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—Official— Project Runway Bravo Reboot thread

Didn’t wanna derail the All Stars 7 thread. Now that the promo and designers are out, let’s discuss.

by Anonymousreply 225Yesterday at 6:10 AM

Project Runway - White males need not apply.

by Anonymousreply 102/03/2019

Ugh. “...inclusion of plus-size models”

by Anonymousreply 202/03/2019

The Colombian dude is cute. As is Garo. Of course the girl from Nashville is wearing that hat like she’s going to Coachella 2012.

by Anonymousreply 302/03/2019

Is the hot makeup daddy returning?

by Anonymousreply 402/10/2019

Not a reboot.

God, I wish people would learn what "reboot" actually means.

by Anonymousreply 502/10/2019

I liked the plus sized models. It really separates the men from the boys, especially if they want to work in today’s market.

Even Rihanna isn’t a size 4.

by Anonymousreply 602/10/2019

If it looks like a reboot and sounds like a reboot...

by Anonymousreply 702/10/2019

Nina got a promotion

by Anonymousreply 802/10/2019

Nina Garcia is having a prophylactic double mastectomy (she has the BRCA gene.)

by Anonymousreply 902/10/2019

.....

by Anonymousreply 1003/09/2019

Hopefully this means a gay guy will finally win now that the show is no longer on frau central Lifetime.

by Anonymousreply 1103/09/2019

is there any update on Chris March/season 4 health?

by Anonymousreply 1203/10/2019

No Tim = no go.

by Anonymousreply 1303/10/2019

[quote] Hopefully this means a gay guy will finally win now that the show is no longer on frau central Lifetime.

It's true, PR was on Lifetime for 9 seasons and a man only won three times, seasons 10, 13 and 16. Women were twice as likely to win on Lifetime.

by Anonymousreply 1403/10/2019

Not if you count the All Stars seasons, men won almost all of them. But people try to ignore that fact when they go on their silly conspiracy theory.

Guys only won 8 seasons on Lifetime, it's a conspiracy!!!!!!

It's such a made up complaint, there are plenty of real things to bitch about with runway.

by Anonymousreply 1503/10/2019

Another ugh for plus sized models. It skews the judging.

by Anonymousreply 1603/10/2019

I'm watching a rerun of the Christian Sirano-Jillian-Chris March-Rami season right now on Bravo, complete with Kors. It really was a lot more focussed back then. Tim spent more time critiquing the designs and offering suggestions.

by Anonymousreply 1703/10/2019

Karlie Kloss is gross. She looks like a monster.

by Anonymousreply 1803/10/2019

R12 As of last July he was in a medical facility in N. Cal. undergoing rehab. He’s been hospitalized for months and has tons of medical bills. Sounds like he had a stroke? (right arm and both legs paralyzed) and kidney failure which may or may not be resolved.

by Anonymousreply 1903/10/2019

Christian's season was my favorite. So fun and a very talented group on the whole. Loved all the finalists.

by Anonymousreply 2003/10/2019

Poor Chris March! Paralyzed and still recovering. Too bad some of his rich friends or clients don’t step up and pay the 100k to reach his GoFundMe goal. To think someone paid R. Kelly’s 160k child support that was in arrears makes me sick and shows how screwed up the world is.

by Anonymousreply 2103/11/2019

It looks like that apart from Real World challenges they are doing away with models of different sizes, which is a shame, because that really separated the men from the boys, so to speak. And if you are a Christian Siriano or a Michael Costello who can created fashion for a Heidi Klum AND a Queen Latifah you will have a better chance at a real business.

But there are trans models, so progress?

by Anonymousreply 2203/13/2019

r22 That's really disappointing re: different-sized models. Not a good first impression.

Can't wait for this to start as I've skipped the last All Stars altogether. Milano and Chapman together is just too much for me. When does that new show with Heidi and Tim premiere?

by Anonymousreply 2303/13/2019

In a few days.

by Anonymousreply 2403/13/2019

Of course a designer should be able to create fashion for all sizes, but in a runway competition, the models should all have similar frames so as to not skew the judging of the design, imo...

by Anonymousreply 2503/13/2019

Funnily, during the regular shows of the last real season the designers who got the thinnest models didn’t necessarily make better outfits or make their models look better week by week than the designers who drew the regular sized or plus sized ones.

I hope the trans model thing is for a gender non-conforming week and not a regular thing.

by Anonymousreply 2603/13/2019

But when they have such a short time to design, fit, and sew a garment, throwing different size models into the mix is just easy way to screw with the contestants. Then the judges get to complain about the fit of the crotch or whatever.

I wonder how the new season will address the inherent schizophrenia of the show: win weekly competitions with cutting edge designs vs very commercial sponsors looking for mall clothes.

by Anonymousreply 2703/14/2019

People are counting down to the premiere on Twitter. Seems like they're really excited for this. Though I doubt anyone among them is excited about Karlie Kloss and her Trump connection.

by Anonymousreply 2803/14/2019

This starts in ten minutes, right?

by Anonymousreply 2903/14/2019

I agree r25. The models of different sizes is a weird thing in this type of competition setting. I am glad the reboot isn't carrying it over.

by Anonymousreply 3003/14/2019

Show me one designer who was in the bottom because [italic]and only because[/italic] their design wasn't flattering to the plus-size model. Never happened; they always took other aspects into consideration so as not to be unfair.

by Anonymousreply 3103/14/2019

R31 types plus sized...

by Anonymousreply 3203/14/2019

Showing the Season 5 finale, oh Korto. She came in 2nd place three damn times.

by Anonymousreply 3303/14/2019

r32 I'm a thin homo but I hate how this show pretends these people will design for runways only and not for actual fraus, who are more likely than not plus-sized.

by Anonymousreply 3403/14/2019

Not feeling Maxwell and his stupid oversized glasses already.

by Anonymousreply 3503/14/2019

Not digging Karlie in the first five minutes.

by Anonymousreply 3603/14/2019

"Christian Siriano is your mentor for this season" - Whut? So he's here for one season only? Is he hedging his bets in case the first season bombs?

by Anonymousreply 3703/14/2019

I need TG.

by Anonymousreply 3803/14/2019

Karlie's voice is fake and annoying. It's a fake freak how.

by Anonymousreply 3903/14/2019

r39 So fucking fake. Where did she buy that accent?!

by Anonymousreply 4003/14/2019

Christian is so natural at this; must be the confidence from his business spilling over.

