In what Universe people thought that George Michael was NOT gay?

I remember vividly being a child and the Wake Me Up Before You Go Go video premiered. It was obvious to this kid that he was a bit different from other rock stars.

OP wtf? Are you high? I thought I was the worst DL writer with my should of’s Instead of should have’s. You even top my title. Your sentence structure is awkward. Help DL Grammar Nazis.

Leave the man alone. I loved his music and it brought a lot of joy into my life. Let the poor tortured soul rest in peace.

Watcha talkin about Willis, he was super macho

R3 he still has not have a proper burial.

It was a different time. Same for Ricky Martin.

For me the biggest shock was that he WASN’T a woman 😳

I’m still sad he’s gone

In what universe did people think

All I know is my sister found him to be as attractive as I did.

I love him in that video.

In those days it was hard to tell. It was fashionable for straight men to wear bright colors and make-up and to style their hair meticulously

2016 was his Last Christmas

He just annoyed me at the time, I couldn't have cared less if he was gay. Come on, Wake Me Up Before You Go Go is one of the most obnoxious songs ever.

Exactly, R14.

I see your Wake me up, and raise Club Tropicana

It was just an '80s thing really, George didn't look any more gay than many other singers.

I thought he was gay all the way back to WHAM UK, so I was confused when he made the 'I Want Your Sex' video and they said that was his girlfriend.

I had no idea Rock Hudson was gay until he got AIDS.

[quote]It was just an '80s thing really, George didn't look any more gay than many other singers.

True, I thought Simon Le Bon was gay and voila, he isn't.

I was in junior high school when “Wake Me Up” came out, and as soon as I saw those frosted tips I knew.

Agree, R20, although he cannot dance

Who [italic]didn't[/italic] look gay in the 1980s?

It's so hard to convey how little visibility there was for gay people. If you were gay, sure, he is obviously gay. But if you weren't gay, the gays around you kept mum and maybe the signs weren't evident or were deliberately ignored. I love that younger people cannot imagine how shitty things were. I know we have a long way to go, but at least we're progressing to seeing more than the dominant group in popular culture.

George Michael had went on tv when I was ten. Young, my thoughts around him was very cute. I had no thought about no gay thing.

Hope you can read this post, OP. I wrote it especially for you.

In the Midwest, there were no "out" gay people in my community. I first saw GM when I was 8 years old and had never seen a gay man before and knew nothing of gay culture. I didn't even know what gay meant. No one would tell me. How did anyone in small town America, especially a kid who likes pop music, know that someone was gay when no one ever talked about it and we didn't know any gays? Gosh, it was really a different time. Also, all the beautiful women in GM's videos didn't help clarify his sexuality.

People were naive in those days. Very, very naive.

GOD DAMN he was beautiful!

R28 Yes, he was!

I was there. It was thrilling! 3:06, just thrilling!

Beautiful for friendship but poison to date someone said. Does anyone have the before and after pics of him? Handsome but aged so fast I thought

Stop being a dick, OP. WE knew!

In OP's link @ 2:22. WOW! Beautiful.

@R30 I'm jealous!!!

Man I bet he was a delight to be had in his younger years.Any DL get with him ?

People didn't see the gay behind The Village People. It was the 80s, we were too busy looking at Boy George and going WTF is that to assess whether George Michael was gay.

Although, the first time someone told me about Wham, they said it was two gay guys singing. But I had lived through Air Supply, so i wasn't sure I was ready to believe them.

[quote]Any DL get with him ?

Do you think we are so low class that we would go cruising on Hampsted Heath? Puh-leeze. We do have our standards.

Talented,Rich and loves to fuck.

R36 He loved in LA and was visiting bath rooms.And bath houses in NYC..Dude was out on the scene since a teen

It’s not like nobody was talking about it.

I was also in junior high when wham hit the USA and he was being slurred by the many of the usual suspects. It was the Faith era that threw many off, but not this 80s gayling!

