Careers Ruined by #MeToo - Dustin Hoffman

Well, Hoffman is over 80, so he was probably planning to slow down anyway.

He got away with shit for decades. At 80, time was definitely up for him.

I have no sympathy for this asshole.

It's my Sicilian curse; he's been lulled into a false sense of security for decade after decade. And now...BAM! Career over.

I know a woman he pawed more than once while she worked on one of the films he was in, back in the 80s. He wanted to be invited to the woman's apartment. This was not between his marriages, either. He was already married to his second wife.

He's been with his second wife since 1980, so has she known about his activities with other women?

Only himself to blame really.

Awesome actor who's a creepy horndog too.

It’s not like he’s been burning up the screen lately anyway.

Jill Messick, manager of RM aka the Noble Bald One, who committed suicide after RM publicly scapegoated her for the whole Harvey thing. For all her fierce woke feminism, RM just loves scapegoating other women, just look at how she still rambles on about Meryl.

Whoops, misunderstood the headline. I thought we were listing careers ruined by me too, not just Hoffman. My bad.

Who the fuck is RM?

Clue: a thorn by any other name....

R11 data lounge won't let me write her name. Picture a bald activist, who at one point lived a "charmed " existence but now spends all her time criticizing people on twitter. Some of those grievances are legit, some are not.

I thought maybe the RM troll has died... sigh.

Rita Moreno, R11.

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Ryan Seacrest sailed through his accusations. I haven't heard anyone even mention them in regards to him.

Al Franken

Talking about R*se M*G*wan and JM is a sure way to get a thread shut down. I wish the RM/JM troll would stop.

Or I guess they're trying to shut down the thread on purpose, who knows.

I started the thread because Hoffman is a legendary actor who has worked continuously for 55 years. And then his career ends without any media comment on it at all. It's just over.

But as others have said he can only blame himself.

Who js JM?

For the most part, metoo is ridiculous.

R21, see R9

Jesus, stop answering the "who's this? who's that?" troll. If they can't follow a conversation, fuck 'em.

The last thing I heard about Hoffman was when Bill Murray said something like "sure he's a flirt, but he's decent."

But he was already out of the Medici show before this happened, because the 2nd season was set in the future, and prior to that he wasn't doing much work anyway. Not since 2014, really. It's been mostly voiceover work since.

Ive been critical of certain aspects of me too, but for Hoffman, zero sympathy. I cried listening to one of his victims. He was really awful, and arrogant. Plus, he had a fine career. Bye bye Dusty.

Thanks, r23.

Go fuck yourself, r24, cause lord only knows nobody else will.

Spacey duh

Weinstein.

I loved 'Tootsie', and when DH made that movie he talked and talked in interviews about how 'aware' he had become about finally realizing how men really treat women, and how much sympathy he gained for women. Too bad it was bullshit.

R30, Teri Garr wasn't impressed by those comments.

"They put a man in a dress, and he's supposed to know what it feels like to be a woman. But of course he doesn't. I think what Dustin [Hoffman] says is, "I realize now how important it is for a woman to be pretty. And I wasn't pretty." God! That's all you realized? Jesus Christ. Oh well. Don't quote me. Actually, quote me."

Yeah, I've always heard that Dustin Hoffman was one of the biggest assholes in Hollywood and recall the rumor that one of the makeup people on "Tootsie" quit in a huff one day because of how nasty he was to her. (She allegedly cursed him out before leaving, however, lol.)

He famously slapped Meryl during their first filmed scene of KRAMER VS KRAMER because he didn't think she would give the right performance unless he hit her.

One of the weirdest interviews I ever saw with Hoffman was on Charlie Rose. At the time, I had no clue what both of them had in common. They were talking about friendships with women. Hoffman turned morose and started crying (!), claiming he had deep regrets about all the women he ignored and tuned out during his life because he wasn't sexually attracted to them. He admitted on TV that he disregarded any female he didn't want to sleep with. Of course, he claimed he'd changed and gross Charlie Rose seemed to pat him on the back. The whole interview made my skin crawl. Now I know why.

