The promo is already showing some nudity, and we have Avan Jogia and Tyler Posey as boyfriends.
Coming in March
The promo is already showing some nudity, and we have Avan Jogia and Tyler Posey as boyfriends.
Coming in March
|by Anonymous||reply 600||03/26/2019|
Having just watched the trailer I'm still not sure what the fuck it's about.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||01/16/2019|
Gregg Araki sucks
|by Anonymous||reply 2||01/16/2019|
[quote]Having just watched the trailer I'm still not sure what the fuck it's about.
When did any Araki movie make sense, aside from Mysterious Skin?
|by Anonymous||reply 3||01/16/2019|
Sighs. All the straight sex on display, all the gay sex in the shadows. I'll pass. If you can't even make a fucking trailer where a main gay character is shown in good light kissing and fucking, but your frau sidekick can, to me this is doomed (pun intended).
|by Anonymous||reply 4||01/16/2019|
Fuck this straight shit. None for me, I thank you.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||01/16/2019|
Awesome. Araki is hit and miss — but the pilot he did for an aborted MTV series was hilarious!
|by Anonymous||reply 6||01/16/2019|
I’m 100% IN. I’m getting Stars for this shit. Can’t wait. Guess I’m super basic. Bring it the fuck ON!
|by Anonymous||reply 7||01/16/2019|
I'm kinda surprised that Tyler Posey isn't playing one of the leads.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||01/16/2019|
Gregg Araki still has a career? Now that is shocking news!
|by Anonymous||reply 9||01/16/2019|
Avan Jogia has a big dick, do we get to see it in this film?
|by Anonymous||reply 10||01/16/2019|
free download later. Sad.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||01/16/2019|
We've seen Avan Jogia's dick. And Tyler Posey's. And Beau Mirchoff's.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||01/16/2019|
r4 needs to put on his glasses cuz if you can't see the gay shit in this trailer your eyeballs are the problem
|by Anonymous||reply 13||01/16/2019|
I saw the gay shit just fine. They're in the dark (as I said) and play 1/3 of the time as the straight ones, even though this is implied the gay character is one of the protagonists. So fuck this shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||01/16/2019|
r12 You're right there's really no reason to watch this. What can softcore network porn show us that we haven't already seen?
|by Anonymous||reply 15||01/16/2019|
That looks truly awful.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||01/16/2019|
[quote]We've seen Avan Jogia's dick.
In what film? I don't know much about him, not my demo. But he is gorgeous, has great hair and looks hung,
|by Anonymous||reply 17||01/16/2019|
So this is not a gay series like Looking? It has many co-leads and hottie Tyler is a supporting character. The gay couple is not the central story but one of the stories... meh....
Looking is still the standard for American gay series. And Looking came out after the Trans brigade that destroyed many gay narratives on tv, which makes Looking even more impressive.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||01/16/2019|
It does have a 90s feel that is very nostalgic. Apart from Tyler, it seems like everyone else is Bisexual. I'll skip through the straight sex. Yuk.
Evan and Tyler ...MMMMMMMM
|by Anonymous||reply 19||01/16/2019|
I'm always happy to see Gregg Araki's work. But it seems to me Gregg has already done this story and these characters before. A few times.
THEN Apocalypse, maybe.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||01/16/2019|
[quote]Sighs. All the straight sex on display, all the gay sex in the shadows. I'll pass. If you can't even make a fucking trailer where a main gay character is shown in good light kissing and fucking, but your frau sidekick can, to me this is doomed (pun intended).
r4, Araki is bi and more into women, the gay content is used to garner attention.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||01/16/2019|
I can't tell if that is supposed to be funny or if you don't know a damn thing about Gregg Araki r21.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||01/16/2019|
Well at least we'll get some good gifs out of it.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||01/16/2019|
|by Anonymous||reply 24||01/16/2019|
What's Gregg done lately?
From Gregg Araki's IMDB profile-
He directed a few episodes of Netflix's "13 Reasons Why" and one episode of "American Crime - Season 2" with DL fav Connor Jessup. And other TV stuff.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||01/16/2019|
Well I guess I could watch it with earplugs, so I don't hear the inane dialogue. And just see the pretty people.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||01/16/2019|
R26 not a bad idea.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||01/16/2019|
The trailer ain't enthralling, but his "Mysterious Skin" was a stunner.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||01/16/2019|
[quote] Looking is still the standard for American gay series.
What??!! No one liked nor watched that shit. Queer As Folk is the standard, you dumb douche.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||01/16/2019|
[Quote]When did any Araki movie make sense, aside from Mysterious Skin?
Yes, and Mysterious Skin was an adaptation of a book. In Arakis own work he loves going for this super surreal vibe.
And I am not that poster r29, but "Looking" was a superior series to American QAF which a ton of obvious faults were overlooked because it was cutting edge at the same.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||01/17/2019|
Araki is hopeless at movie-making.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||01/17/2019|
He’s truly terrible. Not one ounce of cinematic ability in him.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||01/17/2019|
The Living End was the best summary of gay life in the early 90s. It will always be a touchstone for me. But he’s very much a queer cinema hangover. Not much since Mysterious Skin. But I love his punk gay sensibility.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||01/17/2019|
The trailer is incredibly awful. Like a pretentious crappy indie film from the 90's
|by Anonymous||reply 34||01/17/2019|
His time has passed.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||01/17/2019|
R29: Both are pretty bad, but Looking was boring and that's something unforgivable
|by Anonymous||reply 36||01/17/2019|
I think the trailer looks fun, campy and sexy. And I am happy to see Araki was given TV show.
You bitches love to complain, the more queer content the better
|by Anonymous||reply 37||01/17/2019|
I liked White Bird In A Blizzard.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||01/17/2019|
His amateurish stuff would be unwatchable if he had chosen ugly men to play in his amateurish stuff.
So many current YouTube Webcammers are preferable to this superannuated half-caste clueless hippy.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||01/17/2019|
[quote]I can't tell if that is supposed to be funny or if you don't know a damn thing about Gregg Araki [R21].
r22, correct me if I'm wrong, I had heard he was bi and had a wife/girlfriend.
Others have described his work (especially his earlier stuff) as amateurish. Would his early work have been noticed by critics if it didn't feature gay content prominently?
|by Anonymous||reply 40||01/17/2019|
Araki exploited a niche market just like Gus Van Sant did.
We blindly paid over our cash and accepted their amateurishness because it was all we had at that time. But those times are over!
|by Anonymous||reply 41||01/17/2019|
Araki would be described as homoflexible, or bi with a preference for men, or a fluid gay guy or however you want to describe it.
Point being he is far from being mainly into women r40, he has talked about it, but honestly just look at his work and it is pretty obvious.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||01/17/2019|
Araki on his sexuality
[quote]Do you identify as bisexual? I don’t really identify as anything, I guess. I have a male partner—we’ve been together for three years—but I don’t really identify. I’d probably identify as gay at this point, but I have been with women.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||01/17/2019|
The trailer makes it look a lot like Araki's film Kaboom which was a hot mess, but Tyler Posey playing gay is enough to get me to watch the first episode at least
|by Anonymous||reply 44||01/17/2019|
Yep r33, I also think The Living End was one of his strongest works, even though it was limited by a very tiny budget. It was better than his "teen apocalypse trilogy" that followed
|by Anonymous||reply 45||01/17/2019|
[quote]I have a male partner—we’ve been together for three years—but I don’t really identify.
He reeks of delusion, self-loathing and homophobia.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||01/17/2019|
R42: Maybe he has a preference for men in private, but he is the kind of bi who publicly date only (or mostly) women
|by Anonymous||reply 47||01/18/2019|
his films are amazing
|by Anonymous||reply 48||01/18/2019|
I loved Greg's earlier stuff, minus Kaboom. Smiley Face is my favorite. He has had other pilots fail that are just as salacious as this.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||01/18/2019|
He always has random aliens.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||01/18/2019|
Thanks for this Araki.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||01/18/2019|
[Quote]The show stars the outrageously beautiful Avan Jogia as Ulysses, a vape-hitting stoner temp who moons over his extremely attractive roommate Ford (Beau Mirchoff) when he isn’t hooking up with Tyler Posey (Yes, that guy from Teen Wolf) and having strange recurring dreams about lizard-headed alien creatures.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||01/18/2019|
With a last name like Arakis he MUST play Paul Atreides in any upcoming Dune film , and he should legally be required to change all his social media handles to @KwisatzHaderach.
That's all I got to say.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||01/18/2019|
Is Tyler Posey that annoying AF Youtube "star"? If so, he's trying to be an actor now?
He needs to go away.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||01/18/2019|
R54: Tyler Posey is Teen Wolf actor. I think you are thinking in Tyler Oakley (as far as i know he is not trying to be an actor which is understable because he makes a lot of money as youtuber)
|by Anonymous||reply 55||01/18/2019|
No R54 Tyler Posey is an actor who has been acting since he was a child and who recently starred in Teen Wolf and a played a bisexual character on Jane The Virgin.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||01/18/2019|
R54 as does the name "Tyler."
|by Anonymous||reply 57||01/18/2019|
It's really "Araki," not "Arakis," r53... the OP forgot the possessive's apostrophe.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||01/18/2019|
And the planet is Arrakis (at least in the novel i read)
|by Anonymous||reply 59||01/19/2019|
[quote]Araki would be described as homoflexible, or bi with a preference for men, or a fluid gay guy or however you want to describe it.
r42, sorry, but why are those who cry bi-erasure at the drop of a hat the same people who will twist all reality in order to avoid using the term? If a guy is sexually attracted to men and women then that man is bisexual, there's no need for a modifier. Also, there is no such thing as a 'fluid' gay man, the word you're looking for is bisexual.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||01/19/2019|
Well in his own words "I'd probably identify as gay now", but note that bisexual was literally one of the options in the post you quoted.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||01/20/2019|
All three of them were played by the catfishers r17
|by Anonymous||reply 62||01/20/2019|
Thanks, OP! I love Araki and I'm glad I saw the trailer b/c of your post. He uses the exact same score and even dialogue from his film Nowhere in the first 20 seconds and then some dialogue from The Living End mid way through. It's quintessential Araki - it could be interesting. His best work is when he keeps it semi-dark. I always like that his gay characters aren't so stereotypical.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||01/20/2019|
Gregg has only had one public relationship with a woman and that was 20 years ago. I'd call him gay with a phase.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||01/20/2019|
r64, is that what he says? I thought he was very outspoken about being bi.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||01/21/2019|
Personal life Araki has previously self-identified as "a gay Asian American". Contrary to the statement, beginning in 1997 he had a relationship with actress Kathleen Robertson, that ended in 1999. In a 2014 interview, Araki said that he "don’t really identify as anything", adding "[he] probably identify as gay at this point, but [he] have been with women".
|by Anonymous||reply 66||01/21/2019|
r66, how he identifies is meaningless. A man who is into both men and women is bisexual.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||01/23/2019|
[quote]He directed a few episodes of Netflix's "13 Reasons Why" and one episode of "American Crime - Season 2" with DL fav Connor Jessup. And other TV stuff.
And a few episodes of Riverdale, starring DL fave KJ Apa.
He and James Duval were a couple, right?
|by Anonymous||reply 68||01/23/2019|
The show looks crazy as fuck. Can't wait.
Avan Jogia, Tyler Posey, and Beau Mirchoff had their dick shots (and jerk off clips) leaked. Except in Avan's case there is no credible face and dick pic or clip.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||01/24/2019|
Too weird for me
|by Anonymous||reply 70||01/24/2019|
LOOKING is not the standard for anything. nor is QAF. both of those shows are unwatchable. at least QAF had sexy nudity. tyler posey looks washed. i used to have crushes on avan and beau but pretty much over it now. Asians have issues with being gay so that explains the Araki stuff. Mysterious Skin is his only good work. that's because he didn't write it.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||01/24/2019|
[quote]Mysterious Skin is his only good work. that's because he didn't write it.
it's excellent, who wrote it?
|by Anonymous||reply 72||01/24/2019|
Mysterious skin is a Scott Heim's novel
|by Anonymous||reply 73||01/24/2019|
I don’t like Greg Aracki’s works or even him as a person tbh. His films seem like they want to be deep but end up having nothing to say. A lot of them have awful aesthetics. And I found the more mainstream he went the more gay sexuality became a subtext and not shown like with heterosexuals and lesbians. Or if shown was mostly followed by something negative like death or something. It pretty much started around the time he started dating a woman which could be an explanation. I found it weird how he identified as gay but was bisexual. Like what was the point? I read an interview he did and he didn’t understand why gay people would have a problem with him identifying as gay but dating women. He basically called gay people close minded for having a limited view on sexuality and that we shouldn’t judge because we know it feels to not be accepted. Going by the trailer the show doesn’t look like something I’m going to enjoy but imma give it a chance anyway I might like it.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||01/24/2019|
R74: The trailer is a mess
|by Anonymous||reply 75||01/24/2019|
R75 yeah it looks like any awful show airing today that is trying to be woke but have only a slight idea on what being woke means.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||01/24/2019|
Anyone know where this will air?
Is it on Starz?
|by Anonymous||reply 77||01/27/2019|
Starts March 10.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||01/27/2019|
I need free Starz
|by Anonymous||reply 79||01/27/2019|
[quote]Looking is still the standard for American gay series.
[quote]What??!! No one liked nor watched that shit. Queer As Folk is the standard, you dumb douche.
I loved Looking. QAF was only good the first year, and when Brian was naked.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||01/27/2019|
Looking was fine, except the 14 year old virgin of a main character.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||01/27/2019|
I’ll watch it, but why Stars?
|by Anonymous||reply 82||01/27/2019|
[Quote]Like a lot of veteran filmmakers pivoting to TV, Greg Araki has trouble turning all of the wild pansexual science fiction ideas for his new Starz series NOW APOCALYPSE into episodes. But I enjoyed every colorful minute I’ve seen so far of this horny, horny comedy. #Sundance19
|by Anonymous||reply 83||01/30/2019|
[Quote]Gregg Araki’s ‘Now Apocalypse’ makes ‘Nymphomaniac’ seem like ‘Mary Poppins Returns.’ #Sundance2019
|by Anonymous||reply 84||01/30/2019|
[Quote]Happy to have broken my “No TV at Sundance” rule for Gregg Araki’s NOW APOCALYPSE, which features a butt-fucking lizard monster from outer space and made me laugh harder than I have in weeks.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||01/30/2019|
Apparently, people are saying this may be an adaptation of Nowhere. Which I remember liking, but I haven't seen it in probably twenty years since it was never released on DVD in US.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||01/30/2019|
It looks like a crazy mind fuck without drugs. I can only imagine how it looks while being high on drugs.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||01/30/2019|
Yeah I don't remember Nowhere that well, but there were aliens so makes sense people are comparing this to that r86.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||01/30/2019|
Was that the movie that ends with one of the guys turning into a giant roach?
|by Anonymous||reply 89||01/30/2019|
|by Anonymous||reply 90||01/30/2019|
Yeah, Nathan Bexton's (WHET) character did after he and James Duval's character finally got together.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||01/30/2019|
Apparently, the entire movie is on YouTube. Maybe I'll watch it when I get a chance.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||01/30/2019|
[quote]Queer As Folk is the standard, you dumb douche.
