Gen Z is not interested in sex

They are not interested in anything other than cellphones.

They're the ones trying to ban porn on college campuses.

Obviously they aren't talking about Gen Z in the UK.

A new puritanical era.

Boring idiots.

They're the first generation to dress like and listen to the same music as their parents. 'Nuff said.

Tide Pod generation

too much porn?

The lovely children of Gen X.

No coping ability. Whiny brats.

What's wrong with them?

Their nagging, whiny parents, R11.

Good for them?

Gen Z are the children of Boomers and old GenX, i.e. Generation Jones. Their parents were on average older than in previous generations.

R6 well there’s nothing wrong with that.

But being a teenager and young adult without sex and drugs? Wtf is the point?

Oh dear, R14! Gen Z are 21 and under. Their parents are largely in their 40s.

I don't understand their disinterest in sex and partying, but won't judge them negatively for it either.

They lack any ability to communicate.

I think our species dying out is good for our fellow living beings on the planet. Or at least we need to be seriously culled. The disinterest in sex is not a bad thing.

R6, what about millennial "punks"?

ironically, the worst qualities of gen z are what gen x has been complaining about for awhile now.

and the very worst millennials, the "snowflakes" at the very tail end of the spectrum, are the ones who have gen x parents.

It's been like this for, like, forever that, in general, the present generation shifts in the opposite direction of the previous one. Sex positive vs. sex negative, conservative vs. liberal, etc.

The saturation of porn and sex can result in sex not being that satisfying anymore and instead of looking for ways to spice it up even more, some look for other ways to feel exited.

R23 gets it.

Also there’s more push to accept individual differences. In my day if you were introverted like me you had to pretend to like partying and dating to survive. If you couldn’t get laid you lied. The gen z kids loudly say they’re asexual. And of course for middle class white kids they received a sort of intense, helicopter parenting style where mom watched their every move and documented it on Facebook.

I like this article too and feel bad for the kids. It explains a lot.

I’m a millennial but being poor and rural parenting styles don’t change much from generation to generation so I felt like an outsider as soon as I went to a liberal arts college. I would say a major point made in the article that I’ve seen first hand in middle class people is the terror that they won’t do as less as their parents did. They’re already falling behind because by 25 their parents were married and on the property ladder and had a baby and a well paying job. So they’re having an identity crisis and turning to other labels and identity politics to give themselves value in the world. And I think my friends are devastated that they won’t be able to replicate their childhoods for their children if they have any. Lucky for me my childhood was devoid of any material comforts, we hadn’t a pot to piss in, so everything about adulthood has been an improvement. I’m underemloyed and will probably have a roommate forever but I do a happy dance seeing $15 an hour on my pay slip and if I have running hot water I’m already ahead of my parents.

The article I forgot to add!

[quote] I would say a major point made in the article that I’ve seen first hand in middle class people is the terror that they won’t do as less as their parents did.

"do as less"?

[quote] They’re already falling behind because by 25 their parents were married and on the property ladder and had a baby and a well paying job. So they’re having an identity crisis and turning to other labels and identity politics to give themselves value in the world.

Why does it have to come down to identity crisis? Maybe they just don't share the same values as their parents?

I'm not interested in sex with Gen Z, so it's all good.

Should have read do as well.

And r27 as I said it’s a very foreign culture to me and I’m just trying to understand. But no in general my friends and coworkers all want to be where their parents are. They bring it up all the time. Some of their parents have dipped into retirement funds or sold property to help them to move up the ladder. Maybe they don’t know themselves yet, maybe they want their parents approval. But they talk about it all the time and also get nostalgic about childhood in a way I can’t understand either. One girl said the other day she cries herself to sleep because her kids will never know Sundays by the pool and roaming around a big backyard. Everyone seemed to agree. So that clicks with me as to why so many of them listen to 90s music and get nostalgic whereas I think that’s not what happened before. Previous generations of young people went out and made new art rather than look back.

They would rather stay home and communicate on their phones

Paul Joseph Watson say Generation Z is more conservative than previous 2 generations. Reaction to liberal excess and liberal snowflakes.

By 20 I had arrived in New York with nothing but a tight leather dress and lucite mules. Is there anything else to add?

[quote] So that clicks with me as to why so many of them listen to 90s music and get nostalgic whereas I think that’s not what happened before.

I disagree. Things coming back in fashion (as in "retro") happened in fashion, music, entertainment, interior design, etc. all the time. Not just nowdays. And I am pretty sure it will happen in the future as well.

[quote] [bold] But no in general [/bold] my friends and coworkers all want to be where their parents are.

??????

[quote]They're the ones trying to ban porn on college campuses. @ R2

"The effort started at Notre Dame University in October, when [bold]80 male students[/bold] penned an open letter requesting a porn filter on the campus WiFi. Since then, lead letter-writer Jim Martinson said, he’s received emails [bold]from more than 40 students at other universities[/bold] who want to install a filter on their own campuses. "

The article was written in December which means they managed to get 40 more guys from the millions to back them up in two months. Which means barely anyone wants to ban porn. It's just some idiotic sex-haters or religious virgins trying to create a movement and totally failing.

Look at that horrible posture in R26. Kyphosis alert!

One young person in the thread, maybe even the entire board and you nitpick his posts because he’s a millenial.

R35 They sound like a bunch if incels.

I love it when posters insist that the actions of a few define an entire group or generation.

[quote]One girl said the other day she cries herself to sleep because her kids will never know Sundays by the pool and roaming around a big backyard.

And that shows what a sheltered self centered bigot she is. As if ONLY ONE type of lifestyle would make anyone happier. How does she know as happy as she was, there wasn't some other lifestyle that would've made her happier?

Does she think Amy Carter, Chelsea Clinton ,Obama's daughters or Baron Trump will say "Oh boo hoo, my kids will never know what it's like to grow up in a mansion with bodyguard, poor snowflakes?

That needs to be pointed out to brats like her.

I get a kick out of DL complaining.

The [bold]FACT[/bold] is that DLers would be the definition of overprotective helicopter parents!!

"Mary !! The world is a cesspool and my little Johnny would never be allowed to go out without my supervision."

[quote]I love it when posters insist that the actions of a few define an entire group or generation.

Completely ignoring things like class. I was going to say "and race," but race never gets ignored here.

The hormones in the food must be fucking them up.

For r21 - it may be a reaction against Republican ideology - "Do what I say" while "Do whatever I want" is their actual driving force.

Gen Z isn't having sex yet all those frankenfood fed boys have big cocks and huge blow job lips. They looked at triple ass fuck videos on their gadgets - no vag! - and think that's sex, so don't judge.

[quote] Reaction to liberal excess and liberal snowflakes.

I hope you're joking. They're the biggest snowflakes yet. Dying from food allergies and cooking fumes. It doesn't help their case or anybody's case that conservative idiots have been the ones predominantly getting knocked up and having kids. That's how you end up with an entire class of teens saluting Hitler. Idiot kids from idiot parents.

What R23 said. Every generation tends to counterswing a little bit from the other. Gen Z has lived in the shadow of millennials for years now. This is probably their way of making their own statement.

College age and high school kids not interested in sex is weird.

My nephew is 19,not bad looking,has a job and a car,yet spends 90% of his off time playing video games. He lives in a nice travel trailer in my brothers back yard,and shows absolutely no signs that he ever wants any of that to change. When I was his age Id already had enormous amounts of sex,had been all over the country,and partied like a rock star. He told me recently hes technically a virgin,and I was gobsmacked ! I commented on the fact that were I young in this age of social media Id be getting laid as much as humanly possible and he just shrugged and said "Meh". I should have told him "wait 20 years and you wont have to worry about anyone wanting you!"

This is the first generation who grew up with smart phones. Their parents are able to use technology to monitor their teenagers' actions live at all time.

I know people who demand their child immediately send them a selfie making a specific face or holding a random object so they know they're not lying about where they are and using an old selfie.

I had a coworker who knew her 14 year old was going to a friend's house after school, but the daughter didn't answer her texts and calls for half an hour, so her husband left work to drive over to the friend's house to find the daughter. Turns out her cell phone was dying, so she was charging on on airplane mode. She was grounded for 2 weeks because she was exactly where she told them she would be, but didn't answer her mother's texts in a timely manner.

Their parents are so worried about preventing their kids from drinking and doing drugs and having sex that they've created the first youth generation in the history of time who doesn't drink or do drugs of have sex.

What R50 said. Cellphones and constantly monitoring parents have kind of inhibited their ability to be typical teenagers up to no good.

FWIW, my 18 and 15 year old niece/nephew are VERY interested in sex, driving and drinking.

I guess they were thankfully spared a boring life.

R16, some Generation Z parents are in their 40s, but these parents in their 40s with kids who are roughly 15 to 21 were in their teens and 20s when they had kids.

Statistically there are far more parents of kids 15-21 who are in their 50s, i.e. Boomers or the oldest GenX.

[quote] Gen Z is not interested in sex

No wonder they all have anxiety and panic issues. They all need to get a load off.

As a millennial, I think Gen Z is pretty cool and I like their values

[quote]College age and high school kids not interested in sex is weird.

Young people today are all about anxiety issues. It's become their generation's identity. So it doesn't surprise me that they're scared of sex and socializing.

It's not that they are disinterested in sex, but they are scared of the social interactions required to obtain sex. They also have too much anxiety to go to social functions, and that explains why they're drinking less. But they are definitely smoking a lot of pot.

Where are people getting the anxiety thing from? I've never seen that

R57 From social media . They see all of the supposedly awesome lives their peers are having and it makes them feel inferior. So they dont even try.

We were gen Jones and when the Gen X kids started showing up, we noticed they were all marrying young and trying to establish themselves as old fashioned adults, something we rejected just as we rejected the hypocrisy of the Boomers re sex and drugs. so they held us in contempt..

Gen Jones enjoyed sex and drugs, without piling on political excuses.

Here's what they do

I guess this will be the generation that invents virtual reality sex or some kind of Star Trek holodeck since they can't interact with other live humans. It'll be good for us then, since we'll be able to get it on with whoever we want into our 90s. So, win/win ?

[quote] Gen Z has lived in the shadow of Millennials for years now. This is probably their way of making their own statement.

