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OP weeks old you car wash cunt

Edith is a marchioness now, ranking higher than you do, MARY!

[quote] you car wash cunt

This, from the Dollar Tree turd sniffer?

[quote] Edith is a marchioness now

There's still time for her to mess that up.

Trust, bitches.

I want to see the sexy gay butler right, ahem, 'in action'.

Doesn't a dramatic whipping orf of the dust covahs cause the servants to corf?

If either of the Bateses are in legal trouble than this movie is three beats away from being a parody of itself and/or an SNL skit.

What is a "car wash cunt"?

Joanne Froggat gets top billing.

R7 this time it's the young Bates' turn. You know, the baby Anna gave birth to in the series' final episode.

"Honey, I'm more woman than you---and more man than you'll evah get!"

Bertie will come out to Edy as the long-time companion of Uncle Peter's (who REALLY didn't die of malaria...)

R8 Well, honey, if you have to ask......I first learnt it from gay spirit animal, Suzy Green...

I like Anna and Baxter's new bob haircuts. Can't really see them in this clip but there are pictures from the set around.

Don't forget MY new hairdo! Andy says I look like "The IT Girl," Clara Bow!

Love this, all those tattoos, who knew???

I hope there are many closeups of Branson's ass and bulge.

After he loses about a hundred pounds, sure.

No! That beefy ass is the work of The Lord.

I just found out that there was a Mary Talbot in Henry VIII's time. Was she as big a slut, I wonder?

Mr Pamuk's big uncut cock here!

Any questions?

^ Edith had that first.

[quote] R6: Doesn't a dramatic whipping orf of the dust covahs cause the servants to corf?

I had a workman who dutifully laid down a dirt covah before he worked, then when he was done, did the same thing, throwing the dirt everywhere. I’m sure in practice, the prows at DA fold-up the covers and shake them outside afterward.

Change has certainly come to Downton Abbey!

Is Mrs Patmore still fat?

No, R27, she went on the keto diet, had some work done, and is now wearing a size 0 and five inch heels around the kitchen.

^ Mary, on the other hand, has turned into a sow.

Pamuk was Turkish - he was definitely cut.

You could drive a carriage into my delicious foreskin.

The Butler has aged out of being hot and sexy, unfortunately. Too many cigarettes, I guess.

^ Thomas still knows how to wind a clock, though.

Mrs. Hughes is THRILLED with Charlie's tremor. It makes for some marital bliss, I can tell you.

After re-watching DA eleventy billion times I've come to the conclusion that if given the option I'd much prefer to live in Lady Rosamund's house in Belgrave Square rather than the Abbey. Which would you choose?

Also, only 7 more months til the movie comes out!

R35, yes I would prefer Lady Rosamund's house to Downton Abbey. Edith had an apartment in London as well. I would have preferred Edith's apartment. Downton Abbey seems like it was in the sticks. (Nothing wrong with living in the country, it just seemed odd that they were dressed up all the time in the country.)

I also would have preferred Spratt, as a butler, to Carson.

Spratt was Cousin Violet's (Maggie Smith) butler.

I would prefer Lady Rosamund's Belgrade Square footman in the latter episodes. His name was William. He had no face time and just had walk-ons. He looked young and built and had broad shoulders and handsome looks, from what little I could see.

Will Bates and Anna be going to prison in the movie?

Joanne Froggat said in an interview in today's DM that in the movie she and Bates "have an 18 month old son", so the movie picks up a mere 18 months after the finale, they'll be in 1927. Anything interesting happen in 1927 that this story could possible revolve around? I understand they reasonably couldn't go too far into the future in order for the Dowager to still be alive. So what will we get, Mary had a baby, maybe Edith had a baby and poor Branson is probably still single. Wish they would just do an annual tv Christmas special instead.

Edith stole the Lindbergh baby!

Branson will ravish an eager Mrs. Pelham in the cloakroom while Edith up-loads the whole thing to YouTube. This should dislodge any further sticks up her butt where dear Edith's reputation is concerned.

Obviously the Dowager dies. The trailer gives that away with the quick glimpse of a cortege of courtiers on horseback in full livery.

"I could croak it..."

Who will end up with the gay son or the lesbian daughter?

Early Lead Actress Oscar buzz for Joanne Froghead.

I liked Froggatt in "Dark Angel."

JF was good in Liar too.

[quote]this time it's the young Bates' turn. You know, the baby Anna gave birth to in the series' final episode.

Lots of opportunities for references to "Master Bates."

Young Master Bates is a bed wetter and a firebug. Word is, he also tortures the pooch.

[quote](Nothing wrong with living in the country, it just seemed odd that they were dressed up all the time in the country.)

They dressed up and changed clothes 10 times a day because they had nothing else to do.

R43 - you think? My take on the Guards type horse parade alongside snippets of bystanders waving Union Jacks is perhaps more something with Royalty? It didn't seem like a funeral cortege in the Trailer glimpse to me.

The Irish cook on the Wendy Williams show today said she lived in the actual Downton Abbey, or next to it or something, I do know they showed a picture of it LOL

When the child is naughty, there will be Anna, quavering, "Ohh Mastah Betttss. . . ." Cue swelling violin music.

