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—Official— Project Runway Bravo Reboot thread

Didn’t wanna derail the All Stars 7 thread. Now that the promo and designers are out, let’s discuss.

by Anonymousreply 60004/01/2019

Project Runway - White males need not apply.

by Anonymousreply 102/03/2019

Ugh. “...inclusion of plus-size models”

by Anonymousreply 202/03/2019

The Colombian dude is cute. As is Garo. Of course the girl from Nashville is wearing that hat like she’s going to Coachella 2012.

by Anonymousreply 302/03/2019

Is the hot makeup daddy returning?

by Anonymousreply 402/10/2019

Not a reboot.

God, I wish people would learn what "reboot" actually means.

by Anonymousreply 502/10/2019

I liked the plus sized models. It really separates the men from the boys, especially if they want to work in today’s market.

Even Rihanna isn’t a size 4.

by Anonymousreply 602/10/2019

If it looks like a reboot and sounds like a reboot...

by Anonymousreply 702/10/2019

Nina got a promotion

by Anonymousreply 802/10/2019

Nina Garcia is having a prophylactic double mastectomy (she has the BRCA gene.)

by Anonymousreply 902/10/2019


by Anonymousreply 1003/09/2019

Hopefully this means a gay guy will finally win now that the show is no longer on frau central Lifetime.

by Anonymousreply 1103/09/2019

is there any update on Chris March/season 4 health?

by Anonymousreply 1203/10/2019

No Tim = no go.

by Anonymousreply 1303/10/2019

[quote] Hopefully this means a gay guy will finally win now that the show is no longer on frau central Lifetime.

It's true, PR was on Lifetime for 9 seasons and a man only won three times, seasons 10, 13 and 16. Women were twice as likely to win on Lifetime.

by Anonymousreply 1403/10/2019

Not if you count the All Stars seasons, men won almost all of them. But people try to ignore that fact when they go on their silly conspiracy theory.

Guys only won 8 seasons on Lifetime, it's a conspiracy!!!!!!

It's such a made up complaint, there are plenty of real things to bitch about with runway.

by Anonymousreply 1503/10/2019

Another ugh for plus sized models. It skews the judging.

by Anonymousreply 1603/10/2019

I'm watching a rerun of the Christian Sirano-Jillian-Chris March-Rami season right now on Bravo, complete with Kors. It really was a lot more focussed back then. Tim spent more time critiquing the designs and offering suggestions.

by Anonymousreply 1703/10/2019

Karlie Kloss is gross. She looks like a monster.

by Anonymousreply 1803/10/2019

R12 As of last July he was in a medical facility in N. Cal. undergoing rehab. He’s been hospitalized for months and has tons of medical bills. Sounds like he had a stroke? (right arm and both legs paralyzed) and kidney failure which may or may not be resolved.

by Anonymousreply 1903/10/2019

Christian's season was my favorite. So fun and a very talented group on the whole. Loved all the finalists.

by Anonymousreply 2003/10/2019

Poor Chris March! Paralyzed and still recovering. Too bad some of his rich friends or clients don’t step up and pay the 100k to reach his GoFundMe goal. To think someone paid R. Kelly’s 160k child support that was in arrears makes me sick and shows how screwed up the world is.

by Anonymousreply 2103/11/2019

It looks like that apart from Real World challenges they are doing away with models of different sizes, which is a shame, because that really separated the men from the boys, so to speak. And if you are a Christian Siriano or a Michael Costello who can created fashion for a Heidi Klum AND a Queen Latifah you will have a better chance at a real business.

But there are trans models, so progress?

by Anonymousreply 2203/13/2019

r22 That's really disappointing re: different-sized models. Not a good first impression.

Can't wait for this to start as I've skipped the last All Stars altogether. Milano and Chapman together is just too much for me. When does that new show with Heidi and Tim premiere?

by Anonymousreply 2303/13/2019

In a few days.

by Anonymousreply 2403/13/2019

Of course a designer should be able to create fashion for all sizes, but in a runway competition, the models should all have similar frames so as to not skew the judging of the design, imo...

by Anonymousreply 2503/13/2019

Funnily, during the regular shows of the last real season the designers who got the thinnest models didn’t necessarily make better outfits or make their models look better week by week than the designers who drew the regular sized or plus sized ones.

I hope the trans model thing is for a gender non-conforming week and not a regular thing.

by Anonymousreply 2603/13/2019

But when they have such a short time to design, fit, and sew a garment, throwing different size models into the mix is just easy way to screw with the contestants. Then the judges get to complain about the fit of the crotch or whatever.

I wonder how the new season will address the inherent schizophrenia of the show: win weekly competitions with cutting edge designs vs very commercial sponsors looking for mall clothes.

by Anonymousreply 2703/14/2019

People are counting down to the premiere on Twitter. Seems like they're really excited for this. Though I doubt anyone among them is excited about Karlie Kloss and her Trump connection.

by Anonymousreply 2803/14/2019

This starts in ten minutes, right?

by Anonymousreply 2903/14/2019

I agree r25. The models of different sizes is a weird thing in this type of competition setting. I am glad the reboot isn't carrying it over.

by Anonymousreply 3003/14/2019

Show me one designer who was in the bottom because [italic]and only because[/italic] their design wasn't flattering to the plus-size model. Never happened; they always took other aspects into consideration so as not to be unfair.

by Anonymousreply 3103/14/2019

R31 types plus sized...

by Anonymousreply 3203/14/2019

Showing the Season 5 finale, oh Korto. She came in 2nd place three damn times.

by Anonymousreply 3303/14/2019

r32 I'm a thin homo but I hate how this show pretends these people will design for runways only and not for actual fraus, who are more likely than not plus-sized.

by Anonymousreply 3403/14/2019

Not feeling Maxwell and his stupid oversized glasses already.

by Anonymousreply 3503/14/2019

Not digging Karlie in the first five minutes.

by Anonymousreply 3603/14/2019

"Christian Siriano is your mentor for this season" - Whut? So he's here for one season only? Is he hedging his bets in case the first season bombs?

by Anonymousreply 3703/14/2019

I need TG.

by Anonymousreply 3803/14/2019

Karlie's voice is fake and annoying. It's a fake freak how.

by Anonymousreply 3903/14/2019

r39 So fucking fake. Where did she buy that accent?!

by Anonymousreply 4003/14/2019

Christian is so natural at this; must be the confidence from his business spilling over.

That Indian designer is balding and has a tragic combover, but other than that is the cutest thing ever.

by Anonymousreply 4103/14/2019

Korto was my favorite for that season. No one mentioned the necklaces she made, they were fabulous.

How many designers are there??? It's a cast of thousands.

by Anonymousreply 4203/14/2019

Oh, here we go with the religious exemptions... Does that bitch know the guys are mostly all homos? No problem with that?

by Anonymousreply 4303/14/2019

Are you straight? *busts out laughing*

At least it led to that exchange.

Giving them two days for the challenge I see.

by Anonymousreply 4403/14/2019

Is Swatch still...

by Anonymousreply 4503/14/2019

"250 is not enough money"

"I've never had this much money to spend on one garment!"

Some producer was very happy with those two interviews.

by Anonymousreply 4603/14/2019

Mixed dorm rooms? I can't stand wearing pajamas so that would never work for me.

by Anonymousreply 4703/14/2019

The new workroom has such pleasant, natural lighting.

Hester might be getting the loser or the winner edit, I'm not sure yet.

by Anonymousreply 4803/14/2019

[quote]The new workroom has such pleasant, natural lighting.

Yeah I do love the new work room.

by Anonymousreply 4903/14/2019

Can't wait to hear Christian's feedback.

by Anonymousreply 5003/14/2019

What was that comment with the subtitles?

by Anonymousreply 5103/14/2019

r51 She joked, "It's a competition now, better take your hands off me."

by Anonymousreply 5203/14/2019

I will never get used to seeing ads for friggin' [italic]bipolar disorder[/italic] medication on your TV.

by Anonymousreply 5303/14/2019

Kapoor is so goofy and handsome, I'm smitten.

Christian's comments are so on point, omg.

by Anonymousreply 5403/14/2019

I miss Tim. Christian may be talented but at this game he's a lightweight. His critiques were wan.

Karlie is a genetic freak.

The squealy Indian guy is getting on my nerves.

Frankie needs to leave. Ditto the goofball white girl.

by Anonymousreply 5503/14/2019

First emotional breakdown of the season!

Kapoor's backstory was heartbreaking. Just keep on being joyous, dear.

by Anonymousreply 5603/14/2019

“Maybelline makeup studio.” Lol.

by Anonymousreply 5703/14/2019

r55 But didn't Christian tell that one contestant how she could salvage her design?

by Anonymousreply 5803/14/2019

The voices are so annoying and affected.

by Anonymousreply 5903/14/2019

Cavanagh is a goner, isn't she?

by Anonymousreply 6003/14/2019

The trans model is creepy looking. Yeah, I said it.

by Anonymousreply 6103/14/2019

Plus size meltdown girl is going home.

by Anonymousreply 6203/14/2019

Only a few contestants are getting focus this ep. Indian guy (kavid?), Cavanaugh, and Frankie.

Winner and bottom two?

by Anonymousreply 6303/14/2019

Sorry but does the trans model still have twig and berries? Does the designer have enough fabric to cover or tuck that?

by Anonymousreply 6403/14/2019

Kavanagh is the newest villain; she'll be around for a while.

by Anonymousreply 6503/14/2019

Plus size meltdown girl doesn’t even have a van to live in down by the river. She can’t go home cuz she ain’t got one!

by Anonymousreply 6603/14/2019

Chritian may be a wonderful designer but he is no Tim Gunn. Tim is the perfect mentor. I don't know WTF Christian is doing. He should've stuck with being a judge.

by Anonymousreply 6703/14/2019

I hate the clown girl

by Anonymousreply 6803/14/2019

Yeah, being emotionally supportive doesn't come naturally to Christian like it does to Tim. His attempts to comfort Frankie were fairly business like and didn't have much warmth r67. Not hating on him, I'd be the same way, but it is a big change from what we are used to with Gunn.

by Anonymousreply 6903/14/2019

That was a metric fucktonne of train right there.

by Anonymousreply 7003/14/2019

Fuck these people for trying to ram fat models down our throats. Ditto for the creepy trans.

by Anonymousreply 7103/14/2019

Who just said "that's the going home look right there" to her neighbor? Was it cavanaugh?

by Anonymousreply 7203/14/2019

Or did I mishear that?

by Anonymousreply 7303/14/2019

r72 What? Someone actually said that?!

by Anonymousreply 7403/14/2019

I thought I heard it, but now I'm not sure. It was when the bathing suit went down the runway.

by Anonymousreply 7503/14/2019

YAS to the rest of the designers watching the critiques on TV!

by Anonymousreply 7603/14/2019

Someone said that to Cavanaugh r72. Not sure who.

by Anonymousreply 7703/14/2019

R46 that made me laugh. The girl was so happy to have $250!

by Anonymousreply 7803/14/2019

Christian doesn't have a lot of presence. Tim is tall, with a deep, concerned voice.

by Anonymousreply 7903/14/2019

R72, I was listening pretty closely and didn't hear that comment but maybe I just missed it.

by Anonymousreply 8003/14/2019

“She looked strong and confident on the runway and that’s all that matters”

Really? So the outfit can look like shit but that doesn’t matter if the model is a good actress?

I’m not impressed by this male designer judge.

by Anonymousreply 8103/14/2019

That was the most vicious "however" from Nina in the history of this show.

by Anonymousreply 8203/14/2019

Oh Jesus send this Frankie home STAT.

by Anonymousreply 8303/14/2019

I heard the "going home look" comment. It was probably spliced in from a confessional.

by Anonymousreply 8403/14/2019

Look at the schmattes this Brandon Maxwell's slinging at Neiman's.

by Anonymousreply 8503/14/2019

I adore Renee's look.

by Anonymousreply 8603/14/2019

Brandon Maxwell is trying to be Michael Kors.

by Anonymousreply 8703/14/2019

Ugh, I have the sneaking suspicion Frankie will live to see another seam ripper.

by Anonymousreply 8803/14/2019

It would be great if both Cav and Frankie were sent home. Cull the herd!

by Anonymousreply 8903/14/2019

Frankie was a loser, period. The initial design was a lousy concept, never mind her unexpectedly Gargantuan model.

by Anonymousreply 9003/14/2019

Frankie’s model hates her LOL

by Anonymousreply 9103/14/2019

R85, $1700 for a pink wrap top, polyester and nylon.

by Anonymousreply 9203/14/2019

But they’ll keep her because social justice...

by Anonymousreply 9303/14/2019

Tessa, youre kidding

by Anonymousreply 9403/14/2019

Agreed, R87. There's only one problem, this one has not a scintilla of wit or a sense of humor.

by Anonymousreply 9503/14/2019

Nina loves them straps so of course Tessa won.

by Anonymousreply 9603/14/2019

I didn't like cavanaugh at all but Frankie really should've lost. Her outfit was shit

by Anonymousreply 9703/14/2019

Eh Frankie should have gone. That was really tasteless, and to me that crosses a line that beats bland every time.

by Anonymousreply 9803/14/2019

So we're going down the pc path, eh? Should make for a boring season.

by Anonymousreply 9903/14/2019

One vocal fry down.

by Anonymousreply 10003/14/2019

But, but, justice

by Anonymousreply 10103/14/2019

So that weird Asian half-bow is the new Auf?

by Anonymousreply 10203/14/2019

R99 I don’t know if you’re referring to the race of the women (dipshit if you are), but even though I disagree with who was auf’ed, they always eliminate the bland look over the messy look.

by Anonymousreply 10303/14/2019

[quote] they always eliminate the bland look over the messy look.

Exactly. The look was nothing, it had no design to it. That is automatically the look they want to eliminate.

by Anonymousreply 10403/14/2019

Renee was robbed. Her look was gorgeous & was definitely a hark back to the photo inspiration. Not to mention she was styled impeccably.

by Anonymousreply 10503/14/2019

r105 I'm thinking it was too expensive to produce.

by Anonymousreply 10603/14/2019

Whrn the guy told Brandon Maxwell that he was inspired by the balloons in the background in the picture of Brandon’s mother, I laughed

by Anonymousreply 10703/14/2019

Frankie stayed because she cried, period. Won’t somebody think of the stone cold bitches?

by Anonymousreply 10803/14/2019

I miss Tim! When is his new show coming out?

by Anonymousreply 10903/14/2019

I think the PC comments refer to the “curvy” models and the creepy “trans woman” (who made a whole little inspiring speech to the Indian guy who squealed with delight throughout.) Because we’re all supposed to loooove fat (oops, I mean CURVY) women and trannies.

by Anonymousreply 11003/14/2019

Is Renee the Muslim woman? I liked her look, the winning look(Tessa?), the guy from Brazil’s look and the guy with the rhyming name’s look(Gary something?)

by Anonymousreply 11103/14/2019

Sorry, the guy from Columbia, Jhoan, and Garo Sparo...^^^

by Anonymousreply 11203/14/2019

I didn't mind it, but the shrieking Indian guy can go next.

by Anonymousreply 11303/14/2019

"Don't worry that's going home right there" is what Nadine said to Cavanagh about Frankie's outfit.

Rude AND wrong

by Anonymousreply 11403/14/2019

Brandon Maxwell seems like the gayest guy in high school...."winner winner chicken dinner "? Really ?..Ugh.

by Anonymousreply 11503/14/2019

R114, it was the worst outfit seen in many years.

by Anonymousreply 11603/14/2019

The Bravo reboot is nothing. They should have left it for dead at Lifetime.

by Anonymousreply 11703/14/2019

The "Woke" version.

by Anonymousreply 11803/14/2019

These clothes are hideous.

