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What if Elizabeth Taylor had been cast as Scarlett O'hara in GWTW?

Ok, I know she would have been too young, but what if she and Vivien Leigh had been born around the same time? If this were the case, I think Taylor would have eclipsed Leigh's career. That or her mere existense would have driven Leigh mad.

Do you think GWTW would have become the iconic film it is today had that role gone to Liz? I kind of think she could have pulled it off effortlessly.

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by Anonymousreply 38February 16, 2019 1:06 AM

Watch Elizabeth Taylor in Raintree County, she wasn't horrible but she was no where as resplendent as Vivian Leigh in GWTW.

by Anonymousreply 1January 1, 2019 1:09 AM

She was seven at the time.

by Anonymousreply 2January 1, 2019 1:11 AM

Exactly, R1.

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by Anonymousreply 3January 1, 2019 1:16 AM

R2, read my post.

by Anonymousreply 4January 1, 2019 1:16 AM

What if I had been Scarlett, and an secret hermaphrodite with a 10 cock, and a Vanderbilt heir, and a polymath, and I had become a huge star in Hollywood, then been injured working in the Resistance during WWII, but became Givenchy's muse, and a baseball coach, and married a famous black star of the Chitlin' circuit. What then, OP?

by Anonymousreply 5January 1, 2019 1:25 AM

Taylor wasn’t half he actress that Vivian Leigh was. If they’d been competing at the same time, Taylor wouldn’t have gotten any of the roles that Leigh played.

by Anonymousreply 6January 1, 2019 1:34 AM

Shelley Winters stated in her memoir that she really had the acting bug and as only a teenager she went to an audition to try out for the role of Scarlett O'Hara. She was wearing a makeshift, awful Southern costume and was talking in an even worse Southern accent. She said that the secretary ushered her into the audition room with the men right away, probably to give them their laugh for the day. She did her bit for them as Scarlett and needless to say they were not impressed. However the director George Cukor took her aside, was very kind to her and told her that while she was not ready for acting yet, to keep on trying and she just might make it in the business - and the rest is history.

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by Anonymousreply 7January 1, 2019 1:45 AM

Elizabeth Taylor was a lousy actress. She wasn't even good in Who's Afraid of V. Wolf, the one role that she got some critical acclaim for. Vivien Leigh was a very good actress and at the time was even more beautiful than Liz IMO. Too bad VL was crazy and aged so fast.

by Anonymousreply 8January 1, 2019 2:01 AM

R8, put the crack pipe down. Leigh could never hold a candle to Taylor's rare beauty.

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by Anonymousreply 9January 1, 2019 2:13 AM

Liz was great as Helena Cassadine

by Anonymousreply 10January 1, 2019 2:55 AM

That shrill, shrieky voice of hers would've caused the audience to yell at the screen, "Forget Atlanta, burn that bitch!"

by Anonymousreply 11January 1, 2019 3:03 AM

R11 Imagine that voice and Butterfly McQueen's in the same film.

by Anonymousreply 12January 1, 2019 3:05 AM
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by Anonymousreply 13January 1, 2019 3:09 AM

Who’s Afraid of Scarlett O’Hara?

by Anonymousreply 14January 1, 2019 3:12 AM

I believe this is known as "Idle Speculation." Is this all you have to do on New Year's Eve, OP? Can't you take a pill? Make some Ovaltine? Beat off?

by Anonymousreply 15January 1, 2019 3:16 AM

Idle speculation is a good excuse to talk about figures from a bygone era. What if Vivien Leigh had been cast as Cathy Holly in Suddenly Last Summer, which came out in 1939 instead of 1959?

by Anonymousreply 16February 8, 2019 7:16 PM

One only has to witness Miss Taylor's performance in "The Mirror Crack'd" to bear witness to the true lack of talent she had. She was one of those actors who could only put in a good performance if she had a great director who would coach her every step of the way, and do retake after retake until she got it right.

by Anonymousreply 17February 8, 2019 7:22 PM

Forgot the link.

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by Anonymousreply 18February 8, 2019 7:23 PM

One of the most boneheaded threads in a long time.

by Anonymousreply 19February 8, 2019 7:27 PM

You guys just made me picture Vivian Leigh in Virginia Woolf. She would have been great. Although, the Burton/Taylor backstory really added to the film.

by Anonymousreply 20February 8, 2019 7:28 PM

Okay, say Liz Taylor was the same age as Vivien Leigh, and not a generation younger.

Vivien Leigh STILL would have beat her for the part, if the filmmakers had any sense! Because Vivien brought a liveliness and cleverness to the role that Liz never displayed in her life, Liz could occasionally be good as a vulgar bitch but not as a clever bitch. It's that intelligence, the sense of cleverness and manipulation that the role of Scarlett required, and Leigh had that and Taylor did not.

by Anonymousreply 21February 8, 2019 7:28 PM

The catfight with Kim was fun and effective though. Besides not even Vivien can rise completely above the material, which explained why the deep blue sea flopped at the box office.

by Anonymousreply 22February 8, 2019 7:28 PM

r21 Taylor had been able to exude a clever manipulative vibe since A Date with Judy. Later films like Place In the Sun Girl Who had Everything just reinforced that fact.

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by Anonymousreply 23February 8, 2019 7:34 PM

She was the right age for Bonnie, not Scarlett.

by Anonymousreply 24February 8, 2019 7:34 PM

Vivien Leigh was perfection at Scarlett. Taylor would have ruined the movie.

by Anonymousreply 25February 8, 2019 7:35 PM

Tallulah Banghead had the right accent (she was from Alabama, Leigh was English), attractive enough perhaps, a quick learner of lines, and her sassiness was natural. Whether all that would satisfy what the casting crew were seeking, is another matter.

by Anonymousreply 26February 8, 2019 7:38 PM

Scarlett has to age from a teenager to a mature woman through the course of the story— I can’t see Tallulah pulling off the first part at all.

by Anonymousreply 27February 8, 2019 7:41 PM

Tallulah auditioned. So did Lana Turner that had some later extraordinary roles in film.

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by Anonymousreply 28February 8, 2019 7:45 PM

Paulette Goddard was a front-runner, but availability and contractual issues were a problem. She was working with Chaplin at the time.

by Anonymousreply 29February 8, 2019 7:53 PM

So, the great Made For TV movie "The Scarlett O'Hara Wars" from 1980 is finally up on Youtube.

Great fun.

Previously only bits and pieces were availab.e

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by Anonymousreply 30February 8, 2019 7:53 PM

Talent aside, Taylor would have eclipsed Leigh, by virtue of her unparalleled beauty.

According to her biographer, the unstable Leigh was a homewrecker who liked to intimidate other women with her attractiveness. Had she had to compete against Taylor, it may very well have driven her over the brink.

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by Anonymousreply 31February 15, 2019 12:30 AM

wow

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by Anonymousreply 32February 15, 2019 12:44 AM

astonishing beauty

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by Anonymousreply 33February 15, 2019 12:45 AM

Elizabeth was the curvier, higher color contrast model. They even shared the same impossibly small waist.

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by Anonymousreply 34February 15, 2019 9:43 PM

The epitome of 50s glamour, Elizabeth was.

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by Anonymousreply 35February 15, 2019 9:46 PM

Imagine Taylor & Leigh pulling each other's hair over Richard Burton.

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by Anonymousreply 36February 15, 2019 11:54 PM

Or over Sir Olivier

by Anonymousreply 37February 16, 2019 12:58 AM

Like Viv, ET stuns in period wardrobe.

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by Anonymousreply 38February 16, 2019 1:06 AM
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