I love to hate Ina Garten

[quote] I could go on but you get the jist.

Oh, [italic]dear.[/italic]

Yikes R1 I’m embarrassed.....I always pride myself on my perfect grammar and spelling abilities. I have an English degree for fuck sakes. Sorry.

OP is Jeffrey after a few drinks.

OP, I want Ina's life. Wealthy, a husband that is rarely home and surrounded by gay men.

You want a husband that’s rarely home R4?

You’re right R3....and just so you know, Ina’s my beard. Call me.

Gaaaaaaaaas

The butch blond lesbian with spiky hair in denim overalls who would stop by to mow her lawn...

Oh yeah R8–her gardener. I’m pretty sure she’s not interested in Ina’s musty old twat though.

Her gay friends are the gurliest gurls who ever gurled.

She's fat, though, and that's good. I never trust a thin chef.

I kind of like her, I wish I had her house.

I hate it when she says “good” olive oil, vanilla, etc.

R5 has never been in an ltr/marriage or lived with a boyfriend/partner.

Yes, hunty. After the honeymoon phase wears off, living with someone 24/7 can get stale and the sex starts to dwindle. Being apart a lot keeps things fresh.

Ask anyone who has been married a long time--gay or straight. The key to a happy marriage is having a lot of apart time.

I bet you're one of those clingy mofos who gets dumped pretty quickly.

Back to topic, I love Ina. Pretentious and fat, yes. But her recipes are almost always good. You can't say that about most Food Network hosts.

I love her! I don't find her pretentious and she's absolutely right when she advises to use the "good" ingredient (BTW "good" doesn't automatically mean most expensive). Her recipes are almost always very, very good.

I've found most of her recipes to be excellent, although Ina uses more salt than I prefer. Her Spinach Gratin has been part of my holiday repertoire for years now.

Her insistence on the "good"thing is annoying though. Bitch, we know already. I sometimes watch her show on Youtube at night. Helps lull me into sleep.

[quote]Her gay friends are the gurliest gurls who ever gurled.

As someone who loves it when DLers use the word "gurl" - this really is my red letter day.

Hate Ina Garten? No.

The rest of the Food Network? Now that's hateworthy. I wish Ina would move to Create TV (or did Martha have "No Ina, ever, bitches!" written into her PBS contract? That's where Ina belongs now.

Yeah, the thing is she repeats the use of "good" ingredients because she knows she's dealing with a bunch of stupid morons who will use whatever cheap stuff they've had in the pantry for years and then wonder why the food ends up tasting like shit.

I like her despite that though because she is the only Food Personality who I've come across who has consistently good recipes. Nothing of hers I've ever tried has ever not been good.

And Leave Ina's shents ALONE!!!

[quote]Yeah, the thing is she repeats the use of "good" ingredients because she knows she's dealing with a bunch of stupid morons who will use whatever cheap stuff they've had in the pantry for years and then wonder why the food ends up tasting like shit.

I got in such a fight with one of these cheapskates. I was making dinner at her house, and had to fight her to get her to replace her rancid olive oil before I ruined $30 or $40 worth of shrimp. I mean, it was really a fight.

Uh. Women can’t cook. Except Ina, of course, who is really a Gay Man in a (monstrously fat) woman’s body.

I don’t give a fuck how good her cooking is, her pussy stinks!

I like her. She gets in there and gets cooking; not a priss pot delicate flower. Her recipes are usually good and she's fun to watch because it's like how I'd like to cook if I had no budget restraints.

I love Ina so much. In fact, I only go to hen houses in the Hamptons for my XXXXL eggs.

I felt sorry for Jeffrey

I like her and agree, her recipes are consistently good (compared to Martha Stewart, I've never been impressed with anything I've made following a MS recipe).

I was home recuperating from an accident for several weeks and watched her as much as possible. She was oddly comforting to me. I totally understood why that little Make A Wish kid wanted to meet her, and I was very disappointed in her reaction. But hey, we're all human and have our limits, I don't know why she wouldn't meet with him. It's none of my business, but I don't hold her in very high esteem anymore.

Ina is a legend. Her recipes are fantastic and her cocktail recipes hit the spot. She is pretty and cuddly and has a lovely home and Husband plus she is surrounded by Gay friends who love her....How rare is that? So she must be doing something right.

R21 Ina is hardly "monstrously fat". She isn't even 1/4 of a Chrissy.

Before all that sweetened cream...

Jesus, they were both super adorable back in the day.

Jeffrey has "Cute Rich Jew" written all over him in that snap. Nice catch!

Ina looks a little like fellow plump Jewess Mindy Cohn.

[quote]I like her despite that though because she is the only Food Personality who I've come across who has consistently good recipes.

Well fuck you very much!

R2 that's: fuck's sake

I like Ina. The Make-A-Wish Foundation thing was typical media pouncing on something that was really nothing. Ina didn't know about the request. Probably some PA rejected it. She said she didn't know about it and when she found out, she invited the kid to come meet her. By that time, though, the damage was done.

I miss her shows, but I suspect the fact that there aren't many on anymore (same with Giada) is that they've pretty much cooked everything they know. What else are they going to do? They're not chefs, although Ina owned a shop and was a caterer. They're both basically way above average home cooks. I'd watch either Ina or Giada over Ree Drummond and her recipes any day of the week.

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I love the Janet from Threes Company hairdo in the pic at R29.

They were so fucking cute, I can't get past it. Jeffery didn't ping nearly as much back then.

I wonder if it will come out that Ina was a spy, similar to Julia. I didn't know that Julia helped create shark repellent though:

R1 is only here to correct typos. (I'm guessing she's SINGLE.) That's not really joining the discussion, is it?

Obviously she's very pro-gay rights and while her recipes aren't always easy and she insists on only the finest EVERYTHING, she's still pretty cool. She's also a pilot - impressive.

eh, r35, she turned the kid down twice. Then when it became public she tried to make it right and invited the kid to come cook with her but he declined. So maybe she didn't know about the request either time, but if that was me, and some kid's dying wish was to meet me, I'd show up at his house with a fucking marching band and surprise him.

She turned the kid down TWICE? OK, that is new to me. Not good, Ina. What, worried the kid was contagious or something?

Side bar: When I saw those two come out for the photo op, and Angie had her arms behind her back, my first thought was that they were fucking. I know, who cares...

R26 - I was appalled at that incident. What would it have taken for her to spend 1/2 an hour with the kid. It came across as heartless and kind of turned me against watching her. She does have good recipes though....

She has a really small staff - hard to believe she didn't know about the request.

R26 - we are convinced Martha purposely leaves out an ingredient - happened too many times not for it to be a real thing - and it was a part of a dialogue in the Cybill Shephard movie.

From her wiki:

In an interview with former New York Times restaurant critic Frank Bruni, she was asked what she would serve the 45th President, Donald Trump; she replied, "A subpoena."

Clumsy, R26. "I love her so much, so much love, I don't know why she was a cruel cunt bitch cow to that dying baby but I'm sure she had her reasons, also remember I love her and this is totally not criticism or anything."

That’s pretty fucked up.

The whole Make-A-Wish thing is that the wisher DOESN’T HAVE MUCH TIME LEFT!

The fact that the kid was still hanging on and asked a SECOND time?! If I was Ina I’d have been mortified to hear he was still interested and jumped on the chance to make it right.

[quote]The Make-A-Wish Foundation thing was typical media pouncing on something that was really nothing. Ina didn't know about the request. Probably some PA rejected it. She said she didn't know about it and when she found out, she invited the kid to come meet her. By that time, though, the damage was done.

Anyone who thinks she said no just because she's a cruel bitch doesn't understand how PR works. Just for the sake of PR, she would have done SOMETHING to avoid bad press, regardless of how she felt about little kids.

The first no was from one of her assistants who said she was on a busy tour schedule. The second no was also from an assistant, who is the one who said the "she can't grant every request."

I'm sure heads rolled after that.

The boy wasn't terminal, hysterical queen at R49.

[quote]Make-a-Wish works with children with life-threatening illnesses, but thankfully, many of its wish recipients go on to lead healthy lives. And Enzo's blog clearly describes him as in remission. "Enzo is NOT dying or terminal, he IS very sick but he is VERY MUCH alive and the most ALIVE person I have EVER known!" his mother and family write. "He has two beautiful, sensitive, loving sisters who have been very private through out his treatments and I feel terrible that they had to see that OVER and OVER again. Can you imagine how that makes them feel?"

I just hate that snooty, pretentious bitch.

She looks like Karen Pence at r51

[quote] I miss her shows, but I suspect the fact that there aren't many on anymore (same with Giada) is that they've pretty much cooked everything they know. What else are they going to do? They're not chefs, although Ina owned a shop and was a caterer. They're both basically way above average home cooks. I'd watch either Ina or Giada over Ree Drummond and her recipes any day of the week.

Giada is not an above average home cook. That distinction belongs to Ree Drummond, Rachel Ray and the constant parade of WHET celebrities like Valerie Bertinelli, Trisha Yearwood and Martina McBride. Giada was trained at the Le Cordon Blue and is talented enough to have competed on Iron Chef. I've always thought that the Penelope Cruz film, "Girl on Top," was the inspiration for Giada's show.

Yes, cunt at R51, I’m sure Ina had ALL the pertinent information as to the boy’s non-terminal status when declining his wish not once, but twice.

🙄

Ina didn't get to where she is today by being so stupid as to turn down a Make-A-Wish request, R55. Not that I'd expect someone like you, with your emoji-filled, over-punctuated shrieking, would ever realize that on your own.

my mom likes her a lot and misses her show on whatev station it was on - now she's moved on to the less appealing Giada person

Ina is beautiful!

does Jeffrey hang out at the Town House bar in NYC?

R59 no, normally he keeps his pants 👖 zipped up as to not let ‘it’ hang out.

I used to like her, but the more that I watched her, the more she came off as elitist.

Her show is still on the air. Plenty of re-runs but that's not a bad thing. (They are the GOOD reruns) I don't understand why on this thread and other Ina threads people sound like she's vanished from the airwaves.

Look up her recipe for Shrimp Orzo. My god. You will forgive her for anything once you try it.

I’ve made that and it is delicious 🤤.

If I’m recalling the recipe correctly, there’s a smidge too much lemon.

A true smidge too much r64? Or are you one of those people who think using two cloves of garlic *gasp* is going wild? Serious question so I can get a feel for your tastebuds.

SHeesh, defensive much, R65?

I ADD extra garlic to all the recipes that call for it. I like my food heavily seasoned but lemon can be too much in certain cases. Sometimes all you taste is the lemon, which can take away from the shrimp taste.

I didn't mean to be defensive at all r66. I see some recipes posted on here and it will call for things like 1/4 teaspoon of cumin or some such nonsense, so just getting a feel for what tastebud camp you are in, because I really want to try making that dish. It is true that too much lemon can kill off the other flavors.

Use good orzo.

No, OP. I like her show, and when it's on I like to pretend that I'm a wealthy Hamptons semi-retiree who has nothing more stressful on my agenda than doing the flowers and picking out a cheese board.

You, I dislike.

Why does everyone miss her? She has a new episode show (Cooking Like a Pro, I think) on FN on Sundays, I think at 12:30.

R68 - I hope it is "really good" orzo

No, I like her just fine. I like her food, and don’t find it pretentious to insist upon good vanilla or olive oil. I’ll use cheaper ingredients if it won’t make a difference, but sometimes it does. I’ll use the good eggs if I’m having them over easy, but use cheaper ones in a cookie recipe. Stuff like that.

Her food is usually simple and basic. Like me.

[quote]Her gay friends are the gurliest gurls who ever gurled.

I think I've only ever seen one. Gotta a link or two? I'd like to meet them.

R71 homemade is best. Be sure to spend at least 500 on the orzo alone. It’s got to be ‘good quality’ orzo.

If her shrimp recipe calls for a smidge too much lemon, USE A SMIDGE LESS LEMON, dingbat.