LOL QAF is not a standard for gay series fangurl. Only in your diminutive imagination is QAF the standard for gay storytelling in a gay series.
Looking and Eyewitness are still the benchmark for gay storytelling in a gay American series.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||01/30/2019|
Well, I love Gregg Araki, and I can't wait for this. Nowhere is one of my favorites. I found a really decent quality bootleg DVD on eBay last year for less than 20 bucks. I'm sure that seller is still cranking them out if anyone is interested.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||01/30/2019|
R93 Looking had a 30 year old protagonist who was a 14 year old virgin at heart. Even prudes know what rimming and foreskin are.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||01/30/2019|
I don't think i've ever seen Avan's hair this short before.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||02/06/2019|
|by Anonymous||reply 97||02/06/2019|
Looking is a mature show made for mature people. It's no surprise gays with a Peter Pan syndrome couldn't sit through a show dealing with nuance and relationships. QAF USA is embarrassing to the highest degree.
Banana and Cucumber are two very funny modern day gays shows. I've just found out yesterday they'll revive the L word.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||02/06/2019|
What I love about Looking is that it had tridimensional characters. Patrick was annoying and someone I'd punch in the face, but he was so castrated by his mom he couldn't deal with anything. I loved this show. Too bad it was too adult for manchildren who can't hold a relationship with anyone who isn't "hot".
|by Anonymous||reply 99||02/06/2019|
R96 He looks better with long hair. I'm surprised because I usually like short hair on hot men.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||02/06/2019|
[quote]Looking and Eyewitness are still the benchmark for gay storytelling in a gay American series.
Isn't Eyewitness from Norway?
|by Anonymous||reply 101||02/06/2019|
R74 god he sounds like an insufferable twat. He is like that borderline pedo “I’m gay, but married to a woman who I fuck” Stephen daldry. Men like him are trash
|by Anonymous||reply 102||02/06/2019|
R98 Mature? I love the supporting characters, but the 30 year old protagonist clutched his pearls at the mention of foreskin and rimming. He was a child.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||02/06/2019|
Almost feels like fate
|by Anonymous||reply 104||02/16/2019|
|by Anonymous||reply 105||02/16/2019|
|by Anonymous||reply 106||02/16/2019|
Avan Jogia & Beau Mirchoff
|by Anonymous||reply 107||02/26/2019|
r107 Oof, that is a hot fucking kiss. Arakis must have had a special kissing choreographer on the set.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||02/26/2019|
I'll give them credit for the kiss. I'm seeing full tongue there. Most actors playing gay try to cheat it so they don't have to do that. I've also had a thing for Beau since Desperate Housewives and always hoped the Andrew character would seduce him at some point, so this is right up my alley.
I honestly think that the good thing about all these younger actors is that they really don't care as much about this kind of stuff. I think they're more open to doing nudity and sexual stuff on screen, which is great. I'm so sick of this country being so puritanical about our bodies and sex.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||02/26/2019|
The kiss is part of a fantasy sequence, Jogias character has an unrequited lust for Beau Mirchoff.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||02/26/2019|
R107 That kiss gives me high hopes for any Tyler Posey/Avan Jogia sex scenes
|by Anonymous||reply 111||02/26/2019|
r109 I have to say I don't see any tongue, but I like it because it's just so sensual. And is it just me or do Jogia's eyes roll up at the very end of the gif?
|by Anonymous||reply 112||02/26/2019|
Goodness that kiss shows promise.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||02/26/2019|
Araki does this in all his movies. It has to be a personal trauma.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||02/26/2019|
I'd say a gay guy having some hopeless crush on a straight guy is a pretty universal experience for us r114.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||02/26/2019|
Gregg Araki cannot write a screenplay to save his life. The only good film he ever made was "Mysterious Skin" because it had an actual plot.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||02/26/2019|
R102 He’s a pedo? I don’t understand why it’s so hard to say bi. Treating being bi as some weird complex unexplainable thing doesn’t do it any favors. People like him and Aracki contribute to biphobia and erasure.
|by Anonymous||reply 117||02/26/2019|
[quote]Arakis must have had a special kissing choreographer on the set.
You obviously had no idea who Avan Jogia is.
|by Anonymous||reply 118||02/26/2019|
R117 Stephen is a notorious chicken hawk. Indeed one of the reasons he quickly got married to his fag hag (who he fucks, as he reminds us all) is other than a green card to work in the US, is because there were rumours surrounding his relationship with Jamie bell during billy elliot..... also the perfect aryan twink he cast as young prince Phillip in The Crown....
|by Anonymous||reply 119||02/26/2019|
|by Anonymous||reply 120||02/26/2019|
[Quote] That kiss gives me high hopes for any Tyler Posey/Avan Jogia sex scenes
|by Anonymous||reply 121||02/27/2019|
Beau Mirchoff serving some bulge on the red carpet
|by Anonymous||reply 122||02/28/2019|
Not to be outdone, Avan Jogia serving some bulge on the red carpet (I also l
|by Anonymous||reply 123||02/28/2019|
Lol what are Avan and Posey wearing?
|by Anonymous||reply 124||02/28/2019|
They are just such woke queer icons. Omg. So stunning and brave uwu!!!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 125||02/28/2019|
Avan and Beau. Look how different they look here. It looks like Avan has his hair braided and tied up or in dreads. He looks Puerto Rican in this picture.
|by Anonymous||reply 126||02/28/2019|
|by Anonymous||reply 127||02/28/2019|
Isn't Araki the best thing that never happened?
|by Anonymous||reply 128||02/28/2019|
Tyler Posey had never kissed a guy before, really bitch?
|by Anonymous||reply 129||03/02/2019|
If you want to deep dive into the build interview on the show.
|by Anonymous||reply 130||03/02/2019|
[Quote] Tyler Posey had never kissed a guy before, really bitch?
|by Anonymous||reply 131||03/03/2019|
Heh, thanks r131. That's what I was thinking, I'm pretty sure I've seen Tyler Posey kiss a guy before.
|by Anonymous||reply 132||03/03/2019|
Avan is hot
|by Anonymous||reply 133||03/03/2019|
[quote]Tyler Posey had never kissed a guy before, really bitch?
This is going to come back to haunt him. He Was fucking his Tenn Wolf stunt double, I am pretty sure he has done more than kiss a boy.
|by Anonymous||reply 134||03/03/2019|
[Quote] He Was fucking his Tenn Wolf stunt double
|by Anonymous||reply 135||03/03/2019|
The origin of that is a blind item r136.
|by Anonymous||reply 136||03/04/2019|
R136 Aren't they always??
|by Anonymous||reply 137||03/04/2019|
Gregg Araki....now THAT'S a name I haven't heard since before the internet.
|by Anonymous||reply 138||03/04/2019|
R134, stop lying dude
|by Anonymous||reply 139||03/04/2019|
Saw the first 3 episodes yesterday. Classic Araki, well cast. Plenty of eye candy, but more tits than butts. The boys do spend a lot of time in briefs though.
|by Anonymous||reply 140||03/04/2019|
R138 I wish that had stayed so.
But I think he will have some success now; queer/ fluid male sexuality is very du jour in 2019. He was a bit too alternative in his presentation of queer men to both straight and gay audiences in the 1990’s. Now teen girls love bi guys in their content and gays will take whatever scraps they can get. Hets are getting used to it too.
So even though this series is not in the least bit new for Gregg - indeed laughably so - I think it is the perfect timing for it in 2019.
I for one find him a one trick pony and for all his pretense of being a ‘queer cinema artiste 👩🎨 ‘, a bit of a hack.
|by Anonymous||reply 141||03/04/2019|
I'm looking forward to it but the reviews haven't been all that great, have they?
|by Anonymous||reply 142||03/04/2019|
I would be surprised if this got really great reviews, Arakis work has never had universal appeal*, it is an acquired taste.
*As said before, Mysterious Skin was an adaptation, not his brainchild.
|by Anonymous||reply 143||03/04/2019|
Does Beau at least show his hot little ass?
|by Anonymous||reply 144||03/04/2019|
I see. Well, now I'm even more excited to see which camp I'll fall into.
|by Anonymous||reply 145||03/04/2019|
Of the first 3 episodes, R144 one butt shot. But his body is on constant display.
|by Anonymous||reply 146||03/04/2019|
I really wish I hadn't seen Beau's jerkoff vids. I mean, he was great and all, but the insane attraction I used to feel towards him is well and truly gone because the mystery isn't there anymore. Jogia and Posey don't do much for me as they come across as thirsties in real life.
|by Anonymous||reply 147||03/04/2019|
[Quote] Jogia and Posey don't do much for me as they come across as thirsties in real life.
You just described more than half of the actors in Hollywood.
|by Anonymous||reply 148||03/04/2019|
[quote]I really wish I hadn't seen Beau's jerkoff vids
Why? Is it small???
|by Anonymous||reply 149||03/04/2019|
It's certainly not big r149. But that posters point was about the "mystery being gone". That same phenomenon about how someone can be really into a person until they finally get to sleep with them, and boom after that the pull is gone. I'm sure psychologist have a name for that.
|by Anonymous||reply 150||03/04/2019|
" I'm sure psychologist have a name for that."
I may be wrong, but I believe it is "cognitive dissonance."
|by Anonymous||reply 151||03/04/2019|
I've seen his vids, watched the episodes, saw him at the Q&A yesterday, and I'd still fuck him.
And whoever told Avan to cut his hair should be punched in the face.
|by Anonymous||reply 152||03/04/2019|
R152 ew. Gregg looks like a lesbian in that picture.... is he transitioning into a transbian? That’s got to be he new cool thing for these professional queers.
|by Anonymous||reply 153||03/04/2019|
Or R153...he's just a dude...wearing a blouse. Not everything is trans, you psychos.
|by Anonymous||reply 154||03/05/2019|
"Not to diss Looking, but it was always too real for me. I’m more interested in a heightened world. The people are prettier, the lighting is better, the colors are brighter. Everything is notched up.”
|by Anonymous||reply 155||03/09/2019|
[quote]Avan Jogia and Tyler Posey as boyfriends
Can I be in the middle?
|by Anonymous||reply 156||03/09/2019|
I'm really looking forward to this. STARZ has a free preview this weekend. If the show is any good I'll buy the channels.
|by Anonymous||reply 157||03/09/2019|
R157 let us know what you think??
|by Anonymous||reply 158||03/09/2019|
Tyler has already gone over to a mainstream series. I’m not expecting much.
|by Anonymous||reply 159||03/09/2019|
R159 I don't think they've announced The Lost Boys getting picked up.
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[quote]With a last name like Arakis he MUST play Paul Atreides in any upcoming Dune film , and he should legally be required to change all his social media handles to @KwisatzHaderach.
His name is actually Gregg ARAKI.
OP made a typo, it should have read: "Gregg Araki's "Now Apocalypse".
|by Anonymous||reply 161||03/09/2019|
I can see this show being as polarizing as all of of Araki's New Queer Cinema stuff. But I ended up really liking it. And not just because of all the gay stuff. I definitely see the elements of Nowhere, as Uly has a pretty strong resemblance to Duval's Dark.
Speaking of which, Duval has a short cameo, and if we see him again, I bet he is playing the same character.
And Avon Jorgia and Tyler Posey have excellent chemistry.
|by Anonymous||reply 162||03/10/2019|
[quote]Tyler has already gone over to a mainstream series. I’m not expecting much.
He's only listed as a guest star - at least in the first episode. But the way Netflix shots things he could do both shows if The Lost Boys gets picked up.
|by Anonymous||reply 163||03/10/2019|
What does Netflix have to do with anything? The Lost Boys is going to be on the CW.
|by Anonymous||reply 164||03/10/2019|
Also, Beau Mirchoff is built like a brick shithouse now, and there's a hot scene where Uly imagines kissing him.
|by Anonymous||reply 165||03/10/2019|
[quote]What does Netflix have to do with anything? The Lost Boys is going to be on the CW.
|by Anonymous||reply 166||03/10/2019|
I just started my 7 day free trial of Starz on Amazon Prime, though I doubt you have have to go through Bezos to do the free trial. Let's see what I think.
|by Anonymous||reply 167||03/10/2019|
I presume if any of the eye candy in the show actually has actual sex with another actual gay man they will instantly be killed or castrated, as always seems to happen to any gay man who has gay sex in any self loathing film self loather Greggy fuck face makes....
|by Anonymous||reply 168||03/10/2019|
Well, damn, I didn't enjoy the first episode at all. The acting is more than fine but it all just comes across as empty and cheaply made. I can't even comment on the tone or the theme of it because I couldn't discern either. I'll give it one more try because the cam girl intrigues me, but I probably won't finish the season.
|by Anonymous||reply 169||03/10/2019|
[quote]I presume if any of the eye candy in the show actually has actual sex with another actual gay man they will instantly be killed or castrated, as always seems to happen to any gay man who has gay sex in any self loathing film self loather Greggy fuck face makes....
The first scene has Uly fucking a guy and having to sneak out the window when the dude's husband comes home.
|by Anonymous||reply 170||03/10/2019|
"Do you identify as bisexual? I don’t really identify as anything, I guess. I have a male partner—we’ve been together for three years—but I don’t really identify. I’d probably identify as gay at this point, but I have been with women."
Another gay Millennial terrified of the word 'gay'.
|by Anonymous||reply 171||03/10/2019|
Did you just refer to Gregg Araki as a millennial?
|by Anonymous||reply 172||03/10/2019|
It's about what I expected. Kinda silly but enjoyable as long as you are willing to just go with it. It's good that it is just 30 minutes, this wouldn't work as an hour long affair. I'm happy to be along for the ride.
Outside of being the the nice eye candy for the gay viewers, I was surprised how charming I found Beau Mirchoff.
[Quote]And Avon Jorgia and Tyler Posey have excellent chemistry.
See, this actually disappointed me. I didn't think they had great chemistry. I though Beau and Avan had better chemistry in that fantasy sequence.
|by Anonymous||reply 173||03/10/2019|
Araki ain't no millennial - although he does seem to suffer from some kind of arrested development and seems to still be chasing those ghosts of the mid-90s "queer" boy. He even "fluid" before it was cool and suffered the wrath of the gays in 1998 when he brought his new girlfriend to the opening of the last installment of his "queer" trilogy. Talk about awkward but not surprising to anyone who was paying any attention to the first two films - the male stars were all bisexual or straight and gay was not cool at all. The New York Post could barely restrain itself in mocking him and his next few films were horrible - they were all straight washed just like his pathetic attempt to date that actress. He finally redeemed himself when he lucked out and optioned the script for Mysterious Skin - gay was now OK and so was Greg again.
|by Anonymous||reply 174||03/10/2019|
If it sucks I hope at least it has good gay sex and male nudity.
|by Anonymous||reply 175||03/10/2019|
The first episode opens with some buttfucking, and Mirchoff's ripped bod is on constant display r175.
|by Anonymous||reply 176||03/10/2019|
The only good movie he ever made was Mysterious Skin and it was the one he didn't write - the script was adapted from a book so no weird aliens or other goofy magical realism...
|by Anonymous||reply 177||03/10/2019|
It was OK - same thing Araki always does...You would think he would have grown some over the last 25 years but no...As long as you don't take it seriously it can be entertaining...
|by Anonymous||reply 178||03/10/2019|
So far it's better than "Kaboom".
|by Anonymous||reply 179||03/10/2019|
First time Chris Z showed his cock in Kaboom so it wasn’t a total waste of time.
|by Anonymous||reply 180||03/10/2019|
So Araki didn't hire a single gay actor in this project right?