TO R17..Ryan Semenquest is a "BIG HOMO" She still wants to make people believe she is "str8" and likes PUSSY Who is that QUEER FOOLING?i I want to now how much Miss Ryan paid her? What a Gay Moron....SAD FAG

Some of Hoffman's best acting was done in his interviews.

R34, that Charlie Rose interview with Hoffman talking about women does sound weird.

He was also handsy with men, too.

R38 does he swing both ways?

DUSTIN HOFFMAN WAS OUT-OF-WORK BEFORE #MeToo!

Dustin was an incredible pig during his heyday and I'm glad that hasn't been swept under the rug. That said, I hated the way John Oliver went after him at whatever panel that was. I thought it was completely inappropriate and he was so smug and self-righteous that I can't stand him now either.

Oh, how awful that a wealthy, famous sex creep isn’t working in his 80s. This is the shit that bothers you today?

I really wish baby boomers would all just drop dead tomorrow.

Uck Fay Im Hay

Creepy little piglet eyes.

Good.

I hated Tootsie and Kramer vs. Kramer. But, Dustin Hoffman was brilliant in The Graduate.

I wish he wasn't revealed to be such a perv.

Time for a Bernie Focker movie :-)

There was gossip -- I probably read it on DL -- that they canceled the HBO series 'Luck', that Hoffman was the star of, because he had a drinking problem. He couldn't function and the network pulled the plug.

And that was 2012.

Career still dead.

He's overrated.

I love Tootsie and Rain Man but Hoffman is an asshole.

It's like Constance Wu. Your shitty behaviour is going to catch up to you. With her, it was sooner than later, unlike Hoffman, who won 2 Oscars and collected multiple pay checks.

He and Emma Thompson were in a cheesy romantic comedy about ten years ago. It was watchable because of their performances.

I'm not quite sure that Hoffman's career was ruined by me too, the allegations occurred long after his hey day had gone by. I don't recall them being mentioned as often as the accusations against other famous men either.

[quote] Don't quote me. Actually, quote me

I can hear that whole speech in Terri's (pre-illness) voice. That would have made a great scene.

R33, he's lucky Kate Jackson didn't get that role then.

Oh, puh-LEEZ, R33, you're talking about M! To paraphrase Flannery O'Connor, she'dve been a good woman, if somebody had been there to shoot her every day of her life.

R55 Fun fact. You're wrong because the reason Kate was in heavy contention for the role at that time is she was dating Hoffman.

He can be very good. But he seems very aware he's a good actor. That ruins him for me.

Will he be seeing Tootsie on Broadway?

Julia Roberts attended a performance of Pretty Woman.

R46, What about "Midnight Cowboy"?

Wasn't Geoffrey Rush's career ruined?

Hate him. Have always hated him. He’s a nightmare to work with and an ugly shithead midget to boot. Fuck hum.

*him

I thought everybody realized Dustin was pretty much playing himself in the early part of Toosie. The impossible to work with actor who always thought he knew best and consequently everybody hated to be around.

Laurence Olivier scoffed at his method acting during the filming of "Marathon Man".

Hoffman stayed awake for 24 hours just so he could play the scene where his character stays awake for 24 hours. Olivier's response was, "It'd be so much easier if he just acted it."

Dustin Hoffman is a fantastic actor and he's had a brilliant career. My opinion of his talent hasn't changed, but I can no longer admire him the way I used to. Just depressing.

But he’s so schticky. I remember him doing exposition in Stranger than Fiction and doing this over the top eating/furiously spooning yoghurt/trying to distract from having to spell things out to the audience. He’s so tiresome.

The fact that Kate Jackson once dated Dustin Hoffman is the most surprising thing I've heard all week.

How utterly fucking random.

I've always been creeped out by his teeny-weeny piggly eyes. They seem too small for his head.

He has an Italian film in post-production on IMDb.

Weren't pretty much all the male actors of Hoffman's generation behavior in very similar ways? Much has changed culturally in the last 30 or 40 years . I'm not sure any man who worked in the entertainment industry during that time didn't make at least a few untoward advances . Was there really anyone who came out of that era completely clean?