She has a mole on her taint.

why aren't you bastards posting lovely links and things?

Cumin is an especially favorite of mine! Love it! I do add extra of any spice that a recipe calls for.

If you make this once, you'll never make potato salad any other way.

I'd honestly be a little afraid to eat in front of her. Or god forbid make something for her to eat lol.

R13 just because your partner can’t stand being around you doesn’t mean most couples like being apart. Some people want a partner to experience life with, and yes everyday life as well.

You stupid tool.

Didn't she also screw over the people who bought her catering business?

I'm guessing they viewed themselves as the Ali McGraw and Art Garfunkel of their set, r36.

Never heard that, R82. In fact, I thought she sold to her employees.

Giada is a slut who used to Mckenzie Phillips her own dad.

She's gross.

Rachael Ray and Mario Batali beat Giada De Laurentiis and Bobby Flay in Iron Chef.

Ina has ASMR voice. Like Bob Ross or Maria of gentlewhispering. People watch her because she’s very soothing.

I use her roast duck recipe whenever I roast a whole duck, which is about once a year. It's a no-fail recipe, and delicious.

[quote]I miss her shows, but I suspect the fact that there aren't many on anymore (same with Giada) is that they've pretty much cooked everything they know. What else are they going to do? They're not chefs,

Giada is actually a chef.

Most of her recipes I've tried work very well, unlike most other celeb chefs. But I disagree with "how easy is that?' It's not always that easy. I'm not a cook. Especially if you don't have the space for a stand mixer or other gadgets, things take more time. Have learned many general cooking techniques from her.

As far using "good" olive oil and vanilla, come on. It's only going to cost you a few bucks more. Schilling's vanilla is made in a chemistry lab. The stuff from Madagascar is wonderful and makes a huge difference. There's a whole literature about quality olive oil and the scam industry. She can't name brands, but Bertoli and Star are a scam, while California Olive Ranch is the real thing. Again, a few bucks more per bottle. As for cooking with wine, use wine that you would like to drink -- not cheap rot gut.

What does piss me off is when she buys $300 worth of artisan cheese for a platter or a $200 flower bouquet to feed chicken to her perfect, Fire Island gay friends. But I like that she likes us, and I think her point is to have something pleasant to look at on the table.

The Leukemia kid incident I can't forget. She and her schedulers/publicists/editors really fucked that one up.

Yeah, Jeffrey is a Queen. So what.

"What does piss me off is when she buys $300 worth of artisan cheese for a platter or a $200 flower bouquet to feed chicken to her perfect, Fire Island gay friends."

Oh come on, wouldn't you if you could afford to? I would!

What I like about Ina is that she has a genuine excitement and love for what she does and entertaining. A lot of the other food people you see do this you can tell they're doing it solely for the show. You know Ina would be assembling a morning basket with fresh OJ, Yogurt, homemade bread and jams to give to some neighbor even if she didn't have a show to do.

My husband is wayyyy hotter and richer and im not barren like her

As of December 2018, California Olive Ranch is no longer recommend as a source for olive oil.

They are replacing their 100% certified genuine Californian olive oil “Everyday” line with a foreign blend. They are renaming it the “Destination Series.” The guy who broke the global olive oil scandal in the NYT called them out and pulled his recommendation.

Their “Reserve” line will still be 100% California grown and thus should continue to receive the COOC certification. This line includes their Arbequina, Arbosanna, and Miller’s Blend.

Shady motherfuckers.

^ For r90.

R94. Thanks for putting that out there. I never would have known.

FAT face, FAT feet, FAT recipes

She's FAT!

I totally agree with R87 , only watched her show a few times but it’s calming, almost hypnotic. Comfort food for the ears.

I know Giada can cook but to hear her talk on her cookingshow is to much for me . Yakka. Yakka yakka it goes on and on and than her theeth they blind you and she is so thin . A real cook is not that thin . She’s more a celeb than a chef . Goodlooking I give her that .

It's kind of interesting how someone like Meryl Streep after decades of acting and being showered with praise has managed to totally avoid self-parody yet Ina who simply cooks on TV has managed to slip into it.

I love her for it, but we all know the jokes! It's like her act. There could be a drag queen called Barefoot Cuntessa who serves up GOOD sass with one teaspoon of kosher attitude and half a teaspoon of freshly ground black shade.

I understand the GOOD thing but I question the need to restate it in every list of ingredients. Why not mention in the preface of the book or in passing in the show. Her average recipe looks like this:

1 good chicken

1 tbsp good olive oil

1 tbsp good salt

1 tbsp good spice

1 tbsp good butter

1 tbsp good stock

Yeah, we get it. I love her, but increasingly I find her so elitist she's detached from reality. We know spending a hundred dollars on cheese at a specialty food store to artfully arrange tastes nice. But we didn't need to be told that. Sometimes I wonder how much Ina cooks at how. I suspect she often frequents expensive boutique fooderies in The Hamptons.

She assembles rather than cooks.

Hence the endless “good” exhortations.

Ima Farten.

I love the style of food she cooks, whatever you call it.

Her skin is crêpey despite her plump figure.

R106 Elitist minimalist east Hamptons rustic chic. I wonder if she has any original recipes. Oh, and she needs a blow out and can you imagine how stark and dreary her closet looks. Bitch needs some color, pattern and texture. Or does she think those things she wears covers her hugeness?

Does she smoke?

Only whitefish, r108.

I remember reading on here that someone said Ina doesn't think she's fat.

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Garten is pretentious but she clearly was inspired by Miss Connecticut-Via-Jersey herself, Martha Stewart. Even as a kid, I was annoyed by her pretense. “Only use the VERY BEST vanilla.” For every single recipe—use the very best flour, the very best salt, the very best fork. Admonish your handmaidens if the chicken eggs aren’t still warm from the chicken’s cloaca.

When you say The Best for everything is loses currency. You have to reserve it for items where the quality really makes a difference. You don't really have to use the best flour or tinned tomatoes, for instance.

How much point is there using expensive olive oil if its going to be cooked for hours; for a salad or dipping, yes; for a stew, mmm.

And vanilla extract has become so expensive recently that lobbing a teaspoon (or however much she uses IRL because it looks like more on camera) of best quality stuff into brownies as Ina does just makes my poor self cringe.

[quote]The Leukemia kid incident I can't forget.

DL is wall-to-wall bitching about "SJWs" who want to "ruin everyone for one mistake," yet on certain topics like this one, the entire thread is about how evil some celebrity is... because of one mistake.

I disagree with you all on the kid. She had no obligation to go see him. Why should she? And when a celebrity turns down a wish it is supposed to be kept private.

[quote]When you say The Best for everything is loses currency. You have to reserve it for items where the quality really makes a difference. You don't really have to use the best flour or tinned tomatoes, for instance.

She doesn't say "the best" on every ingredient; that's hyperbole.

Lots of Food Network cooks mention good brands of canned tomatoes to use. I used to use just everyday store brand diced tomatoes but find San Marzano (of nearly any brand) and Muir Glen, mentioned by Giada and Rachael Ray and others, are far superior. I've never heard Ina say "only THE BEST canned tomatoes" but if she did, I wouldn't blame her. It does make a difference.

It really seems like people on DL hate Ina for some reason they won't be honest about. "I heard she farts and doesn't think she's fat and is also evil at hates kids, not like us, we're kind and generous to tots all the time here on DL." I mean, come on. What really bothers you?

But she doesn't have to keep reiterating the point. We get it: good ingredients.

The stories of her flatulence are too well-established not to be true.

The fart story literally comes from an anonymous bitch on Datalounge and has been repeated as a meme.

No wonder gossip dried up on DL. Everyone is so gullible nowadays.

R113 None of these food shows includes superlatives like “the best” to actually suggest that you need superior ingredients. They do it because it psychologically suggests credibility, that if viewers follow this recipe—the best!—then their food will be the best. And of course most viewers will only watch and not cook the food. So it supports the notion that the people on TV are superior in the kitchen and therefore deserve people’s time and attention. It’s marketing, no different than every coffee shop having “the city’s best coffee” or every burger joint having “best burgers in town” in their windows. Nobody really believes it, but it still helps to lure people in.

And of course the elephant in the room with people like Ina and Martha is that “the best” is code for “the most expensive” and/or “the most exclusive.” And that really does work. If you spend years watching Ina and you are cooking for company, you’ll buy the most expensive vanilla you can find believing it’ll wow your guests. And the real payoff is when guests give you inevitable compliments, you then get to be pretentious and say, “is it really? You know what? I found this AMAZING vanilla. I heard about it from Ina Garten and I had to really hunt for it. I guess it REALLY DOES make a difference.” And then you’re beaming because you’ve got something elite, exclusive and better than most. Meanwhile, subconsciously everyone in the room knows you could have served Entenmann’s sheet cake and your guests would have given you the same compliments. It’s really all a charade, but in a world where we are made to feel inferior or inadequate if we don’t one-up everyone, most of us do buy into the charades.

[quote]The fart story literally comes from an anonymous bitch on Datalounge and has been repeated as a meme.

because those gurls WANT to believe the fart story.

[quote]I've never heard Ina say "only THE BEST canned tomatoes" but if she did, I wouldn't blame her. It does make a difference.

Ina's not much of an Italian cook. I've seen her put oil in her pasta water. I'm sure it was "the best" EVOO, but still.

Gay men LOVE Martha Stewart because in real life she's MEAN. The meaner these female celebs are the more gay men love them. Besides I got a recipe off the internet Martha Stewart's Vegetarian Chili -it's very good.

I really dislike how mean Martha is reputed to be. I really do. Because of it, I have never bought any of her branded crap.

I DO, though, find her on-camera persona interesting and entertaining. I see a tension of her compulsion to do everything “perfectly” and by the book and her need to appear likeable on camera, and she can actually be pretty silly and even funny with a dry wit that I appreciate. I watched her daughter’s short-lived show, and *she* seemed mean and humorless except when she was trying to be funny and actually was just being nasty without any real sense of humor. (I’ve met Melissa Rivers and she is similar. She seems to feel pressured to be Joan’s daughter and so she is always telling mean “jokes,” but she is witless and so she just comes across as insecure and ill tempered.)

I also admire one thing about Martha Stewart. When she was found guilty of insider trading, she claimed to have been ignorant about the criminal aspect of it, but she plead guilty and said, “send me to jail and let’s move on.” I can’t think of another wealthy celebrity who would ever do that. And I really do admire it. People who acknowledge faults and admit culpability do get my respect for it.

I have had very few issues with Martha's recipes. I discovered her in late 1982, when I bought ENTERTAINING with a gift card I'd been given for Christmas. I think it was my first cookbook with that kind of photography. I don't think I'd ever spent the then huge amount of $32 on a cookbook before. And there were many great ideas and recipes. The biggest idea was making food look good as well as taste good, something I may have done somewhat instinctively, as I hadn't ever really thought about it before, but which after reading ENTERTAINMENT, became something of a thing for me.

It truly woke me up to the presentation of hors d'oeuvres and crudites.

By the time Ina came along, I wasn't really using cookbooks much. She and I had obviously absorbed most of the same books during the '70s and '80s, so rather than actually learning anything new, I received confirmation that I'd been doing things right all along. A lot of the things she made in the first few years, well, that's how I made them, too, particularly cooking meat and fish.

Ina’s constant gushing over roast chicken is bizarre. I am sure the producers or Food Network execs and she decided that chicken is so common it’s invisible to people and perhaps she could build a chicken empire if she could co-opt such an everyday food and make it “a thing,” but no.

[quote]Ina’s constant gushing over roast chicken is bizarre.

Nah. She's just Jewish.

I am an artsy kind of person and I can really appreciate when people are into aesthetics and enjoy making presentations of food or anything else. I think that’s pretty wonderful because most people don’t bother with other forms of artistry or creativity. But the Ina/Martha thing isn’t really that. The motivations they sell is about keeping up with the Joneses and then outdoing them. It’s not about enjoyment; it’s about competition—hence, “the best.” Their best is better than yours.

