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Penn Badgley agrees with Darren Criss that straight actors should stop playing gay roles

[quote]In a new interview with PinkNews, the 32-year-old actor/singer says, “If anybody exists at any kind of intersection of oppression beyond the box of white male, I’d say let’s make damn sure that they’re being represented by the people who have lived this experience [and] not have people who haven’t lived the experience portraying them.” The reason, Badgley says, is pretty simple. “Because then at the end of the day you’re getting a real portrayal.”

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by Anonymousreply 65December 30, 2018 5:39 AM

Mary!

by Anonymousreply 1December 21, 2018 9:19 PM

Penn Badgley is so hot!

by Anonymousreply 2December 21, 2018 9:22 PM

Who dat bro?

by Anonymousreply 3December 21, 2018 9:22 PM

I disagee. If gay actors can play straight characters, then straight actors can play gay characters. This isn’t blackface.

by Anonymousreply 4December 21, 2018 9:23 PM

EXACTLY

by Anonymousreply 5December 21, 2018 9:26 PM

R4 gay people have to live in a straight world and until they come out, act straight to avoid being outed.

Straight people don't exist in both worlds, so have no idea what it's like.

by Anonymousreply 6December 21, 2018 9:28 PM

Isn't this just going to decrease the amount of gay/trans content?

by Anonymousreply 7December 21, 2018 9:28 PM

A real portrayal? Its fucking called acting for a reason.

by Anonymousreply 8December 21, 2018 9:31 PM

OP, such a pathetic attempt at validating the foot-in-mouth Criss interview.

There are light years of difference. Badgley was talking about the "white male". Did he do that after making a career of playing non-white characters the way Criss has of being gay for pay? I don't think so.

by Anonymousreply 9December 21, 2018 9:34 PM

No, he directly says only queer people should play queer roles r9. Did you bother clicking the link before you posted that?

[quote]Asked whether only LGBTQ actors should be cast in LGBTQ roles, Badgley responds, “Yeah, I actually really like that idea, I do.”

by Anonymousreply 10December 21, 2018 9:36 PM

Dumb. It’s a fucking hard industry from the beginning no matter WHO you are. Gay straight white black etc. it’s probably the toughest profession to succeed in. And the whole point is ACTING. The best actors earn the right to play whatever fucking character they want. These pussies need to shut the fuck up and stop pandering for relevance. I want the most convincing person in a role period. I don’t give a fuck who they sleep with at night. Next.

by Anonymousreply 11December 21, 2018 9:39 PM

Acting isn’t rocket science for Gods sake. It’s called acting because you’re playing someone you’re not in life

by Anonymousreply 12December 21, 2018 9:40 PM

R10, he was talking about white men, and then was asked this as a sub-question.

[quote]“In reality, we have basically, like, privileged white people playing everybody, and so we need to stop that,” Badgley said “in theory” and in a “totally just society” any actor should be able to portray any character, but “that’s not the world we live in.” “We live in a world that does not recognize virtually anyone outside of the white male or the beautiful white woman who has to be an object of desire and affection,”

Unlike Criss, Badgley did not make a career of playing minorities before suddenly getting "woke" because of fear of typecasting.

by Anonymousreply 13December 21, 2018 9:43 PM

[quote]The best actors earn the right to play whatever fucking character they want.

And for some reason those actors always turn out to be straight.

by Anonymousreply 14December 21, 2018 9:43 PM

What are you even rambling about r13? I recognize he also talks about the race angle, but since this is a gay board, I am focusing on the gay angle.

by Anonymousreply 15December 21, 2018 9:44 PM

He is a hot looking but maybe he should think what to say in public.

by Anonymousreply 16December 21, 2018 9:45 PM

Daniel Day Lewis, Eddie Redmayne and Tom Cruise all stole roles that perfectly disabled people would have been able to perform.

by Anonymousreply 17December 21, 2018 9:47 PM

Acting is playing someone you arent. The skill of the actor's acting should come first right? I cast someone that is similar to the character in many ways.....oh wait they arent great actors? That's okay at least both they and their character suck dick in their free time.

by Anonymousreply 18December 21, 2018 9:52 PM

And I'm talking about the motivation of what was said, R15. Marked difference.

by Anonymousreply 19December 21, 2018 9:56 PM

[quote] [R4] gay people have to live in a straight world and until they come out, act straight to avoid being outed.

That's so true. Paul Lynde and Rip Torn had to butch it up for years. No one ever guessed they were gay.

by Anonymousreply 20December 21, 2018 10:02 PM

I'm only going to play middle class women from New Jersey from now on since that was my point of origin.

by Anonymousreply 21December 21, 2018 10:07 PM

This is not only stupid, it's dangerous.

The logical extension of this position is that gay actors should not play straight roles.

And the worst part is that many will applaud this position without realizing that it comes for an underlying homophobia.

by Anonymousreply 22December 21, 2018 10:13 PM

[quote]The logical extension of this position is that gay actors should not play straight roles.