Don't forget, Barrow is now butler. He can hire a few hot footmen and liven the place up.

r52, I decided afr watching the trailer that the horsemen and the flagg waving were actually two different scenes, just that one immediately followed the other, so I decided that they are trying to put us off the trail! Dowager down mi'lord!

Allen Leech did say about the movie "bring kleenex" and also that Branson gets the ending he should have had or deserved. I decipher from that that Dowager dies and Branson marries the editor lady (Laura?) or someone new. Has there been any confirmation or pictures of the actress who played the editor being back for the movie?

Do you mean Laura Carmichael, who plays Edith? She’s already married and is a marchioness now.

Will poor drab Daisy ever blossom?

r57 No, the woman editor Lady Edith hired to run her magazine and who caught the bouquet at Edith's wedding, her name was Laura something and Branson kept chatting her up and telling he "liked strong women".

Branson comes out in the movie, and settles down with Thomas to run a b&b.

[quote] Will poor drab Daisy ever blossom?

Because Julian is not that imaginative, Daisy will end up in jail for stabbing somebody in the neck.

Did Julian work in The General Strike of 1926 into the TV series? I can't remember. That was a big deal, historically.

I didn't see Elizabeth McGovern in the What could that mean?trailer.

Huh?

That she keels over, R63? Probably not unless she wants to be written out. I think Maggie Smith wants to be written out, though.

I could see Wobbert kicking the bucket, though I bet he won’t. He had a health scare a while back. I could see Cora being one of those rich old widows that lives forever and does charity. Maybe getting involved with the art world again or something.

Thomas will get busted by the local constabulary for pimping out the footmen.

If Cora were widowed, you know she'd have Richard E. Grant back for a leer at her art.

It’s not a funeral in the trailer.

Never have a funeral in a trailer. There's barely any room for the barely-living.

They've put out some posters for the movie, I'm looking forward to catching up with the Crawleys and their fashion.

and Marchioness Edith

and Barrow of course.

Will someone perhaps take a dramatic early plane ride? It's about that time.

I hope they get a prettier kid for Edith. Those twins who played Marigold had Downs or something.

I like that name, Marigold.

All the same kids are coming back, the Marigold twins look pretty much the same, maybe a tad bit better. Sybbie actress is the only non-twin.

IIRC, there was one child actor who was obviously more natural than the others. I think it was the girl who played Sybbie.

The dog who played Isis was a really good actor. Not joking.

One of the first british shows i watched besides Prisoner In Cellblock H..... Lady Mary and her mother looked the same age. I did not like Lady Mary's husband and was glad he died. Lady Edith was always attempting to steal Lady Mary's shine.Getting pregnant like that...tsk,tsk.

Lady Mary's mother-in-law was horrible also. I was so glad the Lord's mum always picked fights wth her.I wanted to see the grand dames thump.

Can’t hold a candle to Upstairs, Downstairs from back in the day (1973-4 or so.)

Production values and acting are SO much better on Downton. And not as stagey. Coo, I LOVE that Beryl Patmore---ain't she a stitch!

Carson: I'm afraid that young man's interest in Daisy might not be entirely proper.

Patmore: Mr. Carson all women like a man to show a little interest now and then. Preferably in a manner that isn't entirely proper.

I'll be first in line to see it! I need some new decorating ideas.

R82 You'll be next to Cockgobbler Aaron Schock who designed his office based on Downton Abbey

r83 Seriously?

I loved Mrs.Patmore....her character was very lovable and interesting.

It's gonna be another sumptuous snoozer unless the randy ghost of Mr Pamuke appears inside Lady Mary's over starched knickers.

I hope Mary starts becoming a bitter alcoholic, and really lets it rip.

She's insufferable.

Mary's...complicated. She's already lived through some complicated times, as have they all.. Can you imagine how a stuffy social set-up changed when, what young men weren't killed in WWI wound up dying of the Spanish Flu right after it? A whole generation of virile young guys...gone. Society had to be massively over-hauled: who got to give the orders, who was left to carry them out, what things mattered to whom anymore, etc... Maybe many things in British society had out-lived their usefulness after the war, but when you watch those things go, it makes you sigh a little.

R88, if only Downton had explored what you typed. It really was an extraordinary time to be alive. Julian Fellowes is not the writer to put together that kind of show though.

Is Auntie Julian writing this shit storm? She could barely get through the series without putting someone in jail.

During WWII, women were ambulance drivers and nurses and journalists in dangerous places. After the war, a lot of women married American soldiers and left. It would be interesting if they showed some of that on Downton. I could see Lady Edith as a war correspondent writing about living in London during the Blitz, while Lady Mary rolled bandages or something for the Red Cross. They’d probably open Downton as a convalescent hospital again. Or maybe as a military headquarters, they did that during the war.

Cecil Beaton (a famous gay society photographer, the Annie Leibovitz of his day). wrote a book called The Years Between, in which he talks about house parties with his upper-crust friends in London during the Blitz. Then in the daytime he would photograph the bomb damage from the night before. He told a funny story about playing cards with his host and some others late into the night. The hostess went to bed, her husband stayed up. She wanted him to come to bed because she was scared of all the bombing, so she got on top of a table in the room directly above them and jumped off. They were so startled by the closeness of the “bomb,” that they rushed upstairs to find out if the hostess was all right. She admitted what she did. They had a good laugh.