As completely bonkers and annoying as the are, I always had the feeling in their early days that Rachael Ray and especially Sandra Lee were really more into the fun and creative aspects of what they do. Ray turned out to be a saleswoman with a joyless coal miner sort of sensibility after she sold out to Oprah, but Sandra Lee always felt more fun. I hated her at first and came to love her as a crazy drunk aunt, and after I admitted to myself that she’s right: most of the shit Ina and Martha want you to make from scratch can be bought, and you can spend your time doing more joyful things like covering your table in gaudy shit and drinking vodka from a juice jar.

Remember the DL meme going back a while ago about Ina's public flatulence? It was really quite funny.

Any comments about her BFF, the handsome, gay, male model TR?

[quote]But the Ina/Martha thing isn’t really that. The motivations they sell is about keeping up with the Joneses and then outdoing them. It’s not about enjoyment; it’s about competition—hence, “the best.” Their best is better than yours.

It certainly was in the beginning, cookbook-wise, with Martha. She had yet to become "Martha Fucking Stewart" at that point, and while growing up in Nutley may have given her a "Short-Hills-or-die" set of motivations from very early on, the book was about the work of putting the food together in a tasty, tasteful presentation. What she became, and she eventually inspired, can't take away from my experience of her earliest work.

Why are there any new episodes? Is she still making new one? When do they air?

I love her. I find her shows calming and relaxing.

Her latest series is called "Cook like a Pro."

[quote]Praise be to Food Network, which is lining up new episodes of Barefoot Contessa, according to Broadway World. The third season of Ina Garten’s Cook Like a Pro series is set to premiere Sunday, October 21, at 12:30 p.m. ET/PT. That’s not all: Garten will host a celebrity-packed Thanksgiving special — featuring fellow domestic goddesses Jennifer Garner and Nigella Lawson — on Saturday, November 17, at 8 p.m., as well as a “British-style lunch” to celebrate the new Mary Poppins movie on Sunday, December 9, at 12:30 p.m.

I love these sorts of threads.

I told my mom I don’t like Ina because she’s pretentious and the show’s scripting is lame, and my mom snapped at me that it’s because she’s fat. “You’ve always hated fat women!” It was so odd to me...I actually loved pre-disgraced Paula Deen, Oprah, so many other large ladies. Honestly, I think Ina’s overly bright kitchen set and her starchy white button down shirts annoy me as much as her lame scenarios and pretentiousness.

You can be big and on TV as long as your face is normal.

[quote]her starchy white button down shirts

Ina's shirts are mostly blue, and never button-down.

Either never say never, R135, or give up being a know it all.

R135

Still not a button-down, r136.

R135

R137 Thoroughly not a button-down.

R135

Count 'em and weep, cunts.

R135

Ina Farten. She has bad gas.

What is a button down to you, R135?

She's right. It is better to grill fish and serve with fresh sliced tomatoes with GOOD Olive oil, balsamic vinegar, salt, pepper and herbs than serve some sort of mutant bbq ranch chop salad monstrosity. It is better to get the later when you are dragged to the cheesecake factory.

The Bigfoot Cuntessa

She fat.

I wonder if Mike from the Palm Springs gathering has ever been invited to Ina's brunch?

A button-down shirt is one where you button the collar buttons down, r145.

R150 Oh, please. That’s ridiculously semantic, and based upon uncommon usage. I just Googled “button down shirt,” and results came up from Macy’s, Express, Nordstom, Target and other stores for their selections of button-fronted dress and casual shirts—with and without buttons on collars. If we are going to get tedious about this, then in your application, the term should be “buttoned-down,” not “button down.”

I don't give a shit what you think, r151. A button-down shirt is a button-down shirt. I know because they're the only kind I wear. So take your millennicunt "if we say something wrong often enough, we can make it right" bullshit right back out the door you walked in.

It's not an issue of grammar, simp. "Buttoned-down." Har-har-har.

R125 - Her chicken with lemon and garlic roasted over root vegetables is the best chicken I've ever cooked by a mile. The chicken comes out great and the vegetables roasted in the chicken juices are really delicious. I make it for company a lot and quite a few people have said it's the best chicken dinner they've ever had.

Ladies, take the discussion of her shents elsewhere. The rest of us are more interested in other aspects of Ina: her passive-aggresiveness, her elitism, her flatulence, her alleged feud with Martha, etc..

R153, that's the one that got me roasting chickens. I had always bought separate parts, usually BSCBs. I LOVE roasted chicken now.

Why is she so plump?

Oh god, now the queens are gushing over chickens! It’s contagious.

Ina's fart story originated with a YouTube video (which I think has been taken down). There's a point where she opens the oven door and you hear a tiny squeak. The person who posted the video titled it "Ina Garten Farts On Camera." That's where the meme started.

Is it a meme anywhere but Datalounge, r158?

And she ripped cheeks on The Today Show. You could hear it and Matt Lauer immediately backed away from her while having the I can smell that face on him. Her fart must have reeked.

[quote]perhaps she could build a chicken empire if she could co-opt such an everyday food and make it “a thing,” but no.

That fat-assed snobby bitch don't know chicken. She should stay in her lane with snobby people's food and leave the chicken to down home girls like me. I had me a restaurant while she was still trying to get that gay Jewish boy down the aisle.

Paula Deen seems to have totally disappeared altogether. I don't think even that YouTube channel she started after her cancellation has been updated in years.

R161 You’re not Paula Deen. You’re an imposter. Paula would have said “that homasexual Jewboy.”

Paula Deen is 71. She’s likely enjoying her wealthy retirement, playing with grandkids, drinking a lot, and when she needs attention making local appearances at small events where people gush about how much they love her and how wronged she was. That seems like a pretty fulfilling life without the hassle of recording shows and doing a critical media circus roadshow where you’re constantly being reminded of your slave parties.

She's not as huge as Chrissy Metz, but she's fatter than Karen Pence, and hovering around Sally Struthers rotundness.

The only interest I had in Paula were her once-fuckable sons.

Does Jeffrey call Ina Mother, too?

No, because Ina was barren.

R168 “Failed Mother,” then?

Paula Deen graduated to product placement. Does she still shill for Smithfield Ham? And yes, when her grandchildren came along, she just chucked the cooking show altogether. She built her empire, cooking show, cookbooks, branded products, made her money and is now having fun. Her sons had a tv show for awhile. Is that still on? Her only sin was that she helped thrust Guy Fieri on the world.

Ina can do no wrong, love her!

I did love Paula's Krispy Khocolate Kookies though. Here's the recipe:

Ingredients

2 cup white sugar 1 cup white flour 2 white eggs 1/2 cup white chocolate chips 1/2 cup dark chocolate chips

Method

Segregate eggs and keep only the whites. Add the sugar and whip furiously until well-beaten and behaved. Fold in the flour. Divide the mixture into two separate but equal bowls. Add the white chocolate chips to one batch and scoop onto a lined baking sheet. Add the darkie chips to the other batch, taking care not to deflate the white pillowy peaks and scoop onto the other sheet. Place them in a preheated oven with the dark cookies at the back and cook for twelve minutes or until they know their place.

How is Paula D responsible for Guy Fieri? Didn’t he win the Food Network Star show?

Is Ina barren or is Jeffrey not the type to plow her field?

R172 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[quote]How is Paula D responsible for Guy Fieri? Didn’t he win the Food Network Star show?

Either she was one of the judges or she helped him get on the show, I can't remember which. I remember she had him on her show and she said, "I knew when I first saw you that you were going to be something big."

The only time I ever saw anyone who wasn't white on the Barefoot Contessa was when she had that chocolatier from Boston on years ago. Is there not a single non-white person in the Hamptons Ina knows?

R177 I would guess that Ina values brown people in the same accepting way Kelly Osbourne does.

Heffrey could never stand being around Ina’s farts in bed so they never had offspring.

[quote]She’s more a celeb than a chef .

Except for the whole... actually being a chef thing.

I think the reverence of chefs is really interesting. I can’t think of another professional trade that basically requires an associate/2-year degree and an apprenticeship, after which people bow down in appreciation of their expertise.

[quote]I can’t think of another professional trade that basically requires an associate/2-year degree and an apprenticeship, after which people bow down in appreciation of their expertise.

Hairstylist.

[quote]But she doesn't have to keep reiterating the point.

Yes she does... again, she knows how dumb the majority of tv viewers are.

I was going to say I find it fascinating that people keep stating over and over that they find her "pretentious." That usually says more about the person who feels that way rather than the person they feel it about. I was surprised so many people think that about her though, because I don't really see it. Then I remembered that this is DL and most likely the majority of those posts come from one person who I recalled has an irrational hate for her. Probably because Ina does not wear shitty shoes.

r119 explains perfectly why many people react to Ina's pretentious attitude.

R183 You’re probably pretentious if you can’t see what makes her pretentious.

—“MY HOUSE IN THE HAMPTONS...”

—“I always use THE BEST _________.”

—“I have a date to visit with my friend _________, the GREEAT ______. He really makes THE BEST ______. When you’re in THE HAMTONS, you absolutely HAVE TO swing by and try it!”

—“GIGGLE! I wonder where JEFFREY could be! He always surprises me with THE GREATEST GIFTS.”

Cut to...

—“Ina has THE MOST REFINED TASTE in cheeses. Sometimes I like to swing by this little shop on the shore. They make THE GREATEST _____. Ina’s absolute favorite. She’s going to go crazy when I surprise her.”

Ina doesn't seem to have any friends who aren't famous and/or very well to do to outright filthy rich, nevertheless anyone of color.

And you know, she doomed herself to always being seen as pretentious the minute she decided to call herself “the barefoot contessa.” Jesus Christ. I realize it’s a reference to something else, but she appropriated it as a monkier to refer to her, and it says, “I think of myself as royalty—landed elite of yore—yet, I am casual, I break the rules, I don’t take my nobility too seriously. Don’t be surprised if you see me playfully slip out of my shoes at the next tea party at the Russian Tea Room. I am fancy, but not too fancy. I’m relatable. I LIVE IN THE HAMPTONS AND MY HUSBAND IS A WALL STREET ASSHOLE BUT I SWEAR HE IS NOT WVIL BECAUSE HE BRINGS ME CHEESE AFTER WORK!!!”

If she retitled her show “The Rich Bitch Kitchen with Ina Garten,” I will love her.

r185 nails it. My very first encounter with Ina Garten was watching her show where she's in Paris, strolling through the markets and then she makes dinner for her friends. Then she tries to recreate the same meal in the US. My first thought was that this was not doing a cooking show to instruct buy a lifestyle show to demonstrate "gracious" living. After watching that Paris show, I believed the show was targeted for escapism for the average hausfrau. Rich woman wouldn't watch a show like that because they already lived that lifestyle. It was escapism for the stay at home mother.

Someone sounds offended.

[quote]They make THE GREATEST _____. Ina’s absolute favorite. She’s going to go crazy when I surprise her.”

Enter Jeffrey carrying two brown paper bags. Ina grabs one bag and pulls out the contents. She holds up a 9" black dildo. The director yells cut.

Jeffrey: You grabbed the wrong bag.

Ina: We're filming here. Why couldn't you leave this in the car where I don't have to see it?

[quote] It was escapism for the stay at home mother.

I read a great article a while ago about how this has always been true, of them all, since about 1950.

Let me see if I can find it...

Here it is--

It was essentially about food writing being--as a profession--for no one else except rich people hawking their own lifestyle to aspiration middle-class people.

I think he went a bit far lampooning Fisher, but here you go.

This is kind of petty, but that's what we're here for. Did anybody notice how she blinks her eyes a lot or bats her eyelashes? It's mostly women who do that. She has long bangs/fringe, which is OK, but if it's getting in your eyes, then deal with it.

I do like her shows and I do trust her recipes. Her shows have high production values. Her set kitchen looks very cozy. Other shows, like Sandra Lee's and Trisha Yearwood's, look cheap in comparison.