R36 No you dont

His gayness puts a new spin on lyrics such as “I will be your father figure, put your tiny hand in mine.” George was obviously into little men...

Remember when Frank Sinatra. basically told GM to shut the fuck up

@41 George's hands always seemed rather delicate--not small hands but just not large either. So that lyric is a mystery, though Father Figure is one of my favorite songs. maybe it was figurative language in that lyric?

Elton John Father Figure

Somebody at VH1 must have been on George Michael's payroll because they played the "Kissing A Fool" video all the damn time. Like every half hour.

He was so beautiful in that video!

[quote]I thought he was gay all the way back to WHAM UK, so I was confused when he made the 'I Want Your Sex' video and they said that was his girlfriend.

r18, uhm, is everyone here just going to ignore that he said he was bisexual, but used the term 'gay' because he preferred relationships with men?

R47. It's hard to say because he spent so many years in the closet and it was a very different time. Some of his girlfriends weren't real relationships but PR for videos and MTV. Also, he grew up in a time that wasn't as accepting of gays so while he dated girls and women, it's unclear if he did that because he thought he had to socially or because he was really attracted to them. As far as I remember from interviews, it took him a while to understand he was gay because of the way he grew up. But yes, I also remember him saying that while he had sex with men and with women, he only wanted to have relationships with men and that's how he knew he was gay.

George has been dead for over two years. People still getting trigger over him.

I was 12 when Wake Me Up Before You Go Go was released and I found both him and Andy super sexy. It was impossible to say who was gay or not at the time, besides Boy George, since most male singers wore tons of make-up and wore garish clothes. I suspected Nick Rhodes of Duran Duran being gay more than George Michael.

George Michael was a music god. He's the face of the late 80's early 90's. His music will stand the test of time. The end of his life was really quite sad. I wish he could've found happiness. He was a lost soul.

r48, I would agree with you if the interview wasn't many years after he had already come out as gay. Honestly, so much of the stuff he said sounds exactly like all the bi guys talking about how they are sexually into both but can only have relationships with women, only in reverse.

[quote]His argument is that although they have sex with other men, they are emotionally monogamous. But here comes another George Michael revelation... sexually, he swings both ways, "When I walk into a restaurant I check out the women before the men, because they're more glamorous. If I wasn't with Kenny, I would have sex with women, no question," he enthuses. "But I would never be able to have a relationship with a woman because I'd feel like a fake. I regard sexuality as being about who you pair off with, and I wouldn't pair off with a woman and stay with her. Emotionally, I'rn definitely a gay man."

A female friend of my old friend used to date George Michael in the late 80s. My friend told me in 1989 or 1990 that George Michael had ended the relationship telling the girlfriend he's now gay. My friend was a model and knew people everywhere. I assumed George Michael's girlfriend was a also a model.

Uranus and Pluto

I think the fact that every big 80s male pop star/group (Michael Jackson, Prince, Duran Duran, etc.) was being called gay helped to give George Michael a lot of cover. At some point, you just sort of learn to tune it out.

Does this look gay?

I miss when male stars dressed flamboyantly, colorfully and imaginatively. Now everyone looks pretty normcore even the young people.

If he really wanted to have sex with women after he came out then he would have; he has never been in a monogamous relationship ever. He was a sex addict. Couldn’t get enough cock ever. That’s just him talking bullshit which he often did from time to time. Also people tend to forget that he really struggled with being “gay” and that kind of shit doesn’t suddenly leave you whe. You come out.

To me it is clear he was gay; he just had issues about it even after he came out. He wasn’t some kind of homoeomantic bisexual or whatever

R58. I agree. He also wanted to keep selling records and knew most of the people who bought his records and attended his concerts were females of a certain age. He didn't want to lose their interest by killing the fantasy that they had a shot. He was too smart of a businessman to say anything to completely kill the fantasy of the women who were his biggest fans. That was an issue going way back. To claim to have no attraction to women would make much of his music seem false to the women in the audience. Also, he was a tease.