As the kids say, that seems problematic.
|by Anonymous||reply 181||03/10/2019|
Doom Generation is a great Gen X movie.
|by Anonymous||reply 182||03/10/2019|
The dialog is rather dated.
All the straight couples were the worst part of the show, and they were like 60% of the whole episode. Evan had great chemistry Posey and Mirchoff, and it's so sad that this show feels like such a wasted opportunity. A love triangle between Evan, Posey, and Mirchoff would have been incredible because there is real chemistry there.
|by Anonymous||reply 183||03/10/2019|
Very disappointed in it. Not sure what it's supposed to be about. I really had high hopes for this. Avan is adorable though.
|by Anonymous||reply 184||03/10/2019|
Tyler Posey is surprisingly hot and a better actor than half the people in this so... that's surprising.
|by Anonymous||reply 185||03/10/2019|
Evan was indeed adorable. Clearly the best actor of the bunch. It's too bad the episode lost all the momentum of the opening scene once the focused shifted to the straight couples.
Did anyone noticed that Evan had trouble topping his more physically robust scene partner? Eva has the body of a twink and should have been the one bottoming to the clearly taller and stronger actor he was supposedly fucking.
I thought Posey and Evan has mad chemistry in the alley scene. They kiss so well.
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Avan people, seeing "Evan" keeps confusing me.
|by Anonymous||reply 188||03/10/2019|
They tucked the bottom's penis in the opening scene so it wouldn't show on screen. That, or they were going for the FTM representation. Probably the latter, let's be real. And I can almost hear Bryan Fuller screaming at his TV: "That cock is NOT going into that hole! Angles, people, angles!"
I too was surprised at how competent Avan's acting was. Where the hell did he get them chops?
|by Anonymous||reply 189||03/10/2019|
[quote]Tyler Posey is surprisingly hot and a better actor than half the people in this so... that's surprising.
As terrible as he was when Teen Wolf started, he appeared to work with his acting coach really hard, and improved by leaps and bounds by the end of that show. I think he did pretty well playing bi on Jane the Virgin as well.
|by Anonymous||reply 190||03/10/2019|
Yes, Tyler Posey has openly talked about how bad he was at acting Season 1 at Teen Wolf. I still don't think he is great, but he has definitely gotten a lot better.
Reminds me of David Boreanaz, who was also a terrible actor Season 1 of Buffy but worked at it and got better.
|by Anonymous||reply 191||03/10/2019|
That era of casting heartthrobs who can't act from the get-go seems to be over, because there's so much backlash and derision on social media, you just don't want that associated with your show.
|by Anonymous||reply 192||03/10/2019|
So is it supposed to be on purpose than Jogia and Posey are "boyfriends thing"? I just can't imagine it is a coincidence they got someone that favors Avan, they are even rocking the same haircut.
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I feel young again. It's 1991!
|by Anonymous||reply 195||03/10/2019|
r193 They might be exploring the twinning phenomenon, what with the cosmic explosion when they both came.
There's so much hair stuff going on in this one shot. For someone who's really into hair, I too would cum in a cosmic manner if these two were both working my cock at the same time.
|by Anonymous||reply 196||03/10/2019|
Boys keep swinging! Avan's cock in action.
btw, he's dating a woman, some C-List actress and she ain't too pretty.
|by Anonymous||reply 197||03/10/2019|
The American Gods and the Now Apocalypse cast tweeting during the premiere.
|by Anonymous||reply 198||03/10/2019|
When did Beau Mirchoff get so brawny?
|by Anonymous||reply 199||03/10/2019|
For this role r199.
|by Anonymous||reply 200||03/10/2019|
Avan's got endless photos of his odd looking GF all over his IG. He tries way too hard. I've always assume he was gay or bi.
He's way too good looking be with such a meh woman. What's with these hot men and plain partners?
His GF was on Jay Pharoah's short-lived Showtime series WHITE FAMOUS, she wasn't much of an actress. She's biracial.
|by Anonymous||reply 201||03/10/2019|
Really? I had seem pictures of him in something else where he looked pretty bloated, but he's currently in competition with DL Icon Cody Christian in terms of being jacked.
|by Anonymous||reply 202||03/10/2019|
I remember Avan being with Zoey Deutch for a long time. I even thought they were engaged at one point.
|by Anonymous||reply 203||03/10/2019|
[quote]I remember Avan being with Zoey Deutch for a long time. I even thought they were engaged at one point.
They are long over. His new GF looks like a blowfish. Her name is Cleopatra Coleman. She's Australian.
Avan is really hot, but he comes across like a hipster asshole. He's got photos of Nina Hagen and Lena Lovich at his IG, does he even know who they are?
|by Anonymous||reply 204||03/10/2019|
His 'tribute' to Magritte. What a pretentious poser.
|by Anonymous||reply 205||03/10/2019|
Rather enjoyed the first episode, felt very 90’s in a way, odd and funny. I always loved “The Living End”, so I’m used to Araki’s style. The lead is very cute, and Beau Mirchoff is gorgeous, so it’s worth it for that alone. More gay action than I had expected, a nice surprise.
|by Anonymous||reply 206||03/10/2019|
So what I'm getting is the show isn't great but it isn't terrible either.
|by Anonymous||reply 207||03/10/2019|
R207 No, the show is total shite, BUT it stars actors the thirsty sluts here want to rim
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Whoever told Avan to cut his hair should be shot. Those locks were lovely
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|by Anonymous||reply 211||03/11/2019|
Guess i'm the only one who doesn't mind Avan's new do.
|by Anonymous||reply 212||03/11/2019|
I'm going to give it a few more episodes before passing judgment.
|by Anonymous||reply 213||03/11/2019|
They should have released the first two episodes on the same night, as there just wasn't much meat on that first one to leave a proper impression.
|by Anonymous||reply 214||03/11/2019|
Two guys kiss and the universe implodes, and then one of them discovers that alien lizard people are fucking homeless guys... that seems like a lot to me!
|by Anonymous||reply 215||03/11/2019|
[Quote] and then one of them discovers that alien lizard people are fucking homeless guys
|by Anonymous||reply 216||03/11/2019|
r215 You'd think that judging by that description, wouldn't you? But the characterisation - whatever little we got of it - felt so hollow and dated. That's what I was referring to by "not having much meat on it". And even the actual meat we should have seen was safely tucked away, as demonstrated in r189.
This show feels like something I'd go completely nuts over before Peak TV happened.
|by Anonymous||reply 217||03/11/2019|
To me the first episode did what it was supposed to. We got introduced to our main characters, the vibe of the show was established, and it ended with the alien tease.
I mean it is basically the lives of a bunch of oversexed 20-somethings trying to make it in LA, thrown in with a bit of the Araki style surrealism with aliens.
|by Anonymous||reply 218||03/11/2019|
The first episode can do what it's supposed to (talk about a low bar), or it can do more. I was just expecting to see him push himself creatively, that's all. Like someone upthread said, he's got his established schtick and you either like it or you don't. Guess it's just not my thing after all. I love fantastical elements in general, but they're not done that well here; they come across as comical and cheap, while I prefer the subtler, unnerving ones.
I'd be more prepared to cheer this show on if it had an openly gay actor in the cast. Right now, I'm being asked to lust over straight guys and yet again applaud them for their courage because they kissed another man. I'll sure be glad when that stops being a thing.
|by Anonymous||reply 219||03/11/2019|
[Quote] Right now, I'm being asked to lust over straight guys and yet again applaud them for their courage because they kissed another man. I'll sure be glad when that stops being a thing.
I think we've got a long way to go in that department.
|by Anonymous||reply 220||03/11/2019|
R219, I’m cool with it
|by Anonymous||reply 221||03/11/2019|
Sure, there was eye candy but plot-wise, the first episode was underwhelming and disappointing.
|by Anonymous||reply 222||03/11/2019|
I don't disagree r219, you'd think Araki would care about using his platform to hire some gay actors.
|by Anonymous||reply 223||03/11/2019|
They’re literally catering to millennials. Young people and gays... it’s like they’re giving us what we want.
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|by Anonymous||reply 226||03/11/2019|
R223 Why? He has clearly demonstrated for decades he is a self loathing homo, fuck he can hardly bring himself to even say the word
|by Anonymous||reply 227||03/11/2019|
I'm fine with straight actors playing gay but would it have killed him to hire one openly gay actor?
|by Anonymous||reply 228||03/11/2019|
I love that asking for a quick handjob on your first date doesn't ruin a magical moment.
|by Anonymous||reply 229||03/11/2019|
... but asking for rimjob does.
|by Anonymous||reply 230||03/11/2019|
Sorry, asking for A rimjob does.
|by Anonymous||reply 231||03/11/2019|
I get a bit of a Mullholland Drive (David Lynch) vibe from the straight roommate's plot.
|by Anonymous||reply 232||03/11/2019|
[quote]e's got his established schtick and you either like it or you don't. Guess it's just not my thing after all. I love fantastical elements in general, but they're not done that well here; they come across as comical and cheap, while I prefer the subtler, unnerving ones.
"Comical and cheap" is the Araki Brand, so yeah, I'd say he's just not your thing then. I usually prefer the latter too but Araki as far as I'm concerned gets to do whatever he wants to at this point. The whole black-light poster come to life thing is the point. I don't smoke weed but this show makes me feel like I did.
|by Anonymous||reply 233||03/11/2019|
I love Araki's movies. They are camp student films. Low budget feel, but colorful, fun and trippy.
|by Anonymous||reply 234||03/11/2019|
[quote]His GF was on Jay Pharoah's short-lived Showtime series WHITE FAMOUS, she wasn't much of an actress. [bold]She's biracial.[/bold]
|by Anonymous||reply 235||03/11/2019|
r227 No one wants to hear that - Araki plays the victim well (he turned the understandable shock and dismay to his arrival at Sundance with his new girlfriend in 98 into a "gays are intolerant of the wonders of pussy" meme and his work has always privileged heterosexuality over homosexuality) and has managed to cultivate a following among straight hipsters on the film festival circuit, who always sing his praises. Most gay people have never heard of him or can't stand him....
|by Anonymous||reply 236||03/11/2019|
Huh? She's biracial, not black not white. Biracial people have to realize they aren't just once race. That's my point. Got that? Wow, so many fucking snowflakes these days. That's how that douchebag moronic POS Trump became president.
Too many biracial people call themselves one or the other, it's usually dependent how they look. I'm biracial. I never say I'm black because I know I'm not 100% black. Most people assume I'm South Asian (Pakistani or Indian) or Hispanic.
There was also a rumour that Avan's biracial GF was actually trans. She has manly hands and huge manly feet. Whatever she is, she surely isn't very attractive. Her parents look like hillbillies.
|by Anonymous||reply 237||03/11/2019|
Wonder why he broke up with Zoe??
|by Anonymous||reply 238||03/11/2019|
R238 Do you think, maybe, it was because he is a fucking homo?
|by Anonymous||reply 239||03/11/2019|
You got issues r239.
|by Anonymous||reply 240||03/11/2019|
R240 I think you mean self loathing closeted gay man has the issues
|by Anonymous||reply 241||03/11/2019|
There is no world in which American version of Queer as Folk is the standard of anything R29 you fucking moron.
|by Anonymous||reply 242||03/11/2019|
[quote]There is no world in which American version of Queer as Folk is the standard of anything [R29] you fucking moron.
I agree, Neither is this show a standard about gay, straight and bi young people. Jeez, you do have to what is wrong with people these days? No one thinks any more.
This is Araki's personal vision of a very specific group of LA stoners and hipsters who are trying to break into showbiz. I have no idea what Avan's character wants to be, so far he's into hooking up, getting stoned, riding his bike and hallucinating. His roommate wants to write scripts and the blond chick is a sex cam 'actress'.
I was half paying attention, if it was revealed what Avan's character's career goal was, I missed it.
|by Anonymous||reply 243||03/11/2019|
WONDER what is wrong....
|by Anonymous||reply 244||03/11/2019|
Avan is not 100% South Asian.
Avan was born in Canada. His father is a British Indian, and his mother is of English and German descent. His older brother Ketan, is a music producer in London. He left school at 17. Avan speaks Gujarati and French.
|by Anonymous||reply 245||03/11/2019|
Different people have different standards, and of course DLers use that as an excuse for a dick measuring contest. Or at least pretending to be able to measure their micro penises. Like, really. Instead of appreciating the show it's about comparisons and "my taste is better then your taste, you fucking loser!".
|by Anonymous||reply 246||03/12/2019|
Sorry, "my taste is better THAN your taste, you fucking loser!".
|by Anonymous||reply 247||03/12/2019|
What is a British Indian? An Indian born in Britain? Being born in Britain doesn’t change he’s Indian.
|by Anonymous||reply 248||03/12/2019|
Avan is my next husband.
|by Anonymous||reply 249||03/12/2019|
[quote]Sure, there was eye candy but plot-wise, the first episode was underwhelming and disappointing.
You just nut-shelled Araki’s career.
[quote]What is a British Indian? An Indian born in Britain?
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|by Anonymous||reply 256||03/12/2019|
It’s a mess, like all Araki projects.
|by Anonymous||reply 257||03/12/2019|
Beau is stunning--great face and body
|by Anonymous||reply 258||03/12/2019|
I don't know if it's some foreshadowing thing, but Avan doesn't look at Tyler for a few lines after giving each other a handjob. It's almost looks like Avan is reading his lines from cue cards.
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|by Anonymous||reply 260||03/12/2019|
I made it through maybe the first 10 minutes of this hipster twaddle. Pass.
|by Anonymous||reply 261||03/12/2019|
Beau is GORGEOUS. Not only a handsome face but BEAUTIFUL body.
|by Anonymous||reply 262||03/12/2019|
Song from the Kaboom trailer at @ r179 if anyone is interested. Gregg Araki films usually have pretty good music.
|by Anonymous||reply 263||03/12/2019|
Which also makes it sexier is how much fun Beau seems be having playing the eye candy.
|by Anonymous||reply 264||03/12/2019|
I love this clip...
|by Anonymous||reply 265||03/12/2019|
[quote]What is a British Indian? An Indian born in Britain? Being born in Britain doesn’t change he’s Indian.
Are you fucking serious? It's the same as Italian-American, German-American etc, don't be a fucking douche.
Avan's grandparents on his father's side were born in India, his father was born in England. Which make this dad a British-Indian, like Riz Ahmed is a British-Pakistani, Riz was born in London.
Model Giselle Bunchen was born in Brazil, but her parents are of German descent, which makes her a Brazilian-German.
Avan and his mom.
|by Anonymous||reply 266||03/12/2019|
With his father.
|by Anonymous||reply 267||03/12/2019|
I like the show.