R194, well, she's not blinking any more, so you don't have to worry about it.

Nobody can ever top Julia Child. She was a comic character and yet you had respect for her because she was so earnest about making good food. I always felt that Julia Child really wanted you to have a taste of excellent food.

I forgot how much good ole Poo hates Ina. Thanks for the reminder.

At least Poo doesn’t fart in public like Ina Farten does. She lets em rip amywhere anytime. Gross!

This is a good Ina thread from 2016--a few broken links though. Some fun gossip about TR, and of course more fart jokes.

Didn't know there was a fart thing about her here lol. just popped up in my boozy head when I was watching her in her garden

Here's the spinach gratin recipe from upthread:

Thanks for the reminder R199. That was the thread that revealed Poo thought of Ina as her own personal nemesis! Also the one where her other nickname, "Experienced Baker," came about.

Young Ina looks like young Ali MacGraw. Remember the DL meme going back a while ago about Ina's public flatulence? It was really quite funny.

[quote] Remember the DL meme going back a while ago about Ina's public flatulence? It was really quite funny.

How could we forget? It's resurrected weekly. It was never funny. Sixty year old men repeating a fart joke that was never funny = pathetic.

Young Ina looks like young Ali MacGraw.

[quote] Remember the DL meme going back a while ago about Ina's public flatulence? It was really quite funny.

How could we forget? It's resurrected weekly. It was never funny. Sixty year old men repeating a fart joke that was never funny = pathetic.

True, r204. Never, ever funny. Not even one time.

Was "Experienced Baker" really this Shitperson you all are so obsessed with?

Ina isn't pretentious. "Pretentious" comes from "pretend", and a pretentious person is someone who is pretending to be something they are not. Well Ina really is a wealthy bitch who lives in the Hamptons, and who has been able to afford the best vanilla and a $500 cheese board every time she has the local eldergays over for a very long time.

Sadly, our local eldergays who keep trying to take her down a peg by repeating the fart meme are not exploding her pretensions, they're just being jealous bitches.

Ina was always a bit pretentious but I still liked her. I couldn't stand some of those SCENEY, QUEENY, BITCHY gay helpers who would frequently appear on her show.

She has said in the past that she only has "real friends" on her show. If that is true, why are all of those group scenes so fucking awkward? Everyone is so stiff, and you get the feeling that they just tolerate her. Second hand embarrassment city.

"they're just being jealous bitches."

They're just being jealous bitches cause they couldn't get an invite to an Ina Garten affair if their miserable lives depended on it.

pre·ten·tious adjective: pretentious attempting to impress by affecting greater importance, talent, culture, etc., than is actually possessed.

Did she have some sort of falling out with TR Pescod?

[quote]Did she have some sort of falling out with TR Pescod?

He probably got tired of being her pet gay.

Or maybe Jeffrey made a pass at him and Ina paid him off to go away.

But I think he became woke when he met the Make A Wish kid in real life.

He got tired of her smelly farts.

Aren't you embarrassed to dredge up something that old, that tired, that unimaginative, r214?

R212 Their falling out is addressed in the link posted upthread.

[quote]A button-down shirt is one where you button the collar buttons down, [R145].

Very true. However, as was noted above, some retailers have taken to calling any shirt that buttons down the front as a 'button-down.' Another example of the dumbing-down of America.

[quote] Schilling's vanilla is made in a chemistry lab.

Are you posting from 1970? McCormick abandoned the Western-US-onlly Schilling brand decades ago.

[quote]Any comments about her BFF, the handsome, gay, male model TR?

Since they are no longer friendly, he obviously wasn't her "BFF."

[quote]I found this AMAZING vanilla. I heard about it from Ina Garten and I had to really hunt for it.

How would you have heard about it from Ina? She never mentions brand names.

[quote]Make-a-Wish works with children with life-threatening illnesses, but thankfully, many of its wish recipients go on to lead healthy lives. And Enzo's blog clearly describes him as in remission. "Enzo is NOT dying or terminal, he IS very sick but he is VERY MUCH alive and the most ALIVE person I have EVER known!" his mother and family write. "He has two beautiful, sensitive, loving sisters who have been very private through out his treatments and I feel terrible that they had to see that OVER and OVER again. Can you imagine how that makes them feel?"

Enzo must have gotten the REALLY GOOD chemo.

[quote]How would you have heard about it from Ina? She never mentions brand names.

I'm not sure that's true. I actually remember an episode where she does talk about vanilla. I'm pretty sure she said the name of the brand or at the very least the label was clearly visible (I think it was the former though). The only other thing I remember about it is that she was standing in her pantry when she was talking about it.

R222, that was for Ina's own recipe!

I mean, when I go to Fresh Market, I see that a single vanilla stalk is like $8. She wants you to throw in 12 or 24 to your vanilla extract bottle?

I think the vanilla was mentioned in the episode mentioned in this article.

She may have said something about how she makes her own vanilla but when she doesn't have it on hand she uses Nielsen-Massey Madagascar Bourbon Pure Vanilla Extract.

[quote]I mean, when I go to Fresh Market, I see that a single vanilla stalk is like $8. She wants you to throw in 12 or 24 to your vanilla extract bottle?

Prices vary. I know that you can get "good quality" stalks at Costco for about $8 for 6 stalks.

One of Ina's favorite gays getting his model on, ya'll!

This is such bullshit--

[quote] And if Ina’s enthusiasm doesn’t convince you that real vanilla is a good thing to have on hand, read up what imitation vanilla is made. According to Business Insider, coal tar is one of the sources of synthetic vanillin and "cinnamon, paper waste, pine bark, and even cow poop” have been used. Whoa. We’ll stick with the good vanilla.

The Food Network is really getting ridiculous. The linked BI article is out how these things used to be in artificial vanilla before they discovered it caused cancer--like decades ago.

R226, why the air quotes around "good quality"?

Here's 5 for $23 at Costco.

I understand from upthread that this is the brand she uses--16 for $110.

The back of the costco one has a recipe for Vanilla Scented Chard--that's fucking disgusting.

The good brand guarantees at least 17cm in length for each bean.

R229 I put it in quotes because it seems to really bother some around here.

And I know that the beans are cheaper in store at Costco. A lot of the items on costco.com have much higher prices than they do in store.

But also not all stores carry the vanilla beans.

r153 Ina's perfect roast chicken (for Jeffrey)

"I mean, when I go to Fresh Market, I see that a single vanilla stalk is like $8. She wants you to throw in 12 or 24 to your vanilla extract bottle? "

Unless you're drinking the extract for the alcohol content, a bottle of homemade vanilla extract might last for years! Or serve as Christmas gifts for people you don't see that much, or as a tax deduction if you're in the food business. So while obviously homemade vanilla extract is extremely expensive compared to store-bought, it's not going to bankrupt you.

Cook's Illustrated did a taste test of vanillas in this month's issue -- the co-winners were an expensive product (Simply Organic brand; $12.99/4 oz.) and a cheap IMITATION vanilla (Baker's Imitation Vanilla Flavor; 99 cents/8 oz.)

R235 I read an article where there was a study done and in blind tests, the majority of people preferred imitation vanilla over high end vanillas.

I think it had to do with people being so used to eating crap sweets like Hostess, etc. that they were used to that fake flavor and preferred it.

I bought cheap imitation vanilla accidentally (before vanilla prices went sky high). I could tell it wasn't as good as GOOD vanilla (let alone "the very best" vanilla).

OP, here is a link to a 2011 Ina hate thread. Here is a sample:

I can't stand her breathless way of delivering each line and the way she could serve Jeffery's turd on a platter and make it seem like it took 3 gorillas and a pack of coolies to produce it.

R236 I was going to say the same thing. Americans are so used to eating processed, artificially flavored, garbage food.

R237 Jesus! Just googled Nielsen-Massey vanilla and the price has gone up about 200%. WTH!! Was there a natural disaster in Madagascar? The price of accelerated global climate change, people...literally. Good thing I still have about 4 oz. in my current bottle.

[quote]Jesus! Just googled Nielsen-Massey vanilla and the price has gone up about 200%. WTH!! Was there a natural disaster in Madagascar? The price of accelerated global climate change, people...literally. Good thing I still have about 4 oz. in my current bottle.

There seemed to be some sort of vanilla bean crisis a few years back which either the market still hasn't recovered from or they figured people would actually pay higher prices and they stuck with it.

Kirkland has a very highly rated vanilla that used to sell for about $8 for an 8 0z bottle. A few years ago that bottle went up to $24.99. I noticed a few months ago that it is now up to over $32.00.

Ina does recommend certain brands in her cookbooks. There is a reasonably priced truffle butter that is heaven.

Okay. Define 'reasonably priced'

There are more black truffles in Ina's kitchen than there are black people in East Hampton.

Someone also once posted on this site about her disgraceful behaviour at a dinner party. She was taking huge portions of cassoulet, I believe.

Oh, here it is:

"This was told to me by a friend who attended a dinner party with her in East Hampton. One of the invitees showed up unexpectedly with Ina. She wasn't specifically invited but it was no nig deal. It was a casual buffet dinner.

There was a simple green salad, cassoulet, French bread and, for dessert, just chocolates and petits fours secs (fancy cookies, basically). My friend's experience had been that most fat people eat rather moderately in the company of others so he was shocked at how Ina put it away.

She skipped the salad and went straight for the cassoulet, eating two huge portions of the heavy stew, along with "at least a half loaf of French bread." She washed it all down with numerous glasses of good Hermitage wine and then tore into the sweets.

Tasteful to the end, she spent the rest of the evening blowing up a nearby bathroom. A memorable time was had by all. "

And this titbit:

"I have a feeling Ina doesn't see herself as fat. "

If you're obese like Ina and spend all day wolfing down heavy cream and brie and whatnot you DO fart a lot.

[quote] it took 3 gorillas and a pack of coolies to produce it

You seem nice.

Nothing worse than Ina’s cassoulet farts. She can clear out a room so that she gets all the food for herself.

Mindy Cohen from The Facts Of Life should have been the daughter that Ina Garten never had.

The OP doesn't hate Ina Garten at all. The title of this thread should be I love MAKING FUN of Ina Garten.

True, R249. In her young photos she looks just like Natalie.

....

I did criticize her commands upthread (Do you know how much a bottle of GOOD vanilla costs these past couple of years, Ina?) but at least some of it seems to come from a love of food. Martha's commands that things be good seems more based on snobbery or a belief that that's the 'right' way to do things.

Any details on their alleged feud. I've only heard allusions to it, but it seems real. Why do they never appear on each other's shows?

You're just saying that because Ina is fat and hogs the food at strangers' parties, while Martha would wring her own neck before blowing up anyone's bathroom.

I cut Martha slack. There isn't anything that she doesn't seem interested in, and does it all well. When she has guests on her PBS shows, she follows right along with what they are doing.

I remember one old show where a bartender was on and she was having problems with a cocktail shaker and the guy said That's Ok, let's move along and Martha said No, I want to do it correctly.

I do like them both though.

I believe every word of that story at R245 BTW.

That Ina story is bullshit.

I've read most of Ina's cookbooks. (From the library) I like the style: high-low, earthy-elegant, French-but-not-fussy, whatever she calls it. Orzo shrimp salad is exactly the kind of thing I love.

Martha's recipes... I sometimes look at her website and it seems like there's an assembly line turning them out, not necessarily checking them exhaustively. Ina's -- though not perfect -- at least seem to have her stamp of approval. Does Martha even know her minions names?

If it's not fussy, it's not French.

R259 YES! Her 'Roasted Shrimp and Orzo' recipe is one of my favorites (reduce the salt though). Also, the servings estimate is way low. The recipe states 6, but it's easily double that. I usually cut it in half.

Hmm...maybe that story about the piles of cassoulet is true.

Pescod..doesn't that mean fish?

She also just casually adds Pernod to boiling liquid — which she then throws out.

[quote] True, [R249]. In her young photos she looks just like Natalie.

