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James Pope Hennessy and Queen Mary

Around 1959, James Pope Hennessy (1916-1974) was hired by the British Royal Family to write an authorized biography of Queen Mary who had died in 1953. It's an ok work, but I never enjoy any biography that is authorized. They're generally too sterile and written so as not to offend or tarnish. However, in preparing for his assignment, JPH undertook interviews throughout Europe and kept copious notes.

Hugo Vickers has published these notes in the 2018 book "The Quest For Queen Mary." The notes are unvarnished; they contain summaries of what JPH was told -- warts and all. The Duke and Duchess of Windsor were brutal, QM's niece, the Duchess of Beaufort, was hysterical. There are interviews with the then Duke of Gloucester, the Russian Grand Duchess Xenia Alexandrovna (sister of Tsar Nicolas), the King and Queen of Sweden, the Duchess of Devonshire, lots of German royals, the very gay Spanish Duke who went by the name of Pepe Mamblas, etc. A very fun read that gives a better portrait of the old Queen. It's on Amazon if interested.

As to JPH, he had a tragic end. In 1974 he was murdered by three "rent boys" from Piccadilly.

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by Anonymousreply 15January 22, 2019 4:40 PM

Can you tell us more of what the other royals and aristos say in "The Quest for Queen Mary," OP? It sounds promising, but you've told us almost no details.

by Anonymousreply 1January 16, 2019 4:47 AM

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by Anonymousreply 2January 16, 2019 5:06 AM

I've just ordered this. I've always been fascinated by Queen Mary for some reason and own James Pope Hennessy's original biography on her.

by Anonymousreply 3January 16, 2019 5:13 AM

This is just conspiracy nonsense. A bottom in his late 50s being murdered by a rent boy is a story as old as the hills.

by Anonymousreply 4January 16, 2019 5:30 AM

Thanks for recommending this, OP. It's quite enjoyable. I would add, though, that it's really only on interest to complete royal watchers who know more or less who everyone is in the tangled and massive Windsor and Mountbatten family trees; otherwise you'd have a hell of a time knowing who people are and how they're related to one another.

One of the best things about the book is that Pope-Hennessy has absolutely no illusions about who these people are, and he thinks basically they're all a different species than other human beings because of their bizarre upbringings. but he's also a deeply kind man who warms up to them very easily, and so they all pretty much dote on him and want to hang out with him until the wee hours of the morning. What's also interesting is that since he's pulling the whole biography together he actually knows more about Queen Mary than anyone he interviews, so that even her own son (the Duke of Gloucester) begs him to tell him secrets from his childhood he never understood, for example, was Mary's first fiancé, the elder brother of her eventual husband George V who died of influenza before they were married, syphilitic (the answer: almost certainly) and gay or bisexual (the answer: likely).

Somewhat surprisingly given all the negative focus the Duke of Windsor has received in recent decades, Pope-Hennessy likes him the best of the royals he meets, and finds him the kindest and the smartest, and laments the waste of his life. He likes the Duchess of Windsor, but finds her a Southern belle who is pretty shallow but with a marked talent for dressing and for interior decoration.

He also surprisingly does not care for the current queen, who commissions him to write the biography of her grandmother. he thinks she's much like her grandmother (intensely intellectually curious, and with a great memory), but too tightly wound. Later, however, he hears that the queen finds him "cold," which surprises and disappoints him because the rest of the family seems to really like him.

Interesting facts in the book:

*Queen Mary's famous deep reserve in public belied the fact that personally she was quite warm to most people... except notably her own children. They pretty much regard their father, George V, as a terrible father because he bullied them and yelled at them, and they think her "a oral coward" for never taking their sides even when they knew she knew their father was wrong.

*Queen Mary was much disliked by George V's mother, Queen Alexandra, and by his favorite sister the unmarried princess Victoria, who was George V's favorite. Part of this seems to stem from the fact that she was only born "Her Serene Highness" rather than royal (as Alexandra and her daughter were). But people in the family are still puzzled by this because Alexandra was supposed to be such a nice person otherwise.

*Another of George V's sisters, Louise the Duchess of Fife, was so stupid as to be considered practically retarded by the rest of the family.

*Royals in Europe in the Fifties seem to live in two ways: either they indulge themselves in the finest food and luxury imaginable (as with the Windsors and Prince Axel of Denmark), or they deny themselves good food and even decent indoor heating so as to mortify themselves and save money even when don't need to do so (as with Mary and the current queen).

by Anonymousreply 5January 21, 2019 6:35 PM

More:

*No one in the royal family in the Fifties liked Prince Philip very much other than the queen herself. Queen Mary much disliked her granddaughter Princess Margaret. Her favorite among her children was actually the Duke of Windsor, but he broke her heart by abdicating. The child most terrified of her was her daughter Princess Mary (who also became the Princess Royal), who thought she would be expected to live with her parents her entire life like her aunt Princess Victoria did with her grandparents, and so married somewhat in desperation. (We never hear of her marriage to the Earl of Harewood is a happy one.)

