When did this place become my great granmother’s DL?

It's gay history week on the DL so fuck off junior --

OP is lost. The most common age for a DLer is in their 50s, and topics about pop culture from past eras has always been a calling card of this board.

You must think you are on reddit.

We also talk about supertwink Joel and Mitzi.

[quote]my great granmother's

Oh, dear.

You on the rag OP?

R3 Joel and Mitzi are truly timeless.

How do you fix it? Talk more about born stars?

Do you have to pay Reddit?

i'd rather read about Mitzi and other dead showgirls than endure another thread about some instagram whore!

You should see the good side of things. You will be more cultivated here than on some websites.

" I eat old peoples excrement! "

There is lots of variety on here OP something for everyone. There are also plenty of younger people interested in film stars from the golden era of Hollywood ,it is not a preserve of older people.

I’m not one of them, r12.

Then shoo! shoo!, R13.

I'm starting a thread on dead Playboy Playmate Dorothy Stratten. That will bring us up to date.

This place is heavily censored now and is fucking boring. I am pretty much done with it.

There are 19 threads on Shawn Mendes.

Yes! This is the website where Judy Garland is vocally superior to Adele and Beyonce because of that insipid pedo-calling card of a rainbow song.

OP, quick what’s your address I need to get you a box of tampons, STAT.

Yeah, OP, and we're all so old, everybody here has HAD your great-grandmother, too.

Connie Francis is retro-hip, OP.

Alexa is recording everything I say!

Honey, many of us here have had your grandmother and grandfather. And a couple of other closeted male relatives.

R23 truth

OP It's your great-grandmother here: don't rain on our parade, you little pisher, and, anyways, it's past your bedtime,

R25 OP, this is your great-grandmother’s GIRLFRIEND here and we were original DL members. Your whole family is old and gay.

r9, Mitzi Gaynor ain't dead.

DL's always been like this.

[quote]i'd rather read about Mitzi and other dead showgirls

I beg your pardon?

Let's start a thread on that exciting new Ziegfeld star, Marilyn Miller.

[quote] I beg your pardon?

I never promised you a rose garden

R30 yes

Hissssss *cough*cough*ssssssssssss

(Grand pause)

*cough*cough*hiiiiiiisssssddssssssssssss

[quote]Hissssss *cough*cough*ssssssssssss

Marilyn? Is that you?

Long may Mitzi reign r27 !! I hope she lives as long as Zsa Zsa and slowly becomes a DL favourite over time!

Oh! I thought we were talking about Mitzi, the Lhasa Apso

There is only one Mitzi, you cunt.

OP types old.

OP is an idiot. As everyone else has said, it's always been like this. I found DL about 15 years ago because of a Myoshi Umeki thread.

I'm an eldergay who enjoys hearing about the stars who lived long before my birth.

I like to think I can discriminate the genuinely-talented ones from those who relied on PR and the Casting Couch.

I agree O.P. Just post something derogatory about Judy Garland, it sends the old queens into a tizz! Judy was a talentless, alcoholic, manic-depressive, neglectful, neurotic, abusive wretch. They'll be clutching at their pearls and will need a valium and a lie down.

Arianna Grande and Lana Del Rey are talentless, alcoholic, manic-depressive, neglectful, neurotic, abusive wretches.

OP, what type of threads would you like to see?

[quote]Alexa is recording everything I say!

You posted over 25 times in the recent Alexa thread, sounding like a shill. But yeah, it's the Mitzi Gaynor threads that are the problem.

Reminds me of the anti-trans spammer who I saw yesterday complaining about Golden Girls threads. They're so clueless they don't notice their own obsessions, and are so self-absorbed they don't even get what DL is about.

I can't believe it's been almost 20 years since Dorothy Stratten died.

The Connie Francis thread gave me pause too, OP. Exactly how clapped out in Bumfuckleville, and how low brow does one have to be, to start caring about a C grade elephant thighed starlette?

I've found that most people who go on about "eldergays" and "old queens" are dinosaurs themselves. Usually physically old, but in all cases they're ancient in mentality too.

Brace yourself, OP. I understand a Laura La Plante appreciation thread is coming.

Do other members here think the horseless carriage will really take off?

They're just so LOUD. Make me nervous.

There may come a day when DL is devoid of obscure cultural ephemera, but I hope I'm in the cold, cold ground when that happens..

This instructional film starred OP.

Threads like this are by the same people who post youtube comments on old music that go "I'm 14 and I love this!"

Start a thread that interests you, OP. Nobody wants to read everything on DL, but everyone wants to read some things.

Connie Francis was one of the most beautiful, talented and best-selling recording artists of the 20th century. It's only normal she's still being widely discussed, OP!

I know, OP. I just ignore all those granny threads.

“There are also plenty of younger people interested in film stars from the golden era of Hollywood ,it is not a preserve of older people.”