Ina and Mindy Cohn look absolutely nothing like each other.

Ina and Jeffrey are childless by choice and Ina said she doesn't like when kids come over her house. She said she makes them peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and puts them in front of a TV while the adults can play. I'm not surprised she had so little interest in a dying kid since she likely wishes they'd all die.

Ina once had an African American chef on who made scrambled eggs with Kim Chee. Ina said she'd never eaten it. When Martha Stewart was doing a segment on Korean cooking, she said that when she was visiting Seoul, she ate kim chee every day.

I mean, say what you will about Martha, she's the one who actually gardens--and grows her own ingredients (veggies and herbs) that go into her recipes. She is, and always has been, scrupulous about at least trying to do research into cooking methods and such. She's not a trained chef (neither is Ina), but she tries hard to approximate the seriousness of a real "French" chef. And she did start out by running her own catering company.

Ina started out by running a little shop of expensive ingredients for rich ladies like herself. (And house-flipping.) Her recipes--which you make like or not like--are all--put the most expensive ingredients you can find into a pot. There's no way to really get anything wrong. It's easy cooking.

Julia Child once tried something like 250 different recipes for bread in a row before printing the one she thought best in her book. Martha would do that. Could you imagine Ina?

[quote]Ina started out by running a little shop of expensive ingredients for rich ladies like herself.

Nope. Not ingredients. Really good cooked dishes, for carryout. Or catering.

The best isn't always expensive. A farm stand for produce is cheaper and better than even a fancy grocery.

There was a thread on "Barefoot Contessa" the store and people remarked that everything in it was ridiculously expensive.

Ina farts around kids.

Martha has always been insufferable. Prison was the best thing that ever happened to her. More recently, her friendship with Snoop. I don't think he would be friends with someone devoid of a sense of humor. Her roast of Justin Bieber killed. Even if the lines were written for her, she delivered them as well as a pro. The older she gets, the more she lets it all hang out. That said, I stopped trying out her recipes ages ago. They never worked for me, and I had a bit of a hunch that it was deliberate, and I'm not the first person with that thought. Hopefully that has since changed. Ina's are great, watch the salt (and I love salt) and watch out for how much lemon she uses . With both, you can always add more, but you can't un-add.

I've just finally blocked all of the queens with the fart jokes and I never block anyone. I thought it was one person but I was wrong. Seriously, WTF is wrong with you all? You're fucking juvenile humor is sad. I'm sure the time I spend on DL will be a lot better.

Well, smell you, r272. How dainty. "I never block anyone" So racists, homophobes, trolls, rabid Frauen, etc. have NEVAH! been blocked by you, but fart jokes are what took you over the edge? Oh, my sides!

I have had luck with many of Martha's recipes, especially the ones from Big Martha. The meatloaf, stuffed cabbage and pierogi- simple things.

R272 it's called a browser switch.

There's a big difference between not liking kids and wanting them all dead, R265.

A small one, r276. You likely don't fly much.

You don't need to fly much, r277, to realize children don't belong on planes. All it takes is once.

Oh, yes, try getting the back of your seat kicked for nine hours straight. I'm with Ina.

It's perfectly okay to not like children. Why would that cancer child want someone who didn't like children around them? So she could be her usual passive aggressive self? And he could see it up close?

Fraus would've thrown a fit if Ina had just said, 'Sorry about your illness, but I don't care for children.' So I guess she couldn't. Food Network would've cancelled her faster than Paula Deen.

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In case you haven’t read it, the Washington Post published a long fluffy bio/promotion for Ina years ago. It opens with a focus on her dedication to ancient vanilla extract, but the real surprise comes with the background that she and Jeffrey lived in DC, where he worked for the State Department and she “analyzed nuclear energy policy for the Office of Management and Budget.” (The Post could have said she was an accountant or a policy analyst, but the nuclear thing really makes her sound sophisticated, no?)

She was born Ina Rosenberg, the daughter of a surgeon, in Stamford, Connecticut. So she was basically born into the very life that Martha Stewart dreamed of in New Jersey and created for herself in Connecticut. If Ina is not pretentious by virtue of actually being that which she portrays, she at the very least inspires pretension among her viewers. Call it aspirational or call it elitist, it’s all the same. She is the maker of Bree Van de Kamp types.

Garten began to cook when she and Jeffrey eventually moved to Washington in 1972, following a four-month camping trip in France. He primarily worked for the State Department, and she analyzed nuclear energy policy for the Office of Management and Budget during the day and experimented with Julia Child recipes by night.

Ina’s a lot like other TV personalities in that there’s lots of promise and not much delivery. She has a great open face with a constant smile that looks like she’s just about to tell you a secret. But she never does.

Her recipes are more about assembly than actual cooking. The orzo and shrimp is a perfect example. Lots of chopping, dicing and throwing everything into a bowl. It’s just the sort of thing that fancy take-out places trade in.

But the biggest problem with Ina is that she’s dull. With her fab life in the Hamptons and her coterie of aging queens, you’d think she’d be both a hoot and a source for great anecdotes and gossip. Instead she’s a cheery fat girl with not a whole lot on her mind.

Was that trip to Brooklyn actually to her Grandparent's house? In that episode (though I can barely remember) doesn't she imply she grew up there not in affluent Connecticut?

R283 Most of the Food Network is dull. That’s sort of the whole point as far as I can tell. When I get overwhelmed by news and other awful aspects of reality, Ina, the Pioneer woman, the country singer, Giada and her deranged grin are all there graciously waiting to take my mind off of reality.

“Take a lemon and squeeze it...”

“Take a spoon and stir...”

“Now take a bowl and put your flour in...”

Food Network, take me away!

[quote] she ... experimented with Julia Child recipes by night.

*I* experimented before putting them in my book!

If you watch the early episodes on YT she did a lot more actual cooking than just placing expensive shit on a cheeseboard and you might catch some TR episodes. He always seemed like he thought his appearances on her show were going to be a stepping stone to fame and fortune for him. He was hot, but that was about it.

I wonder if he still lives near her and if they look the other way if they run into each other or just glare.

R287 Surely whatever YT and TR are, they’re neither too long nor too difficult to spell that you couldn’t just name them in the interest of clearer communication.

YT is YouTube and that's a common abbreviation.

TR is TR Pescod, that's the name of a former friend of Ina's who any Ina fan who posts on DL (yes, DL) would know.

You know perfectly well he was talking about Yina Tarten.

Is that her Israeli equivalent?

Tina Yothers

Tina Yothers looks more like Ina than I would have expected. She should go back to blonde.

I checked out TR on Instagram and he still lives in the Hamptons, is friends with Don Lemon and Chris Cuomo follows him. Looks like he's doing interior design these days.

What was the dirt on TR anyway? What caused the falling out with Ina?

Spill the tea!

R35 Giada is a chef. she went to Cordon Bleu and everything.

R283 and R285,

You made me laugh. Thanks

What does Ina weigh?

Probably things that are heavier than she is.

What is the TR tea? What happened between them???

Spill!

I went to one of her book signings, and Ina is little, believe it or not. Yes, she overweight but hardly a slob. Great jewelry too- I mentioned a piece that I recognized.

I don’t think the Velma hairdo does her any aesthetic favors.

Oh, honey, Ina will go to the grave with that bob.

It's like Barbara Bush's pearls.

How tall is Ina? Five foot?

R303 But why? Surely Ina has the money to buy a second wig.

Her weight caries depending on the gas she has built up. When she lets the farts loose, she is 2 lbs lighter.

[quote]Olio Santo Olive Oil

[quote]“I like California olive oil better than I like Italian. It’s fruiter. It doesn’t have that little turpentine-y edge, or bitterness from the olives. I use it for everything. I use it for sautéing. I use it for dipping. I use it for finishing a salad. My favorite one is Olio Santo. I would say I’ve been using it for the 20 years that I’ve been writing cookbooks, but probably long before that too.”

[quote]Buy Olio Santo's California Extra Virgin Olive Oil, $20 on Amazon

$20 for 250ml of maple syrup? Those are some expensive farts.

AAARF!

It is extremely odd to me that there is so much hate for her here, in what is ostensibly a gay space; she should be REVERED by us! What the fuck sort of gay doesn't want fine ingredients and a beautiful table? You all type like you're one goddamn Velveeta Mac n'Cheese away from moving into a trailer park with your cousin-wife, and worse, are *weirdly* proud of it.

Ina is absolutely everything we should strive to be, and if being told NOT to use some bullshit $5 bottle of fake olive oil is offensive to you and spending $100+ to put together a beautiful cheese board is "elitist", then you are the problem, not her.

“...if being told NOT to use some bullshit $5 bottle of fake olive oil is offensive to you and spending $100+ to put together a beautiful cheese board is "elitist", then you are the problem, not her.”

MAAAAAAAAAARY!

Wow, I thought she'd use a lot more organic products. She uses ketchup with HFCS and Crisco canola oil instead of non GMO canola oil and stuff like that and WHAT is with all that white chocolate. Her ingredients are mostly everyday shit you can get in any supermarket. She should know that open mustard should be kept in the fridge, unless she uses the entire jar in less than a week.

If I had her money I'd use better quality ingredients for the most part. Also if you regularly follow her show over the years she always says her favorite places for produce or chicken or whatever are this place then on another show it's that place. Does she just turn on these store owners or is she just lying to give each of them a little free advertising, which I guess is a nice thing to do but makes it seems like she's a liar or very fickle.

Inahas cunt farts.

The fart thing is so fucking tedious. I am asking seriously: do you guys honestly think it’s funny? I can understand if *one* fart joke a day made a gaggle of 12-year-old boys giggle uproariously, but half this thread is polluted with “Ina farts!” Oh my God. Adult men tittering over “someone farted!” Fuck.

Its a known fact that Ina Farts all the time and in front of people.

R313, save your breath. It's falling on deaf ears.

I've asked twice now about gossip on TR Pescod. You know, because this is a gossip site. But no. No TR gossip. No Ina gossip, for that matter. Just the same tired fart joke over and over.

It's the same repetitive, juvenile fuckwits who think the "SJP is a horse" jokes are still funny.

This site has really gone downhill.

Because R315 the TR thing has been repeated countless times. In fact, the other thread linked just a few posts above discusses it within the first couple of dozen posts.

Rundown: TR allegedly tried to go behind Ina's back to try to get either his own show or get them to give him her show or make him a co-host.

And it's not that a whole lot of people find the fart thing funny. The majority of those posts come from one person who had an intense dislike for Ina (as she does most women of around the same age) and who is obsessed with everything to do with shitting.

[quote]I've asked twice now about gossip on TR Pescod. You know, because this is a gossip site. But no. No TR gossip.

Gossip, or tea? No one is going to respond to "Spill the tea!"

When Ina and Jeffrey have sex Ina has a gun to his head and has a dildo up his ass while saying to Jeffrey: I'LL PIMP YOU OUT BITCH!

R319, the heighth of cleverness.

r320, "heighth"?

R317 wants GOOD posts only.

If you can't come up with your own posts, copying and pasting from reddit is fine.

I wonder how old R319 actually is.

I just bought her original cookbook.

Her soup recipes are for 8-12 people. Fuck that shit. For God's sake!

[quote]Her soup recipes are for 8-12 people.

Or, if that cassoulet story is to be believed, for Ina alone.

These crude jokes are not funny.

R324, so cut the recipe in half. How hard is that?

[quote][R324], so cut the recipe in half. How hard is that?

I live on my own, even if I do that I'll be eating it until Easter.

I don't see the problem with that, R324.

Most soups (as long as they don't contain pasta) freeze really well and make great leftovers. Chili too.

I almost always make a huge pot of soup and then freeze the leftovers for a quick nuke and eat when I don't feel like cooking. Especially in the winter.

Who makes soup for just 1 or 2? That's a waste of time.

Or are you more accustomed to heating up Campbell's?

I don't even know if I like the fucking soup. I'm not going to make vast quantities at this point. BUT I see what you and wise and wonderful R327 mean.