This sounds like something Lady Mary would do.

R89, I believe the series [italic]did[/italic] explore the changes that the war and social change brought to Downton. One way tha this was done was in the cleverexchanges between Martha Levinson and the Dowager. Besides their obvious differences, I was impressed by how disgusted American Martha was by an adherence to British traditions and how mortified Violet was by the idea of embracing change.

Violet Crawley, Dowager Countess of Grantham : You Americans never understand the importance of tradition. Martha Levinson : Yes we do. We just don't give it power over us... history and tradition took Europe into a world war. Maybe you should think about letting go of its hand.

The changing roles and flexibility of the male servants showed that guys had new options after the war.

R92, it's true that Martha and Granny would go back and forth about the differences between the US and Britain, but R88's post asks (I think) for more than dialogue.

BTW - Shirley's performance was awful... she should have politely declined.

Shirley wasn't performing. She was gaga.

The film story line involves a visit from King George to Downton.

I think in the film that Lord Grantham will die unexpectedly, triggering a major plot line of how Downton is to be maintained in the future, as grand estates are less and less economic.

Fukchk

Will we see Thomas and his uncut cock spread the marble ass cheeks of some upper-class prat and plant his seed deeply?

You won't see the seed planting, but maybe there'll be a cream pie shot afterwards...

R97- Two gay boys

DL Homos do you think we might get to see some COCK/ASS this time, considering it's a movie?

I'm surprised that they never killed off the Countess. The Earl could marry a younger woman, and if she had a son, Mary's son would not inherit the estate. Lots of tension there.

[quote]R97- Two gay boys

For you R101

I 'd really like to see this film gives Rob Collier James some decent acting opportunities that finally kick his career into high gear.

I agree about Rob, hope his career takes off. Wonder why his good buddy Allen can't make some introductions for him in Hollywood. Sames goes for Dan Stevens although I don't know how close Rob & Dan are/were.

All the lovely upper-class prats with speadable cheeks died in the Great War, alas.

Would Master George (who should have a place title like Viscount or something, I would have thought) be sid-elined for the earldom if Wobert got remarried?

I sat through that POS "The Ritual" on Netflix just to watch Rob James-Collier.

I'm rewatching Downton Abbey. I hate to say this, but the actors who played Matthew Crawley and Tom Branson were terrible. The actress who played Edith was also terrible, she only had one or two different expressions (quivering would be one of them). The actor who played Barrow was really good, though.

Downton Abbey, in retrospect, was only really any good through the first half of its first season.

My local PBS station has been airing Downton on Sunday afternoons from 1:00 to 6:00 and I've really been enjoying re-watching it for the gazillionth time. Anyone else?

It's on Amazon Prime, so I've been watching it again. The first time I watched it, I hated Cora and her facial expression (head titled down, eyes looking up) and how she talked. This time around, it doesn't bother me so much.

I’ve been rewatching it on Amazon Prime while I work. It’s like comfort food.

R103 but Mary would still own half of Downton because Matthew willedZ it to her.

Will ^

Four more months until the movie, can't wait. Branson better get some kind of a story and good ending, he got short changed in the series finale.

Agree re-watching is like comfort food.

Branson never had a good story line except for getting together with Sybil. I hate to say it, but I think Allan Leech is not a good actor.

They just ran final episode on local PBS station. I like how the Dowager and Mrs. Crawley became friends as did Lady Mary and Tom Branson.

You can tell by the trailer that the big event of the movie will be a Royal Visit.

So who gets to fuck George, Duke of Kent?

Official trailer.

Thomas gets kissed by a . . . . (gasp!) MAN!

Lady Mary gets word that O'Brien has gone Hawaiian and changed her name to Hilo Hattie.

Twenty seconds in and already there's talk of modernity. As if we haven't been listening to how times are changing since the very first season. This is Fellowes' worst writing habit.

Thomas is getting an (anachronistic) happy ending, finally!

[quote] I hate to say it, but I think Allan Leech is not a good actor.

He was pretty terrific in The Imitation Game as the surprise villain.

So in the traile I can't see a ring on Mrs. Patmore or Miss Baxter or Daisy's fingers. I expected Mrs. Patmore and Mr. Mason to be married by now as well Baxter and Moseley and Daisy and Andy. I read the movie takes place 18 months after finale.

The credits also still list them by their old names not married names.

Or maybe Julian Fellowes is just being sneaky with the credits.

Also, Branson appears to be dancing with a new dark haired woman not the blonde editor who worked for Edith's magazine that was suggested as a love interest in the finale. I thought the blonde editor was adorable, would have liked to have seen them coupled up.

"It's 1927, you can't stop progress."

"It's 1928, you know, the world is changing."

"It's 1929. This mad world we know as The Jazz Age must stop some time."

