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'EMPIRE' STAR JUSSIE SMOLLETT VICTIM OF HOMOPHOBIC ATTACK By MAGA Supporters

"Empire" star Jussie Smollett was brutally attacked by 2 men who beat him up, put his head in a noose and screamed, "This is MAGA country."

Sources directly connected to Jussie tell TMZ, the actor arrived in Chicago from New York late Monday, and at around 2 AM he was hungry and went to a Subway. We're told when he walked out, someone yelled, "Aren't you that f***ot 'Empire' n*****?"

The 2 men -- both white and wearing ski masks -- viciously attacked Jussie as he fought back, but they beat him badly and fractured a rib. They put a rope around his neck, poured bleach on him and as they left they yelled, "This is MAGA country."

Jussie was taken to Northwestern Memorial where he was treated. He was discharged later Tuesday morning.

ThatGrapeJuice.Net first posted this letter which was sent to FOX Studios in Chicago with cut out letters spelling, "You will die black f**." Our sources say the letter was sent 8 days ago.

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by Anonymousreply 605January 30, 2019 1:59 AM

Fuck MAGA Fuck Trump

by Anonymousreply 1January 29, 2019 3:30 PM

Fake news

by Anonymousreply 2January 29, 2019 3:33 PM

isn't TMZ good with breaking news?

by Anonymousreply 3January 29, 2019 3:34 PM

R2 so gay bashing doesn’t happen anymore?

by Anonymousreply 4January 29, 2019 3:36 PM

Chicago showing the world what a world class city it is once again.

by Anonymousreply 5January 29, 2019 3:37 PM

I'm not saying that this is fake news but this story sure does check all the boxes: White guys, wearing ski masks (ie, impossible to ID), shouting homophobic slurs, shouting right-wing slogans. Hmmm.

by Anonymousreply 6January 29, 2019 3:37 PM

A noose? Bleach? 2 am.

It’s a race play hook up where someone got a little too overly enthusiastic

by Anonymousreply 7January 29, 2019 3:38 PM

Any statement from Rahm Emanuel yet

by Anonymousreply 8January 29, 2019 3:39 PM

ET confirming it:

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by Anonymousreply 9January 29, 2019 3:40 PM

Kevin Hart, Are you reading this? do you still think it is a joke ?

by Anonymousreply 10January 29, 2019 3:40 PM

Any statement from Jada Pinkett?

by Anonymousreply 11January 29, 2019 3:40 PM

Confirmed by Chicago police.

by Anonymousreply 12January 29, 2019 3:43 PM

CPD statement

Please help to find those two guys

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by Anonymousreply 13January 29, 2019 3:44 PM

Has Kelly Ripa commented yet?

by Anonymousreply 14January 29, 2019 3:46 PM

Disgusting! I hope those who did it will sit long time in prison.

by Anonymousreply 15January 29, 2019 3:47 PM

Or Kevin Hart?

by Anonymousreply 16January 29, 2019 3:47 PM

Wow, so these white guys were walking around Chicago at night with ski masks, bleach, and a noose, just looking for someone to attack? Crazy.

by Anonymousreply 17January 29, 2019 3:48 PM

Mailing a letter too? Overkill. This actor did this for publicity.

by Anonymousreply 18January 29, 2019 3:49 PM

R10 He was attacked because he is black and gay. This isn't about kevin hart.

STOP IT!!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 19January 29, 2019 3:50 PM

Yeah, that's why I was very skeptical of the TMZ story, R17. But the Chicago PD seems to be confirming it -- or, at least, Smollett's version of it.

by Anonymousreply 20January 29, 2019 3:51 PM

Northwestern Hospital is in a nice part of Chicago. Did the attack also occur in that area?

by Anonymousreply 21January 29, 2019 3:51 PM

I have a feeling one of the FAKE NEWS trolls did it themselves -- disgusting racist motherfuckers clogging this website

by Anonymousreply 22January 29, 2019 3:52 PM

Hate crimes have sharply increased since Trump came onto the scene. He has emboldened these pieces of shit.

by Anonymousreply 23January 29, 2019 3:53 PM

Racism and white people, it just goes hand in hand, and has for centuries unfortunately.

by Anonymousreply 24January 29, 2019 3:53 PM

I hope he is alright but you have to admit it's a really convoluted story.

by Anonymousreply 25January 29, 2019 3:54 PM

This makes me cry...

by Anonymousreply 26January 29, 2019 3:55 PM

White males are dangerous.

by Anonymousreply 27January 29, 2019 3:56 PM

Smollett was probably being stalked by these people prior to the attack. He posts a lot of private information on his Instagram Stories, including his whereabouts and that sort of thing.

If you've ever worked with someone with a reasonably high public profile then you know that receiving threatening mail and that sort of thing is not out of the ordinary.

by Anonymousreply 28January 29, 2019 3:57 PM

Let's see how FOX reports this rascist, homophobic attack, considering he works for their parent network.

by Anonymousreply 29January 29, 2019 3:58 PM

Any Video cameras outside Subway?

by Anonymousreply 30January 29, 2019 3:59 PM

These crackers want the 1950s back sooo bad.

by Anonymousreply 31January 29, 2019 4:00 PM

As the cops said in their statement they are canvassing for video footage r20, there is going to be a camera somewhere to catch footage of who these people were.

by Anonymousreply 32January 29, 2019 4:00 PM

Anyone saying this is for publicity can fuck themselves. Jussie hardly needs it.

Hopefully, he can afford some private security.

by Anonymousreply 33January 29, 2019 4:02 PM

[quote]These crackers want the 1850s back sooo bad.

Fixed that for you.

by Anonymousreply 34January 29, 2019 4:03 PM

R32, CPD has a crime-solving rate of less than 20 %

by Anonymousreply 35January 29, 2019 4:03 PM

Subway stores are open until 2AM in Chicago?

by Anonymousreply 36January 29, 2019 4:04 PM

When you are a poor kid in the hood cops don't care r35, Jussie is a celebrity. That means the world is watching.

by Anonymousreply 37January 29, 2019 4:04 PM

Grindr hookup gone bad.

by Anonymousreply 38January 29, 2019 4:06 PM

The subway near me is 24 hours and I live in a smaller city than Chicago r36.

by Anonymousreply 39January 29, 2019 4:07 PM

Some Subway locations are open 24 hours

by Anonymousreply 40January 29, 2019 4:08 PM

Sorry r39, I didn’t see you there.

by Anonymousreply 41January 29, 2019 4:10 PM

He is openly gay r38, he would not need to hide a grindr hook up.

by Anonymousreply 42January 29, 2019 4:11 PM

If the attackers wore ski masks, how does anyone know what race they are?

Let’s not jump the gun.

There’s more to the story.

by Anonymousreply 43January 29, 2019 4:12 PM

R42 as evidenced in many threads here, using Grindr meets with disapproval from a large proportion on the gay community

by Anonymousreply 44January 29, 2019 4:15 PM

This sounds like an absolutely horrible story. But something about it doesn't pass my bullshit test. In about a week we will have a clearer understanding of what I have. Maybe everything is as it appears.

by Anonymousreply 45January 29, 2019 4:15 PM

Poor Jussie. The Root has a Facebook page that is full of condescending comments about how they”don’t agree with his lifestyle choice, but he didn’t deserve this”...whatever.

by Anonymousreply 46January 29, 2019 4:15 PM

Downtown Chicago is MAGA country?

by Anonymousreply 47January 29, 2019 4:16 PM

No one ever gets a decent boost in their career after an incident like this. No one. The best case scenario is public good will and maybe not a ding to your career (Terry Crews, for example) but usually the skittish Hollywood types avoid you like the plague after something like this.

It's incredibly unlikely he did it for publicity. To immediately jump to that conclusion says a lot about your intent.

by Anonymousreply 48January 29, 2019 4:17 PM

The idea that he created this story to tell the police rather than deal with a grindr hook up gone bad sounds ridiculous. I'm not super familiar with Smollett, but I am assume he is not a crazy person like you are relying to imply.

by Anonymousreply 49January 29, 2019 4:17 PM

R45 and others, stop taking the media's rush to report everything they hear immediately as a sign Smollett is lying.

Every breaking news story is a mess at first. Every single one.

There's a difference between healthy skepticism and an obvious wish for a story to be a hoax so you can shit all over a famous person.

by Anonymousreply 50January 29, 2019 4:19 PM

[quote] Anyone saying this is for publicity can fuck themselves. Jussie hardly needs it.

I had no idea who this guy is before this story.

by Anonymousreply 51January 29, 2019 4:20 PM

Smollett is black, of course he’s lying.

He has to be a blond, hunky homophobic racist for Datalounge to hang on his every word.

by Anonymousreply 52January 29, 2019 4:21 PM

r51, you must be a newbie, he has been talked about here for years

by Anonymousreply 53January 29, 2019 4:22 PM

Not all gay people watch / read things just because someone gay is in it

by Anonymousreply 54January 29, 2019 4:23 PM

So these two guys just happened to be wearing ski masks covering their faces, have bleach and a rope on them, and no cameras caught anything?

by Anonymousreply 55January 29, 2019 4:24 PM

Nothing good happens at 2am. Why was he out and about at that time? It sounds more like he was looking for drugs and something bad happened.

by Anonymousreply 56January 29, 2019 4:25 PM

[Quote]and no cameras caught anything?

Huh? We don't know what cameras caught yet.

by Anonymousreply 57January 29, 2019 4:25 PM

Extremely cold temps in Chicago last night, a ski mask would have been normal and expected r55

by Anonymousreply 58January 29, 2019 4:26 PM

[Quote]Nothing good happens at 2am. Why was he out and about at that time?

How old are you?!

by Anonymousreply 59January 29, 2019 4:26 PM

R56 ancient senile fuck

by Anonymousreply 60January 29, 2019 4:27 PM

r58 and bleach and a rope?

by Anonymousreply 61January 29, 2019 4:28 PM

Old enough to immediately go to the, "The black man shouldn't have been out past a certain time, he brought this on himself" excuse, R59.

by Anonymousreply 62January 29, 2019 4:29 PM

When I've been jet lagged from travel, I've sometimes been out looking for food at 2 a.m. If he was staying near the hospital where he later went, it's a pretty good area of Chicago and I would have felt safe walking around there at that hour.

by Anonymousreply 63January 29, 2019 4:31 PM

You realize if you can't ridicule someone without completely changing their words, you aren't really proving your point.

by Anonymousreply 64January 29, 2019 4:31 PM

Yeah, something doesn't quite add up, unless these two men were just walking around with ski masks, bleach and rope, planning to attack the first gay or black man they saw.

by Anonymousreply 65January 29, 2019 4:31 PM

But it was cold, r65! The ski masks are perfectly reasonable!@#!@!@

by Anonymousreply 66January 29, 2019 4:32 PM

Of course racism and homophobia are real problems we are still dealing with in most parts of this world. With that in mind, this story is bullshit. I love Jussie, and still catch Empire every once in a while. But this right here....this is not the real story behind whatever has happened to him.

by Anonymousreply 67January 29, 2019 4:32 PM

A lot of these details come from TMZ, which isn't always accurate. The cops statement said unknown liquid.

by Anonymousreply 68January 29, 2019 4:33 PM

Ah, I see it's time for this to start happening in this thread.

*Anything Racist Happens*

Some random troll on Datalounge at R45:

[quote]This sounds like an absolutely horrible story. But something about it doesn't pass my bullshit test.

Oh hereeeeeeee we go.

by Anonymousreply 69January 29, 2019 4:34 PM

I was thinking about the bleach. I bet it was a small bottle, not a gallon.

And the noose....dog collar?

Is Jussie linked to pup play?

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by Anonymousreply 70January 29, 2019 4:34 PM

People who commit crimes like these tend to either be repeat offenders, meaning they'll have gear in their car "just in case," or they're redneck types who have all kinds of crap in their truck at any given moment.

I get that some of you never lived in the South or Midwest and were never hassled by the cops just because you're gay, or not white, or whatever, but it never fails to astonish me how many of you act like these things never happen. Even if it never happened to you, you NEVER ran into someone who was gaybashed? Never talked to a black guy who was threatened by racists?

by Anonymousreply 71January 29, 2019 4:35 PM

R70 you use bleach to clean up dog urine

by Anonymousreply 72January 29, 2019 4:36 PM

Were there Lesbians involved?

by Anonymousreply 73January 29, 2019 4:36 PM

[quote] The cops statement said unknown liquid.

Please don't confuse Dataloungers with the truth. They're too busy fingering themselves with one hand and posting "BUT NO ONE EVER HAS BLEACH OUT IN PUBLIC EVER!!!!!" with the other to get confused by actual facts.

by Anonymousreply 74January 29, 2019 4:37 PM

Anything can be used as a rope.

by Anonymousreply 75January 29, 2019 4:37 PM

Also, how would two racists white guys know who is on Empire?

by Anonymousreply 76January 29, 2019 4:37 PM

Why do I feel this story isnt accurate or true? Seems fake. Something happened but sis this aint it!

by Anonymousreply 77January 29, 2019 4:38 PM

Made up story. White men don't watch EMPIRE.

by Anonymousreply 78January 29, 2019 4:38 PM

[quote]A lot of these details come from TMZ, which isn't always accurate. The cops statement said unknown liquid.

This makes a lot more sense. Why don’t we wait and see?

by Anonymousreply 79January 29, 2019 4:38 PM

I'm sorry but this sounds af...I'm going to wait a few days and let the police properly investigate this before jumping to any conclusions.

by Anonymousreply 80January 29, 2019 4:38 PM

Wasn't he "barely clinging to life" in the earlier story?

by Anonymousreply 81January 29, 2019 4:39 PM

I meant fishy af

by Anonymousreply 82January 29, 2019 4:39 PM

[Quote]Why don’t we wait and see?

Smollett himself hasn't even said a single word yet.

by Anonymousreply 83January 29, 2019 4:39 PM

[quote]Made up story. White men don't watch EMPIRE.

They watch sporting events that have commercials for TV shows.

by Anonymousreply 84January 29, 2019 4:40 PM

Something isn't right. I'm not jumping the gun again. Remember the Chipotle manager in Minnesota? The DC mess with that smirky catholic kids? Im waiting got more facts to come out to make up my mind.

by Anonymousreply 85January 29, 2019 4:41 PM

r74 the truth? You're totally working from emotion, and you're trying to say that you have the truth on your side?

by Anonymousreply 86January 29, 2019 4:41 PM

Drug deal gone wrong. Fucking lying nigger faggots.

by Anonymousreply 87January 29, 2019 4:42 PM

[quote]r19 He was attacked because he is black and gay. This isn't about kevin hart. STOP IT!!!!!!