Really? I’m a ‘91 kid and don’t feel like I’ve had a thing to do with Gen Z, much less deliberately overshadowing them. The few Gen Z kids I know well have never given a shit about anything I’ve ever done or cared about subverting it, as far as I know. Gen Z just seem like slightly lazier, more boring, more twitchy pill-popping screenagers than we were. My Gen is accused of not ever making a statement of our own so I have no idea what to make of this theory either. Most days I wake up feeling like I did at 19 or 21 myself, so I relate to the feeling of youth still (though more with teen or College-aged characters from the past).

I will say that the fact my Gen Z cousins were babies or not even born during Y2K/nine-eleven - which I feel were generation-defining events - makes them feel like aliens or unknowns. Other than that I can’t see a difference. I just thought anyone older than 35 hated us equally and viewed us as one amorphous group.

One thought about the tech-addiction stuff; isn’t it an escape from the stifling family unit Boomers strived to imprison their kids in? I’ve always used Internet as an escape.

My sister has been running a youth hostel since the early 80s, and she says this is the lowest number of 18 to 21 year olds she has ever seen checking in, for what that's worth.

They don't seem interested in much of anything except cellphones.

If many humans born after 2000 isn't interested in sex, that's a great thing!

Hmmmmm. I think r65 is on to something. Could it be that technology will be the Great Equalizer for Mother Nature? That’s actually a fascinating idea to me, that our preoccupation with technology is so strong that it could decrease population.

So? I’m failing to care much about this. They won’t have families to become bored wastes of spaces and resources in suburbs? Ok, good. And who cares if they play games all day and live at home for years? Honestly, that’s no less noble than becoming a hedge fund manager who ruins people’s lives or something. Have at it kids (or don’t as it were).

World wide population is about to fall off the cliff. Developed Countries are not reproducing at replacement levels. Good for them. Things are better less crowded.

I work with a lot of people between 18 and 40. The older guys brag about how much they fuck (even the ones I know aren't getting any) The younger guys don't

Listen, if I had started my sexual exploration at 12 with the access to the most explicit, most personal adult sexual content possible, I probably would be over sex as well. I mean sex with another person requires so much work when compared to jacking of to some hot person (who isn't even porn star, just another person in their own room) laying about in your pajamas. Jacking off online doesn't require me to shower, trim my pubes, lose weight, or give a fuck about someone else's needs. Their sexual appetite is more than satiated. Sex with another person just becomes a more cumbersome way to get off. More work than it's worth. Of course here and there you wanna fuck someone, but its not the same drive it used to be for people.

And I'm not talking about porn. Porn involves actors, cameras, professionals faking a real connection through sex with each other. I can pull up Chaturbate now, scroll through 500 guys, find one hot one I am into and send him a shock through his ass that will make him convulse and cum harder than anything I will probably personally experience. I get to pick and chose who I want to have "sex" with, get off to. They seems to be all at my disposal. You find someone with few viewers and you can actually interact, talk to them, get them to do what you want. Real life, compared to that, is severely laking for most of these kids. And understandably so. I shoot my load, take a shower, and get on with my life.

How many times have you been home, playing at hooking up on Grindr, checking messages, exchanging pics, and then end up just jacking off to something online?

The interesting flip side is that developed countries populations will continue to decline because of access to this technology, while undeveloped countries, poor countries populations, will continue to explode.

However, I've noticed a lot of poorer countries using things like Chuaturbate to make money. There seems to be a preponderance of South Americans and Eastern European models available to play. I wouldn't be surprised if some of these kids parents are instructing them to go up to their room, turn on the cam and make some money for the family.

My ex is a teacher and, from what he says, the kids are VERY much into sex even very young. It may be they are so overexposed to porn, nothing excites them as they enter high school. They've probably done it all, or jack off all the time to pornhub, and play video games to excess and take all sorts of pills for ADHD. Is it any wonder they aren't into sex? Too much early porn/sex, addicted to phones/video games/addicted to ADHD pills= no interest in sex or drinking as they get older.

My ex teaches 5th-7th grade and says there is plenty of sex/pot smoking/vaping. Just last year, about ten 10/11 year olds were caught talking about having sex with each other at his school. They all admitted they were having sex. Some of the girls were older 12/13 but the boys were 10/11.

We are treating this like it's a bad thing. Maybe it's not bad or good. It just is

It isn't bad and yes, they seem a tad more conservative. These are indeed older Gen X, younger Boomer kids. Gen X doesn't seem to be great parents but the 37-49 Gen Xers seem better parents than older Gen Y (younger than 37)or older Gen X 50ish to 55 and younger Boomers.

R55, Although I'm older than you, I feel the same way.

I work with different age groups, mostly millenials, and they rarely check their work schedule and therefore, show up late, if at all. But it's rarely their fault, they'll say. Then who's fault is it? Our schedules are even texted, to us and you know they're on their damn phones all the time, so they received it but I guess their minds can't retain the information unless it's on Instagram.

The 18-21 year olds? They have been responsible and great to work with, even though I'm old enough to be their parent. The dynamic is interesting.

But overall, there are assholes/slackers from Every generation, which we all already know.

Life is expensive and young people don't have nearly the same freedom or privacy that past generations of young people did.

My nephews were raised in the suburbs. They have to drive. How else do you get around? Uber is an inconvenient and implausible option.

Gen zzzzzzzzzzzz. Maybe the Adderall has permanently affected them.

Y’all...

The kid on the right is major future douche.

[quote]World wide population is about to fall off the cliff.

The total fertility rate for the United States in 2017 continued to dip below what's needed for the population to replace itself, according to a new report from the National Center for Health Statistics. The total fertility rate for the United States in 2017 was 1,765.5 per 1,000 women, which was 16% below what is considered the level needed for a population to replace itself: 2,100 births per 1,000 women.

What will this do to my paternity tests and lie detectors shows?

So true very annoying. The ones on Grindr are the worse they only go on to fish for compliments. Never serious and never seem to want to chat. In fact it’s everyone 28 and under that seem to do this. Only guys over 30 seem to ever want to do stuff and even then you’re only lucky if they’re not married because if they are they don’t know how to proceed to hookup due to not having a place. And unfortunately majority of them are married or workaholics

Bullshit OP, every new generation is interested in sex, alcohol and pretty much anything else. It's such a joke how each previous generation does this, it sounds ridiculous. Kids today, blah de fucking blah...

You're too old for them anyway, R83.

I'm kind of glad to hear this because one of my grandsons seems to have to interest in men or women. He is the smartest person in my family (my father's and grandfather's IQ were both above 160) He has flunked out of 2 semesters of college so my daughter is not going to pay for him to go anymore. He has always hated school but I think it was because he was so bored. When he was in high school his psychics teacher said he was the smartest student he had ever had. ALL HE DOES is sit on the freakin' phone. He did do the game box thing but he beat the world champion 3x's and got bored so I think he stopped. (it was unregistered and he just stumbled upon him one night). He has no interest in anything except the phone. He always hated reading but reads everything he finds on his phone. So much knowledge that I hope and pray does not go to waste. He has a few friends that he will hang out with occasionally but most of the time he just stays at home.

Phone drones

My nephew is a senior in high school and he's practically the only one of his friends who has a driver's license. He doesn't seem very interested in booze or drugs (which is good since he's always the driver) but many of his friends do drink and/or get high and a couple, I was surprised to learn, are into dropping acid. One girl is in hot water right now for renting an airbnb on New Year's Eve and throwing a party that inevitably got of out of control. I don't know what kind of idiot would rent a place out to a high school student on NYE, but it was sort of refreshing to hear about kids from this anxiety-ridden generation engaging in typical teenage shenanigans, rather than, say, spending the night alone in their rooms snapchatting each other.

They never go out.

R88 See that’s what’s tough for kids I think. I’m late 20s but we were raised not be get in trouble, not to party blah blah and then when we try to live up to that and stay sober and work and keep our heads down we’re wrong too. And our elders switch and say we should be out partying to be “normal”. Mixed messages everywhere. Honestly I’m glad I’m ageing and no longer a young person because you can’t win for losing.

R85 I’m a millennial and getting nothing from my peers

I'm an old Millennial (mid-30s) and not surprised by this trend. Even in my generation a majority of my friends were slow to get their licenses and had limited interest in partying and alcohol. I was a shy young adult who enjoyed going to parties in college sometimes, and some of these friends would act disgusted if I came back kind of tipsy. The one major difference is the reported low interest in sex. My friends were definitely horny and wanted to get laid.

Like my friends did eventually, most of them probably will learn to drive eventually, because you really have to to live in over 90% of America.

[quote] I’m a ‘91 kid and don’t feel like I’ve had a thing to do with Gen Z, much less deliberately overshadowing them.

Not deliberately overshadowing them, but inadvertently so. Everything about them is less than what their elder millennial peers were doing at their age, and comparisons probably don't help. They're having less sex, engaging in less partying, less drinking. I guess you can argue that makes them more responsible, but I think over-parenting plays a hand in all of that.

Here’s the thing, if a teenager gets caught drinking and driving, or in possession, they are fucked for life. Everything they tell each other is recorded in perpetuity. It is a horrible, awful way to grow up. So of course they aren’t exploring, they’re too scared to, and how can you blame them? When I was in high school, we all drove under the influence every single day. We were all pulled over by cops in cars filled with pot smoke coming out the windows. One boyfriend crashed into an electrical pole, he was friends with the cops brother, they got him out of there. You could fuck up big time and NOT have huge consequences. We took that away from kids, so why be surprised when they’re boring?

Yeah yeah yeah, people were saying millennials weren't having sex and that sure the hell never was true.

R94 The constant surveillance is also arguably problematic. I have a nephew who is relatively like myself at his age (25 yr age difference) but we weren't taped everywhere we went, we could trespass without security footage biting us in the ashes among other things. He'd been in legal trouble for trespassing and having an iPhone geotagging him provided everything.

Also he has been in legal trouble for having recieved a dick pick from a friend of his who took the photo himself, the dick pick taker was charged with producing and distributing child porn and my nephew for possession of child porn. I remember coming home from school with PAGES of cocks drawn all over them (had a friend who was really creative with the notes she'd make in study hall). I know it was drawings vs photos, but do 13-14 year old boys think of nuance? Hell, he had a friend recently kill himself, 14 year old boy who'd hung himself! There's just too much at stake for any margin to screw up knowingly or not as ignorance does not make a valid defense. Technology being so far ahead of the law is another contributor to the problem.