That Indian designer is balding and has a tragic combover, but other than that is the cutest thing ever.

by Anonymousreply 4103/14/2019

Korto was my favorite for that season. No one mentioned the necklaces she made, they were fabulous.

How many designers are there??? It's a cast of thousands.

by Anonymousreply 4203/14/2019

Oh, here we go with the religious exemptions... Does that bitch know the guys are mostly all homos? No problem with that?

by Anonymousreply 4303/14/2019

Are you straight? *busts out laughing*

At least it led to that exchange.

Giving them two days for the challenge I see.

by Anonymousreply 4403/14/2019

Is Swatch still...

by Anonymousreply 4503/14/2019

"250 is not enough money"

"I've never had this much money to spend on one garment!"

Some producer was very happy with those two interviews.

by Anonymousreply 4603/14/2019

Mixed dorm rooms? I can't stand wearing pajamas so that would never work for me.

by Anonymousreply 4703/14/2019

The new workroom has such pleasant, natural lighting.

Hester might be getting the loser or the winner edit, I'm not sure yet.

by Anonymousreply 4803/14/2019

[quote]The new workroom has such pleasant, natural lighting.

Yeah I do love the new work room.

by Anonymousreply 4903/14/2019

Can't wait to hear Christian's feedback.

by Anonymousreply 5003/14/2019

What was that comment with the subtitles?

by Anonymousreply 5103/14/2019

r51 She joked, "It's a competition now, better take your hands off me."

by Anonymousreply 5203/14/2019

I will never get used to seeing ads for friggin' [italic]bipolar disorder[/italic] medication on your TV.

by Anonymousreply 5303/14/2019

Kapoor is so goofy and handsome, I'm smitten.

Christian's comments are so on point, omg.

by Anonymousreply 5403/14/2019

I miss Tim. Christian may be talented but at this game he's a lightweight. His critiques were wan.

Karlie is a genetic freak.

The squealy Indian guy is getting on my nerves.

Frankie needs to leave. Ditto the goofball white girl.

by Anonymousreply 5503/14/2019

First emotional breakdown of the season!

Kapoor's backstory was heartbreaking. Just keep on being joyous, dear.

by Anonymousreply 5603/14/2019

“Maybelline makeup studio.” Lol.

by Anonymousreply 5703/14/2019

r55 But didn't Christian tell that one contestant how she could salvage her design?

by Anonymousreply 5803/14/2019

The voices are so annoying and affected.

by Anonymousreply 5903/14/2019

Cavanagh is a goner, isn't she?

by Anonymousreply 6003/14/2019

The trans model is creepy looking. Yeah, I said it.

by Anonymousreply 6103/14/2019

Plus size meltdown girl is going home.

by Anonymousreply 6203/14/2019

Only a few contestants are getting focus this ep. Indian guy (kavid?), Cavanaugh, and Frankie.

Winner and bottom two?

by Anonymousreply 6303/14/2019

Sorry but does the trans model still have twig and berries? Does the designer have enough fabric to cover or tuck that?

by Anonymousreply 6403/14/2019

Kavanagh is the newest villain; she'll be around for a while.

by Anonymousreply 6503/14/2019

Plus size meltdown girl doesn’t even have a van to live in down by the river. She can’t go home cuz she ain’t got one!

by Anonymousreply 6603/14/2019

Chritian may be a wonderful designer but he is no Tim Gunn. Tim is the perfect mentor. I don't know WTF Christian is doing. He should've stuck with being a judge.

by Anonymousreply 6703/14/2019

I hate the clown girl

by Anonymousreply 6803/14/2019

Yeah, being emotionally supportive doesn't come naturally to Christian like it does to Tim. His attempts to comfort Frankie were fairly business like and didn't have much warmth r67. Not hating on him, I'd be the same way, but it is a big change from what we are used to with Gunn.

by Anonymousreply 6903/14/2019

That was a metric fucktonne of train right there.

by Anonymousreply 7003/14/2019

Fuck these people for trying to ram fat models down our throats. Ditto for the creepy trans.

by Anonymousreply 7103/14/2019

Who just said "that's the going home look right there" to her neighbor? Was it cavanaugh?

by Anonymousreply 7203/14/2019

Or did I mishear that?

by Anonymousreply 7303/14/2019

r72 What? Someone actually said that?!

by Anonymousreply 7403/14/2019

I thought I heard it, but now I'm not sure. It was when the bathing suit went down the runway.

by Anonymousreply 7503/14/2019

YAS to the rest of the designers watching the critiques on TV!

by Anonymousreply 7603/14/2019

Someone said that to Cavanaugh r72. Not sure who.

by Anonymousreply 7703/14/2019

R46 that made me laugh. The girl was so happy to have $250!

by Anonymousreply 7803/14/2019

Christian doesn't have a lot of presence. Tim is tall, with a deep, concerned voice.

by Anonymousreply 7903/14/2019

R72, I was listening pretty closely and didn't hear that comment but maybe I just missed it.

by Anonymousreply 8003/14/2019

“She looked strong and confident on the runway and that’s all that matters”

Really? So the outfit can look like shit but that doesn’t matter if the model is a good actress?