Except it is kind of about Kevin Hart, and every other insensitive homophobe who's been in the news.

by Anonymousreply 88January 29, 2019 4:43 PM

It's no fun to just wait and see. It's more fun to take what you know is sketchy reporting from TMZ and then act like you're goddamned Miss Marple and be the first to prove it's all a hoax. "I'm smart, I can sift through the clues, I can spot a liar!" Very similar to the kinds of people who think everything is connected by some psychic number conspiracy theories.

by Anonymousreply 89January 29, 2019 4:43 PM

The police released a statement:

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by Anonymousreply 90January 29, 2019 4:43 PM

I'm biracial & loathe Tump/MAGA (of course) but something seems wrong her. A noose, bleach, threatening racist notes that look like they were written by a child? I don't know....something seems "off".

by Anonymousreply 91January 29, 2019 4:46 PM

Something doesn’t add up about this. I’m skeptical. I live in Chicago and know that area which has very little crime . Was this a drug deal gone bad? Will be interesting to see how this plays out.

by Anonymousreply 92January 29, 2019 4:46 PM

r89 I'm not seeing the difference between those of us who are saying "wait and see" and "the story as presented seems odd" and people who are screaming EVERYONE IS RACIST AND HOMOPHOBIC HE IS CLINGING TO LIFE based on the same lack of information and sensational detail.

by Anonymousreply 93January 29, 2019 4:46 PM

Okay, well, we're at the n-word and f-word portion of the thread, along with the 50th person to make the trenchant insight that "something seems off about this."

Good job, everyone. What a successful thread that's not at all full of bigots and basic bitches.

by Anonymousreply 94January 29, 2019 4:47 PM

Pup play gone wrong!

by Anonymousreply 95January 29, 2019 4:48 PM

I'm willing to nurse him back to health.

by Anonymousreply 96January 29, 2019 4:48 PM

R19 = Ellen DeGeneres

by Anonymousreply 97January 29, 2019 4:49 PM

Cold as fuck here in Chicago last night. Why anyone was out in the early am hours is ridiculous.

by Anonymousreply 98January 29, 2019 4:49 PM

r94 oh please. There's always some rando who walks into any thread mentioning a black person and says something like that. Best just ignored as they clearly just want attention, which you are giving to them.

by Anonymousreply 99January 29, 2019 4:49 PM

GLAAD offers its support

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by Anonymousreply 100January 29, 2019 4:49 PM

do you guys think that Empire will do a crossover episode with Chicago PD and Chicago Med after this ?

by Anonymousreply 101January 29, 2019 4:50 PM

Is Jussie uncut or cut?

I have to know before I decide how hard to root for his recovery.

by Anonymousreply 102January 29, 2019 4:51 PM

Good point R98. Only drugs could make u wanna be out on the streets in this ice box we're in at 2 in the morning

by Anonymousreply 103January 29, 2019 4:51 PM

Words of support on Twitter from Janet Mock, Jackee Harry....

by Anonymousreply 104January 29, 2019 4:51 PM

Or dick and butt r103

by Anonymousreply 105January 29, 2019 4:52 PM

News like this is always so depressing because it never seems to end.

Get well soon, Jussie, and I hope they catch those bastards.

by Anonymousreply 106January 29, 2019 4:52 PM

True or not, linking/clicking on/reading/supporting TMZ is really no better than watching FAUX News. Really shameful. Pathetic that gay people give cred and revenue to a low life website run by MAGAt supporters. There's really no hope.

by Anonymousreply 107January 29, 2019 4:52 PM

We've discussed Jussies dick before r103, knock yourself out.

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by Anonymousreply 108January 29, 2019 4:53 PM

Jussie is in “good condition”

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by Anonymousreply 109January 29, 2019 4:53 PM

R72, bleach should NEVER be used to clean dog urine or any urine for that matter. Anything with ammonia, including urine, reacts with bleach and forms a toxic gas. Just wanted to get thatout before you kill yourself or another DLer.

by Anonymousreply 110January 29, 2019 4:53 PM

Has Sinbad commented yet?

by Anonymousreply 111January 29, 2019 4:54 PM

There are ZERO maga bros in Chicago out in sub zero am hours attacking anyone at a subway. Zero.

by Anonymousreply 112January 29, 2019 4:57 PM

The Tribune says the address of the incident was 300 block of East Lower Water Street.

by Anonymousreply 113January 29, 2019 5:01 PM

I see people talking about him clinging to life. But the article said that he was released the morning after

by Anonymousreply 114January 29, 2019 5:03 PM

Stephanie Rhuel is like crying on MSNBC. Whoa. Maybe one of her kids is LGBT or something.

by Anonymousreply 115January 29, 2019 5:04 PM

TMZ is a right-wing site. They'll report this, let it spread and be picked up and reported by larger and more respected outlets. The entire truth will be revealed. TMZ will then quietly retract the story or say they were misled or something. People will forget TMZ was the first to report this. Cries of media bias will be deafening.

by Anonymousreply 116January 29, 2019 5:05 PM

A lot of racists on other threads are pretending to be simple concerned citizens over here. R112 is off in the fatties thread saying things like, "Blacks need to eat less" for one example.

Didn't TMZ recently report something as breaking that turned out to be completely untrue? I'm blanking on what it was, maybe I can find it in a search.

by Anonymousreply 117January 29, 2019 5:06 PM

TMZ wasn't actually the first to report this, it was some other random site.

by Anonymousreply 118January 29, 2019 5:06 PM

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by Anonymousreply 119January 29, 2019 5:07 PM

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by Anonymousreply 120January 29, 2019 5:07 PM

I remembered it already: the Michael Avenatti thing. They said it was his ex-wife and all sorts of stuff that wasn't true.

As others have said, TMZ is a right-wing site.

by Anonymousreply 121January 29, 2019 5:07 PM

R115 she's always crying about something. She's very emotional.

by Anonymousreply 122January 29, 2019 5:08 PM

This was in a store correct? So a employee witnessed the altercation?

by Anonymousreply 123January 29, 2019 5:08 PM

There was the Michael Avenatti story TMZ broke which was bullshit. He was beating his ex wife they published!

Except not at all.

by Anonymousreply 124January 29, 2019 5:08 PM

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by Anonymousreply 125January 29, 2019 5:08 PM

R117, get off my cock tattletits!

by Anonymousreply 126January 29, 2019 5:09 PM

[quote] Stephanie Rhuel is like crying on MSNBC. Whoa. Maybe one of her kids is LGBT or something.

She cries over everything.

by Anonymousreply 127January 29, 2019 5:09 PM

Someone posted this in the Twitter thread with the police report. Let us all reflect seriously on this person's words.

@AdouBD 1h1 hour ago

Replying to @Phil_Lewis_

1-They came for, the black, the Indigenious People, the Latinos, the Women, the children... Everyone that was different than them, and I didn't speak out. Then they came for me. And they were no one to protect me.

Based on the poem written by

Pastor Martin Niemöller

(1892–1984)

#Linguere #QueenOfNdeer and #Wakanda ‏

@AdouBD 1h1 hour ago

2- we can sit and still complain.

Or we can start talking about it and make the change needed.

I am in: dialogue about race and hate culrures. How to shift the paradigm. I was a speaker in a small group last sunday. Anyone interested, please DM me.

#Linguere #QueenOfNdeer and #Wakanda ‏

@AdouBD 1h1 hour ago

3- this is the message I received from one of the participant:

Thank you so very much for your amazing contributions to the success of last night's dialogue. Your words and the knowledge and wisdom they imparted were truly healing🍁🍁🍁

You are truly an extraordinary person🌷🌷🌷

by Anonymousreply 128January 29, 2019 5:09 PM

As of right now we still don't have any statement from Jussie/his team, which is pretty damn important.

by Anonymousreply 129January 29, 2019 5:10 PM

Yes, TMZ did break the story.

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by Anonymousreply 130January 29, 2019 5:10 PM

He "self transported" to the hospital.

by Anonymousreply 131January 29, 2019 5:11 PM

R116, TMZmay have broken the story, but the Chicago Police put out a statement so there's no doubt he was attacked.

by Anonymousreply 132January 29, 2019 5:12 PM

R112 nailed it.

The most shocking thing about this story is that Jussie would eat Subway.

by Anonymousreply 133January 29, 2019 5:12 PM

Thank you r119

[bold]BBC

Hold on Jussie...do not look into the light!

by Anonymousreply 134January 29, 2019 5:12 PM

These people must have planned this. They happened do have chemicals and rope on them? This was a hit.

by Anonymousreply 135January 29, 2019 5:14 PM

In this area, there are a lot of Polish people that are very racist.

by Anonymousreply 136January 29, 2019 5:14 PM

The police report does say they're investigating a possible hate crime and that the victim is cooperating. They're looking for witnesses and cameras.

He did apparently have rib injuries so that much is true.

I didn't know Subway opened that late.

The details about the MAGA stuff is coming from TMZ not the police report so maybe that part isn't true. TMZ posted that he was getting death threats and they posted a letter with a possible MAGA symbol so maybe that's where they're getting it from. The letter was sent like 8 days before.

by Anonymousreply 137January 29, 2019 5:14 PM

I think Jussie was targeted, maybe had been stalked for a while. He has been an outspoken Trump critic and the video where he smashes up a Trump mask was all over the conservative subreddits and forums. When you Google him, links to alt right posts about him abound. He wasn't just another actor to them.

by Anonymousreply 138January 29, 2019 5:15 PM

Or they poured whatever was around and used whatever was around as a rope r135.

by Anonymousreply 139January 29, 2019 5:15 PM

Thanks r138, I didn't know he had a history to the alt right crowd. That is certainly interesting.

by Anonymousreply 140January 29, 2019 5:16 PM

So Fox received a threatening letter 8 days ago and Jussie didn’t get protection??!

by Anonymousreply 141January 29, 2019 5:19 PM

[quote]TMZmay have broken the story, but the Chicago Police put out a statement so there's no doubt he was attacked.

Sure, but the details TMZ provides so often prove to be wrong. Which they probably do on purpose, specifically to make the story sound implausible, or to craft a narrative that fits their political views.

That is, they got the fact that he was attacked and injured right, but the bleach part they seem to have made up, because the police just said liquid, as far as we know. Things like that make a difference. Look at all the people on here who immediately said, "This didn't happen because no one is out walking around with bleach."

One of those same people then later said that TMZ didn't break the story, it was actually "some random site." Also not true.

But that's the same tactic the political trolls use, isn't it? Post a sketchy news story with lies or exaggerations, defend it for a while, then deny their right-wing websites were responsible for the lies in the first place.

by Anonymousreply 142January 29, 2019 5:20 PM

[QUOTE]News like this is always so depressing because it never seems to end.

News like this is always so depressing especially when it turns out to have been made up.

by Anonymousreply 143January 29, 2019 5:21 PM

That Grape Juice broke this story

by Anonymousreply 144January 29, 2019 5:21 PM

TMZ pays $$$ for these 'scoops'. Most likely a hospital worker called when he showed up in the ER

by Anonymousreply 145January 29, 2019 5:24 PM

What we know is that Jussie checked himself into the hospital with injuries and that he filed a police report. We need to hear from him.

by Anonymousreply 146January 29, 2019 5:26 PM

Maybe it was Red Tranny Gang.

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by Anonymousreply 147January 29, 2019 5:26 PM

Not seeing Twitter words of support from straight whites....

by Anonymousreply 148January 29, 2019 5:27 PM

There will be no footage of the attack.

by Anonymousreply 149January 29, 2019 5:27 PM

Jessie please do not have made this up when it was a drug deal gone bad.

by Anonymousreply 150January 29, 2019 5:27 PM

Jussie not Jessie, dummy.

by Anonymousreply 151January 29, 2019 5:29 PM

He could have said nothing r150, there was no reason he had to file this police report.

by Anonymousreply 152January 29, 2019 5:29 PM

Going to eat at a Subway should be a hate crime!

by Anonymousreply 153January 29, 2019 5:29 PM

I think most celebrities have underlings buy drugs for them, R150. And, yes, there was no reason for him to involve the police in that case.

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by Anonymousreply 154January 29, 2019 5:31 PM

The Grape Juice website's article is from about an hour before TMZ's, but wow it's poorly written.

by Anonymousreply 155January 29, 2019 5:31 PM

What moron names their baby Jussie?

by Anonymousreply 156January 29, 2019 5:31 PM

For his sake i hope there's video because you know a lot of people won't believe the story.

by Anonymousreply 157January 29, 2019 5:31 PM

TMZ is up Trump ass so they can’t be happy about an attack on a celebrity by MAGA Deplorables

by Anonymousreply 158January 29, 2019 5:32 PM

The fact that the stories are blaming some white MAGA which will probably be proven false, just is gonna continue to make the other side look like fools, and Trump will be president again!

by Anonymousreply 159January 29, 2019 5:34 PM

Liberals are so peaceful and kind...do they ever shoot people or beat people up? How come?

I never watch Harvey anymore...he is a deplorable, a queer, homophobic Deplorable. I think he should be dead.

by Anonymousreply 160January 29, 2019 5:35 PM

Is TMZ pro-Trump? I don't visit the site because i'm not really interested in celebrity drama and i'm aware that their midget gay leader is pro-cheetoili

by Anonymousreply 161January 29, 2019 5:36 PM

Actually, r142, some random site did break the story. There was even a DL thread on it before this one. The site was called something to the effect of "grape juice" and it was immediately dismissed.

by Anonymousreply 162January 29, 2019 5:36 PM

He and his sister Jazz were on MSNBC this weekend discussing their political activism. I watched the segment but do not recall in which show it was aired.

by Anonymousreply 163January 29, 2019 5:37 PM

R162, I posted again at R155.

by Anonymousreply 164January 29, 2019 5:38 PM

Again, Jussie did an entire video attacking Trump. It made the rounds on alt right websites. I'll be waiting for his statement, but people are seriously suggesting on some websites that he broke his own ribs for publicity?! The Smolletts are well known and respected in Hollywood. They don't need publicity stunts.

by Anonymousreply 165January 29, 2019 5:39 PM

On a separate but related note, I had no idea Empire was still on the air.

by Anonymousreply 166January 29, 2019 5:44 PM

As a drug buy gone bad, he would engage in a publicity stunt to cover it up r165

by Anonymousreply 167January 29, 2019 5:44 PM

Rough trade or fake.

by Anonymousreply 168January 29, 2019 5:45 PM

Thanks r138 and r165, et al. I had no idea.