Typical Araki stuff, with the realities and foibles of Millennial tech to update it.
Nice to see Gregg Araki still Gregg Araki'ing.
|by Anonymous||reply 268||03/12/2019|
R261 that's what gifs were made for.
|by Anonymous||reply 269||03/13/2019|
Beau is definitely loving his role as the shows eye candy.
|by Anonymous||reply 270||03/13/2019|
So did Araki throw in Rachel True again to avoid his lack of diversity standard?
|by Anonymous||reply 271||03/13/2019|
Tyler Posey isn’t white.
|by Anonymous||reply 272||03/13/2019|
[quote]So did Araki throw in Rachel True again to avoid his lack of diversity standard?
What are you going on about when the lead character isn't white? Avan Jogia is very visibly a "person a color"
|by Anonymous||reply 273||03/13/2019|
Beau's jerk off with cumshot compilation vids for the win.
|by Anonymous||reply 274||03/13/2019|
I just can’t with Posey’s uneven jawline.
|by Anonymous||reply 275||03/13/2019|
Expected responses R272 and R273.
|by Anonymous||reply 276||03/13/2019|
Nothing “Durr “ about that. People love to label anyone white these days.
|by Anonymous||reply 277||03/13/2019|
[Quote] Tyler Posey isn’t white.
I find it a little funny that some people can't tell. And his character in Teen Wolf wasn't white either, but that shit's also caused countless arguments lol
|by Anonymous||reply 278||03/13/2019|
R278 people are dumb. Someone that works at my job has VERY TANNED skin and while his hair isn’t “black” hair, it’s not white hair either. It’s corse but straight.
He also has a wide nose etc. mixed looking.
But to many, he’s “white”
|by Anonymous||reply 279||03/13/2019|
I believe Tyler's mother was Hispanic.
|by Anonymous||reply 280||03/13/2019|
Yes, Tyler Posey had a mexican mom and a white father.
Teen Wolf tried to portray the same thing, his mother's character being Melissa Delgado and his father being white.
|by Anonymous||reply 281||03/13/2019|
R281 apparently that wasn't good enough for some Teen Wolf fans. Scott should've been speaking Spanish and eating burritos every night lol
|by Anonymous||reply 282||03/14/2019|
Tyler: “Me and Avan have some pretty intense hookup scenes,” he shared. “More intense than anything I’ve ever done straight on camera, and it was a breeze.”
“It was so much fun on set. I had the greatest time. The director, Greg [Araki], made it so easy and comfortable on set. It was just great, I had the greatest time filming it.”
“We’re going to make the splash page of Pornhub, I’m sure,” Jogia told TVLine. “Some of those scenes are going to be up there, I can feel it.”
|by Anonymous||reply 283||03/16/2019|
[Quote] We’re going to make the splash page of Pornhub, I’m sure,” Jogia told TVLine. “Some of those scenes are going to be up there, I can feel it."
Clearly living the dream lol
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[quote] Tyler: “Me and Avan have some pretty intense hookup scenes,” he shared. “More intense than anything I’ve ever done straight on camera, and it was a breeze.”
[quote] “We’re going to make the splash page of Pornhub, I’m sure,” Jogia told TVLine. “Some of those scenes are going to be up there, I can feel it.”
Reminds me of Ian McShane's comments of American Gods featuring very explicit gay sex (which turned out to be an overly produced CGI scene). Both Now Acopalypse and American Gods are on Starz.
Never ever oversell. It will only drive expectations high and end up disappointing the viewers.
|by Anonymous||reply 285||03/16/2019|
[quote]Reminds me of Ian McShane's comments of American Gods featuring very explicit gay sex (which turned out to be an overly produced CGI scene).
No it wasn't.
|by Anonymous||reply 286||03/16/2019|
r286 are you claiming there wasn't CGI involved?
|by Anonymous||reply 287||03/16/2019|
There was CGI in the background, but the actors themselves weren't CGI.
|by Anonymous||reply 288||03/16/2019|
r288, not true.
[quote] They were thrown transformed to another realm by CGI where they continued having sex
[quote] Once in the CGI realm, the pair became grey silhouettes of themselves but the fire in Kraish's character's eyes remained
|by Anonymous||reply 289||03/16/2019|
None of my tricks catch on fire like that.
|by Anonymous||reply 290||03/16/2019|
[Quote] Never ever oversell. It will only drive expectations high and end up disappointing the viewers.
|by Anonymous||reply 291||03/16/2019|
It’s not very good. The characters are terrible. The boys are very cute but there are so many problems that I wouldn’t even know where to start.. James Duval is straight btw. I will keep watching as, well I always watch shows with gay characters mostly. Although I stopped watching g teen wolf as became terrible. My favourite recent gay shows were pose and a very British scandal. I need more!
|by Anonymous||reply 292||03/16/2019|
[quote]James Duval is straight btw
Is his orientation Straight + Araki? Because I can't believe they weren't fucking.
|by Anonymous||reply 293||03/16/2019|
[Quote] Although I stopped watching g teen wolf as became terrible.
Lol became?? Just stick to the shirtless scenes and it's all good. Otherwise you'll get a headache trying to keep up with the "mythology" of the show.
|by Anonymous||reply 294||03/16/2019|
R294, teh whole "Became terrible" thing was the moment they stopped featuring shirtless scenes every episode, no longer had locker-room scenes, … you know, eliminated the primary reason for watching it, because someone want it to be taken "seriously" or something.
|by Anonymous||reply 295||03/16/2019|
The show just lost its sense of fun. The first couple seasons were a fun guilty pleasure, but yes it started taking itself way too seriously.
|by Anonymous||reply 296||03/16/2019|
Avan's short hair is terrible and the multi-colors make it even more of a travesty.
|by Anonymous||reply 297||03/16/2019|
R295 i don't think it helped that one of the actors talked about the shirtless scenes being pointless/ridiculous. I mean, he's not wrong lol. But fandom used it as another excuse to shit on the show, the actresses and JD.
R296 agreed. I know it's not a popular opinion but it went downhill after season 2/moved to LA.
|by Anonymous||reply 298||03/16/2019|
R298, I enjoyed the episodes in season three with Stiles not being able to sleep or read... but it went downhill soon after. There were like three really good, effective, creepy episodes. I had high hopes, and then... bleh.
|by Anonymous||reply 299||03/16/2019|
Have the ‘gay’ characters had an epiphany and tried the wonders of snatch yet? You know Gregg won’t not put that in at some stage.
|by Anonymous||reply 300||03/16/2019|
Yes, Dylan O'Brien carried 3B even when the writing let them down.
Looks like the 2nd episode is up, so I guess I am doing it.
|by Anonymous||reply 301||03/16/2019|
Alright, there is just an episode of Miami Vice instead under Now Apocalypse. Why are you doing this to me? I thought I was too drunk, but twitter shows me over people have gone through the same thing.
|by Anonymous||reply 302||03/16/2019|
Just leaving this here before I go to bed, what the hell Starz.
|by Anonymous||reply 303||03/16/2019|
I thought it aired on Sundays.
|by Anonymous||reply 304||03/16/2019|
[Quote] I enjoyed the episodes in season three with Stiles not being able to sleep or read... but it went downhill soon after.
[Quote] Yes, Dylan O'Brien carried 3B even when the writing let them down.
Eh I thought 3B was overrated. It was worse than 3A.
|by Anonymous||reply 305||03/17/2019|
Too bad Kaboom didn't give us the obvious payoff scene: the one where Smith informs Thor that, as Prince of the new world, he orders Thor to service his royal hole with Thor's monster dick until further notice.
|by Anonymous||reply 306||03/17/2019|
If you have the Starz app the second episode is available.
|by Anonymous||reply 307||03/17/2019|
The Starz channel (on Amazon Prime at least) is still showing Miami Vice.
|by Anonymous||reply 308||03/17/2019|
I've seen the second episode.
I'm actually enjoying Avan Jogia's character/storyline but I really don't care about the blonde cam girl and her relationship drama that took up half the fucking episode.
|by Anonymous||reply 309||03/17/2019|
I only care about the cam girl because her dim boyfriend is hot. I can do without the weirdness that is Beau's storyline with his scientist girlfriend but at least we were treated to his ass and bulge in this episode.
|by Anonymous||reply 310||03/17/2019|
The "scientist girlfriend" is the worst part... she's utterly unconvincing and there's nothing grounded in any sort of reality there... you have to start from some grounding to go into the weird stuff, and this is just shitty 'hot girl scientists' tropes from bad porn. It really takes me out of the show.
|by Anonymous||reply 311||03/17/2019|
I'm still waiting to be able to watch it. Amazon finally fixed the Miami Vice mistake, but now it just says content unavailable.
|by Anonymous||reply 312||03/17/2019|
[quote]he "scientist girlfriend" is the worst part... she's utterly unconvincing and there's nothing grounded in any sort of reality there
In some interview Araki said the character was inspired by Joseph Gordon Levitt's wife who is a successful robotics engineer.
|by Anonymous||reply 313||03/17/2019|
The scientist girlfriend is going to be one of those reptilian things isn't she?
|by Anonymous||reply 314||03/17/2019|
this show has Araki's mark all over it...so reminiscent of Nowhere and Doom Generation: hot dirty looking guys, casual sex, aliens and the lighting scheme. I'm enjoying it. Agree with the posters above: the str8 roomie and his girls freind are blah, but I do like the relationship between Avan and the Cam girl bestie (and their storylines).
|by Anonymous||reply 315||03/17/2019|
I thought they were setting up Ford for some kind of Bryan Singer situation.
|by Anonymous||reply 316||03/17/2019|
I think they are. While Ford was on the phone with his girlfriend? Otto told Barnabas Ford had a tight ass and wanted to bend him over a bench.
|by Anonymous||reply 317||03/17/2019|
I wonder if they were specifically going for Singer, but given the pool party setting, it just seemed obvious.
I will say I find Uly being stuck on Gabriel oddly relatable. Seeing the "composing message" ellipsis and then have it vanish is agonizing.
|by Anonymous||reply 318||03/17/2019|
Scientist girl is the worst actress.
LOVE hot roommate guy though.
|by Anonymous||reply 319||03/17/2019|
Seriously, the "scientist" girlfriend is just the worst. He line-readings couldn't be more flat and stilted. Painful.
|by Anonymous||reply 320||03/17/2019|
I kinda love all the scenes the lead is in.
And lose interest in most of the other scenes.
|by Anonymous||reply 321||03/17/2019|
Episode 2 seemed like Arakis playing with his actor dolls making them have all have sex.
|by Anonymous||reply 322||03/17/2019|
We aren't even at the sex episode yet r322, I think that is episode 8 where they are doing a whole episode of sex.
|by Anonymous||reply 323||03/17/2019|
R322 He knows the gay sex is the only vaguely interesting thing about his work.
|by Anonymous||reply 324||03/17/2019|
Where are the pics of Beau's hairy ass??
|by Anonymous||reply 325||03/17/2019|
Props to Beau, its not often you see ass hair make it into a TV sex scene.
|by Anonymous||reply 326||03/18/2019|
If this show is mostly about sex, why not simply watch porn?
Avan is hot, with a big dick, but I had no idea what a terrible actor he was. Just horrible, almost as bad as the scientist GF.
If Avan wasn't so attractive, he wouldn't have a career.
|by Anonymous||reply 327||03/18/2019|
[quote]If Avan wasn't so attractive, he wouldn't have a career.
Say hello to half of Hollywood.
|by Anonymous||reply 328||03/18/2019|
Not really R328, Avan's acting is really BAD! I'm sure his big dick got him hired for many roles.
There are tons of attractive actors and actresses who can actually act. Avan is terrible.
|by Anonymous||reply 329||03/18/2019|
[quote]Seriously, the "scientist" girlfriend is just the worst. Her line-readings couldn't be more flat and stilted. Painful.
Actually, in the first episode when I first saw her in her office setting, I thought she was playing a bad actress playing a scientist.
|by Anonymous||reply 330||03/18/2019|
Perfect hairy ass
|by Anonymous||reply 331||03/18/2019|
R331 you were not exaggerating lol
|by Anonymous||reply 332||03/18/2019|
Damn! Beau's ass is hot! So glad he doesn't shave or wax it.
|by Anonymous||reply 333||03/18/2019|
I'll admit Beau is, well, beau, but fucking hell this has to be the worst television programme of all time. It's so bad.
|by Anonymous||reply 334||03/18/2019|
R334 = Ryan Murphy
|by Anonymous||reply 335||03/18/2019|
Watched it. Terrible.
And I prefer a smooth ass, so beau’s doesn’t do jack for me 🤷♀️
|by Anonymous||reply 336||03/18/2019|
Araki's work is so overrated.
Now everyone'n doing shock value. He's lost in the crowd now.
|by Anonymous||reply 337||03/18/2019|
Amazon finally got their shit together and so I could watch the episode today. Overall I thought this flowed smoother than the pilot, there was more of a sense of a plot.
[quote]I think they are. While Ford was on the phone with his girlfriend? Otto told Barnabas Ford had a tight ass and wanted to bend him over a bench.
I didn't catch that so thanks, but even without that it is super obvious that Barnabas and Otto just are humoring him because their goal is to get into his pants.
[quote]I wonder if they were specifically going for Singer, but given the pool party setting, it just seemed obvious.
Of course pool parties at common in LA, but still my mind went to the them making allusions to the Singer crowd.
[quote]Seriously, the "scientist" girlfriend is just the worst. He line-readings couldn't be more flat and stilted. Painful.
Yes, the rest of their cast can hold their own, but whenever she has a lot of dialog it feels like I am watching an amateur film and takes me out of the show. I'm fine with some emotionless hot scientist character in theory, but she is just not at the level of the rest of the cast and the show suffers as a result.
[quote]Seeing the "composing message" ellipsis and then have it vanish is agonizing.
Yeah, that was a great little moment.
I was even entertained in the scenes with the cam girl and her boyfriend and that doesn't have Beau beefcake or gay content, so I think overall the show is growing up. I just really hope the girl playing Severine gets better as the season goes on.
|by Anonymous||reply 338||03/18/2019|
growing on me*
|by Anonymous||reply 339||03/18/2019|
R331, he needs to wax that shit. Harry asses are nasty.
|by Anonymous||reply 340||03/18/2019|
Beau's bod is unreal; 100% hairy beef. You just shut your lying mouth, r340.
Having said that, I'm with r334. This show shouldn't be on TV in 2019. Every aspect of it is so stilted and dated, it just makes me feel embarrassed for Araki.
|by Anonymous||reply 341||03/18/2019|
R340 Truth - he should wax his hole as well.
|by Anonymous||reply 342||03/18/2019|
We're not going to solve this age-old conflict in this thread, boys.