Hated the Branson storyline. Insisting his daughter was “Irish” (not how it works this side of the pond, I appreciate Americans who’ve never set foot in whatever European nation insist they’re Irish, Italian, etc etc etc) and winding up becoming some kind of landed gent because one of the daughters of the family was stupid enough to marry the damn help. Ugh, get rid of him.

"It's 1927, and in just a few years, a brilliant actress will be born who is my re-incarnation. I predict that she will win a bunch of awards and end up playing me on some new fangled invention.." (Snickers)

I wonder if those playing Sybil and Matthew would rather be in this film than whatever project they’re now each working on. Neither have exactly set the acting world alight since getting out of their contracts with those untimely on-screen deaths (particularly Sybil).

The guy who played Matthew has worked steadily. Lady Mary started in Godless and I enjoyed it.

R129, FYI, I just watched an episode of Sunday Morning on CBS that had a story about an Italian technicality. If you’re American and have Italian blood, you can claim Italian citizenship.

They interviewed a couple of women that had an Italian grandfather that are now preparing to move to Italy. They asked them why. They hinted that it was because of Trump, and they wanted “a place to go if we needed it.” And once you get your Italian citizenship, you can live in the EU.

Just thought I’d mention it in case some of you can escape.

R132 yes, I can see he has worked steadily from IMDb but he’s not exactly done anything stellar.

You don’t have to be stellar. I think making a nice living as an actor qualifies as successful. Not everyone has a burning desire to be a movie star and it’s more detrimental to your existence if you do.

I love the character of Tom and the actor is fine. The show really missed him when he left. Tom helps keep them somewhat humble.

Dan Stevens appeared in a successful Broadway revival of "The Heiress" a few years ago. Elizabeth McGovern was on Broadway within the past two years in "Time and the Conways" as the matriarch of a similarly wealthy family. Her character would have bitch slapped Mary off the planet.

The actress who played Lady Sybil had her phone hacked years ago and showed her rimming her bf!

R135 I get your point, except Dan Stevens quit to make it in Hollywood.

He got his own show, Legion, and the critics like him in it, despite the show going off the rails in the second season. Third and last season is coming next month.

And he played The Beast in a Disney movie. He's the most successful of the bunch!

[quote] So in the traile[r] I can't see a ring on Mrs. Patmore or Miss Baxter or Daisy's fingers. I expected Mrs. Patmore and Mr. Mason to be married by now as well Baxter and Moseley and Daisy and Andy.

The marriages of Anna/Bates & Carson/Mrs. Hughes were unusual (maybe anachronistic). I could be wrong, but in those days, service people remained single.

R125, it's not necessarily anachronistic for Thomas to have a happy ending - read the book A Class Apart

R133 I have Italian blood and I would love Italian citizenship. Dual citizenship. I don’t want to give up my American benefits of social security. But I’m not retired yet that’s a long way off.

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[quote]r91 Cecil Beaton (a famous gay society photographer, the Annie Leibovitz of his day)

Though she's a much more gifted portrait artist. He was a society photographer who didn't ever break free from that style, whose real gift lay in design.

They really fucked up Lady Edith. She should have been some Bohemian Bloomsbury type, in a whole love-hate thing with her family. Not some glorified frau with a title.

[quote]r75 I like that name, Marigold.

I was trying to remember her name, and only came up with Buttercup.

R138 more like she was into shit..... wanted to sniff his ‘dirty’ hole. He wasn’t into it, but she was a woman determined..... gross

To bad Lady Rose (played by now movie actress Lily James) won’t be back to do the Charleston or fuck BBC.

Too ^

Oops -

Well if Highclere Castle is in need of repair I think the solution is for DA to come back as a weekly series thereby providing Earl Carnarvon with the income he needs to repair the place. Win-Win.

I expect that my favorite bitch will be featured in the film.

Or a gay sex destination? Servants quarters converted to rooms and maze, bdsm rooms, but fetishy English country house attractions, and traditional English service and dress for lunch and dinner.

The wigs look very wiggy.

It amazes me how many big budget TV and film productions have absolutely PITIFUL wig game.

[quote] They really fucked up Lady Edith. She should have been some Bohemian Bloomsbury type, in a whole love-hate thing with her family. Not some glorified frau with a title.

In the writer's and fans' eyes, Edith reached the pinnacle of success in that final episode. Throughout the series, she was an object of pity (in love with Anthony Strallan -- I didn't understand the attraction). The wedding was her big reward. Edith was often sobbing and whimpering. She seemed to only have a couple of modes as an actor.

Agree that some of the wigs (Cousin Violet, Mrs. Hughes) were horrible.

Bertie is hot, though. She got a title and some decent dick. Plus a father for that crosseyed little crotch dropping of hers.

The problem with wigs and hair in general in films is that they're usually not seen until the day they're first filmed. Movies generally don't do wardrobe tests that include the finished wigs and hair, for whatever reason.

So when the wig/hair makes its first appearance on the set, no one wants to take the time and money to fix it. And very often the actor has more control over the look than anyone else.

totally disagree with the writers and fans on that one, r157. Totally stupid fate for somebody like that. Some kind of really amateur Romance Writer nonsense. "Then the beautiful rich Man swooped in and took the ugly duckling back to his palace of pleasure, where at last she could laugh at all the bitches who laughed at her."

