will kill themselves.” These days it means “wealthy, white male often working in IT who wants to keep his cock and balls and call himself a lesbian and scream at dykes who won’t give him blow jobs” or “troubled self-hating teen thinks testosterone and a mastectomy will stop her hating what patriarchy makes her think she should want.” There is absolutely nothing positive about this ideology and any trans person who claims to be happy invariably spouts troubling gender nonsense or has mental health issues visible from space.

by Anonymousreply 57February 5, 2019 1:25 PM

Lt Commander Blake looks sloppy in his/her uniform. The shirt doesn't seem to fit well, and the pants are struggling with the paunch.

by Anonymousreply 58February 5, 2019 1:51 PM

Does she want our tax dollars to pay for testosterone so she can grow a little billy goat scruff?

Does she want a fake weiner that doesn't work too?

Being a bull dyke used to be so cheap: a buzz cut, an ace bandage, and a pair of sensible shoes. This trans shit is too much.

by Anonymousreply 59February 5, 2019 3:21 PM

Most press makes Blake’s tours of duty sound like the Battle of Midway, but not the case

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by Anonymousreply 60February 5, 2019 3:25 PM

R48 How interesting how you define service. Let me tell you about me. I joined the Navy - where I was harassed by ugly bull dyke lesbian butches. Sorry if you find that so hard to wrap your head around. I later served in the Air Force. Both those branches take higher IQ to get in than the Army. I am Heterosexual and you bet your damn ass scooting I had my absolute pick of the finest of men. I enjoyed them. Am I a whore? Who are you to define and cap anyones sexual behavior? Unlike you I had I an extremely successful career that lasted 23 years cupcake. I was attractive, fit - scored outstanding on my PFT and have a Valor award for Combat, in which i did serve and by the way my position in the Command Post on a forward operating base was attacked. I am not afraid of you. You would hate me, thats right hate me - why? Because not only was Sierra Hotel in Uniform, figuring out a performance anomaly on an Air Force weapons platform that redefined how the Air Force continued to fly said Air Frame - but I am also attractive and did not fuck my way up the chain of command. When I decided to fuck my male coworkers - just like in the civilian world - I picked out the best. Since I fuck men am I a whore? So sad and disgusting that you define female service members as either dykes or whores - but well - you were Army. So here you are defending this tranny in uniform I suppose because that is just so much better than the alternative - dykes and whores who serve our country. Nobody wants trannies in the ranks. I don't care what your CNN polls say. Hate on me for tooting my own horn, don't care - you have been dismissed.

by Anonymousreply 61February 5, 2019 3:27 PM

R48, I am sorry that you were raped. Truly.

by Anonymousreply 62February 5, 2019 3:28 PM

Giilibrand normalizing the "trans" nonsense. That ought to garner a TONNE of votes for the Dems.

by Anonymousreply 63February 5, 2019 3:33 PM

Rape of females is epidemic in Military Service - sorry to deliver that fact. Instead of wasting her energy attacking other female service members as all being dykes and whores - maybe she should go down to the VA and file for PTSD for MST. Oh, but that would be - proactive. Much better to spend her time advocating for trannies on Active Duty.

by Anonymousreply 64February 5, 2019 3:33 PM

Do dudes get "raped" in the military?

by Anonymousreply 65February 5, 2019 3:41 PM

Don’t they have to take hormones for the rest of their lives? What if they are in combat and don’t have access to any? What if they become POWs in a third world country?

by Anonymousreply 66February 5, 2019 3:53 PM

Absolutely dudes get raped in the military. Rape is an act of violence - Military Sexual Trauma can affect anyone in uniform. I actually think its harder psychologically for males who are raped - the stigma around seeking support and help is much higher. Fortunately they are coming around to providing expanded care at the VA - the situation regarding MST has improved a lot in the past 10 years. If we want to get nitty gritty about the realities of Military service - heads are going to explode. It is NOT a politically correct environment - and you can't iron out all the bumps in the road to make any one group happy. It really is service before self. There are no safe spaces in Combat zones. This is why it is not an environment for those who want to actively transition. Forward Operating Combat zones are no place to be going to medical for your bags of Hormones. Not to mention - fratricide - does occur, it does. Go ahead and transition with all your fancy special me, me, me focus and you're likely to find yourself tossed into the hanger bay or off the side of the Carrier. Of course I don't advocate for that and think its horrible - but this is reality. Reality is not always convenient. Also while there are plenty of High IQ roles and positions within the military - where understanding of this process might be more accepted - there are a lot of 85 IQ types peeling paint and working in warm body positions coming from the back woods or urban gang bang cultures serving as well. The entire panorama is difficult for civilians to really understand. Its really not a place for social experimentation.

by Anonymousreply 67February 5, 2019 3:56 PM

Blake needs to work out bit. He is kinda fat.