Having said that, he should stop shaving and trimming altogether.
|by Anonymous||reply 343||03/18/2019|
Does this last more than one season?
|by Anonymous||reply 344||03/18/2019|
Yes. Already renewed.
|by Anonymous||reply 345||03/18/2019|
It's obviously made for peanuts so a second season was a no-brainer. Beyond that, we'll see.
|by Anonymous||reply 346||03/18/2019|
I love Gregg Araki’s old stuff but this show is... bad. Really bad.
|by Anonymous||reply 347||03/18/2019|
The show seems to be a big hit with Millennials and Gen Z already.
|by Anonymous||reply 348||03/18/2019|
I still believe there is something Mulholland Drive going on with Beau's character story. Like, in the end we find out that the show is just some drug induced dream of Ford trying to cope with the fact that his life in LA didn't work out for him at all and he became jaded and bitter and a total junkie who killed his best friend and roommate Ulysses when Ulysses caught him stealing his stuff to buy himself drugs.
|by Anonymous||reply 349||03/18/2019|
R348 They should watch Looking instead, which was actually about sexual intimacy and relationships between gay men, not just an apocalyptic porn.
|by Anonymous||reply 350||03/18/2019|
R350 Araki doesn't know how to do anything that isn't at least somewhat porn.
|by Anonymous||reply 351||03/18/2019|
Do they show cock in this show? Or only boobs?
|by Anonymous||reply 352||03/18/2019|
[quote]Every aspect of it is so stilted and dated, it just makes me feel embarrassed for Araki.
Almost every Araki film is that way (I feel Mysterious Skin is the exception). It's his brand but it holds a certain charm. Charm = hot guys.
|by Anonymous||reply 353||03/18/2019|
Not many shows in the US even on STARZ, HBO or Showtime show cock R352
|by Anonymous||reply 354||03/18/2019|
|by Anonymous||reply 355||03/18/2019|
Who is the guy in OP’s pic? Is that supposed to be Tyler Perry? It looks nothing like him.
|by Anonymous||reply 356||03/18/2019|
It's not only supposed to be Tyler Posey, R356, IT IS!
|by Anonymous||reply 357||03/18/2019|
That looks nothing like him in the face.
|by Anonymous||reply 358||03/18/2019|
Well, to be honest, it does look absolutely nothing like Tyler Perry.
But it's totally Tyler Posey.
|by Anonymous||reply 359||03/18/2019|
Posey lost weight and it makes him look older. I'm sure the smoking doesn't help either.
|by Anonymous||reply 360||03/18/2019|
Once again, the "Kinsey 4" (lmao) lead is sexless while all of his straight friends are having sex. The gay sex are either interrupted, handjob (whie clothed) or baited. And honestly we don't need another guy falling for a straight roommate.
All these things along with the Kinsey makes me think this is actually meant to be shown in 2010. This is fucking cliched and outdated, did the writers even think before writing this?
|by Anonymous||reply 361||03/18/2019|
r348 It's not.
|by Anonymous||reply 362||03/18/2019|
R361 what do you expect? Written by an obnoxious gay/bi/queer/gay/queer retard and some millennial ‘bi’ woman who has only had serious relationships with men (including her now current long term bf).
Good gay content is never going to come from these loosers. They are too far up their own arse, and buy too much into queer theory for anything so ‘basic’.
|by Anonymous||reply 363||03/19/2019|
Is the Kinsey scale a dated concept now?
|by Anonymous||reply 364||03/19/2019|
[quote] The gay sex are either interrupted, handjob (whie clothed) or baited. And honestly we don't need another guy falling for a straight roommate.
It's all about the DRAMA! Fictional people without issues deal with a fucked up situation in a less drama way than a fictional person struggles with emotional conflicts and issues. But of course, don't let that get in the way of the anti queer troll.
And loosers? Really? Oh, dear.
|by Anonymous||reply 365||03/19/2019|
Sorry, a fictional person who struggles with ..
|by Anonymous||reply 366||03/19/2019|
r364 yea only oldies use that nowadays
|by Anonymous||reply 367||03/19/2019|
Has there been any kind of suggestion of plot yet?
|by Anonymous||reply 368||03/19/2019|
Possibly one of the worst shows I've ever seen. Why was this dreck even allowed to air?
|by Anonymous||reply 369||03/19/2019|
Yeah...this show is very Araki--shallow, dated and utterly brainless--so I get why DL loves it. Tyler and Avan look like brothers--OF COURSE--almost interchangeable. The ONLY redeeming think about it is the lead's BF who is CLEARLY above this material. Hopefully, she'll get something of this.
Also, Mirchoff is proof that you CANNOT determine penis size when it's flaccid. He had a nubbin in those trunks, but if you've seen his JO video, that just ain't the case and his body is FUCKING ridiculous. I wanted to lick my screen!
|by Anonymous||reply 370||03/19/2019|
You can NOT have a queer show without a transgender woman of color.
|by Anonymous||reply 371||03/19/2019|
Araki is too pretentious for me.
|by Anonymous||reply 372||03/19/2019|
I hope that will be true but there are no official sources saying that r345, it just comes from questionable blogs.
|by Anonymous||reply 373||03/19/2019|
r370 Just to clarify, his bulge on the show is clearly the result of (generous) padding, because his actual hard dick is an average size.
And yes, his body is unreal. His chest alone seems like it just goes on and on forever.
|by Anonymous||reply 374||03/19/2019|
A bulge is largely about ball size, Beau has nice testes.
|by Anonymous||reply 375||03/19/2019|
No, you can clearly see what's supposed to be his dick in those briefs and it makes me laugh because I know that ridiculous girth isn't his own.
|by Anonymous||reply 376||03/19/2019|
I go to Greg for that nostalgic mid 90s teenage feeling. Not so much for the sex scenes. Which are hit and miss.
|by Anonymous||reply 377||03/19/2019|
It's sexually graphic which is quite rare these days. All the other shows I watch do that "making out / starting to take of their clothes, cut to the aftermath where they get out of bed in their underwear or wrap the blanket around their bodies".
|by Anonymous||reply 378||03/19/2019|
R365 oh bugger off. Where is the same ‘drama’ for the straight sex scenes then? You are either Gregg or the co writer defending this both dumb and boring shitshow.
Not really offended at being called ‘antiqueer’, as most ‘queers’ are anti gay so they can fuck right off.
|by Anonymous||reply 379||03/19/2019|
Everyone on this thread has watched MUCH worse for the eye candy
|by Anonymous||reply 380||03/19/2019|
I enjoy it very much.
|by Anonymous||reply 381||03/19/2019|
The Thread to Hate on "Now Apocalypse" After Its Premiere
|by Anonymous||reply 382||03/19/2019|
I’m confused. Is the show an ensemble cast or is Ulysses the main character? He opens and close the first two episodes but besides that he barely gets any screen time compared to the straight characters.
|by Anonymous||reply 383||03/19/2019|
And on the basis of the straight characters, why do they get more sex scenes than Ulysses and why are they prolonged and way more explicit? We know Ulysses is not a prude because the pilot opens with him fucking some other guy’s husband and he and Tyler (forgot the characters name) hooked up on the first date. I just find it strange how the show is supposed to focus on Ulysses and his relationship with Tyler was heavily if not the most prominent promoted by the show but it barely focuses on them. It skips the gay content and focuses on the straight one.
|by Anonymous||reply 384||03/19/2019|
I don’t know if it’s the studio or Aracki himself doing this but if your not going to focus on Ulysses and his gay (even though he’s technically bi) content then why make his the main character. Why is the only queer male represented on the show treated like a side character? Is it because he’s gay leaning? Will the show put more focus on him if he gets with a woman? Why does Aracki treat his gay characters like shit? I feel like he puts them in his films just to have something bad happen to them compared to the other characters?
|by Anonymous||reply 385||03/19/2019|
I'm watching for Beau. Beau in short shorts. Beau in underwear. Beau nude. Beau Beau Beau.
|by Anonymous||reply 386||03/19/2019|
It sucks that Ulysses doesn’t get much screen time because he’s got the most interesting storyline and the most captivating character. Who honestly cares about cam girl and writer dude? Most of you guys talk about Beau because you find him hot. Y’all barely talk about his storylines unless it’s to mention how bad an actress the girlfriend is and can girl is barely mentioned. On the subject of beau’s storyline why is the only other queer men shown predators? Not saying there can’t be gay predators on the show but to see the way the other queer male’s treated their inclusion is very suspect.
|by Anonymous||reply 387||03/19/2019|
Doesn’t Ulysses have any other friends or acquaintances besides those two straight characters? Why is the show bringing in more relationships for the two straight characters while Ulysses is stuck with them. They have a life outside of Ulysses while his is focused around them. Who asked for a storyline focused on beau sleeping with his girlfriend’s girlfriend? And the straight best friend trope is so overdone.
|by Anonymous||reply 388||03/19/2019|
The gays are offended again.
|by Anonymous||reply 389||03/19/2019|
OMG SHUT UP. It's a show about young vapid hotties in LA with alien monsters
|by Anonymous||reply 390||03/19/2019|
[quote] Everyone on this thread has watched MUCH worse for the eye candy.
Are you talking to me who has seen all of the David DeCoteau's Brotherhood films?
|by Anonymous||reply 391||03/19/2019|
R389 maybe try to understand why the gays might be offended.
|by Anonymous||reply 392||03/19/2019|
R391 Ah yes, most gaybaiting silliness ever.
|by Anonymous||reply 393||03/19/2019|
R390 so what if it is? Just because it’s a vapid show about vapid people doesn’t mean it can’t be criticized.
|by Anonymous||reply 394||03/19/2019|
I can't even take these posts seriously. Uly hooks up with two guys in episode 1, and we go one episode without him hooking up with someone and some off kilter bitches are ready to riot.
Talk a walk, take an ambien.
|by Anonymous||reply 395||03/19/2019|
This show is worse than Riverdale. (and this is not even close to being as popular)
|by Anonymous||reply 396||03/19/2019|
Wait, fuckin Riverdale? Where does that come from? That's such a random show to compare this to.
I get the "Looking" or "Queer As Folk" talk, but Riverdale?
|by Anonymous||reply 397||03/19/2019|
r395 lmao hooking up while clothed and a very short interrupted session? HAHAHA hi Greg 👋
|by Anonymous||reply 398||03/19/2019|
r397 because Riverdale is a bad show. Looking and QaF at least I can understand why it is a good show.
|by Anonymous||reply 399||03/19/2019|
R392 Gay gay gay gay man here and I think you all need a valium.
R391 damn. you got me beat.
|by Anonymous||reply 400||03/19/2019|
I refuse to believe there is a person on the planet who has actually watched all those DeCoteau films, not even DeCoteau himself would.
|by Anonymous||reply 401||03/19/2019|
I have watched a fair number of them, although that is somewhat due to the fact that I am one of those people who enjoys bad movies.
|by Anonymous||reply 402||03/19/2019|
R395 like another poster said a short sex sequence and a fully clothed mutual handjob compared to countless prolonged and highly visualized heterosexual scenes.
|by Anonymous||reply 403||03/19/2019|
R403 call the ACLU
|by Anonymous||reply 404||03/19/2019|
OTOH, Uly used a condom when he was banging the married dude. I figured that would win some points around here.
|by Anonymous||reply 405||03/19/2019|
Yeah, I noticed Araki has gone out of his way to mention condoms with the sex scenes. He is trying to fight the good fight.
|by Anonymous||reply 406||03/19/2019|
Just click ignore on the shrieking SJW harpy cauterwaling about the lack of GAY representation on this GAY ass show.
|by Anonymous||reply 407||03/19/2019|
[Quote]highly visualized heterosexual scenes
When those scenes are about showing off Beau's sexy body they aren't THAT straight lol
|by Anonymous||reply 408||03/19/2019|
R408 except the ones where it focuses on the girlfriends body.
|by Anonymous||reply 409||03/19/2019|
R407 but hardly focuses on the lead and spends the runtime focusing on the straight characters and their sex scenes. And what’s the problem of me using queer?
|by Anonymous||reply 410||03/19/2019|
Just shows that this show's apologists are not very bright people. They can't even find a valid rebuttal so they turn to name-calling and constant insults that are irrelevant to the person's statements
|by Anonymous||reply 411||03/19/2019|
R411 or some people just think crying over a show about space lizards not being constant butt sex after 2 episodes is ridiculous
|by Anonymous||reply 412||03/19/2019|
r412 Or... it is actually a bad show and they're just expressing additional points that needed to be raised.
|by Anonymous||reply 413||03/19/2019|
R413 Or it's TV cotton candy, never meant to be deep. It's eye candy with a mildly entertaining plot, not The Wire or Sopranos. Pull out your Looking Blu-rays and relax
|by Anonymous||reply 414||03/19/2019|
Lol gregg’s Prolapsed “I’m gay, but maybe I’m not anymore, but maybe I am” asshole is all over this thread now. Give it up. It’s a shit show. I’m not going to watch it for soft core porn when I can click anothe tab on my laptop and actually watch gay porn.
|by Anonymous||reply 415||03/19/2019|
Yet you are still here obsessively posting about the show r415...
|by Anonymous||reply 416||03/19/2019|
Mysterious Skin and The Living End (its guerilla filmmaking, notwithstanding) are really quite entertaining and terrific films.
|by Anonymous||reply 417||03/19/2019|
Hardly ‘obsessively posting about the show; check the receipts, it’s several people trashing it. And yes, that’s what datalounge is about.......if something is targeted to gay men and it’s shit, then I can talk about how it’s shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 418||03/19/2019|
Whatever you have to tell yourself r418, but you are watching the show and actively talking about it. Araki is winning.
It's the same thing in the AHS threads, people want to complain it is terrible yet they religiously watch it and love spending their time talking about it. Then wonder why it keeps getting renewed.
|by Anonymous||reply 419||03/19/2019|
R412 so you’re saying we can’t critique it because it’s not a serious show? And you read what I posted and came out of it thinking I wanted more butt sex?
|by Anonymous||reply 420||03/19/2019|
R414 it not being deep doesn’t make it immune to criticism nor does it mean it’s message can’t be harmful. Dumb shows can be as harmful if not more harmful then serious shows. If you don’t have a problem with it fine but how about you just ignore us? Because all you’re doing is whining about us whining. And what’s the point of even having a thread about a show if we can’t also talk about it’s and it’s creators faults?
|by Anonymous||reply 421||03/19/2019|
I must have missed James Duval's cameo in the first episode. Who was he? I just looked him up and he's not aged well. He was such a cutie.
|by Anonymous||reply 422||03/19/2019|
R422 He was the hobo bottoming for the lizard
|by Anonymous||reply 423||03/19/2019|
[Quote] Dumb shows can be as harmful if not more harmful then serious shows.
|by Anonymous||reply 424||03/19/2019|
|by Anonymous||reply 425||03/19/2019|
R424 because they’re more likely to make light of problematic issues and because of their tone those issues can be seen as jokes.
|by Anonymous||reply 426||03/19/2019|
Personally, I'm a gay man who likes horror and sci-fi. I'm here for the eye candy (Beau, Avan before that BLASPHEMOUS haircut) and hopefully the lizard/alien plot goes somewhere interesting.
|by Anonymous||reply 427||03/19/2019|
R426 I don't think it's that serious. Nor would I think their audience is that dumb.
|by Anonymous||reply 428||03/20/2019|
r419 the problem is AHS is successful show for feminists and this show is just a flop. People probably only watch this for porn, because there is no way that plot is interesting. This is like Cinemax, but with mild gay sex.
|by Anonymous||reply 429||03/20/2019|
r428 the only positive I've read about this is "eye candy". If that is not shallow....
|by Anonymous||reply 430||03/20/2019|
[Quote] the problem is AHS is successful show for feminists
|by Anonymous||reply 431||03/20/2019|
Ok *initially* it was successful worldwide, basically it went downhill when Lange left (although the fans did not like Season 4 at all). I stopped watching after 3 episodes last season.
|by Anonymous||reply 432||03/20/2019|
AVERAGE? You porn-obsessed posters with your average bullshit. That is NOT an average-sized penis.