[quote]They just ran final episode on local PBS station. I like how the Dowager and Mrs. Crawley became friends as did Lady Mary and Tom Branson.

I agree it made nice story telling and that people can't remain entirely static... but Fellowes stopped writing with any context and Little House on the Prairied the characters. Everybody got nice. Even Violet, in her final scenes, declares: I believe in love! Seriously. Like Violet Crawley would ever say that. I had hoped they might make a real drama for the big screen but this is just a Christmas special on film.

[quote]In the writer's and fans' eyes, Edith reached the pinnacle of success in that final episode. Throughout the series, she was an object of pity (in love with Anthony Strallan -- I didn't understand the attraction).

She worked hard to pretend there was, and she no doubt would have been a good wife to him, but the attraction was trading spinsterhood for a marriage.

No way Marchoness Edith wouldn’t have at least a nanny.

Agreed r161, even Soap Opera Costume Dramas need continuity. In fact, maybe more than most. Something's gotta hold it together, and it can't just be the whims of the writers.

I think Fellowes only ever had roughly three seasons of plot.

You can tell that from mid season 4 until about 4 episodes before the end, the entire narrative was treading water, trying to fill the gap until the end.

Pacing was definitely not his strength. Nor was ending a story. Having the whole shit happen with Baxter, and then we never see the man who did all that to her? Violation of Storytelling 101.

I call b.s. on the whole "no nanny, valet or maid" for a Marquess/Marchioness. They just ramble around that big castle and get themselves ready for big parties and such, I don't think so. Or have they lost it all like Rose's father Shrimpy?

I need to see Bertie's uncut cock.

Preferably fucking Branson's beautiful fat ass.

How Vulgar

I would’ve thought Edith would’ve had Bertie’s baby by now.

Hope Thomas finally finds true love.

or at least gets laid, r170

I liked Downton Abbey, saw the entire series, and will see the movie. But watching the trailer, I realized that someone who never saw the show would watch the trailer and think, this is about...nothing. Nothing happens. Oh, Lady Mary frets about putting on a party...... but otherwise, why is anyone waiting for this????

I think the audience has to be a completely a pre-sold audience.

What crime will Bates be accused of this time?

so happy to see Thomas kissed

[quote] so happy to see Thomas kissed

Thomas and Thomas should fuck

Anna and Bates will be caught doing something that violates parole. Back to the big house for both of them!

I think Bates really did kill that first wife. He has it in him!

Does the theme remind anyone else of x-files?

The reviews will be awesome because they will be so savage... R172 is exactly right: nothing happens. Same old, same old... times are changing at Downtown Abbey, Carson to the rescue... zzzz.

BRING BACK ZOMBIE SYBILL! Now that would be story telling.

R165, I agree that, from the trailer, it seems ridiculous, although perhaps in the film a plausible explanation will be managed. In any case, they won't need to do up their own buttons or iron their own clothes. The staff at Downton will serve them, as they would any guest who arrived without servants of his or her own.

Edith should be a lesbian.

Full theatrical trailer released, Looks amazing.

Violet's wig looks better in R182 's post!

R182, meet r122 - a mere 60 posts above.

Thanks for reposting, r182. I missed the earlier post and had no intention of reading the whole thread.

Seeing the same post more than once is a MUCH smaller inconvenience than reading an 100+ reply thread

Are the winds of war starting during the movie?

Okay, enough meta talk. Back to Dame Maggie's tiara, bitches!

Why is the king dressed in a common trench coat?

His fancy coat got splashed with mud when he had the car stopped so he could feed the ducks.

It wasn't mud.

Long before "Downton Abbey", Dame Maggie played Queen Alexandra of England in "All the King's Men", a very gentle lady who would have blushed by some of the things that Lady Violet has said. The film features a young Phyllis Logan (Mrs. Hughes). Dame Maggie's Queen is concerned about the disappearance of British soldiers during World War I and has an official investigation made with tragic results.

Glad to see that Thomas will have that glorious uncut sizemeat serviced.

It seems to me the whole story is in the trailer. A bit thin. As someone wrote earlier, it should have been a Christmas special.

Meh, I like the fact that it looks like an episode rather than some sweeping, self-important movie trying to cover a long span of time.

Didn't the Earl claim earlier money made from letting Downton tape there were going to repairs? He also did tours. I guess it wasn't enough? The pictures I saw were pretty horrible decay. What a shame. Will British taxpayers have to save it.

[quote] I realized that someone who never saw the show would watch the trailer and think, this is about...nothing.

I saw all of DA and I saw the trailer and it still looks like a big yawning nothing. I wish they had moved it closer to WW2 when all kinds of things were going on.

It's a shame they just made another episode. The only vaguely different thing is Thomas get kissed. Otherwise, just more of the same. It was never going to win Best Screenplay but the critics will rip this apart. Are there enough old people to go to the theatres to actually see it?

I wonder what Bates goes to prison for this time?

^ Child porn and being a crack dealer

Why is Lady Mary wearing Angelina's wig from CHANGELING?

[quote]r182 Full theatrical trailer released, Looks amazing.