The upsurge in alternative schooling is another problem in their lack of socialization, although technology has done the most damage.

Yes r96, I have similar stories in my circles too. Kids charged with child porn for exchanging nudie shots. I would be terrified to be a teenager. I mean, I was a criminal when I was a teen, most of my HS was, and we all (mostly) grew up to be productive members of society.

I’ve pulled so many kids out of crashed cars and I’ve had to make that gut wrenching call to the parents to tell them their kid was dead. Over a 15 year career I saw probably 500 young men zipped into body bags as a result of drunk driving/speeding/carelessness so I can understand why parents and law enforcement took a zero tolerance approach to drink driving. It’s not cheap to get onthe road either these days so that’s a factor for families too. There have been many positive changes and some negatives. That’s fairly normal from generation to generation.

There were like 5 episodes of BOY MEETS WORLD on this topic. So I guess it comes up every 2nd episode in GIRL MEETS WORLD.

I would agree with the above posters - they don't have much room for failure. Everything is documented and everything is seen as so damn important due to the hyper-competitive nature to get into universities.

I do think they need to limit internet and cellphone time. Yes, we used to hang out and talk on the phone for hours, but at least you were communicating with someone else in a real way.

But this is happening all over the world - Japan, S. Korea, Germany, Italy all have less than sustaining birth rates.

I don't want to tut-tut about them just yet - we'll see how everything develops and swings different ways in the future.

R96: The solution there is getting these psycho state's attorneys to stop prosecuting these stupid cases. Prosecutor discretion is the name of the game. So these poor kids get their lives ruined and put on a sex offender registry for having a pick of their own penis because of some loser who wants to run for re-election as being tough on sex offenders. I'm sorry but this issue really does piss me off, I'm 36 but you can bet if I had a picture phone at 14, my dick would be on it. Kids are stupid and shouldn't be punished for life because of it.

TOTALLY agreer101. When I was a teen and sexually active, I did all kinds of freaky things. It is unbelievable that we have tolerated kids being charged with petty crimes. The flip side is that I do agree a few posts up (body bag poster) that we have evolved on driving under the influence which is of course, a good thing. Again, we all drove wasted 24/7 when I was in high school. I have no idea how there weren’t more car wrecks and/or people injured.

The Bonfire podcast (on Comedy Central) did an episode about this last October, with Ari Shaffir & Bo Burnham guesting. If memory serves the hosts compared teen life of today to The Truman Show.

Weird little children afraid of life outside their phones.

Good. A healthier, more moral generation. They are starting to vote!

I have a youngest Y/oldest Z friend who swore off relationships and seemingly sex. Outright calling it 'monk'.

For Gen Z, the ones I know/see, I can imagine them being seemingly more competent and professional than Millennials but otherwise actually be more depressive, anxious, and later-life crises will hit them hard.

But it isn't really that Gen Z 'is not interested' in sex. It is that they're actually so bombarded (both voluntarily and not) with it that I feel a sort of Neo-Victorianism of people engaging in rather conservative traditionalist patterns while calling it something else. You can be gay, but a normal gay. Even queer, but a normal queer. Have affairs, but keep it in a certain way. Avert yourself from women, but call it MGTOW or don't even call it anything. Throw a party, but pretend it is actually going to be very civilized. This is a generation that is growing up to being the most watched by their environment than seemingly any previous one. Everything has a passive filter on top of it that looks good enough to their peers. You could say that is normal, but I think it was actually a trend with Boomer-to-Y gen youth that they wanted to diminish to destroy these filters (even if many hypocritically didn't, or even reinforced them). Gen Z, if we're counting older teens and maybe early 20s, seem to shrug and think this is just how it's gonna be.

As an irresponsible Millennial I appreciate many positive aspects of the (oldest) Gen Z I currently spend time with, but while I think the lazy Millennials will end up laughing about the world and just doing what they can about it (after being/besides the radical social activists and such), Gen Zers may already be set on a road of neurosis that they never had a real life at all. Insert some future tech disruptions and I can see derealization being a serious and wide mental health problem.

At least Millennials are more genuinely outgoing (even introverts). You don't know how useful that is until you're in a class/workplace with Gen Zers that all have their little visible or invisible issues with socializing. It isn't at 'studious Asian student stereotype' yet, but it might in the generation after. I've already found, as a Millennial that socializes with Gen Zers, that while some softly exclude or can't relate to me (I think some of that is because I'm gay, but sometimes it is simple and fine generation gap), others are outright starving for some time spent with someone who doesn't take life so apathetically (while professionally/etc, to be clear) as their peers. This gen is somewhat a paradox - the most open and liberal and all that, but their approach to it is closed off and I worry it may be building up a furious conservative wave decades from now, while I was previously more worried that my fellow Millennials would be the bigger concern.

Millennials could at least pretend their socially left fights were big and legitimate and important (and sure they often were), but Gen Z doesn't seem to quite know what to fight for, and well, that's a recipe for less passion, less romanticism, and less SEX.

And another thing to note is how many in Gen Z label themselves Asexual too. I think that environmentally caused, not genetically

what others have said. backlash against millennial excess of everything being about fun, sex, partying and hedonism. they wanna be different i guess.

Shawn Mendes certainly doesn’t have a problem taking John Mayer’s dick up his bussy.

R108 yeah. Typical Millennialism brought on things like 'straight edge', and this is growing beyond that and into something of a generational trait.

Seriously, all so many college students want to do is vape, if anything. Yes pot, yes drinking, but I don't see the culture there as before.

Of course this is all relative. Still plenty of sex, drugs, etc. But there's a weird level of 'down low' about it, and less because of parents and authorities, but because of... each other? Their image? Or sincere belief that others went too far.

Are the ones who are of age (18-21) on Grindr? Is this just a straight thing, or all of them?

They think sex is bad, R111, so probably not in large numbers. They are the ones who made the NoFap Challenge (no jerking off) a thing.

They have issues.

That is so weird R112. I was exposed to a “no fap” mentality in a conservative Christian youth group and thought it was total BS. The “cure” for jerking off they told us was fasting, cold showers, praying. And of course every second church elder had a porn addiction. They actually had a piece of software called Covenant Eyes that wives put on the computer to stop the porn addicted husband.

Now these gen Z kids are doing no nut November and no fap. The reddit subs tell them to fast, take cold showers, lift weights and meditate. There’s a whole bunch of alpha male poseurs making $$$ writing books and blogs telling these kids how to be successful at no fap. And like the super religious they also believe in porn addiction. It’s fucking crazy. What’s the world coming to when young, single men aren’t fapping. And after all that anti sex indoctrination there’s no way these kids can have a healthy sex live if/when they get a partner.

NoFap is more about increasing sexual sensitization than denying it altogether.

Overly serious situations kill people's sex drive. They inherited a hellscape ruled by Nazis, this isn't surprising at all.

Really R114? So those kids posting that they’re in day 200 of nofap and the kids who failed and fapped coming into those forums to berate themselves and apologize like religious fundamentalists have to do is healthy and about making sex better. Don’t think so. Maybe individuals who decide to abstain themselves but not those organised no fap groups on the internet.

...I find your in-depth knowledge of Gen Z teenage fapping schedules a little...zealous.

That's seriously fucked up, R116.

NoFap started in bodybuilding.com forums. The same place where many of your Instagram muscle favs learned to love the gym, lifting, and conning gay men out of their money while also calling them faqs behind their backs. Yep there's an abundance in porn, justforfans, and chaterbate/f4f taking gay mens money for nothing. Gay men lost...

You have to consider the quality of their parents, too. A lot of the Xers who popped them out were of the dumb, deplorable variety, not the smart ones who often, at most, had one child.

Generation X really failed miserably at parenting. I say that as an Xer myself.

Nope just visited the no fap sub once and then saw quite a few comments about no nut November in my feed and also from the young guys at work.

I vaguely remember the no fap thing on the bodybuilding misc forum but I didn’t stay there long. The misogyny and homophobia was worse that 4chan and incels combined.

There were a lot of good Xer parents, R121. Unfortunately, smart, liberal parents DON'T breed enough. They have one child, if that. Or they just have pets. Not enough smart breeding to counteract the stupid, religious idiots. I don't imagine the quality of millennials having kids now is much better.

Sometimes when smart, liberal urban people have too many kids they move to the suburbs and become conservative. Heck, I have friends that only had the one and became very conservative. Mostly fiscally conservative but quite a few drifted to the right socially too. And many of the moms just lost their minds quite frankly, became momzillas. I remember once going over for dinner and being asked through the intercom if we had peanuts or peanut products with us before she’d buzz us in. I think she would have become full on Frau if she had another kid. My brother is a smart, liberal guy. He was a good parent when my nephew was young but then destroyed the kid’s self esteem by putting crazy pressure on him to follow in his footsteps and go to MIT. Totally backfired and their relationship is not good now.

Too early to tell. Give them another 15 years before anything definitive can be said about them.

Their cell phones have leeched all the sexual energy out of them.

[quote] Everything has a passive filter on top of it that looks good enough to their peers. You could say that is normal, but I think it was actually a trend with Boomer-to-Y gen youth that they wanted to diminish to destroy these filters (even if many hypocritically didn't, or even reinforced them). Gen Z, if we're counting older teens and maybe early 20s, seem to shrug and think this is just how it's gonna be.

Yes, totally. You can even see this in action if you examine niche pockets of subculture, such as - hear me out before you say anything - professional wrestling.

I’m no Deplorable but I’ve had strong interest in improv performing arts my entire life, and as a Millennial kid (one of the older ones) was naturally drawn to wrestling. For those who don’t know, US prowres in the ‘90s/‘00s was WILD compared to how it is today - whatever depraved and anti-PC thing you can imagine said or done? It was, and then they put it on network television. Crucifixions, live simulations of sex & stripping, jumping off buildings, throwing people into real lit fire pits with broken glass, cock-and-ball torture, everything. It was awesome trash and we Millennials loved it in all its dark disgusting glory.

Then as my Gen turned to other cultures and entertainment sources, wrestling audiences grew younger - Gen Z- and the shows adapted to suit that new audience.