Uh, not really dude.

Get off my lawn!

Not "Get off my lawn," R57. We seniors say "Get off of my cloud." We know where that comes from.

I thought Mitzi Gaynor was the one who sang "I Will Survive." Oops, for shame.

I have no idea who most of the people are that seem to be referenced all the time. It's an education

R59 You idiot! That was her sister Gloria.

[quote]It's an education

Why would I want to learn about stuff I don't already know!?

[quote]Judy was a talentless, alcoholic, manic-depressive, neglectful, neurotic, abusive wretch. They'll be clutching at their pearls and will need a valium and a lie down.

Judy WAS a alcoholic, manic-depressive, neglectful, neurotic, abusive wretch. But she was not talentless.

FF’d.

R59, No, silly. Mitzi won the first ever Best Actress Oscar.

Yes The Mitzi's are so new school. Lets look back to the classic artists of our youth. I present Loie Fuller, the penultimate artist of the 20th century

R66 That’s truly ICONIC!

[quote]the penultimate artist of the 20th century

And who is the ultimate?

Is now a good time to bring up Tallulah?

Who’s Mitzi?

Please post here in advance of your starting a thread OP. This way I will be alerted to your witty / relevant / on trend / hot topic contribution.

Since you asked for the ultimate: May I present TOPO GIGO! A perfect combination of bathos and pathos

^ I love you Eddie.

[quote]OP is an idiot. As everyone else has said, it's always been like this. I found DL about 15 years ago because of a Myoshi Umeki thread.

Surely you meant to say, "the delicate, some say flower-like Miyoshi Umeki."

Only one current thread on Gap In-Store Playlists from 1992 to 2006!

DL, Truman or Dewey?

Discuss.

The old racist queens just want obsess about the white women they'd wished they were. They are getting louder than they used to be, raging against the dying of the light.

Based on the DL criteria of hotness: Dewey but again, a close call.

[quote]R58 Not "Get off my lawn," [R57]. We seniors say "Get off of my cloud." We know where that comes from.

It's really "GET OFF MY SNOOD!"

The Queen of Vaudeville weighs in with her response to OP.

We all know it's Valerie Cherish who introduced [italic]I Will Survive![/italic]

Has anyone ever met someone named Mitzi?

Mitzis are as rare as Trixies.

R82, Yes. And she's under 60.

OT:

I just googled TRIXIE (misspelled) and got this:

[quote]Tricksie - First Name Meaning - What does Tricksie mean?

[quote]Is the name of Tricksie helping or hurting you? Discover your core purpose and make it a reality through a Balanced Name - ancient ...

[quote] I like to think I can discriminate the genuinely-talented ones from those who relied on PR and the Casting Couch.

So does every other person on the internet.

Mitzi's whipping up a glorious snack for you ungrateful fuckers.

You rang?

Who’s on Merv tonight?

r89 Some young rent boy, like always.

I'm OP's great grandmother and saw Follies on my honeymoon in '71 in NY and HATED it! What a pretentious pos. Now Beautiful that's what I call a great musical!

I genuinely love the guy who shows up semi randomly and posts nothing but "FOLLIES!"

It's the Maiden Aunt Brigade OP

There are a sizable number of DLers who come here to pretend that the last 30 years never happened. If it makes them happy, why sweat it. Plenty of other threads to participate in.

I wasn't alive 30 years ago and I only come to the DL for old Hollywood threads. Modern culture is shit on a stick.

[quote]There are also plenty of younger people interested in film stars from the golden era of Hollywood ,it is not a preserve of older people.

And comma splicers galore, we love them anyway.

New Year’s Eve doesn’t mean a thing if we don’t have Guy Lombardo and His Royal Canadians to look forward to.

I just love putting on my hat and gloves and going to the picture show. Then we will go to the soda fountain and will enjoy an egg cream. It's really the bee's knees. Then I will give a penny to the pickaninny dancing on the street in a top hat.

[quote]The old racist queens just want obsess about the white women they'd wished they were.

And the "RACIST!" shriekers just want (sic) obsess about the old racist queens they wish they were. They are boring, and have the opposite effect they wish they had on other, non-racist queens. I am more tired of them than either of us is of the racists.

Once more in English, R98?

r98 Yes! We really want to be like you. The same guys flooding the "How many of you a content with being alone?" and "When you die, how long will it take for people to discover your body?" threads.

Oh to be a beautiful white woman from Darien in 1948 and go down south and be ravished by some hot black stud! Then come back north and put on my pearls, white gloves and apron and send the children off to school.

I'm surprised that millennials in these types of threads tend to brag about their age, given how, well... old they are. Culture is driven by people in their teens and early 20s. Millennials be ancient. :(

r97 is a racist.

Shun him GALS!!!!

Grandma just loved Kate Smith.

OP - I agree it’s you. Connie who?