It does not look "amazing" - it looks pathetic.

The movie's about a luncheon for the queen?

[italic]Fascinating![/italic] (not)

[quote] I wonder what Bates goes to prison for this time?

He left a special "present" in Mrs. Pattimore's soup.

The essence of drama is conflict. What conflict will Uncle Julian set in motion to make the movie compelling? Or will it just be more of the same twee, trivial comfort food?

I can't help but wonder if the movie will end with the Dowager dying after the thrill of the King's visit. Maggie swore up and down she was done with DA and any further DA tv or movies should open with her funeral. Maybe they talked her into to doing it by promising the funeral but only at the end instead of at the beginning.

[quote] The essence of drama is conflict. What conflict will Uncle Julian set in motion to make the movie compelling? Or will it just be more of the same twee, trivial comfort food?

It looks like the "drama" will be Mary Crawley in distress; Carson-out-of-retirement to the rescue. I liked Downton Abbey, but that final episode was ridiculous (Anna giving birth in Mary's bedroom). The sympathetic portrayal of the land owners as benevolent employers already made you suspend disbelief. The writing went over the edge.

Maybe some conflict will come from Mary having to treat Edith as her equel?

R182 I agree. It will be great fun to see all the characters in those lavish settings again.

R23 Mr. Pamuk was Turkish. Surely he was circumcised! That's where Mary developed her passion for circumcised cocks.

It's a movie maybe we'll get to see some cock and balls.

R195 it's not class high enough for taxpayers to save. Few country houses are. If any?

Seems like they could just turn Highclere into a tourist attraction, charge entry fees, and use the income to maintain the house.

It's open to the public. The price tag is in the millions.

All these TV actors flaws will be immediately apparent on the big screen

Who on Downton have American accents in real life?

In retrospect DA was very lucky that Dan Stevens and the youngest daughter (I've already forgotten her name) opted to leave the series because they forced Fellowes into some major plot complications that the series sorely needed. Can you imagine if they'd stayed and were still with the series??

They really should have killed off a couple of other major characters over the years to jolt the plodding plots. Thomas the Footman (and Rob James- Collier's career) would have certainly benefited with a tragic death after a dramatic sexual encounter.

I don't think any of the regular characters have American accents in real life. (Shirley MacLaine, I'm not counting as a regular character.) Some the actors had the same accents IRL (Daisy, Mrs. Hughes, Lady Edith (IMO)).

Official trailer just out.

[quote]I don't think any of the regular characters have American accents in real life.

Um....

Is the Earl of Grantham an American Actor? Or Thom?

They're both British.

It looks a bit childish to me.

It might please the audience it is aimed at, though.

At the same time, what made the success of the first season was that things happened that you didn't normally expect to see on Masterpeice Thater on a Sunday evening.

It became fuddy duddy, tame and repetitive after a few seasons.

I hope they have success and make their fans happy. But I wonder if the fans will pay for what used to be free and easily accessible.

What is more, what is tolerated on tv might be more harshly judged by film critics. The plot seems very twee. Again, it is aimed at the fans who wants to see their favorite characters again but in a cute, unrealisticly happy context. It is ok, but does not make great art.

And once again, the trailer seems to reveal everything.

So the premise of the film is that the King's staff and Earl's staff don't get along?

That's hardly the plot line of a feature film.

You can't have an epic movie after how many seasons of quiet intimate drama at Downton. Fans want the familiar and wouldn't recognise that as their Downton. So yes, it's basically a regular series finale, but experienced on the big screen so you can really luxuriate in all that splendour. I am completely on board with this approach.

If you liked My Dinner With Andre, you'll love My Dinner With the King.

[quote] It does not look "amazing" - it looks pathetic. The movie's about a luncheon for the queen?

Honey THE QUEEN, not you and your friends.

Only movie I'll see in the theater this year so far and I was a theater manager who saw four or five movies a week, even on my day off.

Wonder if the bickersons Spratt and Denker will make an appearance.

It would have been a real coup for this film to bring back Siobhan Finneran who played the evil ladies maid in the first season and tried to kill Elizabeth McGovern with a bar of wet soap. And who would blame her?

I wonder what really happened with Siobhan Finneran, I always got the feeling it was not an amicable parting.

The actress is never mentioned by Julian in interviews when addressing the exit story lines he wrote for Dan and Jessica, she also left in S3 but not a peep about it. She also didn't attend that big BAFTA Award DA got. Dan showed up for the BAFTA thing despite Julian's not so well hidden contempt for him. We all know (suspect) why Jessica doesn't attend these things.

I do recall from early interviews when she was still on the show that Siobhan is very close to Sophie and Rob.

I've read that Julian is very thin skinned and anything less than glowing praise from the cast about the writing is taken as a slight. Allegedly Brendan Coyle fell out of favor when he wasn't fawning enough about the prison story line in interviews and subsequently didn't get any more big stories after that. The reports of his drinking probably didn't help either. Elizabeth had to backtrack on a comment she made that Julian mistook for criticism too. I read all this back when it was still on the air and there were many active DA forums, so don't have anything to link right now.