For someone my age to tune into the programming now whether it’s indies (IWA-MS, AAW, CZW deathmatch shit) or big leagues (WWE, ROH, IMPACT) it is like an alien experience. There is censoring where it never used to be: rosters full of straight-edge dudes who don’t so much as curse (thanks, CM Punk :/) and cutesy pixie women who aren’t allowed sex drives or ‘negative thoughts’; quaint euphemism in promos & commentary; restrictions on what attire performers can wear and on what props they can use (RIP bladejobs). That old Attitude/Aggression ethos is gone forever and replaced by a spirit of sportmanship and punishing transgressors of Good Conduct. It’s boring but the teens & kids (would they still be Gen Z?) of now devour it like candy laced with Adderall.

At 8 years old I was watching drugged-up skanky people get the shit beat and cut out of them for Entertainment dollar or some of my parents’ AOL Free 100 Hours. I don’t know if my Gen has the problem, or Z do.

R127 I remember all that. I'm a vanguard millennial, born in 1982. WWF was everywhere as was South Park. It was definitely of it's time.

They're bringing chastity back.

R129: Them other boys don't know how to act?

They sound like a bore.

r1 Surely they enjoy and look at porn on their cellphones?

There seems to be a collapse in the generations, I'd be tail end of Gen X which has some other sub-generational term but I'm forgetting it and lazy right now, but Millebials and Z's are too close (the baby boomers spanned 25 years, not 10-15).

Add to all of the aforementioned, the trend with revenge porn and knowing how quickly your private life explodes publicly has to dampen the mood a bit. They're old enough to have seen some nasty repercussions.

I this a regional thing? Because kids in the southwest are all about fucking, drinking, getting high and they all love their cars/trucks.

Yall dont get it do you ? Its all about APPEARING to be something ,that doesnt mean thats what they actually are. I bet kids are still having sex ,just not the ugly pudgy ones. And theres far more of them now than hot ones. If the eye of the internet wasnt on them 24-7 then even the ugly pudgy ones would be banging .Back in the day you could get away with no one knowing ,or deny it if they did find out you fucked some fatty.Now theres usually video !

Since when do teens care about social appearances though? Usually they have an 'I don't give a shit' attitude about what adults think or go out of their way to purposely shock and rebel.

R136 Teens are the most about social appearances. It is just that their bubbles of influence are much smaller, and they try to transfer out of old bubbles.

Unless they get stuck in particular traditional ways, it is the old people who care the least about appearances. They just get into deep habits after the decades is all - often to the point of feeling practically trapped (but the aspect of appearances in itself is shrugged off). Teens? "I CAN'T DO THAT, IT'D END ME WITH [html removed]"

Don't mistake teen rebellion against their parents/established authorities to be a lack of care about how the important people think of them.

R137, perfect example of this amongst a group of vaping tween/teen boys, the coolest was the one who could take apart their computer fastest to hide their JUUL vaporizers, such RENEGADES!

This is very true! Many kids don’t get their license’s at least here in burn outside NYC. Kids do not go out on weekends. More than one of my friends have complained that their daughters have not had alcohol and off they go to college w/o trying it and their parent are worried. My friend told her daughter to have a glass of wine w her b4 heading off to UNC. She said “that’s cringy mom” and refused. She’s a sophomore and still hasn’t had a drink and neither have her friends. My friend thinks it’s bizarre! No boyfriends either. And this is the exact same thing my neighbor has sad about her daughter.

There’s no such thing as driving around looking for parties like we did in the 80s.

R62 It's possible they feel ignored in the wake of the larger, omnipresent millennial pop culture. Kids are very conscious and insecure about things like that.

Sociologists have Been predicting that generation Z will be much more conservative and traditionalist than previous generations.

[quote] A healthier, more moral generation.

Lord. Who let Sister Mary Fraus 'R Us on DL?

I dunno, my sis is a public school teacher in Calgary, and she tells me that all those kids do is fuck and do drugs and fail to plan for anything beyond next week. She says they are constantly busting kids screwing in the washrooms and such. They sound even sluttier than we were (very late gen x/early millennial here, born ‘80).

There were kids busted in my school’s bathrooms screwing too. It was 2 couples out of 3000 kids and they were, well, trailer trash. All 4 lived in government housing and had siblings who were teen parents, junkies etc. Of course older people in our town then said “that school is out of control, the kids are all having sex in the bathrooms”. Funny how that works when in my grade there were kids already taking college classes, a guy who won a NASA award for a science project, a girl who was published. They got zero mention. If people wanted to they could equally have said the school is full of smart kids who are doing great things but nope. Sometimes teachers said “this class is wrecking my nerves” when it was ONE little asshole acting up and giving her grief. The other 30 kids were fine but the squeaky wheel gets the grease I guess. And like anywhere there were kids in relationships, kids who went clubbing, bookworms, introverts. I think class plays a part too and that’s rarely addressed.

These kids today have their parents tracking every single move they make through their iPhones. It's truly disturbing. I had more freedom as a ten year old than some twenty-two year olds have. I know a nut-job woman with three kids, the oldest is twenty-two. The woman is constantly tracking the kid. "My cell phone bill, my rules." "My house, my rules." And this sociopathitic woman makes a whole spectacle of it. Every time I see her this is going on. I'd rather live in the park than live with that shit. The parents today are awful, horrible parents. With parents this bad, imagine what kind of parents these kids will be when it's time? So, how could these kids possibly be intererested in having sex with the parents knowing real time what they're doing?

Well, I'm an older millennial and I feel sorry for them. We were the last generation, or three quarters of a generation, to escape having our parents track our every movement down with iphones. The very youngest millennials are probably in the same boat as them. We drank underage, smoked pot, had sex. It helped having self-involved parents more interested in their own problems, lol.

It's worse now that parents can FaceTime their kids. Now they don't just call their kids and text them, they demand to visually see their kids. It leaves no possibility for kids to tell even white lies about where they're at.

There’s also a bunch of upper class, mostly white, women who chose to leave high powered careers to 24/7 monitor her 2 kids and make them the center of her universe. The kids every move is monitor and analysed. His every bite of food is carefully chosen after consulting 20 mommy blogs. If he isn’t on the spectrum she’ll find a few food allergies to make him a special snowflake. This child is now solely responsible for her happiness and his successes validate her existence and her choice to drop out of life. In the old days women didn’t make the choice to be a housewife and they shoved the kids out to play and were glad to get rid of them for a few hours.

Maybe it's high fructose corn syrup

Or organic, fair trade Whole Foods baby purée.

r141 But what is the theory about why they think that would/is happening?

they have no sex because they have no desire to connect or communicate face to face.

I'm a GenX. If I was a kid today and I had a parent who tried to track my every move via iPhone (or by whatever means), I would find a way to tell them to fuck off via subverting their ridiculous tracking efforts. It would.not.happen. Kids need to be respectful but not be subservient pussies.

[quote] It's possible they feel ignored in the wake of the larger, omnipresent millennial pop culture. Kids are very conscious and insecure about things like that.

When we were kids, all everyone talked about was GenX this and that. We dealt with it until we created our own separate, generational identity. These kids can deal with it until they create their own identity too.

The rest of the world doesn’t have these stupid labels. I suspect 98% of kids don’t consciously go about thinking “I’m Gen Z, what will our identity be”. I don’t even know what generation label I am and have no desire to look it up. Who needs more crap to be concerned about.

Quite agree r153 Parents being control freaks via tracking of everything are not creating a healthy situation for their kids or themselves.

Parents need to give their kids space, not just hover over them.

You're a baby boomer, R155.

1) I’m not American do these silly labels don’t apply to me. 2) I don’t even think my parents are boomers they were born in 68 and 70.

They sound positively tedious.

This is like when bible bashers discovered Muslims and gays got a break for a while. 🤞 DL will leave the millenials alone and move on to gen z bashing.

If they're not driving, how do they get around?

They teleport themselves around, Rose.

Uber. It’s city kids that aren’t driving but as often happens in the media upper middle class white urban dwellers are the default people so things get exaggerated.

R143, things might be different in Canada. The research is all on American Gen Z-ers so far. I moved from the US to the UK, and I've noticed here that Millennials are more likely to be in traditional jobs than in the US, for example. Professional jobs are more relaxed and fewer hours here thanks to enhanced worker protections.

[quote]As a millennial, I think Gen Z is pretty cool and I like their values

I’m Gen X and I agree.

I’m Gen X too, and am heartened by the more wholesome values of Gen Z. They have a great developed sense of morality and integrity.

A bit charmed. They will largely escape experiencing scary Boomers in the workplace and Gen X has a soft spot for them and coddles them. We will have taken the brunt of flaming and criticism on their behalf. I hope they're grateful. 😅

They're stressed out.

Since the advent of the 24/7 new cycle amd the internet, these kids and their parents have been inundated with scary headlines about almost everything, including: sex, alcohol amd driving.

I just read a headline the other day that chemicals in dental floss can cause cancer. It’s ridiculous

They have their own youth culture which seems baffling to adults, just like everybody else did. They watch copious amounts of Youtube videos, which I don't get, but I'm not supposed to, I guess.

Why don’t you watch YouTube r171? 🤔

I do occasionally, R172. For music. I don't get the appeal of watching other people play video games, though.

[quote]Gen X has a soft spot for them and coddles them

Lol, nope. I see Boomers make excuses for the Zs, as if they were their indulgence grandparents. My Gen X peers are annoyed by the self-righteous, humorless Zs and we spend most of our lunch breaks bitching about their workplace stupidity.

*indulgent

R159: Generational labels are for all peoples worldwide, friend. You parents are GenXers, which means you're a Millennial. Make your own way, that's what we all do. But there are GENERAL patterns associated with each generation.

Tell us more about their big blow job lips and pendulous silky dongs.

Come on now, R173. When we were kids in the 80s, groups of children (usually boys) would gather around any arcade machine to watch when the person playing it was doing well. It's the same principle.

So they don't like sex? Damn. They're missing out.

Good for them

Really, R180? Abstaining from sex is a good thing?

R181, you realize everyone is not hedonist or libertine? Most aren’t.

How does one even quantify how much sex any group is having? People lie, especially teens. Virgin teen boys brag they've had sex when they haven't. Teen girls may claim to be virgins even if they aren't. Hell, I think even I lied on the last questionnaire that asked how many partners I had, or I unwittingly put down a lower number, and I'm 30.