Are we pretending there is no difference between marginalized groups and non-marginalized groups?

I mean what you said is no different than "if there is a black history month, why isn't there a white history month?!"

The idea behind this sentiment is you help gay actors by not letting straight actors "steal" their roles. How many gay careers could have been launched if gay actors were sought out for those parts?

by Anonymousreply 23December 21, 2018 10:19 PM

[quote]I mean what you said is no different than "if there is a black history month, why isn't there a white history month?!"

Really? You're going to use a false equivalency to accuse me of making a false equivalency. One of the worst unintended consequences of the recent political cycle has been the overuse of such tactics.

[quote]The idea behind this sentiment is you help gay actors by not letting straight actors "steal" their roles. How many gay careers could have been launched if gay actors were sought out for those parts?

No one is stealing any role. "To steal" implies ownership. No one "owns" any roles except the best actor for the part.

Heath Ledger was great in Brokeback. I can't think of a gay actor who would have been better - no one. I'd rather have someone like him in the role than a lesser gay actor.

by Anonymousreply 24December 21, 2018 10:33 PM

Maybe they need to specify "openly gay", if that's their belief. Just that there are a few more gay people who've played gay roles than is openly acknowledged. Closeted gays and open-secret gays have been doing this for years. Sean Hayes playing Jack in Will And Grace, before officially coming out, would be just one example

by Anonymousreply 25December 21, 2018 10:38 PM

How would Darren Criss know about straight actors playing gay?

by Anonymousreply 26December 21, 2018 10:42 PM

Is Penn gay? He was looking so gaunt in You but generally he’s very pretty

by Anonymousreply 27December 22, 2018 1:43 AM

R23, I doubt it would make a difference. There are plenty of working gay actors playing gay and straight roles alike. Very few are A-lister, very few have box office draw. Not being openly gay didn’t stop Kevin Spacey from getting laid or stop people from whispering about his sexuality.

by Anonymousreply 28December 22, 2018 1:43 AM

Why should anyone care what a straight guy thinks?

by Anonymousreply 29December 22, 2018 3:07 AM

Does anyone really believe Darren Criss is straight? I certainly don't.

by Anonymousreply 30December 22, 2018 3:10 AM

Oh, how brave they are...aren’t there gay/bisexual rumors about Penn as well?

by Anonymousreply 31December 22, 2018 3:12 AM

This thread reeks of old Uncle Bottoms.

by Anonymousreply 32December 22, 2018 3:15 AM

Rip Torn is many things, R20, but he is not gay.

by Anonymousreply 33December 22, 2018 3:22 AM

R33, I think that he meant Rip Taylor...

by Anonymousreply 34December 22, 2018 4:27 AM

Rip Taylor... butch?

by Anonymousreply 35December 22, 2018 4:28 AM

Not everyone is a fucking Method Actor!

by Anonymousreply 36December 22, 2018 4:50 AM

When people shit on other people of their same ethnic group like these two glorified shop bottoms are doing, all I can think of is how pathetically self loathing, insecure & mentally unstable they are.

Add Shamu Schumer, Kathy Grinchin, AnnE & Natalie Portofcall, among many other phony celebridouches, to the above.

No one really respects any kind of traitor.

by Anonymousreply 37December 22, 2018 5:20 AM

OP, are you Gossip Girl?

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by Anonymousreply 38December 22, 2018 6:58 AM

I can’t wait till all this SjW bullshit has finished and everyone has finally finished eating their own .

In the 1960s everyone fought to be treated as equals , now we are fighting to be treated as better than equals and biting the heads off those that fight back .

I can’t wait until all this lies on the compost heap of failures that it will surely be .

We live in the best time in society to be alive and we act as though we live in 1250 in a rural outpost. How the fuck did we come to this ?

It is fucking acting . The name says it all. Soon we will only be able to read books which have characters that mirror our own exactly.

by Anonymousreply 39December 22, 2018 7:20 AM

R8,don't confuse Penn with ideas.

by Anonymousreply 40December 22, 2018 7:22 AM

Who died and let Penn Badgley make the rules for acting?

I think you should let gay actors "play" straight, and straight actors "play" gay.

So who is right? What, is there a vote on this topic by The Academy?

And let's be honest and call this what it is: Penn making his "woke" position known to score some headlines and score some points with the SJW crowd.

by Anonymousreply 41December 22, 2018 5:30 PM

[quote]Are we pretending there is no difference between marginalized groups and non-marginalized groups?