And who is the deplorable in here and why are you watching this show? Go watch duck dynasty with it all.

by Anonymousreply 11903/14/2019

I had to laugh at how easy Cavanagh made it for the producers to give her that edit. She just kept playing right into their hands with every comment up until her last line. I hope the designers were just off their game in the first episode because the average look seemed substandard.

by Anonymousreply 12003/14/2019

Yeah, the show itself looks better, with a bigger budget and production values, but the clothes were almost uniformly awful.

by Anonymousreply 12103/15/2019

Is it all filmed in Brooklyn?

by Anonymousreply 12203/15/2019

I think it has been for years, except for the obligatory Mood visits.

New, brighter sets, longer sew time but not much improvement otherwise. Brandon Maxwell tries to be Kors and he was off putting for some reason, the other woman (editor of Teen Vogue) was better but twice said she'd wear someone's garment. Karlie Kloss speaks too fast. That was one thing about Heidi, she speaks slowly and with emphasis when talking to the designers. Sirano seems on par with the other non-Tim-Gunn mentors. First episode so this could all shake out as it continues but I was expecting more of a shake up.

by Anonymousreply 12303/15/2019

I really loved this new version of PR.

And I disagree about the quality of the designs. I thought that many of them were outstanding.

I think that Renee was absolutely robbed. Tessa's dress with the hanging straps from the back, was just alright. It was nothing special

Frankie most definitely should have gone home instead of Kavenaugh. This is exactly the kind of bullshit which has made the show lose credibility over the years. Anyone with eyes could have seen that Frankie's horrible blue monstrosity deserved to go home, regardless of whether or not Kavenaugh was uptight and bitchy. Her garment was still better than Frankie's.

I thought that the Indian guy Kovid was sweet. He and his boyfriend are cute, and it was nice that he has the trans model. It's a perfect pairing.

However, as far as hotness, I think that Garo and Sebastian (the housekeeper) are the hottest guys. I actually have quite a crush on Sebastian.

by Anonymousreply 12403/15/2019

[quote]Her garment was still better than Frankie's.

Her outfit was better made, but it literally had no point of a view, it was as generic as generic gets. Cavanaugh recognized that herself, when the person tells her Frankie's outfit is the one going home she replies "At least she tried to do something"

by Anonymousreply 12503/15/2019

How did Karlie Kushner get this job? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

by Anonymousreply 12603/15/2019

Her name is Karlie Kushner-Trump, R126.

Get it straight.

by Anonymousreply 12703/15/2019

I live in Nashville & we have a local noon show on one of the channels.

Cavanaugh was one of the guests yesterday. She came off so entitled & imperious. She was name dropping all the famous women she's dressed for the red carpets.

It was an immediate dislike for me. Seeing her Auf's last night was a delight.

by Anonymousreply 12803/15/2019

R125 That was an insightful comment on her part which makes me wonder if she was deliberately trying to play it safe for the first few episodes and totally misjudged it. If she had picked another colour she might have managed to go under the judge's radar this week.

by Anonymousreply 12903/15/2019

However sloppily it was made, I still found Frankie's strips more intriguing than Cavanaugh's nothing of a design. There was a freshness to it. Also, we're rid of the witch in the first episode already. I really don't need someone like her ruining the entire season, talent or no talent.

Like r124, I find the Colombian guy and Garo insanely attractive, thought I still can't quite tell them apart. Oh, to be caught in that sandwich, with Kapur giggling and cheering us on in the corner...

by Anonymousreply 13003/15/2019

[quote] I find the Colombian guy and Garo insanely attractive, thought I still can't quite tell them apart.

"The Colombian guy" is named Sebastian. Sebastian Grey, oddly.

I have a feeling that most of these peoples' names are made up. Sebastian Grey, Garo Sparo, Hester Sunshine. Yeah, right.

by Anonymousreply 13103/15/2019

She's married to Josh Kushner, R 127. Get it straight.

by Anonymousreply 13203/15/2019

Karlie explained to Andy Cohen that even though Frankie’s outfit was a mess, it expressed a POV and creativity which is why she stayed and the blonde was sent home.

Karlie may have connections but she’s also a top fashion model with ten years of experience. So she isn’t just a nepotism hire. At least they didn’t hire a Kardashian to host the show.

Christian knows that “there’s no crying in fashion” which is why he doesn’t dry any tears. I appreciate his “Get it together or get out” approach to being a mentor.

by Anonymousreply 13303/15/2019

Tim started hugging the designers because Lifetime loved that sappy shit. But it's just not how real life works. Do [italic]your[/italic] coworkers huddle around you and console you and hug you when you're feeling stressed?

by Anonymousreply 13403/15/2019

I spot a MTF in the bottom row

by Anonymousreply 13503/15/2019


Tim is a very warm person but that's not why he's superior to CS in my opinion. Tim gives actual critique guides them to think about the challenge & a different direction.

CS offered none of that. He's more suited to be a judge than the mentor.

Shit! We would actually see Tim examine the fabric & design. CS just seemed to amble around.

by Anonymousreply 13603/15/2019

The TLo recap. Them doing recaps of Project Runway again takes me back.

by Anonymousreply 13703/15/2019

R108, Frankie stayed because she's FAT.

by Anonymousreply 13803/15/2019

I hated Brandon Maxwell but not as much as the abysmal Karlie Kloss. She talks like a fun teenage girl.

by Anonymousreply 13903/15/2019

R 138, and a black female.

by Anonymousreply 14003/15/2019

That cottage cheese ass in that monstrosity of straps is all the argument needed against plus sized models.. yikes!....can’t be unseen...

by Anonymousreply 14103/15/2019

[quote] Tim is a very warm person but that's not why he's superior to CS in my opinion. Tim gives actual critique guides them to think about the challenge & a different direction. CS offered none of that. He's more suited to be a judge than the mentor.

I agree 100%, R136!

Christian was just wandering around the workroom, looking lost. He was like, "does anyone need help? does anyone need help?" Hello! He should be there OFFERING a critique, and not asking if anyone WANTS one.

The reason Tim was a better mentor is because 1) He's an actual teacher. So he actually talks about technique. 2) He has years and YEARS of experience. And 3) Tim guided them along, and didn't tell them what to do. These are all qualities of a good mentor.

by Anonymousreply 14203/15/2019

Christian should have taken the initiative and gone from one designer to the other in a systematic fashion, that's correct. But it's the first episode so let's cut him some slack. Pedagogical and mentorship skills take time to develop. Also, those critiques can be super annoying when you interrupt someone who's hard at work.

When it comes to Tim... let's be real for a moment. He's not a designer and never has been. He's also a bit long in the tooth to know what's in right now. Yes, he can offer perfectly usable technical critiques that pertain to taste and proportions, but to offer advice that's going to be helpful beyond the challenge at hand, in the fashion business, you need someone who's in the thick of it [italic]right now.[/italic] It's like receiving a lecture about the publishing business from someone who's never actually worked in the publishing trenches. It can be done (been there) but it's just not the optimal thing to offer to people. Why not go that extra mile if you can?

I really fail to grasp how people find Tim a better mentor than a designer currently at the top of his game.

by Anonymousreply 14303/15/2019


What a stupid post. Just because someone's older doesn't mean they aren't up on the latest trends. He is in the fashion business. He could discuss it from a historical perspective as well as what's happening now or what trends are leaning for in the future.

by Anonymousreply 14403/15/2019

I guarantee you every person in that room would rather have Christian there than Tim Gunn. I like Tim, but it's the simple truth. Siriano is who they all are trying to become, those designers want to learn from him.

by Anonymousreply 14503/15/2019

Are you beating up on Christian because he’s openly gay and successful? Because there’s only been one episode and these were his first on-camera moments. Was he nervous? Did they trim his scenes in order to give more air time to the Indian Guy, Frankie, the trans model, etc.?

Tim Gunn, as a trained teacher, is a “mentor” for a living. He has years of experience that Christian doesn’t have.

Oh well, let’s all just hate Christian too, I guess.

by Anonymousreply 14603/15/2019

[quote] Siriano is who they all are trying to become, those designers want to learn from him.

I thought that they were trying to "become" THEMSELVES. Not a Christian Siriano clone.

I thought that design was about expressing YOUR OWN point of view, and not someone else's?

You sound dumb.

[quote] Are you beating up on Christian because he’s openly gay and successful?

You mean by choosing another openly gay and successful man (Tim Gunn) over him?

This has to be one of the most moronic statements I've ever read on Datalonge. And it REEKS of misdirected victimhood.

by Anonymousreply 14703/15/2019

Gunn was more nuanced, but less specific. He made for a good foil to the uppity fashion archetype, and offered calmness in the face of high stakes competition.

Christian is more precise, to the point and less warm and fuzzy. But he still gets the job done and is entitled to put his own spin on the role. But I agree with the comment upthread that his strength is in his expertise on current fashion, and the fact that he is likable.

by Anonymousreply 14803/15/2019

I wonder if they tried to keep just Tim, but he decided to stick with Heide. However much money he wanted would be worth it. She, on the other hand—no great loss.

by Anonymousreply 14903/15/2019

The show is trying to be so diverse. How about having a straight male instead of that abortion Kushner? That would be revolutionary. Imagine that - a straight man amongst a sea of queens.

by Anonymousreply 15003/15/2019

[quote] The show is trying to be so diverse

I'm perplexed by this statement.

"Diverse," as opposed to? Exactly what kind of show would you like to watch? The Hitler Youth designers, who are all blond haired and blue eyed?

by Anonymousreply 15103/15/2019

No, fool. The show is trying to be diverse. That's a fact. But, they got a Heidi " clone" to be the host. If they wanted to be diverse, then they should go all the way.

by Anonymousreply 15203/15/2019

Ivanka rooting on her sis....

by Anonymousreply 15303/16/2019


by Anonymousreply 15403/16/2019


Yes they approached Tim but he refused. He said he & Heidi are a packaged deal. That's why he wouldn't be the mentor for Project Runway All Stars.

by Anonymousreply 15503/16/2019

I appreciate Tim's loyalty to Heidi.

She put him on the map.

by Anonymousreply 15603/16/2019

Someone's already crying in the first episode, give me a break. The rest was rather boring.

The days of "It's a motherfucking walk-off!" and "I don't care if you cry and cut. But you better cry and cut." are sadly gone.

by Anonymousreply 15703/16/2019

Hester is trying way too hard to be a character. Her design aesthetic seems to be "Lisa Frank vomiting in a Hot Topic".

by Anonymousreply 15803/16/2019

Why didn’t they want Heidi?

by Anonymousreply 15903/16/2019

Everybody likes some more complicated mystery, like most things, it was just about money.

Bravo wasn't willing to pay Gunn and Klum's hefty salary, so they went to Amazon who would pay them.

[quote]During a recent conference, Gunn revealed Bravo offered both him and Klum a nearly 60% lower salary for season 17 of Project Runway. So now, Gunn and Klum are developing a new series for Amazon.

by Anonymousreply 16003/16/2019

[quote]Frankie stayed because she's FAT.

[quote]R138, and a black female.

So R140, according to your logic, I guess Tessa only won because she's white? Because a lot of people on this board seemed to feel Renee was robbed. We could all play the race card to rationalize an outcome we disagree with.

by Anonymousreply 16103/16/2019

They should have just paid up. It’s not the same without them. Nina and Cristian are the only OG’s.

It’s still watchable but would have been much better with them.

by Anonymousreply 16203/16/2019

I liked the turban lady with round glasses garment. The rest was meh or less. But I sort of like Brandon Maxwell. "Winner winner chicken dinner!"

by Anonymousreply 16303/16/2019

Must we take sides? I liked Tim and I like Christian. I think the earlier poster was right in that it may take a few episodes for him to feel more comfortable. I miss his sense of humor from his winning season and I'm hoping it will return.

And can I address the elephant in the room? Did nobody want Zac Posen? I miss his creepy Eddie Munster suits.

by Anonymousreply 16403/16/2019

[Quote]And can I address the elephant in the room? Did nobody want Zac Posen?

Does this need to asked?

by Anonymousreply 16503/16/2019

[quote]CS offered none of that. He's more suited to be a judge than the mentor.

Christian has insights but they remain in his brain for himself to actualize; he has no ability (yet?) to get those insights into another person’s brain without speaking in results.

Tim was able to speak to the source of creativity as well as the particular designer’s aesthetic and voice. Christian offers options which, if the game is properly played, is a big no-no.

During, I think Frankie’s critique, he didn’t stop at advising to construct a simpler short due to time constraints, he actually told her to do something specific to the waistband - that’s not his place to say, and it can be argued he gave one contestant an unfair advantage by doing so.

Christian is brilliant at designing and instantly sees what is necessary to ‘make it work’, but his job is to coax the designer to see that for themselves.

Mentoring without puppeteering is its own unique talent that leans on experience, yes, but takes a certain way of seeing not just things, but others and their approach to the task, themselves, and everything outside of themselves.

by Anonymousreply 16603/16/2019

I'm an instant fan of Garo Sparo. His introductory look and his look for the challenge were excellent. ...and he's gorgeous and warmhearted. His real last name is longer and Italian. "Garo Sparo" is his brand. I hope he goes far, for all of the above reasons.

by Anonymousreply 16703/16/2019

Has Tim Gunn had sex yet?

by Anonymousreply 16803/16/2019

I HATED the feather dress, but I love that the guy is an accountant at a bank and this is his big shot at fame

by Anonymousreply 16903/16/2019

Tim was an excellent mentor in earlier seasons, but he became messy and unprofessional towards the end. He often showed up for work with bandages on his face after falling down drunk in his apartment. He also developed creepy romantic attachments to a few male designers, like that Indian guy, who Tim attacked when he showed no interest in Tim's flirting. I think Tim fell in love with a few of the men.

by Anonymousreply 17003/16/2019



by Anonymousreply 17103/16/2019

R170 is still going on and on about Swampnil.

Get over it, already!

by Anonymousreply 17203/16/2019

The episode bored me. I saw their designs on the Bravo Instagram before I watched, and almost all of them were really poor. Surprisingly poor designs.

I resent that Bravo hired a Kushner, too. People say that Jared’s brother has nothing to do with him, but the two of them just bought a shitload of apartment buildings together in the DC metro area. Any income received by either goes into the Kushner investment portfolio that funds their criminal empire. All of them are corrupt.

The only thing I will say is that when I look at the Kushner hostess, all I can see is Bjork, which is interesting to me because Bjork is Icelandic but has always looked Asian to me. I looked up the Kushner woman and it turns out she is Scandinavian, too—Danish—and so Bjork seems like less of an anomaly, despite her epicanthic folds.

by Anonymousreply 17303/17/2019

Tim's "mentoring" for the past several seasons on Lifetime has consisted of hugging and talking about feelings. Christian is a nice change from that, in that he came in, talked about clothes, and didn't show up for the judging.

by Anonymousreply 17403/17/2019

Karlie Kloss is married to a Kushner. If you watch this, you are supporting evil. Have fun with that.

by Anonymousreply 17503/17/2019

Were Kushners always evil? I thought Ivanka brought that into their lives.

by Anonymousreply 17603/17/2019

Do you really know nothing about Josh and Jared's father r176? Educate yourself.

by Anonymousreply 17703/17/2019

Nah, I'm not from the US, R177.

by Anonymousreply 17803/17/2019

The wonderful Kushner family.

by Anonymousreply 17903/17/2019

People like to say that Jared’s brother is liberal and is appalled by his participation with Trump and with antisemitism.

Jared’s brother is his business partner, and both of them are leveraging his anti-USA efforts for personal profits. This is their recent billion-dollar cash grab together.

by Anonymousreply 18003/17/2019

This is how the elite in the US operate. Poor brown people go to prison for 10 years to life for marijuana possession or petty theft; these billionaires run scams that actually hurt families, and then maybe go to jail for 18 months after and during which they benefit from ill-gotten profits in the hundreds of millions. 18 months in a resort prison is not a big price to pay for siphoning that much money off the backs of the poor illegally.

Bravo is rewarding the behavior. You can bet your bottom dollar that Andy Cohen and Anderson Cooper are cozy with Kushners.