Whore R183

Oh well, at least they're not barebacking.

I highly suspect this thread has regional implications. I'm on older gen x and I'm supposed to believe that the 18-21s on Grindr and Scruff in the NY Metro area are their purely for cultural exploration and enlightenment. Or that the Instagram muscleheads have devoted their youth to healthful living and optimal nutrition, with no other aesthetic or sensual intentions. Sure, Jan. I don't know what planet the poster is on, but these kids are throwing their legs up quicker than prima ballerinas and they're making Gilead sciences a small fortune with their consumption of PrEP and antiretroviral protocol. This isn't even taking into account the early introduction to weed, steroids, alchohol, coke, meth, and x, without which many of these scallops couldn't even HAVE sex. If they wanted to.

I agree that early exposure to porn has had a significant influence, and a negative one. Perhaps, for some, it has become a more practical and simpler release, sparing them the bother of connecting with another person, and more sadly, denying them the emotional availability to human love. However, there are many more that bear the imprinting of those porn images and become obsessed with acting them out. Dating, both gay and straight, becomes an audition to see if the person of interest has this skill or that size, or that versatility or that flexibility.

Being under constant surveillance and scrutiny is even less of an aphrodisiac. What the hell happened to the days of hooking up with a guy at a traffic light? I'm glad I was young when I was and didn't have to deal with this crap. While not proud of the man men I'd been with in my time, I played it safe, remained neg, and learned a great deal about men, good and bad. My regret is not finding the right one. The best chance of accomplishing that is when you're young and open enough to adapt and grow with another person. My concern is that Gen Z may be denying themselves that opportunity but either this avoidance you speak of or pornographic and Instagram images that most will never be able to live up to.

[quote] Gen X peers are annoyed by the self-righteous, humorless Zs and we spend most of our lunch breaks bitching about their workplace stupidity.

R174 I’m Gen Y and I find it annoying also.

At my last job I was a ‘team leader’ (ugh, bullshit term but w/e) to three Gen Z kids - one born 97, one 98 and one Y2K. I initially thought they were cute, sweet, obedient & hardworking and didn’t mind that they tried to suck up to me and our Managers or spent every shift yapping about their unbearably trivial sheltered lives without engaging in conversation about anything cool or meaningful beyond our McJobs. At the time I still cared about seeming “fun” & easygoing so I let them come in or clock off early, didn’t reprimand them, went easy on their scheduled chores & duties etc.

After just a few months I quickly realised that even as lenient as I was being toward them these brats were in cahoots tattling on me to Management anyway, while smiling to my face pretending they didn’t know anything about why my Boomer Seniors appeared to despise me. They were also prone to blaming their fuckups on me, and I even discovered that the aspie/incel-seeming one had once reported me for harassment for touching him on the shoulder (for context I’m a woman and at the time I was like around 23 years old).

They were basically competent at their jobs and Uber-conscientious and “good” but that didn’t take away the fact that they were backstabbing little creeps who couldn’t Be Cool. Sadly I had no-one to bitch to about this then as my only other regular co-worker was an old Boomer counting down to her retirement who had seen it all and besides hated us “kids” equally.

The one co-worker I actually liked was another Millennial who had metal plates in her head from brain surgery and liked swearing at rude customers or talking to me loudly about her latest sex toys in front of the older clientele, she was knarly.

I'm glad they're carving out their own identity that differentiates them, whatever that may be. I'm sick of getting lumped in with teenagers.

r187 That lines up with my experiences with Canadian gen Y kids. I avoid them.

We have these. What else do ya need.

I don't care for them. They can't even write in cursive, and the white ones are frightening little conservatives in training.

Tell that to the 18 year old I've been fucking 4x a week since August.

How are they affording all these Uber rides?

They seem like little sluts to me. I got cruised hard by one last week, he was really working for it. They seem to like older men too. But I avoid them, too much trouble.

The Bank of Mommy & Daddy, R193. Pays for their brand new iPhones and monthly plans too. They don't work summer jobs or fast food jobs like generations prior.

The kids will be all right.

Good for them. Sex is overrated

r194 Going after old men is the millennial generation. No sex and playing Grindr games is Gen Z.

Just one article makes this true?

Anecdotal evidence, R199.

Clearly, something is wrong with them.

It's completely self-obsession and that's it.

I guess they just watch porn and jerk off.

It's going to be so much fun watching them interact with eldergays once they enter the workplace. I think I'll go ahead and just make a batch of popcorn now.

Maybe they don’t like sex because they’re disgusted by other human bodies. Like they all picked up that soccer mom prudishness and horror of orifices and bodily functions and saliva, not to mention their hostility to active male sexuality. A lot of (white) middle class women are totally horrfied by male sexuality and see it as something to suppress. This would have a pretty profound effect on their kids, especially boys.

A better generation

[quote] It's going to be so much fun watching them interact with eldergays once they enter the workplace.

There will be no interaction. It'll be like talking to a wall, except with the wall holding a phone.

They scare me due to their acceptance of surveillance and eroding of other personal freedoms.

While it’s nkt their fault to a large degree, they seem poised to let it thrive as they slowly take over.

I'm not too sure about that, R206. Or their moral values and integrity.

At some point, we all go through this. We all get our time on the edge. Let's not write each other off for any prejudicial reason. Now, if you're a lazy or backstabbing a-hole at work, and you make our jobs harder, all bets are off.

However, I'd like to point out that not every Gen X had a good job at 25. At that age, I had JUST been hired full-time after 3 years of temping in my crappy headset job, which I only got through a connection who was also a temp. A Bachelor's degree from a good university, plus a few clerical jobs already, wasn't enough. My bosses convinced me that I was lucky to have a job at all. Their giant generation pushed their sixties crap onto us. I'm sorry if my generation is pushing our crap onto you, but I know that you have your own culture.

r203 there was another study that said similar things about having less sex, but they also asked about masturbation and found that they started at an earlier age and masturbated more frequently. The internet and availability of porn was sited as contributing to this behavior.

What R168 said. They will have escaped dealing with Boomers in any professional setting and all of the accompanying criticism about how they are so much worse than they were at their age. They are the children of Gen X, so Xers like them. They are the true snowflakes.

They melt away having to deal with any criticism.

Millennials provided them with a nice shield from them ever having to receive any actual criticism.

They're having sex, they're just not letting adults know how much.

Tide pod generation.

GenX treat them like little prince and princesses. Baby Boomers treat them like adorable grandchildren.

Don't be jealous, R217.

I think Millennials will hate Gen Z once they get into the workforce.

Gen X hated us for absolutely no reason, so we are returning the favor their bratty little children, R219.

It seems to me that if you want your children to succeed, then just giving them a normal pre-1990s childhood will give them the skills to rise above their peers.

I love these X’rs insisting that Gen Y are dorky do-gooders? Yall have it so twisted.

Y Gen are basically the delinquent bullying kids from ‘Malcolm in the Middle’ - the more destruction and violence the better. We are changemakers and radical types wanting to push boundaries and laugh at things that offend Elders. A ‘scumbag’ generation raised on nu-metal and hardcore and Jackass and back-talking. Yeah it’s not agreeable but that was never the point. We didn’t sit around talking about how edgy and depressed and disenfranchised we were, but actually acted on everything the X’rs could only write songs about or make t-shirts saying.

Z are more like the dweebs you see now on teen shows who stand around biting their nails hysterically over something minor or otherwise made-up/fantastical/vain & virtuous and then expecting praise or attention for writing a cutesy funny Tweet about it, which Boomers love because they spend all their time trying to do the same thing. Viral-spiral, no-one cares.

That was quite a mouthful

Thank you, R222. We got the short end of the stick from our 'elders.' Now they're all lovey-dovey about these new kids, making excuses for them. Screw them.

Hilarious, R222.

Boomers and Gen X pulled a collaborative hatchet job on millennials. Being nice towards these new children is probably their penance.

R226's song.

I love R227.

That gif explains so much about millennial childhood, R222.

So-called generations move too fast these days. I barely got used to differentiating between Gen X and Millennials and now there's a new one?

They need a better generational name.

Generation Benign Psychopath. There.

Little shits like Heather Unruh's son are going to be the new norm. Get used to them.

And they will make you miss millennials being the new brats on the block.

They are all childish "adults."

I don't know that I would call them adults yet.

To me, they are children. If this is true, I'm glad they're not having sex. Nobody needs a bunch of stupid teens getting knocked up, reproducing and perpetuating some bad cycle.

I don't think older adults being more understanding of kids these days is a bad thing, R226. Their ideas and opinions about us were wrong on a lot of levels. This is our chance to improve.

[quote] Baby Boomers treat them like adorable grandchildren.

I can't imagine Boomers indulging anyone that way. Their thing has always been how great they are and how much everybody and everything after them sucks in comparison.

R238 Grandparents are often kinder and more indulgent towards their grandkids than they ever were to their actual kids.

Also when they wash their sons' underwear, they check to see whether he's been naughty or nice

oops wrong thread

A couple of years ago I went back to university. I over-heard a lot of conversations along the lines of "OMG at the party Steve KISSED Sarah, in front of EVERYBODY!!!".

Nobody drinks or takes drugs anymore and they were horrified at my university stories.

It was as if they were about 10 years behind in their development.

Do they use the phrases Gosh Darn and Heck, too, R242?

Kevin Spacey is probably not too fond of them. He got away for years with being handsy with young millennial twinks, and the moment these Z kids came of age, he gets in trouble.

Talking about Y vs. Z and their differences sexual or otherwise is just describing the difference between Capricorn & Aquarius. They’re ultimately governed and preoccupied by the same demon - Saturn, if you will - but relate to it totally differently. .