Def looks like he was targeted.

Bad enough on its own but I have to wonder who else is on their list.

by Anonymousreply 169January 29, 2019 5:46 PM

It's cold here in Chicago land at least 0 degrees this morning so probably colder than that at 2 am. Im not sure who's out at that time so maybe it was a planned attack.

by Anonymousreply 170January 29, 2019 5:47 PM

Anyone can show up in an ER and anyone can file a police report.

Doesn’t mean any of it happened.

How would anyone know he was at a subway sandwich shop on that exact street to do this?

by Anonymousreply 171January 29, 2019 5:48 PM

Inside job with the perfect maga cover story. 🤔

by Anonymousreply 172January 29, 2019 5:50 PM

Sounds a little like when Kevin Spacey got "mugged" in a London park at 4am.

by Anonymousreply 173January 29, 2019 5:51 PM

There was no need for any kind of cover story because he had not been outed or arrested for a drug deal, for a hookup gone bad, or anything like that.

The police are clearly investigating, which they would not do if they were aware that this was just a fake story over a drug deal gone bad or something along those lines.

There really is no reason to assume he made this up.

by Anonymousreply 174January 29, 2019 5:52 PM

The Subway’s the front for an international pedophile ring?

by Anonymousreply 175January 29, 2019 5:53 PM

Did find several 24 hour subways in Chicago so that part is true.

This isn't the first time a black gay person has been targeted and beaten up (see New York where one was killed) so the attack is not so unbelievable. I think it's the part about them instantly knowing who he was that seems kind of random.

I don't see any reason to make this up. He has to know the police would investigate and look for video evidence.

by Anonymousreply 176January 29, 2019 5:55 PM

If he was one of the celebrities the altright has been really angry about, he very well could have been followed.

by Anonymousreply 177January 29, 2019 5:58 PM

I meant it was someone he knew who organized the attack, and pretended to be maga loons to throw the scent off of them/him/her. That's what I meant by inside job, and 'cover story'.

I imagine there will be security footage of some sort though.

by Anonymousreply 178January 29, 2019 5:58 PM

[Quote]Did find several 24 hour subways in Chicago so that part is true

I find it hilarious that this caused some controversy. The peope who don't believe places can be open at 2am clearly live in flyoverland.

by Anonymousreply 179January 29, 2019 5:59 PM

I think it was the same guys who raped Tawana Brawley.

by Anonymousreply 180January 29, 2019 5:59 PM

This sounds fishy to me.

by Anonymousreply 181January 29, 2019 6:00 PM

The attackers were just jealous of Jussie's huge cock, which we've all seen.

by Anonymousreply 182January 29, 2019 6:02 PM

I live in NYC in Harlem specifically. Subways closes at 11.

by Anonymousreply 183January 29, 2019 6:02 PM

Jussie Smollett or his people have yet to comment. But I think TMZ is saying that the Empire cast was holding an emergency meeting to discuss this and increased security.

by Anonymousreply 184January 29, 2019 6:03 PM

[quote]Stephanie Rhuel is like crying on MSNBC. Whoa. Maybe one of her kids is LGBT or something.

I was just watching that.

I’ve never seen her before because I’m not usually home during the day.

Damn, she is really unprofessional. Does she usually have full-on meltdowns and crying fits on TV??

by Anonymousreply 185January 29, 2019 6:04 PM

The one in Hells Kitchen is 24 hours btw r183.

by Anonymousreply 186January 29, 2019 6:05 PM

ThatGrapeJuice had the story first

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by Anonymousreply 187January 29, 2019 6:06 PM

[quote]There really is no reason to assume he made this up.

Well he's black, and that's apparently enough for 90% of the trolls on this thread. Obviously he was buying drugs with his big black scary penis!

by Anonymousreply 188January 29, 2019 6:06 PM

r179 you realize Chicago is considered part of "flyoverland", right?

by Anonymousreply 189January 29, 2019 6:07 PM

This has all the makings of a publicity stunt, like the ones Jayne Mansfield used to stage.

by Anonymousreply 190January 29, 2019 6:07 PM

Why didn't he have food delivered?

Lots of different variables in this story. Sure will be interesting when the details emerge.

by Anonymousreply 191January 29, 2019 6:08 PM

Who released the threatening letter we've been seeing that was sent to smolett?

by Anonymousreply 192January 29, 2019 6:10 PM

Jayne, desperate for attention . . .

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by Anonymousreply 193January 29, 2019 6:10 PM

Yeah, I call BS on this. MAGA loonies aren’t our and about the streets of Chicago beating up minorities especially right downtown on South Water. This isn’t an occurrence ANYWHERE in town.

As far as people NEVER lying about what happened, how about this “kidnapped” student who actually went to the building for $40 sex and was robbed? That was a fun story from not too long ago.

So yeah, pardon my skepticism.

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by Anonymousreply 194January 29, 2019 6:10 PM

Chicago is the third biggest city in the US, that's not what people mean by flyoverland r189.

by Anonymousreply 195January 29, 2019 6:11 PM

The story makes zero fucking sense.

by Anonymousreply 196January 29, 2019 6:11 PM

All of the racist cunts who wanted to give the MAGA kid in DC the benefit of the doubt are rushing onto this thread to accuse this guy of lying.

by Anonymousreply 197January 29, 2019 6:12 PM

So Jussie faked the letter to Fox then?!

by Anonymousreply 198January 29, 2019 6:12 PM

r191 no, questioning ANY detail means you are a horrible racist forever!@@$@!#

by Anonymousreply 199January 29, 2019 6:12 PM

MAGA thugs wouldn’t have sent the anonymous letter from MAGA Lol

by Anonymousreply 200January 29, 2019 6:13 PM

Jussie IS the new Aimee Semple McPherson!

by Anonymousreply 201January 29, 2019 6:13 PM

[quote] Damn, she is really unprofessional. Does she usually have full-on meltdowns and crying fits on TV??

Yep and speaks over people.

by Anonymousreply 202January 29, 2019 6:13 PM

We don't know the story yet r196.

by Anonymousreply 203January 29, 2019 6:13 PM

R189 lives a small simple life in a quaint Russian village

by Anonymousreply 204January 29, 2019 6:14 PM

[quote]Cold as fuck here in Chicago last night. Why anyone was out in the early am hours is ridiculous.

It said he just got into town that night. he probably had no food in the house and went out to get some. That's why food places are open 24/7. Not a great mystery there

by Anonymousreply 205January 29, 2019 6:15 PM

Can't a guy step out of his hotel near the Navy Pier,, call an Uber to take him to Steamworks Chicago, and not be attacked? What is this world coming to.? (Don't buy the Subway story - maybe he was HEADED to the subway to take him to Steamworks).

by Anonymousreply 206January 29, 2019 6:15 PM

Assuming everything happened as reported... It looks like the attack is closely connected with the show. both the mailed threats and what the attacker said that night Referenced Empire

by Anonymousreply 207January 29, 2019 6:15 PM

PS He is a very handsome guy. I hope the attack didn't damage his face.

by Anonymousreply 208January 29, 2019 6:16 PM

R142/r164, I have no idea what you are going on about. There is no one on this planet that equates TMZ to actual journalism. And, if they do, then they need to poor bleach to clean urine as suggested up thread and become the next Darin Award finalist.

TMZ is known for getting info from sketchy sources, for paying people to get info unethically and for often being wrong. They are not trolling or spreading bad info to subvert society. They are TMZ, a gossip site, and if you ascribe anything more to the site then you are the problem.

by Anonymousreply 209January 29, 2019 6:18 PM

r204 = Trump

by Anonymousreply 210January 29, 2019 6:18 PM

So this thing was fake? I have the OP blocked but read this on the news. Bleach and a noose?

by Anonymousreply 211January 29, 2019 6:19 PM

I believe he was attacked but I don't believe he was going to subway. subway is open 24hrs in chicago?

by Anonymousreply 212January 29, 2019 6:21 PM

No, r211!!! It was all real, even the parts that don't make sense and require further explanation! Everything happened just as described, everyone is racist, and no one may say anything about the above unless they are also a racist, which as mentioned, everyone is racist, so they are SUPER RACIST!@ I have spoken! Period.

by Anonymousreply 213January 29, 2019 6:21 PM

How are Empire's ratings these days?

by Anonymousreply 214January 29, 2019 6:22 PM

R208, Or his gorgeous big black cock.

by Anonymousreply 215January 29, 2019 6:24 PM

I don’t have the OP blocked. It’s weird how posters appear and then disappear. LOL R213. Yes, I hear you. I know when to remain silent on homophobia—especially if the perp is black, Muslim or black Israelite. I keep my mouth shut and keep moving. I thought the same thing, R214.

by Anonymousreply 216January 29, 2019 6:25 PM

[quote]PS He is a very handsome guy. I hope the attack didn't damage his face.

I'll bet it didn't. I'll bet his moneymaker emerges unscathed.

by Anonymousreply 217January 29, 2019 6:25 PM

Empire is supposedly filmed in Chicago. I believe the Subway he went to is close to Trump Tower actually. There are plenty of cameras in the area and police are currently reviewing footage. We should get some answers very soon.

by Anonymousreply 218January 29, 2019 6:25 PM

Why has no one set up a candlelight vigil yet? RacisT!!!

by Anonymousreply 219January 29, 2019 6:27 PM

[quote] Hate crimes have sharply increased since Trump came onto the scene.

Well at least the fake hate crimes that mainly get the media's attention have sharply increased

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by Anonymousreply 220January 29, 2019 6:27 PM

...yeah no one is saying this r213. Many of us are reticent to believe everything TMZ says because they publish false details all the time. But okay, you do you.

by Anonymousreply 221January 29, 2019 6:27 PM

[quote]Why didn't he have food delivered?

People go outside, Cheryl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[quote]How are Empire's ratings these days?

Either number one, tied with the nearest competition or second place if it's up against Survivor. Still top rated on Fox. Try again.

[quote]It looks like the attack is closely connected with the show

I think it's pretty clear he was targeted.

[quote]Bleach and a noose?

It's pretty amazing how in 2019, people are really rationalizing how this couldn't have happened. People getting shot up in churches and no, "no one would target a black/gay/celebrity on a top rated TV series!"

by Anonymousreply 222January 29, 2019 6:29 PM

r221 hi, welcome to the thread. You must be new here.

by Anonymousreply 223January 29, 2019 6:29 PM

Where is the bleach coming from? All the police report says is "chemical substance" which could be a 24oz cup of Pepsi for all we know.

by Anonymousreply 224January 29, 2019 6:30 PM

TMZ claiming the police have footage from a nearby target

by Anonymousreply 225January 29, 2019 6:30 PM

It has nothing to do with the media or twitter, r220 the numbers are from the FBI data.

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by Anonymousreply 226January 29, 2019 6:31 PM

This will quietly go away even though it shouldn’t. It’s fake.

by Anonymousreply 227January 29, 2019 6:31 PM

Twitter is OUTRAGED!@#

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by Anonymousreply 228January 29, 2019 6:32 PM

The mainstream Chicago media is now reporting this and the CPD says it’s investigating. I’m sure something happened but am doubtful it’s what Jussie reported. Just doesn’t sound right. We’ll see.

by Anonymousreply 229January 29, 2019 6:32 PM

Would bleach disfigure you? I don't think so. I often get bleach on my hands by accident...nothing happens.

by Anonymousreply 230January 29, 2019 6:32 PM

Actors do go out in the middle of the night...less people who bother/approach you...

by Anonymousreply 231January 29, 2019 6:33 PM

I bleach my hole and it's NEVER white enough

by Anonymousreply 232January 29, 2019 6:34 PM

Was it bleach? All we know is that it was a liquid. For all we know it could be something flammable.

by Anonymousreply 233January 29, 2019 6:34 PM

Chicago police just put out a statement that they are investigating an attack but there has been no allegation to them about the assailants using the term MAGA

by Anonymousreply 234January 29, 2019 6:35 PM

I don't know about disfiguring, but bleach burns the skin especially if it isn't rinsed off quickly enough.

by Anonymousreply 235January 29, 2019 6:36 PM

If it was acid, the perps would be Muslim (and this thread would be immediately deleted). But, the agenda is white. Jussie has it out for white people.

by Anonymousreply 236January 29, 2019 6:38 PM

Supposedly, Lee Daniels fainted when he got the news.

How dramatic.

by Anonymousreply 237January 29, 2019 6:38 PM

Lee Daniels is high 24/7

by Anonymousreply 238January 29, 2019 6:39 PM

CNNs article on their website is reporting than Don Lemon talked to Jussie Smollett.

by Anonymousreply 239January 29, 2019 6:40 PM

As a gay community what do we do???? If this happened to a straight black man there would be outrage in the african community but we just say, well that sucks and go on with our day...

Why are we never outraged and hit the streets?????

by Anonymousreply 240January 29, 2019 6:40 PM

White guys? Shouting MAGA? IN CHICAGO????? Get the fuck outta here. Never happened.

by Anonymousreply 241January 29, 2019 6:41 PM

Because we don't know the real facts Rose ^

by Anonymousreply 242January 29, 2019 6:41 PM

Here's the CNN article, but still has no new details.

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by Anonymousreply 243January 29, 2019 6:43 PM

R239, Don is quite familiar with Jussie's leaked nude photos.

by Anonymousreply 244January 29, 2019 6:43 PM

Don is a snow queen

by Anonymousreply 245January 29, 2019 6:44 PM

quote from CNN article

Later Tuesday, CNN's Don Lemon spoke to Smollett and a mutual friend who was at the hospital with the actor. Smollett confirmed the incident took place. He was shaken and angry that an attack like this could happen. Smollett told CNN he fought back at the attackers.

by Anonymousreply 246January 29, 2019 6:45 PM

[quote]As a gay community what do we do???? If this happened to a straight black man there would be outrage in the african community but we just say, well that sucks and go on with our day... Why are we never outraged and hit the streets?????