Maybe O'Brien could return as a zombie and really make an appearance? O'Brine goes straight for the grandchildren, but before she can start muching on George, Thomas gets her in the head with a candlestick, Howeverm O'Brien had staggered inDownton via the kitchen and bitten Mrs. Patmore...

DRAMA at Downton!

Daisy kills Patmore (who's now a zombie too!) by beating her with a copper pot.

Will the candlestick be cleaned and polished so there's no trace of O'Brien's brains before the Queen arrives? Can Daisy, get all of the meals into the hands of the staff for the Queen without Patmore's constant nagging and cajoling?

Will Thomas get rewarded for saving the Crawley's (yet again) by getting to snog the police who have arrived to warn the Crawley's of the pending zombie apocolypse?

For R230... from Wikipedia: Finneran announced her departure in March 2013, ahead of the fourth series,[48] explaining that she had been signed for only three series and did not wish to extend her contract, adding: "When I stop loving something, I stop doing it."[49] Later that year, when asked by the Radio Times how her character's abrupt exit would be handled, Finneran retorted: "I’m hoping she’s flung off the roof of the Abbey".

Wouldn't O'Brien being found dead at the base of Downton, after being thrown off have been a fabulous, series long story line?

Thanks r232, lol, now that would have been an epic story line and far better than nonsense murder story lines we got.

I can imagine how 3 years could be enough for an actor to do on a show with such a large ensemble. Their idea of an acting job isn't giving a meaningful look once a week as they pour a cup of tea, or a sigh as they dry some dishes.

Downton Abbey was always too DESPERATE to please a 21st century audience. Nonsense like Sybil marrying the chauffeur. On Upstairs Downstairs if Elizabeth Bellamy had decided to marry Watkins the chauffeur Lady Marjorie would have had a fit.

If Fellowes wrote the script....I foresee tears from disappointed fans. You all have forgotten what hack writing is like. I think it'll tank after the first weekend.

[quote] “I signed up to do three series and that was all I wanted to do,” the 47-year-old actress told the British publication. “I talked it through with my family and it was the right decision for all of us. I had great fun doing it but I just didn’t want to do it any more. I decided this before we even did the last series. When I stop loving something, I stop doing it.”

That was Siobhan Finneran's explanation for why she left, according to this BBC America article.

O'Brien was one of my favorite characters, the death stare was awesome. The story lines involving Mr. Bates being in jail and then Anna being in jail were, indeed, tedious.

Finneran was good as the sister of Sarah Lancashire (I think that's her name), the lead actress in Happy Valley. Sorry there were only 2 seasons of that show--it was so good. That was post her departure from Downton.

R238 Ha just coming on to say the same thing, she was unrecognizable

[quote]That was Siobhan Finneran's explanation for why she left, according to this BBC America article.

She quit because she was tired of nobody being able to pronounce her fucking name.

How the hell is the Dowager still alive? The show starts in 1912 and they're in 1927.

To be fair, pretty much every relationship, attitude and seemingly class-crossing friendship in Downton can be found in aristo families in the early 20th century - there were freethinking, socially liberal, open-minded lords and ladies and a fair number of declasse ones who ended up in unexpected partnerships. Obviously, these weren't all in the one family, of course. But Downton is no different from any other long-running tv series in the catalogue of scandals, disasters, coincidences that overpower one family, hospital, police station, school, law firm etc.

Cousin Rose (the equivalent of Cousin Oliver of Brady Bunch) shows up in Season 3, episode 8. Maybe that indicated loss of steam in the plot ideas.

[quote]How the hell is the Dowager still alive? The show starts in 1912 and they're in 1927.

I was starting to wonder about the dog and how long it was going to live.

They need to get some pugs at Downton

Considering people looked much older back then, The Dowager could have been 65-70 in 1912 (with a 45-50 year old son) and thus 80-85 in 1927.

The Dowager's age is the least of their problems.

The show's later seasons were at best, thin on plot.

This looks to basically be a drag show with various people doing Downton drag, but no real thrust to the plot to speak of.

[quote]Cousin Rose (the equivalent of Cousin Oliver of Brady Bunch) shows up in Season 3, episode 8. Maybe that indicated loss of steam in the plot ideas.

Rose was Sybil, without the reincarnation or bad class taste in men.

[quote] We all know (suspect) why Jessica doesn't attend these things.

Why was that?

[quote]Considering people looked much older back then, The Dowager could have been 65-70 in 1912

Actually The Dowager was 50, they just used the same casting director as "Grease".

In Season 4, Episode 3, Anna calls Lord Gillingham’s Valet, Mr. Gillingham. He replies, I wish you would call me Mr. Green since that’s my real name. Anna replies, Mr. Carson wouldn’t like that, he prefers the old ways.

If so, than why isn’t Robert’s valet Mr. Bates called Mr. Grantham?

R252: They only followed that when visitors brought their servants with them. Rather than using the visiting servants' names it was easier to use their masters.

A dowager is a simply a widow with a title. Does not mean ancient.

R253 thanks.

[quote]r245 They need to get some pugs at Downton—Pug Lover

This whole looming MESS would be soooo improved if they just got pugs to play the visiting royals...

r250

Likely due to embarassment. Her phone was hacked and pictures/video of her having sex leaked.