[quote][R422] He was the hobo bottoming for the lizard
Whuh? I thought that was Posey. Jesus
I don’t think posters are opposed to criticism of the show. I think it’s more why even bother applying the GLADD standards and practices to a REALLY dumb show about space lizards. I mean...do you honestly think this show is worthy of being put under a microscope?
|by Anonymous||reply 433||03/20/2019|
[quote] Dumb shows can be as harmful if not more harmful then serious shows.
When you get hurt, or triggered, by a show and you keep watching it to keep being offended, and post your outrage on social media, it's not only the show that is dumb.
|by Anonymous||reply 434||03/20/2019|
I want to know if the lizard has size meat.
|by Anonymous||reply 435||03/20/2019|
R428 never said it was I was being anecdotal. I just mean that just because a media is meant to be dumb and not taken seriously doesn’t mean it’s immune to criticism.
|by Anonymous||reply 436||03/20/2019|
R74 is a homosexist who doesn’t get that most bisexuals still have an orientation around one gender — not both.
|by Anonymous||reply 437||03/20/2019|
AHS is garbage that is treated like quality television. That's what I take issue with.
|by Anonymous||reply 438||03/20/2019|
One man's garbage is another man's treasure. Having an issue with that is pretty much insisting that humanity would be better off with a hive mentality where all have the exact same likes and dislikes.
But that would fuck with insecure douchebags who rely on declaring others inferior and themselves superior in order to feel better about themselves. Like"my taste is better, and more sophisticated, than yours!".
|by Anonymous||reply 439||03/20/2019|
R437 what are you talking about?
|by Anonymous||reply 440||03/20/2019|
Depth is too heavy to take all the time. Sometimes you just need a light, romantic comedy. The straights have escapism in spades, so why shouldn't we?
|by Anonymous||reply 441||03/20/2019|
I'm more interested in the muscle fuck god who played the "writer Otto West" that Ford was impressed with.
Who the fuck is Devan Long? Does anyone know if he's gay?
|by Anonymous||reply 442||03/20/2019|
R434 yes because seeing the first two episodes is actively watching it. Like a person can’t like the pilot but still watch the following episode to see if it gets better.
|by Anonymous||reply 443||03/20/2019|
[quote]Who the fuck is Devan Long?
A spectacularly bad actor, based on his work in the episode.
|by Anonymous||reply 444||03/20/2019|
I've seen S.W.A.T. and a couple episodes of SUNNY IN PHILADELPHIA, but I don't remember this muscle daddy.
He needs to fuck my hole.
|by Anonymous||reply 445||03/20/2019|
I guess Devan is straight :(
|by Anonymous||reply 446||03/20/2019|
What is Araki pretentious about, r372?
His main characters are like him -- neurotic bisexuals in self-doubt. They're pretty down-to-earth.
|by Anonymous||reply 447||03/20/2019|
[quote] yes because seeing the first two episodes is actively watching it. Like a person can’t like the pilot but still watch the following episode to see if it gets better.
LOL. You are actively watching it so you share your disapproval about it. Just ask yourself what is more important to you: The show or you making sure that others are aware that you have such a far superior and sophisticated taste?
|by Anonymous||reply 448||03/20/2019|
Just here for Beau’s hairy beef
|by Anonymous||reply 449||03/20/2019|
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|by Anonymous||reply 451||03/20/2019|
R448 except that’s not at all why I was watching it. Why would I waste my time on a show if I knew from the jump I was going to hate on it? I watched it because of the ads and I thought it looked interesting. I only started criticizing the content of the show after watching it. I never have I said my taste were superior. First taste is relative and second I never criticized anybody for liking the show. Just because I criticized the content of the show doesn’t mean I’m criticizing the people who enjoy it. I’m going to keep watching it because I want to see what becomes of Ulysses storyline. And if I see problems along the way I want to comment on then I will. Because what’s the point of this thread if you can’t point out your grievance? MOST of the post in this thread come from people posting their grievance about this show. If you have a problem with that you can either enjoy it or leave.
|by Anonymous||reply 452||03/20/2019|
Well, it's good to have the right expectations for a show and tolerate shows that serve different purposes.
|by Anonymous||reply 453||03/20/2019|
R447 no neurotic bisexuals are down to earth, mate. Narcissistic fucktards, so far up their own ass more like. And what the fuck is a ‘homsexist’.
At this point I’m more than happy to be labeled a biphobe. I genuinely think they have mental issues. Unironically fucked in the head egotists
|by Anonymous||reply 454||03/20/2019|
FWIW, the alien presence and "Severine Bordeaux" character seem too much like DUDE, WHERE'S MY CAR.
I think we're being set up to at least think Severine is an alien probing or reproducing with humans. She's a lot like the Alien Jumpsuit Chicks.
|by Anonymous||reply 455||03/20/2019|
R455 that’s what I was thinking. It would explain the actress’s acting.
|by Anonymous||reply 456||03/20/2019|
Gosh, I'd forgotten how goofily handsome and sexy Seann William Scott is. Where's he been?
|by Anonymous||reply 457||03/20/2019|
[quote] I just find it strange how the show is supposed to focus on Ulysses and his relationship with Tyler was heavily if not the most prominent promoted by the show but it barely focuses on them.
Posey and his team were actually the ones who promoted the hell out of the relationship. From the sheer number of articles and interviews with Posey one would think that he was the main character instead of just a side character.
Posey is desperate to get as much publicity as possible out of this show and to express how ok he is to play gay. But he never forgets to stress in every article that he is straight lol. From the article where he says his girlfriend told him to take the role (because it would be great exposure for him) to the article where he - as a straight person - is so comfortable with his sexuality and he "hopes that this inspires the LGBT community to be comfortable with their sexuality as well" lmao.
The interviews would actually sound much more genuine if Posey didn't feel the need to emphasize in every single one of them that he was straight and had a girlfriend. But now it just seems like he's exploiting playing gay as a way to get publicity. It was the same with JTV. There were several interviews with him about his bi role and how proud he was about it although bisexuality wasn't actually important for his character arc on the show at all. In the last episodes his character only said that he was interested in men as well (totally out of the blue) and that was it. I would hardly call that groundbreaking bi-representation.
|by Anonymous||reply 458||03/20/2019|
R458 True. I worked with an actor once who had played gay a few times. He did an article about how actors shouldn't be afraid to do so. He mentioned being straight seven times. I made him cut it down to two.
|by Anonymous||reply 459||03/20/2019|
Guys, it's an ensemble show and you're only in the second episode. They'll develop Posey more later.
He already gave you a Handy J.
|by Anonymous||reply 460||03/20/2019|
I find Posey the least attractive of the guys (but still hot)
-runs away from flying tomatoes-
|by Anonymous||reply 461||03/20/2019|
Posey is only a recurring character, he isn't a lead.
|by Anonymous||reply 462||03/20/2019|
Tyler Posey is welcome to exploit the fuck out of my gay self.
|by Anonymous||reply 463||03/20/2019|
[quote] I find Posey the least attractive of the guys (but still hot)
-runs away from flying tomatoes-
I don't understand DL's fascination with Posey. Most of the time he looks greasy and not attractive at all. But perhaps it's because of his several nude videos and other kinky behaviour like getting spanked on TV or showing his bulge or himself peeing on his snapchat.
|by Anonymous||reply 464||03/20/2019|
Posey had the hottest sex tape leak playing with his precum. That makes him a favorite of mine.
|by Anonymous||reply 465||03/20/2019|
R460 is the cast really an ensemble cast? Because the promotion and the reviews seem to think Avan is the starring actor. Kinda like how sex and the city is the Sarah show and not like friends.
The problem is not about Tyler’s lack of development but the lack of Ulysses. And are really supposed to be satisfied by a hj scene when the other characters get prolonged, explicit sex scenes? I wouldn’t have a big problem with it if Ulysses was like a supporting character but he’s like the lead character.
|by Anonymous||reply 466||03/20/2019|
R458 for someone who doesn't like Posey, you seem to know a lot about him.
|by Anonymous||reply 467||03/20/2019|
R458 Posey is smart enough to get that his looks are the only card he's got.
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|by Anonymous||reply 469||03/20/2019|
Besides finding the actors attractive what do you guys like about the show so far?
|by Anonymous||reply 470||03/20/2019|
Ulysses is preoccupied by the space lizards and not constantly having sex. The horror.
|by Anonymous||reply 471||03/20/2019|
r467 he's gathering evidences to prove his points. You can't just say Posey is milking his gay character without any proof that he actually does.
|by Anonymous||reply 472||03/20/2019|
R471 that’s not what is being complained about. The problem is that he’s supposed to be the main focus but for some reason he’s not given much screen time compared to the other characters nor is his sexuality treated equally. He’s the only queer male of the main cast but his sex scenes so far have been shorter and less explicit compared to the heterosexual characters. It’s basically a cable porn show so why is most of the sex shown heterosexual when the lead is a gay leaning bi male? We know the character isn’t a prude and doesn’t seem to care much about cheating because the show opened with him fucking somebody else’s husband.
|by Anonymous||reply 473||03/20/2019|
[Quote] he's gathering evidences to prove his points
|by Anonymous||reply 474||03/20/2019|
Avan is the main character and it's from his point of view. He even spins what's happening to the other characters for us.
But the show still has multiple storylines it's following: Severine vs. Ford, where Ford is the protagonist and Carly vs. Jethro, where Carly is the protagonist.
So it is an ensemble piece — any time you have a lot of scenes without Avan. That's typical of TV. This is just a hip soap opera/ light comedy.
|by Anonymous||reply 475||03/20/2019|
I think you're jumping to conclusions, r473.
It's only on episode 2. There are 8, more episodes left which have plenty of time for more gay sex scenes and development. So give it some time, maybe?
If you're such a pig that you can't take an interest in the problems of people different than you, maybe you should just wait until all episodes are aired and search the internet for the gay sex scenes only.
|by Anonymous||reply 476||03/20/2019|
R476 yet your better even though you called me a pig because you disagree with me? And where was I doing anything you said I was? I never named called anybody for disagreeing with me or even be disrespectful towards them. You’re the one with the problem. You’re getting angry with people because they’re voicing their negative opinion on the show even though voicing opinions is the whole point of threads like these. If our presence on here is causing you so much anger that you resort to name calling then maybe you should sit this one out.
I am giving it time that’s why I am planning on finishing the season. And it’s NOT just about gay sex scenes. It’s about the queer male sexuality not being as explicit as the heterosexuality shown. Wether that comes through to you is on you.
I very clearly am judging my criticism on the first two episodes like I have previously stated. If you have a problem with that then maybe you should ignore me or leave until all the episodes are out. I will be satisfied if through out the remaining episodes the problems I have with the first two episodes are rectified. Easy as that.
You’re making this more of a issue then it needs to be. You’re just going to have to deal that people can have and can also voice their negative opinions on shows you like. Grow up!
|by Anonymous||reply 477||03/20/2019|
And my issue lies more with Aracki honestly. When he became more mainstream the gay content became more like subtext and the gay or more feminine leaning male were more severely punished. Plus his views even though not intentionally or overtly homophobic just makes me more aware of the shows flaws.
|by Anonymous||reply 478||03/20/2019|
Ashamed much? You oughta be.
Why aren't queer filmmakers allowed to do mainstream content in addition to queer content?
The queer audience is tiny and it's an act of nobility to do any at all. They have to eat, so it's perfectly fair to do content for straight people, with straight characters and problems.
Several queer filmmakers do mainstream content to pay the bills: John Waters, Alan Ball, Julie Taymor Adam Shankman, Elen Degeneres; the list goes all the way down to putzes like Andy Cohen.
Who are you to say they can't, or that they have nothing to offer straight people? A LOT of their work is excellent.
Once again, you've proven you're a pig and homosexist. Al Gayda Terrorist Network at it again!
Datalounge is the wrong place if you want to make moronic, chauvinist statements with no name-calling in return.
|by Anonymous||reply 479||03/20/2019|
R479 lol someone is an unhinged bi twat.
|by Anonymous||reply 480||03/20/2019|
R479 Where did I say he couldn’t? My problem lies with him including with the way the gay characters are treated when they are added. He can make all the straight films he wants but it’s weird how the treatment of the gay characters when added to these films differ from films that were centered around them films that were more queer. Because it just comes off as pandering to the gays to get support but switch to the straights for more mainstream success. Again to reiterate for you I have a problem with how gays in his films are treated after he became more mainstream then to when he was making films to appeal to queer people.
What’s an act of nobility? So just because he made queer films he can’t do no wrong to queer people? Just because we rarely get films doesn’t mean we have to accept any dribble that is churned out for us. We deserve good quality media too! Not dribble made to make a profit from us. Just because you can accept that doesn’t mean I or anybody else has to.
And you’ve proven what type of a person you are to completely disregard and misinterpret everything I’ve said and call me a pig because you disagree with me. I am not putting homosexuality over any other orientation I’m just pointing out when I feel like it’s not fairly being represented. If anything you sound more homophobic then I am a chauvinist. Just because you resort to name calling doesn’t mean I have to lower myself to your level to attempt to prove a point no matter where we are.
|by Anonymous||reply 481||03/20/2019|
It comes down to "why keep watching, if you already know you hate it (based on Araki's previous work)? Because you want to comment how shitty it is and how everybody who is interested in the show is a stupid loser with no taste".
|by Anonymous||reply 482||03/21/2019|
JERRY! JERRY! JERRY!
|by Anonymous||reply 483||03/21/2019|
R467 We were discussing the LGBT representation in this show and that the relationship between Posey and the main character was heavily advertised. I just responded to this subject matter. And as I'm interested in the show I also read some interviews about it of course.
I was just pointing out Posey's behaviour. And of course I gave examples so that people could understand my point. You don't have to be a big fan of a person to discuss the behaviour of a person. DL is a gossip and discussion blog and not a pure fan blog where you're only allowed to post nice things about your fave.
|by Anonymous||reply 484||03/21/2019|
I don’t get being insulted by straight actors declaring their heterosexuality when playing gay roles--especially if they’re single. Christ, just look at some of the threads on DL. Some of you are fucking insane and probably need boundaries established. Besides...who wants to be saying “I’m flattered, but I’m straight” or the opposite for that matter--all day?