Browser switch!

I can't think of the last recipe dud I've had from Ina, other than cutting down on the salt as others have mentioned.

My partner and I have one of those vacuum sealer things that make everything flat, so extras fit well in the freezer.

I have never cooked a BAD recipe from Ina, but I will say that most of her recipes are really basic. Her background as a caterer comes in to play often and she does show a lot of short cuts and/or ways to cook ahead, re-heat, salvage, etc. That said, I do think that a lot of her recipes need more excitement so I often use them as a jumping off point and go from there. To mimic many above - her salt content is almost always too high and her hated of cilantro gets old. All in all, she does bring a lot to the table for the home cook - just try to not be too literal when cooking her dishes.

Her food is nice -- but not groundbreaking or inventive, or even just original.

It's the same expensive ingredients -- good olive oil, fabulous shrimp, endive, sun-dried tomatoes, white wine you'd drink, truffle butter -- and you just throw together and it does taste good (how could it not?) but it's not what Julia Child or even Martha have contributed to the culinary canon.

She keeps defending truffle butter as being totally affordable.

Martha's working class upbringing comes through sometimes. Though she wouldn't hesitate to use truffle butter, she'd never tell her audience it was cheap; nor even use it in something like mac and cheese like Ina.

Wasn't Ina's father a surgeon?

And her mother was a nutritionist who wouldn't allow Ina chocolate. I wonder if she lived to see her get fat.

....

Ina had a couple of episode where she tried making up for the Make A Wish kid. Once she gave a demonstration to a class of mentally handicapped kids and I have to say it was awkward. You saw how uncomfortable she was with people who couldn't distinguish between good and bad olive oil and even though she was trying, it really did come across like Community Service. She had the adopted kids of a friend over and they made pizza and she did much better there.

Nothing wrong with people who don't want/like kids but don't try to fake it.

And yes, Ina had a very distant mother, I guess like MTM's Beth. She said she identified more with her dad.

Her disdain for cilantro sometimes seems more like food racism than a personal distaste for the flavor. Like Chris Kimball's disdain for all ethnic food. Which isn't uncommon and can easily happen when you snobbily believe that only French food is real cuisine.

The truffle butter is only $25 for a large amount, but really sourcing the best ingredients doesn't have to cost a lot- it does take time though.

R340, Milk Street has an International Focus. Was he such a food Nazi that he was forced to deliver a show about international cuisine? I saw one he did on Japanese Food and he almost gave the Chefs a blow job.

I say food racism because cilantro seems to be the dividing ingredient between white people food and brown people food. It's so widely used is Asian cuisines and Latin American cuisine.

The hatred for cilantro is uniquely American. It doesn't exist in Europe. In the UK (where cilantro goes by coriander) Marmite would fill that role.

It makes me think it's a dog whistle way of saying Mexicans. Or a symptom of that dated French fellation of the pre-80s food world.

[quote][R340], Milk Street has an International Focus. Was he such a food Nazi that he was forced to deliver a show about international cuisine? I saw one he did on Japanese Food and he almost gave the Chefs a blow job.

No, he USED to be. He's totally over it now. And you're right Milk Street is very international.

Ina and Jeffery are great supporters of Planned Parenthood.

The only adverse gossip about Ina I know of is when her 'friends' appeared on her early shows they were paid but never got residuals for re-runs or DVD releases of her shows. That's why she's gone more celebrity guests than the Lippermans or next door neighbor Barbara, who I understand doesn't speak to her anymore.

Spending $25 (maybe) on butter that's 2% white truffle to make mac and cheese might be doable... but not great value as she keeps genuinely insisting.

TR, Barbara -- who else has she fallen out with? Celebrities seem to feature more than friends nowadays. It's not just TR; we rarely see anyone much nowadays except for the Liebermans.

[quote] Ina and Jeffery are great supporters of Planned Parenthood.

Especially in the 34th trimester.

I'd like to see Ina recreate the childcatcher scene from Chitty, Chitty, Bang, Bang but with really good olive oil instead of candy.

[quote]Nothing wrong with people who don't want/like kids but don't try to fake it.

She never wanted kids or couldn't have them?

Maybe both.

She and Jeffrey could've adopted. She never really seems comfortable around kids (when she rarely is) and has never expressed regret publicly.

[quote]The only adverse gossip about Ina I know of is when her 'friends' appeared on her early shows they were paid but never got residuals for re-runs or DVD releases of her shows. That's why she's gone more celebrity guests than the Lippermans or next door neighbor Barbara, who I understand doesn't speak to her anymore.

Nigella hired a binch of actors as her "friends".

But I seem to remember she had her dreary sister on a bunch of her shows.

[quote]She and Jeffrey could've adopted. She never really seems comfortable around kids (when she rarely is) and has never expressed regret publicly.

I, personally, prefer celebrities who don't feel the need to discuss every aspect of their personal lives with the world.

I don't want to know about Ina's ectopic pregnancies and the like.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

I think because Nigella's real friends and family mostly declined to appear. Brits are more reticent about that sort of thing than Americans.

They never really PLAYED her friends though. They were always anonymous nobodies (with one line per person at most.) It's not like she cast someone as her husband.

[quote] I, personally, prefer celebrities who don't feel the need to discuss every aspect of their personal lives with the world.

Then you must dislike Ina. Since we all know let's about her just from what's she's said.

Is TR a Datalounger?

She is fat but not at Metz territory yet she does waddle.

Yes, Heinz HFCS ketchup with truffle butter -- so Ina.

I agree, let's hear more about her falling out with Barbara. TR I can sort of understand because he was a user and star fucker who wanted his own show but you start wondering if Ina has any real friends aside from Jeffrey. And she said that she and Jeffrey have each other only, no pets, no kids. She said she often feels left out when her friends' kids are graduating, getting married, etc. But not so much that she doesn't make sure that her get togethers are "Adults Only". Maybe Ina gets on the Lazy Susan and everyone gets her chance at her really good lady hams.

I think Ina's negative relationship with her mom had to influence her decision not to have kids. And as said earlier, she really doesn't seem to want to be around kids at all. That's a reason why the Make A Wish debacle was so believable. I think that whole thing might have humbled many people but not Ina. If she's on a show with kids, she's really pushing herself.

The first result I get for truffle butter on Amazon is $36 for 3 ounces.

Isn't it Barbara Lieberman? If she and Ina don't talk, is she still friends with Barbara's husband Bobby?

I hear Ina and Martha fell out when Martha got drunk on $45 Pinto Grigio and said Jews were behind all America's wars.

I think Martha began to view Ina as a threat maybe circa. 2003. Do they even follow each other on Instagram?

Her salt habit is expensive too. Given the sheer amount of expensive stuff she uses.

[quote] I think Ina's negative relationship with her mom had to influence her decision not to have kids. And as said earlier, she really doesn't seem to want to be around kids at all. That's a reason why the Make A Wish debacle was so believable. I think that whole thing might have humbled many people but not Ina. If she's on a show with kids, she's really pushing herself.

Ina Garten is a very smart and very accomplished woman. What is with this sexist bullshit about kids. In no thread about any man will you find the criticism; well he doesn't like or want kids. Who gives a fuck what she thinks about kids.

[quote]In no thread about any man will you find the criticism; well he doesn't like or want kids.

Quite different.

[quote]Who gives a fuck what she thinks about kids.

Who? People on this thread clearly, who have been discussing it.

You know they haven't slept in one bed since 1982. Not that I blame Jeffrey. Ina's 'Dutch oven' is infamous.

[quote]Especially in the 34th trimester.

Hear, hear!

[quote]Her disdain for cilantro sometimes seems more like food racism than a personal distaste for the flavor. Like Chris Kimball's disdain for all ethnic food. Which isn't uncommon and can easily happen when you snobbily believe that only French food is real cuisine.

The weirdest one for me is the Pioneer Woman's hatred of bananas. I've never heard of or met anyone who dislikes bananas.

I dislike bananas, I just find the taste repellent. Always have.

As for cilantro, some people just dislike it. To some people it tastes like soap instead of the mild bitterness the rest of us experience, liking it or disliking it is a known genetic quirk rather than "racism".

I loathe bananas!

[quote] Quite different.

No its not different. Ina Garten is a cook and entrepreneur. She is not a parent. She does not work with or for children. The fact that she has a vagina does not obligate her to feel any particular way about children, nor is she obligated to reproduce. The criticism is repeatedly launched at Garten strictly because she is a woman.

[quote] Who? People on this thread clearly, who have been discussing it.

Outside of the sexist idiots discussing it; I assure you that no one cares.

I don't like bananas. I don't hate them, but the texture is too pasty. I always have a big drink of water next to me when I eat a banana. I need help swallowing all their pasty goodness.

Both my parents hate bananas

My boyfriend hates bananas; he was the first person I'd ever met who did not like them. (I love them.)

R363, check again. Truffle butter is usually around $25 a pound. And it's not like it's a requirement to cook Ina's recipes.

I'm guessing you can't use SNAP though. Sucks to be poor. Try Trisha Yearwood- she can do miracles with canned soups.

I'm going to make her Corn Chowder. I'll post back with photos. But give me a couple of days.

It's best to make in season. Have you learned nothing from Ina?

I'm using frozen corn (Ina says that's OK).

[quote]I'm going to make her Corn Chowder. I'll post back with photos. But give me a couple of days.

Is this your way of honoring the late Miss Channing?

True, but it's not as good as fresh.

Well, I personally don't care for truffles at all (much less truffle butter - gross), but that does not keep me from trying her recipes. I would have to agree with her that good quality cheeses and decent olive oil are always a plus. That said, how much cheese do you really need for any one recipe (besides the lazy ass cheese plate that she makes all of the time)? Shop at decent stores and buy what is on sale. While I will pay full price for groceries that I need often or for some dish that I really want to make for whatever reason - I often let what good proteins are on sale (good beef, fish, shellfish, etc.) dictate what I am cooking. The same goes for vegetables - buy what is in season if you can. Not only is this produce far more appealing, but it is often on sale as well. The end product tastes so much better.

R385- thanks for the tips.

Can you imagine the Ina farts after she eats corn? Oh my.

More about why she never had children please.

She must hate them.

It seems like her own mother is to blame.

Jeffrey sure does love those business trips to Palm Springs and San Francisco.

Maybe that traveling might explain why they never had kids.

Her gays.

I've been looking at some of her shows on YouTube.

She goes on and on about some ABSOLUTELY TERRIFIC friend who's gonna be turning up - and what we get is some lame-assed queen with a very heavy accent - then she'll say "God, we've had so much fun over the years!" - and I think, with who, THIS dreary creep?

What's her idea of fun? Discussing "quality" Olive Oils?

All of her QUEENY guests look so BITCHY. After the taping you know her GAY friend will tell Ina in private- Ina your Jeffrey needs to get on a treadmill pronto!

I love to hate her brother, Kinder Garten.

She's huge in season 3. but one of her gheys looks kinda handsome but seems pretty douche like.

She's pretty connected. On one of her London tips, she had Camilla's son show her around.

I wouldn't mind being Rob Marshall's friend. for one.

Her weight has gone up and down, yes.

[quote]She's pretty connected. On one of her London tips, she had Camilla's son show her around.

Yet she's totally unknown in England.

[quote]On one of her London tips, she had Camilla's son show her around.

He's a food critic. The Camilla thing is just by the by.

Just watched her London show. So good.

BUT I must say....

she made mashed potatoes and the amount of cream and the butter she used. Fucking hell. I could show how her how to make a good mashed potato with a fraction of the calories.

Also - seems she IS on TV in England on The Food Network Channel. I've set my DVR or whatever you call it.

Why don't you show us, r399.

R372 Wonder if Ladd's banana is peeled or unpeeled?

Good god, R343. Give it a rest.

Disliking cilantro is actually genetic. To those with a certain gene, it literally tastes like soap.

It isn't a baby taste/picky eater issue, and it certainly isn't a "racist dog whistle."