For many gay Black men it's about Sunday mornings and their mama's...

by Anonymousreply 247January 29, 2019 6:45 PM

Smolett's nude appeal is ... meh.

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by Anonymousreply 248January 29, 2019 6:45 PM

[quote]The idea that he created this story to tell the police rather than deal with a grindr hook up gone bad sounds ridiculous. I'm not super familiar with Smollett, but I am assume he is not a crazy person like you are relying to imply.

Gurlfriend, I know. Being an actor, he could have at least said he was walking his dog at 2:00 am and someone asked to borrow his cellphone.

by Anonymousreply 249January 29, 2019 6:46 PM

WE TOLD YOU TRUMP’S ELECTION WOULD INCREASE HATE CRIMES!!!

by Anonymousreply 250January 29, 2019 6:47 PM

OMG they kidnapped Jussie's dog R249? ;)

by Anonymousreply 251January 29, 2019 6:47 PM

Who is "we"? And who are you telling this to?

by Anonymousreply 252January 29, 2019 6:48 PM

I literally had to block half the posters on this thread. You are disgusting racist pieces of shit. I'd rather believe a story about a racist and homophobic attack and be wrong than to spout stupid shit like "this never happens today, obviously fake!" What is it about black people that is so threatening to you? And especially gay black people? Why can't we support one of our own for once instead of calling him a liar? I usually love Datalounge but this thread makes me sick. I really hope most of it is from Russian trolls, because if it's not... yikes.

by Anonymousreply 253January 29, 2019 6:48 PM

The thing is this sort of thing doesn't happen here in Chicago. Sure, there's some bad apples but that's not us. It's too out there.

by Anonymousreply 254January 29, 2019 6:48 PM

[Quote] As a gay community what do we do???? If this happened to a straight black man there would be outrage in the african community but we just say, well that sucks and go on with our day...

[Quote] Why are we never outraged and hit the streets?????

Because DL is dominated by white eldergays. Some in the LSA thread would rather focus on the attack as purely racist (some even leapt to deny it was homophobic). Why? Because they'd rather he not be gay. DLdergays would probably rather he not be gay as well. They'd also like him not to be black. They'd rather he were Quentin Crisp's Great Dark (White) Man. Only then would he escape their apathy.

by Anonymousreply 255January 29, 2019 6:48 PM

Please, please, OH PLEASE, dear GOD!!! Link this incident to Trump and the MAGA people!!!

by Anonymousreply 256January 29, 2019 6:49 PM

r255 you and posters like you are the most racist people on this site.

by Anonymousreply 257January 29, 2019 6:49 PM

Anything to avoid responsibily for the wave of fascism Trump is leading, R194.

Republicans could never be evil!

by Anonymousreply 258January 29, 2019 6:50 PM

R214 well, Taraji got in big trouble for comparing R Kelly to Weinstein, so...

by Anonymousreply 259January 29, 2019 6:52 PM

R253 calm down before you piss yourself

by Anonymousreply 260January 29, 2019 6:53 PM

R132 He may have been attacked, but there is no way it went down the way he said. Not even looking at race- when that skinhead idiot said he was attacked by two black guys I knew it was bullshit too.

The story he told is just very bad writing.

by Anonymousreply 261January 29, 2019 6:55 PM

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by Anonymousreply 262January 29, 2019 6:55 PM

why r259?Is Kelly still popular after all the scandal?

by Anonymousreply 263January 29, 2019 6:55 PM

A little scratch on his face at r262

Hmmmm

by Anonymousreply 264January 29, 2019 6:57 PM

R253 there are racists and homophobes out there, and sometimes they are violent. But the specific story he tells makes ZERO sense. I don't buy it for a second.

I can't believe anyone thinks it passes the smell test. It's comical.

by Anonymousreply 265January 29, 2019 6:57 PM

Presenting....

Miss Lee Daniels.

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by Anonymousreply 266January 29, 2019 6:58 PM

hate crime can happen anywhere. it happens in NYC too.

by Anonymousreply 267January 29, 2019 6:59 PM

R240 because the story reads like terrible writing. No way on earth is it remotely true.

Not a Trump supporter, or a racist, and I'm a homosexual. Holy shit, use your fucking brains.

by Anonymousreply 268January 29, 2019 6:59 PM

Chicago Police call out some of the TMZ reporting.

[Quote]A Chicago Police spokesperson told The Daily Beast that the attackers’ genders are unknown, and that their faces and hands had been covered. TMZ reported that the attackers shouted “This is MAGA country,” but police told the Beast, “There is no report of that being said.”[quote]

by Anonymousreply 269January 29, 2019 6:59 PM

His face has been DISFIGURED!@ This is worse than the Holocaust! It's exactly like the time those thugs carved a "B" for Barack Hussain Obama in that girl's face!@$#$

by Anonymousreply 270January 29, 2019 7:00 PM

R270 EXACTLY.

by Anonymousreply 271January 29, 2019 7:00 PM

R266 wow...it’s all about Lee Daniels isn’t it?

by Anonymousreply 272January 29, 2019 7:00 PM

R266 hahaha she is out of control.

by Anonymousreply 273January 29, 2019 7:01 PM

His face looks fine. Not too much damage. He got lucky.

by Anonymousreply 274January 29, 2019 7:02 PM

The basic premise that there are actually Trump supporters in Chicago is ludicrous enough on its face.

by Anonymousreply 275January 29, 2019 7:03 PM

With the police statements and the pictures and the interviews with his coworkers It is increasingly obvious that something happened. aand he was probably attacked. We will just have to wait to find out the details

by Anonymousreply 276January 29, 2019 7:03 PM

[quote]Empire is supposedly filmed in Chicago. I believe the Subway he went to is close to Trump Tower actually.

Wouldn't it be funny if the video footage came from Trump Tower?

by Anonymousreply 277January 29, 2019 7:03 PM

Which hotel was Jussie staying at?

by Anonymousreply 278January 29, 2019 7:04 PM

White male terrorism:

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by Anonymousreply 279January 29, 2019 7:04 PM

What if the attackers were RUSSIANS?

by Anonymousreply 280January 29, 2019 7:04 PM

Could the attackers have been these guys?

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by Anonymousreply 281January 29, 2019 7:05 PM

This story is no different than Morton Downey, Jr. getting attacked by "skinheads" in an airport (Mort carved a backwards swastika on his forehead,) Tawana Brawley getting raped, or that little cunt having a backwards B carved into her forehead by Obama supporters.

This kid is an attention seeking liar. The story he tells READS exactly like the stories of the above three people. It didn't happen.

by Anonymousreply 282January 29, 2019 7:06 PM

r235: I think the use of it was psychological. Even though bleach won't disfigure them, in the moment, the victim would be overcome with fear trying to determine if it's an acid attack and whether they're about to be set on fire when they realize it's not. For an attractive actor, I'd think an additional concern in that moment would be how the chemical on their skin would impact their looks and, as a result, their career.

r237: I wouldn't 'Mary!' him over this. A gay black man having a physical response to hearing of another gay black man (and one that he's befriended mind you) being beaten, having a rope tied around his neck, and having bleach poured on him seems pretty reasonable.

by Anonymousreply 283January 29, 2019 7:07 PM

They said you couldn't tell gender. I wonder if you could tell race if they're so covered up.

by Anonymousreply 284January 29, 2019 7:09 PM

"Aren't you that faggot 'Empire' nigger?"

No way was this said. No fucking way. You guys actually buy this?

by Anonymousreply 285January 29, 2019 7:09 PM

R269 I'm not surprised the story is already falling apart. A lot of hot takes on this on Twitter by celebrities will age badly.

by Anonymousreply 286January 29, 2019 7:11 PM

I have to agree with the others. White people don't watch Empire and don't know who he is.

by Anonymousreply 287January 29, 2019 7:12 PM

No, R283.

by Anonymousreply 288January 29, 2019 7:12 PM

[quote]How are Empire's ratings these days? Either number one, tied with the nearest competition or second place if it's up against Survivor. Still top rated on Fox. Try again.

The ratings have been steadily declining for a couple of seasons now. And The Simpson’s is Fox’s top rated show; Empire is a close second.

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by Anonymousreply 289January 29, 2019 7:14 PM

Hope r2 is hit by a truck

by Anonymousreply 290January 29, 2019 7:14 PM

The incident was report to have happened on the 300 block of East North Lower Water Street. The closest 24 hour Subway's is .2 miles away. Did they beat him up outside the Subway's or did they follow him for at least 5 minutes at 2AM in the freezing cold?

by Anonymousreply 291January 29, 2019 7:14 PM

I believe it, I don't think it comes off like the other cases at all. For one, Jussie does not have any history of being a liar, mentally ill, or attention seeking. r285 Not all the story is verified, in fact TMZ embellished about comments that were made and the police have corrected them, it doesn't mean the attack didn't happen at all.

Some people want to cling to anything to make Jussie a liar, but he didn't go to TMZ. The Grape Juice reported this and shortly after the Chicago PD verified it on twitter, TMZ then picked it up and embellished things that the PD has already said are untrue.

by Anonymousreply 292January 29, 2019 7:14 PM

R290: Make sure it backs up and hits R282 as well.

by Anonymousreply 293January 29, 2019 7:15 PM

I'm sure some of the early details will be wrong. And it may not be as horrible as it sounds right now. I think a lot of you will be regretting saying that you know for certain that nothing happened. Questioning it is one thing. Denying it is another.

by Anonymousreply 294January 29, 2019 7:16 PM

2am - bars are closing.

Any bars nearby, Chicago locals?

Drunk assholes on their way home spot Jussie.

It doesn’t seem that farfetched.

by Anonymousreply 295January 29, 2019 7:16 PM

Fuck you R2

by Anonymousreply 296January 29, 2019 7:16 PM

No, R285 I mean. Not R283.

by Anonymousreply 297January 29, 2019 7:16 PM

R295, Chicago doesn’t close at 2am

by Anonymousreply 298January 29, 2019 7:17 PM

B-b-but we thought taking [italic]Song of the South[/italic] away would make people less hateful.

by Anonymousreply 299January 29, 2019 7:18 PM

Police are now saying that he never told him what race they were. Or what gender

by Anonymousreply 300January 29, 2019 7:18 PM

[quote]But the specific story he tells makes ZERO sense. I don't buy it for a second.

Jussie himself hasnt said anything directly to the public yet, so all these "sources" close to him should be taken with a grain of salt. You all should know that TMZ and the blogs are just out here to generate traffic, and will do so at the expense of anyone. The story isn't even a day old so all the details aren't ironed out.

So you bitches can stop painting him as a stunt queen. He has never been known to be like that. He is well liked in Hollywood and Im not surprised that he is getting so much support.

by Anonymousreply 301January 29, 2019 7:18 PM

I think TMZ embellished the story with MAGA details for clicks. All that stuff about what they yelled at him is coming from them. As pointed out , he has yet to make a statement about this.

by Anonymousreply 302January 29, 2019 7:20 PM

Everyone getting their pr boost.

by Anonymousreply 303January 29, 2019 7:21 PM

R301 the whole story makes zero sense. The hospital picture is ABSURD. A small cut. And, he's making sad, groggy eyes while taking a fucking selfie.

The whole this is laughable.

by Anonymousreply 304January 29, 2019 7:21 PM

Yes that these were white Trump supporters shouting MAGA is a clickbait detail TMZ was pushing. The cops have said that is not what Jussie told them.

by Anonymousreply 305January 29, 2019 7:22 PM

TMZ lied to generate traffic? What a surprise!

by Anonymousreply 306January 29, 2019 7:23 PM

r302 Or more sinister, pro-Trump TMZ embellished knowing it would sound unbelievable and all the idiots would jump to the conclusion that Jussie made the entire thing up instead of waiting around for actual details to come.

by Anonymousreply 307January 29, 2019 7:23 PM

Damn. Subway? shit food. I expected better from him...

I totally believe this happened.

He wasn't taking a selfie. He was face timing with Lee.

by Anonymousreply 308January 29, 2019 7:24 PM

So TMZ made some shit up about his, and all the racists and homophobes flock here to gay bash and black bash the victim, blaming him. Typical DL. FF and ban, gurls. Muriel, some red tags please.

by Anonymousreply 309January 29, 2019 7:24 PM

Speaking of which, R308, did Jared get fat again in prison? That would be karma.

by Anonymousreply 310January 29, 2019 7:25 PM

Didn't he die or something?

by Anonymousreply 311January 29, 2019 7:25 PM

Where did the MAGA white thing come from? Grape Juice?

by Anonymousreply 312January 29, 2019 7:26 PM

R309 it has nothing to do with race. The way this reads is the EXACT way the attack on Morton Downey Jr read, or that little white cuntface who carved the backwards B into her forehead.

It's a fake story. Fake "attack." It never happened. TRUST ME it will all come out.

by Anonymousreply 313January 29, 2019 7:26 PM

I don't care how talented Jussie is, or how big his cock is, if he eats Subway, he is DEAD to me!

by Anonymousreply 314January 29, 2019 7:27 PM

[quote]Damn. Subway? shit food. I expected better from him...

It was 2am. Even in Chicago at that time of night you’re not going to have a ton of choices. Better than McDonalds.

by Anonymousreply 315January 29, 2019 7:27 PM

[quote]A Chicago Police spokesperson told The Daily Beast that the attackers’ GENDERS are unknown,

OMG!! Feeling so sorry for Jussie. First, he got gay bashed now he will go to jail for misgendering his attackers.

This is not fair

by Anonymousreply 316January 29, 2019 7:27 PM

r304, the "story" is only based on TMZ's questionable sources. They aren't the New York Times!

by Anonymousreply 317January 29, 2019 7:27 PM

Yikes.

It's so sad when Gays have to travel abroad to find a job. Chicago... really ???

You might as well be in New York City or that foreign country named Tennessee

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by Anonymousreply 318January 29, 2019 7:28 PM

He shoulda fought back. Actors are soft and not too bright. If you can't properly fight and draw blood, you're screwed. I was born and raised in flyoverland, but I know how to shoot and how to fight.

If you get ambushed or attacked always dig your nails into your attacker, or pull out their hair.

by Anonymousreply 319January 29, 2019 7:29 PM

TMZ is reporting exactly what Jussie told his friends. It's also likely what he told the Chicago PD, but I'm sure their policy is not to reveal details.