“Charles Kushner is an American real estate developer. He founded Kushner Companies in 1985. In 2005, he was convicted of illegal campaign contributions, tax evasion, and witness tampering. He served 14 months in federal prison, and resumed his career in real estate after his release.”

by Anonymousreply 18103/17/2019

By always positioning Jared’s brother as disapproving, progressive and a private family man, the media help the Kushner companies by softening public disapproval. Without saying “but his brother resists!!” there’d be a lot more push back against the Kushner companies. This way, the Kushner demons get their cake (all the exploitation of White House business and networks) and eat it too (profits from their private company via “but Joshua is GOOD!” and Karlie Kloss good PR for the family.

by Anonymousreply 18203/17/2019


by Anonymousreply 18303/17/2019

This reminds me of the Eurovision subreddit where people are begging to please focus on the music (it's set in Israel this year). Whether you want to admit it or not, you're financially supporting these people by watching this show. I'll watch the whole season but I'm not kidding myself - I am consciously supporting the Kushner criminal enterprise by doing so. Just like I'm supporting the Saudis and the Ruskies by using an ICE vehicle or anything made of petroleum. We do these trade-offs every single day, we just don't tend to think about them.

Anyway, I hope to see more colour and print from the designers going forward. Any particular reason why nearly everyone went for subdued?

by Anonymousreply 18403/17/2019

Look who is SO EXCITED to see her sister on Bravo!!!

by Anonymousreply 18503/17/2019

Sister in fucking gross! God I hate Ivanka.

Is it really so difficult to find a judge who has some personality? I mean there is Nina and everyone else. I have to fast forward through the cute Indian guy. He is fucking annoying. I agree Renee's outfit was superior and should have won. The black dude who did the feathers is really cute. I liked a lot of the men this first episode. Most of them seem pretty cool.

by Anonymousreply 18603/17/2019

My first impressions: . I wish Christian was the judge instead of Brandon, and I think Nick Verreos would have been a great mentor. But I will give Christian a chance because he's brand new to this, and it's going to take time for him to get comfortable, and to get to know the designers a little bit.

I'm not going to say they shouldn't have any plus sized models or trans models ever, but couldn't they at least get cute ones?

It's very early, but I was deeply underwhelmed by almost all the designs. Where is the imagination, the fantasy?

I found the Indian queen totally annoying and over the top. And I can't stand adults who dress like toddlers. Is she an adult baby? Yuck! . Frankie is also a bit over the top, but I had to laugh at how excited everyone was when she was safe. Nobody gave a fuck about Cavanaugh, lol (understandably, since she gave off major Reublicunt vibes).

Overall... I didn't love it, but I'll keep watching, at least for now.

by Anonymousreply 18703/17/2019

The Indian guy fled persecution in his home country while homosexuality was still criminalized, and is now understandably feeling like he can express himself freely. All of you bitching about him better be grateful you'll never have to go through that. And if you're a straight frau, you ought to be doubly ashamed of yourself.

by Anonymousreply 18803/17/2019

I’ll be live tweeing all season!!!

by Anonymousreply 18903/17/2019

KKK’s face looks like someone took Taylor Swift’s face, put it in a Cuisinart, and then smooshed it in a vice. I just can’t look at her, and her voice is no better.

I liked Renee’s design. Hester Kookypants is going to get really annoying really fast. Siriano was fine. The new set and workroom were an improvement. It may be a case of general reality competition show burnout.

by Anonymousreply 19003/17/2019

Just finished it.

Frankie's was hideous. Easily the worst of the night. Michael Kors wouldn't have given a fuck about her stupid tears and would've ripped her a new one for having absolutely no taste.

TBH, this would have been a great episode for a surprise double elimination. All that drama, then BAM. Both the crying mess and the bitch that played it safe get sent packing. Welcome to Project Runway.

by Anonymousreply 19103/17/2019

Frankie should have gone home. Not only was her look badly constructed, but she looked at a photo of a blue bathing suit and was inspired to create... a blue bathing suit. Where was the creativity?

by Anonymousreply 19203/18/2019

Cool of Karlie to do her part and fill the Kushner coffers so that Jared, Josh and their criminal dad would have more money to invest in more slum apartments to keep that cash flowing in.

Normally a pretty face is just a pretty face, but Karlie Kloss Kushner is helping to make a real difference in the world!

by Anonymousreply 19303/18/2019

Frankie’s outfit was by far the worse. Holy hell, who told her that was a good outfit??? Plus all the people who were helping her at the end??? Bullshit.

How the fuck do the designers not know he dimensions of their models??? The two at the bottom both made mistakes because the models were bigger. Don’t they get their sizes when they see who their model will be?

I hated that Kava-nope woman the minute she said she had never designed for a “larger” woman. And deservedly lost because of it.

That Frankie reminded me of that other stupid bitch. Silky whatever from RPDR.

by Anonymousreply 19403/18/2019

Project Runway has lost its brutality/honesty in favor of social justice. It has been Lifetime-ized...

by Anonymousreply 19503/18/2019

Renee Hill was the winner. And, what's this about 9 (NINE) kids????

by Anonymousreply 19603/18/2019


by Anonymousreply 19703/18/2019

Renee's look really set the bar high. It was a stunning look & beautifully styled.

She was miles ahead of everyone else.

by Anonymousreply 19803/18/2019

And so modest.

by Anonymousreply 19903/18/2019

Exquisite but I can't get behind her breeding like it's the 50's. Didn't Laura Bennett have around that many kids as well? I find myself judging women for that and I don't feel sorry doing it.

by Anonymousreply 20003/18/2019

It's a blended family but it's still a lot of kids. Her marriage recently went kaput too.

by Anonymousreply 20103/18/2019

It really should have been a double elimination, Frankie and that blond, bland, white cunt both needed to go. And yes, Renee really should have been the winner.

by Anonymousreply 20203/18/2019


You sound like an idiot. IDGAF how many kids she has. I'm just judging her clothes.

by Anonymousreply 20303/18/2019

This is DL, dear. We judge the whole package here.

by Anonymousreply 20403/18/2019

[quote]Didn't Laura Bennett have around that many kids as well?

Laura Bennett has 6. She was already a Mom of 5, and she found out she was pregnant again while filming Project Runway.

by Anonymousreply 20503/18/2019

Here's the full episode for anyone who didn't get to watch it.

by Anonymousreply 20603/18/2019

Renee Hill reminds me of the contestant Kara Saun who was a contestant on the very first season of PR.

by Anonymousreply 20703/18/2019

I totally thought they were setting up the villain for the season... especially since she could construct her garment well, despite it being dull. And EVERY quote out of her was so bitchy.

Frankie's bathing suit was a mess. They also said she picked an inappropriate fabric, right from the get go. Another contestant said she wasn't on the same level as the rest of the others, foreshadowing her going home (so I thought). I was surprised she stayed.

I actually liked the "goddess" dress that the trans had on, but that one was just safe. It'll be interesting to see what else he does. They focused on him a lot so perhaps he'll be around for a while.

by Anonymousreply 20803/18/2019

R208 In a normal season I think she would have been kept on as villian but I suspect that they would have felt that keeping a villian contestant over someone they gave a sympathy edit to would have been too much of a risk in the first episode of their revamped season. For us jaded old Project Runway viewers we know how this show works but newer viewers might have been made upset by the villian edit person making it through.

I felt Cavanagh was a goner as soon I saw that they included the sad story about her dad because at that point it seemed like the producers were milking her for all she's worth right before they let her go.

by Anonymousreply 20903/18/2019

Now, here's my question: When a contestant is eliminated must they leave the living arrangements and return home?

by Anonymousreply 21003/18/2019

So I didn't actually watch this for ages - the whole time it was on Lifetime. Drag Race had enough of the PR element in it to keep me happy too I guess. I didn't see the changes, but Tom and Lorenzo wrote a long thing about it that seems to go in line with the comments here.

Btw, the fact she was named Cavanagh was pretty funny. How can you be such a cunt like that on these shows and not realize people are going to hate you? The last time I remember a "snobby" sort of contestant - it was the one who said "upholstery fabric? Oh my. I only use higher quality fabrics..." and it was just his silly persona of being very special... but not a total bitch. Most people seemed to like him, and I thought he was entertaining (malan breton). This girl was just pure bitch. The only reason to cast her was to either let them have a villain or to kick her off.

by Anonymousreply 21103/18/2019

Regarding the Kushners. They are such materialistic douchebags that for them conservative and liberal are just business markets and business opportunities they use to make money off. These people don't believe in any kind of moral values. They believe in making money no matter what. They work different demographics to make more money for their company (or combined portofolio) instead of competing against each other fighting over "market share" by working the same group of customers / business people.

Regarding the BRAVO reboot of Project Runway. So far I just don't like it. Heidi had charm and was fun. Karlie is just fake. CS has no screen presence. There is no real authority or confidence in his mannerism. He's just around like some extra who is just walking into the set by accident and comes up with timid dialogue on the fly. However I do like the diverse casting and at first I like Karlie appreciating being on the show, but as soon it was obvious that she's completely over her head it became uncomfortable to watch her and, according to the preview, she's not around for long since she wasn't in any of the scenes of the "this season on PR" preview. Kapor is a bit much, or extra, but he does have a compelling backstory. I am a bit shocked that the show got rid of Cavenaugh right away. She was such a character you would love to hate. They should've put Frankie out of her misery who is clearly out of her element.

by Anonymousreply 21203/18/2019

{quote] at first I like Karlie appreciating being on the show,

I am sorry, I meant Frankie.

by Anonymousreply 21303/18/2019

Does anyone watch Project Runway All Stars? I am still flabbergasted by how much they fucked up the recent challenge.

They're down to the final 5 and they have all won in previous seasons so these should not be idiots.

They were tasked with making a high end gown fit for a "royal ball?. They were given a larger than average dollar about for Mood.

Holy Shit! Every single one of them should've gone home.

by Anonymousreply 21403/18/2019

R210 On reality competition shows the eliminated get moved out right away and usually they go to a different hotel or different section of the hotel for up to two weeks or sometimes until shooting is over. The footage I've seen of eliminated areas are hilarious because they all look so dejected. Producers do this to make it unclear what order people were eliminated in and so they can easily call back eliminated contestants for episodes or for those challenges where they get a chance to compete again. Since rules limit the amount of exposure contestants have to the outside world it's like being in limbo. On some competitions eliminated contestants are allowed to use that time to study but on Project Runway the rule used to be that you couldn't have any fashion related learning materials. I don't know if they have changed that rule.

There was an old episode of Project Runway that made me think they also make their eliminated contestants stay but I don't have any direct backstage knowledge of Project Runway. I just know how other reality shows work.

R214 Here is a thread about All stars I haven't watched that season yet but your comment makes me want to.

by Anonymousreply 21503/18/2019

I read somewhere that the eliminated designers are kept in the same hotel/apt space but totally isolated from the ones still in competition. They are sent on sightseeing tours so they're not just staring at the walls. Sometimes they're brought back as helpers for a challenge or to replace someone that had to drop out. Filming the entire show lasts for a month I think.

by Anonymousreply 21603/19/2019

On "Top Chef" the eliminated are kept around, and if there is a challenge where they are cooking for the public all of them come out and cook, too, so that people can't say later, "I went to this event and the six left were..."

by Anonymousreply 21703/19/2019

[quote] Now, here's my question: When a contestant is eliminated must they leave the living arrangements and return home?

No, they are kept around and a couple of them return sometimes to help out in one of the final challenges.

by Anonymousreply 21803/19/2019

Her in-laws sound nice.

by Anonymousreply 21903/19/2019

R219, that article actually made me like Kloss.

by Anonymousreply 22003/19/2019

I’m actually looking forward to this next episode after not being able to get into it for a while. I think it helps that I watched it from the first episode this time. Now I’m invested.

by Anonymousreply 22103/19/2019

The eliminated contestants are usually sequestered until the show finishes taping. That way there can be no spoilers from people spotting them back in their hometowns. Project runway is taped and not live.... so they don't want to give away he gets kicked out and in what order.

by Anonymousreply 22203/19/2019

When the opening looks came out (the ones they made at home), there was some that I really liked but I can't seem to find pics of them anywhere.

by Anonymousreply 22303/19/2019

I guess their idea of a reboot was to be really cringey and try hard with the #Woke shit.

Half the episode was basically a penis measuring contest of who was the most victimized in their life. I want to root for someone because they have talent, not because they have the worst sob story.

The Lifetime season is better.

by Anonymousreply 22403/19/2019

When can we expect to see the designers make gowns for the Countess LuAnn's next cabaret? How about a SkinnyGirl tie -in? New server outfits for Vanderpump? Gowns for the Giudice girls?

by Anonymousreply 22503/20/2019

New episode tonight.

It looks interesting, like a hybrid of SyFy's Face Off meets Project Runway.

I love futuristic shit.

by Anonymousreply 22603/21/2019

Haven't seen the preview but that sounds exciting, r226. It's a shame it overlaps with Drag Race and Star Trek: Discovery as well. Priorities...

by Anonymousreply 22703/21/2019

Watching last weeks runway now, and the top three, to me, were Renee, Garo Sparo, and Sebastian...

by Anonymousreply 22803/21/2019

Project Runway comes on at 8pm r227, Drag Race at 9pm.

by Anonymousreply 22903/21/2019

I distinctly recall a slight overlap towards the end because I had to juggle between the two last week.

by Anonymousreply 23003/21/2019

Renee's "turbans" are awesome. What's the exact term for them, again?

by Anonymousreply 23103/21/2019

So Huck looks nice...

by Anonymousreply 23203/21/2019

Should Christian be questioning their fabric choice at Mood? Did Tim do that? I've only watched a few seasons of PR, so I'm not sure how involved the mentor was in the fabric shopping.

He asked Hester like four times about her blue tulle. Seemed weird.

by Anonymousreply 23303/21/2019

What’s up with Christian’s hair? I don’t like him as a mentor. He should’ve been the designer judge.

by Anonymousreply 23403/21/2019

Simon Huck? The last time I saw him on TV, he was a junior PR flunkie chasing around behind Kardashian. Who is funding his new career in fashion?

by Anonymousreply 23503/21/2019

[quote]Should Christian be questioning their fabric choice at Mood?

To me he should. So much of how the final look is going to be rests with the choice of fabric, I swear some designers have lost the challenge at mood. Isn't that part of the job of their mentor?

by Anonymousreply 23603/21/2019

Ugh why is it an hour and a half? Way too long...

by Anonymousreply 23703/21/2019

Hester needs to gooo. But it'll probably be the Samoan guy.

by Anonymousreply 23803/21/2019

The Samoan guy called his wife in the beginning so he's probably a goner.

by Anonymousreply 23903/21/2019

Tessa's voice is a bit shrill but she talks sense.

by Anonymousreply 24003/21/2019

Who is gay?

Indian Guy...who else? The Samoan guy is straight.

Sparo Garo? Sebastian (wears a wedding ring)? The AA guys?

by Anonymousreply 24103/21/2019

The AA guys are hardly featured tonight. They're safe for sure.

by Anonymousreply 24203/21/2019

Is this still Lifetime? Geesh...

by Anonymousreply 24303/21/2019

Yeah, 90 minutes is way too long for an episode that isn't the premiere or the finale. I'm so bored at this point.

by Anonymousreply 24403/21/2019

Afa (the Samoan guy) definitely isn't going home tonight. He might even win this challenge.

by Anonymousreply 24503/21/2019

Chest feathers are gross. All the designs for that group were awful.

by Anonymousreply 24603/21/2019

Agreed r245 his was great. I also liked Bishme's in the back scales team.