I like R231 scenario better.

r256, that's better than the trailer we saw!

Thomas should’ve had a sad and traumatic end by prosecution or suicide. It would’ve been more realistic in the early 20th Century.

r260, it's not true that all (or even most) gays went to jail or committed suicide back then

Yes, R242, if you read authors from the Downton period there are often scandals whereby some young girl from a prominent aristocratic family causes a sensation by running off with a handsome footman or chauffeur. One of my favourite Somerset Maugham stories, The Human Element, concerns the headstrong and beautiful Lady Betty who settles down far from home on the island of Rhodes with a man who was once her father's footman and is now her driver, odd-job man and live-in lover.

R228 I was also hoping for her return in the movie. Seems like a big mistake to not use her to drive the narrative. She always seemed like she had many skeletons in her closet and lots of story potential waiting to be explored. Maybe they were content just to let us think that while Siobhan Finneran stood around doing virtually nothing because she was given nothing to do.

The actress who plays Cora gave an interview that I watched yesterday and she states that the film does leave things open for future sequels. Hopefully if this one does well enough, they might do one more and bring Finneran back and let the whole truth of what she did to Lady Cora come out.

I'm still confused about the burn victim guy who claimed to be the long-lost relative back in season 2 I think it was. The one Edith believed in. Was he just pretending?

r263

Yes he was pretending. He worked with the real Patrick Crawley and got enough anecdotes and basic info about the family from Patrick over the years to give him a foundation to try and pull it off. That along with the disfiguring burns he figured he had a shot at pulling it off.

I wished Bates really did kill his ex wife and Green and turned out to be a Jekyll & Hyde.

That whole storyline with the burned guy was bizarre. He didn’t even sound English.

The movie has already been made 18 years ago. It's called Gosford Park. Jeez can this thing be put to bed now? It was a terrible series and Julian Fellowes is a hack.

Gosford Park was directed by Robert Altman--just a wee bit more talented than Julian Fellowes (to say the least). It was a terrific movie, way better than even Season One of Downtown. If you haven't seen Gosford, do yourself a favor.

Gosford Park was written by . . . Julian Fellowes.

[quote] That whole storyline with the burned guy was bizarre. He didn’t even sound English.

He was supposed to have lived part of his life in Canada & picked up the Canadian accent. That was his story, anyway.

The first two seasons of Downton Abbey were very good. Then it started to suck.

Lady Mary's face is about to explode after she hears the news about Agatha Christie's disappearance on December 3, 1926.

Don't know if it's been mentioned, but Lindbergh crossed the Atlantic in the summer of 1927. That was a big deal. I learned that from Bill Bryson's book, One Summer, America, 1927. That was a fun read by the way.

Downton Abbey Returns - a special on PBS this Sunday, June 2nd.

Host Jim Carter celebrates "Downton Abbey" with a sneak peek of the movie, interviews with the cast and creators, and never-before-seen video clips.

^^^^9:00 p.m. in my area.

MARY!!!

Will Aaron Schock be watching?

New posters!

Rob James-Collier (Thomas) had a small part in a recent episode of "Death in Paradise."

Everybody looks Photoshopped to the gills in R278's poster. I'm disappointed that this Noah's Ark (everybody coupled-up) theme from the finale has continued on to the movie. Allen Leech looks good. Not sure if they Photoshopped any girth from him. AL is so handsome. Some men can carry extra weight and still look good. AL just looks pudgy when he gains a bit a weight.

r280 Allen Leech looks like the most 'shopped of them all! He looks like a video game character.

Thanks r278, love the photos.

So Mrs. Hughes-Carson's hair got darker with age rather than lighter, interesting concept.

Not sure I love Lady Mary's bangs ("fringe" in England?).

When will the local bobby be round to arrest baby Bates in keeping with family tradition.

I'm still surprised Rob James Collier hasn't had a bigger career post Downton.

There'll be a plot about Bates being falsely accused of kidnapping the Lindbergh baby

Two months from today, September 20th, the movie premieres here in the U.S. Can't wait!

My expectations for the plot line itself are low but I'm still just so excited to see them all and the clothes and to get caught up on their lives.

I hope the Abbey is haunted this time.

Shirley said "The pictures came off the wall". It could be like Scooby-Doo.

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Mary's geek husband. What's his name again?

Thomas is going to hook up with another footman.

The guy who plays Mary’s husband, Henry played Princess Margaret’s bi sexual husband on The Crown. He has a tasty looking ass.

There's something oddly asexual about him.

The trailer shows a kiss between the two men....

R16 Fuck this. Another society house for Clooney and his stick-insect/skeleton hybrid wife to visit and play to the manor born.

Haven't we come a long way George?

I loved the movie. Much better than the last few seasons. I have to admit to a MARY! moment when Branson was waltzing with Lucy outside. Absolutely sumptuous.

Who does Thomas fuck?

Whom

It doesn't show their intimate moments, but he has a connection with one of the royal entourage

Except a lovely "til next time" kiss, and some heartfelt dialogue, which I guess does count as intimate

Is Thomas’s guy hot?