The race to victimhood. Let's see how many "marginalized" categories we can tick off to see who is the winner.

by Anonymousreply 42December 22, 2018 5:38 PM

Bless his pretty bubble head!

by Anonymousreply 43December 23, 2018 6:40 AM

He is very hairy. Ibet he has beautiful hairy bubble butt which tastes delicious

by Anonymousreply 44December 23, 2018 12:39 PM

I guess we'll never see him in a gay role or a gay sex scene. Too bad. That would've been hot.

by Anonymousreply 45December 24, 2018 2:16 AM

If the character has a big fat hot cock, the actor must, as well.

by Anonymousreply 46December 24, 2018 8:43 AM

And you'll handle the auditions, right?

by Anonymousreply 47December 24, 2018 9:34 AM

[quote]We live in the best time in society to be alive

I think we're a few decades past that. Then again, I may simply be twenty-plus years older than you. Then again, no, I can't imagine anyone referring to the 21st century as "the best time in society to be alive."

by Anonymousreply 48December 24, 2018 9:37 AM

R48 you need to look at an average person and think is this the worst time to be alive or the best.

As a Gay person we are largely accepted as being Gay in the West. We are able to adopt. Tell me as far as laws and being a Gay man when do you think there was a better time to be openly Gay ? Cause you he 70s had its own problems including you couldn’t marry .

by Anonymousreply 49December 24, 2018 10:52 AM

I much preferred the '70s, r49. Of course, I was in my 20s then.

The hatred I see in print/internet (I avoid all TV news) in the 21st century leads me to believe that we are at any given moment one election away from losing whatever gains have been made since the '70s. And now, "gay" is under attack from both the far right and the far left.

by Anonymousreply 50December 24, 2018 10:58 AM

Fuck this twaddle.

Who could have been better than Philip Seymour Hoffman in Boogie Nights?

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by Anonymousreply 51December 24, 2018 11:30 AM

R50 I get it but from acceptance point of view now is the best time to be openly Gay. I am 50 and I see the 70s were amazing. But purely from a Rights perspective it is best now.

by Anonymousreply 52December 24, 2018 12:14 PM

But this basically makes it so only OUT gay actors can play gay roles and it leads to prying into an actor's personal life. Can a bisexual play a gay character? Can a gay character play a bisexual? I hate it. I think with race it's a bigger issue and straight actors should stop going after Oscar baiting gay roles but I don't think that gay roles should be exclusive to gay people. Just like I don't think straight roles should be exclusive to straight people.

by Anonymousreply 53December 24, 2018 1:20 PM

And it makes being gay into this weird, exotic “otherly” existence that no one but gay people can understand or convey. It makes being gay seem weird or bizarre.

by Anonymousreply 54December 24, 2018 1:24 PM

[italic]What[/italic] "makes being gay into" all that blah-blah, r54?

by Anonymousreply 55December 24, 2018 1:26 PM

Saying only gay people can play gay characters. We should be saying there is little distinction between gay or straight, not perpetuating it is some big distinction.

by Anonymousreply 56December 24, 2018 1:31 PM

Acting is acting. You can’t act color or race, but a good actor can act anything else.

by Anonymousreply 57December 29, 2018 11:35 PM

Penn Badgley is fine in my book. His cock is intact.

by Anonymousreply 58December 29, 2018 11:45 PM

How do you know, R58? Are you Shawn Pyfrom?

by Anonymousreply 59December 30, 2018 1:03 AM

More racist requirements for artwork by Millenial fuckwits.

Discriminating against gay or straight people for jobs is already illegal, and rightfully so. So Penn Badgley and Darren Criss can shut the fuck up.

"It should go to a gay person" is the new, "Fuck, no! I'm not queer! I'm not going to play one!"

And if anyone really believes Darren Criss isn't against playing gay because his roles are cutting too deep into his closet, then she needs to take her hands OFF HER CLITORIS.

by Anonymousreply 60December 30, 2018 1:26 AM

60 - I have been waiting for a cutting comment to describe the feeling I have about the disingenuous Darren Criss. Yours wins. Any woman who can't see the truth is of the 'Twilight, 50 shades of Gray" disposition. .

by Anonymousreply 61December 30, 2018 1:46 AM

But queer actors DO play queer roles. But most of the A, B and even C listers are in the closet.

by Anonymousreply 62December 30, 2018 1:51 AM

If we follow this logic you must be poor to play a poor person, no more Brits playing Americans or Americans playing Brits, you must be from a rural area to play a country character, you must have grown up in the "hood" to play an urban character, etc...

It is called acting, you are not meant to play out your experiences but the experiences of the character you are portraying. Sometimes actors who are portraying something that is close to their own experiences give crappy performances because they forget the character and force the character to become them.

by Anonymousreply 63December 30, 2018 2:06 AM

R59. Penn's father (of Penn & Teller) gave an interview railing against cutting boys' penises and how it's bullshit and plain cruel. He said he did not have his son cut, and his son was just fine.

by Anonymousreply 64December 30, 2018 5:21 AM

Penn's father is part of Penn & Teller? That's news to both of them I'm sure.

by Anonymousreply 65December 30, 2018 5:39 AM
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