Gene Hackman and Robert Duvall were friends with Hoffman as they started their acting careers at the same time. I don't recall any bad stories about Duvall, and Hackman's bad reputation is more to do with being difficult with directors.

I laugh at the self righteous on this board. Hoffman never raped or assaulted anyone. Innapropriate touching is not nice, but how many people on here, especially on the gay scene have never groped someone's bum etc especially when drunk? I know I have.

I've had my ass groped by gay men in bars all the time.....and a few times by women . IT annoyed me but it's just part of life snowflakes.

r75 = Jew

R76=shitstain

I'd love to know how many guys on here have groped a guy without consent. My guess is a lot.

Career ruined? He’s almost 80.

Dustin Hoffman is an entitled little pig who has groped and assaulted women on his various jobs for decades and everyone in the business knows it. None of which has anything to do with the #MeToo movement. He did it all on his own.

R80 who did he assault, and how? Please back up with evidence.

I can’t believe his defenders have shown up to protect his honour. He’s 80, he got away with it for his entire career. If he never works again it probably makes no difference to him. He got away with it, isn’t that enough for you?

About time, too! The guy is ancient!

What did he do? Apart from touch a few boobs?

R73, Hoffman and Hackman were roommates in NYC.

He's not "almost 80." He'll be 82 in August.

He does have one film "Man in the Labyrinth" waiting for release. Asshole though he is, he did have a long and distinguished career, with two Oscars, and if nothing else comes up for him, it's not exactly a disaster for him.

The me too movement has done more harm than good. It has gotten to be ridiculous. When Al Frankin lost his job, that was absurd and I will never vote for Gillibrand because of it.

Actually it’s done nothing much r87, the perverts are still behaving badly. Except for some old men hollywood was dying to kick out the door anyway, which allowed people in power to exploit the me too movement as an excuse to kick them to the curb , it’s business as usual.

He was beautiful in The Graduate.

[quote]No projects in development. After 55 years, his career is seemingly over.

It's fascinating that for a lot of these folks whose careers have been decimated by their behavior that many comments focus on "after 55 years" or "after a lifetime of..." without noting that had their terrible behavior been made known at the time it occurred, their long and storied careers wouldn't have been either.

Take Cosby. If his drugging and raping of women had been known in the 60s or 70s, the criminal justice system was not kind to black men who were (and some who weren't) rapists. He certainly would never have been allowed to create and star in a family show like The Cosby Show. He would have been a forgotten footnote who voiced Fat Albert.

Good.

Also: So what?

[quote]When Al Frankin lost his job

Franken didn't lose his job. He was scapegoated out of it by the Dems with Gillibrand leading the mob.

Didn’t one of the women claim his finger penetrated her no-no?

"The me too movement has done more harm than good."

The men who think they can act like douches and never be held accountable have done and continue to do harm. Without them, metoo wouldn't exist. But, by all means, blame the women cause that makes sense to you, apparently.

Cosby was already a star from I Spy before The Cosby Show, but sure, he wouldn't have got that either if his actions had been known before 1965.

So they enabled his rapes out of guilt.

M deserved what she got from him.

[quote]who did he assault, and how? Please back up with evidence.

Oh look -- Jewish court, again.

So many men feel so entitled to try the goodies. Oh, and that's regardless of race.

[quote] Cosby was already a star from I Spy before The Cosby Show, but sure, he wouldn't have got that either if his actions had been known before 1965.

NBC wouldn't have given him a sitcom if they hadn't been desperate for a Top 10 ratings hit. They already had a bunch of sitcoms that ranked in the middle of the Nielsen Ratings by that point and some Emmy-winning dramas, so those kept them from going under altogether. But their only other Top 10 hit was [italic]The A-Team[/italic], and every new fall show the year before [italic]Cosby[/italic] was a flop, and NBC's Thursday night sitcoms — they let [italic]Fame[/italic] go to first-run syndication — were regularly coming in second to CBS's dramas.