And here's Judy's response to R41.

Thank you for standing up for mama R106

Oh let’s not fight. Let’s be slightly nostalgic Andy rewind back to the 90s:

^ * AND

Back to Mitzi!

Good lord, Marilyn is a complete energy suck in that, and it may be the most boring song I've ever heard. MM gives Lizha a run for her money on thozhe esses: "the shky, stretching out yawning."

Mama, my mama? Thanksch boysch, and Happy New Yearsch!

"Broadway's exciting Mitzi Gaynor"

[quote]When did this place become my great granmother’s DL?

It's not your father's Oldsmobile, though.

I'm waiting for the 'Wide-Face Troll' thread.

And the Martita Hunt Appreciation Thread.

Back from dinner after enjoying the early bird special.

What did I miss?

What did you miss? Just the most exciting gossip about that thrilling new talent, Blanche Sweet! Remember her name! You'll be seeing a lot of it!

Thanks R117. Looking forward to the dish on Blanche and her ex, Mickey Neilan.

My New Year's Resolution is accepting that no matter what I do, I'll never come to look like Helen Twelvetrees.

How did you all get over it?

Anita Page stole Our Dancing Daughters from Joan. Or was it Our Modern Maidens or Our Blushing Brides?

Anita Page is a big whore, throwing her bazooms around in [italic]A Kiss for Cinderella.[/italic]

I demanded my money back at the box office. Never been so embarrased in all my life!

Yes, that's why Jesus invented the brassiere

I have sufficient.

I mean, we all know the Jazz Babies and Hoochie Dancers are taking over this industry, but we don't have to put it UP ON THE SCREEN, for ALL TO SEE.

Yeah, R103, but ya gotta admit - still pretty funny.

Happy New Year fellas!

Can we please go back to discussing more important subjects, like why Anna Sten's career in the US failed to take off. Was it because of her thick accent?

What's a "granmother"?

r127 She was pretty and actually talented. But for whatever reason, audiences just didn't take to her. After 3 bombs, Goldwyn gave up.

Behind her back, she was called Anna Stench.

It must be said, Anna Sten was no Gwili Andre.

But then again, who is R130?

Gwili did not deserve such a tragic ending.

Anna Sten was a Marlene Dietrich wanna-be, without the charm or talent.

But she probably should have her own thread.

Is talking about Lens Dunham contemporary?

1995

The Connie Francis thread gave me pause too, OP. Exactly how clapped out in Bumfuckleville, and how low brow does one have to be, to start caring about a C grade elephant thighed starlette? -R46

Can't bring self to open a CF thread Is she Italian, you're saying? The thighs?

“Lens is timeless”, R133.

Said no one. Ever.

Did Captain Kangaroo and Mr. Green Jeans ever vo-de-oh-do?

Bumfuckleville!😅 just looked up Connie. Tough bird. Survivor. I'll read the thread saga when it comes up again. Even Howard Johnson's is in there. That HoJos went to the dogs. Most rooms had jacuzzi and cathedral ceilings. Roach ridden now.

R51 and the gang, let's riff it!

"I've been up all night *jerking off into and dirty tube sock*

The griping is a ripen' R51. Molested by own consciousness while sleeping!😂

R66 that was quite wonderful, thank you

At R51, we never get to see George resolve his problem. Is there a part deux?

R77, now that IS true. They're always here but their peak times are when the rest of the world is working, playing and taking care of business. Weekends are a no go zone here now.

R111, According to Mitzi Gaynor, she and Donald O'Connor were working up a sweat singing and jumping around Marilyn in that number, but Marilyn kept fumbling the lyrics and missing her cues. O'Connor had had enough and exclaimed, "Until the lady knows what she's doing, I'll be in my dressing room!" and walked off the set.

R106, that was magical☄

[quote]Can we please go back to discussing more important subjects, like why Anna Sten's career in the US failed to take off. Was it because of her thick accent?

No--it was because of her thick dick.

That'it R110. I'm bringing back the sash! Drawing up plans in my spring line. TY.

I feel censored a lot. It doesn't seem fair.

My DL must display differently from others? Mine shows a heading with just one post so I can read the threads I am interested in and skip the rest?

Variety is the spice of life OP. Try adding some of your own spice on here by starting some threads about stuff you find interesting.

R132, gorgeous. Bet Madonna wishes to have that face. Better than Dietrich or garbo. Her nose could have used a slight tip tweaking a la Zsa Zsa

Anna Sten is a dead ringer for my great aunt Tante Rose here.

Anna Sten and Gwili Andre couldn't hold a candle to Tala Birell.

R45 Dorothy Stratten left us in August 1980, that is more than 38 years ago, Sleeping Beauty!!

ALERT! DL ALERT ALERT!

OMG! Found Bonnie Franklin for CRISCO. Lightheaded DLer here.