I’m not impressed by this male designer judge.

by Anonymousreply 8103/14/2019

That was the most vicious "however" from Nina in the history of this show.

by Anonymousreply 8203/14/2019

Oh Jesus send this Frankie home STAT.

by Anonymousreply 8303/14/2019

I heard the "going home look" comment. It was probably spliced in from a confessional.

by Anonymousreply 8403/14/2019

Look at the schmattes this Brandon Maxwell's slinging at Neiman's.

by Anonymousreply 8503/14/2019

I adore Renee's look.

by Anonymousreply 8603/14/2019

Brandon Maxwell is trying to be Michael Kors.

by Anonymousreply 8703/14/2019

Ugh, I have the sneaking suspicion Frankie will live to see another seam ripper.

by Anonymousreply 8803/14/2019

It would be great if both Cav and Frankie were sent home. Cull the herd!

by Anonymousreply 8903/14/2019

Frankie was a loser, period. The initial design was a lousy concept, never mind her unexpectedly Gargantuan model.

by Anonymousreply 9003/14/2019

Frankie’s model hates her LOL

by Anonymousreply 9103/14/2019

R85, $1700 for a pink wrap top, polyester and nylon.

by Anonymousreply 9203/14/2019

But they’ll keep her because social justice...

by Anonymousreply 9303/14/2019

Tessa, youre kidding

by Anonymousreply 9403/14/2019

Agreed, R87. There's only one problem, this one has not a scintilla of wit or a sense of humor.

by Anonymousreply 9503/14/2019

Nina loves them straps so of course Tessa won.

by Anonymousreply 9603/14/2019

I didn't like cavanaugh at all but Frankie really should've lost. Her outfit was shit

by Anonymousreply 9703/14/2019

Eh Frankie should have gone. That was really tasteless, and to me that crosses a line that beats bland every time.

by Anonymousreply 9803/14/2019

So we're going down the pc path, eh? Should make for a boring season.

by Anonymousreply 9903/14/2019

One vocal fry down.

by Anonymousreply 10003/14/2019

But, but, but......social justice

by Anonymousreply 10103/14/2019

So that weird Asian half-bow is the new Auf?

by Anonymousreply 10203/14/2019

R99 I don’t know if you’re referring to the race of the women (dipshit if you are), but even though I disagree with who was auf’ed, they always eliminate the bland look over the messy look.

by Anonymousreply 10303/14/2019

[quote] they always eliminate the bland look over the messy look.

Exactly. The look was nothing, it had no design to it. That is automatically the look they want to eliminate.

by Anonymousreply 10403/14/2019

Renee was robbed. Her look was gorgeous & was definitely a hark back to the photo inspiration. Not to mention she was styled impeccably.

by Anonymousreply 10503/14/2019

r105 I'm thinking it was too expensive to produce.

by Anonymousreply 10603/14/2019

Whrn the guy told Brandon Maxwell that he was inspired by the balloons in the background in the picture of Brandon’s mother, I laughed

by Anonymousreply 10703/14/2019

Frankie stayed because she cried, period. Won’t somebody think of the stone cold bitches?

by Anonymousreply 10803/14/2019

I miss Tim! When is his new show coming out?

by Anonymousreply 10903/14/2019

I think the PC comments refer to the “curvy” models and the creepy “trans woman” (who made a whole little inspiring speech to the Indian guy who squealed with delight throughout.) Because we’re all supposed to loooove fat (oops, I mean CURVY) women and trannies.

by Anonymousreply 11003/14/2019

Is Renee the Muslim woman? I liked her look, the winning look(Tessa?), the guy from Brazil’s look and the guy with the rhyming name’s look(Gary something?)

by Anonymousreply 11103/14/2019

Sorry, the guy from Columbia, Jhoan, and Garo Sparo...^^^

by Anonymousreply 11203/14/2019

I didn't mind it, but the shrieking Indian guy can go next.

by Anonymousreply 11303/14/2019

"Don't worry that's going home right there" is what Nadine said to Cavanagh about Frankie's outfit.

Rude AND wrong

by Anonymousreply 11403/14/2019

Brandon Maxwell seems like the gayest guy in high school...."winner winner chicken dinner "? Really ?..Ugh.

by Anonymousreply 11503/14/2019

R114, it was the worst outfit seen in many years.

by Anonymousreply 11603/14/2019

The Bravo reboot is nothing. They should have left it for dead at Lifetime.

by Anonymousreply 11703/14/2019

The "Woke" version.

by Anonymousreply 11803/14/2019

These clothes are hideous.

And who is the deplorable in here and why are you watching this show? Go watch duck dynasty with it all.

by Anonymousreply 11903/14/2019

I had to laugh at how easy Cavanagh made it for the producers to give her that edit. She just kept playing right into their hands with every comment up until her last line. I hope the designers were just off their game in the first episode because the average look seemed substandard.

by Anonymousreply 12003/14/2019

Yeah, the show itself looks better, with a bigger budget and production values, but the clothes were almost uniformly awful.

by Anonymousreply 121Last Friday at 12:20 AM

Is it all filmed in Brooklyn?

by Anonymousreply 122Last Friday at 1:53 AM

I think it has been for years, except for the obligatory Mood visits.

New, brighter sets, longer sew time but not much improvement otherwise. Brandon Maxwell tries to be Kors and he was off putting for some reason, the other woman (editor of Teen Vogue) was better but twice said she'd wear someone's garment. Karlie Kloss speaks too fast. That was one thing about Heidi, she speaks slowly and with emphasis when talking to the designers. Sirano seems on par with the other non-Tim-Gunn mentors. First episode so this could all shake out as it continues but I was expecting more of a shake up.

by Anonymousreply 123Last Friday at 2:15 AM

I really loved this new version of PR.

And I disagree about the quality of the designs. I thought that many of them were outstanding.

I think that Renee was absolutely robbed. Tessa's dress with the hanging straps from the back, was just alright. It was nothing special

Frankie most definitely should have gone home instead of Kavenaugh. This is exactly the kind of bullshit which has made the show lose credibility over the years. Anyone with eyes could have seen that Frankie's horrible blue monstrosity deserved to go home, regardless of whether or not Kavenaugh was uptight and bitchy. Her garment was still better than Frankie's.