I imagine that if George Michael had been straight he would have even more successful. Had a real career going instead of being caught up in his own demons way before his time.

He loved cock

Up until the late 70s, nobody really thought about famous people being gay. I remember Elton John coming out as bisexual and everyone was like "Shut up and sing. We don't care about your sex."

R59 good point. But not even that Ive met other guys who talk about women in a similar way; “oh I could fuck her. Easy” and it’s like then why don’t you huh? They have a masculinity complex about being “able” to fuck a woman even if they are queenie bottoms sometimes

I guess no one knows what "heterosexual presumption is."

How ignorant people are about recent gay history.

R64 please explain. I don't know what that is.

R22 He’s never gonna dance again.

Andrew and George looked like lovers in Last Christmas. Andrew looked more like a girl than the girls in the Club Tropicana video. There was something gay about them .

George must be bi sexual, because some of you are getting upset at the thought. Not all gay people are the same. To be honest George said things in interviews that was insulting to gay people.

That was part of what made George an alluring fantasy, an artist, and a great entertainer--he was so maddeningly unknowable. All these mixed messages and mixed signals seemed part of an elaborate seduction. "George Michael" was a stage name and an invented persona, after all.

This is the guy who'd go around having unprotected sex with others, because he didn't want to get tested and then would say, it wasn't his fault, if he gave them anything.

He cruised me when I passed him on the Old Brompton Road in London, way back in the 80s. After, I would say to people that he was gay and they just wouldn’t accept it. Particularly before social media straight people could live in a bubble and very little would burst it. They were staggeringly naive. To the point of being wilfully stupid. How come only now so we get a documentary giving credence to evidence that Jackson was a paedophile ?

[quote]I was also in junior high when wham hit the USA and he was being slurred by the many of the usual suspects. It was the Faith era that threw many off

This really threw people off?

Yes, because he was pretending to be a pussy hound drooling over broads during that era.

He clearly liked to blur the lines for $$$

If he cruised you in the 80's. Why did you go to the Sun because they were paying for stories then.

Like I stated in another thread. You all are just saying this because George turned out to be gay after all. Now everyone is saying I know when you didn't know shit.

Coming out as Gay was a career killer at that time, it still is today in many professions unfortunately.

Those pretending nobody was talking about the possibility as early as at least 1984 are the ones full of shit.

I don't know if I didn't know or just didn't care.But sadly it sounds like some of you are saying that him being homosexual killed him or didn't work out for him

Back when he was "dating" Brooke Shields and the Chinese lady from the "I want your sex" video.

George Michael was screwed up mentally by his Father who was a total Homophobe. GM had one of the greatest voices of this century.

Imagine being cruised by Faith era George Michael.

I love him dearly and hope he is finally at peace.

Guilty feet, it is said, have got no rhythm.

Geri Halliwell still thought he was straight and she might have a shot with him, I remember her saying it in some documentary made right after leaving the Spce Girls.

If I remember it right it was shown on TV right before his LA 'incident'.

Calvin Klein, Elton John, George Michael, and every enormous queen of that era pretended to be straight. Only straight people were anywhere near fooled. Even boy George coyly alluded to "a girl" and Morrissey claimed to have no sex life at all. Different times.

How many out heartthrobs are there today? I can't think of any - but you know they exist.

Same as it ever was. At least George did come out in the 90's - which was still a pretty bold and brave thing to do then. Before Ellen I believe - and she didn't exactly have it easy.

Much easier if you're British than American though

Apparently the same Universe that believes Meryl didn't know about Harvey.....or can act....or isn't a cunt.

George Michael was straight until Ree made a pass at him. That turned him gay in an instant.

R78 She was Korean. They had tons of sex together and did tons of drugs together as well.

R89 we’ll yea, I often had to get drunk in order to duck chicks when I was in the closet.

George mentioned this in one of his more candid interviews (with Attitude which is a gay magazine)....

