Sixteen Candles - watching it for the first time

And Carole Cooke as the cigarette smoking grandma.

It's a fun movie and Jake is hot.

It makes me a bit sad that it's been labeled "problematic" for things that were funny at the time.

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I still can't believe John Hughes was rethuglican - this is the funniest of his films - cable is now overplaying "Breakfast Club" which has aged well. all of the actors are very good in their roles.

Jake was perfect.

Glad you caught up with 1985 there, OP.

Thanks, r6! I was 12 in ‘85!

What problematic besides the donger?

[quote] What problematic besides the donger?

Um, Jake passing his girlfriend off to the nerd, who fucks her without consent.

Having just watched, the nerd was drunk too and remembered nothing. But she was 18, and did remember. So statutory rape by her, I guess.

Problematic: "Shit, I've got Caroline in the bedroom right now, passed out cold. I could violate her ten different ways if I wanted to."

The Donger stuff, I can understand to a degree.

But even then, the stuff with her squicked me out.

You make someone a bridesmaid, and they shit on you.

Folks determined to find problems point to:

- numerous discussions between Jake and his friends that are a bit "boys will be boys" rapey

- Numerous discussion by teen boys AND Sam herself that objectify people.

- mockery of the disabled (Joan Cusak)

- Sam's drug addled sister gets married

- gay slurs are tossed like salad at a bath house

Michael was hot AF in Mermaids too. It's a shame he left the business.

[quote]It's a shame he left the business.

While there's one picture floating around that is supposedly him, I'm sort of glad that he's frozen in my mind looking as he did in Sixteen Candles.

Can you imagine if he Depardieued it?

If it’s the LinkedIn pic it’s not him

Yes, you are a total fag.

R15 I was going to say the same thing.

[quote]tossed like salad at a bath house

brava, r14!

I much prefer the guy on Pretty in Pink despite that weak chin. Jake is a bit boring for me.

The movie is very good but it's now joined the MeToo blacklist much in the same way my favorite film, Last Tango in Paris, did a few years ago. I thought that Molly's think piece regarding this movie was a fair point but people would do good to understand context above all.

^Ugh, no way is Andrew McCarthy better looking than Mr. Schoeffling. But, it is wild that you mentioned him. He seemed to get all the girls in his movies (Molly Ringwald, Jacqueline Bissett, Jami Gertz, Ally Sheedy, Kelly Preston, Helen Hunt, Kim Cattrall...).

Carol Cook blowing cigarette smoke onto the donuts followed by her line: “Voila! Breakfast is served.”

Gedde Watanabe had some classic lines in this.

“THE DONGA NEED FOOD!”

(After his hulking girlfriend mentions that she’s never dated a boy before, his response...) “Me neither.”

“You beat up my face!”

“Married! Jeez.”

“Now I have a place to put my hand!”

“Hahahahaha! B-woosh!! Lake! Big lake!”

“What’s happening hot stuff?”

“...so his hyena (for “hernia”) don’t get disturbed.”

(Girl asks him what his name is...) “Dong. Long. Duk.”

I would have paid to see the massive Tony Longo defile Michael Schoeffling.

I agree that this is Hughes’s funniest flick. It was the little things that made it hilarious, like the way the Geek sniffs the area above the seat during the bus scene near the beginning after Sam gets up, or the nuances in Blanche Baker’s subtly uproarious performance, or the way there’s the swishing noise of ice in a glass when Zelda Rubenstein walks down the isle near the end.

Take your context and shove it up your ass.

For years my friend Dennis and I would randomly throw quotes from this movie at each other. Our favorite was always “I loathe the bus.” Runner-up was “She marry oily bohunk.”

My favorite moment is when the mother of the bride realizes just how fucked up her daughter is, the daughter then stumbles pathetically through the aisle.

It's my favorite 80's movie, period. I've seen it more times than I could count. I love the sound effects and of course Jake Ryan.

Loved the teapot.

NO, JAKE! NOT LIKE THIS!!!!!!!!!!

[bold]Mike Baker:[/bold] [about Ginny] Dad, she's got her period. Should make for an interesting honeymoon, huh?

[bold]Jim Baker:[/bold] Where are you learning that stuff?

[bold]Mike Baker:[/bold] School.

[bold]Jim Baker:[/bold] Good. I get my money's worth.