The big puffy duvet looking thing was awful.

by Anonymousreply 24703/21/2019

Sebastian seems the best designer, the best constructor and the best looking...

by Anonymousreply 24803/21/2019

"There's no need to cry." - Nina, desperately trying to move away from those Lifetime years.

by Anonymousreply 24903/21/2019

Kovid pulling “a Blair St Claire” by reacting to criticism on the runway by crying and telling a sob story about his awful childhood, LOL

by Anonymousreply 25003/21/2019

There’s no crying in baseball!! Seriously,minhate crying.

by Anonymousreply 25103/21/2019

^ Ugh, I hate crying.

by Anonymousreply 25203/21/2019

I love watching Nina editorialize on the spot.

by Anonymousreply 25303/21/2019

karlie has the perfect model body, yall just dont get it, designers love her

by Anonymousreply 25403/21/2019

Big feet...

by Anonymousreply 25503/21/2019

I missed the beginning but it seems to me that the group that got saddled with the angel wings on their chests were at a big disadvantage because they were so big and came down so low. Designers had to cover up the bottom part or risk a nip slip.

So glad that Frankie didn't get a redemption edit and that she was sent off.

by Anonymousreply 25603/21/2019

Sebastian's was the best by far.

by Anonymousreply 25703/21/2019

I miss Tim Gunn...

by Anonymousreply 25803/21/2019

Hester looks like a young Betty White

by Anonymousreply 25903/21/2019

Hester looks like a grown-up Lollipop Guild member.

by Anonymousreply 26003/21/2019

Betty White is a beauty. This Hester person...should stick with the distracting hats.

by Anonymousreply 26103/21/2019

It’s a horrible show and we need more white guys.

by Anonymousreply 26203/21/2019

Hester reminds me of someone famous or some movie/tv character, but I just can't place it. It was bugging me the whole episode. Still haven't figured it out...

by Anonymousreply 26303/21/2019

R263 Same thing has been bugging me too. Maybe it's Katy Perry from her music video for Chained To The Rhythm?

by Anonymousreply 26403/21/2019

So happy for Sebastian. His design was simply beautiful and he completely deserved the win. Especially since he also had to help Tessa (not to mention put up with her attitude).

Glad Frankie went home and they didn't prolong our agony to have to endure her horrid designs. Lifetime would have kept her on for the "drama," but thankfully these judges are cutting the dead weight quickly.

Hester should be next. She's very annoying.

The out gays so far are only Kovid and Sebastian. Sebastian was asked in episode one if he was straight, and he said "NO!" His boyfriend is lucky, because he's very handsome. I was actually surprised that Afa is straight, because I didn't think that he was.

Simon Huck is damned hot! Thanks for posting the link to his Instagram.

Probably the weakest link in the show for me right now is the judges. I hate Karlie Kushner-Trump, Brandon is trying way too hard, and that Elaine lady seems like a fucking mega bitch. "There's no bossy, only boss lady." Fuck that shit.

Next week's challenge doesn't look nearly as interesting as this week's.

by Anonymousreply 26503/22/2019

Karlie Kloss doesn't even register to me. Does she speak? Christian also, very underwhelming.

I was prepared to like Hester because I like her personal style but with people who put SO much effort into their daily look, it doesn't mean they can translate that into designing for others. She can put together a good quirky look though. Unfortunately her chatter makes her annoying. She and the weepy guy will be voted off next.

by Anonymousreply 26603/22/2019

Needs to go back to being a one hour show.

by Anonymousreply 26703/22/2019

Does anyone know of a link to the episode? I don't have cable. There seems to be nothing on Youtube

by Anonymousreply 26803/22/2019

[quote] Should Christian be questioning their fabric choice at Mood?

[quote] To me he should. So much of how the final look is going to be rests with the choice of fabric, I swear some designers have lost the challenge at mood. Isn't that part of the job of their mentor?

Absolutely NOT! That's cheating. A good part of the judging is fabric choice, and that decision should solely rest with the designer, and NOT the mentor. Tim Gunn would never dream of helping a designer choose their fabric.

The final look absolutely rests with the fabric choice, and many designers have indeed lost because of it - for good reason. It speaks to their taste level and their choices as a designer. The mentor should have absolutely NO SAY in deciding the fabric a designer will use.

by Anonymousreply 26903/22/2019

R268, it seems as though BRAVO is posting the episodes on YouTube.

You may have to wait a day or two before they post it, though.

Here's a link to episode one.

by Anonymousreply 27003/22/2019

Thank you, R270

by Anonymousreply 27103/22/2019

[quote]Does anyone know of a link to the episode? I don't have cable

maybe this works (there are probably pop-ups)

by Anonymousreply 27203/22/2019

Thank you, R272! That works. So what about the pop ups. I'm a beggar and I can't be choosy!


by Anonymousreply 27303/22/2019

This episode made me cry. A lot of it has to do with all of the stresses of this current political environment and all of the hate that is being generated because of it.

I get the shows objective for diversity. At least in my own mind anyway. I cried because Covad, who is Muslim and gay, still believes so much in his religion that he dutifully does his morning prayers. I loved how that was just accepted in the apartment. The same can be said about Renee Hill who is Muslim herself and how she accepts all who are living with her. I smiled how one of the Black men was wearing a shirt with ducks on it and how comfortable he felt. It made me cry when the White woman was helping Covad fix his tie. And, then Nina spoke to Sebastian in Spanish. That was a tear jerker.

All different backgrounds, colors, and whatever else, that were getting along and who have genuine affection for each other. I know that I'm being silly but this episode just touched me in this way.

Anyway, I really like Renee Hill! I just love her attitude and maturity. She wears 51 quite well.

by Anonymousreply 27403/22/2019

Kovid is Muslim?! I thought that was a Hindu prayer or something. I think less of him now but then again, I think less of all religious gays.

[quote]I smiled how one of the Black men was wearing a shirt with ducks on it and how comfortable he felt.

Why? What's the meaning of ducks for black people? I agree about the diversity. Although, has this show really ever had a diversity problem? Aside from maybe the very early seasons, but that was ages ago.

by Anonymousreply 27503/22/2019

R274 thanks for the SJW report. There are too many contestants and the show is way too long. The diversity is also too forced and crammed down everyone’s throats. When Kovid, or whatever his name is, was going on and on about his love and respect for women I was just begging that all the judges would vote the annoyance off. Show him how people really are.

by Anonymousreply 27603/22/2019

[quote]Show him how people really are.

Like you just did with your post?

by Anonymousreply 27703/22/2019


by Anonymousreply 27803/22/2019

The New & Improved Project Runway Tackles A Lot More Than Just Clothes

by Anonymousreply 27903/22/2019

R279 thanks for sharing that. It goes to show me I’m done with the show. I want entertainment not messages.

by Anonymousreply 28003/22/2019

You can have both, r280.

by Anonymousreply 28103/22/2019

Show me a message-less piece of entertainment please, thank you.

by Anonymousreply 28203/22/2019

R282, MTV awaits your presence! Not to mention real housewives, Mama June, and those duck makers.

by Anonymousreply 28303/22/2019

It’s new, but not necessarily improved, r279...

by Anonymousreply 28403/22/2019

r283 If you honestly believe there is no message in any of those shows you mentioned, you really need to attend a Sociology 101 class.

Those shows are perpetuating everything that makes America American and I assure you they are as loaded with (alien) messages to me as a foreigner as any of my country's shows would be to you. You're just so accustomed and desensitized to those messages, you don't even register them as such anymore.

So it really is no coincidence that you're bitching only about those messages in this show that make [italic]you[/italic] feel uncomfortable, like diversity.

by Anonymousreply 28503/22/2019

R285, I think you misread my post...

by Anonymousreply 28603/22/2019

Christian is doing an absolutely fabulous job.

by Anonymousreply 28703/22/2019

This was a beautiful dress that Sebastian created.

by Anonymousreply 28803/22/2019

But, I liked Tessa's entry too!

by Anonymousreply 28903/22/2019

From r279’s link:

[quote]Armed with a wide range of fashion world expertise, this new crew is dedicated to shaping the show's contestants (not just the eventual winner) for the long haul, and teaching them to create something more than just a garment — be that a legacy, an impact, a new perspective, or all three.


by Anonymousreply 29003/22/2019

Are Christian and his husband still together?

by Anonymousreply 29103/22/2019

I guess not!

Christian Siriano and Brad Walsh Break Up After 2 Years of Marriage

by ELYSE DUPRE | Tue., Jun. 26, 2018 6:21 AM

by Anonymousreply 29203/22/2019

Karlie is an incredible runway model but please don't ask her to speak. Her voice which reminds me of Alexis on Schitt's Creek. On that show it's funny as hell...on this's annoying as shit...

by Anonymousreply 29303/22/2019

It's interesting that they're doing all of the filming in Brooklyn. Manhattan proper is even too expensive for PR.

by Anonymousreply 29403/22/2019


Did you know....

These past Project Runway designers are five of the most successful winners that have come out of the show to take over the fashion world.

1. Christian Siriano. ...

2. Leanne Marshall. ...

3. Chloe Dao. ...

4. Irina Shabayeva. ...

5. Jeffrey Sebelia.

by Anonymousreply 29503/22/2019


Did you know....

The designers of Project Runway aren't paid for appearing on the show. What is surprising: beloved mentor Tim Gunn wasn't actually paid anything for the show's first season, either. And by season two, he was only making $2,500 per episode, according to the New York Daily News.

by Anonymousreply 29603/22/2019

R294 I noticed that too!! I thought it so odd they were anchored down in Brooklyn instead of the fashion district.

by Anonymousreply 29703/22/2019

Yeah, r289, but Sebastian made most of it...

by Anonymousreply 29803/22/2019

Brooklyn is not a part of New York. No one with any refinement should even think of setting foot in Brooklyn. We did once and ended up divorced.

by Anonymousreply 29903/22/2019


by Anonymousreply 30003/22/2019

Oh, how we miss Michael Kors.

by Anonymousreply 30103/22/2019

Sebastian's dress was a work of art, intricate .. and moved beautifully on the runway. He also made the bag. He did most of the work on the collection, with helping the others. Good win.

by Anonymousreply 30203/22/2019

I'm with you, R274. It's very refreshing to see a cast that is reflective of our society. I think that the people who don't like it, are the type who would truly never like or appreciate diversity, if you know what I mean?

[quote] It's interesting that they're doing all of the filming in Brooklyn. Manhattan proper is even too expensive for PR.

I actually think it's a good move.

By filming in Brooklyn AND cutting the salaries of the judges, the show was able to make some nice upgrades to the stage, the workroom, the living quarters, and most of all the winner's prize money.

The winner actually wins $250,000 which is more than Lifetime was awarding.

I really do think that this new version of PR is focusing on rewarding the contestants more, and the highly-paid host/judges, less.

If this is truly the case, then I applaud Nina even more for taking a pay cut in order to benefit the contestants. Mega-rich Heidi was clearly not willing to do so.

by Anonymousreply 30303/22/2019

It's the sponsor who provides the $250K prize money, not the producers. They announce this at the top of each episode.

Christian and Brad were together forever, at least 10 years, before they got married. Their lives were very intertwined--financially, socially, etc.--so the split couldn't have been simple. Christian has only recently begun to show off his new piece on Instagram. The new guy is a muscly twink, of course. Good for him.

by Anonymousreply 30403/22/2019

is heidi klum retired?

by Anonymousreply 30503/22/2019

Her and Tim are doing a show for Amazon dear

by Anonymousreply 30603/22/2019

R295, Michael Costello has to be in the top group.

by Anonymousreply 30703/22/2019

When will the Amazon show with Heidi and Tim get released?

by Anonymousreply 30803/22/2019

[quote] Sebastian's dress was a work of art, intricate .. and moved beautifully on the runway. He also made the bag. He did most of the work on the collection, with helping the others. Good win.

Well said!

by Anonymousreply 30903/22/2019

Not that it matters regardling the competition but I wonder if Sebastian has experience creating that dress. It just seemed to be a little “too realized” to have derived from a last-minute design idea. I’ll be curious to see if he can continue to dazzle in the coming weeks.

by Anonymousreply 31003/22/2019

R310, do you think that the designs are all original thoughts and never things that are versions of things they have already made before coming on the show?

by Anonymousreply 31103/22/2019

Okay, I've only seen the very first season of this show and bits and pieces of it in the following years. I'm more aware about Christian Soriano because of all of the publicity that he gets and his store is located in my neighborhood. I know about Jack Mackenroth because... well... It was from DL that I learned about Wendy Pepper's death. I enjoy reading about the show but I could never really follow it religiously. It had just lost something for me. It might be that no one (very few exceptions) ever became a breakout superstar designer. Of that list above, I'm only familiar with Christian.

But, this reboot has caught my attention for some reason. What I have noticed from reading some of the biographies is that the contestants seem to be much more professionally mature than past contestants. Sebastion, Cavanaugh, and Renee, just to name a few seemed to have already had somewhat of successful careers in the fashion industry. Maybe this makes a difference?

by Anonymousreply 31203/22/2019

The industry has changed as well. I'm not in the industry, and though it does seem like there are more designers than ever, in theory they have a more direct internet path to launching a collection independently.

by Anonymousreply 31303/22/2019

Sebastian’s first weeks look was very good as well, r310.

by Anonymousreply 31403/22/2019

Yes, R314. I don't know how you would get into it but it photographs well!

by Anonymousreply 31503/22/2019

I'm sorry but I thought Venny Etienne should have been gone after this. It would have been between him and Frankie


by Anonymousreply 31603/22/2019

Do you think Ivanka will guest judge during the week when the challenge is to design around host Karlie Kloss Kushner’s monogram?

by Anonymousreply 31703/22/2019

If she does, everybody needs to boycott.

by Anonymousreply 31803/22/2019

Yes, so far Sebastian combines creativity and sewing skill and the ability to work fast under ridiculous conditions.

by Anonymousreply 31903/22/2019

And to think that was in the top, r316

by Anonymousreply 32003/22/2019

This was really quite good too!

Afa Ah Loo

by Anonymousreply 32103/22/2019

Hopefully with Frankie gone we won’t have any fatties for models anymore.

by Anonymousreply 32203/22/2019

Yes, you will R322. Two separate competitions and they also want designers to show/prove that they can design for every size woman and body type.

by Anonymousreply 32303/22/2019

Yes but obese humans with vaginas are not women. They are cows. We don’t have a project runway for farm animals.

by Anonymousreply 32403/22/2019

R274 Your intent with your post was sweet but I have to throw cold water on it. Kovid isn't muslim and that was most likely a hindu prayer. I could be wrong and it could be Bhuddist prayer but it really sounded more like a Hindu one to me. The pose he was doing was also different from muslim morning prayers but I didn't really pay much attention to it because nothing about Kovid reads as muslim to me even though I'm south asian. I just watched it again and definitely not a muslim prayer.

by Anonymousreply 32503/22/2019

Alright, folks! Thanks for the correction. I made a mistake. Renee is Muslim and Kovid is whatever. Anyway, that wasn't the point of my post. Whether it's Muslim, Hindu, Buddhism, or Snap, Crackle, and Pop! I like how all the differences are able to get along.

by Anonymousreply 32603/22/2019

I don’t want to look at fucking fat women modeling on this show. I see enough fat people every day in real life. Give me a break with this shit.

by Anonymousreply 32703/22/2019

I thought only fraus and we frau-friendly gays watched this show. So what's with all the extreme fat-shaming posts and the deplorable anti-diversity shit? I don't recall older PR threads on DL being this... [italic]difficult[/italic] before. There have been plenty of non-white people on this show over the years so what's changed now that is causing people to freak out so much?

by Anonymousreply 32803/22/2019

R328 - SJW freak.

by Anonymousreply 32903/22/2019

R328 It's just how DL is now.

by Anonymousreply 33003/22/2019

r329 is exactly what I'm talking about. I've blocked about five posters and more just keep crawling out of the woodwork to proudly announce themselves. It's almost as if Karlie brought a basket of deplorables along with her to this show.

r330 It's a shame. I remember these threads being quite fun years ago. Oh, well.

by Anonymousreply 33103/22/2019

[quote]I don’t want to look at fucking fat women modeling on this show. I see enough fat people every day in real life. Give me a break with this shit.