"Later, the whole thing with Kathy was... okay, it was ecstasy-fuelled. But it was totally real. She was in love with me but she knew that I was in love with a guy at that point in time. I was still saying I was bisexual. It was a relationship that was basically fucked up. She was fully aware of my sexuality and when the drugs run out and I had to work, well, then the relationship ran out with them. And she was the only female that I ever brought into my professional life. I put her in a video [l Want Your Sex]. But I was e-d off my tits half the time. Of course she looked like a beard. I thought she looked like that myself at the time! I don't even remember how I felt at that time. It was all such a mess, really. My own confusion and then on top of that what I was prepared to let the public think."

Oh, George was a HOT mess. A HOT HOT HOT mess who used the shit out of his ecstasy-fueled beards and got paid millions by MTV for it. He was a beautiful man and a talented artist. I still remember him writing the words "Explore Monogamy" on his beard's legs and ass in the "I Want Your Sex Video." He actually explained it was a serious statement about being faithful in relationships. HAAAAA!

Would he have sex with just anyone in Hampstead Heath or did he have a type?

Yes and Yes. Yes, he would have sex with anyone, and yes he also had a type. I remember an article in some cheap rag with a story on one of the men he hooked up with, randomly. I was shocked that George's hook-up for the night was a fat old dude who didn't seemed bathed, not at all attractive and who lived in or cruised in a van with a dirty mattress in back! And yet, in relationships, George generally went for good-looking rent boys. Then, there was also the unfortunate story of George and his gimp mask at various hotels, too high to realize he had the wrong room and security was involved.

George Michael age progression in real photos from 0-53.

No George had to get drunk and high to fuck men. Also some of these stories are from the Sun magazine. Like really this is your source for entertainment or proof. Also George said out his own month in interviews. That it's easy to pay for male sex That way when your finish they can leave. In the same interview George say that never paid for female for sex. It came natural for me with then. I couldn't do that to a female. Will look for that interview because George also called gay sex demeaning. I suggest that some of these poster read George's interviews and not the tabloid. Because I now see George in a whole new way compare to last year.

Say what???

R89: No. Kathy Jeung is Chinese (not Korean) and still looks great. Shame George Michael didn't age as well.

Never could understand why George needed drugs to have sex with men. Being in the closet so long really messed with his head as well as being so good looking in his prime. Unfortunately George wasn’t able to find that someone special to make him feel fulfilled. The more he got lost the more he lost his ability to write magical songs. Too bad he didn’t have someone in his life to stand up to him and tell him like it really was instead of yes people. Of course, anyone with balls he eliminated from his life.

George was a complex guy but had the voice of an angel.

Boy George always referred to him as a "camp act" from the very beginning.

r85, he didn't come out on his own I don't think. He was caught in a bathroom in a park? Someone help me, I was rather young.

Me and my friends were from a different universe and we thought he was straight. One of my friends even had his picture in her locker. I of course wasn't surprised. But I knew that Ricky Martin was straight he was my dream man and would eventually marry me.

How about this one. My sister and I thought Boy George was just having fun dressing up like that. My mother was double taking when she saw his video on MTV.

Nice Greek cock!

[quote]George was a complex guy but had the voice of an angel.

Yeah, call me when he has a high grossing biopic made of this career.

Regardless of George’s complex life he certainly had a beautiful voice. His life is a tragedy. I wonder had he been of a different time his life would have been easier.

R53 Bullshit. I was friends with one of his boyfriends in the early ‘80s. Even then, he dated women publicly because the record label required him to. It’s also why he broke up with my friend - but he continued to cruise the baths and parks.

R106 So did George really have relations with the women he dated? I always assumed he dated his beards but took it no further.

It was the same universe in which we all thought that Rob Halford was straight. It's so obvious now, but at the time it was a big surprise. It made everything I loved about Judas Priest ten times better! It all made sense, but I still feel like a moron for not seeing what was in front of my own eyes the whole time.