I thought that the Indian guy Kovid was sweet. He and his boyfriend are cute, and it was nice that he has the trans model. It's a perfect pairing.

However, as far as hotness, I think that Garo and Sebastian (the housekeeper) are the hottest guys. I actually have quite a crush on Sebastian.

by Anonymousreply 124Last Friday at 4:07 AM

[quote]Her garment was still better than Frankie's.

Her outfit was better made, but it literally had no point of a view, it was as generic as generic gets. Cavanaugh recognized that herself, when the person tells her Frankie's outfit is the one going home she replies "At least she tried to do something"

by Anonymousreply 125Last Friday at 4:14 AM

How did Karlie Kushner get this job? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

by Anonymousreply 126Last Friday at 4:17 AM

Her name is Karlie Kushner-Trump, R126.

Get it straight.

by Anonymousreply 127Last Friday at 4:19 AM

I live in Nashville & we have a local noon show on one of the channels.

Cavanaugh was one of the guests yesterday. She came off so entitled & imperious. She was name dropping all the famous women she's dressed for the red carpets.

It was an immediate dislike for me. Seeing her Auf's last night was a delight.

by Anonymousreply 128Last Friday at 4:23 AM

R125 That was an insightful comment on her part which makes me wonder if she was deliberately trying to play it safe for the first few episodes and totally misjudged it. If she had picked another colour she might have managed to go under the judge's radar this week.

by Anonymousreply 129Last Friday at 4:27 AM

However sloppily it was made, I still found Frankie's strips more intriguing than Cavanaugh's nothing of a design. There was a freshness to it. Also, we're rid of the witch in the first episode already. I really don't need someone like her ruining the entire season, talent or no talent.

Like r124, I find the Colombian guy and Garo insanely attractive, thought I still can't quite tell them apart. Oh, to be caught in that sandwich, with Kapur giggling and cheering us on in the corner...

by Anonymousreply 130Last Friday at 4:33 AM

[quote] I find the Colombian guy and Garo insanely attractive, thought I still can't quite tell them apart.

"The Colombian guy" is named Sebastian. Sebastian Grey, oddly.

I have a feeling that most of these peoples' names are made up. Sebastian Grey, Garo Sparo, Hester Sunshine. Yeah, right.

by Anonymousreply 131Last Friday at 4:41 AM

She's married to Josh Kushner, R 127. Get it straight.

by Anonymousreply 132Last Friday at 4:43 AM

Karlie explained to Andy Cohen that even though Frankie’s outfit was a mess, it expressed a POV and creativity which is why she stayed and the blonde was sent home.

Karlie may have connections but she’s also a top fashion model with ten years of experience. So she isn’t just a nepotism hire. At least they didn’t hire a Kardashian to host the show.

Christian knows that “there’s no crying in fashion” which is why he doesn’t dry any tears. I appreciate his “Get it together or get out” approach to being a mentor.

by Anonymousreply 133Last Friday at 6:39 AM

Tim started hugging the designers because Lifetime loved that sappy shit. But it's just not how real life works. Do [italic]your[/italic] coworkers huddle around you and console you and hug you when you're feeling stressed?

by Anonymousreply 134Last Friday at 6:44 AM

I spot a MTF in the bottom row

by Anonymousreply 135Last Friday at 6:47 AM

R134

Tim is a very warm person but that's not why he's superior to CS in my opinion. Tim gives actual critique guides them to think about the challenge & a different direction.

CS offered none of that. He's more suited to be a judge than the mentor.

Shit! We would actually see Tim examine the fabric & design. CS just seemed to amble around.

by Anonymousreply 136Last Friday at 6:51 AM

The TLo recap. Them doing recaps of Project Runway again takes me back.

by Anonymousreply 137Last Friday at 7:58 AM

R108, Frankie stayed because she's FAT.

by Anonymousreply 138Last Friday at 7:58 AM

I hated Brandon Maxwell but not as much as the abysmal Karlie Kloss. She talks like a fun teenage girl.

by Anonymousreply 139Last Friday at 8:50 AM

R 138, and a black female.

by Anonymousreply 140Last Friday at 10:23 AM

That cottage cheese ass in that monstrosity of straps is all the argument needed against plus sized models.. yikes!....can’t be unseen...

by Anonymousreply 141Last Friday at 11:44 AM

[quote] Tim is a very warm person but that's not why he's superior to CS in my opinion. Tim gives actual critique guides them to think about the challenge & a different direction. CS offered none of that. He's more suited to be a judge than the mentor.

I agree 100%, R136!

Christian was just wandering around the workroom, looking lost. He was like, "does anyone need help? does anyone need help?" Hello! He should be there OFFERING a critique, and not asking if anyone WANTS one.

The reason Tim was a better mentor is because 1) He's an actual teacher. So he actually talks about technique. 2) He has years and YEARS of experience. And 3) Tim guided them along, and didn't tell them what to do. These are all qualities of a good mentor.

by Anonymousreply 142Last Friday at 3:32 PM

Christian should have taken the initiative and gone from one designer to the other in a systematic fashion, that's correct. But it's the first episode so let's cut him some slack. Pedagogical and mentorship skills take time to develop. Also, those critiques can be super annoying when you interrupt someone who's hard at work.

When it comes to Tim... let's be real for a moment. He's not a designer and never has been. He's also a bit long in the tooth to know what's in right now. Yes, he can offer perfectly usable technical critiques that pertain to taste and proportions, but to offer advice that's going to be helpful beyond the challenge at hand, in the fashion business, you need someone who's in the thick of it [italic]right now.[/italic] It's like receiving a lecture about the publishing business from someone who's never actually worked in the publishing trenches. It can be done (been there) but it's just not the optimal thing to offer to people. Why not go that extra mile if you can?