Here's a suggestion, R327...


by Anonymousreply 33203/22/2019

On Datalounge, we love people who support anti-gay religions but we hate fat people. Got it.

by Anonymousreply 33303/22/2019

I for one make sure to mention the anti-gay angle every time someone on the show starts with the religious bullshit, be it Islam, evangelical Christianity (because you know the other kinds are usually quiet about their faith), or indeed Hinduism. After all, it was the right-wing Hindus who had been the most powerful players in blocking decriminalization of homosexuality in India for so many years.

Those who hate fat people should watch Shrill on Hulu; it was a real eye-opener for me. Though you'll have to suspend your disbelief and perceive them as people first, which might prove too tall an order for some of you.

by Anonymousreply 33403/22/2019

That was before the Milo type crowd came r328.

by Anonymousreply 33503/22/2019

I think it's very good to have a diverse cast with designers from all different backgrounds...but I think it's very annoying and patronizing when they constantly hit you over the head with "look how diverse and inclusive we are!!!" Like, Frankie was just a terrible designer but because of her whole "real women with curves" schtick, she was cast. The trans model is seriously unattractive (come on, Thailand is full of gorgeous ladyboys and they picked that one?). Just give us fucking fashion and fewer sob stories. That's all I want.

by Anonymousreply 33603/22/2019

Fat women showing too much skin, a tranny that doesn't pass (not that many do), Loonette's obnoxious twin, so many crying messes, and that's just in the first two episodes. Ugh. When is Heidi and Tim's show coming out on Amazon?

by Anonymousreply 33703/22/2019

And, what is it with you R337? Are you lonely? Do you need people to communicate with? WE GOT YOUR POINT!

Do yourself, (and us), a favor and don't watch the show! The fat people aren't going anywhere and neither are the crying messes. If you miss those "good ole days" then go to YouTube and watch past seasons. SHEESH!

by Anonymousreply 33803/22/2019

R338, you must have me confused with somebody else. The last comment I made on this thread was a week ago.

by Anonymousreply 33903/22/2019

Why is there no menswear design and modeling show? Are the design challenges for menswear this limited that you couldn't even do a one per year mini series reality competition show?

by Anonymousreply 34003/22/2019

I've yet to learn all the designers' names.

I was waiting for the woman with the long dreads to choke out the blue tulle chick.

I would not have been able to keep my anger in check.

by Anonymousreply 34103/23/2019

I agree r341, you can see how this chick uses her tears to gain sympathy. I was hoping they would be in the bottom, so the lady with dreads could throw her under the bus. The blue tulle chick is just getting much camera time you think she’ll get this season?

by Anonymousreply 34203/23/2019

[quote] they also want designers to show/prove that they can design for every size woman and body type.

Let's be honest, overweight women don't wear designer clothes. The vast majority of big women are of lower economic status, and have no interest in designer clothing and can't afford it. Why do they keep pushing this nonsense that designers need to design for all shapes and sizes?

by Anonymousreply 34303/23/2019

Exactly, R343. When will we be seeing "Christian Siriano for Walmart" advertisements?

by Anonymousreply 34403/23/2019

[quote]Let's be honest, overweight women don't wear designer clothes. The vast majority of big women are of lower economic status, and have no interest in designer clothing and can't afford it.

And, what type of data and where are you pulling from to make such claims?

by Anonymousreply 34503/23/2019

R345, The Book of Common Sense.

by Anonymousreply 34603/23/2019

I'm still waiting for the caftan challenge. This seems like a good season for it. How about "design a shent for Ina Garten"?

by Anonymousreply 34703/23/2019

[quote]I thought that they had that offering already. Wasn't this the datalounge winning design?

by Anonymousreply 34803/23/2019

Oh yes, lol. I thought that looked like a hospital gown.

by Anonymousreply 34903/23/2019

Was anyone else repulsed by the body modifications? Is this really the future? Ick.

by Anonymousreply 35003/23/2019

r350 I was absolutely disgusted and couldn't finish watching the episode. Producers tried to be hip and failed.

by Anonymousreply 35103/23/2019

90% of r312 belongs on the cutting room floor.

by Anonymousreply 35203/23/2019

The body modification is so gross.

by Anonymousreply 35303/23/2019

r350 Same here. How does Huck make money from those monstrosities? Simon Huckster, more like it.

And please don't tell me that's the future of fashion and that I'm just too old to get it because a) I'm not old and b) my taste is impeccable and that shit is straight-up ugly. Seriously, how does he market that? A couple of those pieces can't possibly fetch enough money to be able to sail the Caribbean all the time as he seems to be doing.

by Anonymousreply 35403/23/2019

I really took a liking to this but I kept wondering where I had seen it before....

by Anonymousreply 35503/23/2019

Then I remembered....

by Anonymousreply 35603/23/2019

r355 It's just a deconstructed Bibendum, gurl. And that one's been around since 1894; talk about digging deep for your inspiration.

by Anonymousreply 35703/23/2019

LOL! I'm not that well-versed in fashion, R357. The only other time that I remember seeing a coat like that was from a photo that showed Diana Ross wearing something similar while she waited for her cue when she was filming "The Wiz" outdoors. It just comes across as a luxurious look to me. However, on Wendy it just looks like an over sized comfort/blanket.

by Anonymousreply 35803/23/2019

r358 I can't believe that's actually Wendy in that photo. That's so crazy to me.

by Anonymousreply 35903/23/2019

The body modification episode reminded me of SyFy's Face Off.

by Anonymousreply 36003/23/2019

After seeing her gorgeous design in E1, I was shocked with what Renee came up with in E2. Group challenges don't make sense. Wish they'd do away with them.

by Anonymousreply 36103/23/2019

Me too, R361. I was surprised by how badly constructed her design was. But, she was the best of her group! I have this vision that Renee would become the queen of the multi-purpose dress and that would be her niche-especially given her background with all of those kids that she has. Clothing that can go from an office daytime look to a sexy evening look. After her impressive first showing I was looking forward to seeing creations that could be used again and again as a fresh looks.

I think the group exercises are good. You can see how far a person will go for the team before considering their own survival. Renee's team was a mess. As she pointed out, there was no leader and they wasted too much time with Frankie's histronics. Compare that with Sebastian's team where Tessa tool control and had Sebastian basically make her whole entry. It seemed as if it only took him 5 minutes to make that purse but you can see that it really balanced the ensemble and made it pop. Yet, he had no purse for his own submission.

by Anonymousreply 36203/23/2019

Sebastian's a doll for doing that. Plus it shows the kind of person he is. He's one of the most experienced designers on the show and it looks like he's done it all yet he'll drop what he's doing and produce a handbag for another designer. And Tessa was just sitting there telling him to do this and that like little Miss Diva. I hope he wins.

by Anonymousreply 36303/23/2019

[quote] I think it's very annoying and patronizing when they constantly hit you over the head with "look how diverse and inclusive we are!!!" Like, Frankie was just a terrible designer but because of her whole "real women with curves" schtick, she was cast.

I think that Frankie being saved had everything to do with that Elaine judge.

She's supremely annoying, and she basically admitted in episode two that she was the one who "pushed hard" to save Frankie, and after seeing Frankie's second design, she just couldn't comment.

That's why big-mouthed judges like Elaine "boss lady" should be fucking over-ruled. She thinks she knows it all, but Frankie proved her to be an idiot.

by Anonymousreply 36403/23/2019

I hated her "there are no bossy ladies, only boss ladies" line.

Yeah, I know, some idiots consider any woman that asserts herself to be bossy, but there IS such a thing as a woman (or man) being too domineering. There is a line and a person that crosses it is being bossy.

by Anonymousreply 36503/23/2019

[quote] Let's be honest, overweight women don't wear designer clothes. The vast majority of big women are of lower economic status, and have no interest in designer clothing and can't afford it. Why do they keep pushing this nonsense that designers need to design for all shapes and sizes?

"Every Time Leslie Jones Wears Christian Siriano, Her Look Sells Like Crazy"

A few years ago, Leslie Jones went on Twitter to lament that no one wanted to dress her for the premiere of Ghostbusters. Quickly, Christian Siriano — a designer who has built his reputation and career on dressing all body types — swooped in and offered to dress the Saturday Night Live star in her dream gown, a Pretty Woman-esque off-the-shoulder red stunner.

Turns out, it became a highly coveted look.

“We’ve sold hundreds of that red gown,” Siriano tells PEOPLE when he stopped by our New York offices recently to discuss his support of the campaign.

“Certain celebrities, when they wear clothes, people immediately want it,” says Siriano. “Our wildcard is when we dress Leslie.”

Perhaps it helps that every time the star, 51, wears one of his looks, she declares her love of the shape, fit, silhouette and color on social media. She’s as enthusiastic about her love of Siriano as she is about the Olympics or SNL co-star Colin Jost.

“She’s my hype woman,” says Siriano.

That goes for almost every time she’s worn clothes, including the blue jumpsuit to the Emmys in 2016, a blue suit for the Perfect Game 20th Anniversary bash and a white tuxedo mini to the Time 100 Gala in April.

“I just feel amazing,” she cheered on Instagram.

Most recently, she wore an iridescent suit to the Emmys in September. Jones boasted about her look on social media again. “Man I looked good giving @iamreginaking her Emmy!!”

Behind the scenes, it was a stressful moment: He fit her in the look the night before his New York Fashion Week show, at a point when he was incredibly busy. But he did not hesitate to help her — and the look became an instant hit with women who asked to score the shimmery design for themselves.

While Jones is talented at hyping the designer, the clothes themselves are what really speak to people, he notes.

“I think people really resonate with seeing different people on the runway or different people on the red carpet that look more like them,” he says. “You have to put things in people’s face for them to get it sometimes.”

“I hated when people said, ‘you only make clothes for this certain person.’ I’m like, well that’s just not true,” he continues. “So, you have to put it in their face, and what I’ve been trying to do, so that the customer understands that she can buy any size we have available.” (Siriano carries up to size 28.)

Another thing he’s putting in people’s face: Sweating.

He teamed up with Dermira to launch, a destination to help people to feel better about hyperhidrosis. On the site, he provides tips to deal with sweat when choosing looks.

“This is a real medical condition, and a lot of people struggle with it,” he says. “I’ve dressed so many people, and it can be a really hard thing for people. They won’t wear something, they don’t want to go to an event. I want to say that it’s not this horrible thing that you can’t live your life on.”

The secret, he says, is choosing styles and fabrics that are better suited to potential sweat breakouts, like a pretty print or cotton and linen.

“I remember dressing Angela Bassett and the sweating showed,” he says of Bassett’s yellow cape silk gown for the 2016 Emmy Awards. “I wish I would have known, because I could have guided her in a different direction.”

Ultimately, whether it’s tackling sweat challenges or flaunting your shape, his grand goal is to help women to feel fabulous.

“No matter who you are, you can still have fun with fashion,” he says. “It goes back to my whole idea of supporting all different types of people and trying to make themselves feel great about themselves. We just want to make people feel good.”

by Anonymousreply 36603/23/2019

And don't forget Christian's Billy Porter "tuxedo gown."

I have really come to appreciate Christian as a designer for diversity, and call it being an SJW if you want, but he's really changing the world of fashion.

by Anonymousreply 36703/23/2019

Another Christian Siriano design...

He actually puts his money where his mouth is.

by Anonymousreply 36803/23/2019

On the show Christian Siriano comes off like he's smelling something awful and trying to locate the source that creates that awful smell.

by Anonymousreply 36903/23/2019

The "all shapes and sizes" idea was probably Christian's.

So stop whining about it.

[quote] Christian Siriano's Message on the Runway: "People Are People"

The designer made his own political statement during his presentation.

If there's one thing we know about Christian Siriano, it's that he's a designer for all people. And for his latest runway show, held at the Plaza Hotel's Grand Ballroom, he made that message clear.

In a sea of shimmery bronze gowns, cut-out velvet dresses and tassel-embellished styles from his rich fall 2017 collection, there was one standout: a black T-shirt that read in white font "People Are People," paired with a pink satin, thigh-high slit skirt. The look, worn by model Jasmine Poulton, received loud cheers from guests attending the show, including Alicia Silverstone, Morena Baccarin, Danielle Brooks, Samira Wiley, Juliette Lewis, Alexa Chung and Coco Rocha.

"I just felt like it was nice to end the show on a little bit of a cleansing idea," Siriano told The Hollywood Reporter backstage post-show. "People are people, we should all be celebrated in our own way. It's very simple. It’s not that hard to do and I think that that's what it was about."

Though the finale was set to Depeche Mode's "People Are People," Siriano said the T-shirt slogan wasn't inspired by the 1984 hit. "But it made sense," he said.

"We were trying to figure out what politically we wanted to say, because I didn't really want to be political," he explained. "[The shirt] is about human rights. It's not about politics, it's about supporting everyone. That’s what I thought was important," he said.

Siriano's husband, Brad Walsh, later tweeted that he was the one who designed the tee, and that 100 percent of proceeds will be donated to the ACLU.

"I love the fact that he knows the importance of representation. He understands that all women should be seen and deserve to be dressed and feel beautiful," Orange Is the New Black star Brooks told The Hollywood Reporter. "I'm grateful that he's allowed me to be his muse for Lane Bryant and the fact that I get to sit first row at his show. I'm just very honored." Siriano collaborated with Lane Bryant on a plus-size collection last year.

Baccarin, who wore Siriano's design for the first time while attending the presentation, told THR that "it's really rare that you have a designer that can combine modernity and also classic style with many silhouettes that work for many women, not just one."

Asked how she's coping with today's political climate, Baccarain noted, "I think it's important for people to check their facts and not just be mean because that doesn't help. We just all have to stay in control and do what helps."

One thing that helps? Finding an escape with fashion, beauty and the arts.

"We're sitting here watching fashion, watching all this beautiful work that we create. You should take yourself out!" Siriano exclaimed. "There’s enough hate going on in the world." Preach.

by Anonymousreply 37003/23/2019

That quilted thing looks like the Orolay cloak-type puffer. I saw someone wearing one yesterday. Orolay who brought to the world The Amazon Coat that's been a thing this winter.

by Anonymousreply 37103/23/2019

Yeah, I don't know where that poster got the idea that fat girls don't care about fashion or don't want to feel like princesses too. HELL! There are men who want to be princesses. Refer to R367.

by Anonymousreply 37203/23/2019

You just have to use more material....

by Anonymousreply 37303/23/2019

it's good so far. nina will get rid of the other two boring judges at some point. she usually does.

by Anonymousreply 37403/23/2019

Christian Siriano is great so far. love him!

by Anonymousreply 37503/23/2019

Mrs. Obama, while not a fat girl, is a BIG girl in the vein of a Leslie Jones. It's clear that she loves fashion and looks great in many outfits. The dress below is the one Brandon Maxwell made for her.

by Anonymousreply 37603/23/2019

Can the Siriano fan please stop posting the entire text of the articles? I know you've only done two that way so far, but proper form is to provide a brief excerpt and then a link to the rest.

by Anonymousreply 37703/23/2019

[quote]it's good so far. nina will get rid of the other two boring judges at some point. she usually does.

I like Nina. I'm not very familiar with the fashion industry but in my opinion she doesn't get enough of the recognition that she deserves. I would think that she would be comparable to an Anna Wintour. But, maybe her last name has something to do with it? Or, is it just her personality?

Anyway, I think that PR gives her a platform to be an inspiration to many people especially young Latina girls.

by Anonymousreply 37803/23/2019

[Quote] I think that PR gives her a platform to be an inspiration to many people especially young Latina girls.

Nina has control the show for a very very long time now.

by Anonymousreply 37903/23/2019

[quote]Nina has control the show for a very very long time now.

That's very true. But, it is the BRAVO network. How big is that footprint?

by Anonymousreply 38003/23/2019

[quote]I hated her "there are no bossy ladies, only boss ladies" line.