Here's an actual recent photo of the elusive Michael Schoeffling, aka Jake Ryan. We've tried to find recent pics of him many times here on DL, and this just popped up in a search!

The rapey stuff was always creepy. That said, I've always loved it regardless. I'm glad we've advanced as a culture to recognizing that things like "giving" your passed-out girlfriend to a random dude are not okay. But I'm also not going to stop watching iandenjoying this movie for what it is.

Clean, close shave . . .

[quote]Here's an actual recent photo of the elusive Michael Schoeffling, aka Jake Ryan. We've tried to find recent pics of him many times here on DL, and this just popped up in a search!

Wow, I wish I hadn't looked at that. Why on earth does he have such bad hair and 1970s classes.

I had hoped that he had aged similarly to Matt Dillon. Unrealistic - sure, since he's not in show business anymore.

r34 for the win. That's Mike. Still recognizable but the hot is gone. I think he's relieved.

He lives a very quiet life in Bucks County doing custom carpentry. He wants nothing to do with his past modeling or acting life.

Fun facts: Mike was in the first editorial spread for Calvin Klein underwear (GQ I think) He worked for Zoli at the time.

Also, his daughter is currently chasing a modeling career of her own. Nice girl, but just no.

Great find R34!

You don’t want everyone to know that she’s had her period!

The scene where Elaine Wilkes and Jami Gertz are shitfaced and Elaine cuts Haviland Morris’s hair is hysterical.

Absolutely the best 1980s teen comedy ever made!

My friends and I still recite lines from it.

"Well, if it isn't Sammy Baker Davis Junior!"

"Thanks for getting my panties back."

"Donger's here for five hours, and he's got somebody. I live here my whole life, and I'm like a disease."

R25 Poor Tony died of heart failure in his sleep 3 years ago. He was only 56 and had 3 kids.

It was for straights, and homophobic ones at that.

R35 He's aged and looks a little frail, but I can still recognize him. Hope he's okay.

“I can’t believe my grandmother actually felt me up.”

Look, Fred: there’s your Chinaman!

the new wave soundtrack is brilliant and most of the best songs weren't released on the cd

NONE of the songs were released on the cd because there isn't one.

I meant the LP- sorry

Having been a teenager at the time, I can confirm that life/society, in general, was much better than it is today. No, we didn't have gay rights yet, but gay people were happier back then than they are today. There was far less stress, competition and politics and to ruin everyone's lives. Being a teenager before the advent of social media was magical and carefree. Sixteen Candles portrays that era perfectly.

Enjoy!

Now you listen to me, Mister. God did not put me on this Earth to be awakened by filthy suggestions from a foul-mouthed hooligan like you. And as for our Granddaughter, I am sure she has more than enough sense to steer clear of the likes of you. Now good night and good bye!

The closing tune “If You Were Here” was The Thompson Twins’s finest moment.

R18 I know we’re supposed to frown upon that line now, but damn is it a great burn in context. I love how Ringwald delivers that line. Doesn’t the story go that she truly hated Anthony-Micheal to begin with and when they shot this scene, but grew to like him enough to date him by the end and on BREAKFAST CLUB?

Oddly enough I just got my Funko Pop Jake Ryan in the mail today. Think I'll go bang one out.

R55 I hardcore shipped Moll/AMH back then, I think I was the only one. I totally thought they’d go far together but they’d split and stopped speaking by like 1989 (that whole Wild Horses/school in Paris era took Molly in a different direction I guess).

Yes, Molly and Michael were dating by the time they filmed TBC. And the “total fag” line still cracks me up, as does everything else she says to him in that bus scene (“So I smell”; “Yes, three big ones and they lust wimp blood” when he asks her if she has a boyfriend; “Life is not whatnot and it’s none of your business”...).

Jake, I had this totally bizarre dream, and you were in me. I mean---it. In it. (Oh, crap.)

You don't spell it son, you eat it!

Ugh - Molly reminds me of every queen bee I wanted to just slap and tell to STFU.

I'm pretty sure I've seen this more times than any other movie. I actually went to see it for *my* 16th birthday. I just watched it this week. I often FF through a lot of the movie where it stops being about Samantha, and more about the Geek. I don't hate those parts or anything, they just aren't as fun to watch over and over, to me.