I really fail to grasp how people find Tim a better mentor than a designer currently at the top of his game.

by Anonymousreply 143Last Friday at 3:45 PM

R143

What a stupid post. Just because someone's older doesn't mean they aren't up on the latest trends. He is in the fashion business. He could discuss it from a historical perspective as well as what's happening now or what trends are leaning for in the future.

by Anonymousreply 144Last Friday at 3:51 PM

I guarantee you every person in that room would rather have Christian there than Tim Gunn. I like Tim, but it's the simple truth. Siriano is who they all are trying to become, those designers want to learn from him.

by Anonymousreply 145Last Friday at 3:55 PM

Are you beating up on Christian because he’s openly gay and successful? Because there’s only been one episode and these were his first on-camera moments. Was he nervous? Did they trim his scenes in order to give more air time to the Indian Guy, Frankie, the trans model, etc.?

Tim Gunn, as a trained teacher, is a “mentor” for a living. He has years of experience that Christian doesn’t have.

Oh well, let’s all just hate Christian too, I guess.

by Anonymousreply 146Last Friday at 4:00 PM

[quote] Siriano is who they all are trying to become, those designers want to learn from him.

I thought that they were trying to "become" THEMSELVES. Not a Christian Siriano clone.

I thought that design was about expressing YOUR OWN point of view, and not someone else's?

You sound dumb.

[quote] Are you beating up on Christian because he’s openly gay and successful?

You mean by choosing another openly gay and successful man (Tim Gunn) over him?

This has to be one of the most moronic statements I've ever read on Datalonge. And it REEKS of misdirected victimhood.

by Anonymousreply 147Last Friday at 4:10 PM

Gunn was more nuanced, but less specific. He made for a good foil to the uppity fashion archetype, and offered calmness in the face of high stakes competition.

Christian is more precise, to the point and less warm and fuzzy. But he still gets the job done and is entitled to put his own spin on the role. But I agree with the comment upthread that his strength is in his expertise on current fashion, and the fact that he is likable.

by Anonymousreply 148Last Friday at 4:26 PM

I wonder if they tried to keep just Tim, but he decided to stick with Heide. However much money he wanted would be worth it. She, on the other hand—no great loss.

by Anonymousreply 149Last Friday at 5:24 PM

The show is trying to be so diverse. How about having a straight male instead of that abortion Kushner? That would be revolutionary. Imagine that - a straight man amongst a sea of queens.

by Anonymousreply 150Last Friday at 7:32 PM

[quote] The show is trying to be so diverse

I'm perplexed by this statement.

"Diverse," as opposed to? Exactly what kind of show would you like to watch? The Hitler Youth designers, who are all blond haired and blue eyed?

by Anonymousreply 151Last Friday at 7:38 PM

No, fool. The show is trying to be diverse. That's a fact. But, they got a Heidi " clone" to be the host. If they wanted to be diverse, then they should go all the way.

by Anonymousreply 152Last Friday at 7:42 PM

Ivanka rooting on her sis....

by Anonymousreply 153Last Saturday at 5:57 AM

*shiver*

by Anonymousreply 154Last Saturday at 6:00 AM

R149

Yes they approached Tim but he refused. He said he & Heidi are a packaged deal. That's why he wouldn't be the mentor for Project Runway All Stars.

by Anonymousreply 155Last Saturday at 6:04 AM

I appreciate Tim's loyalty to Heidi.

She put him on the map.

by Anonymousreply 156Last Saturday at 12:08 PM

Someone's already crying in the first episode, give me a break. The rest was rather boring.

The days of "It's a motherfucking walk-off!" and "I don't care if you cry and cut. But you better cry and cut." are sadly gone.

by Anonymousreply 157Last Saturday at 3:06 PM

Hester is trying way too hard to be a character. Her design aesthetic seems to be "Lisa Frank vomiting in a Hot Topic".

by Anonymousreply 158Last Saturday at 3:21 PM

Why didn’t they want Heidi?

by Anonymousreply 159Last Saturday at 4:53 PM

Everybody likes some more complicated mystery, like most things, it was just about money.

Bravo wasn't willing to pay Gunn and Klum's hefty salary, so they went to Amazon who would pay them.

[quote]During a recent conference, Gunn revealed Bravo offered both him and Klum a nearly 60% lower salary for season 17 of Project Runway. So now, Gunn and Klum are developing a new series for Amazon.

by Anonymousreply 160Last Saturday at 5:21 PM

[quote]Frankie stayed because she's FAT.

[quote]R138, and a black female.

So R140, according to your logic, I guess Tessa only won because she's white? Because a lot of people on this board seemed to feel Renee was robbed. We could all play the race card to rationalize an outcome we disagree with.

by Anonymousreply 161Last Saturday at 5:53 PM

They should have just paid up. It’s not the same without them. Nina and Cristian are the only OG’s.

It’s still watchable but would have been much better with them.

by Anonymousreply 162Last Saturday at 6:11 PM

I liked the turban lady with round glasses garment. The rest was meh or less. But I sort of like Brandon Maxwell. "Winner winner chicken dinner!"

by Anonymousreply 163Last Saturday at 6:19 PM

Must we take sides? I liked Tim and I like Christian. I think the earlier poster was right in that it may take a few episodes for him to feel more comfortable. I miss his sense of humor from his winning season and I'm hoping it will return.

And can I address the elephant in the room? Did nobody want Zac Posen? I miss his creepy Eddie Munster suits.

by Anonymousreply 164Last Saturday at 6:48 PM

[Quote]And can I address the elephant in the room? Did nobody want Zac Posen?

Does this need to asked?

by Anonymousreply 165Last Saturday at 6:58 PM

[quote]CS offered none of that. He's more suited to be a judge than the mentor.

Christian has insights but they remain in his brain for himself to actualize; he has no ability (yet?) to get those insights into another person’s brain without speaking in results.

Tim was able to speak to the source of creativity as well as the particular designer’s aesthetic and voice. Christian offers options which, if the game is properly played, is a big no-no.

During, I think Frankie’s critique, he didn’t stop at advising to construct a simpler short due to time constraints, he actually told her to do something specific to the waistband - that’s not his place to say, and it can be argued he gave one contestant an unfair advantage by doing so.