She's full of shit. You can tell by her superior attitude that she would cuss out any woman who tried to be a boss lady to her. They need to replace her next season.

by Anonymousreply 38103/23/2019

The thing about using different sized models is that it makes it about the woman and not the clothes. It’s all well and good when designing for a living, but in a design competition the models should be of a similar frame size so as to fade to the status of mannequin and allow the fashion to the fore. Fashion should be for all, but larger frames often don’t show fashion to its best advantage.

by Anonymousreply 38203/23/2019

That Brandon Maxwell gown on Michelle Obama is one of the least flattering gowns she has worn.

But thanks for the info on Sirano. I 've never been a big fan of his so I thought he only designed gowns for B list actresses which I assumed he provided for free for the publicity.

by Anonymousreply 38303/23/2019

I’m watching it on demand. The first ep was awful. If the next couple are that bad, I’m out for good.

by Anonymousreply 38403/23/2019

[quote]R134 . Do your coworkers huddle around you and console you and hug you when you're feeling stressed?

Yes. But I work in one of our better brothels.

by Anonymousreply 38503/23/2019

[quote]R146 Tim Gunn, as a trained teacher, is a “mentor” for a living. He has years of experience that Christian doesn’t have.

So why didn’t they just get someone more experienced in that role, instead of CS? Just because someone’s talented doesn’t mean they’re a great communicator, or able to impart or analyze anything. Or be inspirational.

CS seems to lack the “people person” aspect needed for all that.

by Anonymousreply 38603/23/2019

[quote] The thing about using different sized models is that it makes it about the woman and not the clothes. It’s all well and good when designing for a living, but in a design competition the models should be of a similar frame size so as to fade to the status of mannequin and allow the fashion to the fore.

A TV reality game show needs new twists to stay fresh. Not all shows can stay the same like, say, Jeopardy.

Different sized models is about creating a new image branding for the modeling and fashion industry as much as for the game show format.

by Anonymousreply 38703/24/2019

[quote] The thing about using different sized models is that it makes it about the woman and not the clothes.

I can see how it could seem confusing or distracting in a competition setting. It's on trend though in a way. A bunch of real designers are making it about the individual by casting celebs and older models. A related article where street cast models of all ages use naturalistic movements and *gasp* make eye contact!

by Anonymousreply 38803/24/2019

R241- Is Afa a Mormon? He attended BYU & resides in Utah. That may explain the wife & baby. Also, Samoans are antigay. I think he's about as straight as that Samoan from '90 Day Fiance', Asuelu.

by Anonymousreply 38903/24/2019

The designers weren't even listening to Tim Gunn's advice anymore, because half the time it was wrong. I lost count of the times the judges liked something that Tim hated, and vice-versa.

Siriano is more attuned to what current design tastes are right now since he's actually in the business himself. He's not as good on camera as Tim, but his advice is more useful.

by Anonymousreply 39003/24/2019

[Quote]Tim Gunn's advice anymore, because half the time it was wrong. I lost count of the times the judges liked something that Tim hated, and vice-versa.

But this will always be the case. Its not a science, it's an opinion. No one can predict every opinion a judge will have.

by Anonymousreply 39103/24/2019

I appreciate diversity..I think it's great. Just don't fucking pander to me. I find it tiring and insulting. This show panders and assumes we are intolerant idiots. I hate that. I hate Hester too. She looks like a Betsy Johnson wannabe. At least this episode and Rene's win last week showed us there is some real talent here.

by Anonymousreply 39203/24/2019

Kovid reminds me of a sad Chihuahua

Hester reminds me of a Mary Englebreit teapot:

by Anonymousreply 39303/24/2019


by Anonymousreply 39403/24/2019

Project Runway is flopping hard in the ratings. Though not surprising when you feature 90% PoC cast who were only cast for their HEARTWARMING, TRAGIC and INSPIRING backstories and not ability or talent.

by Anonymousreply 39503/24/2019

Renee didn’t win...

by Anonymousreply 39603/24/2019

Don't even bother; you're interfering with their own little angry fantasy world.

by Anonymousreply 39703/24/2019

The designers are the ugliest group in history. The show needs more like Logan Neitzel.

by Anonymousreply 39803/24/2019

I lost interest because of the new judges, the loss of Tim and Heidi, the new host and the latest challenge.

by Anonymousreply 39903/24/2019

Karlie is a terrible host. She is not a star in the way that Heidi was. Even Alyssa Milano was much better as host of All-Stars.

by Anonymousreply 40003/24/2019

Well one thing they could do is STOP with all the jump cuts and weird angles during the runway. They've given the designers more time to work, give us more time to see the finished garment. By the time the "safes" are dismissed, I've forgotten what their designs looked like; I just know that one or more should have been in the top or bottom. Even flashing a photo of their look each time one is named would be helpful.

by Anonymousreply 40103/25/2019

It's terrible. The format is too forced. Siriano is not a good mentor. Kloss is not a good host. The two new judges are just bad copies of Michael Kors.

by Anonymousreply 40203/25/2019

Michael Kors is a bad copy of Michael Kors

by Anonymousreply 40303/25/2019

I think the show feels fresh and I think it was smart to wash the Lifetime stink off of it and just do some things differently. The show actually feels like it's about fashion again.

by Anonymousreply 40403/25/2019

[quote] give us more time to see the finished garment.

Good point! I thought that it was only me who felt that the designs were not given enough camera attention and were all quickly passed over.

by Anonymousreply 40503/25/2019

R404, did we watch the same show? It carries on the Lifetime SJW notion (stink?) of plus sized models. And if you thought keeping that blue strapped bathing suit was about fashion, then you’re nuts....or a public relations hack...

by Anonymousreply 40603/25/2019

We need more challenges inspired by Yoplait yogurt, Hallmark greeting cards and Red Robin bottomless fries. That's what you call fashion, baby!

by Anonymousreply 40703/25/2019

[quote]And if you thought keeping that blue strapped bathing suit was about fashion, then you’re nuts....

I think that the judges made a mistake and what they were doing was giving Frankie a chance because she stated that her whole mission was to design for plus-sized women. But, they were woefully disappointed by her skill set. I believe that one judge told her that she couldn't even drape properly. It simply was a blown judgement call that came at the expense of Cavanaugh.

by Anonymousreply 40803/25/2019

They need designers as talented as Ashley Tipton. I think Ashley would make a great mentor.

by Anonymousreply 40903/25/2019

How soon til we get the Unconventional Challenge?

Austin Scarlett still remains the best at that challenge.

by Anonymousreply 41003/25/2019

[quote]Austin Scarlett

Another WHET....

by Anonymousreply 41103/25/2019

[quote] I think that the judges made a mistake and what they were doing was giving Frankie a chance because she stated that her whole mission was to design for plus-sized women. But, they were woefully disappointed by her skill set.

There was that, but I also think that production was responsible for Frankie screwing up.

She kept going on and on about not knowing her model's measurements until she showed up for her fitting, and they never quite explained that.

It was always my understanding that the designers were given the model's measurements beforehand, but I guess that's not the case. When Frankie's model finally came in, she realized that she had designed the suit too short and too small, and that's why she had to put together a patchwork of sorts, to make up the difference in size between the swimsuit and the model.

In the end, I think that production fucked that one up, and I think that they felt responsible, which is why she was saved. It was also clear that the idiot judge "boss lady" Elaine (by her own admission) "pushed hard" for Frankie to stay, so I think that it was a combination of reasons for why she didn't get booted.

Nevertheless, Cavanagh was fucked over. She designed a perfectly good outfit, and compared to Frankie's, she never should have gone home.

by Anonymousreply 41203/25/2019

r411 I was just about to ask if he's still alive...

by Anonymousreply 41303/25/2019

[quote]Nevertheless, Cavanagh was fucked over. She designed a perfectly good outfit, and compared to Frankie's, she never should have gone home.

Yes, she really was. What a shame that you lose because more is expected of you versus the hope of a vision.

[quote]Elaine (by her own admission) "pushed hard" for Frankie to stay,

She did and I understand why. But, that decision exploded in her face.

by Anonymousreply 41403/25/2019

Elaine Welteroth was the one who told Frankie that the only reason she was cast (and saved in the first episode) for the show was because they wanted her to give them great plus size fashion, but she failed. In a way it was a pretty brutal send off.

by Anonymousreply 41503/25/2019

R300 - did you catch the double winner re Dmitry? Wonder if the All Stars PR team knows the winner was leaked.

by Anonymousreply 41603/25/2019

She was out of her league, R415. Frankie was a promise that could not deliver. Even her second submission was awful. Bad design and really bad execution. You almost wondered if the girl was even capable of sewing properly.

by Anonymousreply 41703/25/2019

R406 I’m not going to get into your damage about plus-sized models. They’re putting plus sized models on the cover of fashion magazines. It’s the latest fad and you are going to have to deal with it. As for Frankie, Tom and Lorenzo put it best. Cavanugh went home because she made a basic, boring dress and they thought Frankie had more in her. She didn’t and they rightly tossed her aside this week. If this were Lifetime, she would still be there.

by Anonymousreply 41803/25/2019

I thought they would have kept Cavenaugh on for longer, because she made such a great villain with her snotty attitude. The producers were idiots for not keeping her "safe" in the judging part.

by Anonymousreply 41903/25/2019

R411 Austin Scarlett designs wedding gowns. I loved him on PJ and wish he hadn’t gone home for a bathing suit.

by Anonymousreply 42003/25/2019

Frankie said something about the model being much taller than the mannequin which suggests she made the mistake of ignoring the measurements and/or thinking her mannequin was customized for her model. Given her performance—what was she doing on the show?

by Anonymousreply 42103/25/2019

[quote]Given her performance—what was she doing on the show?

They all fell for the promise of designs that would prioritize the plus sized woman.

by Anonymousreply 42203/25/2019

[quote]Austin Scarlett designs wedding gowns.

And, that's my point. Vera Wang designs wedding gowns. That's how she made her mark anyway. She's an international designer. Austin? Or, maybe he is much more known than I'm aware of.

OH! Isn't this a cute little frock!

by Anonymousreply 42303/25/2019

A promise is now good enough to get on PR?

by Anonymousreply 42403/25/2019

The whole show is very mother of the bride.

by Anonymousreply 42503/25/2019

[quote]I think the show feels fresh and I think it was smart to wash the Lifetime stink off of it and just do some things differently. The show actually feels like it's about fashion again.

I agree. I think it has been a successful update, my problem is the level of skill hasn't quite blown me away. There has been a lot of crappy stuff every runway and very few great pieces. But I guess that is often the case.

by Anonymousreply 42603/25/2019

“Well one thing they could do is STOP with all the jump cuts and weird angles during the runway. They've given the designers more time to work, give us more time to see the finished garment”

In total agreement. And the shitty music that accompanies the convulsion inducing cuts.

by Anonymousreply 42703/25/2019

Look at Top Chef. It has remained on Bravo and it has remained a quality production, even when they tried to liven the show up with a few gimmicks. The problem with PR is that when it left Bravo and Magical Elves it seriously went down hill. They lost the connection to the fashion world. They stopped getting top designers and people connected to fashion. These people weren't selling to the Lifetime demo.

The show is now back where it belongs and it has to rebuild itself. It has to get back a lot of people who stopped watching when it went to Lifetime. I have nothing against JCPenney, but it's not high fashion. And they are clearly rebuilding the show through stories and what inspires designers, sort of like the first season. And they also playing heavy into diversity and different body types, which is big in fashion right now.

I'm giving the show a B. Hopefully by the end of the season it will have risen to a B+.

by Anonymousreply 42803/25/2019

That is a darling frock at R423.

"Were given the model's measurements" , we don't know how detailed they are. Hopefully it's more than bust/waist/hip and height. Should include shoulder-wrist, upper arm circumference, pant rise, inseam, and a dozen more. Frankie had the shoulder-waist measurement wrong on her bathing suit. I think this was on her.

by Anonymousreply 42903/25/2019

When they went to examine the “bathing suit” and one of the straps came off in their hand, that should’ve sent her home. But no, that wasn’t enough to overcome the pity fest that episode is that new and fresh and un-Lifetime?

by Anonymousreply 43003/25/2019

R423, yes, it is a darling frock. I think he was better known right after PR, but when my niece got married, one of his dresses made the short list for either the church or the reception dress.

by Anonymousreply 43103/25/2019

Agreed that is a beautiful dress, r423. Perfectly less is more...

by Anonymousreply 43203/25/2019

R430 That's what I keep wondering about. I fail to see how this version of Project Runway is actually different. Even the flash sale challenges that kept mentioning as something new would happen occasionally on old project runway. It's annoying that they keep pushing this narrative that this is all new and different when it's not like they think if they repeat it enough that we'll all believe it.

It's sad that apparently they couldn't think of new ways to actually make it different.

by Anonymousreply 43303/25/2019

It seems like a pretty seamless transition, no pun intended, to the new show.

I agree that Cavanaugh should have stayed a little longer if only to make watching her leave that much sweeter. She and Frankie had essentially the same problem... they measured wrong. But Cavanaugh was such a snobby little bitch with all her talk about single beds in Paris and her cracks about the other designers. I was truly shocked when she turned out to be a fraud who couldn't even cut and sew a decent garment.

by Anonymousreply 43403/25/2019

[quote]When they went to examine the “bathing suit” and one of the straps came off in their hand, that should’ve sent her home.


Also, what was that when she had like 5 other designers sewing the bathing suit with only minutes til the girl would walk down the runway? That act alone is something that I thought would get her eliminated.

by Anonymousreply 43503/25/2019

I think they want more tension and drama between designers ala season 1. The whole blue tule thing was ridiculous. I would not let one person spend that much of my money. Then the dress with the arms pinned back? horrible.

by Anonymousreply 43603/25/2019

Karlie has some wonky facial expressions. Like 'crazy eyes' wonky.

by Anonymousreply 43703/25/2019

They have to keep Hester around for a bit though because they're short on kooky.

by Anonymousreply 43803/26/2019

Hester does look interesting in the confessionals. She really takes kooky stage costume look to the next level.

by Anonymousreply 43903/26/2019

Gotta have a gimmick, if you wanna get ahead...

by Anonymousreply 44003/26/2019

@R263 Hester is doing a rip off of Helena Bonham Carter, that’s why she seems familiar. Arguably coping Helena’s quirky character in Fight Club.

by Anonymousreply 44103/26/2019

Here's Hester -- far right.

by Anonymousreply 44203/26/2019

I was curious so I looked up Hester's Instagram...she's an accessories designer. Most of her photos are selfies wearing her "colorful clown" outfits. Also she was asked to leave Parsons, seems very proud of that, she put it in her PR bio. Don't think she'll be around nore than a week or two.

by Anonymousreply 44303/26/2019

The person upthread who likened Hester's look as a Betsey Johnson wanna be is so correct.

by Anonymousreply 44403/26/2019

[quote]Ugh. “...inclusion of plus-size models”

As terrible as it sounds, what kills me about having modelsvof all sizes and shapes is that the creations on the skinny tall ones always end up winning anyway. The judges eyes cannot help themselves

by Anonymousreply 44503/27/2019

Plus sized models may be a trend, but are they used in haute couture shows?

by Anonymousreply 44603/27/2019

[quote]The person upthread who likened Hester's look as a Betsey Johnson wanna be is so correct.

I think she worked for Betsey Johnson and they're friends.

by Anonymousreply 44703/27/2019

[quote]Plus sized models may be a trend, but are they used in haute couture shows?


Karl Lagerfeld

by Anonymousreply 44803/27/2019

Fingers crossed for tonight being the unconventional challenge.

by Anonymousreply 44903/28/2019

So who will start crying tonight?

by Anonymousreply 45003/28/2019

Didn’t Lagerfeld say there were too many fatties or some asshole-ish thing like that?

Surprised at R448.

So glad that ridiculous, untalented woman went home. Didn’t she scrap her outfit at the last moment last week? was it twice in a row that she was sewing last minute and everyone helping her out?

I though the back piece team was better than the winning group. That pantsuit with the ruffles? Amazing.