Get that Testosterone working

by Anonymousreply 68February 5, 2019 3:56 PM

You know when they want to trim down the ranks and get people out the thing they do is step up the physical fitness and weight standards. SO - what if you are transitioning and dealing with hormones and what not - and you fail your PFT - what standards are the female to males going to be held to?

I am going to be honest from a supervisory point of view you are going to have to be special managing your work environment for one of these 24/7 so as to insure it is not a "hostile environment" - what if you have a not very transitioned male - you are now allowing in female berthing - and you have bio females finding that creates a "hostile environment" - for them???? Can you not see the nightmare - look civilian world expectations and reality are very different from the rigors of life in service. People with ezcema, asthma, diabetes or TAKING CERTAIN PSYCH MEDS, just to name a few - are disqualified from service. How are the medical rigors of transitioning going to be over looked for these special special special individuals born in the wrong body??????

by Anonymousreply 69February 5, 2019 4:04 PM

This lesbian salutes you, R30/R61.

by Anonymousreply 70February 5, 2019 5:03 PM

I don't care who serves in the military as long as it's not me.

You want tax dollars to grow a mustache, that's fine. Thank you for your service.

by Anonymousreply 71February 5, 2019 6:44 PM

R30 R61 Great posts, totally on point

by Anonymousreply 72February 5, 2019 7:03 PM

This thread is awesome for FF and banning bigots and trolls. Thanks for showing us all your assholes, trolls!!

by Anonymousreply 73February 5, 2019 7:10 PM

Like Gillibrand will get anywhere near being the nominee. She's a feckless cunt unto herself.

by Anonymousreply 74February 5, 2019 7:21 PM

I don't understand how depression and diabetes can get you kicked out but trans is hickory dory. I don't care what Trump says it's up to the military.

by Anonymousreply 75February 5, 2019 9:20 PM

Kirsten Gillibrand championed false-rape accuser Mattress Girl and got Franken kicked out of the Senate with bogus #MeToo charges, and yet she supports the legal redefinition of the word "sex" to include "gender identity" thus allowing men into locker rooms and the rooms of severely disabled women and forcing women to get TSA patdowns by "women" with dicks.

Is she stupid? Bought? Both?

Given her incredible cognitive dissonance and that the formerly gay lobby, that has morphed into the Transgender Lobby, had more than $500 million to play with last year, I'd say she's both.

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by Anonymousreply 76February 5, 2019 9:52 PM

I can't with radfems. It's not even so much that i disagree with them, just... the intensity. the paranoia. the shrill obsessiveness.

by Anonymousreply 77February 5, 2019 10:01 PM

Some rad fems are lesbians. Do lesbians bother you r77? Or would you rather they shut up, deny their gayness, and pretend to be men like the good little soldier here?

by Anonymousreply 78February 5, 2019 10:17 PM

Remove Gender Identity from the Equality Act

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by Anonymousreply 79February 5, 2019 10:22 PM

R77, gay men and women are at the frontlines of opposing the Transgender Lobby- why?

Because if there's no such thing as biological sex, there's no such thing as same sex attraction, and therefore there is no such thing as a homosexual.

If the Democrat and Gillibrand-pushed Equality Act is made into law, and the definition of the word "sex" legally includes "gender identity" your rights as a gay man will suffer, so I would suggest you read the linked thread all the way through.

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by Anonymousreply 80February 5, 2019 11:06 PM

77- Sorry that you have no self love. I wonder where you were when AIDS camera about. IT is so obvious that is is YOUR brothers that fought against the gay shaming there and for Marriage Equality. But listen this sucker; you don't get to say who and who should visit this site. I know that you hate women , especially the ones who are non compliant ( as they can spot a dunce bat like you at ten paces), but until we can all get pregnant in our bowels and give birth through our anus AND the female sex class isn't othered because of it, you can shut the fuck up. Imagine a gay man telling women how intense they should or shouldn't be because of male fuckery. I bet you die a little every day because you are a gay man who just won't be able to exercise your sex class's full smorgasbord of woman( real) hatred, because you aren't straight. Best you can do is moan on Datalounge a site FULL of straight men.

by Anonymousreply 81February 6, 2019 4:50 AM

R81 says "Imagine a gay man telling women how intense they should or shouldn't be because of male fuckery."

She must be new here LOL.

Gay men on the DL have accused lesbians of been hysterical (lesbian drama), relationship crazy (U-haul jokes, etc.) generally crazy (Rosie, Anne H, Ellen D, etc.), overweight (stereotype much?,etc.) & even being a phase (that "straight" women can become one when necessary) among others.