As long as it’s brought up fluidly, I don’t see the problem. That’s YOUR hang up.
|by Anonymous||reply 485||03/21/2019|
This thread has been taken over by professional gay victim/s. Must be a miserable existence living your life looking for fault in everything.
|by Anonymous||reply 486||03/21/2019|
I'm not insulted by him simply stating is heterosexuality. I've absolutely no problem with straight actors playing gay characters either. The point is that Posey, who isn't a main character on the show, makes interview after interview how proud he is to play gay or how he always wanted to be part of the gay community (whatever that should mean?). It's not like he gets asked randomly about it. He specifically goes out there to promote himself with the topic how gay friendly he is and how great his gay role is. He has ten times more interviews than the main character of the show.
It seems like playing gay for him is just a way to promote himself. It's something that gives him attention. He say he wants to inspire the LGBT community to be comfortable with their sexuality. And he does that by showing them how comfortable he is with playing a gay character. But this is laughable because he clearly doesn't feel very comfortable because he has to emphasize his heterosexuality in every single interview. He can't have it both ways. And with all this Posey just looks like someone who's using the gay community to get attention. Which is very disappointing.
|by Anonymous||reply 487||03/21/2019|
[quote] It seems like playing gay for him is just a way to promote himself.
Oh. My. God! HE IS WORSE THAN HITLER!!!!!!! He needs to get pushed into a grease fire for being such a shameless, self promoting attention whore!
|by Anonymous||reply 488||03/21/2019|
|by Anonymous||reply 489||03/21/2019|
[quote] Oh. My. God! HE IS WORSE THAN HITLER!!!!!!! He needs to get pushed into a grease fire for being such a shameless, self promoting attention whore!
You know. If you don't have a problem with straight actors shamelessly exploiting playing gay while simultaneously trying to distance themselves from everything gay associated that's great. But others have a problem with it, especially if the actor is known for constantly using playing gay as a joke. He's not doing normal promo. There are articles with him all over the place although he doesn't have a big role.
I don't know what you want to achieve with your comment. Noone said that it was the worst thing ever. But it's certainly not a good look for him. And it has become a pattern for him to use the LGBT community to promote himself. Nothing wrong with pointing that out.
|by Anonymous||reply 490||03/21/2019|
[Quote] If you don't have a problem with straight actors shamelessly exploiting playing gay while simultaneously trying to distance themselves from everything gay associated that's great.
Is that why he participated in a charity to find a cure for aids???
|by Anonymous||reply 491||03/21/2019|
r490. I really hope you are a troll, because you sound crazy.
[quote] shamelessly exploiting playing gay
[quote] Especially if the actor is known for constantly using playing gay as a joke.
[quote] But it's certainly not a good look for him. And it has become a pattern for him to use the LGBT community to promote himself.
Seriously, did the guy come to your house and raped your dog or something? That is some serious obsession and Posey should find out who you are and get a restraining order against you, because sooner or later you ranting about him will not be enough to satisfy your disturbing obsession.
|by Anonymous||reply 492||03/21/2019|
R492 i think it's safe to say they're a Sterek shipper. They all say the same thing on tumblr.
|by Anonymous||reply 493||03/21/2019|
r482 You're exaggerating. Nobody said that, and again, the only positive this show I've heard was is "eye candy" after n posts, since I've posted on here
|by Anonymous||reply 494||03/21/2019|
LOL, are they still after Posey for the comment he made about Sterek? That was ages ago.
|by Anonymous||reply 495||03/21/2019|
[Quote] LOL, are they still after Posey for the comment he made about Sterek? That was ages ago.
Dude, i shit you not they made an anniversary post over it lol. But there was also the time Posey made that lamp joke. I mean i don't know the gay community could ever recover from being compared to a lamp of all things 😆
|by Anonymous||reply 496||03/21/2019|
lamp joke? Must have missed that one.
|by Anonymous||reply 497||03/21/2019|
R492 Sorry to tell you that I'm not a Sterek shipper. I couldn't care less about that. And I'm also not referrencing his comments about Sterek because I actually agreed a bit with them because some Sterek shippers can be crazy.
I was referrencing to his constant jokes on his social media. His constant "oh, that is so gay" jokes with friends and constantly joking about gay things. He has a habit of using it for fun. He uses "gay" as a sort to attract attention and that can be seen with his roles and the promo for it as well. Don't dismiss everyone who makes a critical comment about Posey immediately as a Sterek shipper.
|by Anonymous||reply 498||03/21/2019|
Arakis apologists are hysterical and can't argue with reason, they instead resort to name-calling and abusive labels to degrade the person instead of actually talking about the issue the person was expressing
|by Anonymous||reply 499||03/21/2019|
Nobody takes One Million Moms serious either.
|by Anonymous||reply 500||03/21/2019|
R497 The lamp joke lol. Posey was standing next to a street sign of Gay St. He then thought it would be a good idea to make a Snapchat pointing at this sign shouting "that's me. I'm gay". Naturally all his fans thought that he just came out. And he has a big fanbase. He started trending on twitter and people congratulated him, told him how happy they were for him and celebrated it. Because most of his fanbase is from TW and there are many gay people among them.
Hours later he made another Snapchat video pointing at a lamp. Shouting "that's me. I'm a lamp". And that of course pissed off many people because they realized that his coming out had just been a joke. He should know that coming out is hard for many people and noone should joke about it easily. But this is Posey for you. He doesn't think things through.
|by Anonymous||reply 501||03/21/2019|
[Quote] And he has a big fanbase.
That's not really saying much. None of the guys from Teen Wolf are that well known. And he could've made a worse comparison. I don't see how it could've been a huge deal when not that many people knew about it to begin with.
|by Anonymous||reply 502||03/21/2019|
R482 because I want to see how Ulysses storyline turns out or if the actual show gets better. As other people who responded to me said we’ve only seen the first two episodes. Never said I hated the show and mostly stick to criticizing my perceived unequal treatment of the queer male character. I even said in my previous post that I would be satisfied if the show rectified my problems pertaining to that.
I have never judge anyone’s taste for liking this show. If you meant me using dribble I wasn’t talking about the show it self but in general and it seems like you’re projecting with the last part. I’m going to say this again. Just because I criticize a show doesn’t mean I’m criticizing the people who enjoy it nor am I criticizing their taste.
|by Anonymous||reply 503||03/21/2019|
[quote] That's not really saying much. None of the guys from Teen Wolf are that well known. And he could've made a worse comparison. I don't see how it could've been a huge deal when not that many people knew about it to begin with.
I think it was a pretty big thing because TW had a really big LGBT fanbase. So joking about coming out had a special impact on them. You'd be surprised how big the fanbase is on social media. It's mostly a very young fanbase and those people are on social media a lot. He immediately started trending on twitter. That shows you what impact it had. He has millions of followers on social media alone and of course the news also spread within the whole fandom and other fandoms. You could show a photo of Posey to young people on social media and then show them a photo of an established actor like Daniel Day Lewis and I assure you more people would recognize Posey than the A-list actor.
|by Anonymous||reply 504||03/21/2019|
R504 i'm sorry but i have to disagree. Teen Wolf isn't that well known and i don't think Posey is either. I don't think he had that big of an impact on the lgbt community.
|by Anonymous||reply 505||03/21/2019|
R485 the problem is they’re declaring their heterosexuality in a way that paints being gay as unfavorable. They paint themselves as being noble and brave for for demeaning themselves to play such a role because straight roles are the favorable ones. They have to mention how straight they are because god forbid they get seen as gay.
The further issue is that out gay actors get a limited amount of roles compared to their straight counterparts. It’s hard for up and coming gay actors to break out because people aren’t hiring them because of their sexuality. They can only pretty much count on gay roles or go back in the closet to try and make it. The gay roles these actors get are usually in small projects etc. So it it frustrating when they’re gay roles in more mainstream, door opening roles the actors are almost always straight. Why can gay actors play smaller gay roles but when it’s something big straight actors are given the role? That’s why is so upsetting for these straight actors to not only get these roles over their equally qualified gay counterparts but for them to bring their I’m not gay bullshit. If playing such a role could damage your straightness so much that you need to remind everyone how straight you are then maybe don’t take the role. Especially when starving gay actors would gladly take the role and not make it seem like their doing the gay community a favor for being a straight male demeaning themselves to play the inferior gay role.
|by Anonymous||reply 506||03/21/2019|
[quote] i'm sorry but i have to disagree. Teen Wolf isn't that well known and i don't think Posey is either. I don't think he had that big of an impact on the lgbt community.
His actions have an influence on several millions of people. Because millions of people alone follow him on his official social media (2.4m on twitter, 5.5m on IG) and of course many more who don't directly follow him know him via the fandom. Of course he doesn't have a huge impact on the LGBT community as a whole. But I would say that your actions have still quite an impact if they reach millions of people.
|by Anonymous||reply 507||03/21/2019|
R486 we don’t have to look for faults when they’re so apparent. Just because you don’t see them or even choose to ignore them doesn’t mean they aren’t there.
|by Anonymous||reply 508||03/21/2019|
The Big, Queer Universe of Gregg Araki - The filmmaker on Now Apocalypse, writing through the AIDS crisis and Trump era, and gay-baiting on Riverdale
Is he really the right person to be talking about gay-baiting? Does he actually employ any gays on his new show? Fluids don't count. I'm surprised they used the term gay-baiting, not queer-baiting. How archaic of them.
|by Anonymous||reply 509||03/21/2019|
r509 Reading that interview just confirmed to me how vapid Araki actually is...Interesting how he seems to have written his little bisexual interregnum with that actress out of history! You would think he would play it up since we are told constantly that fluidity is the new gay - a talking point that he repeats ad nauseum in these interviews but only in the abstract. But I think the motivating factor probably had more to do with his AIDS panic as the interview makes clear - he saw heterosexuality as liberating him from impending death! And by the time he figured out pussy wasn't his thing at the end of the 90s, AIDS was no longer a death sentence. Funny how that worked out...
|by Anonymous||reply 510||03/21/2019|
Reading this thread, I can understand why filmmakers like Casper Andreas, Rob Williams and Patrick-Ian Polk continue to work
|by Anonymous||reply 511||03/21/2019|
|by Anonymous||reply 512||03/21/2019|
R487 / R490 I completely agree! Tyler is using the characters gayness to get media attention and “progressive” points to appeal more to his fans. If he was really serious about what he said about the role then he wouldn’t make such a big deal out of it.
R491 just because he’s participated in aid charities doesn’t mean he can’t exploitative. You can have gay friends and still be homophobic. You can also support gay people but have no problem using them to further your career.
As the other poster stated this isn’t new coming from Tyler. He has a history of queerbating, joking about gay people and has received controversy because of it.
|by Anonymous||reply 513||03/21/2019|
Tyler Posey is actually gay (or perhaps bi), not a straight queer baiter.
|by Anonymous||reply 514||03/21/2019|
R509 he literally ‘gay baited’ by calling himself gay and then was like “lol, nope, you all thought!!” Fuck the queers.
|by Anonymous||reply 515||03/21/2019|
R510 yeah it was so weird how he skipped over his relationship with her and the backlash he got when asked about fluidity.
|by Anonymous||reply 516||03/21/2019|
R509 he is such a muppet. “I’m queer or whatever I am”. I also got proof that Avan’s character is labeled sexually fluid by Gregg and not a gay leaning bi. Plus the dumb side stepping and trying to frame his list for straight white guys as some sort of social commentary of gay culture.
What a tosser.
|by Anonymous||reply 517||03/21/2019|
|by Anonymous||reply 518||03/21/2019|
[Quote] just because he’s participated in aid charities doesn’t mean he can’t exploitative. You can have gay friends and still be homophobic.
If he's such a homophobe, why did he work with Gregg?? Why did Jeff Davis choose to work with him again after Teen Wolf ended? Do you actually know Posey??
[Quote] As the other poster stated this isn’t new coming from Tyler. He has a history of queerbating, joking about gay people and has received controversy because of it.
It's a shame Ellen didn't question him over all of this when she had him on her show.
|by Anonymous||reply 519||03/21/2019|
I also like the use of bright colors and neon lighting. The lunch scene in the second episode in particular looks very nice.
|by Anonymous||reply 520||03/21/2019|
R519 Perhaps he wasn't exactly rolling in the opportunities and knew that a bunch of gays had latched onto him from TW.
|by Anonymous||reply 521||03/21/2019|
R521 lol yes that [italic]must[/italic] be it.
|by Anonymous||reply 522||03/21/2019|
I agree that Posey uses those roles and the promo around it to get "wokeness" points. He knows that he got tons of criticism for his gay jokes, his fake coming out etc. The choice of this role seems very deliberate to show people "see, I love the gay community. You can't criticize me anymore". And it seems to work with his fanbase who praised him for playing bi in JTV (although the role was in fact a straight role as the character only confessed that he was bi shortly before he left the show). As soon we got the bi reveal he gave tons of interviews about his great bi role. Making a big deal about basically nothing.
And the same with this show. He doesn't play a main character but he has tons of interviews about his great gay role. And in every single one he has to emphasize how comfortable he is in his straightness. I doubt Posey has any problem with working with gay people. I think in the HW industry that's unavoidable. But he himself acts as a simple frat bro in private who feels comfortable to use gayness as a joke. And this is ignorant. But he also knows that gay topics bring him attention.
If playing a gay or bi character wasn't a big deal for him he wouldn't feel the need to shout it from the rooftops whenever he plays a character like that. But it seems like he deliberately chose those roles so that he and his PR team can go overdrive to promote him and his image as an "ally". He has tons of interviews out there shouting "see, I'm playing gay and I -as a straight guy- feel comfortable with that!". Playing a LGBT character is a simple means for Posey to get the most attention.
|by Anonymous||reply 523||03/22/2019|
OMG, you bitches will never guess what I just figured out! Casey Deidrick from Day's Of Our Lives fame is in Episode 7. He now has mucho facial hair and he's bulked up since his DOOL's days.
He plays a shirtless bartender at a sex party. His scene is very short... but there is also a scene with a guy fucking a chick in a kitchen. You mostly see his naked backside as he's pumping, but it's obvious he has facial hair. His back and arm tattoos also match up to Casey's.
|by Anonymous||reply 524||03/22/2019|
Actors using roles to promote themselves? Let me clutch my pearls!
Anyway. starz are releasing the entirety of season 1 on their online platform tonight so you can all comb through it for any traces of homophobia
|by Anonymous||reply 525||03/22/2019|
R524 Casey was on Teen Wolf for about 5 seconds. And he's going to be on some new CW show called In The Dark (doesn't look too bad).
|by Anonymous||reply 526||03/22/2019|
|by Anonymous||reply 527||03/22/2019|
[quote] Actors using roles to promote themselves? Let me clutch my pearls!
If this is what you got from the whole discussion you missed the whole point of the topic by a mile. But I guess it's useless to explain it to you again because you're not even trying to understand.
|by Anonymous||reply 528||03/22/2019|
I can't believe Starz just released the entire damn season.
|by Anonymous||reply 529||03/22/2019|
R529 Ratings were so bad that they didn't even show up on the ratings charts anymore. I have no idea why they renewed the show for a second season.
|by Anonymous||reply 530||03/22/2019|
R528 or they don't care......
|by Anonymous||reply 531||03/22/2019|
R519 never said he was, I was just making a comparison.
|by Anonymous||reply 532||03/22/2019|
I read there will be no male nudity for the rest of the season. I’m glad I didn’t bother. A shame Stars is the network that gave us Spartacus.
|by Anonymous||reply 533||03/22/2019|
No more nudity? Thats all this show had going for it. Bye!
|by Anonymous||reply 534||03/22/2019|
[Quote]. I have no idea why they renewed the show for a second season
There has been no official announcement of a renewal.
|by Anonymous||reply 535||03/22/2019|
[quote]There has been no official announcement of a renewal.