Millennials born roughly ‘85-‘96 are Capricorn-stellium people, meaning that most of the ‘big’ outer planets in their collective star charts such as Uranus & Neptune are in that sign and that their shared characteristics as a Gen espouse Capricornian traits - namely a love of material realities & currencies ($$$), an attraction-repulsion draw to power & authority, a passion for ‘success’ on their terms and an earthy animalistic lust for sex without social connotation or consideration (think of the archetype of the God Dionysus/Pan). This Gen also tend to construct hierarchies and supplant anything “not working well/efficiently” or that is “not real”. A Capricorn will go to any creative or illegal length to avoid getting dirty hands or having to waste their precious time doing something about which they don’t personally care. They are closet rebels & anarchists; the type to bend and break rules but unlike Gen Z never own it much less brag about it or make it a fashion statement. A Capricorn is always scrappy and wants to do with their lifetime whatever they think is valuable (and that is NOT what Boomers/X/Z value). They are the young tricks who want you to fuck them harder and leave bruises, tie them up, tell them they’re worthless sluts etc. in private but treat them like equals come morning. A Capricorn is only concerned with fairness & etiquette or “wokeness” as far as it affects THEIR individual doings, and they dislike Groupthink while preferring to keep an established framework of social order. Capricorn people generally have rough childhoods laboring in vain or unnoticed for cruel despotic Saturn authorities who despise or deride them as “dirt”, an authority from which they struggle to break free later on using their powers of survival. There are dark raw primal shades to these people which slowly reveal themselves..

Generation Z born roughly ‘97-‘08 are Aquarius-stellium people, meaning that most of the ‘big’ outer planets in their collective star charts are in Aqua and that their shared characteristics as a Gen espouse Aquarian traits - all that Brotherhood of Man-type stuff and anything to do with celebrating uniqueness...as a homogenous group. They are honestly probably more cerebrally-intelligent and more emotionally-conscious that their older Y cousins, but they are unbelievably näive sociopolitically because their idealism blinkers them to Human Nature I.e. warring monkey tribes fucking or fighting each other to death. They demand equal treatment in deed & word at every turn and every situation which is noble but also sets them up for disappointment. They favor ‘experience’ over materialism and will always want to do things as part of a group. Sharing is caring to Gen Z which makes them seems less selfish than Y but also more insular as they stick to their cliques. Aqua types genuinely want to help others they perceive as less fortunate so they can level social playing fields, though like Y they do have that attraction-repulsion draw to power & authority. These guys are more the Ganymede archetype, pouring out their love & knowledge into the cups of others or disrupting an established order I.e. Olympus for the sake of an ideology. Through their parents & teachers Aquarius will experience the more distant or self-sacrificial side of Saturn along with Uranian formative changes. These kids are proud‘weird hippies’ & ‘Indigo children’ and as dangerous as blinding bright white lights can be. They’re more alien than animal. It’s hard to discuss them sexually yet as only half of them are of legal age/in College.

So as much as they’re all of a Saturn Generation - “born to die” as Del Ray would say - they’re so different that they need separate classification. It’s like comparing Batman (Y) to Superman (Z), or the X-Men (Y) to the Justice League/Teen Titans (Z).

It’s hard to take these generational balled too seriously when there isn’t even consensus on the parameters and name of all the groups.

Now we have some astrology loon claiming a generation is only 11 years?

No kidding, I was born in 1984, and while most people consider that an old Millennial, my birth year is also considered Gen X by a Harvard expert and a Xennial (1978-1984) is another. What I do know is that I had somewhat different experiences than that majority of the Millennials who graduated after the 2008 crash.

[quote] Xennial (1978-1984) is another. What I do know is that I had somewhat different experiences than that majority of the Millennials who graduated after the 2008 crash.

^^this. I graduated HS in 2011 and eventually graduated College in 2016. Compared with my Xennial cousins on the same education level as me, I am gravely underemployed and have noticeably fewer opportunities to enter into, progress throug or even choose my fields of work. I’m working doggrooming and shop-bagging and bussing where my Xennial family members breezed into white-collar jobs. I also had to pay 5x as much for a basic College degree of the same quality. So fuck Gen X saying we’re lazy or we’re losers. We’re starting further back on the board.

What thread was that for r241?

So what will the next generation be called. Z is the last letter so will the next be gen AA

[quote] Boomers and Gen X pulled a collaborative hatchet job on millennials.

Perhaps more galling and barfworthy than all of the years of negative commentary on millennials, were the sudden rash of glowing articles that came out right after Parkland, vaunting these new gilded teens as a new generation of leaders and go-getters. One would be led to think they were all the second coming of Gandhi.

r250 Generation Doomed.

I've heard whispers about Generation Alpha, R250. I suppose they're the toddlers right now.

But are they into tattoos?

R251 the writers of those articles were all mainly parents of teens. Of course they're going to push their little darlings as the Second Coming.

Meanwhile...

Gen X here. There are too many reasons to list for the differences in Gen Y though the big ones have been discussed.

To me, setting aside the immeasurable impact of technology, the other two factors are a) Gen X raised themselves, we were the last generation raised with the Old World/Immigrant work ethic that is a bedrock of American culture, and b) we were the last party generation. Yes, yes, I realize drugs have never left, but *culturally* it changed. Gen X was the last generation who celebrated drug culture as a norm.

So I believe these are the three biggies: technology, work ethic, drugs. Obviously, sex and drugs and partying go hand in hand. None of my early sexual experiences were sober, so I’m not surprised Gen Y isn’t getting laid as much. They’re inhibited by their sobriety.

We're not lazy and we most certainly are getting laid. The generation after us, the kids of Gen X, are the ones who are not working summer jobs and not interested in sex. A lot of the misconceptions about Millennials are mistruths promoted by Xers and Boomers who don't really know what they're talking about.

Is gen y an attempt at rebranding after the term millennial had been so tainted?

By contextual clues, it would appear some refer to the generation after X as Y while others seem to mean what’s also billed as Z.

R258, I don’t know that I could point blank call you guys lazy, but......you don’t have the old school work ethic of previous generations. The ones before you were only one, two, three generations removed (tops) from their immigrant relatives, so they had immigrant, back-breaking, callous-hands work ethic instilled in them. It’s not your fault, but by the time it was your turn, the work ethic had been so watered down, you don’t even understand it.

Everyone I grew up with was ALWAYS working: cooking, cleaning, mowing, business, sweeping, fixing, washing, polishing, dusting, trimming, baking etc etc etc. it’s hard to be like that when you can’t peel your face off a fucking screen. Own it.

Is R260 broadcasting from 1919?

Awwwwww, your feewings hurt, r261? Come on, let momma hug you.....

Here you go r262. Gen X did indeed have many many grandparents who were immigrants. See the graph.

Ha ha

I was born in the 70s, a kid in the 80s, and starting adult life in the 90s and I can confirm hit generalization is mostly full of shit.

We weren’t called Gen X, aka slacker generation, because everyone was up before dawn getting blisters on our hands...

R265, what nonsense? No one is idealizing Gen X. All I’m saying is they were the last link of the old world work ethic. That’s a fact — I did not say Gen X is the most hardworking generation, that would be ludicrous. I think Gen Y is bringing a lot of great things to the table, most especially social consciousness.

Those poor Xers skipping elementary school to sell matchsticks and scour the streets for lumps of coal.

You’re demonstrating your weak reading comprehension r267. Keep posting to Insta!!!

I read the last paragraph of your nonsense at R260 just fine. Since I was there as well, I know it’s a laughable exaggeration that flirts with the absurd.

R269, I sincerely apologize, I reread what you’re referencing, that was a poorly worded sentence on my part. I was referring to the ADULTS when I wrote that, not Gen X kids. I meant that as a child, we witnessed the adults constantly working, they never stopped — so that was my bad.

Fair enough, R270. I can agree with you there!

That’s a huge part of why we were the latchkey kids who mostly raised ourselves!

I think that’s what makes us so different from all the our generations...

^all the other generations

Generation X benefited from having the same childhood freedom that generations before had, while doing it in the liberal post-60s world. They're the only generation that had both.

The end result of that was highly pronounced individualism, which led to entrepreneurship, independence, good technical abilities, highly varied popular culture, anti-authority, etc. The flip side was higher rates of drug use, teenage pregnancy, and crime - all of which peaked in the mid 90s when Generation X was in full swing.

Arguably, that is also responsible for their Generation Z children's problems - technology is making humans obsolete while also creating a mental health crisis; their money-obsessed worldview has led to growing inequality; personal individualism has led to feelz above reals nonsense; their tendency to be against social structures has led to the decline fo the family; their tendency towards fewer children and later parenthood has led to mollycoddled children; and so on.

Generation X had it really good. They enjoyed a level of wealth and personal freedom that has never happened before and will probably never happen again. But let's be realistic on who created Generation Z and the world they inhabit.

[quote] Everyone I grew up with was ALWAYS working: cooking, cleaning, mowing, business, sweeping, fixing, washing, polishing, dusting, trimming, baking etc.

There’s a difference between productivity and getting important shit done vs. busywork one does to keep appearances.

Some might say dusting knickknacks you bought to passive-aggressively spite your absentee divorced parents and mowing your AstroTurf to 2mm off the ground isn’t worth wasting your precious hours.

Gen X had a horrible job market last decade as we graduated

Millennials are 1982-1996. Everyone born 1997 and after is Gen Z (ie, 9/11 babies/generation). Completely depressing. The era of Prozac, Fox News and George Bush.

R275 that post references the gens older than Gen X. They worked VERY very hard. Sorry if that triggers you, but they did.

My boomer parents worked hard and played even harder with left no time or desire for parenting.

R274 makes an important point which represents a lost opportunity due to lack of guidance and role models.

That is why so many Xers turned into helicopter parents: giving their kids what they didn’t get and going overboard to the point of being too much correction.

I suppose the same dynamic could be said of boomer parents who thought we should have the right to raise ourselves with too much freedom too early since they got the dictator style in the 50s...

[quote] Is gen y an attempt at rebranding after the term millennial had been so tainted?

Gen Y was the original catch-all phrase for the millennial generation, specifically the older bunch. It was pushed from the late 90s to about 2012 or so when 'millennial' seemed to sprout up out of nowhere and replaced it. Personally, I've always thought Gen Y (or rather Gen "Why?") was more fitting, seeing as how we've always questioned why about authority or why certain things can't be changed.

R278 No argument there. The older generations (1940s and before) lived in a more brutal world. Dying during childbirth, burying relatives in backyards. They were made of different stuff. I can't say that I'm not glad that I didn't exist back then..

[quote] My boomer parents worked hard and played even harder with left no time or desire for parenting.