I did love the winning dress, though. Just stunning.

by Anonymousreply 45103/28/2019

How did Tessa win the first challenge if she doesn’t have sewing skills? And then to boss Sebastian around, telling him to get to work after he just made her garment. What a b......

by Anonymousreply 45203/28/2019

Dreadlocks lady needs to go. She has an attitude.

by Anonymousreply 45303/28/2019

It seems very few of these designers have the skills, taste and self confidence for this competition. So far it’s too much of a pity, hug and help fest...

by Anonymousreply 45403/28/2019

For the poster who was wondering what celebrity Kookie Hester reminds them of...

by Anonymousreply 45503/28/2019

I’m glad the right kind of drama -which Bravo excelled at - is back. Not the throwing each other under the bus or the boring humdrum creative clashes, but the real source of underlying drama ... havingvto share living quarters. Lifetime seldom took us to the apartments. Bravo brought it back, without it being Real World or Big Brother either.

by Anonymousreply 45603/28/2019

Kumbaya, r456...

by Anonymousreply 45703/28/2019

Oooh dreadlock girl (Nadine?) just topped her big model a new one. And her shade addressed the model’s physique and modeling style! She’s officially a cunt.

by Anonymousreply 45803/28/2019


Samoan guy






Garo Sbarro (whatever)

Black dude who’s a fan of stylist girl

Girl with long black hair and cheekbones

Great personalities:


Dark black guy

Black guy who’s a fan of stylist


Samoan guy

Lousy personalities:

Hester the Pester Jester

Dreadlock Bitch on Wheels

Likable, upbeat but annoying Indian Guy

No nonsense in a good way:


Dark black guy

Garo Sbarro


Gray haired girl

Syrian guy

Chunky black guy

And for some reason, everyone lives Indian Guy, so he must be very positive and only hard on himself. Maybe he gets too much camera time

by Anonymousreply 45903/28/2019

Holy shit. Kookie girl is totally serving Tammy Brown on runway day.

by Anonymousreply 46003/28/2019

Sebastian is worlds better than anyone else in the competition.

by Anonymousreply 46103/28/2019

Bishe (dark black guy) should be in the talent pile too.

But truth be told, the cream is rising to the top early on, and it’s coming from the Colombian coffee, as once again Sebastian sent a stellar design down the runway, perhaps second only to - and i so regret to admit it - Hester the Pester

by Anonymousreply 46203/28/2019

If anyone could share a streaming link that would be most appreciative.

by Anonymousreply 46303/28/2019

Nadine continues to rag on her model. I’m glad the judge read her to filth about it.


by Anonymousreply 46403/28/2019

Way to bury yourself with your words Nadine

by Anonymousreply 46503/28/2019

Ooh girl. Nadine's tail is on fire and it's catching up with her mouth!

by Anonymousreply 46603/28/2019

I believe Nadine was the one in the first episode who said "that's the going home look right there" to her neighbor

She's been a jerk from the start.

by Anonymousreply 46703/28/2019

[quote]Sebastian is worlds better than anyone else in the competition.

He really is. When his looks come out they are just so much more polished and professional looking. It feels like an pro playing in minor league.

by Anonymousreply 46803/28/2019

Sebastian rules!!

by Anonymousreply 46903/28/2019

I really don't get Kovid's being up there.

by Anonymousreply 47003/28/2019

Wrong attitude Nadine!!

by Anonymousreply 47103/28/2019
by Anonymousreply 47203/28/2019

Aw that was nice R472. Tks.

by Anonymousreply 47303/28/2019

OMG Nadine is now reading her fellow designers. “I love you all but I don’t need this shit etc.”

Now I KNOW that even though Nina despises her (rightfully so) they may keep her for drama.

And we may just have a tie up top.

by Anonymousreply 47403/28/2019

Bye Bitch!!

by Anonymousreply 47503/28/2019

Nadine girl. We didn't understand your silhouette or your etiquette.

by Anonymousreply 47603/28/2019

Loved that, after she stomped outta there, Christian just respected Nadine’s space and didn’t even have to ask her to clear her desk - let alone hug her...

by Anonymousreply 47703/28/2019

If Nadine had kept her mouth shut that other outfit in the bottom 2 would have been the one that went home. She punched her own ticket.

by Anonymousreply 47803/28/2019

Tight race and I’m glad the judges let the top three know. Sebastian must be feeling pretty good about his second place (and in my opinion I thought his first design which was just safe, deserved to be top three).

by Anonymousreply 47903/28/2019

They actually don’t go home, don’t they have to hang around until the competition is over?

by Anonymousreply 48003/28/2019

Nadine was pretty rude about her model. 'She's not walking, she's galloping. I told her not to do that."

She couldn't get over the fact that she got a larger model and it affected her whole time.

by Anonymousreply 48103/28/2019

All three of Sebastian’s looks should have won

by Anonymousreply 48203/28/2019

Sebastian has a beautiful smile. Would love to party with him.

by Anonymousreply 48303/28/2019

A publicists must have already snagged him...

Sebastian Grey Is the Designer to Watch on Season 17 of 'Project Runway'



by Anonymousreply 48403/28/2019

Sebastian is clearly a cut above the rest of them

by Anonymousreply 48503/28/2019

[quote]Nadine was pretty rude about her model. 'She's not walking, she's galloping. I told her not to do that."

I will begrudgingly give Nadine that she isn't wrong, that model is not a great walker. But you realize you are on TV right lady? Insulting your model just makes you look like a cunt.

by Anonymousreply 48603/28/2019

You could tell Nadine's model was getting mad. Nadine has a bad attitude. You know what's weird? Hester reminded me of Ally Sheedy for a minute or two there. Sebastian is amazing.

by Anonymousreply 48703/28/2019

I can't stand Hester at all. She seems like such an affected little bitch. However, she doesn't hold a candle to Nadine - Her comments are going to haunt her.

by Anonymousreply 48803/28/2019

I can't believe I'm saying this but Hester grew on me during this episode and I don't mind her anymore though I still think Sebastian's outfit should have won. Looking forward to the unusual materials challenge next week.

Also I found the way Karlie commented on the garter hilarious because she was the first one to mention it and it just reminded me about the gay rumours about her.

by Anonymousreply 48903/28/2019

[quote]Nadine - Her comments are going to haunt her.

She doesn’t care. Her sign-off clearly indicated she was not one for this industry.

by Anonymousreply 49003/29/2019

When you realize that being a model just ain't that easy.

This was AWFUL!

by Anonymousreply 49103/29/2019

The best part of this episode was how no one bothered to differentiate the word 'print' from the word 'pattern'.

by Anonymousreply 49203/29/2019

Garro has a very sexy voice.

I rewound the previews 5 times because I was howling at the Syrian designer. He was so freaked out by being among woodland creatures.

by Anonymousreply 49303/29/2019

I also laughed at Renee saying this was not for her. She was a city girl.

Next week looks fab= the unconventional challenge and the entire gang having to live & work out in the elements.

by Anonymousreply 49403/29/2019

Is she pregnant?

by Anonymousreply 49503/29/2019

I kind of liked Nadine's cunty attitude..I think she couldn't handle the stress. I fast forward through the little "adorable" Indian dude. I think Venny is cute as hell for some reason.

by Anonymousreply 49603/29/2019

Venny is cute

by Anonymousreply 49703/29/2019

Both Vennt and Seshi or whatever his name is are very hot- Sebastian hot. Too bad Samian guy and Puff black guy aren’t - they’re too fluff.

by Anonymousreply 49803/29/2019

Ok I should have proof read:


Samoan guy

Puffy black guy

by Anonymousreply 49903/29/2019

The attitude on Nadine, and then implying her model was a mare with that "she gallops" comment. I think she got progressively more bitter, seeing other contestants who are old enough to be her kids doing better than her, and also judging her - everyone on that panel except for Nina was relatively young, which might have set her off.

Speaking of judges, that pornstache denim guy with the boots for shoveling crap in the stables is the newest addition to my irrational hatred list. Fuck, I want to inflict homo-on-homo violence on him so bad.

r489 Are lesbians really into garters or something? Do guys find garters sexy on a woman? I've always wondered - what the hell's the function of a garter that's not attached to anything, anyway? Like, what does it do?

by Anonymousreply 50003/29/2019

I just did not get crazy Hester Sue's outfit. Not sure why they were all gaga over something that looked like Sexy Red Riding Hood Outfit from Party City. Also wasn't a big fan of Kovid's outfit. His draping made the model look blah. I think they had a pity fuck edit this week.

by Anonymousreply 50103/29/2019

Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention that I don't get the love for Hester's outfit. At all. The print was doing the heavy lifting there because the design was nothing to write home about.

by Anonymousreply 50203/29/2019

Bishme should have been in the top 3.

His outfit had the WOW factor, and there's a reason the producers used it to open the show. You always start and finish the runway, with the strongest designs.

Mimi is quite a good model. So far, everything she has worn has looked fabulous.

by Anonymousreply 50303/29/2019

I just watched the whole episode. I think a lot of the bad feeling regarding Nadine had to do with the editing. She said at the top of the show that she missed her family and especially her boys. It seems that the living arrangements had finally gotten to her. She complained about needing a clean kitchen and doing the dishes every night. Uhm... where's the dishwasher? Anyway, she needed to do this competition in order to learn what she didn't like. She shouldn't have done this competition because she just can't cut it.

Frankie would have NEVER made it through this competition.

Somebody should snatch Sebastian now!

by Anonymousreply 50403/29/2019

[quote]The attitude on Nadine, and then implying her model was a mare with that "she gallops" comment.

Oh, yeah... That really was ugly on Nadine's part.

by Anonymousreply 50503/29/2019

[quote]I've always wondered - what the hell's the function of a garter that's not attached to anything, anyway? Like, what does it do?

As a stripper, it's very handy in holding my money.

by Anonymousreply 50603/29/2019

[quote] I think a lot of the bad feeling regarding Nadine had to do with the editing. She said at the top of the show that she missed her family and especially her boys. It seems that the living arrangements had finally gotten to her. She complained about needing a clean kitchen and doing the dishes every night

It's true. The living arrangements are different with this version of PR because in the old days, males and females were separated, and there was no kitchen. They were in smaller living groups of four to six people, which was probably less stressful than living with 16 other people. It must be chaos.

Not only that, but the show is suited to younger people who can handle the pressure. People in their 40's and 50's just have no more patience for living in a dorm-like setting, much less being put under intense competition and time constraints.

I'm not saying that Nadine wouldn't be a bitch normally, but her whole "I'm over it" attitude is perfectly understandable.

However, Renee and the other older lady seem to be handling it well.

by Anonymousreply 50703/29/2019


Oh god I meant Bishme!

by Anonymousreply 50803/29/2019

Sebastian is hot as hell. He can come to clean my house.

by Anonymousreply 50903/29/2019

I want to make sweet love to Sebastian.

But what's his real name?

by Anonymousreply 51003/29/2019

Jhoan Grey, known to friends as Sebastián

by Anonymousreply 51103/29/2019

Nadine might miss her family, but she won't be back with them until the show finishes production.

by Anonymousreply 51203/29/2019

Still can't stand Hester. I'm sure there is more to that Parsons story than she is letting on. You don't get kicked out just for being some unconventional person that needs a little "individual attention" or however she put it. You CAN flunk out if you're not capable of doing the work and you can also get kicked out for certain behavioral problems, but sorry, I'm not buying her "Brilliant, Misunderstood Me vs. The World" bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 51303/29/2019

I know. AND it’s not that easy to flunk out of a higher education program you were accepted to in the first place. So what happened had to be BIG.

by Anonymousreply 51403/30/2019

Hester's outfit was "Editorial". No woman could wear that shit on the street, at a party, or at day care. She's gonna be on a rainbow high until she fucks up. She can make costumes, not clothing.

by Anonymousreply 51503/30/2019

Hester's "conventional Italian restaurant tablecloth" print was horrid. Hated!

by Anonymousreply 51603/30/2019

[quote]Hester's outfit was "Editorial". No woman could wear that shit on the street, at a party, or at day care.

As a full look it was a lot, but like the judges correctly pointed out, all those individual pieces were very wearable.

by Anonymousreply 51703/30/2019

I can't wait for Hester to get the boot, but her look did meet the challenge better than any of the others. It was editorial, highlighted a print, and incorporated multiple accessories.

by Anonymousreply 51803/30/2019

What does "Editorial" mean?

by Anonymousreply 51903/30/2019

It can photograph well r519, there is enough visual interest that a photographer can create a nice photoshoot for Elle.

Like if you have a nice look but with muted colors and subtle details, it would not be a very editorial look.

by Anonymousreply 52003/30/2019

[quote]She can make costumes, not clothing.

Maybe that's her calling. But, it is a good question about how a school handles a talent like a Hester or Betsy Johnson, just to name a few quirky designers.

by Anonymousreply 52103/30/2019

Kovid's garment was bizarre. I thought I must be totally out of the loop to wonder why the judges were going nuts over it.

by Anonymousreply 52203/30/2019

I didn't get it either but it was very well constructed. It appeared as if everything lined up and matched.

by Anonymousreply 52303/30/2019

That's why I think that the judges were too harsh on Garo Sparo. I see the point of view that the outfit seemed dated (it reminded me of 60's fashion) but it was a damn good job getting all of those stripes to line up and match.

by Anonymousreply 52403/30/2019

Garo Sparo designs for Drag Queens. I can see Detox in the outfit and living. He needs to start created for the woman who would buy.

by Anonymousreply 52503/30/2019

And Kovid put a "gas mask" on his model, which I thought was bizarre. It was a shapeless monstrosity IMO, and plaid just isn't my favorite pattern.

by Anonymousreply 52603/30/2019

Garo's would have looked really good in black and white.

by Anonymousreply 52703/30/2019

[quote]I'm not saying that Nadine wouldn't be a bitch normally, but her whole "I'm over it" attitude is perfectly understandable.

It is understandable. As I wrote earlier: "she needed to do this competition in order to learn what she didn't like. She shouldn't have done this competition because she just can't cut it."

What I'm seeing is that it REALLY is a good mix of those who truly have the talent to be designers versus dress makers versus those who just like to sew (Frankie). Sebastian is off the charts but they may be setting him up to be the Kara Saun of this season. EVERYONE just KNEW that Kara Saun was going to win season one. But, she made a fatal mistake and the win went to Jay McCarroll--what happened to him...

Sebastian is EXCELLENT (in my opinion) and what he needs is a year or two working with an established house like a Ralph Lauren, Carolina Herrera, or someone on that level, to give him the business foundation to strike out on his own.

by Anonymousreply 52803/30/2019

I agree with R524. Garo's look was well constructed. Imagine those leggings in the context of athleisure. They'd be very hip.

by Anonymousreply 52903/30/2019

[quote]Loved that, after she stomped outta there, Christian just respected Nadine’s space and didn’t even have to ask her to clear her desk - let alone hug her...

He knows better. When a woman says that she is done--ESPECIALLY a Black woman, you leave them alone. You let them be and don't push it. Christian has been around the block.

by Anonymousreply 53003/30/2019

It is so nice to see this show be about design again with real designers and not reality show contestants looking for camera time. I get why Hester won, but Sebastian's look was everything. And how many of you eldergays totally got where Nadine was coming from. I think some unseen force in the universe turns on a no time for bullshit switch after we all turn 45.

Two criticisms:

1) In theory, I have nothing against plus sized models. But I think the models should all be the same size. What I'm about to say is not nice or okay, but the designers with the plus sized models outfits don't look as good. I think they should either go to a plus sized model challenge or every other week use plus sized models for everyone. And I'm saying this as a one time plus sized man who was always screaming about the clothing selection. I know it's on trend and we're all celebrating curves now, but there is a difference and it shows.

2) This show really doesn't need to be 90 minutes.

by Anonymousreply 53103/30/2019

[quote]And how many of you eldergays totally got where Nadine was coming from. I think some unseen force in the universe turns on a no time for bullshit switch after we all turn 45.