Smarten up, dum dums. Kid made it up. "Bleach" Gimme a break.

by Anonymousreply 320January 29, 2019 7:30 PM

Doesn't appear that Melanie's #BeBest campaign is a rousing success.

by Anonymousreply 321January 29, 2019 7:31 PM

R313: No. You're an anonymous bitch on the internet. There is no reason to trust you and EVERY reason not to. Sit down and shut up.

by Anonymousreply 322January 29, 2019 7:32 PM

I just saw this on CNN.

by Anonymousreply 323January 29, 2019 7:34 PM

R322 I give it about two more hours till the Chicago PD slams the lid on this case. I will come back here and gloat.

by Anonymousreply 324January 29, 2019 7:34 PM

Jussie's bitter exes must be on here today. I can't believe you all are on on here attacking the victim when the details are coming from Harvey of all people.

by Anonymousreply 325January 29, 2019 7:34 PM

You can bet Jessie I mean Jussie is panicking now. He never meant this to go national. Yikes.

by Anonymousreply 326January 29, 2019 7:35 PM

NYT did pick up the story tho.

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by Anonymousreply 327January 29, 2019 7:35 PM

Your desperation to blame Jussie for what TMZ posts is sad r320. The Chicago PD statement was clear, there was no report of that being said. That is not what he told them.

by Anonymousreply 328January 29, 2019 7:35 PM

R324: Keep masturbating in mommy's basement there, you homophobic lard ass. Harder. HARDER!!!

by Anonymousreply 329January 29, 2019 7:36 PM

The Chicago PD issued a press statement. They wouldn't put details in it typically.

by Anonymousreply 330January 29, 2019 7:36 PM

I read they also tossed a fetus at him, chanted "lock her up, build the wall" and then spat on a Quran they happened to be carrying.

This has all the hallmarks of one of those fake hate crimes that were reported after Trump got elected. I remember first hearing about those and my heart sinking at the prospect that the country was entering one long Kristallnacht, only to read that, one after one, they were disproven. All it does is give ammunition to the trumpkins that the libtards make up everything bad that the rightwing does.

by Anonymousreply 331January 29, 2019 7:37 PM

It will turn out to be two black thugs who beat him up and called him a “f*g”.

by Anonymousreply 332January 29, 2019 7:38 PM

R331: The fuck are you talking about? There were no made up hate crimes. And for the umpteenth goddamn motherfucking time, he didn't say ANY of this. TMZ did. Learn to read the thread, you trilling cunt troll.

by Anonymousreply 333January 29, 2019 7:40 PM

Has the Lesbian Community rallied around him, or are they racist as well as being Guarded?

by Anonymousreply 334January 29, 2019 7:41 PM

Jessie I mean Jussie at r333

by Anonymousreply 335January 29, 2019 7:43 PM

The hate crime that Jussie Smollett experienced is a major confluence of racism, systemic violence against LGBTQ+ communities, and an electorate that has been emboldened to act on the bigotry of comes from their little black hearts.

*sigh*

by Anonymousreply 336January 29, 2019 7:46 PM

“Jussie”?? Did his mother know he was gay at birth?

by Anonymousreply 337January 29, 2019 7:47 PM

[quote]Not a Trump supporter, or a racist, and I'm a homosexual. Holy shit, use your fucking brains.

Ohhh you're a homosexual! Oh my.

by Anonymousreply 338January 29, 2019 7:47 PM

[quote] He shoulda fought back.

I can just picture Jussie fighting

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by Anonymousreply 339January 29, 2019 7:47 PM

Also here’s the NYT article for those in denial. 🙄

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by Anonymousreply 340January 29, 2019 7:53 PM

R340, meet r327

by Anonymousreply 341January 29, 2019 7:54 PM

The NYtimes is reporting the police report, of course you'll notice they don't include the additional details TMZ threw in there.

by Anonymousreply 342January 29, 2019 7:56 PM

It’s either fake, or he was specifically targeted.

No way some random white thugs saw a random black guy in Chicago at 2am and recognized him as a gay Hollywood actor and attacked him with a noose and bleach.

by Anonymousreply 343January 29, 2019 8:01 PM

Are we sure it wasn't Black Israelites?

by Anonymousreply 344January 29, 2019 8:04 PM

Reason is reporting the same thing the cops told the Daily Beast

[Quote]"According to the victim, the offenders' faces were concealed," a police spokesperson told Reason. "We have no record indicating that [they shouted 'MAGA'], we only have record of them shouting racial and homophobic slurs at him."

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by Anonymousreply 345January 29, 2019 8:05 PM

[quote]we only have record of them shouting racial and homophobic slurs at him

How did they know he was gay?

by Anonymousreply 346January 29, 2019 8:06 PM

The incident occurred at a Subway close to Target. There's one on Broadway and Montrose, north of downtown.

by Anonymousreply 347January 29, 2019 8:06 PM

Sounds like a hookup gone wrong.

by Anonymousreply 348January 29, 2019 8:06 PM

So to all the asshole racists on this thread. Do you need confirmation that they were white because the faces were concealed? They confirm yelling racial slurs. So maybe they were black, right?

by Anonymousreply 349January 29, 2019 8:07 PM

They don’t exist, R349.

by Anonymousreply 350January 29, 2019 8:08 PM

[quote] They confirm yelling racial slurs. So maybe they were black, right?

Simple logic. Thanks, Spock!

by Anonymousreply 351January 29, 2019 8:08 PM

R347 Montrose and Broadway is nowhere NEAR downtown lol. More believable an attack would happen in that hood though.

by Anonymousreply 352January 29, 2019 8:09 PM

Hummmm, I am surprised it would happen in that neighborhood.

by Anonymousreply 353January 29, 2019 8:10 PM

What part of NORTH of downtown did you not get, r352?

by Anonymousreply 354January 29, 2019 8:11 PM

Milwaukee is also NORTH of downtown so who gives a flying fuck of your anecdote about Subways existing near Target?

by Anonymousreply 355January 29, 2019 8:12 PM

This is horrible especially the rope trying to strangle him and whatever was poured over his head. Did they know who he was?

by Anonymousreply 356January 29, 2019 8:13 PM

"[R347] Montrose and Broadway is nowhere NEAR downtown lol. More believable an attack would happen in that hood though."

R355, where in my post did I mention Broadway/Montrose is NEAR downtown?

by Anonymousreply 357January 29, 2019 8:15 PM

And yet we're supposed to be having a crisis where immigrants are pouring into our country to commit crimes and murder Americans. It's not the immigrants that Americans need protection from.

by Anonymousreply 358January 29, 2019 8:16 PM

Did dey put poo on hem?

by Anonymousreply 359January 29, 2019 8:16 PM

Everyone is saying "they were wearing ski masks so how did he know they were white." Maybe he saw the hands. And you scan see just enough of this person's face to tell he is white.

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by Anonymousreply 360January 29, 2019 8:17 PM

[quote] It's not the immigrants that Americans need protection from.

Honey, who told you colored folk that you were American? Haven't you heard Ann Coulter, Steve King, and Tom Brokaw, just to name a few....

by Anonymousreply 361January 29, 2019 8:20 PM

The attack happened DOWNTOWN you moron r357. So why the fuck would you think it’s relevant to bring up a Target in Uptown?

by Anonymousreply 362January 29, 2019 8:21 PM

[quote]It’s either fake, or he was specifically targeted.

From the details provided so far, it sounds like he was the specific target of a hate attack. Seems like they stalked him and waited until he was alone and isolated to strike. Very scary and Im sure he's shocked.

by Anonymousreply 363January 29, 2019 8:22 PM

[quote]Do you need confirmation that they were white because the faces were concealed? They confirm yelling racial slurs. So maybe they were black, right?

Plenty of blacks call each other the N-word. Listen to any rap song.

by Anonymousreply 364January 29, 2019 8:22 PM

Attention queens arguing about Chicago's geography - NO ONE GIVES A FUCK!

by Anonymousreply 365January 29, 2019 8:23 PM

Your mom’s an attention queen

by Anonymousreply 366January 29, 2019 8:24 PM

It wawas 2am after a long flight, and him being stuck on the tarmac for hours. His account of the attack could be skewed

I believe he was targeted. He posted his ordeal of being stuck on the tarmac, before heading to Chicago on social media. Did people not learn after what happened to Kim K to not post everything on social media?

by Anonymousreply 367January 29, 2019 8:25 PM

[quote]Seems like they stalked him and waited until he was alone and isolated to strike. Very scary and Im sure he's shocked.

Still seems kind of random. How did they know he was going to be hungry and go to Subway at 2am?

We’re they just gonna wait outside in the freezing weather with their ski masks and bleach just in case?

Story doesn’t make a lot of sense.

by Anonymousreply 368January 29, 2019 8:25 PM

[quote]This is horrible especially the rope trying to strangle him and whatever was poured over his head. Did they know who he was?

Of course they knew. Jussie hired them himself.

by Anonymousreply 369January 29, 2019 8:25 PM

"they need to poor bleach to clean urine as suggested up thread and become the next Darin Award finalist."

Oh, dear x 2!

by Anonymousreply 370January 29, 2019 8:26 PM

[quote]Everyone is saying "they were wearing ski masks so how did he know they were white."

They were blue eyed debbels.

by Anonymousreply 371January 29, 2019 8:27 PM

Read this thread from the local news. No video has been found. They looked. Then consider the multiple phone calls.

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by Anonymousreply 372January 29, 2019 8:28 PM

After reading everyone's comments on this, I've decided that this either happened or it didn't.

by Anonymousreply 373January 29, 2019 8:29 PM

[quote]Did people not learn after what happened to Kim K to not post everything on social media?

No. People think it’s smart to tell the entire world what you’re doing and where you’re going every minute of the day.

by Anonymousreply 374January 29, 2019 8:30 PM

They were definitely white, just like these two racist white males who shot little Jazmine Barnes in Texas in a violent hate crime.

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by Anonymousreply 375January 29, 2019 8:33 PM

I don't get why people got so mad when I said this was a fake. It's a very common thing.

You guys need to take a valium. It's a fake story. And by saying that I in no way mean to demean the struggle black people, or us gays have had to go though. This story happens to be a fake one. Get over it, ladies.

by Anonymousreply 376January 29, 2019 8:34 PM

I was sooooo waiting for, R375. MMPH! she didn't come until 375 postings? Are you scared, honey child?

by Anonymousreply 377January 29, 2019 8:36 PM

"Police have made "good progress" in their investigation, according to a CPD source."

translation

"Police realized right away that this was a completely fake story, but had to go through the motions anyway. They will soon stop pretending that it might be real"

by Anonymousreply 378January 29, 2019 8:37 PM

He's black, nothing to see here; doesn't really count as a homophobic crime since he's not white.

by Anonymousreply 379January 29, 2019 8:37 PM

I had friends who lived in the area and Streeterville is one of the last places in Chicago I'd expect a racist homophobic attack to take place. Or any sort of an attack for that matter. The streets become empty much earlier than midnight even. There were one or two motivated parties in this attack.

by Anonymousreply 380January 29, 2019 8:37 PM

[QUOTE]I don't get why people got so mad when I said this was a fake

Because you blamed Smollett for lying and trying to gain attention, with zero facts to back that up. You even defended TMZ, insisting they're reporting exactly what Smollett told friends, again with no facts to back it up, and ignoring the fact that TMZ has a long history of lying about stories to make them more click-baity.

by Anonymousreply 381January 29, 2019 8:39 PM

R379 it doesn't really count as a hate crime because it's a work of fiction.

How do you not read that account and realize immediately that it's completely fake?

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by Anonymousreply 382January 29, 2019 8:41 PM

If the attackers were completely covered up it's going to be hard to find them. I would think you could tell their genders from their voices though, unless it's some sort of über PC attempt to not offend the attackers should they be trans.

by Anonymousreply 383January 29, 2019 8:43 PM

R381 the only facts I need are to hear that fake account. Lee Daniels confirmed that that was his story while this dramatic MARY! video, did he not?

The whole thing is a joke. I mean, look at that still from the hospital.

If I was 25 years old and saw this story, I may have believed it. But I've been around too long now.

Jesstice for Jussie! I mean Justice for Jessie! I mean Justice for Jussie!

by Anonymousreply 384January 29, 2019 8:44 PM

[quote]How did they know he was going to be hungry and go to Subway at 2am?

Geotagging on social media makes it easy. And the fact that he was letting his whereabouts be known on social media right before it happened. If those hate letters to Fox News for him are real it was definitely a planned hit.

And I'll just put myself out there, but I just think some (well I think its just one bored troll here) is doubtful because he is a black male and you just don't want to believe someone took the time to follow and target him for a hate crime. Believe it or not, black men are not only attacked during drug disputes in the hood or by the police.

by Anonymousreply 385January 29, 2019 8:45 PM

I don’t care what color Jessie I mean Jussie is. I’d never believe this theatrical story from ANYONE.

by Anonymousreply 386January 29, 2019 8:50 PM

R386 Right. White people make this shit up just as often, MORE often. Stories ring true or they don't. This one don't.

by Anonymousreply 387January 29, 2019 8:55 PM

Sounds totally implausible. Fake.

by Anonymousreply 388January 29, 2019 8:56 PM

Um, of course it being random doesn't make any sense. That's because it was premeditated. Read the details. Doesn't mean it's made up.

by Anonymousreply 389January 29, 2019 8:57 PM

Of course Blind Gossip gets in on the action trying to protect the MAGA brand.

[quote] We are looking at all the evidence. There are more moving parts here than in a typical case, and it’s like putting together the pieces of a large puzzle. Right now, there are three pieces that don’t fit. That does not mean that his claim is fake. There were clearly threats and bodily harm. It simply means that we have more work to do to find the right pieces and uncover the truth.

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by Anonymousreply 390January 29, 2019 8:58 PM

I think he also faked that letter.

This hurts our side. You get everyone screaming red-faced about how this is a MAGA attack. And when it turns out to be fake, it gives MAGA idiots something to point to "Ya see how they are??"