*Royals expect non-royal people to always know what they're thinking in conversation, and so they bring up topics unexpectedly and ramble quite a bit. They refer to themselves in the third person (The Duke of Gloucester to Pope-Hennessy, speaking of himself: "It's quite chilly this morning, and the Duke won't like this a bit")

*The exceptions to the rule and the second and third most likeable people in the whole book are Alice, the Duchess of Gloucester, and Princess Alice, the Countess of Athlone, the sister-in-law of Queen Mary (and thus the Gloucesters' aunt, and someone who spends a lot of time with them). They are genuinely nice and down-to-earth people.

*The most likeable person in the whole book and the funniest is Mary, Duchess of Beaufort, who is a Mountbatten/Battenberg niece of Queen Mary. During WWII the Queen and her entourage take over her niece's manor home, Badminton House, to be away from the Blitz, and the Duchess and her husband (a hunting enthusiast who is called "Master" by everyone--even his wife!--because he was Master of the Horse for so long) are basically banished for the duration of the war to much less nice rooms in their own house. The Duchess has very funny stories to tell about her stuffy and wacky her aunt was, and twice insists that the Mountbattens have a strain of madness that shows up in Queen Mary's father, in Queen mary, in the Duke of Windsor... and in herself! ("I'm mad, too!" she keeps insisting, even though she seems hilariously sane.) There's a great story the first time the air sirens sound at Badminton House in the middle of the night and the Duchess goes in her nightgown to the bomb shelter only to find Queen Mary has preceded her fully dressed in a gown and hat, with boxes of her jewels and her fully dressed maids next to her, and who stares at her because she's not fully dressed herself. (After this the Duchess decides it's not worth it to go to the shelters when the sirens sound.)

by Anonymousreply 6January 21, 2019 6:45 PM

*that should be "a moral coward" at r5, not "a oral coward"!

by Anonymousreply 7January 21, 2019 6:46 PM

Queen Mary would have a DLer, for sure:

[quote]Passing one of her babies in its cot, she observed: ‘I wonder what it’s thinking? Nothing at all, of course, stupid little thing.’

by Anonymousreply 8January 21, 2019 6:50 PM

I read it, and I thought the quality of the individual chapters really varied. I found the Duke of Gloucester chapter the most interesting because he was such a cliche of an upper-class twit. The Duke of Windsor chapter made me feel rather sorry for him and the Duchess, which isn't a reaction I ever thought I would have.

by Anonymousreply 9January 21, 2019 6:53 PM

She sounded like a gem of a woman. I found this piece because I recalled that people reportedly would hide their good china when she came to visit, lest the porcelain leave with her.

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by Anonymousreply 10January 21, 2019 7:09 PM

Queen Mary was a thief. She was visit friends and if she saw some object d'art she admired, she would simply take it home with her, leaving the poor owners rather flustered.

by Anonymousreply 11January 21, 2019 7:15 PM

OP here. I have another book to recommend in this same vein. Kenneth Rose's "Who's In, Who's Out." This consists of the journal entries of Kenneth Rose from 1944 to 1979. Rose was a columnist for the Sunday Telegraph, a huge social climber, a total snob, and a damn good writer. He died in 2014. He appears to have known everybody, from the entire Royal family to Emperor Hirohito to LBJ. His observations are biting and insightful. One entry made me sad. He wrote of JFK's inauguration that the Americans did this sort of thing perfectly with both a sense of practicality and dignity. Made me sad because that sense of dignity and gravitas has now been destroyed by one man.

While JPH wrote the biography of Queen Mary, Kenneth Rose wrote the biography of her husband King George V.

I found this an even more fun and juicy read that The Quest For Queen Mary. It deals now only with society figures, but also politicos and key events of the age.

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by Anonymousreply 12January 22, 2019 3:49 AM

What i liked about "The Quest for Queen Mary" was that the author came across as a nice person.

Too often when you read these books that are diaries of artists, celebrities and hangers-on who knew everyone who was anyone, they're themselves terrible snobs and social climbers and are pretty sour people (for example, Kenneth Tynan, Cecil Beaton, Richard Burton, Andy Warhol). But James Pope-Hennessy wasn't really that much of a snob: he was asked to do the biography basically out of nowhere, and only agreed to do it because his brother said he would get such a rare opportunity to observe these weird people.

by Anonymousreply 13January 22, 2019 4:35 AM

May was a kleptomaniac. She stole all my bling.

by Anonymousreply 14January 22, 2019 5:23 AM

I forgot to add one story from Kenneth Rose. An aristo (forget the name) invited Queen Mary to lunch at her mansion. Queen Mary cast her eyes on a small antique occasional table the hostess owned and prized. She kept commenting how much she loved the table but the lady, knowing that Queen Mary meant to have her gift it to her, was determined not to succumb. When the luncheon was finally at an end, the hostess walked the Queen to her car. Just before she got in, Queen Mary turned around and said "I just have to go back and say goodbye to that sweet little table." She accompanied back indoors and the Queen said goodbye to the table and the lady remained stoic. Queen Mary then left in a huff. The lady told Rose she was so proud of herself.

by Anonymousreply 15January 22, 2019 4:40 PM
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