This describes my parents as well. They were hands off with me and my siblings, leaving us to our own machinations. Good providers, but the sense I got from them and a lot of other friends' parents is that they weren't going to let their damn kids spoil their fun.

I have two toddler nephews, and yes, they are Generation Alpha. They are being raised by Millenials (older end on the cusp of Gen X).

They will need to be alphas to make it in the gathering hellscape

R285 I don´t even want to imagine what hell they´re going to inherit.

I know this thread is about Gen Z, but yes to everything R222 said. It taps into some of our darker qualities.

I also agree with r222, this is what I hate about Millanials. Jackass in particular sums it up. What a culture to belong too. Jackass and reality TV, maybe not the darkest time in human history, but the least classy.

As a Xennial (as I just learned) I do identify much stronger with Gen X .

Millennials did not invent Jackass or reality TV. The onslaught of trashy television and lowbrow, gross-out humor preceded us. But we did continue onward with it...

I don't think giving Gen Z a complex is going to help matters much. They're going to navigate the world and carve out their own path just like everybody has had to.

Had to pipe-in when I heard a Gen Xer criticizing the Millennial work ethic. The American work ethic has changed because the economy has changed - not because Millennials are lazy. Jobs are not as plentiful, nor are they as easy to obtain. If you dont get a job right after graduating college it can actually be tricky to obtain a “filler” job because you’re overqualified (yes, I was told that a LOT after graduating college in 2008). My partner graduated with a masters in 2008 and couldn’t get hired at a Barnes & Noble bc he was overqualified.

Playing the long game is more important today than saving babysitting money (which wouldn’t put a dent in the interest millennials owe on college loans anyway). Getting perfect grades, in the perfect school (with the necessary extracurriculars), then the perfect college and the perfect internship, making the perfect connections...and still it’s stiff competition. That said Millennials on the whole are extremely casual (socially and sartorially), inarticulate, impatient (all of which could come across as lazy).

An aside: My dad (a boomer) bought a car and saved up college tuition with his many summer jobs, that is absolutely fucking impossible today amd will never be possible again.

Pipe down, chorus boy!

R292, I am the poster who talked about watching people work hard, I was referring to the adults when Gen X were kids, NOT saying you guys are lazy. Again, my apologies for a poorly worded post — I do not think your generation is lazy, and I feel great compassion for you guys, I agree with everything you just said and it’s not right. But please know, that topic came from my original poorly worded post, and if anyone is here accusing your Gen of being lazy, they’re just trolls. I know you guys bust ass too, and have unique challenges that no other generation has faced.

Dear R292, the "overqualified" bullshit happens a lot. Do what I did: shave off one or two years off your education. And I'm Gen X btw. Younger Gen X are in the same boat as Millenials when it comes to job scarcity.

Actually, housing and home ownership becoming affordable again could absolutely be possible, if we gave a shit about politics. Gen Z (?), the Parkland kids, seem to know that.

R295 so “shave a few years off” means like, putting down you have only one year of community college if you really have a BA, or just a BA if you really have an MA/PhD? Or do you mean that one should alter the birth or graduation year to seem younger?

I sometimes lie by omission in job interviews where my age/DOB is not part of the application (in some companies it’s not policy for HR to ask). I went to College a little later than typical for someone my age and my degree certificate was awarded a couple years later than it should have been too, so it seems like I’m younger if you don’t do the math on or question my resume.

In the country where I live, Masters degrees can be 1 year, or 2 years if they're more advanced (to prepare for PhD). I have a Masters 2 but only say Masters 1 very often. I once wrote I only had a BA, and got the interview, but the interviewer quickly sussed me out. I still got the job, but he was worried I would leave. I did, after 5 months.

As for work experience, I usually keep my resume down to 1 page with only experience that's relevant to the job. I write "work experience - selection" and rarely get asked about the gaps. When I do, it's because it's hiring policy to interview nearly everyone. When they're really looking for someone and think you can do the job, they're not going to be worrying about some gap here and there. I'm female so that might play into it.

Lastly, if I'm getting interviewed by someone who is far less educated than I am (this has happened more than once), I usually let them do the talking and place "the right answer" here and there in the conversation. It usually works.

I also shave down some time off my resume. I've taken out all my old jobs, pre-2013, unless they're really relevant to the position. Degrees stay on without dates. It makes me look like in my late 20s or about 30 rather than 35.

This only works on a resume, though. On a job application you have to be honest and state every job if the application asks for it, otherwise you might get fired if they found out you were lying.

It doesn't help that there's a logjam starting at the very top of the workplace, with the very oldest workers not retiring and holding onto their positions longer than was typical. This has kept overqualified GenXers down in middle management. This is in turn is keeping millennials down the chain. And now there's a new generation set to enter the workplace?

Amen to that, R300. Or rather, it sucks.

As for job application forms, I don't bother with those. They're not the type to hire me anyway.

What comes after Z? Generation AA

We said Generation Alpha, don't you follow R303?

r303 that means they need AA batteries for their dildos.

That means they'll need Alcoholics Anonymous from all of the drinking they'll need to do to get by.

Give them time to find their groove

I’m glad they seem more sane and healthy.

They are neither of those two things, R308.

I know R244 is supposed to be a joke, but that's the biggest difference I see between these kids. They're much less sexually permissive and adventurous than millennials.

Millennials have less sex than previous generations. There is more chasity among millennials than there was among Gen X in their 20s/30s

Doubtful, R311. Read the millennials barebacking thread, all 3 threads about that topic.

R312, your problem is you believe random Stories are somehow evidence of the overall behavior of a large demographic. Thankfully, empirical, scientific studies have been done on the topic to tell us what the generation is doing.

Lol. What are these empirical, scientific studies? This should be good.

Also, R313, STD rates are at some of the highest they've ever been. I don't say that like it's something to be proud of, but somewhere there is a major disconnect between what you're saying and what's actually happening. I blame lack of condom use and sex apps.

The millennials could be tiresome, but prudes they were not.

This new generation of young people seem very uptight and awkwardly unfriendly.

Try to keep up with scientific studies

In a lengthy and very popular cover story in the December 2018 issue of The Atlantic magazine, “The Sex Recession,” Kate Julian argues that “young people are launching their sex lives later and having sex less frequently than members of previous generations.” The question is why.

“In the space of a generation, sex has gone from something most high-school students have experienced to something most haven’t.” "People now in their early 20s are two and a half times as likely to be abstinent as Gen Xers were at that age; 15 percent report having had no sex since they reached adulthood.” In the U.S., “about 60 percent of adults under age 35 now live without a spouse or a partner.” (Of course, that does not mean they live without sex – more on that later.) In Japan in 2015, 43 percent of young people (ages 18 to 34) were virgins. Married people were not having much sex, either: 47 percent said it had been more than a month since they had sex. Julian mentioned in passing many possible reasons for what she calls “the sex recession,” but underscored 6 as having come up most often in her research and interviews. (She combined parental pressure with hook-up culture; I’m separating them. I’ve also changed the order of the reasons.) I’ll recount her reasons first. Then I will add a 7th reason, my own. I’ll also explain what I think Julian got wrong. I’ll end by suggesting that the real issue is one of the most fundamental questions in all of psychology: What are humans really like?

AGAIN, it is the lack of drugs!!!!!! Anyone who did drugs will tell you this. It’s true.

It’s completely bullsht that gen z is more conservative or whatever, they take liberalism to new extremes that even old boomer hippies find disturbing.

I dont think they arent fucking,they just arent advertising it. Go on any hook up site,and you see a plethora of "18" year old barely legals. I think its because a lot of them just arent attractive,and since the whole "well,its closing time and Im drunk and horny,so he will do " culture has radically shifted they just arent getting the chances they once did. Why go to a bar,put in time and effort on the hunt,get to know the person you might be interested in,etc,when you can just swipe left .Then that kinda schlubby guy (packing a fat 8 incher) doesnt get a chance to sell himself,and you lose out on a potentially great fuck. This generation is even more superficial than we were in the 80s,and thats saying something!

Again, anecdotal observations about who’s on dating apps and stories on DL mean nothing about overall trends and behavior of an entire generation. Empirical large-scale scientific studies and surveys are the standard evidence for assessing generational behavior.

I think the oversaturation of porn all over the internet since they were born has sorta spoiled thing for them, and no, I'm not at all anti-porn. Maybe they had one clumsy sexual foible and decided, hey, this isn't anywhere near as exciting as the glossy, XXX double penetration. Real life doesn't compare to the ease of the virtual world. This wouldn't be unheard of. This already has been happening in Japan for quite some time.

But fapping makes your skin have that special glow!!!

I think kids today are doing just fine.

You know you’re really warped when you think porn is indicative of the norm

My mom and I talked the other day about the lack of freedom teenagers today seem to have. The parents track them on their phones and demand constant contact. My best friend, whom I love to death, spies on her daughter all the time. She tracks her social media, has a tracker on her phone, reads her text messages, etc. I can't believe the amount of time she spends doing that. How could that girl ever get up to any typical teen shenanigans we did as kids? My friend always tells me she thinks it's strange that her daughter doesn't have a boyfriend, but I told her how could she when her mother is constantly all up in her business 24/7.

My nephew was more into masturbation and porn than actually dating. He dated a girl for a little while, but he thought relationships were a hassle. He preferred to hang out with his friends and fap to porn. He was also a big gamer, too, and spent countless hours playing video games. My brother didn't know what to think about all this. I do know my sister-in-la was very much into my nephew's life in a way I thought was unhealthy. She would search his room and find porn. She never said anything to him, though, but would talk to my brother, who was like, um, he's a teenager--of course he has porn.

I don’t want my future kids to get into what you think is “typical teenage shenanigans.” Thank goodness for good parental oversight and technology.

"my future kids"

😂😂😂

Your teenage years are meant for pushing boundaries. You're growing up and maturing, but you still don't have the life experience to necessarily make the best decisions. This is a period where you learn from your mistakes. But parents today want to take away any freedom for teenagers to do this. No wonder so many young people in my profession can't make decisions and have no judgment. Their parents took that away from them. People like R327 think they're helping, but in the end they're not. Making mistakes is how you learn and grow. If you have no freedom to do that, you never learn and grow. I'm not talking about letting teenagers do whatever they want, but give them some freedom. Tracking them 24/7 is certainly not giving them even a modicum of freedom.