Ugh.

by Anonymousreply 391January 29, 2019 8:59 PM

It's entirely possible Jussie is not even gay, but in fact a Lesbian.

by Anonymousreply 392January 29, 2019 9:05 PM

Jussie is also half-Jewish. Alert the ADL!! They need to get involved and voice more outrage!!!

by Anonymousreply 393January 29, 2019 9:08 PM

Paranoid words Snifff

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by Anonymousreply 394January 29, 2019 9:08 PM

This is fake as fuck. I live in Chicago and it is FUCKIN COLD! aint nobody out lookin for blacks to rob, especially on the north side! aint NOBODY vote for trump up there. Who the fuck would stalk this douche anyways or even recognize him?

by Anonymousreply 395January 29, 2019 9:09 PM

Omg r394! That's awfully suspicious posted a few days before this event occurred.

by Anonymousreply 396January 29, 2019 9:12 PM

R394: evidence of a psychotic episode happening.

by Anonymousreply 397January 29, 2019 9:12 PM

It's a fake story. The police know it, too.

Lee "He's my son (who I wish I could fuck)" Daniels better shoulda known better.

by Anonymousreply 398January 29, 2019 9:13 PM

Frauds are everywhere y’all.

by Anonymousreply 399January 29, 2019 9:20 PM

R395 Real talk

by Anonymousreply 400January 29, 2019 9:20 PM

Do any of you bitches think something doesn't smell right about this story?

by Anonymousreply 401January 29, 2019 9:26 PM

R401 Heaven forfend!

by Anonymousreply 402January 29, 2019 9:27 PM

Something smells racist, Cunt at r401.

by Anonymousreply 403January 29, 2019 9:29 PM

So everyone saying it's fake, what do you think really happened? Why do you think Jussie would resort to such stunts?

by Anonymousreply 404January 29, 2019 9:29 PM

Thank you, R402. You've just enriched my vocabulary today.

by Anonymousreply 405January 29, 2019 9:29 PM

Maybe he was attacked for some other shady reason - Grindr trick,drugs, whatever - and had to come up with an explanation for his family/friend/colleagues, R404. It might not have been his idea to report it to the police.

by Anonymousreply 406January 29, 2019 9:32 PM

This is why I hate Kamala Harris

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by Anonymousreply 407January 29, 2019 9:34 PM

Do ski mask wearing hoodlums watch TV dramas like Empire?

by Anonymousreply 408January 29, 2019 9:34 PM

R403 when this proves to be a 100% made up story, are the people who doubted it still racist?

In this case, I don't care about race. If he WERE attacked for being black/gay, I would be the first one to condemn and call for the perps to be arrested and put in a prison for a long ass time.

But, from the second I saw the "details" I knew it was fake. Nothing racist about it. His story didn't ring true on any level.

I'm a homosexual myself, I'm pro-black, I thought that pig who murdered Trayvon Martin should've been convicted- but this story is fucking FAKE. Sorry to use my critical thinking skills.

by Anonymousreply 409January 29, 2019 9:35 PM

It's a sad sign of what DL's become when MAGA trolls (or just old racists) insist it must be fake. If this was a random civilian I might doubt it. But do y'all not get Jussie Smollett is a lead on a hit TV show? If he was to pull an Ashley Todd it would be found out and his career would be OVER. He'd never work again. It's true and it's the times we live in with MAGA. It also appears to have been premeditated.

by Anonymousreply 410January 29, 2019 9:35 PM

R406 yeah. I was set up to be mugged during a drug buy. I told everyone I was mugged, but left the drug part out. My face was 10 times more beat up looking than his.

R410 it will come out as fake, and not impact his career at all. I'm the furthest thing from a MAGA troll, btw.

by Anonymousreply 411January 29, 2019 9:37 PM

The letter is just ridiculous...something you would only see in old movies like Who's Harry Crumb ("You find that crazy typewriter and you'll have your kidnappers")

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by Anonymousreply 412January 29, 2019 9:39 PM

R407: why Trump will win in 2020.

by Anonymousreply 413January 29, 2019 9:40 PM

Maybe not but you're insane, r411. He would be fired instantly.

You guys either don't get it or are in magical thinking land. Fake crimes ALWAYS get caught out fast. Jussie Smollett is a major TV star whose career is fine. He has zero motivation to torch his professional life knowing that in the age of social media that can and will happen faster than it did way faster than Ashley Todd or Morton Downey - and they didn't take long either.

by Anonymousreply 414January 29, 2019 9:40 PM

Just ban R382 and a good chunk of this thread disappears. Good riddance. Jussie is not Morton Downey fucking Jr. you twat!

R413: Die a wicked death, Trump supporter.

by Anonymousreply 415January 29, 2019 9:41 PM

Jussie has a huge dick, so why would anyone want to hurt him.

by Anonymousreply 416January 29, 2019 9:42 PM

R414 WHEN, not if, this is shown to be fake, he'll go to counseling. He will not be fired from his show, nor should he be.

He was feeling unimportant, and neglected. He may have been using coke. This was his way of becoming a part of a bigger movement. He's not well, psychologically. In some ways it was for sure a cry for help.

by Anonymousreply 417January 29, 2019 9:43 PM

r409 very few living gay people actually call themselves "homosexual".

by Anonymousreply 418January 29, 2019 9:43 PM

How come in that Tweet in R394, it says he was posting from Chicago on January 27th?

I thought he just landed in Chicago last night, hours before the “attack”??

Even more that doesn’t add up about this story.

by Anonymousreply 419January 29, 2019 9:44 PM

R415 why would you "ban" a person for telling the truth?

by Anonymousreply 420January 29, 2019 9:44 PM

R419 the whole thing is a big mess.

by Anonymousreply 421January 29, 2019 9:44 PM

Hmmmmm

Jail on his mind

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by Anonymousreply 422January 29, 2019 9:45 PM

Drugs + mental illness. This is a fake. People need to to stop reacting so quickly on twitter to these things. I really want Trump gone in 2020 & this doesn't help.

by Anonymousreply 423January 29, 2019 9:45 PM

R423: No you don't. No one believes you . Fuck off.

by Anonymousreply 424January 29, 2019 9:47 PM

He seems to be in the midst of a psychotic breakdown.

He likely injured himself, and went to the hospital... and made up this whole delusional story.

by Anonymousreply 425January 29, 2019 9:47 PM

Jussie Smollett is the NEW Frances Farmer!

by Anonymousreply 426January 29, 2019 9:48 PM

To believe he made up this whole thing out of thin air you have be to believe he is batshit crazy and willing incinerate his career. I'm not going to assume that unless proven otherwise.

by Anonymousreply 427January 29, 2019 9:49 PM

Do you actually believe this shit? God he didn't even try. Sounds more like some rough trade got out of hand.

by Anonymousreply 428January 29, 2019 9:49 PM

Thank you for being rational, R423.

by Anonymousreply 429January 29, 2019 9:50 PM

Read this thread from Chicago

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by Anonymousreply 430January 29, 2019 9:50 PM

The picture of him at r262, with only a "scratch" that looks like it could be wiped away in an instant with a washcloth, is why I don't believe his story. If he had really gotten attacked, he would've been busted up much worse than that. But of course he wasn't, because his face is his moneymaker.

by Anonymousreply 431January 29, 2019 9:51 PM

R427 not "batshit crazy" but mentally ill and having some problems.

He will not, NOT be fired over this. I don't really blame him so much as a blame the people who hopped on this and played up the MAGA aspect. They will wind up making our side look foolish.

by Anonymousreply 432January 29, 2019 9:52 PM

Kamala SO badly wants this to be a lynching so she can pose as Martina Luther King.

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by Anonymousreply 433January 29, 2019 9:52 PM

Was there a fake Vietnam vet Indian banging a drum nearby?

by Anonymousreply 434January 29, 2019 9:53 PM

R431 and I posted my doubts LONG before that absurd hospital picture.

The story just reads fake. It sounded like every fake story like this I ever read.

by Anonymousreply 435January 29, 2019 9:53 PM

[quote]not "batshit crazy" but mentally ill and having some problems.

So batshit crazy, You just used nicer words. Being an actor on a successful TV show and making up a story like this would be crazy. IF that is what happened he is crazy.

by Anonymousreply 436January 29, 2019 9:54 PM

Two racists sit around watching Empire?

by Anonymousreply 437January 29, 2019 9:55 PM

I'll be the lone contrarian. I think he was attacked for real but have my doubts that it was racially motivated.

by Anonymousreply 438January 29, 2019 9:55 PM

If this turns out to be fake... Stephanie Ruhle should be fired for her crying, over the top, outburst on MSNBC over this “fake news” story.

by Anonymousreply 439January 29, 2019 9:55 PM

Rob Elgas

@RobElgasABC7 13m13 minutes ago

CPD also says: when Smollett contacted police at 2:42AM, he was still wearing the rope around his neck. The alleged encounter occurred at 2AM. Police have the rope and it will be analyzed.

by Anonymousreply 440January 29, 2019 9:56 PM

He's an actor.. I'm always a little skeptical. If it's true, it's terrible. If he made it up, it's terrible.

by Anonymousreply 441January 29, 2019 9:57 PM

So he kept the rope around his neck for 45 minutes?? This story gets more ridiculous by the minute.

And yes r441, he is an actor, so he's good at pretending things aren't what they seem.

by Anonymousreply 442January 29, 2019 9:58 PM

Most of us believe that, R438.

by Anonymousreply 443January 29, 2019 9:59 PM

Smollett didn’t contact police; a “friend” did...

Here are a few things that we can share: • A man who identified himself as "Frank" called 911 around 2:32 a.m. Tuesday from a luxury apartment at 340 East North Water Street. • The man stated that his friend had been assaulted and battered when he walked outside of his apartment, according to dispatch records. Frank stated that his friend is "well-known" and they want a report. Frank stated that a noose was placed over his friend's neck. There is no mention of bleach in the dispatch record. • Frank refused EMS services for Smollett, according to dispatch records. • Officers were on-scene at the apartment for slightly more than an hour. From experienced observers, the most interesting part of the dispatch records is this: Responding officers never issued a "flash message" to give descriptions of the offenders to units in the field.

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by Anonymousreply 444January 29, 2019 10:00 PM

I'm having trouble believing that there's Subway shop open at 2 a.m....

Then there's the bit about two WHITE men walking around Chicago of all places with a noose and bleach looking for a fringe gay black celebrity to attack. Talk about having a major death wish...

by Anonymousreply 445January 29, 2019 10:01 PM

wait. the noose is confirmed by the police. only the comments aren't, right? they definitely targeted him plus those letters...I believe those were sent to Chicago.

by Anonymousreply 446January 29, 2019 10:02 PM

Not saying that a MAGA racist wouldn't hurt a PoC - of course they would. Those letters, a noose & bleach + a "attack" in subzero temps in the wee hours of the morning though? This is so fake. His social media is odd too. He was going through something...but an attack no. Outrage culture is out of hand & even my beloved Bernie Sanders tweeted out support , without waiting for the facts to come in. Social media + instant outrage does equal an abundance idiotic hot takes. Wait for the facts and actual reporting.

by Anonymousreply 447January 29, 2019 10:03 PM

R445 Police confirmed MAGA comments. hahahaha.

by Anonymousreply 448January 29, 2019 10:03 PM

[quote]I'm having trouble believing that there's Subway shop open at 2 a.m....

Man these threads go in circles since no one reads prior posts.

24 hour Subways are decently common. There are many in Chicago.

by Anonymousreply 449January 29, 2019 10:03 PM

[quote]No way some random white thugs saw a random black guy in Chicago at 2am and recognized him as a gay Hollywood actor and attacked him with a noose and bleach.

You do realize that his TV show films in Chicago and has for years. You might not know it but people in Chicago do.

by Anonymousreply 450January 29, 2019 10:05 PM

It's a very odd story especially as they haven't found any video evidence to back it up.

by Anonymousreply 451January 29, 2019 10:08 PM

The FBI is now involved.

[quote]The Federal Bureau of Investigations is now taking over the Chicago attack of "Empire" star Jussie Smollett after it was confirmed that an earlier threat was made towards the actor. Chicago Police confirm to ABC News that the threat made to Smollett before Tuesday morning's brutal attack was in the form of a letter and that the investigation has been taken over by the FBI. Smollett was hospitalized earlier today in what authorities are investigating as a "possible hate crime."

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by Anonymousreply 452January 29, 2019 10:11 PM

And now the FBI is involved.

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by Anonymousreply 453January 29, 2019 10:11 PM

True or not...he seemed pretty smug in an interview I saw of him. Hope he's ok/healing in whatever case.

by Anonymousreply 454January 29, 2019 10:11 PM

Since the FBI is involved, we can expect a Trump tweet or two, right?

by Anonymousreply 455January 29, 2019 10:12 PM

It isn't fake. He was targeted! Some cunt sent a letter and then waited for him!

by Anonymousreply 456January 29, 2019 10:13 PM

How many days until the fake is exposed? I say three.

by Anonymousreply 457January 29, 2019 10:14 PM

So now he didn’t even go right to the hospital.

He went back to his apartment where the “friend” called police but refused an ambulance.

And doesn’t it seem strange that attackers left the “noose”, the attack weapon, with him? I mean, why leave evidence like that with the victim? Just seems illogical, like the rest of this fake story.

by Anonymousreply 458January 29, 2019 10:14 PM

Why wasn't the FBI involved since FOX received the letter?

by Anonymousreply 459January 29, 2019 10:15 PM

FBI will shut this down real fast.

He’s gonna be sorry he made this all up.

by Anonymousreply 460January 29, 2019 10:16 PM

R47, ever been to Chi Town? Chicago is filled with descendants of Polish, Irish, and Italian immigrants. They wore in the police departments, fire departments, and have dibs on union and other city jobs.

Some of the BIGGEST bigots and racists that I have ever met, are from Chicago.

The whites there hate everyone, including Middle Easterners, who have been steadily joining the community. I hope they catch these pieces of shit. What worries me is that they were wearing masks. They probably planned to attack someone that night, saw him, pulled on their ski masks, grabbed their noose, bleach, waited for him to exit Subway, and went to work.

I would not at all be surprised if these two guys worked for the city, or even the CPD. They wore masks for a reason.

by Anonymousreply 461January 29, 2019 10:16 PM

R461 is delusional.

by Anonymousreply 462January 29, 2019 10:18 PM

His handlers will claim he's had a psychotic episode, so he shouldn't be "blamed". A few weeks of "rehab" or "care", a sesh with Ellen, and he'll be good to go again.

by Anonymousreply 463January 29, 2019 10:18 PM

Oh, FFS, fuck off, r462.

by Anonymousreply 464January 29, 2019 10:20 PM

YOU SHOULDN'T GRINDR ON AMBIAN!

by Anonymousreply 465January 29, 2019 10:21 PM

Maybe his trick tried to rob him?

by Anonymousreply 466January 29, 2019 10:23 PM

Was he beaten in front of the Subway? Reports say the incident happened on Water St and the closest 24 hour Subway is on McClurg Ct which is .2 miles away. A five minute walk at 2AM on a freezing Chicago night.