[quote] The Connie Francis thread gave me pause too, OP. Exactly how clapped out in Bumfuckleville, and how low brow does one have to be, to start caring about a C grade elephant thighed starlette

R135, she was one of the most successful female artists of the 1960's, hardly a "starlette".

As far as "thick thighed", that's a matter of opinion.

Drunk

[quote]OMG! Found Bonnie Franklin for CRISCO.

Bitch.

What is this Crisco you babble on about?

R159 thank you! R158 thank you.

Let's be frank, Anna Sten's career failed to take off because she had a wide face!

R161 isn't a wide face a good thing? ask Madonna and SJP

[quote]r161 Let's be frank, Anna Sten's career failed to take off because she had a wide face!

Your ASS has a wide face!

Uh, oh. OP got the DL elders agitated and defensive. Hissssssssss...!

Why would Anna Sten's wide face be a problem? Just look at Cameron Diaz - with a face and mouth like hers you could eat bananas sideways and her films still managed to gross over $7 billion worldwide.

There are pictures of Anna Sten where she looks too much like Marlene Dietrich. That could've been the problem. In order to be memorable, you have to stand out and create your own persona. Otherwise you are just an imitator. Why hire the Marlene Dietrich lookalike when you can hire Marlene Dietrich?

Were there Sten stans?

Well, here's a Mitzi stan.

None bigger than Sam Goldwyn R168

If Sam Goldwyn can with great conviction

Instruct Ann Stein in diction

Then Anna shows

Anything goes

And thus far, not a word about Ethel Shutta.

Not then

and not later...

Anna Sten IS "The Girl with a Hatbox". This is one of her most enjoyable movies- it's short and cute, just the way I like my films.

Ethel shutta quit while she was ahead R173.

R132 You obviously haven't heard the anecdote about Louis B Mayer shouting at his assistant to go out and purchase three Ingrid Bergmans, two Lana Turners and one Marlene Dietrich.

R139 here's another

How much longer for this plague of ghetto cretins to be inflicting themselves on the DL? Someone go post something controversial at lipstick alley because they are a pestilence freely inserting themselves on their "betters".

Look, nobody is interested in poor black women. No one. Least desired demographic to walk this earth. So sure this reality is painful and rage inducing but it is not our legacy. We have our own stories. We're not your therapists being paid to work out your racial preoccupations. If HW, SJW and PC crowd are willing to coddle your obsessions and anger they can knock themselves out. We do not care. We're aware of the pain resulting in anger but we can't help you. Take responsibility and help yourself.

Thank you for reading

Again, awfully quiet in here 💄

WTF is the shitstain Stormfrunter (sic) at R178 going on about?

OP isn't gay, he's simply homosexual. Gay men know that one of our greatest gifts to the world is not only creating art and culture, it's preserving and adapting art and culture. Remove the gay men from art schools, ballet, theatre, film, museums, archives, academia and architecture, as AIDS valiantly tried to do, and you're left with shit We remind straight people what beautiful things have been made in the world, and we have the grace and foresight to keep them alive.

OP, aren't there enough porn threads here for you to play in?

Settle down, Little Jimmy. We’ll let you play some of you rock ‘n’ roll records when the adults are done talking.

When you think of it OP, there's nothing more great grandmotherly than an unsolicited hall monitor!

I missed the Maxwell House Coffee Time radio program again!

We just love that Baby Snooks in our house!

I haven't been able to get my favorite Elizabeth Arden [italic]maquillage [/italic] for ages now [bold]: ([/bold]

What do the rest of you use for knee rouge?

The answer is simple: GOOD HOSIERY.

How would Bart Sher know which musical to direct for one of his tired revivals if he didn't come to DL.

I'm looking forward to his upcoming tired revival of Very Warm for May.

F&F R188. How dare you speak ill of Bart Sher! His revivals are genius and classy. Usually one of the highlights of the season. You clearly have no taste nor care about the future of musical theater.

It's certainly heartening to know the future of the musical theater is in the hands of Bart Sher. I assume Camelot is somewhere on his schedule.

I just LOVED to listen to the Cinnamon Bear at Christmastime.

And those Andrews sisters, we used to sing along with them on the radio.

And then we would sing their songs while roller skating on the street.

Get with it grandpa. The Andrews Sisters can’t hold a candle to the swinging Lennon Sisters.

I don't know what the hell is wrong with R191 and R192, but the only sister act worth discussing is OF COURSE, The Gumm Sisters. That smooth as silk tone quality; those nuanced dynamics; those dance moves that appear lighter than air - how did the other two not become breakout stars like little Frances?!?

Oh no you didn’t! R193.

Pia Zadora and Charo married rich old men.

Discuss

I may be going out on a limb here by using a moving image, but here's a swell tribute to Edward Everett Horton.

He’s the bee’s knees R196