Jesus Christ, you people who see racism everywhere are tedious and exhausting.

Some of these recipes aren't for every day, unless you want to drop dead by 40. When I make mashed potatoes, I use equal parts butter and potato with heavy cream. Only a couple of times a year, but they are so good.

She's dropped most of her lesser gay friends from the show, except for the hired gays like her florist and photographer, and replaced them with wealthier and more famous gays like Rob Marshall and Eli Zabar. I wonder if she's even friends with her old gay friends anymore?

She has SO MANY gay friends. Far more than I do. But, she's clearly NOT picky. They're the dreariest gays I've ever seen in my life.

Even in that London episode - she twice went to meet with friends, who were of course gay. Then she raced back to New York to cook some of the things she'd discovered in London and served them to more gay friends...and a couple of gurls.

[quote]IT’S TOMORROW!!! The stars and creators of MARY POPPINS RETURNS - Emily Blunt, Lin-Manuel Miranda, Rob Marshall, and John Deluca - came to the barn for a very special lunch and I’m so excited to share it with you! Join us tomorrow on Food Network

Emily Blunt is no TR Pescod.

Is Emily Blunt wearing 5" heels, or is she just a foot taller than I thought?

Or is Ina 4'6"?

Ina had no kids by choice. Can we stop talking about the fucking lack of crotch droppings now?

You are not the conversation police, R410.

Ina must be about five foot. Which makes me curious as to what she weighs.

[quote]Ina had no kids by choice. Can we stop talking about the fucking lack of crotch droppings now?

Gurl, people had stopped talking about it..it's you who re-opened the conversation

Probably they couldn't have them naturally and then made the choice to not have them.

And you re-opened it yet again, R413.

People don't check in on DL throughout the day anymore, it seems, so we always get threads where someone shows up to weigh in on an issue that was last mentioned a day ago or so. It's just how DL is now.

Most women want children. I'm fine talking about why Ina didn't want them.

Didn't she even make an allusion to that in the foreword to BC: Family Style?

And it seems from her Cooking for Jeffrey book that it really is just a love affair between the two of them.

London.

I'm off to buy the ingredients for my Ina Corn Chowder.

never heard of yellow onions or turmeric and have to find out what the hell she means by "cups" - but I'll get there.

There's no way someone as "Mumsy" as we say in England as Ina wouldn't want a baby if she[bold] could[/bold] have them. NO WAY!

Ina is mumsy in appearance, but not maternal.

We call her Bearfat Contessa in our household.

Chubby Contessa

Heads up: not every woman who has children wanted (or likes) children.

My father should never, ever have had children. He hated the responsibility, and resented the living fuck out of me and my brother because our childhoods were not impoverished like his. At least he had the good sense to prevent that from happening. But still...

Yes, I'm aware this means I think I should never have been born.

Abortions are easy, R422.

Maybe she was pregnant and lost the baby.

[quote]Chubby Contessa

I noticed in the London episode she rarely ate anything in front of the camera.

The TV comany probably think it's not a good idea to see her stuffing her gob.

Even though she kept saying how gorgeous and wonderful everything looked. She took a cheesy stick and gave it to Jeffrey a little later.

But you can bet sure as hell when the camera was off...

Everyone here agrees we like Ina Garten much more than that CONFEDERATE CLOWN- Paul Dean.

Everyone here likes her very much. She's a sweetheart.

Whom do DL people like more Ina or Martha?

r416, saying most women want children is quite a sweeping statement. Are you male or female? Where do you get your data?

Actually, Martha has mellowed with age and I'm dying to see her Maine house. But I like both for different reasons.

R416 is correct. End of story.

[quote]Where do you get your data?

He lives in the real world.

I was watching one of Martha's shows one day several years ago. She was outside with a queen making a Christmas wreath. Martha was doing it bareback(no gloves on her hands) while her gay male friend had on these work gloves. I just found that amusing.

[quote]Whom do DL people like more, Ina or Martha?

Martha. I canceled cable, and Martha moved to create tv. I actually like them equally, but Martha is available to me. Even more than either of them, I enjoy Lucinda Scala Quinn, formerly Martha Stewart's Executive Director of Food, who branched out with a show, three cookbooks, and a line of cookware and utensils called Mad Hungry. Check out @madhungry on Instagram. Lucinda's IG stories are the best cooking show in existence today.

I also love Martha Stewart because she has Thomas Joseph on her shows.

^ His food looks disgusting.

r417 They don't have turmeric or yellow onions in the UK? Isn't turmeric common in Indian cuisine?

It seems they do, R437. I found it quite easily.

But no yellow onions.

r417 Yellow onions. What are they called in London?

Actually, it seems "yellow onions" are what we call just onions.

Now I have to make the bloody soup.

"Whom do DL people like more Ina or Martha? "

Ina, who is relaxed and mellow on camera. It gives her show that "comfort food for the brain" feeling.

Martha Stewart tries to look relaxed and mellow on camera, but the fact is she's not a mellow person and is always one step away from losing her temper. Of course all the little episodes where Martha starts to tense up when things don't go right the first time and she's about to bite someone's head off do give her a certain camp appeal that Ina lacks, but not as much as Sandra Lee used to have. I do miss that bitch.

I also had a problem figuring out "half and half".

Yellow onions are stipulated to distinguish them from white and red onions, all of which are usually available in US supermarkets. Is that not the case in the UK? (We also have Vidalia onions, which are usually sweeter.)

I'm not sure what half-and-half would translate to. I know British recipes sometimes mention "light cream," which is unknown in the US. Would that be the same thing?

I'm not sure if half 'n' half is the same as British "light cream." Half 'n' half is what a lot of people put into coffee, if that helps.

R436 but his hole is divine.

Ina is childless by choice and Martha spawned one of the worst cunts this side of Melissa Rivers. But you can see it on their shows. Ina puts thought into her presentations with kids but doesn't relate to them well at all. Martha seems like that stern Elementary school teacher who wants you to do the exercise perfectly but really cares about the kids. It's odd because Martha is publicly considered the bitch, Ina the mother but their shows refute that.

But yes, let's get back to Ina's falling out with Barbara.

Ina's interactions with her "friends" on the show are more believable than most. At least most of Ina's pals are from her own age group and social milieu, and they interact fairly natural on camera.

As opposed to Giada DeLaurentis and her "friends", who are clearly awkward strangers who've been roped into this for reasons that are not clear. So almost every episode of Giada's shows end with Giada grinning madly at a bunch of non-professionals who sit there like deer caught in the headlights! They really ought to spend an extra few bucks to get out of work actors to play the friends, I assume they're dragging in the relatives of the camera crew or anyone who happened to walk down the street.

Half & half is equal parts whole milk and heavy cream. Used primarily as coffee creamer. Light cream is the same in the US and the UK, cream with some of the fat skimmed off.

Her production team are really running out of ideas. I guess there are only so many $200 cheeseboards one can arrange.

I decided to get half-fat creme fraiche for my Corn Chowder. I tend to use that in soups anyway. It will have to do.

She also uses bacon in her recipe, but she means American style bacon which you can't get here, so I won't be using that. Anyway, I hate adding meat to vegetable soups.

Whatever you do, R452, don't you dare have fun without her.

*nervous laughter*

This is only my second time trying to make Corn Chowder.. The last time I got the recipe from Linda McCartney's cookbook and the recipe didn't work. There was too much corn. A mouthful of corn in every bite. It was terrible. But I'm trusting Ina. Though - she says you add the (frozen, in my case) corn at the end and cook for ten minutes. Can you really cook frozen corn in ten minutes?

Ina displays all the signs of someone who was molested.

[quote] So almost every episode of Giada's shows end with Giada grinning madly at a bunch of non-professionals who sit there like deer caught in the headlights! They really ought to spend an extra few bucks to get out of work actors to play the friends, I assume they're dragging in the relatives of the camera crew or anyone who happened to walk down the street.

LOL

I'm watching a thing on her now on YT.

She would have been a lovely mother.

Such a shame! Such a waste!

I don't know, R458...

I liked a bit on one of the recent episodes where she was getting something from the oven and then slammed the door closed with her knee. It was like that episode of MTM where Sue Ann has her souffle ruined and then bangs the oven door closed with her knee.

R460, She's really loosened up in the last 2 seasons and doesn't take herself so seriously. She was putting ketchup on individual meatloafs in a recent episode and the bottle was making farting noises and Ina made a "yuck" face and apologized for the unappealing noises. She never would have done that in earlier years.

Good gravy, r461, she doesn't make her own ketchup?! I am truly shocked.

She's confident enough to do these sorts of things now.

R455 , I think it's fine to put the corn in at the end (of cooking your corn chowder). You can actually eat fresh corn raw and it will taste good, so 10 minutes should be more than enough.

I guess you're right, R464. Thanks for the advice.

Actually just watching Ina on YT and she said, to this day, she's always nervous when she cooks stuff - nervous it won't turn out. She's so cute.

I made the roasted shrimp orzo salad the night before last because of this thread. I halved the recipe but I think it still cost about $25-30. It was delicious and it's a keeper. I still have like 2lbs of it in the fridge since there's only 2 people eating it. I think I'll make the corn chowder next. I refuse to make Martha recipes; I'll read them but that's it. Her home products are crap, too.

Martha’s baking recipes are excellent r466. Her regular recipes, apart from what Big Martha passed down to her, are uneven.

I tried Martha's American Pancake recipe and it was horrible. I never forgave her for that. In fact, that was the first time I asked DL how to make anything. SO long ago I was nervous, wondering if I could do such a thing. LOL. Anyway, it worked out very well. Got about 50 responses. I incorporated many of them and now make the best American pancakes in the whole of England. Of this, I have total confidence.

I like Martha better, but Ina has better recipes IMO.

The different types of cream.

[quote]I made the roasted shrimp orzo salad the night before last because of this thread. I halved the recipe but I think it still cost about $25-30.

Why was it so expensive?

Do Ina's gays live out there in The Hamptons or does she bus them in for the show?

I'm sure Rob Marshall lives whever he wants.

London.

I've discovered this:

UK IngredientstUS Ingredients

Double CreamtHeavy Cream

[bold]Single Cream (or substitute half milk and half single cream – most people just use cream)Half and Half[/bold]

Skimmed MilktNon-fat milk

Semi-Skimmed MilktReduced Fat Milk

So, I need to go out again and buy some single cream for Ina's chowder recipe.

Does Ina have ANY gurlfriends on the show - or are ALL her friends gay men?

who is this with Ina?

She's started having more celebrity friends on the show like Jennifer Garner who's already been on twice.

Does Ina have any female friends anymore? She's made a big thing in the press about how Jeffrey is her whole life.

I don't think she has any super close friends, other than Jeffrey. She recently admitted that she spends all her time in her kitchen developing and testing recipes with her two assistant ants.

I wonder what the upstairs of her home, not the barn, looks like. I'll bet she and Jeffery have separate bedrooms. Although I don't think she spends much time, at least in winter, in the Hamptons. She has an expensive apartment in Manhattan with a stove that cost around 20 grand and a place in Paris and who knows what else.

I just read that Jeffrey Garten Ina's husband is a rich bitch. He' s worth $100 million dollars. I didn't know he was so loaded.

He's got nothing on me, in dick size or money.

[quote] Does Ina have ANY gurlfriends on the show - or are ALL her friends gay men?

[quote] Does Ina have ANY gurlfriends on the show - or are ALL her friends gay men?

I've been watching her shows on DVR here in England and as I already posted I haven't been familiar with her at all until now.

Again on this show I saw, three gays come round for a barbeque...and again I make the point, they're such dreary gays! Not a joke between them.

And, MY GOD - her recipes are SO calorific! No wonder she's so fat.

[quote] Does Ina have ANY gurlfriends on the show - or are ALL her friends gay men?

Did ya'll know that Loaves and Fishes Anna Pump got run over by a truck in 2015? I don't recall reading or hearing anything about that, Poor Anna. She was 81.