The story doesn't make sense.

by Anonymousreply 467January 29, 2019 10:24 PM

R452 FBI ain't no joke. We'll know within a few days if this was legit or not.

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by Anonymousreply 468January 29, 2019 10:25 PM

What r467? All your information proves in that at least in terms of geography his story fits.

by Anonymousreply 469January 29, 2019 10:28 PM

R445 I'm a doubter, but there are 24 hour Subways in LA, so I assume in Chi-town too.

by Anonymousreply 470January 29, 2019 10:29 PM

Jussie's shorts just got awful messy when he heard the FBI was now involved.

I feel badly for him, actually. Again, it's the MARY! reactions that are really the problem.

by Anonymousreply 471January 29, 2019 10:31 PM

There are three 24 subways here in fucking Baltimore, can we please move past that detail.

by Anonymousreply 472January 29, 2019 10:31 PM

NBC Nightly News is gonna run with story in a bit. Didn’t they learn anything from the MAGA kids? Even my husband (more liberal than me) says he can’t believe that’d happen where it happened and how it happened. At least not RANDOMLY.

by Anonymousreply 473January 29, 2019 10:34 PM

Yeah R463 no way he gets fired over this. Nor should he be.

As much as I hate getting older, I have to say it DOES give you something of a superpower. As soon as I read the first line of this story, I recognized it as a very specific kind of lie. There was zero doubt in my mind that it was made up, because I've seen this a million times before. And, the truth just has a special sound to it.

Also, knowing he would never in a million years be fired over this. I just know.

by Anonymousreply 474January 29, 2019 10:34 PM

The guys who jumped him were already out looking for someone to fuck up, or the owner of the car had these items in the vehicle, saw Jussie, and asked his buddy if he wanted to kick some Hollywood dude’s ass, and the other guy went for it. They parked their car, waited for Jussie to exit Subway, and jumped out of the car, and jumped Jussie.

It wasn’t random.

by Anonymousreply 475January 29, 2019 10:35 PM

from the r444 link-

[quote] From experienced observers, the most interesting part of the dispatch records is this: Responding officers never issued a "flash message" to give descriptions of the offenders to units in the field. Police have made "good progress" in their investigation, according to a CPD source...

by Anonymousreply 476January 29, 2019 10:36 PM

I mean clearly law enforcement is working from the assumption that for this to occur it had to have been a targeted attack from people stalking him, the same people that sent him the prior letter.

by Anonymousreply 477January 29, 2019 10:37 PM

R475 you don't actually believe that, do you? Just to remind you, we live in reality. We're not characters on a badly written TV show.

by Anonymousreply 478January 29, 2019 10:38 PM

You all are forgetting that all black guys look the same to white men, especially at night in the dark.

No way two random white thugs saw this black guy at 2 man and had any idea who he was or that he was gay.

by Anonymousreply 479January 29, 2019 10:39 PM

Jussie?

by Anonymousreply 480January 29, 2019 10:39 PM

Given the upscale location, there should be plenty of surveillance footage.

What's the delay?

by Anonymousreply 481January 29, 2019 10:40 PM

Bye Bye 2020.

by Anonymousreply 482January 29, 2019 10:41 PM

Oh, shut it, r482.

by Anonymousreply 483January 29, 2019 10:47 PM

R393 Didn't know he was biracial. It makes his comments about not wanting to date a white person on his show, and presumably in real life, even more disappointing.

by Anonymousreply 484January 29, 2019 10:50 PM

Falsifying a police report might be a crime.

by Anonymousreply 485January 29, 2019 10:50 PM

[quote]His handlers will claim he's had a psychotic episode, so he shouldn't be "blamed". A few weeks of "rehab" or "care", a sesh with Ellen, and he'll be good to go again.

Uh no. You guys talk about him making it up as if it is a some minor thing that of course people do.

Filing a false police report is a crime. Lying to the FBI is a crime. For something like this that is high profile they wouldn't just let it go, they would prosecute him.

As I said earlier. To make this up he would have to be crazy.

by Anonymousreply 486January 29, 2019 10:51 PM

R482 I don't believe Jussie, but I don't think it will impact the 2020 elections at all.

R485 it is ,but no way they'll prosecute.

by Anonymousreply 487January 29, 2019 10:51 PM

[quote]but no way they'll prosecute.

Don't know what makes you say that

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by Anonymousreply 488January 29, 2019 10:52 PM

R486 look at this social media in the last few weeks. Doesn't seem like he was thinking too much through.

I doubt he will lie to the FBI. It will all go away like Joy Reid saying the Internet Wayback Machine was hacked.

by Anonymousreply 489January 29, 2019 10:53 PM

He is so hot.

by Anonymousreply 490January 29, 2019 10:53 PM

I don't think he was really going to subway.

Did the report say, he was attacked after visiting subway?

I think he was going to a hookup.

by Anonymousreply 491January 29, 2019 10:53 PM

Hahahaha R488 Thanks. I was just typing "What was that YouTuber's name who made up that assault story a few years ago.?"

by Anonymousreply 492January 29, 2019 10:54 PM

Was the sandwich okay?

What happened to the sandwich?

by Anonymousreply 493January 29, 2019 10:55 PM

R488 that was a PERFECT example. I knew as soon as I saw that story that he was lying too.

He looks about as beat up as Jussie does in his hospital selfie. Look how his eye is half closed, and he tries to make the wires connected to the finger heart monitor seems much more serious.

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by Anonymousreply 494January 29, 2019 10:56 PM

[quote]No way two random white thugs saw this black guy at 2 man and had any idea who he was or that he was gay.

All of that is completely irrelevant if it was planned attack, and from the details released so far the evidence points to it being premeditated and planned.

by Anonymousreply 495January 29, 2019 10:56 PM

Is his name pronounced juicy?

by Anonymousreply 496January 29, 2019 10:56 PM

[quote]Didn't know he was biracial. It makes his comments about not wanting to date a white person on his show, and presumably in real life, even more disappointing.

I think some people don't want to believe him because they just don't like him. He is a douchebag sometimes but that doesn't mean he deserves to be the victim of a hate crime.

by Anonymousreply 497January 29, 2019 10:59 PM

[quote][R331]: The fuck are you talking about? There were no made up hate crimes

Oh my sides!

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by Anonymousreply 498January 29, 2019 11:00 PM

That BITCH stole his story from me. *I* was the one that was viciously attacked first.

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by Anonymousreply 499January 29, 2019 11:00 PM

To what end was this a planned attack? What did the attackers want to accomplish? What is the motive?

This was planned alright. By Jussie.

Jesstice for Jussie!

by Anonymousreply 500January 29, 2019 11:00 PM

R499 YES thank you. Another "attack" that read just like this one to me.

by Anonymousreply 501January 29, 2019 11:01 PM

No hoax hate crimes!

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by Anonymousreply 502January 29, 2019 11:01 PM

Sorry, wrong link -- here it is

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by Anonymousreply 503January 29, 2019 11:02 PM

Saying that the attack happened 45 minutes prior to when the call to the police was made seems like an odd detail if this is indeed a false claim, since it doesn't lend any credibility to the story. Quite the opposite. Unless it took the "Frank" mentioned at R444 that long to convince him to file a report.

Could this "Frank" be someone that he is dating? Maybe Jussie made up a story for his benefit?

by Anonymousreply 504January 29, 2019 11:03 PM

[quote]Filing a false police report is a crime. Lying to the FBI is a crime. For something like this that is high profile they wouldn't just let it go, they would prosecute him.

They will let it go. He is obviously mentally ill.

by Anonymousreply 505January 29, 2019 11:03 PM

When I really want to wallow in the stupidity of people I make a bee-line for the DL comment sections. Any one will do but I must say, this one is especially vile and moronic today.

by Anonymousreply 506January 29, 2019 11:04 PM

My favorite is the Columbia University professor who put a noose on her office door. She wasn't aware of the cameras. The funniest part is CU wouldn't release the footage until subpoenaed.

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by Anonymousreply 507January 29, 2019 11:05 PM

[quote]Unless it took the "Frank" mentioned at [R444] that long to convince him to file a report.

Is that what the young guys are calling them now? We used to call them "johns." I'll try that tonight. Hello, I'd like a visit from Frank.

by Anonymousreply 508January 29, 2019 11:06 PM

I think it happened

by Anonymousreply 509January 29, 2019 11:07 PM

I believe Jussie, I guess I am in the minority here.

by Anonymousreply 510January 29, 2019 11:07 PM

Oh, Christ! Not ANOTHER Method Actor.

by Anonymousreply 511January 29, 2019 11:09 PM

Things that appear to be confirmed: That there are 24 hour Subways in Chicago. And that Jussie apparently went out and came back inside with a rope and the rope exists because the cops saw it.

by Anonymousreply 512January 29, 2019 11:11 PM

[quote]That there are 24 hour Subways in Chicago. And that Jussie apparently went out and came back inside with a rope and the rope exists because the cops saw it.

Here in New York, we call that a normal night with Stephen Sondheim.

by Anonymousreply 513January 29, 2019 11:14 PM

This thread is exactly why R Kelly has stolen young girls from their families and kept them in Chicago for DECADES.

No one believes young black people when they report crimes, so they continue without any justice. That is probably why it took him 45 minutes for "Frank", who is probably his boyfriend, to report it. They probably thought no one would believe it.

by Anonymousreply 514January 29, 2019 11:16 PM

[quote]The picture of him at [R262], with only a "scratch" that looks like it could be wiped away in an instant with a washcloth, is why I don't believe his story. If he had really gotten attacked, he would've been busted up much worse than that. But of course he wasn't, because his face is his moneymaker.

Yes, the picture gives me pause. It doesn't looks like someone's face that was jumped and beaten up. Just one superficial cut.

by Anonymousreply 515January 29, 2019 11:16 PM

Sharpie Sharpton just demanded that Trump denounce Jussie's attackers. Did he learn NOTHING from Twanna Banana?

by Anonymousreply 516January 29, 2019 11:16 PM

R514 sorry, but you're an idiot. Read the fucking account. It didn't fucking happen.

Jesus.

by Anonymousreply 517January 29, 2019 11:17 PM

I feel like when there attacks on black people that don't pass the smell test, most of the black community will believe them immediately and fully regardless. If there's an attack on a gay person, though, and I think it sounds fishy, I (as a gay man) will say so, and will not give the person the automatic benefit of the doubt. Maybe race is a stronger "glue" than sexuality - which makes sense, because black people tend to grow up surrounded by people like themselves, while we grow up around...well, mostly straight people.

by Anonymousreply 518January 29, 2019 11:18 PM

[quote]I believe Jussie, I guess I am in the minority here.

The internet does, except for Datalounge which is - as pointed out before in other threads - kind of racist.

Now, you can't actually point this out or else those people will tell you that you're at the best "imagining things" and at the worst, also racist.

Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of great normal people here but there also a lot of trolls and they flood into threads like these.

And don't confuse these with people who have a healthy, "let's see what happens" attitude. They're fine.

It's the people ignoring the fact that he was already getting death threats, who have decided that he is mentally ill, because no one ever gets gay bashed in Chicago, while saying that every report is false including the police report, and that no one ever goes outside at 2 AM because they're bored and hungry, who think that the hospital, the police department and the FBI are all barking up the wrong tree because they KNOW it's all a lie instead of actual professionals who think that it's worth pursuing, that are the problem.

[quote]He looks about as beat up as Jussie does in his hospital selfie. Look how his eye is half closed, and he tries to make the wires connected to the finger heart monitor seems much more serious.

Also McSwaggin (that youtuber who faked his bashing) was outed as a liar by the hospital, the police, witnesses and his own FRIENDS within hours. This is NOT the same thing.

by Anonymousreply 519January 29, 2019 11:20 PM

4:00 PM PT -- ABC7 in Chicago says cops confirmed Jussie told them about the attackers yelling, "MAGA country." They add, cops say Jussie still had the rope around his neck when he made contact with cops at 2:42 AM.

Remember, the attack happened around 2 AM.

He kept a noose on 42 minutes & didn't call police for the same length of time. OK then...

by Anonymousreply 520January 29, 2019 11:20 PM

[quote] This thread is exactly why R Kelly has stolen young girls from their families and kept them in Chicago for DECADES.

Barry, when the fuck did R Kelly become a producer on this show? I WILL Bill Cosby your ass.

by Anonymousreply 521January 29, 2019 11:21 PM

R519 It's pretty much the same thing. Sorry.

by Anonymousreply 522January 29, 2019 11:22 PM

R522, You don't need to be sorry for being wrong.

by Anonymousreply 523January 29, 2019 11:23 PM

[quote]Sharpie Sharpton just demanded that Trump denounce Jussie's attackers. Did he learn NOTHING from Twanna Banana?

Sharpton has learned NOTHING his entire life. He’s a fool.

by Anonymousreply 524January 29, 2019 11:24 PM

The cops are being tight lipped because he's a celebrity (of sorts). This is so obviously untrue people...please.

by Anonymousreply 525January 29, 2019 11:25 PM

Is Juassie's contract in negotiation?

by Anonymousreply 526January 29, 2019 11:26 PM

R519 and, pretty much any comments section on the fake attack has critical thinkers who doubt the story. So, your narrative that Datalounge is the only one, and therefore RACIST AND HOMOPHOBIC is just wishful thinking on your part.

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by Anonymousreply 527January 29, 2019 11:26 PM

Thoughts and prayers. Have a blessed day.

by Anonymousreply 528January 29, 2019 11:26 PM

R515 but look at how his eyes are half closed, and how SAD he looks!!

by Anonymousreply 529January 29, 2019 11:27 PM

The authorities have recovered Jussie's pants from the scene of the crime.