R74 - presumably you are attempting to ask why didn’t I go to The Sun ? It never occurred to me because I’m not a cunt.

As for claiming ‘ benefit of hindsight ‘ and all...no, some of us just aren’t fucking stupid and don’t moronically lap up everything fed to us.

Fuck you and your frau fan fantasies.

R109 Why on earth would you have gone to the The Sun? Especially back then. Everyone was and is entitled to their privacy and personal life. Even George Michael.

R109 Check your Meds!

I like some of your fan fiction. I know one if his boyfriend s yeah ok. Why go to the Sun? They were offering big bucks and if these " relationship" happen during Faith. Your friend could have made ton's of money. I also I have George old interviews and they are very telling to say. It's no wonder George would brush pass the Wham years. I guess he thought people throw out his magazine with him in then. Nope

Is David Austin gay?

[quote]Calvin Klein, Elton John, George Michael, and every enormous queen of that era pretended to be straight. Only straight people were anywhere near fooled. Even boy George coyly alluded to "a girl" and Morrissey claimed to have no sex life at all. Different times.

r84, but Klein and Michael acknowledged they were bisexual. And apparently, even though he identifies as gay, John says he is sexually attracted to women sometimes.

oh give up on tour little bisexual crusade. Klein is a fag. So was the insecure George and Elton john is as bi as my big toe. It’s boring now.

R112 Because it was nobody’s business - least of all fat fraus who masturbate endlessly to Elvis, George Michael and every other male they find attractive. Bunch of damn fag hags you obsess, stalk and threaten every one because - well. You’re a bunch of psychos. Why do you think gay men have pretend girlfirends? Yeah, stupid cunts *like you*. Anyything to get rid of you.

Not that it stops you dumb bitches. These days, you break into their houses, send death threats. You’re unhinged mental cases. And here you are. Endless posting your delusions. What a surprise. Go get a vibrator.

He's still straight to me

R116 Take your meds dear. You are now beginning very boring at this time.

R118. Let’s share yours! Deluded fraus have more than enough for everyone.

It was obvious but for the younger kids in their 20s reading here, this was the 1980s and early 1990s, musicians and rock stars, as well as people in society at large were all presumed to be heterosexual, and for musicians they were just thought to be eccentric or artists so they could act however they wanted. Also, society as a whole except for certain small sections of large cities was not accepting of bisexual and gay men. Most gay and bisexual men were very discreet, not super out, and we were out to certain people such as very close friends or family members; but not necessarily a boss, most co-workers, etc. There was no internet as we know it today, no social media, etc. people had privacy and this includes celebrities.

R114, Elton said he can tell when a woman is beautiful or attractive; but that he's never had any sexual attraction to a woman or any women. That's what it's like if you are gay. My friends who are gay men who have had sex with women, or who were at one time married to women said how it is like this, that they had to think about men the entire time in order to get aroused, finish, and often times they would make up excuses for why they did not want to have sex with their girlfriend or wife. They are not bisexual but are gay and back then when they were closeted or even in denial they thought that having sex with a woman would make them heterosexual, or that there was no way they could be gay/homosexual as they were not effeminte/cross dressers, etc. One gay friend of mine said how in the late 1970s as a teen/young adult he knew he was gay but had no idea how to go about finding men to have sex with, and he had a girlfriend at the time who he had sex with as it was better than nothing but that sex with her just showed him how he is gay and not sexually attracted to any women at all. He did not come out until he was an adult but this is or was common.

Back then being out as bisexual or gay-sadly was a career killer, and even Elton John did not officially come out until well into the 1990s. Also anything associated with bisexual and gay men was associated with HIV/AIDS. CK is gay, he identified as different sexual preferences-anyone remember this term before sexual orientation?-not because he was actually bisexual; but because of $$$, and his brand of designer clothes, colognes, perfumes, etc.

I was in middle school when Make It Big came out. EVERYONE knew he was gay.