Wow, R487. That's unbelievable. She seemed like a nice old gal on the show.

I hope it was a really GOOD truck.

Ree is a Reepublican.

How do fraus like Ree keep managing to snag men so far out of their league. His family is hugely wealthy.

I see it all the time and they are one of the worst cases.

Who's Ree?

Wow another posting about Ina and its almost 500 response. Do datalounger have a love-hate relationship with her?

R491, hardly a worst case. Ree's father was an orthopedic surgeon and she went to USC where she was a Pi Phi. Notable sisters include DL fav Babs Bush and Faye Dunaway.

And now Ree is rich on her own.

We definitely missed the news about Anna Pump! I had no idea.

R485, she has a baked shrimp scampi recipe that I love, but I have been ordered by my partner to never make it again because it has too much butter. And I'd halved the butter used in the recipe already!

Loved the early ep where she had Anna over for lunch, dumped her in the living room with her large art books and went back to prep the lunch while poor Anna was forgotten.

What happened to Dwyer? Kind of liked her. She paid Ina back for a 'staged' dinner emergency by bringing Chinese to her.

R496, to hell with your partner. So let him not eat any of it. Do you actually only eat what your partner allows you to eat? If so you're in a very toxic relationship. If I were you I'd put a stick of butter on my plate right in front of him and have it for your meal, with an entire loaf of Italian bread. If your the one who cooks he either eats what you cook or he cooks for himself or goes hungry. Grow a pair!

R497, ha, who could forget that one. She just happened to have the camera crew there when Ina called her saying she was going to make dinner for her.

Has Ina ever had any Asian American or black friends on the show? The closest to Asian was the adopted daughter of a friend. She has had some Latinos, including one who did the flowers. Her world in the Hamptons is where the colored people know their place. Despite the jabs at Ree, Ina's show has a similar exclusivity.

[quote]Has Ina ever had any Asian American or black friends on the show?

Why don't you write in and suggest something?

r500 Ree has had African-Americans on several times -- once with Ladd's college friends, and a few times with the boys' friends or football teammates.

Ree went to USC so she was definitely around a lot of minorities.

Here in England - I'm confused cos they're running series 2 and series 8 on different channels.

But it's good. Because I have a whole lot of catching up to do...and then I won't have to keep posting questions here on the DL.

The last one I watched (from series 2) she had a young-ish a hetero couple over. They'd won some competition for a lunch with her. She was clearly not happy sitting there with them (way out of her comfort zone) - even though she toasted them as her new friends, you knew she'd never see them again.

I always thought Ina Garten was a made-up DL character like Cheryl.

They showed Ree walking from the truck into the house on a new episode yesterday, and I swear she's fatter than Ina now. Her hips have gotten so wide that I feared she wouldn't make it through the door.

She's always had a girlish figure, but no more.

r505 makes shit up.

R500, honey, it's set in the Hamptons!

And IMHO the fact that most of Ina's friends are white and over fifty makes it seem like they might actually be people she knows in real life, which gives the show more authenticity than Giada's random terrified strangers who show up at the end of every episode.

R508, isn't that what I said? Her world in the Hamptons. It's similar to Ree's world in Oklahoma. After all, this is an "I love to hate Ina Garten" thread.

I just googled her. Ina Garten is a frau!

R510, shouldn't you be posting and masturbating at the Shawn Mendes thread?

DL queens wouldn't love Ina SO much if she wasn't so chubby and amiable.

Why not, we love Martha?

England here, back again.

I'm watching another early show and wanted to report back because I'd been saying how dreary her gay friends seem to be. Well, today's gay is ADORABLE.

"my friend, Michael, from Bridgehampton Florist"

He's wearing the yellow shirt.

You guys will probably say he's not gay, but I think he is.

Younger Michael.

Is he different from Miguel? Isn't he a florist too?

[quote]DL queens wouldn't love Ina SO much if she wasn't so chubby and amiable.

Uh, this is DL --- those things are reasons for people to hate her more.

Silly Gurl.... Miguel designs tablescapes. Flowers? No!

Miguel and friend.

They look like more typical Ina gays.

Ina should wear more navy. It suits her.

I love to hate Ina Garten

FN legacy casualties: Nigella Lawson, gone; Ellie Krieger, gone; Sandra Lee, gone; Sunny Anderson, gone; The Neeley's, gone; Aida Mollenkamp, gone; Claire Robinson, gone; Robin Miller, gone; Rachel, gone; Emeril, gone; Mario, gone; Paula, gone; yet Ina's FN shows continue to empower FN ratings.

(Giada's current FN show: only because of her last name. Her FN shows' longevity is astonishing per the rumors.)

Sunny is not gone. She's on The Kitchen.

^ Sunny's show is lonnnng gone.

Rachel moved to another network and a hugely popular show. Not my taste, but a FN loss.

We must continue the Ina Garten thread once this one fills up.

Michael, the florist, went home before she served the breakfast. He had stuff to do. Ina gave him a good old hug and he left.

Two hetero couples came for the barbeque breakfast, which felt a bit strange. One of them was Bob Benton who directed Kramer Vs Kramer.

Novice cook, here: the most important cooking tip I've learned from Ina's cooking shows: salt and pepper ratio = 2:1. When accurately achieving this ratio, the accompany herbs and spices are able to do their magic, in any recipe.

The most important thing I've learned from Ina's shows:

Make sure to add coffee to anything you're making with chocolate in it!!!

It must be important since she reminds you ever single time.

She adds good course mustard to her creamy sauces. Which I sometimes do, but will probably always do now.

[quote] Well, today's gay is ADORABLE. / "my friend, Michael, from Bridgehampton Florist" / He's wearing the yellow shirt. / You guys will probably say he's not gay, but I think he is.

I doubt that anyone has ever said that Michael's not gay. And he's definitely adorable.

Winking at r285.

Photos of Ree looking fatter than Ina please.

R498, you're off complaining about Ina using "ketchup with HFCS and Crisco canola oil instead of non GMO canola oil" but my partner not wanting to eat six tablespoons of butter in his entree is abusive?

You're so bad at trollbait. Good lord, that's embarrassing. No wonder you got caught trying to start off-topic arguments to derail threads last week.

I remember that episode, R504 -- she really is not good with strangers. She's probably more shy than anything, or maybe has been burned too many times in the past, but I was surprised she even agreed to the contest considering how stiff and uncomfortable she was.

I agree with those who say Ina's show is like comfort food. Her recipes are actually quite good but it's true about the cost. I made her country post roast recipe. He requires leeks and sun-dried tomatoes and not alot of both. It was quite expensive to buy these 2 ingredients that are really that versatile. I must add - I do not care for SDTs.

I think the reason she emphases GOOD ingredients is because of the fucking simpletons who fuck up her recipes and then low rate them. My theory is that you make it exactly as directed the first time so that you know what works for you and what doesn't.

The dolts that rate her recipes 1 -3 stars are the idiots who post things like, "I made the Duck a l'Orange recipe but didn't have enough oranges so I used grapefruit/lemon/lime. The recipe didn't taste as orangy as I thought it would." The idiots don't shop for ingredients; they improvise on their own.

FN fixed their website so you can reply to the morons that give a recipe 1 star, because they didn't use correct ingredients. Or even worse, sounds too hard so didn't make this. One star!

I've never understood people who say a recipe failed and therefore it's bad... and then later revealed that they substituted, halved, and doubled about 3/4 of the ingredients on the list and also decided to cook it for less time.

Didn't Ina also not want to meet Jennifer Garner? Or was that something else entirely?

She's not even my favorite Ina.

Honestly, women (for the most part) can't cook.

And BC has to be the whitest show on TV.

[quote]And BC has to be the whitest show on TV.

I wish this "white" thing would fuck the hell off.

I'm still catching up here in London.

She went to the 20th anniversary of her gaypal florist's shop, Michael, the one I like so much, yesterday. He's such a sweetie. She made him a surprise chocolate cake with very tall candles (he was thrilled, I would have been too) and a bunch of other stuff.

[quote]And BC has to be the whitest show on TV.

Which is so awful. White people, as we all know, can not cook.

Part of the problem is that Ina is Jewish.

What she needs to do is to invite some Shinnecock people over. She needs someone from Lebanon to show her how delicious cilantro is in falafel. And Thailand and India.

Her food can be too Eurocentric. And, being fat, she'd benefit from reducing dairy.

[quote]Her obnoxious gay entourage (my favorite is the older queen who owns the flower shop).

I hadn't noticed OP's reference to Michael.

How convenient that all her gay friends do things like own flower shops, bakeries, are food photographers, former lifestyle magazine editors...

TR might be a grasping attention-whore but I wouldn't be surprised if things went a little deeper than that.

I'm Jewish and Ina and Jeffery are like me and my parents and the Jewish people I grew up with. We ate pork, bacon was a Sunday breakfast must. We ate shellfish and just about every kind of food there was. That is the typical American Jew. Most were reformed and unless they told someone they were Jewish or their name was a giveaway they were just ordinary Americans.

Reformed Jews are not thrilled about the ones who walk around with long beards and black coats and women with wigs. They find they just as strange to their standard American lifestyle as non Jews might find them.

We would go to our reformed (everything done in English) on the big two holidays, Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur. That was our only exposure to the religious aspect of being Jews.

My guess is there is some synagogue they belong to and only go on the big two.

Like Ina there were a few Jewish foods we liked like and usually got ours from a good deli, like chopped liver, stuffed cabbage, pastrami and stuff like that. So Ina usually cooks her own, good for her, bet though she does not buy Kosher liver or chicken.

We, actually were not chicken people. My grandmother would make chicken for Friday night but in my parents house Friday night was for going out and having Italian or Chinese.

BTW, we are NYC, not Hampton people.

I made the Corn Chowder. As suggested by someone here, I halved all the measurements. It's still massive and fills my Le Creuset casserole (I think this is what YOU call a Dutch oven) right to the top. God knows how people who follow her recipe as is, cope. This should serve 5-6 people. Double that with some left over.

Another flaw, she says simmer the potatoes for 10 minutes - in which universe do potatoes cook in 10 minutes?

There's way too much cream and the added cheddar cheese is unnecessary. She tends to do this. Next time I try this I'll strip it right down.

But it does taste nice.

and I still love her. I'd be one of her gays in a flash.

R547, I think Ina and Jeffrey are stereotypical Jews with a Christmas Tree.

One of the reasons Ina has so many Bitchy, Queeny gay males on her show is because women, STRAIGHT women enjoy seeing those type of stereotypical gay males. If he was ten years older ELIJAH from GIRLS would make the perfect guest for an episode of Barefoot Contessa.

Tomorrow, on FN, is a 2 1/2 or 3 hour Barefoot marathon, starting at 10 am.

She must read Datalounge because on her show about vanilla, she said she knows it's become a bit of a joke but using "really good vanilla" really is better. I assume Jeffrey introduced her to us.

Or Michael. Wouldn't it be funny if Michael were the "experienced baker"?

I'm surprised she hasn't marketed her own "really good" foodstuffs.

She has, r554. Frozen stuff. It quickly disappeared.

On another show she closed the oven door and it made a noise and she smiled and said, "Boy, what a loud oven door." She reads us.

Does she even have her frozen foods line anymore? I haven't seen them in the grocery store in a couple years. They were overpriced.

I don't think her baking mixes are popular anymore, either. Again, overpriced.

She sells the "really good" stuff here.

Yeah, her boxed mixed were wildly overpriced. They used to sell them at Williams-Sonoma, but they were even too high-priced for their customers.

mixes, not mixed.

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Now that you mention it, I do remember her food line! How weird--it must have been terrible marketing.

Or it must have been terrible food.

Lookalike on the packaging? Uh there's a slim dark haired lady and she looks nothing like pudgy Ina.

The box mixes at W-S were fine, but definitely overpriced.

She also had a line of frozen foods. I remember trying the shrimp scampi with linguine and it was pretty good. She had some others but I don't remember what they were.

r566 see r561