Also while as a young gayling, I supported marriage equality in the 80s but in the DL's historical view "marriage equality" wasn't a "thing" in our civil rights movement until the early 90s when the phrase civil union was coined to give us some of the same rights as heteros had. Most of our "brothers" at the time simply wanted to fuck as many guys as possible & find an AIDS cure to keep doing so. Marriage equality was seen more of a lesbian issue than a gay man's issue.

by Anonymousreply 82February 6, 2019 6:47 AM

Trump hasn’t banned trans from serving.

The new rules are:

Trans have to be transitioned and living stably as their “gender” for three years before enlisting. Trans have to serve as their sex, not their “gender”.

This keeps active military from becoming a free-for-all welfare program for trans where they get a paycheck for sitting on their asses recovering from surgery. Almost any other serious surgery for a servicemember results in a medical discharge. Why should trans get special treatment? It keep trans from going nuts on active service when cross-sex hormones hit them like a ton of bricks. This ensures that trans men and trans women are properly evaluated in basic with the hormones they’ve been on for a while, instead of the hormones they’re planning to take once they get their taxpayer-funded meal ticket. This protects female servicemembers who have enough to worry about from penis-havers without the penis-havers sleeping in the next bunk.

Since this hurts the trans’ precious feelings, the media have been misreporting this as a “ban” when what it really does is revoke the outrageous special treatment trans demand and Dems want to hand to them on a silver platter. Nothing hurts unit cohesion more than unearned special treatment. Servicemembers serve at the U.S. military’s leisure. There is no right to serve. Every measure to expand the service has been a political decision (usually the right one), but the “constitutional” challenges to Trump’s non-ban are laughable.

by Anonymousreply 83February 6, 2019 7:12 AM

interesting, R83. The media has lied about it.

by Anonymousreply 84February 9, 2019 2:30 PM

The amount of money Trans medical care would require in the military equals two Trump trips to Mar-A-Lago.

So, you fine with Trump trips that showcase his own profit-making property but not giving healthcare to troops?

by Anonymousreply 85February 9, 2019 2:36 PM

Gillibrand is dead to me.

by Anonymousreply 86February 9, 2019 2:48 PM

Yes, R85. Because Washington Political Math has proved so reliable. Trump’s Wall, for example?

This is not about *treating* people. This is only about one thing: military readiness. Who can be deployed into combat situations for prolonged conditions. Military readiness requires that you have no underlying medical condition requiring ongoing medical treatment - which includes access to ongoing medical care and prescription medication. These tours of duty in combat environments are harsh environments, remote locations and a minimum of six months to two years at a time on a rotation.

Facilities are hard core brutal. Cots are a luxury. Pit latrines, and wash your ass with water in your helmet. There’s no privacy. It may be you and your squad for months on end. You might see your self as male, but how will the camel fuckers who capture you see you? Take one guess at what happens to anyone with a vagina they capture.

by Anonymousreply 87February 9, 2019 3:20 PM

Fuck yeah r87. True.

by Anonymousreply 88February 9, 2019 3:42 PM

Wow so I came for sissy hypno porn being the reasons trans exists but instead got camel fuckers which I was not ready for.

So much hate for people who are different from people who were hated for being different.

by Anonymousreply 89February 9, 2019 6:39 PM

That looks like a butch woman.

by Anonymousreply 90February 9, 2019 6:47 PM

She does not look...like a man.

by Anonymousreply 91February 9, 2019 8:29 PM

This is the Army, not the Navy, but somebody is addressing the fitness issues.

About one-third of soldiers who enter the service leave before their third year due to injuries, according to Frost, which the Army attributes to insufficient fitness training during boot camp.

“The goal is about a having a more combat-ready army," he said.

The new test does not adjust scores for age or gender, unlike the current test. It also adds exercises including dead lifts, sprints with 40-pound weights, power throws and a 2-mile run, among other new tasks.

“Many folks find it easy to do the maximum standard for the current test,” Frost told the AP. “𝑻𝒉𝒊𝒔 𝒏𝒆𝒘 𝒕𝒆𝒔𝒕 𝒊𝒔 𝒈𝒆𝒏𝒅𝒆𝒓 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒂𝒈𝒆 𝒏𝒆𝒖𝒕𝒓𝒂𝒍. I cannot max this test.”

The AP reported on Wednesday that the new test will affect every soldier who attends basic training, including those not traditionally in combat roles.

“It breaks the mindset of 'I am an intel soldier,'” one military intelligence specialist told the news service. “It changes it to ‘I am a soldier,’ because bullets on the battlefield don’t discriminate.”

by Anonymousreply 92February 9, 2019 9:18 PM
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