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by Anonymousreply 530January 29, 2019 11:27 PM

So was it just a rope or was it actually tied in a noose? Also, if the assailants had rope, maybe they were trying to kidnap him.

by Anonymousreply 531January 29, 2019 11:28 PM

If he faked it... the FBI has already figured it out.

by Anonymousreply 532January 29, 2019 11:31 PM

If I could figure it out just on hearing the story, surely the FBI knew pretty damn quickly.

by Anonymousreply 533January 29, 2019 11:33 PM

I really liked the first season of Empire. It went downhill very quickly.

by Anonymousreply 534January 29, 2019 11:37 PM

Is it just me but does anyone else notice his co-stars are being quiet? Rafael tweeted support but most of the rest of his co-stars haven't said much.

by Anonymousreply 535January 29, 2019 11:42 PM

I can see that there is no real lace for POC in "gay land". I'm glad that it is being upended by Trans now.

by Anonymousreply 536January 29, 2019 11:42 PM

R535 'cause they know him.

by Anonymousreply 537January 29, 2019 11:44 PM

Except that one queen who gave the crying performance.

by Anonymousreply 538January 29, 2019 11:46 PM

[quote]Is it just me but does anyone else notice his co-stars are being quiet?'

We're too busy listening in on his Apple Facetime. Gurlfriend gets around!

by Anonymousreply 539January 29, 2019 11:52 PM

[quote]Is it just me but does anyone else notice his co-stars are being quiet?

Yep. They know he’s cray-cray.

by Anonymousreply 540January 29, 2019 11:52 PM

Hmm, I just checked Taraji's twitter and she has been silent today which seems unusual.

by Anonymousreply 541January 29, 2019 11:53 PM

I feel badly for him. You have to be pretty messed up to do this.

by Anonymousreply 542January 29, 2019 11:58 PM

Years ago an ex leaked his nudes.

Jussie is messy but he's got a nice big dick.

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by Anonymousreply 543January 29, 2019 11:58 PM

Sexy sluts

by Anonymousreply 544January 29, 2019 11:59 PM

Kamala has weighed in, calling it a lynching.

by Anonymousreply 545January 30, 2019 12:03 AM

Kamala is going to regret weighing in on this.

by Anonymousreply 546January 30, 2019 12:04 AM

...why r546? If it turns out Jussie was lying, that is on Jussie to take responsibility for.

by Anonymousreply 547January 30, 2019 12:05 AM

She hasn't said anything on her Twitter.

by Anonymousreply 548January 30, 2019 12:06 AM

Considering how cold it is in Chicago and that Smollett could have had a multi-course delivered to him by limousine with a chef to prepare it tableside, it seems like he was out and about for other reasons, which may have went south.

by Anonymousreply 549January 30, 2019 12:06 AM

[quote]Is it just me but does anyone else notice his co-stars are being quiet? Rafael tweeted support but most of the rest of his co-stars haven't said much.

I one respect, I hope this crime did not happen, but then I’m also worried it’s going to turn out to be another hoax, which sucks for victims of real hate crimes. The people who stage fake assaults are as compulsive and predictible as hypochondriacs and animal hoarders. If there’s a pattern of attention-getting behavior and/or a Trump obsession involved, people close to JS probably know what’s up.

by Anonymousreply 550January 30, 2019 12:06 AM

R549, yes every person with money always has meals sent by limousine and prepared tableside when it's late and they are hungry.

You dumb piece of shit.

by Anonymousreply 551January 30, 2019 12:15 AM

[quote]I just checked Taraji's twitter and she has been silent today which seems unusual

Suspicious.

by Anonymousreply 552January 30, 2019 12:18 AM

[quote] yes every person with money always has meals sent by limousine and prepared tableside

And that's why I LOVE Chicago!

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by Anonymousreply 553January 30, 2019 12:18 AM

[quote]Reports say the incident happened on Water St and the closest 24 hour Subway is on McClurg Ct which is .2 miles away.

I would have fixed him a sandwich ...

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by Anonymousreply 554January 30, 2019 12:19 AM

The thread at r430 says now that the FBI isn't investigating

[quote] NEW: @ABC reports the FBI has taken over the Jussie Smollett case in Chicago.

[quote] Chicago police say my previous tweet is inaccurate. Apologies for the mistake. [bold]The investigation remains with Chicago police[/bold]

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by Anonymousreply 555January 30, 2019 12:21 AM

Apparently the investigation into Smollett's attack remains a Chicago affair.

They passed along the letter to the FBI for them to investigate.

by Anonymousreply 556January 30, 2019 12:23 AM

If he had done it to himself, what was he trying to bleach, and why not leave that to the professionals?

by Anonymousreply 557January 30, 2019 12:23 AM

[quote]Smollett, 36, was walking alone in the 300-block of East North Water Street around 2 a.m. when two people he didn't know started yelling racial and homophobic slurs at him, police said.

[quote][bold]When Smollett contact police at about 2:42 a.m. he was still wearing the rope around his neck[/bold], Guglielmi said.

Hmmmm....

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by Anonymousreply 558January 30, 2019 12:28 AM

Bleach, unlike sulfuric acid, does not permanently disfigure one’s face. Lucky for him.

by Anonymousreply 559January 30, 2019 12:29 AM

In that photo at r558, he still has the rope around his wrists.

by Anonymousreply 560January 30, 2019 12:30 AM

It wasn't as cold as people are claiming in Chicago last night, I was out late and it was about 12F, it dropped to 5F in the morning and doesn't get brutally cold until tomorrow morning, when it goes down to -20F. Yes it was very windy but not as bad as has been claimed, people were out and about. Right now it's -2F, feels much worse than last night when I was out until after midnight finishing up some shoveling.

by Anonymousreply 561January 30, 2019 12:32 AM

[quote]Considering how cold it is in Chicago and that Smollett could have had a multi-course delivered to him by limousine with a chef to prepare it tableside, it seems like he was out and about for other reasons, which may have went south.

It doesn't matter if he was going out to get food, or going out to get laid. A hate crime is a hate crime. Just like sexual assault is sexual assault. You can't beat up a black person and put a rope around their neck without it being a hate crime. If someone did indeed do that to him, it is a hate crime.

If you are using a hook-up app and the person you meet robs and beats you, that is considered a hate crime and it can be investigated by the feds.

by Anonymousreply 562January 30, 2019 12:34 AM

Just saw on CNN that Oprah is taking over the investigation

by Anonymousreply 563January 30, 2019 12:36 AM

[quote]If you are using a hook-up app and the person you meet robs and beats you, that is considered a hate crime and it can be investigated by the feds.

Even if it's by a gay person?

by Anonymousreply 564January 30, 2019 12:47 AM

All of these people tweeting about it offering sympathy. If it’s fake, that’s too bad.

by Anonymousreply 565January 30, 2019 12:48 AM

r562 -

[quote]If you are using a hook-up app and the person you meet robs and beats you, that is considered a hate crime and it can be investigated by the feds.

That isn't considered a hate crime unless there's some racially motivating factor. It doesn't automatically get classed as a hate crime just because the person being targeted is black.

by Anonymousreply 566January 30, 2019 12:51 AM

Can we really believe that two people wearing MAGA hats would last five minutes on the streets of Chicago? Some guy just got thrown off an airplane for wearing one.

by Anonymousreply 567January 30, 2019 12:53 AM

why does everyone think they were wearing MAGA hats??? NO ONE has alleged that

by Anonymousreply 568January 30, 2019 12:55 AM

[quote]He kept a noose on 42 minutes & didn't call police for the same length of time. OK then...

R520, [bold]Around[/bold] 2 AM. Means around 2 AM. It could have been 2:05 AM. It could have been 2:15 AM. He could have been getting the crap kicked out of him at 2:20 AM, they could have run away at 2:35 AM. Perhaps he didn't check his watch.

The police said they're asking for anyone who was in the area that saw something between 1 AM and 3 AM. That's the window they've set.

No actor would pour a caustic substance on themselves.

by Anonymousreply 569January 30, 2019 1:00 AM

R567 The initial report was that the assailants yelled “This is MAGA country,” not that they were wearing hats... although that was per TMZ, so - grain of salt.

by Anonymousreply 570January 30, 2019 1:02 AM

Social media has killed the ability to think critically

by Anonymousreply 571January 30, 2019 1:03 AM

How did they even recognize him ? Was he bareheaded in frigid temps ? No scarf or hat or a big coat ? Was he staying in the luxury apartment with "Frank" ? They had NO food at all? I just cant wrap my head around going out in 12f for any reason,much less a crappy subway sandwich. Also,did he take the rope off to clean the bleach and then put it back on? Who would do that ?Nope,I dont believe this for a second. He probably was attacked,but not like he said.

by Anonymousreply 572January 30, 2019 1:03 AM

[quote]That isn't considered a hate crime unless there's some racially motivating factor. It doesn't automatically get classed as a hate crime just because the person being targeted is black.

Balderdash r566. Hate crimes can also be motivated by homophobia.

by Anonymousreply 573January 30, 2019 1:03 AM

I bet the Black Israelites did it.

by Anonymousreply 574January 30, 2019 1:05 AM

Surely there are security cameras? Does he live in hotel? There must be so many in such a big city...

by Anonymousreply 575January 30, 2019 1:06 AM

If he was lured there for sex or drugs, it all makes much more sense that he’d go out in frigid weather at 2AM and that the attackers were ready with rope and bleach. If so, they probably thought he would not report the attack due to the stigma of drugs/anonymous hook-ups. Still a hate crime though.

by Anonymousreply 576January 30, 2019 1:12 AM

r573 Yes. My point was that it isn't AUTOMATICALLY a hate crime just because the person is a member of a protected group. That was the actual point of what I said.

by Anonymousreply 577January 30, 2019 1:13 AM

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

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by Anonymousreply 578January 30, 2019 1:15 AM

[quote]No actor would pour a caustic substance on themselves.

Has this part been confirmed- that there was a substance, possibly bleach, used?

by Anonymousreply 579January 30, 2019 1:15 AM

well, if bleach was used, they would have dripped down his clothing...and they would be bleached.

by Anonymousreply 580January 30, 2019 1:17 AM

Didn't he go to the hospital? Wouldn't they have run tests to see what liquid was poured on him?

by Anonymousreply 581January 30, 2019 1:19 AM

Did they take an anal sample?

by Anonymousreply 582January 30, 2019 1:22 AM

He doesn't want to date white guys in real life, which is his prerogative. We like what we like. But, after finding out he doesn't even want his FICTIONAL television character to date a white man, I no longer care if Smollett lives or dies, or gets beaten once a week and twice on Sundays.

by Anonymousreply 583January 30, 2019 1:23 AM

[quote]I just cant wrap my head around going out in 12f for any reason

Good grief, pass the smelling salts - I bet you don't get out of bed for less than five hundred dollars either

by Anonymousreply 584January 30, 2019 1:24 AM

[quote] A Chicago police spokesperson tells CNN that investigators canvassed the neighborhood where the reported attack occurred on actor Jussie Smollett and have found no still images or video from security cameras of the incident.

[quote] A dozen police detectives with the assistance of the FBI are working the case on Tuesday, according to police spokesperson Anthony Guglielmi.

[quote] The only image of Smollett police obtained from security cameras was inside Subway Sandwich shop near the location of the reported crime, the actor was standing alone.

[quote] Chicago police say Jussie Smollett did not mention the alleged attackers shouting, “This is MAGA country” during the initial police interview. Investigators heard the claim in media reports and called the actor. He later relayed it to detectives in a supplemental interview.

[quote] Police say they are testing the chemical Smollett claimed to have been doused with and have yet to confirm the nature of the substance.

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by Anonymousreply 585January 30, 2019 1:24 AM

The assailants may have yelled that is this is magnificent mile country, which would make more sense given the context.

by Anonymousreply 586January 30, 2019 1:25 AM

high on opiods?

by Anonymousreply 587January 30, 2019 1:25 AM

The person to start Part Two of this mess should add a poll. Real / Fake / Other (explain) /Vivian Vance, or whatever the fuck. I am intrigued to see at this point how many think this really happened, or how many think this was cooked up for whatever reason.

by Anonymousreply 588January 30, 2019 1:28 AM

Kamala is going to be sooooooooooooooooo embarrassed.

by Anonymousreply 589January 30, 2019 1:29 AM

More shady stuff

[quote] Tonight @ABC7Chicago has learned Jussie Smollett requested responding Chicago police officers turn off their body cameras as they arrived to take his report. A spokesman says this is not uncommon when officers enter a private residence.

[quote] CPD spokesman says, per department policy, officers informed Smollett they were wearing activated body cameras. He did request the cameras to be turned off

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by Anonymousreply 590January 30, 2019 1:29 AM

It was Ben Affleck and Matt Damon

by Anonymousreply 591January 30, 2019 1:29 AM

Uh, that's suspicious.

by Anonymousreply 592January 30, 2019 1:29 AM

It was Tom Arnold and Tim Allen

by Anonymousreply 593January 30, 2019 1:34 AM

From the same Twitter acc, at r590

[quote] Police responded to the initial call from a man who was with Smollett inside an apartment. He would eventually self-transport to Northwestern Hospital.

So..he was with some man in an apartment and didn't want the police have their cameras on, hmmm

by Anonymousreply 594January 30, 2019 1:35 AM

Seemed like a good idea at the time

by Anonymousreply 595January 30, 2019 1:36 AM

This stunk of fake news from the get-go.

by Anonymousreply 596January 30, 2019 1:37 AM

What was he doing in an apartment with a man?

by Anonymousreply 597January 30, 2019 1:37 AM

so it's a private apt. surely there are security cams. did he arrive back at the apt with noose around his neck?

by Anonymousreply 598January 30, 2019 1:37 AM

Not buying it

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by Anonymousreply 599January 30, 2019 1:38 AM

he's got to be a sloppy bottom.

by Anonymousreply 600January 30, 2019 1:38 AM

Auto-erotic asphyxiation?

by Anonymousreply 601January 30, 2019 1:39 AM

r598 from the link at r585 "investigators canvassed the neighborhood where the reported attack occurred on actor Jussie Smollett and have found no still images or video from security cameras of the incident"

by Anonymousreply 602January 30, 2019 1:39 AM

Before this closes can someone post the link to part 2? Or has it not been created yet? I

by Anonymousreply 603January 30, 2019 1:44 AM

it's so cold. everyone is bundled up...hard to see faces unless it's very good footage.

if he fought back, there must be DNA under his nails etc?

by Anonymousreply 604January 30, 2019 1:44 AM

Fake noose?

by Anonymousreply 605January 30, 2019 1:59 AM
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