Christian is brilliant at designing and instantly sees what is necessary to ‘make it work’, but his job is to coax the designer to see that for themselves.

Mentoring without puppeteering is its own unique talent that leans on experience, yes, but takes a certain way of seeing not just things, but others and their approach to the task, themselves, and everything outside of themselves.

by Anonymousreply 166Last Saturday at 7:34 PM

I'm an instant fan of Garo Sparo. His introductory look and his look for the challenge were excellent. ...and he's gorgeous and warmhearted. His real last name is longer and Italian. "Garo Sparo" is his brand. I hope he goes far, for all of the above reasons.

by Anonymousreply 167Last Saturday at 7:55 PM

Has Tim Gunn had sex yet?

by Anonymousreply 168Last Saturday at 8:06 PM

I HATED the feather dress, but I love that the guy is an accountant at a bank and this is his big shot at fame

by Anonymousreply 169Last Saturday at 8:08 PM

Tim was an excellent mentor in earlier seasons, but he became messy and unprofessional towards the end. He often showed up for work with bandages on his face after falling down drunk in his apartment. He also developed creepy romantic attachments to a few male designers, like that Indian guy, who Tim attacked when he showed no interest in Tim's flirting. I think Tim fell in love with a few of the men.

by Anonymousreply 170Last Saturday at 8:16 PM

R170

GMAFB!

by Anonymousreply 171Last Saturday at 8:29 PM

R170 is still going on and on about Swampnil.

Get over it, already!

by Anonymousreply 172Last Saturday at 9:06 PM

The episode bored me. I saw their designs on the Bravo Instagram before I watched, and almost all of them were really poor. Surprisingly poor designs.

I resent that Bravo hired a Kushner, too. People say that Jared’s brother has nothing to do with him, but the two of them just bought a shitload of apartment buildings together in the DC metro area. Any income received by either goes into the Kushner investment portfolio that funds their criminal empire. All of them are corrupt.

The only thing I will say is that when I look at the Kushner hostess, all I can see is Bjork, which is interesting to me because Bjork is Icelandic but has always looked Asian to me. I looked up the Kushner woman and it turns out she is Scandinavian, too—Danish—and so Bjork seems like less of an anomaly, despite her epicanthic folds.

by Anonymousreply 173Last Sunday at 4:04 AM

Tim's "mentoring" for the past several seasons on Lifetime has consisted of hugging and talking about feelings. Christian is a nice change from that, in that he came in, talked about clothes, and didn't show up for the judging.

by Anonymousreply 174Last Sunday at 5:07 AM

Karlie Kloss is married to a Kushner. If you watch this, you are supporting evil. Have fun with that.

by Anonymousreply 175Last Sunday at 5:16 AM

Were Kushners always evil? I thought Ivanka brought that into their lives.

by Anonymousreply 176Last Sunday at 5:17 AM

Do you really know nothing about Josh and Jared's father r176? Educate yourself.

by Anonymousreply 177Last Sunday at 5:18 AM

Nah, I'm not from the US, R177.

by Anonymousreply 178Last Sunday at 5:26 AM

The wonderful Kushner family.

by Anonymousreply 179Last Sunday at 5:34 AM

People like to say that Jared’s brother is liberal and is appalled by his participation with Trump and with antisemitism.

Jared’s brother is his business partner, and both of them are leveraging his anti-USA efforts for personal profits. This is their recent billion-dollar cash grab together.

by Anonymousreply 180Last Sunday at 6:24 AM

This is how the elite in the US operate. Poor brown people go to prison for 10 years to life for marijuana possession or petty theft; these billionaires run scams that actually hurt families, and then maybe go to jail for 18 months after and during which they benefit from ill-gotten profits in the hundreds of millions. 18 months in a resort prison is not a big price to pay for siphoning that much money off the backs of the poor illegally.

Bravo is rewarding the behavior. You can bet your bottom dollar that Andy Cohen and Anderson Cooper are cozy with Kushners.

“Charles Kushner is an American real estate developer. He founded Kushner Companies in 1985. In 2005, he was convicted of illegal campaign contributions, tax evasion, and witness tampering. He served 14 months in federal prison, and resumed his career in real estate after his release.”

by Anonymousreply 181Last Sunday at 6:28 AM

By always positioning Jared’s brother as disapproving, progressive and a private family man, the media help the Kushner companies by softening public disapproval. Without saying “but his brother resists!!” there’d be a lot more push back against the Kushner companies. This way, the Kushner demons get their cake (all the exploitation of White House business and networks) and eat it too (profits from their private company via “but Joshua is GOOD!” and Karlie Kloss good PR for the family.

by Anonymousreply 182Last Sunday at 6:32 AM

PLEASE! CAN'T WE JUST TALK ABOUT FROCKS?!!

by Anonymousreply 183Last Sunday at 7:01 AM

This reminds me of the Eurovision subreddit where people are begging to please focus on the music (it's set in Israel this year). Whether you want to admit it or not, you're financially supporting these people by watching this show. I'll watch the whole season but I'm not kidding myself - I am consciously supporting the Kushner criminal enterprise by doing so. Just like I'm supporting the Saudis and the Ruskies by using an ICE vehicle or anything made of petroleum. We do these trade-offs every single day, we just don't tend to think about them.

Anyway, I hope to see more colour and print from the designers going forward. Any particular reason why nearly everyone went for subdued?

by Anonymousreply 184Last Sunday at 8:03 AM

Look who is SO EXCITED to see her sister on Bravo!!!

by Anonymousreply 185Last Sunday at 11:43 AM

Sister in Law...how fucking gross! God I hate Ivanka.