Multiple outlets already confirmed that it was picked up.
|by Anonymous||reply 536||03/22/2019|
R533 are you sure? I saw some previews of Avan in bed with other dudes. Where did you read that?
|by Anonymous||reply 537||03/22/2019|
There's more nudity after episode 4.
|by Anonymous||reply 538||03/22/2019|
And zero of those sources are official r536. There has been nothing from Starz or the people involved.
|by Anonymous||reply 539||03/22/2019|
Someone from a male movie nuditysite (dreamcap) claimed to have seen the remaining episodes and said there was no male nudity.
|by Anonymous||reply 540||03/22/2019|
EVERYTHING is exploitative, give me a break.
|by Anonymous||reply 541||03/22/2019|
There is 0 percent chance there isn't more male skin. We have someone with an agenda here to destroy the show and its success.
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|by Anonymous||reply 543||03/22/2019|
Just finished all 10 episodes. There is more nudity - lots of male butt. The show isn't that great though. People come and go on a whim. Just overall messiness.
|by Anonymous||reply 544||03/22/2019|
R524 Here. I finished binge watching the rest of the episodes early this morning and I can't say I wasn't disappointed and felt cheated.
*Spoilers* I guess the information on IMDB isn't always right afterall. Tyler Posey was listed as performing in all 10 episodes. I would say 5 at most and most of his appearances are in Ulysses' dreams or when Ulysses thinks he sees him. If you told me he was in more than 10 minutes the whole season, I would be shocked.
|by Anonymous||reply 545||03/22/2019|
Araki sure has some fucked up views on women sexuality if, as one suspects, Uly is based on his own experiences. Episode 5 ends with the girl taking Uly's straight virginity (she is an expert it seems with such profound statements like "most gay guys are traumatized by the vag") and declaring that he loves it because he can "control another persons pleasure" (clits apparently rob women of all sexual agency).
|by Anonymous||reply 546||03/22/2019|
Overall disappointing, but BM is truly transcendent and I would drink his bath water.
|by Anonymous||reply 547||03/22/2019|
God Araki is a self-loathing cunt - the beginning of episode 6 where Uly waxes poetic about the joys of the vagina and then makes the statement that heterosexual sex is the most natural because the vagina is designed (by whom god - evolution doesn't work that way) specifically for the cock. This is supposed to be progressive? Ugh
|by Anonymous||reply 548||03/22/2019|
Yes, it is progressive; or at least avant-garde. Gay is so boring and pedestrian to these narcissistic professional queers. It’s just all hoeseshit and emperors new clothes type crap with these pretentious wanks
|by Anonymous||reply 549||03/22/2019|
Finished binge watching the season, overall a bit disappointing. I don’t care about it not being “full-on” gay like some people seemed to expect, doesn’t really matter to me. It does veer off into Skinemax territory though. Just too much sex at the expense of plot and story. The poster above is correct, Tyler Pusey really isn’t even in the series, other than that one episode. Mildly diverting, but nothing great, although Beau Mirchoff is spectacular looking, so there’s that going for it.
|by Anonymous||reply 550||03/23/2019|
You wish I was exaggerating, but this is 100% the worst show I have seen.
This is like Here and Now on HBO, but more porny and with waaayyy lesser substance. Like what the above poster said, I was surprised it was renewed. It seems unpopular and even on fan forums, they're not necessarily being applauded and the complimentary comments are very minimal (and shallow).
|by Anonymous||reply 551||03/23/2019|
R551 what fan forums?
And does anyone know how the show is doing rating wise?
|by Anonymous||reply 552||03/23/2019|
[quote] The poster above is correct, Tyler Posey really isn’t even in the series, other than that one episode
Is that true? Posey has less than 10 minutes screentime in the whole show but from the interviews and promo he did one would think his character was nearly as important as the main character lol. I guess people were right about him just using the LGBT topic to get the most attention possible. Again.
|by Anonymous||reply 553||03/23/2019|
Episode four opens with Ford jerking off. I want to bury my face in Beau's pits.
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|by Anonymous||reply 556||03/23/2019|
tyler posey definitely is just a guest role in this show but i dont agree with the other poster stating that posey is trying to get lgbt attention
i mean it pretty obvious to me why he, ford, and avan were the focal points for the promo (though i wouldnt say he had the most press at all) they have all had leaks and this show was heavily promoted as being super sexual and fluid. they got to be aware that was hyping fans of them
and while he is not even a c list actor Tyler has the most social media followers by a large degree compared to the regular cast members, makes sense they want to pimp out one of the more recognizable names of the cast
|by Anonymous||reply 557||03/23/2019|
I just binged the final episodes. If I didn't find Beau extremely hot, I wouldn't have bothered. The show makes no sense whatsoever. total waste of time.
|by Anonymous||reply 558||03/23/2019|
I don’t know why he is so shady to current gay/ queer film makers. And dismissive of bohemian rhapsody; when it was directed by a fellow bi man
|by Anonymous||reply 559||03/23/2019|
R554 Bet there's a thick nest down south too.
|by Anonymous||reply 560||03/23/2019|
It took me the final episode to realize that the neighbor Severin masturbates with is played by Johnathon Schaech.
I enjoyed the series. The characters are sweet and unpretentious, even when they're being pretentious like Jethro. The music was outstanding. I can't believe there's no resolution to the alien arc.
|by Anonymous||reply 561||03/23/2019|
And R561 the alien book author/expert was Henry Rollins, another nice cameo.
|by Anonymous||reply 562||03/23/2019|
R561 What did you enjoy about the series? Genuinely curious.
|by Anonymous||reply 563||03/23/2019|
r559 he wishes he can be as successful as them. Miss Arakis is a jealous bitch
|by Anonymous||reply 564||03/23/2019|
r561 that has to be sarcasm
|by Anonymous||reply 565||03/23/2019|
Just watched the whole season and it was a major disappointment. I had a feeling it was going to be bad by the pilot but figured that pilots are usually bad and represent the whole show. It only got worse. The worse episode for me was I think 6 when Ulysses and Carly were talking about the wanders of pussy and how more natural it was. To say I was shocked when I heard that would be an understatement especially coming from a creator who identifies as mostly gay. But he’s always pushing fluidity so I should have figured. One the topic of fluidity the main cast are fluid except the one straight man. There’s even a scene where he gets to reaffirm his straightness. So why can a “gay” guy be fluid but not a straight guy? None of the fluidity shit was pushed on any of the straight man. And why are the two gay guys predators?
|by Anonymous||reply 566||03/24/2019|
Well that's just beyond disappointing, R566. All valid questions too. Shame.
|by Anonymous||reply 567||03/24/2019|
Since IMDB list Tyler Posey as being in all 10 episodes, maybe he shot more scenes, but Araki didn't use them. The straight characters had way more storyline. What if Starz told Araki to cut most of the gay storyline to make it more palatable for straight people?
In episode 10, Ulysses tells his boyfriend his relationship with Gabriel was hot/cold melodrama. In episode 7 Carly ask Ulysses "How are you gonna fuck it up this time" referring to his new relationship with Isaac and he says something about Gabriel disappearing every 5 seconds. Ulysses and Gabriel only had one interaction, and then Gabriel ghosted him, so it doesn't make sense for him to say that..
It's also odd IMDB doesn't credit James Duval or Jonathan Schaech as being on the show. Both were in at least 3 episodes each. Maybe Araki had to shoot more scenes to account for the missing scenes with Gabriel.
|by Anonymous||reply 568||03/24/2019|
IMDB is as reliable as wikipedia. Anyone can edit
|by Anonymous||reply 569||03/24/2019|
It was most likley Posey fans who just put him in into every episode long before the episodes even aired. I very much doubt that Posey shot more scenes and that they were cut. I still have to laugh when I remember that Posey described the show as tasteful in an interview. This show is a lot, but tasteful is surely not a word I would describe it with.
|by Anonymous||reply 570||03/24/2019|
They look like boyfriends who share a love of hard drugs and tats.
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|by Anonymous||reply 572||03/24/2019|
interesting to see how they cover tattoos, i know s lot of people thought they would harm his ability to get roles, but it seems he has chosen roles that embrace them or its not a hard thing to cover up
according to one of the artists he tagged it only took 24 minutes (and that included some face make up too)
|by Anonymous||reply 573||03/24/2019|
Can't believe I actually watched all ten episodes of this crap. What utter horseshit and that last episode is maybe the worst-written piece of television I have ever seen. "We were chaos - hot & cold melodrama." Um, what the what now? We literally saw Posey in the first episode only and then you ghosted his ass for some reason and dreamt about him. Or have I missed an episode or two? We also saw maybe five minutes of them making that web series and suddenly it's a huge success?
Do not get me started on lecturing the audience about gay guys getting a hankering for pussy occasionally, Araki railing against the concept of verbal consent like it's some fascist invention, trying to pass off watersports as a shocking kink, or playing the alien anal rape at the end like a joke. How did this get renewed?
Things I enjoyed - Beau's bod, RJ Mitte (Walter Jr. from Breaking Bad is a hottie now!), one clever joke that I've already forgotten, some of the lighting, and Jogia's hairy pits and just his body in general. Also his performance is pretty great. Aside from that, this is an awful, awful series.
|by Anonymous||reply 574||03/24/2019|
Tyler on top
|by Anonymous||reply 575||03/24/2019|
R575 lol the thrusts are out of synch. Terrible acting
|by Anonymous||reply 576||03/24/2019|
R573 I don't think Jeff Davis was too thrilled when Posey added more tattoos during Teen Wolf. I thought it might make getting other roles a bit more difficult to get in the future.
R575 God bless you!
|by Anonymous||reply 577||03/24/2019|
I just finished watching the entire series and found Jogia's character very likable and engaging. Of course, it helps that the actor is so easy on the eyes.
|by Anonymous||reply 578||03/25/2019|
R578 I can't believe he cut that gorgeous hair
|by Anonymous||reply 579||03/25/2019|
[quote] I can't believe he cut that gorgeous hair
Avan's gorgeous hair will grow back, that's more than I can say about his friend Riz Ahmed, he's balding!
|by Anonymous||reply 580||03/25/2019|
Did anyone else feel weird where they kept telling us that RJ’s character had Cerial Palsy? I feel like if going it going to get mentioned then it should have been by him.
|by Anonymous||reply 581||03/25/2019|
HOW AND WHERE DID YOU WATCH THE WHOLE SEASON? Some of us don't have cable and can't seem to get it...
|by Anonymous||reply 582||03/25/2019|
Do the Starz App (or Starz channel on Amazon if you already have Prime). They offer a free 7 day trial.
Binge the show, cancel before 7 days. It is actually quite easy to see the show legally and for free.
|by Anonymous||reply 583||03/25/2019|
I just finished the season, I liked it fine enough and hope the renewal rumors are accurate.
[quote] One the topic of fluidity the main cast are fluid except the one straight man. There’s even a scene where he gets to reaffirm his straightness. So why can a “gay” guy be fluid but not a straight guy? None of the fluidity shit was pushed on any of the straight man.
This bugged me as well. The "gay" character and "straight" girl characters are shown as being of course humans can be sexually fluid, but with our straight male character it is reinforced that well he is straight and you can't expect a straight guy to ever be not straight. It just sticks out like a sore thumb given the vibe of the show.
[quote]I enjoyed the series. The characters are sweet and unpretentious, even when they're being pretentious like Jethro.
I agree that Uly, Carly, Ford and Jethro were all watchable characters that I started getting invested in. Severine continued to be an awful part of the main cast and that actress should have no gotten that role.
I will say I thought Avan Jogia and Jacob Artist had a very easy believable chemistry in their scenes, enough so that Jacob Artist actually made me wonder about his sexuality because he seemed very comfortable in the role. Frankly they were more believable than Avan Jogia and Tyler Posey were, personally I felt like I was watching actors try to be gay there.
|by Anonymous||reply 584||03/25/2019|
[quote]Did anyone else feel weird where they kept telling us that RJ’s character had Cerial Palsy? I feel like if going it going to get mentioned then it should have been by him.
I thought that was handled very naturally. They meet him and discuss it amongst themselves afterwards, that's generally how those things work, people don't want to confront the person about it. And it was treated as a minor detail about the character, which was nice.
|by Anonymous||reply 585||03/25/2019|
Araki likes his straight boys straight - he fetishizes them...His other male characters have been bisexual or ambiguous - Gay guys have been mostly absent from his work so take from that what you will...
|by Anonymous||reply 586||03/25/2019|
[Quote] Araki likes his straight boys straight - he fetishizes them
Then he'd fit right in with fandoms/shippers on tumblr.
|by Anonymous||reply 587||03/25/2019|
Jacob Artist was HAF in his Glee days but looks weird and overly aged (he's only 26) in this. His hair especially looks like shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 588||03/26/2019|
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|by Anonymous||reply 590||03/26/2019|
R590 the hair ain't helping.
|by Anonymous||reply 591||03/26/2019|
If anyone here is going to get the Starz 7-day free trial, I suggest you bingewatch American Gods or even Spartacus instead. Spartacus has lots of sex and nudity but at least it has a substance to it. This show does not, utter waste of time, if you ask me.
|by Anonymous||reply 592||03/26/2019|
R592 I already started American gods.
|by Anonymous||reply 593||03/26/2019|
[Quote] Spartacus has lots of sex and nudity but at least it has a substance to it.
Indeed it does.
|by Anonymous||reply 594||03/26/2019|
[quote]I will say I thought Avan Jogia and Jacob Artist had a very easy believable chemistry in their scenes, enough so that Jacob Artist actually made me wonder about his sexuality because he seemed very comfortable in the role.
Wait, so Jacob Artist isn't gay either? Are there [italic]any[/italic] fucking gay actors in this show at all?! Am I the only one who finds it beyond the pale that only straight guys got employment opportunities in a show that was marketed as ostensibly gay/queer? Araki is a self-hating homo if I ever saw one.
Aside from that kiss between Beau and Avan in the first episode, every other kiss between two guys was that familiar closed kiss you see straight actors do when they're playing gay roles. Blech.
|by Anonymous||reply 595||03/26/2019|
Tyler Posey lied and said he'd be naked in it
|by Anonymous||reply 596||03/26/2019|
R595 it would be progressives to hire some gay actors buyback progressive isn’t not really hetero worshipper Aracki’s thing.
|by Anonymous||reply 597||03/26/2019|
Why wasn’t Beau’s character fluid like the rest of them? It was weird how it was reinforced that he was straight.
|by Anonymous||reply 598||03/26/2019|
[Quote] Tyler Posey lied and said he'd be naked in it
It's not like he was part of the Fappening......
|by Anonymous||reply 599||03/26/2019|
[quote]Wait, so Jacob Artist isn't gay either?
Not openly at least.
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