She has different priorities. These are priorities of which she may not even have realized. She loves and missed her family. She doesn't have the "fire in the belly" to be a top internationally recognized fashion designer. Her demeanor is something that will work quite well on a local level. She'll be fine.

[quote]but the designers with the plus sized models outfits don't look as good.

But, isn't that the challenge? I think one of the reasons for Christian Soriano's success is that he will design and dress any shape woman. Big women, (and men), love fashion and want to be/feel beautiful too. They don't want to feel as if they are an afterthought--A size 18 being fitted for a design that looks great on a size 2,

by Anonymousreply 53203/30/2019

I have voiced criticism of using various sized models upthread, and think r531’s suggestion of having all the designers use plus sized models for every other week would be much better than what they do now. I disagree with him that the show is all about design now, as I see it as a big crybaby, sob story, kumbaya fest. If they didn’t have the excellent Sebastian, this show would be a design nothingburger...

by Anonymousreply 53303/30/2019

I didn't get the critique of Garo's design (it wasn't my aesthetic, but someone would wear that, especially as it was impeccably made). We were also a bit WTF at the hyper praise of Hester's design, which was a bit of overkill in a very safe pattern.

But, all in all, ok with the judging this season, and loving y'all, my bitches, for bringing the sharp critique every week. Runway may never truly be glorious again, but these first three weeks have been more fun because of you cranky vipers!

by Anonymousreply 53403/30/2019

I think that Hester is this season's Kenley Collins.

The way that they're focusing on her so much, I'm guessing that she'll make it to the finale.

by Anonymousreply 53503/30/2019

Why is everyone covering up their shoes with fabric now?

by Anonymousreply 53603/30/2019

To the poster who referenced Kara Saun, she turned out to be a cheater and a hypocrite....and Hester’s look was more gimmick than high design. Sebastian’s designs have been the best all three episodes, so I’m sure he’ll somehow be derailed for the sake of reality drama

by Anonymousreply 53703/30/2019


how was kara saun a cheater?

by Anonymousreply 53803/30/2019

The donated shoes, and then phony receipts for the shoes

by Anonymousreply 53903/30/2019

I can definitely see Sebastian being plucked by one of the big design houses after the show finishes. Not only is he talented, he's also humble and kind, all the qualities needed for a blazing success.

by Anonymousreply 54003/30/2019

Don’t forget good looking, r540...

by Anonymousreply 54103/30/2019

He also has a catchy designer name: Sebastian Grey.

I think that Sebastian is his real name from his South American heritage, but Could Grey possibly be his married name? I see a wedding band on his finger.

by Anonymousreply 54203/30/2019

Isn't there a Sebastian Grey design studio that specializes in menswear? He should just go by "Sebastian."

by Anonymousreply 54303/30/2019

Who was the model that Nina said was so gorgeous?

by Anonymousreply 54403/30/2019

[quote]I can definitely see Sebastian being plucked by one of the big design houses after the show finishes.

And, I only agree with this because I want him to REALLY learn the business of fashion rather than just the creative aspects of it. 17 seasons of Project Runway and the only breakout star has been Christian Siriano? C'mon now! I don't know how this program and contestants are viewed in the fashion industry but in my mind this is a once in a lifetime opportunity! This Sebastian guy has "IT" and what a story he has to tell! An immigrant housekeeper that becomes a world-renowned name? The potential here!

by Anonymousreply 54503/30/2019

Afa ranks up near the top. Was surprised to see he has a wife and baby back in Samoa.

by Anonymousreply 54603/30/2019

Afa’s look last week in the team challenge was good. That down comforter the week before was suspect.

by Anonymousreply 54703/30/2019

[quote] Who was the model that Nina said was so gorgeous?

She was the African looking model who resembles Alek Wek.

by Anonymousreply 54803/30/2019

It did take me by surprise that on an all winners season you still got a sob story of one of them struggling financially in a really bad way. How far back was Michelle's win?

by Anonymousreply 54903/30/2019

[quote]How far back was Michelle's win?

In 2013. 100k after taxes can go surprisingly fast, and making money as a independent designer in fashion is very hard. Why do you think all these previous winners have returned to Runway? They need the money.

by Anonymousreply 55003/30/2019

HATE Kovid. So annoying.

by Anonymousreply 55103/30/2019

[quote]Why is everyone covering up their shoes with fabric now?

I was wondering the exact same thing. I guess it's in style, but I don't see anyone walking the streets like that.

by Anonymousreply 55203/30/2019

It was supposed to be a head to toe editorial print look challenge

by Anonymousreply 55303/30/2019


I've seen them do the last challenge or two as well.

by Anonymousreply 55403/30/2019

Where can I see the final designs of each episode like r524 has posted? I go to Bravo’s website and can’t seem to find the photos.

by Anonymousreply 55503/30/2019

R555 The images are in the recap blogs. You gotta click on the episode and at the bottom underneath the heading "Episode Exclusives" there is a link to the recap of the episode. Tom and Lorenzo also have the images on their website.

by Anonymousreply 55603/31/2019

By the way that she was carrying on morning, noon and night, I get the feeling that we only saw a sliver of Nadine’s stank attitude. She was probably a nightmare.

by Anonymousreply 55703/31/2019

I loved how Nadine lashed out at Hester and told her to get back to work when Tessa was trying to distract her during the group challenge.

Loved it!

by Anonymousreply 55803/31/2019

Thank you r556

by Anonymousreply 55903/31/2019

I loved that too, r558. Both of those gals deserved that and more. Tessa’s win in the first week seems to have brought out her inner bitch, and Hester’s behavior during that challenge was inexcusable, from her insistence at Mood to her begging for fabric that she cut up and didn’t use. I can’t stand either of them...

by Anonymousreply 56003/31/2019

I'm liking this season more with each episode. Thank god for Sebastian - it's so refreshing to have someone to root for who is both talented and hot AF! They gave Hester a sympathy edit but I'm still not a fan of her as a person. You dress like a toddler and then wonder why people find you and your designs strange? Maybe it's actually just your neurotic, high-strung personality! I did like her outfit better than Kovid's though. Why the hell would anyone wear a mask like that? I've hated everything he's made so far and he needs to tone the "giddy schoolgirl" act way, way down.

I actually liked Garo's outfit, glad he will stick around. At least he has an interesting point of view. I don't know why retro is ok for some designers but an 80s-inspired look is so terrible?

Nadine brought the drama and they didn't keep her around longer than necessary - that's the best kind of villain, in my book.

Finally, about this stylist, Marni...I don't get her personal aesthetic at all, and find her taste suspect. But she seems like a kind and positive person. Did I understand it right that she will visit the workroom for some of the other challenges as well?

by Anonymousreply 56103/31/2019

[quote]Why the hell would anyone wear a mask like that?


by Anonymousreply 56203/31/2019

The designers should style their own looks

by Anonymousreply 56303/31/2019

r562 Except those masks don't do shit against pollution as most polluting particles are so small, they pass easily through the cloth. It's just a placebo thing and they're weird people. When I asked someone familiar with their culture why they wear masks, they said it's because they're sick and they don't want to pass sickness to others out of politeness. Which is obvious bullshit as well, because it would mean half the country is constantly sick.

It's just one of those extra weird cultural idiosyncrasies, like gun worship in the US.

by Anonymousreply 56403/31/2019

I think some of those masks are effective a removing pollutants..if you've ever been to China or Thailand you kind of understand their delusion. It makes them feel better. However I still hated Kovid's mask and I hate they way he is being is such a pander to think we will just love Kovid's exuberance!

by Anonymousreply 56503/31/2019

The challenge was about making an editorial look, not a ready to wear look. That mask was a smart addition.

by Anonymousreply 56603/31/2019

In Asia people wear masks for either pollution or some scary pandemic like chicken flu. Whether they actually work or not is beside the point when it's more about making the public believe that wearing a mask keeps them save.

by Anonymousreply 56703/31/2019

[quote] I still hated Kovid's mask and I hate they way he is being is such a pander to think we will just love Kovid's exuberance!

But, he's so happy! He is happy to live in the USA! He is happy that he is free to be gay! He is happy that he is in a relationship! He is happy to be in NYC! He is happy that he is on Project Runway! He is happy that he is still in the competition! He just SO happy!!!!


by Anonymousreply 56803/31/2019

Christian said that Beyoncé’s stylist (barf) is going to stick around. So I guess we’ll see more face masks and fanny packs.

by Anonymousreply 56903/31/2019

Kovid's mask would have worked better visually with some better fitted elastic band or a boning structure (giving it better shape) making it look more professional instead of a flimsy cloth or napkin. But then what can you expect in one day? The idea itself was genius through for an editorial look.

by Anonymousreply 57003/31/2019

At least the mask drew the eye away from that mess of a garment! I'm still waiting for Kovid to impress. Seriously, it may be "editorial" but would anyone buy that massive plaid atrocity?

by Anonymousreply 57103/31/2019

Oh yeah, the fanny pack...I forgot about that. So Jazzercise isn't cool now but fucking fanny packs are????

by Anonymousreply 57203/31/2019

Yeah, the fanny pack, as styling choice, bothered me more than the mask. I was like WTF? Why the hell was this on the accessory wall in the first place? Is Bravo even frau-ier than Lifetime?

by Anonymousreply 57303/31/2019

Nadine was such an over-the-top cunt I thought I was watching Drag Race. My favorite moment was when she referred to the judges as “them bitches.”

by Anonymousreply 57403/31/2019

[quote] My favorite moment was when she referred to the judges as “them bitches.”

Well, she wasn't wrong about that.

by Anonymousreply 57503/31/2019

I agree with poster who said they should be doing their own styling. It’s all part of the look! No help with fabric choices no help with accessories. Those two things determine taste level.

by Anonymousreply 57603/31/2019

I’m not a fan a Kovid. I’ve said before he looks like a nervous Chihuahua, and I don’t care for his monotone accent.

by Anonymousreply 57703/31/2019

This thread is almost full already. Are you enjoying giving the Kushner girl ratings and supporting the evil empire?

by Anonymousreply 57803/31/2019

So, how is this program/competition viewed by the fashion industry? Does anyone know?

by Anonymousreply 57903/31/2019

[quote]So, how is this program/competition viewed by the fashion industry? Does anyone know?

I suppose it's not good. A dated article, but....

[quote]Former Project Runway contestants always seem to try to distance themselves from the show after they go out into the world on their own. Christian Siriano has been dealing with Project Runway demons for years, and Rami Kashou, who was on the show twice (and most recently ousted on the Project Runway All-Stars season) told us: "But it’s a game show, it’s nothing more to me. It’s produced." And according to fashion industry insiders, if you want a career as a fashion designer, you'd best distance yourself from reality TV fashion, too.

by Anonymousreply 58003/31/2019

That stylist seems like a nice person but I would have no use for her. Loathe that beyond person so whatever.

She actually shouldn’t be helping them to style, the styling makes or breaks an outfit sometimes and we need to see what the designers‘ aesthetic is.

That picnic outfit was a monstrosity. Sebastian should have won again.

Notice, too, that this is the second designer that goes home because they had a “plus” sized model. The rest need to get a clue that these models are here to stay and that, yes, indeed, you need to work with all types of bodies, like it or not.

by Anonymousreply 58103/31/2019

The mask was not genius. If it was, it was Marni Senofonte's genius. It was her idea. I'm with R570. It needed more structure. It was too big, it was strangely shaped and not in a good way. Though I thought Kovid used his print very successfully.

Sebastian should have won again. Hester even gave her model one of her dumb hats. It's like they gave it to Hester because they can't have one person so obviously out front this early on.

by Anonymousreply 58203/31/2019

Yeah, if this were a 100% legit competition based only on the judges' opinion of fashion, it would certainly be theoretically possible for the same person to win week after week right from the start until the end, but you're never going to see that on a show that has a reality show element to it.

And if you don't believe me that there is funny business going on with these shows (not that anyone here is that naive), here is the disclaimer that appears at the end of each episode:

"Winning and elimination decisions were made by the Judges in consultation with the producers. Some elimination decisions were discussed with Bravo."

by Anonymousreply 58303/31/2019

Yes, every reality show has the same disclaimer.

Amusingly enough for some Project Runway trivia, the two designers who won the most challenges in a season did not win their season.

Both Daniel V and Emilio won 5 episodes each, but lost at Fashion Week.

by Anonymousreply 58403/31/2019

Oh, yes, everyone does it, 584. Didn't mean to suggest Bravo competition shows were somehow unique in that regard. But people do have to keep in mind that producer influence is a possibility. You can't take these shows too seriously.

by Anonymousreply 58503/31/2019

Tim Gunn never actually touched the design and gave advice on specifically what to do. This week, that Marni was totally hands on. That's not fair and should be eliminated. Let the designers figure out their own design problems.

by Anonymousreply 58603/31/2019

R586 I felt the same way about that bit at mood where Christian told Rakan not to use that fabric. Though it didn't really change anything since he decided to buy it anyway.

by Anonymousreply 58703/31/2019

R587 I agree. Christian also warned that team that they had too much blue, and that it looked too bridesmaid. Still, they purchased blue. At that moment, I thought he was overstepping.

by Anonymousreply 58803/31/2019

I totally loved Hester's outfit, and I'm glad she won. I still think she is annoying, but she pulled a rabbit out of hat for this challenge.

by Anonymousreply 58903/31/2019

Christian only won because of producer intervention. During his season, the prom dress challenge should have sent him home but they picked someone else whose dress wasn't nearly as bad.

by Anonymousreply 59004/01/2019

R547, the comforter was designed by Jamal (the OTHER puffy brown guy), not Afa. So far, he’s been lackluster, while Afa has stood out.

by Anonymousreply 59104/01/2019

[quote]Tim Gunn never actually touched the design and gave advice on specifically what to do.

Because he couldn't. Tim may have been in that world at one point, but he was a relic. He could not give advice because he didn't know what advice to give. I love me some Tim, but no one who wanted to win ever listened to him. Christian and Marni can actually look at a piece and explain why it's not working because they know what's going on with fashion.

by Anonymousreply 59204/01/2019

I stopped watching when the show went to Lifetime. I'm glad that they got rid of the model competition aspect from the early seasons since that never made any sense to me. Although it did crack me up when Heidi would say, "This models, also, for you, is a competition for you as well, too!"

I also like that we get to see the judges do an up-close, hands-on inspection of the garments before making their decision. I don't recall them doing that on camera back when Christian was a competitor.

by Anonymousreply 59304/01/2019

What do we have to do to get hot makeup daddy Scott Patric back on Bravo?

by Anonymousreply 59404/01/2019

r593 they have been doing that for years on lifetime. They would send the designers away and look at the models up close. I always enjoyed Heidi looking at a shitty job and going "it looks home sewn"

by Anonymousreply 59504/01/2019

The looking at the designs up close started when Posen came on as a judge. He started doing that which Gunn thought was unfair since the designers were unaware it was happening, so they compromised and made it an official part of the show so the designers would be prepared that it will happen.

by Anonymousreply 59604/01/2019

Zac was so useless and dull. I'm not exactly a fan of Brandon either, but at least he doesn't put me to sleep. For the last few seasons of Lifetime, I would zone out about halfway through and never finish watching.

by Anonymousreply 59704/01/2019


You're an idiot & ageist. Just because someone's older doesn't mean they're out of touch. Many of the biggest names in fashion are older than 50.

Age does not keep someone from knowing not only where fashion came from but also where it's going.

by Anonymousreply 59804/01/2019

Tim's mentor ship role was to either help the designer to calm the fuck down or, for ratings, to doubt himself (and go into a different direction with not much time left). He rarely gave actual advice about which fabric to use and where to use it in the design.

A good mentor gives you "You may not believe in yourself right now, but I believe in you!" or "do you really think this is the right direction to go with this?" "You be you, stand by what you create!", "just be prepared for the judges will have a lot of questions for you (and very likely not like your design)".

by Anonymousreply 59904/01/2019

New thread.

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