Is it really so difficult to find a judge who has some personality? I mean there is Nina and everyone else. I have to fast forward through the cute Indian guy. He is fucking annoying. I agree Renee's outfit was superior and should have won. The black dude who did the feathers is really cute. I liked a lot of the men this first episode. Most of them seem pretty cool.

by Anonymousreply 186Last Sunday at 12:59 PM

My first impressions: . I wish Christian was the judge instead of Brandon, and I think Nick Verreos would have been a great mentor. But I will give Christian a chance because he's brand new to this, and it's going to take time for him to get comfortable, and to get to know the designers a little bit.

I'm not going to say they shouldn't have any plus sized models or trans models ever, but couldn't they at least get cute ones?

It's very early, but I was deeply underwhelmed by almost all the designs. Where is the imagination, the fantasy?

I found the Indian queen totally annoying and over the top. And I can't stand adults who dress like toddlers. Is she an adult baby? Yuck! . Frankie is also a bit over the top, but I had to laugh at how excited everyone was when she was safe. Nobody gave a fuck about Cavanaugh, lol (understandably, since she gave off major Reublicunt vibes).

Overall... I didn't love it, but I'll keep watching, at least for now.

by Anonymousreply 187Last Sunday at 2:58 PM

The Indian guy fled persecution in his home country while homosexuality was still criminalized, and is now understandably feeling like he can express himself freely. All of you bitching about him better be grateful you'll never have to go through that. And if you're a straight frau, you ought to be doubly ashamed of yourself.

by Anonymousreply 188Last Sunday at 3:06 PM

I’ll be live tweeing all season!!!

by Anonymousreply 189Last Sunday at 3:07 PM

KKK’s face looks like someone took Taylor Swift’s face, put it in a Cuisinart, and then smooshed it in a vice. I just can’t look at her, and her voice is no better.

I liked Renee’s design. Hester Kookypants is going to get really annoying really fast. Siriano was fine. The new set and workroom were an improvement. It may be a case of general reality competition show burnout.

by Anonymousreply 190Last Sunday at 4:13 PM

Just finished it.

Frankie's was hideous. Easily the worst of the night. Michael Kors wouldn't have given a fuck about her stupid tears and would've ripped her a new one for having absolutely no taste.

TBH, this would have been a great episode for a surprise double elimination. All that drama, then BAM. Both the crying mess and the bitch that played it safe get sent packing. Welcome to Project Runway.

by Anonymousreply 191Last Sunday at 6:16 PM

Frankie should have gone home. Not only was her look badly constructed, but she looked at a photo of a blue bathing suit and was inspired to create... a blue bathing suit. Where was the creativity?

by Anonymousreply 192Last Monday at 2:26 AM

Cool of Karlie to do her part and fill the Kushner coffers so that Jared, Josh and their criminal dad would have more money to invest in more slum apartments to keep that cash flowing in.

Normally a pretty face is just a pretty face, but Karlie Kloss Kushner is helping to make a real difference in the world!

by Anonymousreply 193Last Monday at 2:38 AM

Frankie’s outfit was by far the worse. Holy hell, who told her that was a good outfit??? Plus all the people who were helping her at the end??? Bullshit.

How the fuck do the designers not know he dimensions of their models??? The two at the bottom both made mistakes because the models were bigger. Don’t they get their sizes when they see who their model will be?

I hated that Kava-nope woman the minute she said she had never designed for a “larger” woman. And deservedly lost because of it.

That Frankie reminded me of that other stupid bitch. Silky whatever from RPDR.

by Anonymousreply 194Last Monday at 9:02 AM

Project Runway has lost its brutality/honesty in favor of social justice. It has been Lifetime-ized...

by Anonymousreply 195Last Monday at 10:18 AM

Renee Hill was the winner. And, what's this about 9 (NINE) kids????

by Anonymousreply 196Last Monday at 1:03 PM

Gorgeous!

by Anonymousreply 197Last Monday at 1:04 PM

Renee's look really set the bar high. It was a stunning look & beautifully styled.

She was miles ahead of everyone else.

by Anonymousreply 198Last Monday at 2:11 PM

And so modest.

by Anonymousreply 199Last Monday at 2:17 PM

Exquisite but I can't get behind her breeding like it's the 50's. Didn't Laura Bennett have around that many kids as well? I find myself judging women for that and I don't feel sorry doing it.

by Anonymousreply 200Last Monday at 2:19 PM

It's a blended family but it's still a lot of kids. Her marriage recently went kaput too.

by Anonymousreply 201Last Monday at 2:26 PM

It really should have been a double elimination, Frankie and that blond, bland, white cunt both needed to go. And yes, Renee really should have been the winner.

by Anonymousreply 202Last Monday at 2:26 PM

R202

You sound like an idiot. IDGAF how many kids she has. I'm just judging her clothes.

by Anonymousreply 203Last Monday at 4:11 PM

This is DL, dear. We judge the whole package here.

by Anonymousreply 204Last Monday at 4:24 PM

[quote]Didn't Laura Bennett have around that many kids as well?

Laura Bennett has 6. She was already a Mom of 5, and she found out she was pregnant again while filming Project Runway.

by Anonymousreply 205Last Monday at 4:29 PM

Here's the full episode for anyone who didn't get to watch it.

by Anonymousreply 206Last Monday at 4:57 PM

Renee Hill reminds me of the contestant Kara Saun who was a contestant on the very first season of PR.

by Anonymousreply 207Last Monday at 5:09 PM

I totally thought they were setting up the villain for the season... especially since she could construct her garment well, despite it being dull. And EVERY quote out of her was so bitchy.

Frankie's bathing suit was a mess. They also said she picked an inappropriate fabric, right from the get go. Another contestant said she wasn't on the same level as the rest of the others, foreshadowing her going home (so I thought). I was surprised she stayed.

I actually liked the "goddess" dress that the trans had on, but that one was just safe. It'll be interesting to see what else he does. They focused on him a lot so perhaps he'll be around for a while.

by Anonymousreply 208Last Monday at 5:22 PM

R208 In a normal season I think she would have been kept on as villian but I suspect that they would have felt that keeping a villian contestant over someone they gave a sympathy edit to would have been too much of a risk in the first episode of their revamped season. For us jaded old Project Runway viewers we know how this show works but newer viewers might have been made upset by the villian edit person making it through.