Anthony Michael Hall is so talented. He practically stole Vacation from Chevy Chase and Sixteen Candles, Breakfast Club, and Weird Science wouldn't have been half as interesting and entertaining if he wasn't in them. It's too bad that he hasn't had the high profile acting career that he deserves.

Any time I'm stuck behind a city bus in traffic, I say either silently to myself or out loud, "I looooooaaaaaattttttthhhhhhheeee the bus!" just like Sam did all those years ago. I CANNOT not think of that line.

The late great Zelda Rubenstein as the church organist was fab.

r65 I need a drink!

I drove by Molly's house from the movie in the suburbs of Chicago many years ago.

R67 the house Ringwald’s character Andie admires and extols to Ducky (I believe it was the lovely home of the parents of bullying preppy character Steff, played by James Spader) in PRETTY IN PINK was nicer.

In fact PIP was a better film overall; easier to watch, pacier, tonally sharper with more dynamic characters and a superior soundtrack & costuming. 16C seems a bit gunshy, tame and chintzy by comparison (though it’s all kitsch by now, isn’t it).

I can't believe my grandmother actually felt me up.

R69, see R46.

"I'm sorry, I don't do that."

"Yes you do"

"I know."

You can’t really compare 16 Candles and Pretty in Pink on a tonal level, as one is a slapstick comedy and the other a dramedy leaning more toward the dramatic side. People tend to compare PIP more to its gender flip, Hughes’s Some Kind of Wonderful, and many prefer the latter.

I still wonder what would happen if Sixteen Candles and The Breakfast Club switched tones. Like if Sixteen Candles was more of a drama (there are bits and pieces of it, like when Samantha is alone and crying in the high school hallway) and The Breakfast Club was more of the wacky comedy (again, bits and pieces, like with the stoned scene).

I saw molly ringwald on tv lately (or maybe a YouTube vid) and was shocked at how she looked. She wasn’t awful looking, she just didnt look like Molly Ringwald. Her face looks three times linger than she used to,

Grandpa: "Well, what did he want?"

Grandma: "SEX!"

I love the music in the movie. I have the soundtrack - I think it's on cassette somewhere in my house. But a lot of the movie music isn't on it. There a song that plays when Samantha bumps into Jake it the coat room after the dance. It took some googling around, but it's Ring Me Up by the DiVinyls... that one I'm often singing to myself.

It's on the extended soundtrack, R76.

"Dong, where is my automobile?"

"AUTOMOBIIIIIIILE!!!"

The mom in this, Carlin Glynn, is the mother of Mary Stuart Masterson. She won a Tony for playing Madame Mona in BEST LITTLE WHOREHOUSE IN TEXAS!

She's 78 now.

R56!

I was just going to post the action figures!

I mean, I knew guys like this

She was like 20 when she did this!

Men have loved me before, but never for 6 months on a row

And she just buried her husband two weeks ago, R79.

Okay, I might need to watch this again tomorrow. It really was great.

R72, Some Kind of Wonderful is my favorite Hughes flick. I was only 7ish when I saw it, but I loved it! I don't think I've actually ever watched Pretty in Pink in full.

For me it's:

1. Some Kind of Wonderful

2. Breakfast Club

3. Sixteen Candles

4. Planes, Trains, and Automobiles

I like SKOW too. That music that plays in the opening scene is awesome. Although I feel like Watts would have made Keith take those earrings back.

My favorite Hughes film and 80’s teen comedy. This scene however was always cringeworthy

^Lol, I know.

Sixteen Candles is like Airplane because there's a joke every two minutes.

R89 no shade but you have to finish PiP at some point before you finalise that otherwise-solid ranking. It is so quotable.

I’m like the “loathe the Bus” poster upthread, only with Steff McKee not Samantha Baker. The number of times in my life I’ve obnoxiously said “Nobody appreciates your sense of humor”, “got a problem, Friend?” and “I don’t need a lot of shit on this one, I really don’t” is probably obscene and may account for why people think I’m an asshole (which, yes I am, I just aim to be as stylish an asshole as Steff).

I loaaathe Some Kind of Wonderful, the final act couldn't be any dumber or more exhausting. The locations are dreadful and the characters are one dimensional and silly. The best part was the hot slacker that helps him out, the ugly as sin sister and the lesbian looking best friend.

Jake even dressed super cool with his rolled up jeans and combat boots.