Trust me, millennials are having TONS of sex. Getting on Grindr right now and walk up and down 9th ave in HK and you’ll have all the proof that you need.

Millennials and Gen Zs are all little whores, I have fucked so many Millennials right in the ass, they’re fantastic. Gen Zs ar just getting in the game and I intend to fuck very many of them too, the ones with daddy issues anyway. They’re cruisy as hell and ready to play. Love em.

Oh, my

They do everything vicariously through Youtube, so I wouldn't be surprised if just by watching someone else have sex, they feel like they've had sex too.

R333 don’t forget about fanfic.

Generation LAME

If they have meltdowns over cyber bullying, I don't know how they're going to manage in any work setting.

I'm either the youngest Xer or oldest Millennial depending on who you ask, but this is a departure from adults sounding the alarm at how feral we were at their age. Movies like [italic] Kids, Bully [/italic] and [italic] thirteen [/italic] certainly didn't help matters much. Maybe parents overparenting these days is a reaction to that. You also see a difference in how adults reacted to the Parkland shooting vs. Columbine. Back then, it was less of a national soul searching and more of an "Oh, well" shrug, followed by deciding that what was wrong with kids was that they were listening to too much Marilyn Manson.

For the record, I don't think coddling these kiddies is necessarily the worst thing, but it goes a long way in explaining why they're afraid to drink, party, raise hell or basically do anything.

Also, I would have been much less apt to have sex and party if I had my mom tracking down my every movement on her phone. That technology thankfully did not exist back then.

Dear Lord in Heaven!

What year were you born, R337? I'm guessing 1980-1984.

This is the digital, streaming age. They can't get away with anything without someone recording it and uploading it or using it as blackmail.

Maybe they'll be like wholesome 1950s teens. Straight outta Pleasantville.

Hopefully

Hopefully not

Are they going to bring back clodhoppers and saying things like Golly! and Gee whiz?

They're not wholesome.

They're just about appearing neo-wholesome, like people above all the drama.

And its a thinner veneer than 1950s due to social media and wide knowledge of all the ways people can be, are, and will be fuckups.

They find it more natural to curate a presence than Millennials do. But the wink wink about it just being a curation is pretty clear.

Lol, the pretense is exhausting... Guess you have to when Big Brother rules.

So far, just in the past few months, I'm not liking what I'm seeing from their generation AT ALL.

Lots of MAGA trash, and they're too young to even be anywhere near that bitter. There's a strong autistic/aspie streak in their generation.

Like those kids from Kentucky in DC today

Or these little shits from just the other day, R349. I don't buy that they're too hamstrung by parents to go out and behave like normal kids. They obviously have no problem behaving like little shitheads in public.

NOT wholesome

This thread is dating us all.

lol, they're going to make people miss millenials as the younguns. trust.

R348 they're not all conservative. Not by a long shot. An article just came out that they have the same progressive views as young adults before them. But just like everything else these days, the ones who are conservative are just more extreme.

Apparently, they're actually even more tolerant than previous generations when it comes to sexual orientations and experimentations. They're not prudes, they're just less interested in sex for reasons that are notably stated in the very enlightening article in R317. Asexuals were not even a thing ten years ago. Now kids just don't feel the need to have sex if they don't want to. Who cares ?

By the way, I don't see how anyone could judge them for not taking drugs or binge-drinking. Really, good for them. Their lack of interest in driving and working is a little bit more concerning. Looks like they're constantly relying on their parents.

Asexuals were a thing 30 years ago. Trust me.

Asexuals always existed, just not a label for them to unite behind. But I doubt so many of these kids are asexual. Either way, I don't see the harm in their more restrained behaviors of sex and drugs, if that is actually the case (many might be just more paranoid and secretive about their activities given the scrutiny they've grown up under, almost a surveillance state).

Their "asexuality" is less of an issue than their complete lack of interpersonal skills and inability to cope without their parents swooping down and making constant excuses for their obnoxious behavior.

Sex sucks but ganging up on an old Native American man is cool bro.

Gen Z here. I’m not sure teenagers don’t engage in risky behaviours today only because they’re constantly spied on by their parents. I’m currently living almost 5000 miles away from my parents because I’m studying abroad this year. Since I left home three years ago, I’ve been free to do whatever I want without dealing with the pressure of hiding it. Yet, much like many other young people apparently, I don’t do drugs, I don’t drink much and I wouldn’t sleep with someone I don’t know - even though I’ve never shamed anyone who does. I think that’s the overall mentality we Gen Zs grew up in, with people constantly saying we shouldn’t be judgmental and care about what others think. We’re getting more and more individualistic. Teens and young adults have embraced the idea that it’s a little less problematic to be special today than it was thirty years ago. That’s why asexuals are less likely to have sex just in order to fit in.

The influence of social media is real though. And I think it plays a big part in the decline of high-risk behaviours. What’s cool and trendy today is to take care of yourself. That’s what the inspirational quotes on IG and elsewhere are all about. It’s well-perceived to be vegan, to be healthy, to play sports, etc. Also, we’re not seen as lame if we don’t party much. ‘Cocooning’ is a big thing today among youngsters. It’s perfectly fine to stay at home and to watch a TV show. That’s the Netflix & chill culture.

Of course I’m talking about my personal experience and that may not be a general trend. Some teens are definitely being more cautious because of their parents (I never had too, my parents never stalked me), but I think other factors come into play.

A Gen Zer posting on Datalounge?

Lolol

Lol I knew I would be Sure, Jan’d. I can assure you I’m a Gen Z. Obviously I’m one of the very few who write here. But I’m not much younger than the millennial posters in their mid-20s.

I believe you r363, care to share your age?

R364 I’m 20 !

R365 you're too young to exist here. Flee now before this pit of vipers steals your youth and sucks your soul dry!

Awwwwwww that’s sweet!!! You’re just an itty-bitty lil’ thing! You shouldn’t be playing in the alley with us, you’re too young and innocent for this place.

R365, be careful here, you won’t be the same person you were when you arrived. It’s both good and bad.

We drink the blood of virgins here and asexual Gen Z make tasty snacks.

Present your hole R363.

R370, you let that precious child BE, you tramp! I found him first!!!!

Lmao ! I’m definitely going with R371

Welcome to DL, R360. You sound very smart and levelheaded. Don't let the negativity scare you off!

I'm TWICE your age, young Gen Z! OMG!

Oh Baby Z, you really should scram.

I started hanging out here when I was 21, just a Baby Y with no IRL friends and a crushing depressive fugue, and today I’m still here and no more enlightened or fulfilled than I was then. I hear what you say, that it’s important to you kids of now to find peace and take care of your wellbeing - you will not find that here.

R369 has it. Spending time here will make you a little bit wittier and more savvy plus will give you company whenever you need and want, but that company will jade you a lovely shade of green too. It’s not malicious, it’s just who we are. If you want to stay here then be prepared to linger for at least several years and emerge looking and sounding older than your young years.

Consider this your caveat, Youngling.

My gen Z nephew swears "netflix and chill" is code for having sex.

R360 Well there you all have it. Straight from the mouth of babe(ygays). They're not having sex, plus the reasons why. Case SOLVED!

Thank you R373, it’s very nice of you !

R374 I was joking. Lmao

R375 Thanks for your advice, and you do have a point. This is definitely not a place to take care of one’s wellbeing. I’m a baby but I’m not a newbie, I’ve been here 3 years. It’s true that there’s a lot of negativity on DL, but it’s not so much worse than what we have on social media with kids constantly harassing each other. Also I’m gay, and it was always the place where I could connect with other gay people and learn from them. I’ve never mentioned my age before because I thought it’s the kind of thing that gets you killed here. Turns out you’re being more friendly and fun than I expected ! Again thank you all for your words and your warnings. There must be more decent people here than we think.

R376, your nephew is correct. That's what the term means.

Which makes it that much more interesting as to why R360 used it to describe NOT having sex.

Yes, Netflix & chill can be a code for sex but it’s not always the case. Sometimes it just means watching Netflix. Also, I was not talking about sex, I was talking about the fact that kids today don’t party much because it’s not perceived as lame to stay at home - whatever you’re planning to do at home.

Who will carry on the fine American tradition of trashy, drunken partying and reveling?

Give me the young every time. Nature knows what she's doing.

No one, R381. I hear they're going to have to start shooting seasons of The Real World in nunneries and monasteries once they take over

Only on Datalounge would this be considered a crisis worthy of 400 posts!

They suck and they're boring as shit!

the first generation to spend friday and saturday nights at home.

Idiots. That's the best thing about your 20s.

[quote] Kevin Spacey is probably not too fond of them. He got away for years with being handsy with young millennial twinks, and the moment these Z kids came of age, he gets in trouble.

This cracked me up.

[quote] I think Millennials will hate Gen Z once they get into the workforce.

I foresee millennials being brutal to Gen Z in that same predicament.

They are preparing themselves against the coming STDpocalypse.

How do people measure these things?

With a tape measure, Rose.

Good for them.

These little shits wouldn't know what sex is even if a cock ended up 8 inches inside their mouth.

And yeah, R224 is right. This whole thread is one big fat apology for them. Their whole existence is being able to behave badly and have everyone blame millennials instead of them.

Who needs messy sex when their is such excellent porn?

R360 is so cute.

I feel sorta bad for their lameness.

They're going to be mistaken as millennials for at least another 10 years.

Gee R400...great.

Life is such a chore when it's boring.

They truly are their parents' kids.

[quote] a Gen Xer criticizing the Millennial work ethic.

Cuz they suck.

Because who sucks, my dear, R404?

They have my sympathy. Sex is the only good thing in this fucked up country these days.

I'm glad I had sex when I was young, cause I sure as hell ain't having none now!

Hmmm. A lot of vitriol for what amounts to a gaggle of scared confused imperilled kids. Normally I’m all for piling on but this shit is like picking on the handicapped.

For parity I’ll let the kiddos here (age 22 & under) take a free shot or ask any rude questions of me (a technically-virginal Millennial) they may have. G’head youngins

[quote] I foresee millennials being brutal to Gen Z in that same predicament.

Oh please. I think, like R408, we'll be all sensitive and actually treat them way kinder than Xers and boomers ever treated us, who btw went out of their way to act like total twats.

The conservative ones never get laid. It's really sad.