I felt Cavanagh was a goner as soon I saw that they included the sad story about her dad because at that point it seemed like the producers were milking her for all she's worth right before they let her go.

by Anonymousreply 209Last Monday at 5:53 PM

Now, here's my question: When a contestant is eliminated must they leave the living arrangements and return home?

by Anonymousreply 210Last Monday at 5:55 PM

So I didn't actually watch this for ages - the whole time it was on Lifetime. Drag Race had enough of the PR element in it to keep me happy too I guess. I didn't see the changes, but Tom and Lorenzo wrote a long thing about it that seems to go in line with the comments here.

Btw, the fact she was named Cavanagh was pretty funny. How can you be such a cunt like that on these shows and not realize people are going to hate you? The last time I remember a "snobby" sort of contestant - it was the one who said "upholstery fabric? Oh my. I only use higher quality fabrics..." and it was just his silly persona of being very special... but not a total bitch. Most people seemed to like him, and I thought he was entertaining (malan breton). This girl was just pure bitch. The only reason to cast her was to either let them have a villain or to kick her off.

by Anonymousreply 211Last Monday at 6:08 PM

Regarding the Kushners. They are such materialistic douchebags that for them conservative and liberal are just business markets and business opportunities they use to make money off. These people don't believe in any kind of moral values. They believe in making money no matter what. They work different demographics to make more money for their company (or combined portofolio) instead of competing against each other fighting over "market share" by working the same group of customers / business people.

Regarding the BRAVO reboot of Project Runway. So far I just don't like it. Heidi had charm and was fun. Karlie is just fake. CS has no screen presence. There is no real authority or confidence in his mannerism. He's just around like some extra who is just walking into the set by accident and comes up with timid dialogue on the fly. However I do like the diverse casting and at first I like Karlie appreciating being on the show, but as soon it was obvious that she's completely over her head it became uncomfortable to watch her and, according to the preview, she's not around for long since she wasn't in any of the scenes of the "this season on PR" preview. Kapor is a bit much, or extra, but he does have a compelling backstory. I am a bit shocked that the show got rid of Cavenaugh right away. She was such a character you would love to hate. They should've put Frankie out of her misery who is clearly out of her element.

by Anonymousreply 212Last Monday at 6:25 PM

{quote] at first I like Karlie appreciating being on the show,

I am sorry, I meant Frankie.

by Anonymousreply 213Last Monday at 6:27 PM

Does anyone watch Project Runway All Stars? I am still flabbergasted by how much they fucked up the recent challenge.

They're down to the final 5 and they have all won in previous seasons so these should not be idiots.

They were tasked with making a high end gown fit for a "royal ball?. They were given a larger than average dollar about for Mood.

Holy Shit! Every single one of them should've gone home.

by Anonymousreply 214Last Monday at 7:50 PM

R210 On reality competition shows the eliminated get moved out right away and usually they go to a different hotel or different section of the hotel for up to two weeks or sometimes until shooting is over. The footage I've seen of eliminated areas are hilarious because they all look so dejected. Producers do this to make it unclear what order people were eliminated in and so they can easily call back eliminated contestants for episodes or for those challenges where they get a chance to compete again. Since rules limit the amount of exposure contestants have to the outside world it's like being in limbo. On some competitions eliminated contestants are allowed to use that time to study but on Project Runway the rule used to be that you couldn't have any fashion related learning materials. I don't know if they have changed that rule.

There was an old episode of Project Runway that made me think they also make their eliminated contestants stay but I don't have any direct backstage knowledge of Project Runway. I just know how other reality shows work.

R214 Here is a thread about All stars I haven't watched that season yet but your comment makes me want to.

by Anonymousreply 215Last Monday at 8:30 PM

I read somewhere that the eliminated designers are kept in the same hotel/apt space but totally isolated from the ones still in competition. They are sent on sightseeing tours so they're not just staring at the walls. Sometimes they're brought back as helpers for a challenge or to replace someone that had to drop out. Filming the entire show lasts for a month I think.

by Anonymousreply 216Last Tuesday at 3:00 AM

On "Top Chef" the eliminated are kept around, and if there is a challenge where they are cooking for the public all of them come out and cook, too, so that people can't say later, "I went to this event and the six left were..."

by Anonymousreply 217Last Tuesday at 3:08 AM

[quote] Now, here's my question: When a contestant is eliminated must they leave the living arrangements and return home?

No, they are kept around and a couple of them return sometimes to help out in one of the final challenges.

by Anonymousreply 218Last Tuesday at 11:53 AM

Her in-laws sound nice.

by Anonymousreply 219Last Tuesday at 6:33 PM

R219, that article actually made me like Kloss.

by Anonymousreply 220Last Tuesday at 8:44 PM

I’m actually looking forward to this next episode after not being able to get into it for a while. I think it helps that I watched it from the first episode this time. Now I’m invested.

by Anonymousreply 221Last Tuesday at 8:50 PM

The eliminated contestants are usually sequestered until the show finishes taping. That way there can be no spoilers from people spotting them back in their hometowns. Project runway is taped and not live.... so they don't want to give away he gets kicked out and in what order.

by Anonymousreply 222Last Tuesday at 9:10 PM

When the opening looks came out (the ones they made at home), there was some that I really liked but I can't seem to find pics of them anywhere.

by Anonymousreply 223Last Tuesday at 9:13 PM

I guess their idea of a reboot was to be really cringey and try hard with the #Woke shit.

Half the episode was basically a penis measuring contest of who was the most victimized in their life. I want to root for someone because they have talent, not because they have the worst sob story.

The Lifetime season is better.

by Anonymousreply 224Last Tuesday at 10:59 PM

When can we expect to see the designers make gowns for the Countess LuAnn's next cabaret? How about a SkinnyGirl tie -in? New server outfits for Vanderpump? Gowns for the Giudice girls?

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